Okay but the tranny thoughts DO eventually go away, right? Like I've made it this long, and I've spent the majority of it NOT consciously wanting to be a girl, it's obviously some kind of fucked up side effect of being a sexually repressed terminallyonline AGPtard yuricuck.Even if I did troon out it would be way too late, I would literally look like a fucking monster and my entire family would be sickened and ashamed when they found out.Like I can't actually be stuck in a body I hate for the rest of my life because of some sick fetish, right, this is blatant mental illness and a schizophrenic delusion.I will NEVER be a woman and it's completely illogical to even give it thought, it has to go away if I ignore it long enough. I cannot ACTUALLY be a fucking tranny.
>>41490107> the tranny thoughts DO eventually go away, right?what you're doing isn't cute or funny, it's sad and pathetic.You know full well that the tranny thoughts don't go away> it's some kind of side effect of being a repressed AGPtardthe other way around. You become an AGPtard if you rep throughout your teenage years and refuse yourself any kind of feminine expression.Because you refused to entertain the idea of transitioning and only expressed these desires through sexual stuff and cooming - now the AGP shit is your only outlet> I can't actually be stuck in a body I hate for the rest of my lifeit happens> this is blatant mental illness and a delusionIt is some sort of a mental thing, but nobody knows how to treat it besides trooning.Though the "delusion" part is where you, OP, are still telling yourself the tranny thoughts will go away magically. Most trannies are very aware of their situation, that's why they start HRT, do laser, so surgeries. Id they were delusional they'd just ID as women and wouldn't transition medically
>>41490202stop giving false hope. hrt only works if you win the genetic lottery. If you look like a man already you're probably already doomed
>>41498923It's palliative care that prevents dysphoria from getting worse
I think trying hrt every few years can remind you it's impossible. So just get it through your system. It's what I do
>>41498923not that anon, butI realize reppers have arrested development, but you need to let go of the teenage black or white thinking, there are options in between "perfect happy youngshit passoid" and "miserable gigahon".Manmoders live better lives than full-on repressors because minimizing masc features is a good way to treat dysphoria. Obviously manmoders aren't 100% fulfilled in life and happy, but it's still better than total repression.Also you have to realize that total repression is the biggest cause behind boomehons - your brain gets totally fried after 4 decades of repping, and by the time you're 50 you turn into that delusional hon that nobody wants to be, because you just stop caring at that point.You reppers are pussies so be honest with yourselves, you're not gonna sui, you're gonna continue living. So if you continue living, why wouldn't you want to minimize your misery by manmoding? Do laser, learn makeup, crossdress at home - don't ID as a woman IRL
penis in female locker room:>predator!>disgusting!>pervert!>I feel raped!vagina in male locker room:>no way bro>ahah nice>looking good, dude>do you need a spot?Why are women so pathetic and fragile-minded?
>>41498868"I'll be raped if I go in the men's restroom/locker room!" is an AGP fantasy weaponized to demand access to female spaces.
>>41498874Difference between being in a room full of 20 naked men all looking at you, and one guy walking into a bathroom full of 3-7 women
>>41498895>one guy walking into a bathroom full of 3-7 womenwhich was not the hill to die upon it turns out
>>41498137why is nudity so bad? we are all humans.and i've literally changed in front of my female coworkers. like i said it's not a problem since we have the same type of body.of course you should be nude around your spuose! that's how you have sex. and there's no need to be embarrassed when you're in an intimate relationship even if you're just changing or whatever.
>>41498941so you think i should legally be harassed by men because you believe my right to safety was voided by my own behaviors.
Heterosexual white twinks are looked down in their own countries but popular in East Asia. Now you have Russian dude like the one below tries, quite successfully, to capture the Asian market. Why do Western/European women treat feminine looking men with contempt?
>>41493472Would white twinks be as popular without as much makeup?
>>41492886>Why do Western/European women treat feminine looking men with contempt?Bro, your boy is literally wearing makeup like a fag.
>>41492886>asian beauty standard isn't possible with asians>so they hire an eastern euro twink insteadgrim
>>41498540Compare to the makeup that Asian male idols wear this is light makeup. His features are already there
>>41492886>>41493422Never thought i would come across a cute white guy, but here we are....
Nobody sees you as a girl pretending you to be a boy. They see you as a loser male on estrogen and trying to hide it.The reason you do it is because taking estrogen makes you "feel like a woman" and partially satisfy your autogynephilia.
>>41498746what's your point?
>>41498724You>look like a man even wearing women's clothingMe>look like a woman even wearing men's clothing
>>41498751That you should be able to read something, think for a second, and realize that it's bait and then you should counter it by refusing to engage with the topic. This post exists because boymoding autogynephilia and general internalized transphobia. So it's basically a catch all that baits the widest cross section of trans users into engaging with transphobic bait. It's angry, negative, divisive, assertive, and poses no question.Sp yeah if you think about it you should realize it's just an AI generated thread designed to worsen the board for everyone by attacking the user experience itself.
>>41498729The phenomenon was known about decades before Blanchard coined its current name. Ovesey and Person had "primary" (AGP) and "secondary" (HSTS) transsexuals. Harry Benjamin identified different motivations for transition which covered both types.
>>41498782anon. everything is bait. it's ok to fall for it as then a discussion can take place. calling it bait means your upset others are engaging with something you don't want people to talk about.
why do so many dudes want this
>>41498239Because I have been catastrophically damaged, and wish for one moment in which I can be vulnerable with someone I am attracted to, allowing myself to put full trust in them for what is broadly considered to be a shameful actBut the connotation of the act, and the difficulty of finding anyone resembling picrel who is okay with the idea = just settle for a lifetime of relatively normal sexual dynamics because I still enjoy them "enough" (if not more, as a longterm normal)
>>41498239I top my BF. It's fine for us. I like raw dogging my boyfriend. He's bigger than me but he's not well endowed so I kinda take the lead in sex.
>>41498778Jealous, I have a kinda big pp and would top but I just want the option of bottoming like every once a month as a treat.I have a height that starts with 6 and muscles, I deserve it.
>>41498828>I deserve it.why
>>41498778Based, I need to emasculate a man with gock
advice on how to not be a pessimistic, self-hating tranny plz
>>41498858What’s going on in ur life?If you feel like you want to talk about it I’m always here to listen
>>41498864i don't even know. a lot of negative things are converging in my life. and my frustration with my identity is just adding to that. i just want to be happy and carefree but instead im so stuck up and in denial about every little feeling i have
>>41498838I used to be self-loathing. Then I self-taught myself philosophy, and realised it was just emotional gooning, for emotional gooning's sake. I believe all actions are prompted either for pleasure or to avoid displeasure. Acting on self-loathing and self-pity feels good. Just like how saying something hurtful to someone that’s wronged you feels good. If you view life on the axiom of "actions are prompted either for pleasure or to avoid displeasure" then things make sense. Though, you do lose some of that romanticisation of the human condition aspect.
>>41498884I understand those feelings anon, thank you for opening up and showing vulnerability. I’m here for you to lean on for support if you’re comfortable with that.
>>41498908>I believe all actions are prompted either for pleasure or to avoid displeasure. Acting on self-loathing and self-pity feels good. Just like how saying something hurtful to someone that’s wronged you feels good. If you view life on the axiom of "actions are prompted either for pleasure or to avoid displeasure" then things make sense. Though, you do lose some of that romanticisation of the human condition aspect.1000% correct. and i feel like ive stripped away all romantization of life from a very very young age. wanting things always seemed do gross and vain, and its why i denied myself my identity and sexuality for my entire life
Trans woman was kicked out of the womens swimming team for being trans. So she killed herself.
>>41498821this is why t4t and stealthing is necessary. we will never be loved and accepted by cis people.
>>41498856Kek the girl holding the banner is relieved she won’t be raped by a hon
>>41498855she just wanted to be treated the same as other people like her. the innocent have a right not to be transgressed against and i'm tired of pretending otherwise. the reprobate masses must be strung up for their unrepentant criminality
>>41498878Why are you here chaser incel?
>>41498878Nigga that looks like her
getting a pixie cut as a trans girl was such a mistake. now i look like a pooner pre-t
>>41498306You have to commit. Dye your hair neon green & start wearing a pronoun pin with he/it or some equally retarded shit on it. Call yourself a femboy. People will be frothing to breed your fakeboy tuna poonie & get you pregnant. Theyfab larp is the ultimate passoid test. If anyone says you are masculine act said and say that you were raped & groomed into taking testosterone by the transgender agenda.
>>41498518Fembrained YGMI
>>41498801this whole theyfab larp sounds really fun, i think i could pull it off when i return to college. i'm 5'8" which is still within 'tall girl' height. i have blonde highlights, but the roots are coming in. i'm thinking about going purple or blue instead of green.calling myself a femboy sounds really exciting now actually. maybe all the reverse psychology could work
>>41498876Risky though, you could do sth that literally makes you kys
>>41498306POST A PIC OP
QOTT: favorite historical period?most 4chan posters like vidya, anime, manga, TV, film, music, comics, cartoons, weeb shit, etc. as interests and hobbies.Why not specify your favorites in your post? It says more about you and will likely net you better adds.DISCORD: discord.gg/mtf>qott>letter(s)/about me>primary interest >other interests and hobbies >looking for >not looking for >(free space) Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>41497435Theyre white and an animal rights activist, but also schizo.
>>41497442I happen to know their mother personally and she is a very sweet chinese lady with a taste for dog
>>41492794>m>mtfpagpag bro?
>>41497452Sorry dude, don't know who that is. I know what pagpag means though. Both normally and colloquially lol
bump
as a trans guy i think that trans girls who are into st4t are quite literally angels bought down to earth and if anything ever happens to them i will walk outside and light myself on fire
>>41497834Don't go up to trans men talking about how they like ST4T & then complain about how trans men who like ST4T are impossible to find.
>>41497844It is normal to treat this place like a forum for chatting and not like a dating site. I would potentially meet someone from board but I'm not looking for it and thats healthy and normal. irl, it is very hard to find trans men who have their shit together and are into trans girls.
>>41497884>have their shit togetherSee that's the difficult part that you should complain about.
>>41497897?I can complain about whatever I want thanks
>>41497725> Why'd you break up?The full story is long and dark. The short version is: I was dumb, an asshole, naive and young. I deserved it, and it was good for both of us, especially looking in retrospect. It had nothing to do with him being afab and me being amab and anything to do with me being stupid and just standard relationship bullshit.> Genuinely I don't know how anybody can stomach this.You're preaching to the choir. When I transitioned back in 2014, boymoding and manmoding wasn't really a thing, I don't understand that meme still - either you're trans or not. (Yeah, y'all can start the hurr transmed choir).So after starting E (the 2014 meme: 4 mg micronized, 50 mg cypro, qhi) it took me all if two months to go fulltime. As in leave "being male" behind and be a woman, get papers fixed and all that jazz. For me, transitioning young wasn't an option (no diagnosis of F64.2 possible, bica was more expensive than a month's salary, cypro wasn't approved < 18, and I had no information that I could be anything but straight and cis, so I told myself the crushes I had on boys were not real, fooling around with gilrs and being disgusted by the thought of touching a girl as a boy social anxiety and me being unmanly just... I'll grow up once and things.) I thought I could rep, but in retrospect, I got the last window to get things done before legal gender change got hindered then made illegal.For me, acting as male, I always perceived as being handed a role and pushed to the stage without being handed a script as well. So I looked around and started to improv. Because I had no other way. Because (Until 2018), I had things between my legs which required me to act male, and I had a male name. And a 4 mm buzz cut. (Oh Goddess the fucking pain of growing that out to normal length - now it's around mid-back length. However it is curvy and until its weight pulled it out, it looked like a mop, and needed to be constantly straightened.)
incredibly funny that the war against troons was won literally just by pointing to the words & actions of troons. you don’t even need an organized propaganda campaign. they will hand you all the ammunition you need to destroy them & call it “empowerment” & “liberation”. fucking buffoons.
>>41490561stop chasing a group to be part of and learn to be yourself, take ownership of your own life, take responsibility for your actionstake HRT or don't, do what you want
>>41490074Give some to me, bitch. I want to turn into a cumslut
>>41497133Nah, OP is derangedPeople who hate trans people will always have excuses, why care about optics then? It's better to be firm and be unapologetically based.
>>41498444>why care about opticsto keep the persuadable/indifferent middle from hating us
>>41498668The neutral people that don't care/go on with their lives won't even give a single thought about what some quirky transbians do
kms>be me, 19> 1 year hrt, boymoder>friends invite me out drinking>one helpful friend says "they dont card here but if they do just run back and grab [girl]'s id, i know shes a woman but you look kinda similar and shes 22">another helpfully says "hm idk but i dont think HE could ever pass as a woman">various murmurs of agreement and i end up not going so do i kill myself here? im not even that fucked for anything but my face, im 5'7 and 120 pounds but just ugly as fuck i guess
why are you mad about that? did you tell them that you're trans?
>>41497218Men don't lie to make people feel better so if she looked like a woman they'd have said so
>>41497222men absolutely lie to make people feel worse though, I would know, I'm a cisman on this fucking board why am i here wtf
>>41494940>boymoder gets treated like boywhat's the problem
you guys are all being disingenuous clearly the issue is the 'he could NEVER pass' part not the boymoder being called a boy
Hi everyone, sorry it has been awhile since I came by to give an update. I wanted to give you all an update on the latest advances in fertility options for LGBT couples. I think these are worth discussing. LGB options to have genetically related children for gay parentsSpermatogenesis/oogenesis IVG (In vitro gametogenesis) cloning technology, cell engineeringhttps://youtu.be/HW-aygjNU1Qhttps://www.mdpi.com/2673-3897/4/3/20Progress in uterine and ovarian tissue transplantation for transwomenhttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6492192/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40565010/Advances and challenges for Transmen regarding engineering testicular, phallic tissue and Metoidioplastyhttps://www.nature.com/articles/s41443-025-01141-3https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10060902/
>>41496229What are the chances of IVG or IVG-lite (donor egg cell with chromosomes replaced with chromosomes from my own skin cell) being available in the next 10-15 years? My fiance and I really want to have one or two kids of our own together...
>>41498509Well the technology and research would be straightforward and the theory is well established. Its really the ethics and the religious hangups since US bioethicists will scream "Gattaca bad" anytime someone tries to make any advances or innovations in the field. Frankly i think China will surpass us in this technology faater. Current predictions say 10-20 years before the US will allow the research or trials to start with humans but thats if everything goes smoothly.
>>41498509If you prefer not to risk going to a communist country and/or the black market, then Japan is probably your best bet. Regulators are allowing the research to proceed. But it has to be done quietly since it will be controversial even if all the kinks are worked out.https://www.statnews.com/2025/08/13/japan-human-embryos-stem-cells-controversy-ethics/#
>>41498565>>41498601I wonder if stuff like this will finally be the nail in the coffin for religious nuts? Probably not, since they've overstayed their welcome for a while. >Essential medical care for LGBTQ people takes off and is revolutionised by Asian countryThe nature of humanity is that every once in a while, someone reinvents the Suporn clinic
>>41498673Honestly i expect them to fight this. But they are more focused on abortion and enabling faacist pedophiles, most people who would hate this are too Ignorant about biology to know what bioethicists are whining about. Bottom line is the preliminary research doesnt need to be conducted in the US or even in English. Once the successful data exists it can be reproduced and refined anywhere else. All that matters is ensuring its done right so the baby is healthy.
I've been trying to figure out my identity for years by now and every step I take in doing so only uncovers that I completely and utterly lack one.There's no desires, no beliefs, no sociability, no preferences, no sexuality, no gender, no sense of self. All I am is just a collection of happenstances, and the meek attempt at reducing harm towards others.I recognize the person in the mirror, but he's just as much a stranger to me as everybody else is. The world feels stagnant, disjointed, and nothing that ever happens actually feels like it has any substance.There's still hope that I'm just missing something which will make the world make sense, but it all just feels like a deluded pipedream. I hope at least that some people can relate to this, and are able to feel seen and commiserate.
>>41498205I guess I can see how feeling a certain estrangement to one's own reflection or from many identity categories can be considered rational, but that doesn't change the fact that said estrangement is an overbearing burden in my life. I feel like I'm carrying a corpse and navigating social situation as a faceless entity just feels uncanny. I've also tried my best to expose myself to as many varied experiences as a I could, and it would be a lie to say that some of them didn't actually feel worth my time, but all in all it has always felt draining to simply exist, no matter the momentary enjoyment. That doesn't really leave me with many other options but to keep trying without abandon, so I guess I'll just keep trudging forward aimlessly. Thanks for the advice though
>>41497683How would transitioning fill that void, if the void is my single defining trait? Attempting to fill the void with another personality will just be performative, and I really doubt that anything would ever feel authentic. There never was a "girl", so why would there be one now?
>>41498299It is a burden and most of it we can't control. Can't change the categories in social situations so I avoid them. I do enough to sustain a career and leave everything else to others. That is the route I prefer. Some people like to be really engaged and sociable but that comes with its own set of problems like being exposed to too much of other's issues and losing touch with yourself that way. No matter what you have to compromise and deal with it. Can life ever truly be an effortless joyful ride, or is that just a marketable image some people learned to buy and sell while pushing off the problems on others? Whenever things get unbearable you have to get selfish and assertive in one way or another and that's where you'd find it.
>>41498183Same goes for me. Tried transitioning, but deep down I always knew it was just a cope, so I detransed before the effects became too apparent. I guess that means I was never trans to begin with, but it still deeply hurts to know that not even this helped in the slightest. I just wanted to have an identity
"I" love everyone in this threadEven if my heart is black and hollowThere is no self, it is a recursive construction: "you" only exist to other people as a continent object-construction to facilitate social relations, and that is then recursively applied by ones consciousness apparatus to oneself to allow one to exist in a social environment.This is not a useful truth. If you feel this way its probably because you are extremely isolated and introspective; a deadly combination.Theres nothing to say, but be the self that your constituent personalities and mechanisms are most content in and try to have fun
QOTT: Why did you let the thread die?>Reminder: This gen is for cis homosexual females (lesbians). All trans-related or bisexual posts are considered off-topic and should be directed to other generals or threads. No discussion of male (XY) anatomy.OG Discord: https://pastebin.com/P644WESiclg2 Discord: https://pastebin.com/1ct1Fcagclg3 Discord: https://pastebin.com/emrpgWM8NO SCROTESNO GOOKSNO CONS*RVATIVESPrevious thread:>>41338959
>>41496938she used to be so cute. too bad she completely gave up on the masc/tomboy thing later.
Damn, hope yall are as busy as I am. I been out raiding candy for ToTs in a few days. I got tons already, but more is always good. Give it out by the handful to the late kids; as is tradition.
>>41494937at that point just let it die. cis women don't come to /tttt/
Crazy how guys have been saying>there are no women on the internet lolfor over 30 years now. You'd think they would have moved on to a different joke by now or something.
>>41498852there's women on the internet. just not here for the most part.
