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What's the funniest book you've read?
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>>24951462
A Confederacy of Dunces, but I know someone IRL that is a less successful version of Ignatius, so that may contribute.
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>>24951865
>He was entrancing, with that epicene beauty that in extreme youth cries aloud for love and withers at the first cold wind
>The languor of youth (sorry, Youth) - how unique and quintessential it is!
>I was made free of her narrow loins
i may have missed the irony, but i cannot believe a man could write as badly as that for fun.

ever read waugh’s first (best) book? some good bits about the welsh. also much closer to >>24951738

>What can I say?
i can think of one or two things
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>>24951882
>i cannot believe a man could write as badly as that for fun.
Your problem is you mistake good writing for bad and vice versa. Explain the Amis fixation.

>ever read waugh’s first (best) book?
No but I mean to, I’ve heard that passage before, in a documentary about waugh
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>>24951894
>I mean to
you’ll dislike it i think.
not sure why he thought that the way to avoid writing as he did in the 30s (which was quite well) is to write as BAD WRITERS did in the 30s.
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the bit with the shitty british sour candies in Gravity's Rainbow made me chuckle

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It's that time of year again!
Vote for which books you wish to see on this year's top 100 chart. You can vote for as many books as you want. If there are any books not on the list that you wish to vote for, request the author and title ITT and they will be added. Responses can be changed after submitting.
Voting closes on the New Year, after which will be the tiebreaker poll. To prevent spamming, a Google account is required to vote, but will not be collected or stored.
Vote here:
https://forms.gle/LqHa5xS1q5CVikem6
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I've been looking all over the net for the "My Diary Desu" but could never acquire a copy. I don't think there's any review for it either.
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>>24951871
I have a signed copy. How much are you willing to pay?
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Please add Consider the Lobster (Walley's best work)

Vonnegut's doing well this year so far. I'd imagine he is helped quite a bit by the voting format. Not necessarily a common top 5 / top 10 favorite, but most people like him enough to check a box.
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>>24951900
Added
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>>24951595
OP does it this way because he's a lazy faggot who can't process raw data.

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Any recc.s for non-fiction books that aren't just a biography, or a dull reference/history of x book?
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>>24948190
Athos, or the Mountain of the Monks by Athelstan Riley. An 1886 travelogue in which an uppercrust Englishman takes his Anglican bishop friend on a trip to Mount Athos and its orthodox community.

The first 50 pages are competitively scamming his way through Europe (and he is defeated by Bulgarians) and then unending complaints about everything and being an awful person to everyone he meets. He has silver-pressed opium pills to give to annoying natives so they'll leave him alone, goes in great tirades about the 'natural indolence of the greek oriental', torments the weak and continually abuses his position. He even escapes Athos by lying and waving a letter around claiming the Ottoman Sultan gave it to him - he is duelling with Turks looking for bribes in this instance.

I can take or leave his descriptions of the monasteries and the churches but just reading about him, his friend and his trip is hilarious. Genuinely funny. I read something similar from an 1830 source, a British lieutenant, who was polite, respectful and utterly unremembered. I think Athelstan is remembered on the peninsula to this day for being a dickhead.
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>>24950235
neat, will flick through on internetarchive, see if its worth getting a physical copy
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A Night to Remember by Walter Lord

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Man, you're right, Aristotleanon. Christian apologists are the worst when it comes to anally raping the Aristotelian corpus beyond recognition. They don't fucking understand anything. They don't understand dunamis, they don't understand energeia, they don't understand Metaphysics Zeta, they don't understand syllogisms, and they definitely do not understand the four causes.

I just had apologist tell me, definitively, that Palamas was a top scholar of Aristotle (lmfao), and that De Anima isn't about life at all, since according to Palamas, only human beings have life because you somehow need "intelligence" to be "self-subsistent" (fucking LOL). Even when you read Aquinas's commentary on passages like the controversial active intellect, you can see him at pains to make the active intellect cohere with the passive intellect into one united soul. And then he fails to do so. But then magically says "but it has to be the case, and so it is." I ask another apologist, is an intellect which becomes everything, something which changes or otherwise remains as it is? And obviously, they short-circuit. Because obviously, that's the kind of intellect that we have, and it can't be active in any pure sense. So Aquinas is wrong and our intellects are perishable in the sense that it is soul. Oh the horror!!!

These fucks have absolutely destroyed Peripatetic commentary throughout history, and they polluted literally everything, especially the translations, with the most hamfisted articulations possible to the point where intelligent conversations with them are not possible. Their brains are wrapped in verbal poison. If you ever get caught up in it, you basically have to spend years unlearning Scholastic hackery as it pertains to the deepest parts of the Aristotelian thought to even have a CHANCE at beginning to understand its depths.
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>>24949116
You’re being absurdity pedantic. First of all, I couldn’t care less about Palamas and what he actually thought. The only thing I care about is Aristotle. Second, the only reason I even bring this passage up is because it was brought up *to me by someone else* as an example of Aristotelian-style thinking from him. The only thing I’ve claimed is that, to the extent that soul, life, essence, activity, etc., operate the way they operate in that passage, it’s clear to me that it’s not Aristotelian. That is the only point that matters to me. Third, whatever that analogy was trying to communicate, it was abysmally executed because the passage seems to operate in a proto Cartesian-esque because it treats the soul as a separate thing from the body (for obvious reasons). He could have picked a much better example.

Just an obnoxious comment all around, his comment and yours.
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Bump.
I'm reading the Metaphysics.
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OP al-Farabi writes in the Art of Happiness about how the philosopher naturally seeks a community. In 10th century Syria you could easily find other irl autists to talk about Aristotle with. People knew he was based and any educated man was studying him. Nowadays - certainly no one irl. So you go online and lo and behold everyone is fucking retarded, hostile and ignorant. Philosophy is about discourse but it’s become extremely isolating, unless maybe you’re in academia. Notice how the larpers itt think of philosophy as an inert matter to be taken up and transformed arbitrarily by religion. This is really a form of atheism.
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>>24947161
>especially the translations
idk Greek so I've never read the originals, is there anyone here who has actually done that and who can attest to that statement?
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>>24951908
Nta, the grammar of his sentences in Greek can veer wildly between simple and contorted, but the vocab is pretty common Greek, except for "entelecheia."

ToT UOHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>24944962
Not a boy.
Don't give a shit.
KYS, pedo.
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>>24949238
This man wants gavroche
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bump
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The 1st half is way better than the 2nd half
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>>24947666
Hugo is a better writer overall but Dumas has much better info dumping and filler.

Unwilling Eldritch Horror of Slop Edition

Stubbed >>24943213

>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.

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>>24951794
you can write a beginning to end 200 page web serial though, that's what I plan on doing with mine. Web serials don't have to go on forever.
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do you guys maintain a personal wiki?
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>>24951917
yeah. in my head
heh
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>>24951917
No. If there's going to be a wiki around my work, it's going to be handled by my most dedicated and autistic readers (I love them).
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>>24951917
I use a combination of Obsidian and random .txt files located in random folders.
Thinking about making the switch to Zim

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>match with woman on dating app
>we both have literature as shared interests
>she says "oh what's your favorite genre??"
>"I'm more into the classics"
>"but what's your favorite genre? Do you like sci fi?
>"I like transcendentalist literature"
>"oh ok"

Why do they ask
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>>24950424
If you ask for a date straight away you'll never get anywhere. You have to prove to the woman you aren't weird or a creep first. Only a desperate woman will agree to a date straight away.
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I can‘t tell if the continual and ever cringe-inducing desire to give advice on interacting with women is an autistic design to systematize what can only ever be a matter of practice and accrued instinct or a general male flaw in our wanting to always seem more learned in a realm which should only be a matter of personal emotional impart.
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>>24950810
What are the young people even doing these days? I want so desperately to feel cool and relevant again, but all the other imageboards are even worse.
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>>24947357
Just find out what slop women are into and say that. Twenty years ago, it was all Harry Potter. Aren't they reading shit about being raped by a bull, or something, now?
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>>24948018
only GOOD and TRUE statement made in this thread.

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>If there is a danger, it lies in the Negro music and dancing that has been imported into Europe. This music has completely won over a whole section of the cultured population of Europe, to the point of real fanaticism. It is inconceivable that the incessant repetition of the Negroes’ physical gestures as they dance around their fetishes or that the constant sound of the syncopated rhythm of jazz bands should have no ideological effects.
Was unc spittin fax here?
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>>24950883
Rhythmaxxing is the intellectual's choice.
Most people simply do not have the brain power to hold two basic rhythms in their head, let alone multiple complex layered rhythms with changing signatures and patterns.
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>No, kill the beautiful instead. The horrifying ugly monsters must destroy the beautiful
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>>24950708
I am ashamed to admit I like rap, but I listen to post-punk and classical music more
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>>24950877
>But Songs with a clear consistent rhythm existed all across the globe and all across human time.
No, they didn't, unless you're excluding black Africans from your definition of human. Melody and so music developed outside of sub-Saharan Africa; the African negro didn't have music until the concept of melody was introduced to them. What they had was rhythm, which is an aspect of music and not music itself.
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>>24951473
There is in effect no such thing as simultaneous rhythms. No matter how different or how complex, they will eventually all collapse into a single cyclic pattern. It's just a question of how long the pattern is.

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This book changed my life for the better
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>>24951589
There's no women here
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>>24946749
>sex, rhe one thing men get from a relationship with a woman, is all about her pleasure and just another chore men must perform for her benefit.
OK have fun with that, lol. I'm sure this will get men caring again.
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>>24951708
Lol men are losing in this scenario, not women
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>>24951955
Well there's always rape
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>>24951955
Sure

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prev >>24941253
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>>24951939
i guess the change in my pocket wasn’t enough
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>>24951942
>>24951943
Fucking leave me alone????? I hate you.
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>>24951947
>posts the same repetitive shit on a public site
>gets mildly trolled
>crashes out over it
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>>24951953
probably should stop replying at this point i think they’re getting something out of it
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I thought my cat has bad breath, for it smelled of fish, but my saliva got all over my body this ponderous afternoon and it smells of cat food and oil of orange. Deliciously ironic...

Apparently there’s a phenomenon in American high schools right now of not assigning full novels to students, but only having them read excerpts. I graduated a decade ago, and I distinctly remember us reading Gatsby and Slaughterhouse Five. What novels, if any, were you made to read in high school?
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>>24951872
our brains used to be huge graphics cards with immense capability for parallel processing
how far we have fallen
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im from bongland. we read of mice and men, dr jekyll and mr hyde, and lord of the flies. dr jekyll and mr hyde made a great impact on me
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>>24951928
gpt summarize this post and write a 200 word eassay. make it as humanlike as possible with some slang thrown in so the old head won't catch on. no capitals.
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My 10th grade English teacher made an off-hand remark that we were reading books that she studied in college. You could interpret that as either a compliment to our intelligence or a worry that we weren't ready for such books. If a second grader finished 1984, would you trust that he understood it at a meaningful level? So maybe it's good that we're not reading Moby Dick in high school.
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>>24951906
>Our English department has shared that they are not permitted to assign most novels

By who? Some fat black woman in Administration? These people need to start being ignored, holy shit. Human resources are servants of the Devil wherever they are placed.

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Is reading TerryEagleton waste of time!
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>>24951126
Try it out. Let us know.
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>>24951126
No he is not, his literary theory book is good. But graduate to Jameson asap. He had a cool book come out before he died which is just lectures to undergrads so it’s easier
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>>24951927
How does he compare to Raymond Williams?
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>>24951126
>Is reading TerryEagleton waste of time!
It is for you saar.

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>can't win over blacks
>can't win over poorfags
>outright enemies of blue collar workers
>not taken seriously/ seen as useful idiots by their intellectually inferior middle class liberal pragmatic allies
>can't/won't win over the armed forces
>can't/won't win over the intelligence agencies
>can't/won't win over the politicians

>decent success rate with middle class children (dropped by junior yr), academics, homosexuals and trannys.

Is there a book which explains how this leads to revolutionary success or should i just see all the le-science-of-hisory 2-more-weeksism from the past 200 years?
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I have lots of Marxist/Anarchist books on my reading list but they're all so expensive.
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>>24951477
You should be specific in your examples. Are you talking about peripheral leftwing grassroots “movements” in the US? Because they’re irrelevant. Or are you talking about the current movements and military situations in Palestine, India, Nepal, the Philippines, Peru? I assume the former based on your provincial OP.

The “real movement,” as it has been called, exists prior to its theorisation and politicisation, it emerges spontaneously, and is always already radical (the class in-itself). Historically, communists didn’t have to convince a bunch of people to go die in a civil war, they were already fighting and dying without knowing why or what to do. If that isn’t happening in your locale, it’s because you are situated in a region that sits higher up the pyramid even if it seems “poor”. Again, everyone can cure themselves of eclectic suburb brain by reading even a few pages of Lenin, I think. Including non-communists. You can be an actual fascist even and appreciate a guy who managed for a brief few years to maintain a grasp of the whole of the social totality in all its movement and complexity, anticipate its development, and intervene to accomplish a specific goal with scientific exactitude. He is the preeminent politician in modern history. He is also one of the best polemicists who ever lived and can at the least help you in developing posting skill.
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>>24950512
Truth
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>>24951258
Look, nigger. What exactly wrong with imperialism and why do you hate success and conquest?
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>>24951504
Ironic considering Marx hated brown people

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I want to read old European myths such as Irish, Swedish or Russians. Is there any infography listing them all so I can go looking for translations? Poetry preferable
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>>24951677
>I want to read old European myths such as Irish, Swedish or Russians.
There's a reason why when it comes to European mythology the Greeks are the ones that get all the attention. Ancient European societies were largely oral based and few of them had writing. So the only thing you'll find for other European myths like Celts, Norse, or Slavs is some heavily edited folktale written by a Christian Monk centuries after they've converted.
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>>24951690
>some heavily edited folktale written by a Christian Monk
Yes, I want that regardless
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Go on wikisource, they have a shit load of fairy tale books on there.

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Desperately reconcile with your irredeemable faith, sheep.
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>>24951815
they insist on being taken over. that's their whole religion.
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>>24951806
Because /lit/ is retarded
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>>24951826
So atheism is when you're a cuck?
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>>24951841
offering their taxes while they're sitting in the corner too
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>>24951768
If only Christians acted like this.


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