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First, let us take as given the definitions of “man” and “woman”: for though there are some who would pretend to ignore even these, that a newborn grasps for his mother’s teat before he can see proves how inherent these categories are. Treat “men” and “women” as disjoint sets, their union encompassing, with the exception of some unfortunate accidents of birth or circumstance, the whole of the human species. Treat these categories as immutable, and any attempt to move between them as what it is: mutilation, mockery, clumsy human imitation of the great Artist.

It was a great gift that God gave Adam in giving him Eve. Born of a rib, sundered from him and then returned, she was to be his companion, to complete him, to provide what he lacked in exchange for his protection. Such was their contract. Note that I am not framing this essay in a strictly theistic ontology by opening with this point: this story is as beautiful an illustration of the human condition as exists, replete with cross-cultural parallels, and even atheists should appreciate its etiological force.

Today, men and women compete increasingly for the same roles, domestically, professionally, in some cases even martially. That some asymmetry (a preferable term to the loaded “inequality”) should persist is not evidence of undesirable social conditions: rather, it is evidence of some bulwark against them.

We aim to show that men and women are distinct and complementary, and that it follows that the ideal social order should structure itself around this fundamental truth. Let us construct our argument by contrapositive. If men and women are equal, then equal inputs should lead to equal outputs. It will suffice to show that equal inputs do not systematically lead to equal outputs for the sexes. Obviously, the world is not a laboratory, and proponents of certain ideologies will surely be apt to claim that “true gender-neutrality has never been tried.” We intend only to weaken their argument down to this single weak point.
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>>24674512
Not if society looks on them with the half-shame, half-pity due, as it used to.
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>>24674511
No, I do not want this society to survive the coming century. Which is why on recognizing that it won‘t I‘ve turned my energy to something productive like self-sustenance instead of a crusader kings larp for the honor of single mothers.
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>>24674525
The day will come when you realize you need something greater than yourself. Worship of the self leads to collapse, nothingness, and then eternity in the flames.
I hope your day comes before it's too late. Until then, I will pray for you.
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>>24674537
I‘m here because my ethereal meaning is in art (and nature.) Keep your rabbi‘s slop.
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>>24674537
>Until then, I will pray for you.
You must have been swelling with pride with a comeback like that.

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>short but complex enough to hold your attention
>Easy to read without the dumbed down low IQ prose slop of modern fantasy
>no political correctness
Start with the pulps
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>>24674298
No
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>>24674294
That's how he is described
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>>24674298
That's not a Frazetta
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>>24673959
Barbarians aren't not pragmatic you pretentious dumb-dumb. Pragmatism is a concept born from civilization because they start putting utility above any other concept such as religion, morals, or honor. And that's literally the opposite of what Conan does in his adventures. Historical barbarians have always followed a strict code of honor coupled with their violent instincts, Conan is a perfect and accurate despiction if idealised of that. You're trying to conflate your pseudo-historical fabrication taken from Game of Thrones and Andrew Tate the goatfucker with reality. You should stick to that low-quality shit if all you want to read is propaganda.
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>>24668800
>Hero does heroic things within the moral framework of the audience
Why is this bad?

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When did you grow out of postmodernism?
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>>24672800
putting house of leaves there next to the others was really disgusting man
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>doing le born in the wrong generation unironically
grow up.
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Is catch 22 really considered postmodern I'm a retard and I'm not even sure what postmodernism is
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>>24672863
You should read Melancholy of Resistance. It is a Pomo book from Hungary influenced by Pythagoras (perfect transcendental music as tied to Being) and Heraclitus (beauty existing within the discord of the world).
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>>24672800
Usually when books make no sense I don't even bother with them

opinions on Bret Easton Ellis?
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his podcast is great
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>>24673932
I don't like this photo of him, never post it again.
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>>24673932
>obvious
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>>24674578
u have problems buddy?
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his prose is very bland even when he tries to wax purple. terminally normie sensibility.

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Here are some things I've read and liked. I'm mostly into short stories, but I am open to whatever you guys think I should check out. I read for fun on my phone mostly.

You can include a pitch if you want, but I understand that most things are best enjoyed with no context

>Ted the Caver was pretty great
>"Its a good life", 1950s short story about a child with god like powers
>Ted Chiang had a bunch of interesting things I liked (I doubt ive read everything from him)
>Greg Egan also has great stuff (again I doubt ive read all his best works)
>I've read quite a few online creepypasta, a lot of them are bad or lose quality as the story goes on. but "Left Right game" had a really cool premise. I think id be open to reading some more of these even if they get bad quickly.
>I liked some of Stephen King's stories growing up, I thought the Mist was fine
>did not finish house of leaves, I think I liked the premise but it didn't hold my small attention span.
>I have no mouth was fun


I'm fine if the recommendation is light on metaphor and is just an interesting tale. Also as many recommendations as possible would be sick, even if some of the entries are not that good
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Harlan Ellison nigga
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>>24670894
anything by bruno schulz, but i don't know how good are english translations, they are very poetic despite being written in prose
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>>24671917
>Saunders falls flat compared to most of the writers mentioned ITT (and on this board in general)
Why is /lit/ like this? If someone asks for hip-hop recommendations on /mu/, nobody sheepishly posts Injury Reserve while saying "well obviously they're no Wu-Tang Clan but this is fine, I guess, I don't even like them anyway really, but some of their songs are catchy"

It's like you faggots are so concerned with what other /lit/ anons think of you that you have to pretend to disavow anything published after 1990.
>that's because it's all TRASH
Grow up.
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>>24674415
>Sperging out over nothing
Lincoln in the Bardo was ass. Saunders wrote his best work decades ago. You don’t read enough to understand why I added that nuance to my response, and it’s evident in that you don’t recommend anything, and start talking about another board. What an embarrassing and histrionic response.
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>>24674444
Quads of truth. Removing Lincoln from by TBR list.

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I got some old paperback of this today, how is it?

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why can't materialists actually explain what was before the big bang without ironically sounding like magical stories
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>>24673922

There was no "before" the big bang. Time itself started at the big bang
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>>24673936
>not magical in the slightest
lol
>everything was there... somehow, and now there's something
>also we believe in heat death despite it running contrary to an eternal universe
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>>24674619
>There was no "before" the big bang.
What makes you think that?
>Time itself started at the big bang
This is more of a metaphysical statement than a scientific one.
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>>24674522
>If you are a theist and you get butthurt about the Big Bang, you are a post-Christian deist who worships a demiurge
True. It's darwinism that's demonic and false if anything.
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>>24674516
As Dionysius the Areopagite puts it: it is wrong to say of God that He exists and it is wrong to say that He does not exist. But of the two, it is more wrong to say He does not exist."

Apophatic theology is indeed a cornerstone of the ideas I mentioned. I am familiar with Eriugena. In terms of God's nothingness, he makes a distinction between "nothing in virtue of absence" and "nothing in virtue of excellence." God is the latter.

For Aristotle, that God is pure actuality would dictate that God is pure form. But, thanks to "Neoplatonic" insights (scare quotes because some of these were actually borrowed from "middle Platonists" Christians, Jews, and Gnostics, such as Origen, an older contemporary of Plotinus in Alexandria, or Philo) we are not forced to equate actuality with limiting form. There is the idea of a "limiting essence" in Saint Maximus the Confessor, Saint Thomas, or the Islamics for instance (developed in different ways of course).

However, we aside from the via negativa, there is also the analgoia Entis, the path of analogous predication of God, who is revealed in creatures (Romans 1:20; for example, the two first stages of Saint Bonaventure's Mind's Journey Into God)

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Books about working-class people?
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>doesn't know the difference between white trash and working class
Anyways, picrel.
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Work and Days by Hesiod
Piers the Ploughman by Langland
Pickwick Papers by Dickens
Post Office by Bukowski
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>>24673662
I'm going to second this. It's probably the est thing published in Australia in the last fifty years
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>>24673662
Doesn't this guy post here
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>>24673210
My family looks like this. I wish I could write well enough to write a story that would allow someone to feel what it's like to live in that world. It's a lot of little things.. like considering margarine to be butter, ignoring child molestation and spending what little money you have on a 1982 Sears Gamefisher with a 6HP Evinrude to go fishing when you need several thousand dollars of dental work.

What did I think of it?
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>>24666513
I love that guy, but what does he say about jews? I thought he was a jew
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>>24673788
https://jewishstandard.timesofisrael.com/all-his-life-harold-bloom-dreamed-in-yiddish/
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>>24673924
This is so incredibly vapid, it's hard to imagine these people have no self awareness. Imagine the exact same article but it's a German talking about the German language.
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>>24674224
A puff piece is vapid? Shocking.
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>>24672121
But what about Khazar milkers?

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Finally going to tackle Moby Dick soon. Just asking if there's any edition I should be aiming for? e.g if I should try get one with annotations, or just whatever cheapass penguin one.

Also general thread about editions and translations I guess?
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>>24674490
>I don't like penguins.
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>>24674497
Having to fix your config files every time you Pacman -Syu does not make you an interesting person.
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>>24674508
Qué ?
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>>24674587
Me refiero a la gente rara de Arch Linux (pingüino). Ya sabes, los que sin ironía publican la pasta de Stallman GNU/Linux y te dicen lo mucho mejor que es que Windows
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>>24674614
I'd like to interject

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They offered to hire me PT or FT and want to pay me via West Pay Bridge (suspicious site with no Google results). I tried to contact Dundurn, but they didn't respond. The affiliate bank wanted an IMF number. Is this legit, or are they trying to steal my identity? The manuscript they sent me seemed authentic. If this is a scam, then we should notify the real Dundurn Press that someone is impersonating them
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>>24673191
>>24672824
>>24672652
you guys watch tucker carlson don't you? His piece on Russia was bullshit but you won't hear me. The first day I was in Moscow I saw a fist fight in the subway, and a homeless person passed out at the exit with a bottle of vodka. Tucker Carlson is Putin's propaganda cuck.
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>>24674140
>big city has crime and substance abuse evident
idc about russia but this is any big city
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>>24670241
Yeah that's what I was thinking, this scammer is doing God's work, establishing his own legend.
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>>24671486
If they sent you any files (or if you visited their websites) make sure you run a virus scanner on your computer. I wouldn't be surprised if they installed a key logger or something.
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>>24669619
You fell victim to one of the classic Dundurns

Are you white?

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>“The owner of the bookstore came up to me, and put his arm on my shoulder and said, “Would you like to get laid?” His voice was very kind.
>“No,” I said.
>“You’re wrong,” he said, and then without saying anything else, he went out in front of the bookstore, and stopped a pair of total strangers, a man and a woman. He talked to them for a few moments. I couldn’t hear what he was saying. He pointed at me in the bookstore. The woman nodded her head and then the man nodded his head.”
>“Come to me,” she said. “And come inside me for we are Aquarius and I love you.”
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>>24672844
I'm looking for the greentext where anon wants some meme philosopher and the clerk leads him through all these different rooms at which point he comes across a final door, at which point anon finds he is in the alley behind the store and the door locks behind him
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>>24672844
It's a great book and I hate you for presenting this out of context on reeeeeeeeeeee/lit/tard.
>>24672888
That is not a greentext, it is from Trout Fishing in America.
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>>24673445
>“You were seduced by a thirteen-year-old girl, and you and she lived together in an adobe hut, and practically all you did was make love.
>“She was slender and had long dark hair. You made love standing, sitting, lying on the dirt floor with pigs and chickens around you. The walls, the floor and even the roof of the hut were coated with your sperm and her come.
>“You slept on the floor at night and used your sperm for a pillow and her come for a blanket.
>“The people in the town were so afraid of you that they could do nothing.”
>“After a while she started going around town without any clothes on, and the people of the town said that it was not a good thing, and when you started going around without any clothes, and when both of you began making love on the back of your horse in the middle of the zocalo, the people of the town became so afraid that they abandoned the town. It’s been abandoned ever since.”

this shit is so hippy

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>>24674420
Please post an except, it sounds divine and I'm very kind.
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>>24674424
It is my first time ever writing, so I am a bit shy about it. I also had the idea of writing a story about a double above knee amputee woman with a scat fetish.
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>>24674431
I strongly believe your supremely brazen subject matter will deter the typical prose pedantry.
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hahahaha the retard containment thread got its OP image deleted. well done!
/wng/ would never
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>>24674647
N-no. /wng/ is the retard containment thread! You’re the ones who write dumb stupid genreslop for idiots. This is a place for serious intellectuals who write meaningful prose.

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Targaryen Edition

ASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_Page
Blog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/
Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/
So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/
Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/
SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdy
General search: http://searcherr.work/
TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chapters

Old thread:
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>>24668862
I hope they all shit brown water until they die. Their retardation is nauseating.
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So what character-driven fantasy stories have you guys been able to fill the void that ASOIAF left in you?
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>>24673892
But he didn’t come back unchanged, he came back even wiser and more powerful.
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>>24674091
GRRM said he reads LotR once a year, which means he's read it 50+ times at this point. I wonder how the interpretation of events gets morphed by that much time and that many rereads.
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>>24674502
None. It has ruined fiction for me.

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what are some novels that feature long ancestral lineages with some unsavory aspects like Thomas Mann's Buddenbrooks or A Hundred Years Of Solitude?
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>>24674455
The Hound of the Baskervilles


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