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When you read a book, do you visualize the landscape and the people, like a movie scene flowing through your mind?
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This thread actually makes me wonder if some people don't enjoy reading plays or even fiction in general just because they can't imagine what's happening.
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>>24847693
This is exactly how I operate. I've had running stories or 'scenes' that I day dream or think about before bed. I add little bits or change bits, I don't write it down though. I just remember it all.
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>>24842322
I can't see or hear anything at all. For me, the main part of the enjoyment I get from reading is how the author is using language, as well as the concepts he's coming up with. I don't like film adaptations of books I've liked, because they're so slow compared to my reading speed and they (by necessity) miss out the myriad of small details and prose quirks of the author. It's just a film and I know the actors are just actors and everything is fake. With text, it feels as real as any of my memories are, because I have no ability to visualise those either. When I think back to things that have happened to me in the past, I'm essentially describing those events to myself in prose. My pet theory of aphantasia is that it's a fundamentally different "operating system" that a certain percentage of people are running.
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>>24842322
I don't tend to visualise as I'm reading, I just read and remember the words. When I'm thinking about certain scenes afterwards they'll manifest visually without needing to think of the words.
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>>24847078
>I usually imagine the characters as actors I’ve seen in movies or people I’ve known.
exactly the same for me, sometimes when a new character is introduced i need to stop for a few minutes in order to find the right match so the movie in my head can go on

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>writes a juvenile book with simple black and white morality for children
>filled with plotholes
>bad guys are all cartoonishly evil and have no redeeming features
>80 years later manchildren still think he's a genius

Is he the biggest hack to ever hack? Being an adult fan of Tolkien is the easiest way to tell someone is low IQ.
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Shut up, bitch.
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>>24846292
I agree that the fanbase is terrible. Tolkien isn't a hack writer and LotR is not a bad book, but it's a good book for children and adults enjoying it is a red flag.
I read LotR at age 8 and I liked it at the time. That's probably the appropriate age for it.
Adult fans of LotR, more broadly high fantasy in general, are something I'll never understand.
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>>24849844
you sound like an insecure faggot. go read the silmarillion and then tell me if it's supposed to be read by grade schoolers.
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>>24849376
/lit/ (and 4chan as a whole) is full of pseudo-intellectuals who think hating popular things makes them cool. GRRM isn't a hack, but you can't see the real genius of his work unless you have 160+ IQ and high-functioning autism like Preston Jacobs. he tells a parallel story in the history of the noble houses, and their relation to the story requires reading between the lines and careful study, which the pseuds of /lit/ can't pick up on, so they call GRRM a "hack"
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>>24849459
Top kek.
Gurmtrannies completely destroyed.

I need an electornic word processor that
>cannot EVER connect to the internet
>can manage, import, and export text files via usb
>has little to no other function
There's too much shit on my laptop to distract me from writing. I realize there's pen and paper but I don't want to have to rewrite everything I've already written. Any recommendations?
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Nigga just get a typerwriter and fax it if you need to nothings going to be as good as that.

You’re just hyperfixating on some retard issues so you have an excuse to not write. Typewriters are fairly cheap and u can fax em if you need to or whatever tf
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>>24842178
>>24842191
Holy shit this is hilarious, lazy retards will do anything except sit down and actually write lmao
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>>24850358
Yep. They externalize their flaws. Such people will never be successful.
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>>24842178
honestly at this point just use this setup as a virtual machine. SInce it has no GUI it wont need much resources and you wont have to reboot when you'll need to do research.
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>>24850473
the whole point of the setup is to avoid being able to simply open a web browser to avoid distraction.

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>>24850364
lol stop being a pathetic samefag.. we get it, you're better than us and have superior discipline and attention spans and we're all very impressed.

The most badass kid's book in the world.

Who is your bookfu?

For me it's Dorothea from Middlemarch
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>>24850630
Based puritan-esque enjoyer

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I assume that, to better understand greek literature, its historical background must be studied first. What is the list of major events that shaped ancient Greece in this context?
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~1200 BC: the late bronze age collapse. Total civilization reset in the entire Greek cultural sphere. The old dominant Mycenaean culture, as well as what remnants of Minoans existed, all vanished violently in the chaos of the collapse. The old cultures of Greece would only be recalled through myths and legends recorded in later centuries.

~1200 BC - 750 BC: the Greek dark ages. So-called because there is very little written evidence from this period, it is "dark" in the historical record, not because people were more primitive (except perhaps in the faculty of literacy). There's archeological evidence of what went on here, and it suggests small (less than 1000 people) settlements scattered throughout the Peloponnese which saw people gradually re-urbanizing toward the end of the period. Again, not much written down here, but its thought to be when the original versions of myths like the Iliad were formed.

~750-500 BC: the Archaic Age. This is where a lot of the persistent cultural identities and myths were created. New writing systems emerge in the 8th century BC and this is also when Homer himself is thought to have lived. The Iliad is believed to be a mythologized record of a real war in the late bronze age collapse, with the historical city of Troy now known to have stood in western Anatolia being destroyed (several times) during that time period. This is also the time period that we first see the "Dorian Invasion" be mentioned by Greek sources, which is thought to be how the Greeks explained the massive cultural shift that occurred in the wake of the bronze age collapse. Modern scholars now doubt any such invasion occurred, but regardless it is what the Greeks believed to have happened so we must talk about it with regard to Ancient Greek culture and literature. City states like Sparta, for example, based their entire cultural identity on the Doric myth.

500-323 BC: Classical period of ancient Greece, so called because many of the great classical works which we associated with Greece date from this period, like Plato himself. The big breakthroughs in mathematics and philosophy occurred in this period, and it was also when Greece was breaking free of the grip of Persia at the start of it, around 500 BC. After shrugging off Persia, Athens and Sparta proceeded to contend with one another in the Peloponnesian War, whose conflict left them so mauled in the 4th century that the whole region was ripe for conquest by the Macedonians from the northwest. Alexander's conquest marks the end of the Classical era.

324-31 BC: post-Alexander Greece, known as Hellenic Greece, which lasted until the Roman annexation. This saw the absolute peak of Greekification of the Mediterranean and even the middle east and Egypt, and a lot of the later Greek philosophers and mathematicians emerged. Stoicism originated from this period, this was the age of geniuses like Archimedes and Euclid.
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>>24850177
You can find a nice introduction to all things greek in H.D.F Kitto's "The Greeks". It serves as a great introduction to Greek life, thought, history, and so on. From there on out you can go after whatever particular authors you find appealing, but if I may recommend you some:
>Greek myths.
A huge chunk of their literature and values stem from the myths. There's two major Mythologies you can go for.
>Edith Hamilton
Narrative oriented, with the poets, playwrights and historians of Rome and Greece. Very enjoyable, albeit not that complete.
>Robert Graves
More academically oriented, and somewhat dull. Graves doesn't care much for a compelling narrative as he does for stating the facts.
What makes Graves' version so important, is that half of the work is entirely quotes and sources that try to explain the historical setting of certain myths (Such as the rape of Europa).
One thing to note however, his sources are all over the place, and certain details like Orpheus being a kiddy diddler are thrown in without a fully reliable source.

From there on out, you have the classical historians.
>Herodotus' Histories
A mix of myth and history. Herodotus writes about a lot of characters that are reminiscent of old folk-tales, and you should see them as such. His comments on egypt highlight certain aspects of Greek life.
>Thucydides, history of the Peloponnesian war

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>peak
>mid
>slop
>crash out
>unalive
What the hell is up with modern speech turning into newspeak straight out of 1984? The word "ungood" genuinely wouldn't look too out of place with all the neologisms I just listed.
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What's even worse are corporate shills trying to push the "uh actually it's a leetspeak revival, they're just sticking it to the man bro", when the actual solution is to leave the platforms that censor speech
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>unalive
Cringe.
>sewer slide
Based.
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>>24850549
too many syllables man it will always be rope to me and that reminds me i haven't thought about roping in like 24 hours but tomorrow is another day.
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>>24850309
>The word "ungood" genuinely wouldn't look too out of place
That's what 'cringe' is
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>>24850309
>Capital
>Fairish
>Flimflam
>Run mad
>Pass beyond
What in Heaven’s name is become of our language, that it should dwindle into this new projected speech, as foretold by Swift? Soon enough we’ll be saying ill good in earnest, as it'd be good company among these new coinages.

So I finally got around to reading this book and I must say, it's a pretty good apolitical introduction to the history of migration. I came out believing the same thing I did coming in, that we humans are a nomadic species and migration is a fact of life. The right to roam shall not be infringed, chuds.
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>>24850453
In general, people are welcoming of immigrants when they come in small numbers. You can safely immigrate anywhere in SEA.

A takeover is a completely different thing, though.
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>>24850427
The problem is that I don't see any way to escape from organization around monopolies on violence. So, in my opinion, states/countries are here to stay and so are borders.
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>>24850547
leftism is fucking dumb is what it is. "100,000 years ago people lived in stateless tribes therefore all of recorded history is actually the result of a conspiracy and can be reversed!" get fucking real how do academics get away with publishing utter trash.
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>>24850210
>is ought fallacy in the OP
Gives women the ick
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>>24850453
They did indeed.
>Protect
Just don't be dicks, bro. The police exist to aid the powerful and keep you in your place. Not to protect you, but to protect their property claims. If you're from the US, the 2nd Amendment forbids their existence btw.

>>24850547
>I don't see how the 2nd Amendment could possibly protect us from thugs seizing a nationstate
The solution was found. You don't found a state, and you put down any thug who tries. It takes strength of character and vigilance.
>>24850581
"Rightism" is the ultimate dumb when they expect that cages are ideal ways to live. Fucking lazy asses.

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The rules are simple. Rewrite the following story in a different style. Don’t repeat what other anons have already written. I’ll start with three variations.

I was in the McDonald’s on King street. The guy at the front of the line had a bowl cut and a pencil mustache. He accused the guy behind him of breathing on the back of his neck. Then he grabbed his nuggets and fries and quickly left the restaurant.

An hour later I saw him outside the bus station on first avenue. His friend was telling him that his zipper was undone.
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>All these posts using —
what's the point? baiting for (you)s without effort?
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>>24847054
I said it was growing in still, i wont shave, women love a 'stache man, stop saying it looks like your grandma's, where's she from anyway? All the women got mustaches there dont they. Once it grows in itll fit the cut. Stop saying i look like a peasant does your grandma have a bowlcut too or something? Its gonna be like an 80s thing its gonna be based. Lets see how you talk once i get my license and youre stuck here riding the same shitty busline up and down to work forever while im cruisin' in through the drive-thru, windows rolled down, hot chick on my side, chicken nuggets in the bag, fries on the side too, no lowlifes breathing down my neck, always too close, catching up to me, i dont want it, happened again at the Mac, they always get too close. I want to be alone, behind the steering wheel, the world an asphalt plain of rolling under my feet forever, she there too, finally, not talking, just listening to m- ow oops youre right its open.
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Faulkner

The McDonalds sat squat and motionless on king street, as though having been erected over the concrete, it now owned the territory and every man that passed it must acknowledge it, in equal parts disdain and surrender. I entered the joint and stood in the line. Two men were already ahead in the line, one with a ghastly bowlcut, and the other afflicted with a constant slackness of the jaw that left the lips parted for whistling exhalations. Suddenly, the man at the forefront of the line turned around and drowned the succeeding mouthbreather in invective, as though he were a young military upstart and the man with bowlcut a longserving, nuisancehardened colonel. Then he grabbed his package of fries and nuggets and vacated the restaurant hastily.

Sometime later I would see the same man standing outside the bus station. His arms were folded and his mouth chewing, and his brows made him look as though he was meditating on the annoying trifle that he was subjected to an hour ago. Standing beside him, his friend apparent, was asking him to zip up his pants.
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Hemingway:
To get: a portion of abandoned nuggets & fries for free between King street and first avenue - may or may not contain frustralingly nutted nut juice.
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>>24847054
"African-American Vernacular English"

ayo hol up nigga listen ta dis shih listlisten so ya boi pull up ta Mickey D on MLK righ and dis fuggin geekass poindexta lugginass wy boi frunuhda lie wid he bo cut n he lil tinyass moustache nigga luggin fruity as fuck righ he turna roun n luguhda nigga behine im n tell dis nigga he breavin onda bagga he neg den he grab he lil nuggies n he fries n nigga run ow da stow den I see he ass sittin adda bus station on Firs n dis nigga fren tellinum he zippa down

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This is the only genre that makes money and the money train isn't stopping any time soon. Short of a puritanical John Carpenter style government, there will always be demand for this shit.

The question is, can a dude write successful girlporn? This is the literary question.
I'm going to read this milking farm thing and see if I can't get a knack for how women write. I'm suspecting it's a bit like this:

>Minimal attention to details and the world, emphasis on personal impressions and feelings; the world as a set of things that make you feel different ways.
>Braindead, 12-15 year old brain simplicity.
Imagine a Middle School girl trying to "speed download" social gossip updates to a friend.
>Vanity, ego, zero accountability, petty delusions, cliches.
This will require a bit of research and marketing savvy just to collect up what today's cliches are. Fortunately, women are dead simple and just go on TikTok/Twitter and see what buzzwords come up a lot.
>Sultry language.
This one's tough. From what I understand explicit, gross language is what sells this shit and is the female equivalent of visually seeing porn. On the other hand, I have a feeling that I could write porn that is vastly more detailed and explicit than what women read and would alienate them. I have a feeling it's just stuff like, "sweaty" "bulge" "heaving" "cock!" "pulsing". Words that sound distinctly naughty but remain vague. It's not about visualizing, even through text, sexual mechanics. It's about breaking social taboos so women feel "naughty" and liberated from their neurotic sexual restraints.
>Female attraction
This is tough. How far do you go with "big muscles, ripped body"? How much do women want to read that, and when is it too much? Women like being dominated but they like to feel it was their choice to be dominated. As a man who understands women very well, I don't want to tap into their sexual triggers too accurately because that might lead to a sense of "revealing too much" about female sexuality which women don't like. They like most of it to remain implicit and simple.


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>>24850577
Im 70% convinced that these books use ai. Even the covers look ai generated
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>>24850577
>office romance
Too complicated and requiring the development of plot structures. Instead, office romance TROPES, where simple everyday scenarios are textured with STUPID CLICHES so they elevate to a woman's conception of drama. You don't have to actually write drama, you just have to give the experience of "my life is a story and I'm the main character". Trappings and decorations are how that is achieved, and competition over these where the protagonist is never wrong about or punished for anything is how women want to experience drama.

Otherwise, I need to research the right tonality.
>size-difference ecstasy
How do you write this?
>"His probiscus was long and throbbing, with a hard knuckle like knob at the top which pulsated."
vs.
>"He had a cock-like appendage that was bigger than anything her ex boyfriends could produce."
Or
>"When his pulsing knob pushed between her legs she could feel it stretch out every inch of her inner flesh, with resin-hard veins dancing around, tickling her opening. The knob throbbed against her cervix, creating waves of discomfort followed by immediate, unprecedented ecstasy."
vs
>"She felt him inside of her. He was hard, throbbing. Pleasure rippled throughout her body. The sultry passion of a hundred nights with human men flitted out of her mind as she discovered a new depth of ecstasy, she tingled, the love was sweeter even than the warm honey waiting to burst from her lover."
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>>24850587
That means there's room for a market niche. A touch of human panache, a unique voice, a little bit of descriptive color both women and robots can't achieve.
I just have to figure out how to not overdue it, while also hitting on important cliches.
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>>24850035
The woman who wrote this book has been writing smut for a decade, she churns out 4-5 smut books a year
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>>24850627
I am perfectly content to write 10 of these if I can make at least $20k. Lol, I could write 10 in about 6 months with grammarly, no need for AI.

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Oracular edition

>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·
>>24816688

>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·
https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw

>Mέγα τὸ ANE·
https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg

>Work in progress FAQ
https://rentry dot co/n8nrko

All Classical languages are welcome.
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>>24849407
What which why whenever whoever however whysoever whichsoever…
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>>24849407
Skill issue
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greek would be better with the locative
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I want to go into translation targeting untranslated latin works. What are the chances of some computer science guy blowing up this entire field? I've heard computers struggle with Latin right now
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>>24850556
I figure if you have the text digitized an AI could dramatically reduce the workload but there’s a lot of human thought that goes into nuanced translation so most of the work would be like correcting a lesser Latinist’s work than like translating from scratch.

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Is Buddhism the most pessimistic of all the sacred traditions in existence?

>no explanation for 'samsara'/contingent existence to begin with, if you try to ponder or believe in a cosmogonic account you're insane and trapped in delusion
>this samsara is meaningless and our lives are always caught in suffering no matter what, dukkha is the sole enduring truth of this world
>transient existence caught between different modes of being, continuity between gods/devas, humans, animals, etc
>Mahayana tries to make Buddhas into the equivalent of deities/benevolent gods I guess
>you have absolute free will to escape samsara if you wish, but that may take many lifetimes. or you're born into a society without buddhist teaching, and if you can't find one elsewhere, you're screwed
>even beauty, goodness and the wonder inherent in existence is a trap. it makes you temporarily forget dukkha and then you expend your good karmic 'points' and go to hell on the rebound, like if you're reborn as a deva
>the Good is just one side of the duality, Nirvana is beyond both

Meanwhile, Neoplatonism or Tantric Shaivism or Advaita Vedanta have a similar totally transcendent dimension to their practice, but they revere the world and believe it to be inherently good and a ladder to be climbed via appreciation/love/gratitude and ultimately knowledge of the divine author (not separated from self) behind it. The world IS to be left behind but it isn't some Gnostic-tier nightmare trap or as dark as Buddhism says Samsara to be.

Am I in delusion as Buddhists would believe? I used to be quite hostile to Buddhism on account of dogmatic metaphysical principles but don't view it the same way anymore. The actual ascetic practice is heroic. But this particular attitude toward the cosmos is a significant hurdle
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>>24850379
>yet none of these losers have any superpowers besides accepting things as they are.
Which is unfortunately a very hard thing to come by. Its quite the irony that the ends of deep introspection is often a base attunement to causality and those attuned to more basic causal things get distracted by abstractions.
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>>24850393
this is why I think Buddhism actually gets the way to transcendence more or less correct. because Buddhist meditative states somehow align with the experiences of Christian or Islamic mystics, and there's no good reason why besides the possibility that they're all converging onto the same thing.
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>>24850329
>humans have managed to answer many smaller 'why' questions
That's the problem. We think that because we can have answers to these other "why's" we can have answers to questions for which there are no answers (that will please us). This is a matter of evolution and the way we are designed to work by Nature. It's a question of optimization of energies. Why am I tilling this field? So I can grow the crops. Why am I moving this rock? To make a path. We are NOT wired to do things for no reason, and so we ask why are we even here in the first place? This question, as you can see, is just a side effect of evolving to survive as human beings on this planet and the necessity of managing our labors.

The real insight is to stop asking this question, to recognize it for what it is.

Buddha did not speculate on cosmology because he knew it was beyond our ability to ever actually know. If he was around today, he would say the same thing to the question of what was there before the Big Bang or why the Big Bang happened. And he would have completely accepted evolution and natural selection (and cosmology as scientifically laid out since the Big Bang). Nothing he taught would have changed.
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from what i've read on it (all by thich nhat hanh) it doesn't come across as pessimistic to me. but if i'm understanding correctly his schooling of it is the hybrid one that involves some of the chinese stuff
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>>24850128
You take the view that's Buddhism is allegorical psychology?
>The message of the Five Aggregates is that there is nothing to go on after death.
That's a fucking good thing, frankly; man's finitude may be precisely the thing that prevents us from ever having to experience a thing like Hell

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Reading this weekend and he came up. Is this lad out of fashion because he was so dominant in his own time and has become boring, or because he was mid?

My politics are incredibly inflexible so there's no chance of me adopting his views, but is he worth reading out of historical curiosity?
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>>24849743
He's a very good example of those optimistic liberal early sociology positivists from the mid-19th century like Comte and Mill who wax Romantic, but he dares to have some metaphysical and teleological thoughts that make him closer to the German Idealists than either Comte or Mill ever were.
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>>24849743
He's the fool that gave us the misconception of evolution by saying "survival of the fittest"

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>Let me say here that although Chomsky remains a hugely influential figure, the military were not alone in concluding that no part of his theoretical system could ever be made to work. The celebrated concept of ‘deep structure’ had to be abandoned long ago, along with virtually every other concept of the early years. Many linguistics would agree that almost none of Chomsky’s detailed claims about the nature of language has survived the test of time, a point candidly conceded by Chomsky himself.[39]

>For anyone in my position as a lifelong activist, it feels risky to say things that can so easily be misunderstood. No part of my account can detract from Chomsky’s record as a tireless anti-militarist campaigner. Neither can it detract from his persistence in withstanding the institutional pressures that he must have endured at MIT. Had he resigned in disgust in 1967, when he was thinking of doing so, he might never have gained the platform he needed to signal his dissidence across the world. There are times when all of us have to make compromises, some more costly than others. My argument, as I explain in more detail in my book, is that it was Chomsky’s linguistics rather than his activism that bore the brunt of those damaging pressures and costs.

>https://libcom.org/article/when-chomsky-worked-weapons-systems-pentagon-chris-knight

>Universal Grammer was a leftist psyop on the military

Any other theories like this?

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he always sounds like he's about to cry, it's kind of depressing
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>>24848202
Idealism is sooo stupid. It fully admits that we can't escape our brains, that there is no way to "bootstrap" anything beyond what's going on in our heads, and then concludes that must be all there is to existence. In short, it's dumb. It's the same logic as lakes and oceans can't be real because you spent your whole life in a desert.
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>>24848239
check his linkedin, he mogs you into oblivion
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>>24848202
In his most recent book he called some woke globalist academic managerial pajeet that wrote a book unironically advocating for the post world war globalist liberal whatever order as if it were a good thing a prime example of the western spirit and at that moment I realized that nothing this ketchup guy says should be taken seriously.
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>>24850029
did your brain molecules tell you that? materialism is obsolete


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