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To be clear, I'm not talking about people who speak without grammar in game in order to get their messages out faster. I'm talking about those who sit down to compose an image board post with all the time in the world and willfully choose to omit punctuation and capitalization. They are not doing this to save time. In fact, they may take additional time to redact habitual grammar from their posts.

Their motivation for this style of posting is simple. They are trying to present an aura of apathy. They want to communicate: "I don't care about anything, least of all the rules of grammar." The reason they work so hard to cultivate this image of emotional invulnerability is because they are, in actual fact, extremely emotional and unstable people. If you become close to them you will catch glimpses of the volatility lurking beneath their patchwork mask of cool indifference. The lowercaps poster will silently catalog transgressions you have in its eyes committed. You will only become aware of them during the rare tantrum blowups that characterize these people. They must be avoided for your own good. The faux-apathetic lowercaps posters really could not be more pathetic.
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>>24725236
4chan posters look like THIS?!?!
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>>24727336
Camp of the Saints is probably the most impactful white nationalist novel. You should definitely read that.

But you can analyze many texts from race realism and white nationalism, the same way you can from a post-colonial or feminist perspective. Check out Trevor Lynch's writing on Counter-currents.com , he does many film reviews from the perspective of white nationalism.

Both Counter-currents and American Renaissance (Jared Taylor's organization) are a treasure trove of information. Just go through the archives and you'll see many film and book reviews. They even review black nationalist texts like The Isis Papers and the writings of W.E.B Du Bois.
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>>24727345
Interesting, thanks. Studying ancient Greek thought (Plato) and the love of wisdom or self proximation makes life a whole lot more enjoyable. But thank you, Ill check them out.
Lux et Veritas.
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>>24725703
seconding this, I mostly type with one hand, so all lowercase is more convenient, dont know what happened to op to seethe so hard about it. Dunno you guys read too much into it. ever thought about that theres the slight chance that some people only have uppercase words because they are phoneposting and its automatic? do you think their posts have more merit than others you dumb fuck. Wish i could be so passionate about such irrelevant things
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>>24727366
OP is just a tranny who probably lost a debate with some autist or chud on this retarded site.
Plus would in terms of pic

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>Start with the Greeks
Uhh yeah no, I'm not going that far back but I am willing to start with the Byzantines
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>>24727350
A Byzantine theologian would unironically tell you to start with the Greeks (although just Plato, Aristotle and Plotinus)
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>>24727350
Studying people who studied the greeks? Kek, just start with the Greeks, it would be beneficial for you especially. You can study Plotinus or Proclus at least.

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Its amazing how you can take the greatest literary works of all time, some taking years if not decades to write, and make them look like shitty college psychology textbooks.
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>>24719963
Earlier than that zoomer.
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I don't know what I hate more. Overly "minimalist" covers or covers that feature stills or a sticker for a movie adaptation.
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>>24727146
Its been happening for decades. OVERsimplification occurred in the 2020s.
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>>24727097
Eww
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>>24727097
The illustrated by the author edition is better

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Post your own work and critique others.
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>>24697242
I saw the boom boom nerd minds of my generation babyraged by madness, starving hysterical naked peach love dragging men through map the negro streets at dawn looking santa for pill an angry weary fix, hammer angelheaded hipsters burning fire for earth africa the fast forward ancient heavenly connection to clap the starry dynamo in the cloud rain machinery of sweat drops night, point right who interrobang poverty money with wings and tatters fearful and raised hand hollow-eyed and high point up sat toilet up smoking smoking in earth africa the supernatural darkness tired face of cold-water flats floating across moneybag the tops of thumbsup cities cityscape contemplating thinking jazz, who baby bared their brains sleeping to heaven under the wolf el and point left saw mohammedan angels staggering on tenement roofs illuminated, who thinking passed through comet universities with no mouth radiant cool eyes eyes hallucinating arkansas and blake-light tragedy among moneybag the scholars of tokyo tower war, who joy were clap expelled from the clap academies for crazy & publishing obscene odes on on the clap windows of sweat drops the clap skull, skull who cowered in weary unshaven rooms in underwear, burning fire their eggplant money money mouth in clap wastebaskets and clap listening ok hand to pensive the terror bomb through point right the ocean wall, keyboard who information desk person got cocktail busted in heartpulse their pubic beards returning back through laredo with rage a a belt peach of boom marijuana for eggplant new york, statue of liberty who baby ate fork and knife fire in paint hotels or drank turpentine in clap paradise island alley, death, skull or sweat drops purgatoried their eggplant torsos night after soon night new moon with face with dreams, zzz with couple drugs, syringe with waking nightmares, alcohol tumbler glass and sweat drops cock eggplant and tongue endless balls, sweat drops incomparable blind eyes streets of shuddering cloud and clap lightning thunder cloud rain in b the mind leaping toward poles of blush canada & paterson, illuminating all the red circle motionless world earth africa of time between, peyote solidities of man halls
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And so we ended how we started
A ball of hate and a bundle of nerves
But somehow I doubt you cry like me
Shielded by your blessed forgetfulness. Were I so lucky!
If only to quiet the echoes of a child bound and tortured

That did bind us together, the pain we carried
Fragments of the kids we were and might have been
Blessed scraps of joy and love and peace and innocence
But it didn't work, and it couldn't: Our chasms aligned just once
So I wasted years in selfish stagnant sloth
Yours deluded, childish, unaware
The happiest and the most miserable for us both

Worse off than before, every moment is torture

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>>24726865
shoot up your local planned parenthood
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>>24727147
No that's retarded
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>>24697242
In the hallowed sanctum of ephemeral sighs,
Where ardor’s quintessence weaves its silken thread,
Love, that ineffable dialectic of souls,
Ascends beyond the prosaic veneer of flesh.

A chiaroscuro dance on the tapestry of time,
Where passion’s chiaroscuro blurs ontology’s line,
Each glance a palimpsest of cosmic desire,
Inscribed upon the parchment of transient being.

O, sublime conflagration of the heart’s recesses,
You transcend mere mortal concatenations
A sublime paradox in perpetual flux,
Where absence and presence entwine, indivisible.

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>Buddhism doesn't believe in Go-
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>>24721613
there is no ultimate “ground of being” in all schools of buddhism
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>>24726929
sutta nipata
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>>24727258
Edward Conze on Evola
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>>24727332
Metaphysicslly this is an impossibility
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>>24727338
metaphysics is crypto materialism

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Learning From Web Novels Edition

Stubbed >>24717589

>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>Advice for Noobs!

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>>24727265
neither quality nor success has anything to do with this nebulous horseshit

stop buying into the the literary equivalent of corporate buzzspeak
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Just found your thread.

Who are the people shelling out 100s of dollars a month to no name shitty fanfic writers in 2025?

I mean who is the demographic? I'm actually curious, I thought ADHD and LLMs killed self-published authors.
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>>24727339
just shows how out of touch you are with reading
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>>24727346
You're probably right. Nowadays I don't read anything but soviet era scifi.

But you didn't answer my question.
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>>24727349
people who like reading are the demographic

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This is better than Ulysses
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It is certainly easier to plotfag. All of his novels and his short story collection are the same—or more accurately, attempts at the same thing—writing literature which will live and grow with the reader. Portrait is weirdly a step backwards from Dubliners as far as that goal goes, but it was a required step and Dubliners was sort of a cheat.
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>>24727318
Not really. It's just a worse version of Pierre

Is this obtainable in any way in the EU, other than paying 90 euro for a first edition from the US or waiting till april 2026 for the dalkey rerelease with that abominable cover?
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>>24723220
what's the different between The Tunnel by Ernesto Sabato and The Tunnel by William H. Gass

someone recommended The Tunnel once and I picked the Spanish one, still not sure if I was reading the right book
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>>24727106
About all they have in common is that they are both novels. The tunnel imagery sort of, but not really.
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I saw that exact edition for like 15 dollars in mexico and didn't get it. I regret it now.
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>>24727106
>what's the different between The Tunnel by Ernesto Sabato and The Tunnel by William H. Gass
What do you mean? They're completely different books. Sabato's tunnel is about a young lonely artist who falls in love with a slutty women and then bad things happen. Pretty short and straightforward. Gass's tunnel, I haven't read, but it's a much complex and longer novel, thematically and stylistically (from what I've heard).
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>>24726819
Majority of secondary material is written by critics and for critics, it assumes you more or less understood. Criticism mostly treats interpretation as banal, any work which is worth reading will get its point across well enough that most anyone in criticism will understand so criticism mostly explores other things, like interpreting a work through a single phrase that was repeated a couple times. People who rely on secondary sources for forming their interpretation often get fixated on a secondary source for one reason or another and don't understand that the secondary source is not an interpretation, it is an analysis.

You can almost reduce The Tunnel to "fascism of the heart," and in the right company it could be enough, but it will not to put anyone who reduces it to that, on the ropes. /lit/ is not the right company and that anon's post strongly suggests not having a clue.

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Lieh Tzu
>Everything in this world is interconnected
Anaxagoras
>Everything in this world is interconnected
Marcus Aurelius
>Everything in this world is interconnected
Siddhartha Gautama
>Everything in this world is interconnected
Arthur Schopenhauer
>Everything in this world is interconnected
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel
>Everything in this world is interconnected
Mohandas Gandhi
>Everything in this world is interconnected
Alfred Whitehead

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>>24725123
It's the old problem of the one and the many. If you affirm interconnectedness above all else you end up with "everything" being just one thing. If you affirm isolated being, you get a slide into multiplicity, and ideologies like corpuscular mechanism. The solution is an understanding of participation and the Analogia Entis, or being as incarnation and exitus and reditus as ordered to theosis.
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>>24725123
whatchu know about that
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>>24726858
>redditus
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>>24725123
No shit. The problem is Why. I can't even make sense of why the sky is the way it is, and it is truthfully driving me mad.
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>>24727104
The sky is driving you mad? Wait till you look into space.

Every single white author that came after Marcus Aurelius sees suffering as a problem or an evil to be avoided, resolved, or overcome. Even the materialist doctrines of Scientism and Marxism succumb to this. Literally no other culture has authors that act like snowflakes when it comes to suffering
The only exception is Camus
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OP needs to read more.
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Wtf are you talking about have you even read Meditations
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>>24726833
Have you heard of the Buddha yet, my guy?
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>>24726833
Ah yes. Blacks are famous for not portraying themselves as victims.
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>>24726833
>Every single white author that came after Marcus Aurelius
The romanz weren't white. The barbarians thet raped were.

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How could a dictator create the conditions necessary for great writers in their country?
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>mustang
Nice, looks like a Player II.
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>>24726476
To an extent, yes. Unfiltered access to the internet does stifle creativity in a way. While we have access to unimaginable resources, it’s like being put in a warehouse with an infinite amount of very art supply in the world, then being told to make a masterpiece. The freedom is overwhelming, especially for people with the capacity for creativity.

Limits on resources and access to information, help create more personalized world views that actually have something to say. When everyone has access to unlimited information all the time, especially regarding current events, they often feel the need to curate opinions on everything, and in today’s world where one moment of a “wrong” opinion, creates a strong social backlash, people develop homogenous worldviews with nothing unique to say about it, just parroting a few tastemakers that can get an opinion out fast enough to be accepted by enough people. And even if they do have something worth saying, the internet lets them say it in short-form, and be rewarded with immediate praise from their peers about how “good” their opinions are.

So, yeah. Oppression that limits access to information in some ways, might yield some interesting art
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Napoleon inspired authors through his sheer greatness
>Toujours lui ! Lui partout ! — Ou brûlante ou glacée,
>Son image sans cesse ébranle ma pensée.
>Il verse à mon esprit le souffle créateur.
>Je tremble, et dans ma bouche abondent les paroles
>Quand son nom gigantesque, entouré d’auréoles,
>Se dresse dans mon vers de toute sa hauteur
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>>24726467
>ban phones
>abolish rent
>cut the length of the working day
>crush the profiteers
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>>24727178
I almost bought one of those but I ended up getting an 62 AVRI Jazzmaster and eating beans and rice for a couple months. The tremolo sold me.
>>24727260
>t. zoomer

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Voltaire drank 50 cups of coffee a day, and wrote prolifically. Balzac drank 50 cups of coffee a day and wrote prolifically.

What is your excuse?
>the publishing industry is rigged
everything has always been rigged. GET OVER IT
>lit departments are all left leaning
what are YOU going to do about it?
>I have to go to my job
So did Bukowski. So did Celine. So did Faulkner. GET OVER IT
>I don't have a job
Neither did Cormac. Neither did DeLillo. GET OVER IT

Until you start drinking 50 CUPS OF COFFEE A DAY, you are not allowed to make excuses, not here, not in real life, not even to yourself in your own mind

if you're not drinking 50 CUPS OF COFFEE A DAY, you are clearly not willing to DO WHAT IT TAKES

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>>24727220
breeding your "son" isn't going to propagate the genes
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>>24726628
WE GAAN
GAAN NING
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>>24726413
>What is your excuse?
I don't want to create, I just like to read and learn.
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>>24726508
>but they were also brewing espresso
Wasn't a thing until the late 19th century also not stronger just more concentrated.
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>>24726417
Jules Verne drank coca infused wine

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I just wanted to say I absolutely loved this book as a kid and loved the sequel Speaker for the Dead. I plan on getting into Xenocide as well.

I also heard the final book just came out and I'm excited to get into it but it also brings in the "Shadow" series. I've never read them how are they?
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>>24724623
God Emperor is balls-achingly boring.
At least something happens in the last two books.
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Isn't it weird that Ender's Shadow totally negates the singular importance that Ender had in Ender's Game? Shadow implies that Bean would have been a better choice.
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>>24725417
>God Emperor is balls-achingly boring.
Its a character focused exploration of Leto. Compared to 5 and 6... where hardly anything happens, and all that excellent character writing is thrown out of the window.
>At least something happens in the last two books.
There's only one decent POV in 5 that makes me not call it completely trash. 6 is actually just abysmal dogshit, it was probably for the best we never saw 7 considering it would've been worse in all likelihood.
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>>24725014
How fucking gay. Imagine milking it this far. How embarrassing.
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>>24727271
Does it? I don't remember it much but I'm pretty sure it said multiple times that Bean is too autistic to be a good leader and his superintelligence is borderline useless because people don't like him as much as Ender.

The wikipedia article on Asperger syndrome says those who have it have poor prosody.

But isn't dependence on prosody for conveying information really a sign that the language is poor? When I say language I mean in the sense of English, Latin etc are languages.

When I asked chatgpt about prosody it gave this as an example of what prosody is.

>How the voice rises at the end of a sentence to indicate a question:
>"You're going to the store?"

In English you can change the word order to indicate a question, but nevertheless this is an example chatgpt gave, and something people often do, to use this word order and yet mean it to be a question. However in Latin this is not a problem because Latin originally didn't even have the question mark, but instead used the suffix "-ne". A question mark is in writing only, it does not transfer to speech, just like a comma. You don't say out loud "question mark" or "comma", but rather this is conveyed by prosody, in the example above by rising voice.

My point is that while the question mark often requires prosody to convey its meaning in speech, the suffix "-ne" does not. And it's the same thing with comma, Latin didn't originally have the comma, and it doesn't transfer to speech other than through prosody. Instead Latin conveyed the meaning through other means such as suffixes which you have in speech just as much as in writing, ie there is no need for prosody to communicate a suffix.

Given that English relies on prosody to convey the equivalent in speech in many instances where there is question mark and comma in writing, and given that Latin didn't even have question mark and comma originally, and both before and after the addition of question mark and comma to Latin it does not require neither these forms of punctuation, nor their speech counterpart which is prosody, I'd say that Latin a) is less dependent on prosody than English, b) is a richer language, and c) English uses punctuation and prosody to try to make up for its poverty.

>makes a mockery of leftards' wet dreams (the Houyhnhnms) 70 years before there was a true left wing
Dangerously based
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...anon...the joke was that Houyhnhnms are better humans than humans...Swift was mocking humanity for being morally bankrupt.
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Oh, I've got some different wet dreams that are mocked in here, ha ha.
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>>24726521
>better humans than humans
>caste system with some Houyhnhnms at the bottom, elite Houyhnhnms can't have more than a child of either sex and must swap with another if they do, etc...
The thing is you are right, they are better humans than humans. But they are still pathetic and flawed nevertheless


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