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The only book on psychoanalysis/yourself/everyone that /lit/ needs to read
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>>24956351
Defensive much eh? I always find interesting when people dislike something good for them, but when they actually hate it, well then it's just sad.
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>>24955539
>psychoanalysis
faggot
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>>24956380
Yes, books have footnotes. Unless that's your weird way of asking what footnote 1 says.
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>>24956386
I think it’s because the ‘footnote’ takes up more space than the entire font

What does /lit/ think of Hawthorne? Most Americans have either never heard of him or hate him because they were assigned 'The Scarlet Letter' in high school and Amerikkka is an insane asylum, and its public schools are like a suicide ward. But Poe said that "we look upon [Hawthorne] as one of the few men of indisputable genius to whom our country has as yet given birth." And America's second greatest writer, Melville, was deeply respectful of Hawthorne. What does /lit/ say? Is he a great writer, or just great for an American?
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Here, everybody read this, if you haven't already:

https://americanliterature.com/author/nathaniel-hawthorne/short-story/my-kinsman-major-molineux
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Love Hawthorne, the great American Author. I recently finished his travel essays from when he worked at the liverpool consulate, they're very good, I think I prefer them to his novels. I'd also reccomend Henry James's biography of Hawthorne, it gives good insights into the mindsets of both authors.

>>24954289
Hawthorne is obviously condeming adulterty, if he wasn't there would be no dramatic interest. Your english teacher just got filtered.

>>24954150
Poe wrote an interesting review of Hwthorne where he criticizes his use of allegory and gives his criteria for proper use of allegory which is sort of interesting, He also directly compares him to Milton and talks about Paradise Lost, you should look it up.
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>>24956115
Borges wrote about Hawthorne, too. It's interesting that three other notable writers wrote about this one.
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I find it funny that there's a recent edition of The Scarlet Letter that unintentionally looks exactly like the cover art of The Culture of Critique.
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>>24955798
I think very few teachers/professors are equipped to teach Hawthorne well because they go for a very basic trudge through his symbolism in a didactic manner and don’t appreciate or emphasize his irony enough.

2025 is almost over. What's the best book you read this year?
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>>24947281
Tess of the d'Urbervilles
Last and First Men
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>>24949595
Holy smokes, I just finished this the other day and wanted to post it. Honestly a total surprise, I thought it was a midwit airport novel but it turned out a masterpiece.
Other favorites:
The Peloponnesian War
Room to Dream (David Lynch memoir/biography)
Diary of a Man in Despair
The Galactic Pot-Healer
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either The Elementary Particles or The Tartar Steppe
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>>24947281
A Cycle of the West.
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>>24955741
I wish I'd read Tartar Steppe earlier in life. Mostly just so it wouldn't come off so incredibly grim reading it in my 30s.

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Why is Hegel suddenly so popular?
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Is this the hegelian e girl wannabe who crashed and burned miserably a year or two ago? I remember super artificial shilling for her and the other chick trying to cash in on /lit/ simp NEETbux and then they had some sort of catfight and dropped off the internet. Very shameful display, regardless.
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>>24954644
I love women
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>>24954740
It's funny how everyone on 4chan uses midwit as an insult, even though, statistically speaking, they likely are midwits themselves.
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>>24954922
>>24954500
I have a PhD in philosophy and have never read Hegel.
>>24954922
>Philosopher
Okay so she is a 2014 era grifter. She should have said "pop culture critic" but I guess without USAID you have no choice but to appeal to weirdos like posters itt.>>24955183
Literally this
>>24955521
This is the only hegel I have now read and I get why feminists don't like him. Post more of this.
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>>24954500
He's not and never will be.

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>this literal cuck raceplay fantasy is regarded as an important part of British literature
What the actual fuck?
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>>24955457
Oh my god. I just read a synopsis and this one's so much worse.

>...there is something fanatical about the way he (her husband) abjectly worships Daphne, in a strange scene insisting on getting right down on his hands and knees and kissing her feet

>Somewhat predictably they end up sitting together on the couch in the darkness but then, completely unpredictably, with the deep absurdity of Lawrence, she throws herself at his (the count's) feet and kisses them, bathing them in tears, and he feels like an Egyptian god, sitting erect.

>Basil notices and the next evening, as they’re preparing for bed, asks her if she loves the Count. She doesn’t reply because she doesn’t know. By this time a lot of the initial lust for her has damped down and, at this, it vanishes. Now Basil feels for Daphne like a sister, a much more profound, pure and wonderful emotion. So he tells her he will never touch her again in a sexual way but will love her with a pure devotion. For her part, Daphne knows she belongs to the Count now
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>>24955416
Lady Chatterly's lover was also essentially cuckplay softcore porn. Guy was a complete degenerate.
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>>24955416
Yes op, it's 75% cuckery. The remaining 25% is always a split between having the phallus and keeping the jouissance or asking if the other has the phallus in order to get them to leave you alone, on the off chance they claim to have it then the cucking is on them. Brutal system but it does work.

It's time to explain this to you but you won't understand, the explanation is still going to happen. There is no such thing as a sexual relationship, genders are just garbage. It's just a recognition process for desire and the auditory noises provide a sort of S/s signification registry. You seem to be a sort of polymorphous thing so the faster you realize it's all garbage and it's all cuckery the faster you will be able to assemble whatever semblance of objet you can still manage. If you can't perform the desire recognition checks then it will always cuck you. If you can provide them then it will still cuck you. If the signifiers reinforce your loop then you need to check for appropriate feedback input to make sure it's signification registry is working. You get cucked either way.

>report to Comrade Kaczinski for work detail.
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>>24955416
>hmm an adultery novel, one of literature's finest premises
>will I read it in sympathy of the unhappy woman, or the cavalier passion of the seducer
>no! i will self-insert as the cuckolded man
All on you. Lawrence is the greatest English writer of the 20th century.
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>>24956341
It portrays anti-social behaviour as heroic. What's there to sympathize with? The gypsy is basically a variation of the noble savage.
The protagonist hates her family because they're "too civilized" and because they scold her for stealing money out of a charity box. She's utterly unreasonable.

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Why aren't we allowed even one (1) /tv/ show any more?
Why is there a rule that visual media must exclusively be for illiterate proles?

How are you supposed to write multiple characters without all of them sounding the same, or sounding like yourself
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Lest men suspect your tale to be untrue,
Keep probability—some say—in view.
But my advice to story-tellers is:
Weigh out no gross of probabilities,
Nor yet make diligent transcriptions of
Known instances of virtue, crime or love.
To forge a picture that will pass for true,
Do conscientiously what liars do—
Born liars, not the lesser sort that raid
The mouths of others for their stock-in-trade:
Assemble, first, all casual bits and scraps
That may shake down into a world perhaps;
People this world, by chance created so,
With random persons whom you do not know—
The teashop sort, or travelers in a train

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>>24954674
you can base your characters and their attributes on people you know, actors you like, etc.
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schizophrenia helps
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>why, ya'll give 'em characters of yours outrageous accents, partner.
>sacre bleu! That eez genius!
>Nein! Zat waz mein idea! You haff schtolen eet from mein Aryan prowess!
>Chillax, mon. A leetle bud and eveting be awright.
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Make them different races.

"Chanukah" edition

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Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.
Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.
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>>24956082
I have the same problem of overcomplicating my plots and making it more convoluted than it needs to be. In these cases, the author's voice leaks clearly through, and this is how you get overly preachy moralistic filth that seems more concerned on lecturing and nagging.
It helps to reframe the act of writing by aiming for a mild form of ego-death. It's not you that writes the story. The story writes itself through you.
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Is this too preachy?
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I love excerpts, but I would never read one.
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>>24956147
a lot of scattered cliches, its impossible to tell what youre trying to say. i like parts of the last paragraph because its more grounded, both in the world and in the single piece of dialogue.
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>First agent got back to me in less than 24 hours with a rejection
I thought the word count was a meme. Time to artificially inflate the novel by 30,000 words

are there any scientifically published books that have analysed why japanese people are so... particular about tidyness and obsessed with mastering everything they know?
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>>24956328
wrong thread
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And is there also one that explains why India is a mess? Or why Muslims love to rape?
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>>24956315
Geography and Buddhism.

>>24956327
>this is a new phenomena since WWII

>>24956449
>why India is a mess
Because it's full of Indians.
>why Muslims love to rape
Because women refuse to have sex with them.
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bump for interest
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>>24956315
Those are stereotypes. Japanese people live in homes that are in disrepair and molding and an earthquake away from killing everyone inside.

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What will his legacy be?
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Formal languages
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chomsky_hierarchy
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>>24956365
Being a Génocidaire who escaped justice for his roll as PR in the Cambodia business.

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>be a massive cunt your entire life
>write books about how much of a cunt you were
>people love them
what does that mean
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>>24956381
>Men have one joke and it sucks
Tits or GTFO
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>>24954742
No they don't. It's a fantasy, and fantasies are make believe worlds where somehow your kinks work. If women liked being abused, the shithole countries where they get segregated and mutilated since birth would be utopias.
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>>24956413
Men have 2 jokes and they suck
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>>24954705
It means he's a plant, you moron
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>>24954705
People love a cunt. See doctor house

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You hear about a guy who buys a sports car on his forty-first birthday and comes roaring out of his midlife crisis behind the wheel of an MG Midget.

One whose mother died took to the cultivation of roses.

One whose oldest son left home received instruction from Father Duryea at St. Anthony’s.

One whose marriage ended traveled first to Israel, then to Africa.

They all suffered from pains. These pains were informers sent by death.

One who heard mechanical noises in his ears attached a mirror to his shoe and stood in crowds where women gathered.

One who wore his hair swiped upward from his right sideburn abjured the love of women and sought the love of men.

One who could still see the bus when the bus was nice and near started responding to the propositions written on cards and left in street-corner telephone booths.

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There is no fundamental difference between reading novels (mental consumerism, psychological), watching TV shows (audio-visual consumerism, physical), and eating abundant food (consumerism of taste and flesh, biochemical).
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>>24956463
>I can't understand it, so it's bait!
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>>24956460
Honestly this is rage bait but I kinda agree that reading isn’t a high tier hobby. As a pastime it is much better than tv, gaming or YouTube of course

>Harry Potter's mom fell in love with the school bully
What did Rowling mean by this?
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>>24955804
I really don't understand bully apologists on this site. Is this the result of terminal contrarianism? Or the desire to have been friend with the bully in some kind of parasitical underage stockholm syndrome?
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>>24955951
This. Bullies are protected in today's age. I've been hearing this since childhood. I don't know how the idea of being a troublemaker somehow made someone noble.
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>>24956114
>The boy is his bully's son, but he sacrifices his life for him anyway.
This is kinda cuckish ngl
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>>24954808
Lmao based
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>>24955804
based and correct.

>First time reading myth of Er in the Republic
>nearly 1:1 retelling of the Christian myth of afterlife judgement, down to virtue vs vice/sin, tribulations and suffering for sinners, and Tartarus/hell for worse offenders
>wonderful heaven vistas for the virtuous before choosing ones next Daemon and REINCARNATING
>the man who supposedly told this tale died in battle and resurrected
>all with same book that the Noble lie was introduced to the Western cannon
WTF. Is Christianity just a Platonic noble lie
-religion? What are the actual origins to this religion? This isn’t even including other religion and myths ranging with the same motifs that predated Christianity.
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>>24955611
> justin martyr
Qrd?
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>>24955711
representing the greek nation doing the stoic -> Christian
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>>24954196
>Epstein's role as a relationship fixer (and frankly the weird relationship choices of many of the elites) and Plato's concept of a eugenical orgy where the elites all sleep with each other and don't know who's kid belongs to who. Now think about that in relation to the movie 'eyes wide shut'.
Keep this in mind when you notice weird resemblances between celebrities who are allegedly unrelated. Their children, too.
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>>24954285
>IIRC scholarship also suspects Plato’s mysticism and metaphysics being derived from his trips to Egypt along with mystical Pythagoreanism
Some of Plato's mouthpieces are Pythagoreans and people who brag about their trips to Egypt. It's definitely how he wanted to be understood at the time. (Though I'm unsure how much true Egyptian influence there is beyond borrowing the prestige of such an old civilization.)
>All of this of course just adds up to Christianity being a chimera crafted by only God knows who during and in the wake of the Roman-Jewish wars.
It's chimeras all the way down, right? Judaism mutated and syncretized from Canaanite religion, picked up Babylonian influence, picked up Persian influence, Hellenized a bunch. After Jesus came into the picture it had to make itself palatable to the intelligentsia of Rome, which before getting Hellenized was already happily absorbing religious practices from Etruscans and such.
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>>24954076
Yep, the typical Christian understanding of the afterlife is FAR closer to ancient Greek (and Persian) beliefs than anything from the Old Testament. Just read Aeneas' descent to the underworld in the Aeneid, you'd think the description of Tartarus is the Christian Hell, but it was written before Christianity even existed. Remember that the Jews had been conquered by the Persians, then the Greeks, then by the Romans. They became heavily influenced by Zoroastrian and Graeco-Roman religipn and philosophy, the idea of judgement after death taking you to a place of reward or punishment was not one of their indigenous beliefs. Just read 2 Samuel and how it treats the afterlife: the ghost of Samuel is brought up from beneath the Earth and he's pissed off about it because he knows he should stay dead. There's no concept of heaven or hell yet. But in later Jewish texts you get the idea of afterlife punishments or rewards, like in the book of Enoch. Christianity of course grew out of 1st century Judaism which had adopted these ideas, and it also adopted directly from Greek and Roman beliefs because it quickly spread to gentiles.


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