G.K. Chesterton somehow knew a /lit/ard
>>24696153You get that with certain TV shows and Internet memes too. Recently I've been watching Community and there's an "oh, so that's where that's from" every two or three episodes.
is "saucy fellow" the bard's "spoony bard"?
Someone redpill me on this bitch. Is she just bad, or do her books have any literary merit whatsoever?
>>24690496Her second attempt at literary fiction's coming out this time next year. Over/under on her including a scene where a mousy Asian academic is tormented by her hatred of white people but her love for BWC?
>le nipsI thought she was a chink!>rf kuangHad a gf who liked her. Cannot imagine anyone but the fakest of fakes reading her Yellowfafe. Seems almost confessional in meta ironic way. Poppy War seemed like YA. But did not delve deep. Vaguely proggy but safe bipoc feminista fantasy. Read Babel. Was unimpressed. But maybe if I was a teeniebopper I would have enjoyed it more. Typical YA fantasy. Supposedly dark academia or smthn. But if you wish for that then read Tartt's Secret History which at least tries to say something more interesting.
>>24691167This substack article is pointless and petty, but I realize my complaints about RF Kuang are the same. I tried bolstering my complaints against Babel (the only book of hers that I've read) and I can't, she's too debate-team-captainy for me. Maybe I was wrong. Am I being pointless and petty?
>>24692546It's striver literature. The striver doesn't think, create, innovate, push boundaries, or make new. The striver strives. The striver wants you to know they've done the reading and got the awards and got the applause. The striver cannot communicate without bragging. The striver does not exist when nobody is looking at them. The striver understands nothing about the world except for achievement. The striver cannot distinguish between being impressive and being meaningful. Kuang does not want you to think with her, or to think through the ideas she presents, she wants you to know she knows about the ideas she presents. It's the logic of the professional test-taker. Understanding doesn't matter. Neither does genuine creation. The only thing that matters is ticking the right box and getting the high score. Striver literature.
>>24695581More and more I begin to feel like I should never read a book that wasn't written by a dead white man.
Do you agree a major book has to digest for 1+ year before you can have an actual real opinion on it?
not necessarily, but honestly a lot of the time is can take weeks for me to digest something, then a second read through to truly 100% appreciate there have indeed been times when i've left a book feeling disappointment, or at least uncertain/unsatisfied, only to come back and love it after mulling it over in my head for a few weeks
>>24695765>>24695836>Is Lawton a pseud?>A long book by a MAJOR writer demands...He admits to, borderline brags about, judging books by the fame of their author and not on their own merit, so, I'd say yeah, absolutely.
>>24696012Some books you immediately love. Some books you immediately hate. But the best kind are the ones you have a complex relationship with. The ones you grow to acknowledge, or even love.That said, the twitter tranny OP is quoting is a fag. You WANT to form an opinion early to see how it evolves over time.
>>24695765He couldnt crowdsource his opinion yet so he had to defer it until consensus was established
John Cowboy dives into deep sea at dead of night. One passenger missing from submerged plane and yet how. X-Files theme plays.Alice in Lalaland talks to Machine Elf Billy. He talks plain nonsense, occasionally summons his infernal buddies for looney tunes vaudevilles.John Western walks around a lot, goes to bars, talks to his buds. Witty dialogue, erudite references. Sheridan was the cool guy's name I think.CIA guys after John. Or was it FBI. Brief mention of aliens. John drifts from place to place, fleeing his persecutors. Keeps talking to people at bars. Long dialogues, colorful characters. That one guy in the filthy trailer with the obese girlfriend.Alice talks to ghost midget. Names renowned mathematicians. Works on her math shit. Midget bumbles around, babbles nonstop.The gold in the basement. The logistics involved. Scifi mystery never resolved. John wanders aimlessly. A McCarthy novel after all. The implied incest. Or outright stated. And so on.
If I were to explain as succinctly as I can the failure of contemporary poetry, I can do no better than to post this meme.
>>24695982Poetry still exists, it's just published as sound recordings set to music rather than in print.
FlexYourStack
>>24694996The Screwtape Letters>>24695095Even if she is, my recommendation is the same.
>>24695189Citizen of the GalaxyNightfall and Other StoriesTrue Names
>>24695339>>Sons and Lovers by D.H. LawrenceKinda boring and vaguely incestuous. Not his best. I liked the coal miner father the most.
Good day at work today
>>24687634>True education is done by the individual.I could not agree more, anon. Most of my profitable learning is done independently. The attainment of a degree is just a foot in the door at this point. I can't stress this enough. It sometimes feels like I am more aquainted with certain topics than my professors, and I am still in undergrad.
Does /lit/ do audiobooks? What are some good ones I can listen to as I go to bed? Already listened to all of Michael Crichton's stuff and ten thousand TTC Audio Lectures about History.
>>24695938I suppose you're already familiar with LibriVox?
What did you like/dislike about this book?
>>24694407i like the froggy bookmarks :)
>>24694407Ne shutka. Rjaka :)
I've tried reading it twice. Dropped it after a few hundred pages when I just didn't care about any of the characters and the humor wasn't landing for me.
It's my favorite book. My favorite part is when the OUS, conducting a technical interview on Molly Notkin, are shining a bright light on the subject's face to extract as much information as possible, and in this process replaces the lightbulb with a much bigger lightbulb. Fucking hilarious.
>>24694407I'm 2/3rds of the way through. I keep having to stop for weeks at a time because it gets me too depressed. I can't put my finger on it, but every time I pick it back up I feel like my life becomes worse.
Skip one of these and you turn out a complete retard.
>>24695038This is my trivium in three books guide.>GrammarChicago Guide to Grammar, Usage, and Punctuation>LogicThe Book of Proof>RhetoricParadise Lost
>>24696103The grammar in the Trivium is Latin and Greek.
>>24696129The grammar is for whatever language you're speaking or writing.
>>24696163Which grammar is? For the Trivium the grammar is Latin and Greek. I looked up your book and it's about English. Also grammar in the past was more of a philosophical subject, with stuff like what you see in picrel.That's from this book: https://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00wattHere's another old book:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summa_Grammatica
>>24695038>caring about grammer or rhetoriclol pea brained op back at it
Is Proust worth reading? What will I get out of it?
>>24696214I haven't read Proust, but I think you can expect a whole heck of a lot of words.
She’d be regarded higher than Joyce had she been a man.
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>>24695853woolfbrosnot like this
>>24695701Flannery OConnor's great. All her short stories are good and Wise Blood is a classic. The Violent Bear It Away feels a little serious and try-hard, but I may just need to reread on that. Margaret Yourcenar's good. Clarice Lispector. Wuthering Heights is a good book, so is Emma. Women can write great books, but rarely can they maintain or elevate after a plateau. Even rarer still are the true experimental women. Gertrude Stein was also an old lesbian btw, which translates from modern femalese to eunuchess. Thus freeing her brain up for poetic play and critical thought.
>>24695701Wuthering heights is a legitimate contender for goat. Has a very universal quality to it. I recommend the bataille essay on it as additional readAusten to this day is the author I think came closest to writing perfect novels. You will breeze through them and while they probably won't rock your wolrd I guarantee you'll have a good timeFrankenstein is overrated, people especially overstate its role in creating sci-fi, but it is still a good book and especially enjoyable if you are into nothing litStein is a must read if you are interested in modernismI have only read beloved by Morrison but I really liked it, though if you found Woolf too cunty I can imagine her rubbing you the wrong way as wellThere are several female authors I love but they are from my country and idk which ones are available in translation: Elsa Morante, Elena Ferrante, Goliarda Sapienza, Cristina Campo, Dolores Prato, Anna Maria OrteseYou should still give an actual shot at Woolf, especially the waves and to the lighthouse
>>24695701>An excerpt of Mrs. Dalloway that I found is also subpar. Granted, I haven't properly read anything by her yet, but the anon that said she's the 'token woman' seems to be right - at least based on an internet search about her.You know nothing. Go read her essay "The Death of the Moth" or "On Being Ill" and then shut the fuck up.
Why did we stop liking it?
Artificial hype. Solenoid was made out to be an instant pomo classic from a writer who would no doubt get his Nobel soon, and oh everyone who reads it agrees that it's a masterpiece, there's nothing else like it, he's the greatest living Romanian writer, and you better get on the S.S. Cartarescu before it leaves without you, so you can have "discovered" him before the fame, and etc. Basically he was a totem for people who were too young to have witnessed Infinite Jest's release, and who wanted so so badly their own modern landscape-shifting classic of literature.Then the hype wore off and we realized it was just mediocre Kafka worship.
>>24695343I was trying to find this image lol. Amazing stuff.
>>24695294Discount Murnane
>>24695294Anons who liked it moved to r/truelit
Is The Wheel of Time worth reading?How self-contained are the books?Does the story really needed all those books to be told?
>>24694182Is it worth reading? It is worth reading if you are looking for a long fantasy series that doesnt deviate from the comfort zone too much while still being individual and interesting, and with a large cast of characters that grow on you over time. Otherwise, skip it.Are they self contained? It is a series my dude.Does it need that many books? Definitely not.
>>24694182No. It's a mix of LOTR and Dune with nothing that made either of those works great. Extremely bloated and low quality. It will be forgotten once gen X/millenial nostalgia dies out.
>>24694182Yes, its the greatest high fantasy series ever written. The first six books are the best part of it, however.
>>24694182>Is The Wheel of Time worth reading?I have no idea what you deem worthy. But I liked it. I started reading late in life. Wheel of time was like the third series I've ever read, and I really liked it. Now with years of reading experience under my belt, I've only come to appreciate Wheel of Time eve more.>How self-contained are the books?They are not self contained at all. It's one long series.>Does the story really needed all those books to be told?Yes. You will be lost if you skip a book.If you've been researching the series, then you have probably heard that it drags somewhere in the middle.(In the latter half) I used to think that those parts could be edited down. However, upon re-reads, I've come to the realization that the the length doesn't need to be shortened, rather more important events needed to be fleshed out. There are a few story lines that suffer, not because they're too long. But because they're too short. As the author focused too much on inconsequential banter, rather than pushing the narrative along.But I refer to things in books 8 through 11. If you're already in that deep, then chances are you enjoy the story, and are too invested to stop anyway. The dragging books aren't really "bad". Just slow.
>>24696170>upon rereadsThis series is 15 books long and you've read this multiple times? Christ.
Carolingian edition>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·>>24643783>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw>Mέγα τὸ ANE·https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg>Work in progress FAQhttps://rentry dot co/n8nrkoAll Classical languages are welcome.
>>24696100I suppose I just wasn't specific enough in my question.
>>24695999Yes, there is, but I have never met someone who learned to read starting to read day one this way.>>24696105It's called a joke
>>24696168I used to date a boy who did this and he was extremely multilingual.
>>24696100Something I think that is remarkable here is that I used the word "plain" and in your response you put "pure" in quotes even though I never used that word, but if I did, it would totally change the tone and attitude of my initial question, which would make your response make sense. Since it's not at all what I said or intended, your post instead just drips with classicist elitism and physics envy.I was just asking if there was anyone that just publishes the plain text in physical form of a 2000 year old public domain text so that students like me could get physical copies for reading practice. A version with 1/3 of the page being scholarly footnotes that costs $280 doesn't seem to fit that bill somehow. To some people the footnotes might be worth $260, but I would rather have a plain $20 paperback, if only it existed.
I will partially retract, and correct myself, because I looked at Teubner's De Bello Gallico and found it wasn't priced at asinine textbook pricing. I guess they don't rape you on every book. Even so, something like the editio minores is what I meant, i.e. a plain text rather than scholarly version.
is taschen /lit/ or /ic/? Anyway, 4 day sale
>>24696179I know someone who works at Taschen. We went to high school together. It seems like she's doing well. Good for her. I hope she gets free Taschen books. I think she does.
>>24696187keep your minutia to yourself
>>24696189I asked actually
>>24696189I can't be contained.
https://youtu.be/CFLqS1Hu1nYWho was in the wrong here?
>>24696138>video linkNo thanks. /tv/ is that way.
