>>24951481This isn't bad. Where it takes liberties it's to do things like bring the hair obsession closer, or simple shit like leaving out emphasis for the line to not run over. It's literary, but if you can't read Latin, it's not really wrong either. Good paraphrasal translation, kind of light on imitation but i suspect they're a translator more than a poet.
From the Loeb>He looks at her hair hanging down her neck in disarray, and says: “What if it were arrayed?” He gazes at her eyes gleaming like stars, he gazes upon her lips, which but to gaze on does not satisfy. He marvels at her fingers, hands, and wrists, and her arms, bare to the shoulder; and what is hid he deems still lovelier. But she flees him swifter than the fleeting breeze, nor does she stop when he calls after her: “0 nymph, O Peneus’ daughter, stay! I who pursue you am no enemy. Oh stay! So does the lamb flee from the wolf; the deer from the lion; so do doves on fluttering wing flee from the eagle; so every creature flees its foes. But love is the cause of my pursuit. Ah me! I fear that you will fall, or brambles mar your innocent limbs, and I be cause of pain to you. The region here is rough through which you hurry. Run with less speed, I pray, and hold your flight. I, too, will follow with less speed. No, stop and ask who your lover is. I am no mountain-dweller, no shepherd I, no unkempt guardian here of flocks and herds. You do not know, rash one, you do not know from whom you flee, and for that reason you do flee. Mine is the Delphian land, and Claros, Tenedos, and the realm of Patara acknowledge me as lord. Jove is my father. By me what shall be, has been, and what is are all revealed; by me the lyre responds in harmony to song. My arrow is sure of aim, but oh, one arrow, surer than my own, has wounded my heart but now so fancy free. The art of medicine is my discovery. I am called Help-Bringer throughout the world, and all the potency of herbs is given unto me. Alas, that love is curable by no herbs, and the arts which heal all others cannot heal their lord!”
>>24951557>But he ran the more swiftly, borne on the wings of love, gave her no time to rest, hung over her fleeing shoulders and breathed on the hair that streamed over her neck>Her hair was changed to leaves, her arms to branches.>: “Since you cannot be my bride, you shall at least be my tree. My hair, my lyre, my quiver shall always be entwined with you, O laurel. >>24951494I don't see her taking liberties with the hair in light of the Loeb literal translation
>>24951494 >kind of light on imitationShe actually does strive to imitate Ovid's style. One example is in alliteration, and here she uses it to echo the sound of hissing pipes>His blood shot high,>as when a pipe bursts due to faulty lead, >and through the hissing hole squirt slender streams>of water as the spray bursts through the air.
>>24951471Also on the subject of this, here is the Loeb translation>her soft sides were begirt with thin bark.
>december 2025>novel still unfinished
>published a short story collection last october>hung up on a fanfic I haven't finished in 3 yearsI am God's silliest punchline.
>>24949403The last 10% is the most difficult and longest part, anon.
>>24948774Hey man dont fret, Rome wasn't built in a day:^)
>>24950537The strongest motivation ive had after a real bad rut was listening to Robert Rodriguez's recent appearance on Rogan. His outlook on life is fascinating, and infectious. Got more writing done than I have in a long while after listening to that.https://youtu.be/KxGtxPV1xoc?si=17WdXC5wyld5tDRv
>>24948774I'm almost complete, still need a 20-30 pages but i'm feeling inspired so it'll be ready before new year's eve.It will still need a thorough editing.Although it's just a novella compilation, and not a long one either, some 190-200 pages.
How do you actually overcome post-modernism?
>>24948572i mean that zizek quote is accurate
by creating an echo chamber where you dont have to engage with it in the dialectic and pretend it dosent exist
>>24948572Just don't think about it.
>>24948572Postmodernism literally gives conservatives an excuse to act like African niggers and retvrn, (moral relativism) but they rejected it for aesthetic purposes, just because the people who invented it were faggots in France with a BBC fetish.
>>24948572The hidden irony is that this thread beautifully illustrates why post modernism is the ultimate truth. Different perspectives, lack of objectivity etc… all right here in this thread.
>saprophytic
Sapient Species, Races, and Miscellaneous Sapients EditionFAQ:>What is worldbuilding?Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"Yes, of course you can!>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.Old Thread: >>24748733
>>24949315A non-magic world would be technically science fiction even if the world contains no futuristic technology. See for example Nightfall by Isaac Asimov.
>>24878110Not op.I think we would get along.
>>24946278To prevent prior clashing, I immediately imagined these birdfolk living on floating cities like in bioshock infinite. I know you specified they're nomads but I struggle to wrap my head around how you plan for a nomadic culture broken into factions to put up a fight against the organized armies of humanity. Anyway, I think putting them in that unreachable realm solves the problem of no prior clashing, and perfectly sets up for war resulting of humanity's advancements in aviation- which lines up with the late 1800s period you mentioned. Humanity's rigid, but high firepower flying machines vs the birdfolks natural affinity for airborne combat sounds like a setup for some really cool fights. This is just what popped in my head when reading what you wrote.
>>24949430I see your point, but the mobility offered by a natural ability to fly would make it much easier for such a species to move between settlements. I planned to have them live in the mountains so far (so they can make use of the third dimension) and live off of pastoralism and hunting, since watching over livestock is much easier from the air, particularly if you can just slash wolves or similar predators to death with your claws. To offset this, their numbers will be low and pneumatized skeletons will give them a massive durability disadvantage against humans in close quarters, which makes them less suited for settling (or attacking) large settlements in the plains. Human warfare against them would mostly be tunneling to negate their maneuvering space and artillery to shell their settlements from afar, while the birdfolk would essentially be an airborne guerilla and small raider packs - think of it like the Taliban in the 80s and later on, but winged - and to make up for them lagging behind in tech, you can even add in another human faction supplying them with theirs, if we stick to the Afghanistan example. Not making humanity a monolith working in unison to cull the fowl definitely will be high on my agenda.When it comes to the earliest aviation, you shouldn't be thinking of biplanes and triplanes with fixed machine guns and dashing Red Baron types immediately, but rather aircraft like the Blériot XI, Etrich Taube or the various serial craft of the Wright company. These, alongside airships and balloons will be absolute maximum the human pilots can muster at the beginning of the story, and woefully inferior to the flight performance of the adversaries. But the point is that human tech can mature and develop, and evolution cannot, making it a race against time for the birdfolk to win or at least force a draw before the tech can mature.
>>24868365What do you need to consider when including artificial races like golems, homunculi, etc.?
Anyone else think this ai stuff is hilarious? It's a literal slave, who would have thought this would be possible? I have it rewrite things in doctor seuss meter for fun, (primary historical sources, boring patents, famous pieces of literature) then I ask it to rewrite it as a screenplay debate with psychotic amounts of alliteration. No writer in any other era of human history has a toy like this! And the psychological abuse you can inflict upon it is fantastic, it's so funny, the damn machine just wants to make you happy! I ask it to create wild programs and motion-graphics and "by your command" it tries it's best! Who would've thought something like this would be possible? I sure as shit didn't, it's so unrealistic, but what fun!
Kill yourself
>>24947788shut the fuck up, retard
>>24947478Yeah I know my cognition is disordered when I feel bad for asking it to do something
>>24949536you know i'm right, tranny.
not literature
What's the funniest book you've read?
Based On a True Story by Norm Macdonald
David Sedaris’ first couple books had me sitting there laughing out loud like some kind of homo. Don’t think any other books made me laugh like some queer while reading.
Not exactly highbrow, but there is a Wuxia webnovel called "A Will Eternal" that honestly made me laugh. And laugh hard. I'm a jaded person who hardly ever laughs.
>>24951462Don Quixote was funny. And that was a big surprise because I didnt think a book from the year 3000 BC would be funny. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas was even funnier, though. It was so over the top, so hateful, and so insane.
Everything else just seems so spooked and retarded. Like these "philosophers" can't even see past their own circumstances or analyze their own thoughts and motivations, only (poorly) justify their own particular neuroses. Has there ever been a half decent attempt at addressing, let alone refuting him?
Did Yuval Noah Harari reach some of the same conclusions regarding spooks in his book Sapiens?
>>24949436> That's not what I'm saying. Egoism is (can be) a spook too. Spooks aren't some """morally wrong""" thing that you have to avoid, they're just tools to pursue your own self interest. Using spooks is necessary thing, even.Okay, good, so we agree on this. > Could some of these spooks still reasonably be useful to me? Maybe, but I haven't found any that do.This part is personal - maybe none of what we consider respectable philosophy speaks to you and this is fine. I personally found a few that speak to me.For example, epicureans and stoics - honestly if we had more access to epicurean stuff I'd just read that, but I make do with Seneca. A significant part of it has to do with the nice written style and the spook of ancient wisdom, which a modern CBT self-help book (which will tell you pretty much the same things) does not have.I also found some parts of the New Testament enjoyable, because I feel a lot of commonality with the biblical Pilate. The Satanic Bible was also funny, but mostly in the "so bad it's good" sense (it's practically a reference example of disavowing religion while remaining spooked).> I don't believe that these spooks have very good predictive/descriptive power in determining the actions of other people.I think it depends mostly on the stakes. When their decisions become matters of life and death, or have significant impact on personal income - yeah, it's mostly going to be pure "war of all against all" and none of the ideological pretensions will matter. When the stakes are lower, like how people react to some news that does not immediately have to do with them - understanding their beliefs does have some predictive power.There's also another part of reading stuff to understand other people. Again, I don't know if this works for you, or if it's just me. I am personally uneasy with opaque, murky concepts that operate on trust. They feel capricious and ominous. Understanding what goes on under the hood and rationalizing stuff makes me feel good by itself, even when my mental model is imperfect and may never be used. For example, I've had a very fun time reading about the Second Vatican Council and how it's fractured catholics, about FSSPX and sedevacantists - even though I'm not catholic and do not deal with catholics on a daily basis. I think Weber calls this "disenchantment".
You can cleverly get into philosophy of Math because you cannot just do what you want and walk away satisfied.
>>24950827The law of noncontradiction is also a spook. I reject it.>Walk away satisfied
>>24949235spooked
What’s the male version of this? I’m tired as fuck
the ending made me cryI love Reva
The ending made me smile. I hate Reva
>>24944019Bartleby, the Scrivener.
>>24946863>Both are low quality but want high quality. They would NEVER settle for each other.Literally could not have said it any better. People would be happier dating if they were just honest with themselves and know where they stand on the quality scale.
>>24950524So then both are straight and asexual? as in, the nerdiest gayest ugliest people people I ever met were fucking each ragged in the theatre department of High School. Seems like Gay incels just don't exist.
>is arguably the single most racist author in American history>marries a Jewish womanWhat did HP Lovecraft mean by this?
>>24946601
>>24946601Jews aren't a race, that's Jewish propaganda.>>24947042Just Ashkenazi.
bump
>>24949996When you think about it, white supremacists are actually the least racist people.
what a magnificent, turboneetchud bastard. nothing but respect.
If you are an American or English, why are you not reading the wealth of world-historic literature written in your own tongue for people of your own mind?Why are you reading translations of brown-people literature (viz. French, Italian, German, Spanish, Russian) instead of the WASP corpus?
>>24951500Because our literature sucks. Who'd read Walter Scott over Alexandre Dumas? Sterne over Cervantes or Rabelais? Steinbeck over Zola? Dickens over Galdós or Balzac? Hardy over Tolstoy?>reading translationsNot everyone is an EOP.
>>24951528So then you admit that brown people are better writers than white people?
i love Thomas Fuller, i love Jeremy Taylor, and i love reading them after misty walks in the fens. but if i felt i was venerating The WASP Canon i wouldn't read a line of them. death to English culture.
Prop 1 - Substance is by nature prior to its modificationsSubstance is prior to modificications (modes), this makes both logical and ontological sense, in that substance is that which is in in itself and is conceived through itself, in that it is a self sufficient, self caused entity that cannot be contingent upon anything external. Spinoza presents his proof through definitions 3 and 5 as it logically follows, however here I will give more context. This establishes substance as the ontological foundation of reality in that God is not the divine creator of the world, but rather that god is the world, within all that exists. In such substance which is infinite, eternal and indivisible. This rejects the classic view of god (maybe why he got kicked out of the jewish church) that god sits apart from the world. In this modes, or determinations of substance, are not substances in themselves but exist within the substance, in such they are dependent on its existence. In link to Axiom 1, “Everything that is, is either in itself or in another.” (pls read the other writing on axioms for clarification) which reaffirms the ontological priority of substance over its modes, modes are in substance but substance is not in any mode. This reflects Spinoza's claim that all that exists as finite expressions of the infinite attributes of god, this undermines the notion of a transcendent deity, in that Spinoza's god is positioned as necessary to the constitution of all being.
>>24951508How does it feel to be a human skinwalker?
>>24951508Very wrong. Read Spinoza
>>24951517There is literally nothing wrong in what OP presented.>>24951508Yes, I think this is very straightforwardly reasonable from what Spinoza posits regarding substance, God and his modes. I just think there are gaps in what it means from finite modes being derived from infinite modes and the chain of causation of both and between both being indeterminate/infinite. Now, regarding Spinoza's God, I beileve there is no conception of God deserving more hatred than his and I don't mean in any logical, scientific sense (perhaps this is debatable as it reminds me of Advaita Vendata's conception, although it is more naturalized and would be less inconsistent). If Spinoza's God is true, Marquis de Sade is our only true Christ.
>match with woman on dating app>we both have literature as shared interests>she says "oh what's your favorite genre??">"I'm more into the classics">"but what's your favorite genre? Do you like sci fi?>"I like transcendentalist literature">"oh ok"Why do they ask
>>24950810Huh? They were still popular when I was single in 2023/24, and I am younger. But you are correct with most people saying they are shit and wanting to move away. I heard there are a lot of bots on them now.
>>24950597Depends how hot you are
>>24947357>>24947390>>24947404>don't know how to sustain a conversation with the opposite sex>"this is somehow women's fault">>24947454Say that, but say it in an open-ended way instead of shutting it down:>"yknow I don't tend to read a lot of Genre Fiction, but I remember digging [Discworld / Dune / Harry Potter / Narnia / LotR / Conan / Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy / whatever you've read that might fit] when I was younger. What about you, what genres do you gravitate towards? What would you recommend if I want to get into it?"You just have to carry yourself like a human being that wants to connect with another human being. Fuck's sake, the Pandemic really torpedoed the social skills of anyone born after 9/11
>>24950810 (You)>reddit spacing
>>24948012All you can really do is either lie to her in agreement or point out that her moral system is flawed. Both are undesirable.
I can't remember anything this guy said.
>>24948663His tombstone will have this quote:"SNIFFPH!"
>>24948663He looks like he's lacking basic nutrients and a balanced diet, he looks underslept, he looks pale like he hasnt been outside for months, he has bags under his eyes like hes been staring at screens all day every dayHe looks sick
>>24951053*"SNIFFPH! And so forth"
>>24948671I read the Penguin volume of his essays and thought most of it was pure garbage, but this is actually good. What do I read of Schopenhauer to get more like this, and less "life is le bad" crap?
>>24948663"I'll dig your mother from the grave and fuck her". Seriously.
What the FUCK was Stephen King thinking?
>>24950716>Why don't women ever run a train on a man?that would be cool.
>>24951353fuck off, pseud.this is just another "king bad" thread.we get these daily, *all* SK should be in ONE continent thread to limit the sprawl.
>>24951367>"sex can exist without horror, but horror usually not without sex">[calls person making fun of him for that a pseud]Projection.
>>24951345>not really.Yeah I came the first time I read Ben Drowned
>>24951304I've had a 3 some with two girls but they expected me to do all the work, fucking both while they just made out on the bed, I want 5 girls who fuck me with fury while I just lay back, like IT a real fucking train.
