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She’d be regarded higher than Joyce had she been a man.
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>>24695701
>An excerpt of Mrs. Dalloway that I found is also subpar. Granted, I haven't properly read anything by her yet, but the anon that said she's the 'token woman' seems to be right - at least based on an internet search about her.
You know nothing. Go read her essay "The Death of the Moth" or "On Being Ill" and then shut the fuck up.
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>>24696217
Read them.

The prose sucks, and the essence of her work isn't important enough to justify her inclinations for being po-faced and egoistic.
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>>24692290
Yes, she would've been more highly regarded had she been a man, because only then would she have been capable of writing good literature.
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>>24695701
Emily Bronte

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Transcendental Argument for the Existence of God thread.
>For the laws of logic to exist, they must be grounded in an omnipotent, omniscient, eternal being (God)
>Laws of logic exist
>Therefore God exists.
This applies to all matters of metaphysics, epistemology and ethics.
Discuss
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>>24696430
The rules of logic exist externally you subhuman retard. You can't redefine them based on preference without them losing their power to predict phenomena and interrogate reality.
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>>24696420
>Filling all the holes with syncretic jewstuff is obviously the correct choice, eh?
this.
assuming for the sake of argument that there is some god, deists are more likely to be correct about the nature of that god. deism is basically western monotheism without all the 60iq jewish tales that don't stand up to scrutiny and are insults to logic if anything.
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>>24696531
It's just intellectually lazy. If the point is to specifically proselytize about Christianity, say so. They have no interest in logic, because they'll ignore any error after establishing "something eternal vs. epistemic nihilism" might arise from saying that, "yeah, *and* it's the Abrahamic god, obviously. Why? Because I was inculcated to it as a child." 14 more messages of this shit, and then 10 more hydra threads can sprout, again, forever again.
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>>24694143
>I'd really love to know how atheists work around the problem of induction
kek, wait till the shabbos goy discovers that it was an atheist centuries ago who even gave him the 'problem of induction' to talk about and that it's largely atheists in contemporary philosophy of science who keep interest in the problem alive.
>b-b-b-but why aren't they going to my Baptist church and sticking fish stickers on pick-up trucks?
Because they're pragmatists who accept imperfection, not manchildren who try to shirk the realities of human limitations by running to sky daddy.
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>>24696376


You guys are utterly retarded. Nothing you're saying relates in anyway to the validity of TAG. You're just inhaling each others farts over and over again while talking about irrelevant nonsense.

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Did the authors of this piece have sleep deprivation? Why did they gloss over the argument that Israel's benefit to the US (yes, unironically) transcends that of a mere military base. The US BEGGED Israel not to involve in the Iraq war, a demand which it acquiesced to (strange, for a nation ''in control'' of the US).

Also, if it were truly possible for a foreign nation to just purchase the loyalty of a larger country’s politicians and then recover the cost by pushing legislation that funnels money back, we’d see it happening everywhere. This isn't an exclusively Jewish trait.
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>>24695091
Sorry, I couldn't hear all that over the the sound of another 10,000lbs of JDAM blasting your Hamas friends into jelly.
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>>24688778
Everyone's analysis of Israel has been misled for the past several decades because people stupidly try to understand it with materialism when the truth is much simpler and much dumber. You eventually fall into a quagmire trying to define Israel as a military outpost, a proxy state, an entity strictly in the settler-colonial framework, etc. Leftists found this out the hard way especially. These analyses don't give any answers because it's evident in the end that Israel's existence fundamentally does not benefit the Middle East or the West in any way and so there's no reason to think here is a grand strategic material plan for needing to keep it alive.

No, Israel is sustained by the West because of an utterly delusional ideology that emerged after WW2 where Israel is the culmination of 3,000 years of Western history and the country is a monument to a shared "Judeo-Christian" culture. Evangelicals genuinely believe that it's their religious duty to support Israel, non-Christian Zionists worship the country just as much because they draw some ridiculous ambiguous continuity with it and their own societies. Literally this is the only reason for why Israel is so worshipped. It's part of the post-war myth, it's the essential foundation for it -- the ancient Jewish people who were persecuted by the forces of darkness emerged victorious and finally returned to their homeland, building a state using the light of the West and its values. It's the perfect story. Get rid of Israel and you get rid of the whole myth of modern civilization. It is entirely an ideological issue, and it's so fucking absurd that most people can't even conceive that this is the root of the conflict. But it is. You have to just face it at this point.

The State of Israel itself is a sacred idol of modernity, and we sacrifice people at the altar to show our devotion. This is what it's all about.
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>>24695584
Moshe, that was the sound of one of your few competent soldiers shooting himself in the brain in his car because he got called up for reserve duty for the seventh time. Maybe if you had served even once he wouldn't have had to serve seven times? But that would make you a loser according to your culture, right? You truly are a fascinating people.

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>>24688451
Other countries including USA keep foreign lobbies in check. We just exclude Zionists from the foreign lobbying rules.
>>24688778
This is more accurate. Israel is a liability that’s why Douglass MacArthur hated the Zionists. The Zionists were the cause of the OPEC crisis, almost started a world war in the 50s with the Suez crisis, stole uranium and nuke tech from USA,
and recently dragged USA into a politically humiliating 12 war with Iran
>>24689682
Zionist spergs out and writes an unrelated post because the anon dropped the G word.
>>24692178
>These people are just Jewish mirrors of Hamas
With all due respect I’ve read a lot of Hamas charters and they never openly call for the starvation of all Israelis. And since the 80s their line is “the Zionist aggression must be met with a similar one.” Like they’re bad for sure but Israelis and their “amalek” rhetoric and their Talmudic war is worse than Hamas >>24692375
Maybe he just knows what he’s talking about.
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>>24696504
Israelis can travel the world, go to uni, meet all kinds of indigenous tribes in South America and then come home and tweet from their comfy seaside Tel Aviv appartment that Palestinian babies deserve to be brutally murdered (in Hebrew, of course) after telling non-Israelis that “the situation is really complex”.

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I simply can't get enough of Carver's sparse, minimalistic prose. He made me love the short story format that I had dismissed for so long.

I have read everything he's written and now I'm looking for writers in a similar vein. Who should I read?
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I was tasked with reading his short story dubbed the moniker of “Cathedral” for my English class. I didn’t know that is was just a short story so I ended up reading the entire collection. I enjoyed it and some of his stories really resonated with me. I ended reading his other books too.
I got to the story dubbed the moniker of “Fever” right after My wife left me, took our kid and got with a man she had assured me was “just a friend”.
Interesting timing. The short story helped me confront some feelings and thoughts I was having difficulty understanding
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back in the day i was the ultimate lish shill but really i was only trying to make people read lish's own stuff whereas no carver fan would realistically sit through something as insane. having said that, if you want that sharpness, covertness and meaningful repetition the lineage to carver is still hemingway->salinger (much better)->carver and everyone else in that lish workshop school, from amy hempbel to chuck palahniuk.

>>24694984
i like cheever a lot better desu. updike feels icky and sentimental.
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>>24694933
Amy Hempel's collected stories. More generally, you want writers in the Lishian school. He edited and taught a lot of late 20th c short fiction writers.
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>>24694933
>can't get enough
Yes he's great.

>similar vein
Everyone started trying to copy him in the 90s; there are dozens of poor imitations. But what he's doing is a lot harder than it looks.

I've only found one good short story writer (in English) who is anywhere near him and that's Lucia Berlin.

Try e.g. "Unmanageable" from <pic attached>. Very Carveresque.
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William Trevor has that similar vein of sadness and small lives. But he doesn’t have that distinctly American feel

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"Anomaly" edition

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/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQ
RESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvC

Please limit excerpts to one post.
Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.
Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.
If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.
Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.
(And maybe double-space your WIPs to allow edits if you want 'em.)

Simple guides on writing:

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>>24696445
The question that nobody ever asks is: How is Howie?
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>>24696447
What race is Howie?
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>>24695923
>if you can't, you don't, and you may as well give up now and go find something you actually want to do.

I have ADHD and I've been told this about literally every hobby I've ever tried.
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what's the difference in connotative shade between 'capricious' and 'mercurial'? I've gotten the sense that the former is closer to changing decisions on a whim whereas the latter is more based on emotions, but I'm not sure if that covers it or is even quite right
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>>24696448
He's from Ashdod.

I loved this book, I wanted to start reading more asian authors and started with Murakami but Jin Lee (at least here) fucking blows him out of the park. Any similar recommendations? Not necessarily eastern
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>>24693896
Embarrassing thread.
>>24695438
>I really liked Sputnik Sweetheart
Embarrassing post.
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>>24695771
I'm not afraid to be vulnerable, anon. It's freeing, you should peel back the mask of irony and snug superiority and try it
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>>24695771
You could have ignored the thread and let it die.
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>>24693896
Kokoro by Natsume Sōseki is a good entry point to modern japanese lit, a quiet but heavy story about guilt and loneliness that also shows japan wrestling with the shift from old-school duty to modern individuality.
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>>24695771
How sad of a life you must have to comment stuff like this
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>>24695969
I'll try these three but again, I'm not really too hung up on the oriental aspect. I just really liked Pachinko and wanted to read something similar kek

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ITT we discuss the details & literary merits of various history books.
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>>24695542
im sorry but i'm not going to read a book about war from a female author. I'm just not!
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>>24695014
Sexo.
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>>24695659
Not even Tuchman? Or CV Wedgwood?
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>>24673929
So what some of the most formidable anti Zionist figures are Jewish like finkelstein pape mate
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>>24686531
>favorite ancient histories?
I have only read Herodotus and Thucydides. Xenophon is next in queue. Considered reading some Diodorus, specifically timeframes not covered by others, but not sure if I'll actually do that.

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Where do I start with Hindu mythology, /lit/bros?
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>>24690752
I'm reading the Mahabharata now and Bhishima is an incredibly admirable guy.
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>>24695207
Yukio Bhishima
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>>24695207
which part are you at now?
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>>24690752
Indians are poop. I can't take a anything they say or do seriously.
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>>24696543
Why did low human capital right wingers start seething about Indians so much? Why were they so keen to latch on to the current thing to whine about?

You hate intelligence because you fear intelligence, you think it's a ruse, and ostensibly you also hate God because you fear intelligence.

Just admit you're an idiot.
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>tfw finally memed by mexicans into worshipping jews
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>>24696195
Doubting Thomas
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>>24696457
If Thomas can stick his fingers in Christ's wounds to verify the resurrection, I should be able to as well.
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>>24696513
I think you missed the point.
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>>24696533
How? Jesus let Thomas check, so it is allowed. Why must we all play hide & seek except the lucky few. If Jesus appears to me tonight i'd dedicate my life to him, but we both know that won't happen.

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You need to read this, it’s pure medicine for troubled souls.
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>>24696515
Keep telling yourself that.
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i've read it. no it isn't. it's like a 1000 pages of tedious religious slop.
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I love this guy so much.

As an actual contribution to the thread: anyone in interested in knowing anything about anything should also read his Confessions, urgently. It's not as exciting, but it's great to know what PURE HONESTY in prose sounds and feels like.
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>>24696527
Nah, it’s about 300 pages of interesting late Roman history, 300 pages of interesting philosophical attempts to update neo-platonism and Aristotle, and yes 300 pages of religious slop where he tries to get the Old Testament timelines to fit what he knows about the age of the earth
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>>24696510
No, thanks. I’ll stick to Tauler and Eckhart to nourish my soul.

Go here:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Random/File

Fill a /lit/-sized textbox (3,000 characters) with writing inpired by the image you get.
Attach the image to your post; if your textbox has room, include the Wikimedia link.

>I don’t like my image.
Then re-roll (there are quite a few duds), or write from another anon’s image.

Please give feedback to others doing this exercise, which is as much about versatility as creativity.
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bump4moar
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>>24673719
I'd like to say while this thread is still with us, that I've greatly admired what you've managed with this writing cue.
If you don't mind, I care to study it some,--it's wonderful. This is an example of compelling writing,--that's all I know.
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>>24689789
My dear markup-anon,

I'm really grateful. This will serve to be quite constructive for me. You're treatment of the poem is so handsome(!) and was seemingly done much more attentively.
Any flourishes and inspiration you detected in what I wrote came from me having Edgar Allan Poe in mind (in that it's macabre),--and it's mostly due to the fact that I just got finished reading Eugene Onegin.
I'm not naturally inclined to poetry,--it will be a long time before I can really get a bearing I think.

Thank you kindly!
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>>24678980
If you look closely at your opening sentence, you’ll notice that there are two different verb tenses attached to the same moment:
>I am…by late afternoon…which is when the Fat Colonel did go up.
I wrote this sentence below to more clearly illustrate the clash I mean:
—I arrive home by 5:55 PM (on the dot), which is when the mailperson arrived.—
Just pick between all past- or all present-tenses.
>I am all but suppressing a sneeze in the itchy sunlight by late afternoon
Re-order, emphasizing the length of time, also swap the “the” to a “this” (it makes the POV more personal and immediate):
“By late afternoon, I am all but suprressing a sneeze in this itchy sunlight.”
>as he spits and puff puffs
“puff-puffs”
I am not taking this hyphenation cue from Wiktionary (which does list “puff-puff,” but as a noun) but from a book published 101 years ago that uses the verb “puff-puff-puffed”—“Children of the Lighthouse” page 94, by Nora Archibald Smith, 1924.
>into the mic
“into his mic”
It’s a tiny change, but it goes to reinforce/tee-up just how possesive (the MC perceives) the military is with his sibling—who could be named Mike for all I know!

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>https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Monnaie_-_Module_C_(SC_et_Hoover),_S%C3%A9leucie_de_Pi%C3%A9rie,_S%C3%A9leucide_et_Pi%C3%A9rie,_S%C3%A9leucos_I_Nikator_(%3F)_-_btv1b85668047_(1_of_2).jpg

A numismatic bargain granted me,
By wasting waif beneath the lemon hurst:
“O friend, uncumber flesh from soul, I plea,
For in my waist, a coin you will have pursed.”
I slew the wretch in half, her stomach burst,
And snatched electrum out her twitching frame,
The bloodied disc in hand I rubbed, reversed,
Then saw a mirrored essence in the claim—
My bastard’s final alm and this were one the same.

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Went to my mate's house and found his gf's library.

Any good books in this pile?
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>>24692166
>It's 2025
>You're reading about equality and not *equity*
>B A D, C O M R A D E ! ! !
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>>24692166
Thinking Sociologically is a fine introduction to sociology. I'd recommend it for curious anons who don't start slobbering memewords when they see the word "sociology." Haven't read the rest, but looks like a pretty standard sociology courseload.
>>24692995
Liberal girls have the best pussy. You know this. I know this. It is an unfortunate but true fact of life. Many such cases
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>>24692166
Imagine inviting your gf over, and she spends all her time reading her useless assigned books
I'd just have AI sum all of them up
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>>24696196
>sociology
A set of opinions some sewing club grabbed out of thin air and is justified only using appeals to their own emotional outrage has nothing to do with science.
Pretending sociology has anything to do with science only undermines serious attempts to understand how society works.
Every "sociologists" spends almost all of their time telling everyone why the factors with most explanatory power aren't actually factors, because acknowledging them doesn't align with the religious dogma of globohomo academia and homosexual french communist values.
The entire "field" is pure evil and has never explained anything, helped anyone or produced anything.
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>>24692166
My GF likes books like The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo and The Housemaid. What book can I give her that she enjoys and is less "book for women" and more "great book overall"? Romeo and Juliet is like the typical crossover but I doubt she'll enjoy it

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What am I in for?
Worth reading? I was told its a good ant-hero novel.
Is it just people people killing each other or is there an emotional/dramatic aspect to the novel?
Let me know your thoughts anons.
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In a year, this entire board will be filled with "What am I in for?" posts. Since everyone is spending their entire day making "What am I in for?" type-posts, there will be no-one to answer what, exactly, anon is in for. At this point, the only course of action will be a permanent deletion, followed by a rash of suicides, during which many anons will look down the barrel of their shotguns inquisitively and plaintively ask "What am I in for?", before squeezing the double trigger, causing their entire face to explode.
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>>24696350
demon possessed sword drains the life from his enemies. and friends. sometimes anyone nearby, occasionally girlfriends and I think his cousin who he was fucking. he was a bit cut up by that last one.
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Edgy tryhard fagslop
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>>24696350
Very well written and sad dark fantasy story.
>>24696404
Get raped by a wild pack of niggers.

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Are the conan books worth reading? NOT the comic books, I mean the novels
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>>24696363
your needlessly pedantic correction made my pussy chaffed and sore at the prospect of reading conan, such that your post risked having the opposite of its intended effect
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>>24696372
It is of great importance you know the format of that which you seek, such as it will be easier to track down. Unless of course you also include the pastiches from other authors, but that would be getting ahead of oneself.
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>>24696348
They fucking RULE but you might be too sissy for it
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>>24696407
I suppose some specificity may have been warranted
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>>24696348
Conan is too brown to be worth reading. Who tf "tans" that hard? Lmao.

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>The Hero's Journey, Save the Cat, the three-act structure, the five-act structure, Pixar's 22 Rules.
Instant drop if I see any of this.
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>Calculated vengeance
>Rags to riches
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>>24694855
There’s worse. This was my displeasure today.
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op i listened to class on screenwriting and now i hate movies. they're just incredibly emotionally manipulative.


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