Are there any good Marxist/communist novel in the second half of the 20th century or contemporary?
>>24687919Oscar Wilde - The Soul of Man Under Socialism
>>24688161I was asking for novels in late 20th century and on, but I’ll let it count.Thank you.
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>>24687919East of Eden, grapes of wrath?Wtf even is a "Marxist - communist" novel? Is it about how the production resources belong to the sexual workers?
>>24688270What novels did e.g. the French structuralists or Althusser-school guys read. You know like communist worldview, second half of 20th century, novel. Those guys must have read stuff besides theory. Just as an example.
>>24688335you could say he's a bit of a thanatropic guy
Who was the most gifted sister?
>>24686617Emily, obviously. Her single work overshadows both of her sisters' entire careers.
>>24686617idk man, but according to my mum Anne Bronte is the worst
>>24686617Who gives a shit about that. Which one was the best fuck? -- that's the real question.
>>24686617Why did they larp as writers?Weren't there enough men to pound them or shops and restaurants to shuffle about in 19th century yorkshire?
>>24688207I'm guessing the men of that time weren't particularly good lays, so the ardous process of writing seemed like a more rewarding activity to do with their time
Why do men find female authors so trite and boring? I've known well-read dudes who don't read women as a rule just because they feel like they're being subtly nagged or something.
>>24682623Yeah, I don't see a woman ever coming up with something like Donne's "A Valediction - Forbidding Mourning" or anything by D. H. Lawrence.
>>24687761Though if I wanted to be fair, I always felt like that in literature about love written by men, the woman in question almost never matters as a person but rather as an avatar of femininity, as if it was the thing that the woman embodied to them that these men truly loved and less that one woman specifically, who were quite indistinguishable and interchangeable when discussed at all. I suspect women love much the same way, however. Maybe there is truly only one Man and one Woman that we love regardless of whoever happens to be their representative at a certain time and place.
Mfw litfags shilling Shelley despite ~90% of it having been written by Percy
>>24687887That's a nice cope, but I don't think you're going to convince anyone. You can't even convince yourself.
>>24687887just like Woolf's work being heavily edited by her cuck husband
>“Everything is perverted by this civilization, the gentlemen in suits have fouled and besmirched everything. Lithographs and etchings by old dotards like Picasso, Miro, Dali, and others, which are sold in all the stores, have turned art into a huge unclean bazaar. The money they have is not enough, they want more and more. Paintings in oil, in tempera, are not enough; drawings, watercolors, and gouaches are not enough; to make even more money they do their hackwork on stone and put it on sale in hundreds and thousands of copies. They've devalued everything, the bastards. Many of them are burdened with wives and several families, with relatives and friends; they need lots of money. Money, money and the greed for money, guides these wretched old men. Once rebels, they have turned into dirty operators. The same fate awaits the young men of today. This is why I have ceased to love art.”
>>24688124>flag bruh they are edgelords>Curtis Yarvin, JD Vance, Elon Musk, Nick Land, Lex Friedman, also: Joe Rogan, MrBeasAh, yes. That's what I imagine when I think "Liminov" - government functionaries and billionaires. >I don't get why you need examplesBecause it illustrates the distorted, emotional quality of your perception. Everyone knows Limonov was a performer, not a revolutionary. People still appreciate him as a particularly original performer, akin to Harms or Pasternak. You seethe at him so hard you equate him to Hitler and Elon Musk at the same time. That's some borderline schizo shit.
Do you think Limonov's book warrants inclusion on this list
>>24688147>bruh they are edgelordsAh yes, reductio ad absurdum, "dude it's all just a prank! Heil Hitler, dude, lmao!"Have you ever been to Russia? Have you ever seen a nazbol? Have you ever heard what they say, see what they do? No? Then why the fuck this is the hill you're willing to die upon?>Ah, yes. That's what I imagine when I think "Liminov" - government functionaries and billionaires. That's because you're out of your depth here.One of the main seethings of Limonov was the woe that he's not a haute bourgeoisie (that he was destined to be).>Everyone knows Limonov was a performer, not a revolutionary. People still appreciate him as a particularly original performer, akin to Harms or Pasternak. You seethe at him so hard you equate him to Hitler and Elon Musk at the same time.I'm not seething. In fact, I understand why amerilard would love Limonov. America is inherently spectaclist; this is why Trump was re-elected. You said it yourself - performer. And yet, he had a nazi political party that exists till this day (it's called "The Other Russia of E. V. Limonov"). It's just vibes and "bruh" and "edge" and pranks and funny unserious gay talk for amerilards, before someone serious strips you of your basic civic rights. Also, I now realize why you won't get why Limonov was what I say he was. That's because you know nothing about modern russian opposition in exile. People like Ekaterina Shulman, for example, or Yulia Navalnaya. I've seen enough political frauds to know them.
>>24688250>Ah yes, reductio ad absurdumAbsurdity and shock value are the essence of their """""""platform""""""". >Have you ever been to Russia?Yes.>Have you ever seen a nazbol?Yes. I even talked to a good number of them. >Have you ever heard what they say, see what they do?Yes. They say infinitely more than they do.>One of the main seethings of Limonov was the woe that he's not a haute bourgeoisieSort of. And he wasn't. I question your Marxist cred if the actual class reality of an individual is irrelevant to you in the light of his rhetoric.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
You might want to read Marx's own analysis of what was going on in France before gracing us with your own thinking about the haute and the petty bourgeois.
Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg>Previous:>>24668507>Thread Question:Are there any worthwhile novel novel to comic adaptations or vice versa?
>>24688179There's a sequel series, the red queen war or something. I've not read it. Similar stuff could be first law or red rising. Both have a bit of grimdark edge about them.
>>24687915It seems like your issue is not the setting but the themes. Very broad strokes here, sci-fi is commentary on humanity, and fantasy is usually stories about humans. If you like the thems that sci-fi books play with you may not find that in a lot of fantasy books.
>>24687907You should try something good instead
>>24687915Ken Liu's Dandelion Dynasty series is silkpunk, moreso after the first book and may have some of that, though it isn't technologically advanced.
>>24686736I'd say no, fairly recent release+first novel of the author. Don't know if it sold well, never saw anyone talk about it m. Second book is expected around 2026 for a specific novel festival.
I didn't think LoTR was THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME but it is unique and really fun.I jumped into A Game of Thrones recently after The Hedge Knight and I have to say.. It's not that fun. Cliffhanging, exciting and all of that, but… maybe too modest? My imagination wasn't running or enjoying what was being said and described, and the way characters spoke and behaved was too close to our world.
So when a Greek god does x, am I supposed to read it as a poetical way of saying a character doing x?>Paris giving the golden apple to Venus over Minerva and Juno is his choosing Love over Wisdom and Power>Juno helping the Greeks is them restoring the marriage between Helen and Menelaus>Ulysses saved by Minerva is him being saved by his Wisdom>Venus telling Cupid to shoot Dido is Aeneas charming her>Juno telling the Furies to hunt Turnus is his rage for his nation to be usurped by Aeneas, who gets away with it with his Charm
>>24688112I had a similar thought the first time I read The Iliad, but it just seems awkward in places. When Diomedes wounds Ares, how should we interpret that? The passages where the gods interact with one another become even harder to understand the true meaning of. It should also be considered that it wasn't unusual for gods and man to interact in Greek myth
>>24688254>When Diomedes wounds AresWisdom (since Minerva helped) in battle, a good strategy, beats brute strength
>>24688112Odysseus used wisdom to run faster and make Ajax slip and fall face first into a pile of dung?
>>24688286The wise Odysseus avoids the dung while the dumb musclehead Ajax doesn't
>>24688112Depends the book,context, author, period...
If God is eternally complete and self-sufficient, what motivation could there possibly be for creating a universe? Does creation imply a "need" or "desire" within God?
he didn't even try and it just happened. that's how powerful he is
>>24688038A world where things must consume each other in order to live, how lovely.
>>24687736The universe is eternally complete and self-sufficient
>>24688260You turn man's inventions into God's... how small of you.You gonna pin entropy on God too? What about death? How about don't eat from the fucken tree next time?
>>24687784he didnt create the universe, the universe as we know it is him
Why women are more obsessed with literature than men does?Is literature inherent a feminine hobbit?
>>24686890are you being paid to be that stupid?
>>24684227Shipping
>>24686890This>>24687711Post tits
womenfolk have less outliers but they're more cleaver on average
Most men read WW2 and Nazi related "literature" while women read Harry Potter, YA and romance novels. It is rare to meet someone who reads classics
Explain this meme
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>>24687717im a neutral pantser and the more i write of my story the more i realize the geography of this world is horrifically fucked lol
I can't be that bad...
>>24687792I'm sure you could make the text smaller, it's still somehow readable
I wrote a short story and a professional literary editor liked it, how would I make it into a comic book? Do I have to hire one guy to draw it and one guy to color it in? Is there a directory of artists for hire?
>>24688273Good luck finding an artist without corporate support. Any decent artist is either only taking work from companies or is absurdly expensive.
Only in America, Rabbi Golden, do these peasants, our mothers, get their hair dyed platinum at the age of sixty, and walk up and down Collins Avenue in Florida in pedalpushers and mink stoles—and with opinions on every subject under the sun. It isn’t their fault they were given a gift like speech—look, if cows could talk, they would say things just as idiotic. Yes, yes, maybe that’s the solution then: think of them as cows, who have been given the twin miracles of speech and mah-jongg. Why not be charitable in one’s thinking, right, Doctor?
Comfy Bible threadI'm going to start reading the OT again as I've just finished the NT for the first time. Should I resume from where I left off (I had read everything from Genesis to 1 Kings) or resume with another book from the OT?
>>24686216I like the books with Elijah and Elisha, they were like cool wizards
>>24686105>gpt is bad in september 2025Come on, anon. It's really usefull when asking about literature. Just try it once.
>>24685762get some good commentariesthere are 1000s of them>alsoplan on reading the bibble several timesafter the 4th or 5th pass the stories get boring
>>24686420Why did he do it?
>>24687618>usefull
Should I read Phaedo or The Republic?
>>24687875Yeah this is why I started reading all my books in English.
>>24688049Doesn't work either. In some Dostoevsky translations, the plural polite second person pronoun is translated as "you sirs", which definitely doesn't fit the speech of a countryside functionary
>>24687613Phaedo first. But there are some things in the Phaedo you will only be able to understand after you have read the Republic.
>>24688047I half-suspect that what the anons who make these threads are really looking for is just a discussion about either book, but are, for some reason, unable to properly formulate their desires into an opening post, so just settle with this awkward question instead.
>>24687613republic, barnes and noble edition
