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I think the art of being to the point is gone, I don't know how many people I've heard on podcasts and youtube who say the same things 5 times and a 20 or 30 minute segment can be accurately cut down to 5 or 10 minutes.
Feeling depressed and I want to break up with my gf.
Farting constantly, truly nonstop continuous farting, all day, no end in sight even now
Pro-life is left wing, pro-choice is right wing. I don't care about consensus; it doesn't mean I'm wrong, it means the consensus is.Abortion is a violation of human rights wherein you take what is scientifically classified as a human life and arbitrarily classify them as lesser than human in order to kill them freely. Planned Parenthood was founded by a eugenicist. Pro-choice advocates even argue along the lines that abortion has historically been legal, meaning that abortion is conservative and anti-abortion is progressive.
laugh hard it’s a long way to the bank
Two Weeks Left Edition>Old:>>24936611>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
>>24952582>Malazan has ridiculous levels of OP magicNot really. It's a literal D&D campaign, just with a lot of level 20 characters.
>>24952585Did you misread his post? Yours makes zero sense. What does this have to do with Malazan having nuke-level magic?
>>24952591>What does this have to do with Malazan having nuke-level magic?It has to do with Malazan having nuke-level magic at best, not "stellar scales" magic, as official D&D has no "stellar scale" magic.
>>24952577Can they be killed by men with guns?
>>24952601Merreion, Rhialto the Marvelous and the gang most definitely can't be.
When does it get “good?”
When Slothrop goes to mainland Europe. The first chapter is still one of the best though so if you didn't like it then maybe its not for you
>>24952471When you realize that all the sex stuff is Pynchon's inner demons, he's Blicero, and all that stuff about Weissman and bleaching and colonization and technology is Pynchon's discomfort with his own whiteness. There's no theme or meaning, it's just therapeutic diarrhea. It won awards because its Europhobic racism packaged as something parallel to actual literature. It's so out there that it skirts past immediate recognition for what it is by uncritical thinkers.
>>24952563You guys always have to make things into some idpol thing. There is nothing wrong with saying "hey I think those nazi guys might have been pretty bad dudes'
>>24952588>they’re bad dudes because…they just are ok?!
>>24952596Nta but my god you are retarded
What's /lit/'s opinion on banning or regulating all forms of fiction and music? Plato wanted poets banned from the Republic, Robert E. Lee distrusted fiction and novels in particular. Not an advocate for it. Rather, I'm just interested in knowing how people would even consider such a thing. As well as whether or not it would do people good in a time where we seem to be inundated with fiction.
this entire topic nowadays is basically academics coping they are the evil in society and blaming music/fiction instead of the obvious usurious tyrants dominating everything, because academia/college is one of their primary tools.I assume this was just the case in earlier periods as well, there was some obvious malevolent power structure the person was benefiting from, and they don't want to point that out so they just blame music.It's really common with tradlarpers.For music though it had a ton to do with centralization. You basically had a thing in the 17th-20th centuries when national banks were taking off where you wanted to "nationalize" as much as possible to have a stable tax base so you could take on more debt. To do this they implemented public schools (this is the open explicit motivation for public schools this is not disputable), at these schools they'd intentionally undermine folkways, traditional music, traditional dance, etc. This was basically done to destroy local identity and make everyone subservient with the state so they could get that more stable tax base by having a more fungible citizenry. Destruction of local languages which would have been the primary relay for folktales and culture was also a means of that. Fiction itself is somewhat different than music in the modern sense, but if you include just say general poets and tales people tell it applies. Any art does sort of have that binding quality, if it's a product of your culture it can bind you to it, if it's the product of another it can alienate you from your culture.
What's a good book to start with Jung? I'm already familiar with psychoanalysis.I am mainly interested in dream analysis and archetypes, but I have researched and found that Man and His Symbols was not written by him personally, but by his assistants, and is actually a simple introduction.
>>24951656>dream analysis>i, as an external, want to not only comprehend a fundamentally self-referential+intrinsically-individual & illogical part of the mind, but also to systematize an understanding/interpretation of the part of the individuals mind that is totally unmodulated and black boxed from the group/society.kekaroo. literally the dumbest most gigahonked big top clown venture in all of psychology. i would be serious $$$ that astrology has more predictive power.
>>24951995>external>systematise>unmodulated>black boxedYour assumptions are ignorant
>>24951656How did you know about Jung? I'm asking because I'm noticing a gigantic influx of Jung in /lit/ and /x/ through the last months and I want to know the source.
>>24952126Honestly I don't know, I know I first got interested in Freud because of Zizek
>>24952126same one guy probably
Stop reading enemies of human liberty such as Helvétius, Rousseau, Fichte, Hegel, Saint-Simon and de Maistre
>>24952571Ok I shall read Marx instead.
>>24952571Freedom comes from satisfying your needs and dominating nature. If you can't get a job because you have to compete with millions of immigrants, the economy is fucked because it's based on individual profit rather than helping society and the working class is more fucked than ever you're not free.
>>24952572Marx is a totalitarian thinker, read Locke, Mill and de Tocqueville and educate yourself on negative liberty, chud
>>24952579we live in totalitarian system, the dictatorship of capital
>>24952571Shut up, Anglo-Prot.
>name a more manly, masculine, virile workyou can't
>>24951297But that's a silly and shallow as fuck wordgame becase they are interchangeable. Go to hell both of you dweebs
>>24950696Gay>>24950701Incredibly masculine>>24950741I mean, yeah
>>24951112the rest of the cycle doesn't exist aside from the Odyssey, faggot
>>24951300>they are interchangeable.This is certainly not true, even if you include the sublime as a subset of the beautiful. Regardless, even if the modern usage of beautiful has expanded to include the sublime I think it’s better in discussions like this to use a finer vocabulary
the superior version
I regularly see threads on JP and Zizek but less commonly Jung and rarely Lacan.I have been reading Lacan on and off throughout the year and it has been pretty revelatory to me. If I were to try to take a stab at summarizing Lacan for anons that haven’t studied him, basically everything is fake and gay, anything not fake and gay is real, and >you are a subject beneath the fake and gay but not exactly a 1:1 product of the fake and gay. Your motif should be to recognize that to understand the real through anything fake and gay is impossible, therefore traverse the fake and gay knowing it’s fake and gay in accordance to your desire(TM). If anyone with more experience in Lacanian thought disagrees with my shit take, feel free to correct. Question: Why is Lacan not talked about as often as Freud and Jung are, or perhaps in general? Is his thought too subversive? Is it because he’s French? Pic related, worst mistake of my life
>>24952329Trying to show you something. Certain truths are damaged by being made too explicit. The poetic mind works in broken images.
>>24952343No they aren't. Symbolic imagery can be understood consciously. That's the major reason why we experience dreams or artistic impulses. The ability to understand symbolism this way is an essential part of psychic health and the major role of the ego in the psyche. Again you're just regressively romanticising the pre-conscious instead of uniting the conscious and the unconscious.
>>24952371Speech can dull a roses scent. Retreat into abstraction (away from too much joy or too much fear) and you at last grow sea-green and coldly die... Trusting your images, you assumes their relevance; mistrusting my images, I question their relevance. This is the way to understand your confusion.
>>24950506Lacan isn't a very clear thinker, much like Hegel. They both had little to no understanding of science and yet tried to "incorporate" it into their "thought"
>>24952206I like Lacan, I would even argue his material should have that effect up to a certain point obviously. Lacan was superficially the least real but substantively the most real. He was brutally honest about how much work has to be done before you change who you are. His core material is brilliant.
Behold! The brilliancy of Danielle Chelosky's genius! Terror is one of my favorites from Danielle's little book called Female Loneliness Epidemic, and it is little. It's only 4in by 7in and 0.25in thick
>>24952150I thank you for your kindness but I take it with a grain of salt, as you are gay. You will fuck anything with a penis attached to it.
>>24951991I see some wart crust on the bottom right corner. See a doctor, anon,
>>24952020Chernobyl cockNasty!
Kill all trannies
>>24952480I've read better low effort shitposts
I want to read old European myths such as Irish, Swedish or Russians. Is there any infography listing them all so I can go looking for translations? Poetry preferable
>>24951677>I want to read old European myths such as Irish, Swedish or Russians.There's a reason why when it comes to European mythology the Greeks are the ones that get all the attention. Ancient European societies were largely oral based and few of them had writing. So the only thing you'll find for other European myths like Celts, Norse, or Slavs is some heavily edited folktale written by a Christian Monk centuries after they've converted.
>>24951690>some heavily edited folktale written by a Christian MonkYes, I want that regardless
Go on wikisource, they have a shit load of fairy tale books on there.
>>24951948Not in Spanish for what I saw
Anyone else think this ai stuff is hilarious? It's a literal slave, who would have thought this would be possible? I have it rewrite things in doctor seuss meter for fun, (primary historical sources, boring patents, famous pieces of literature) then I ask it to rewrite it as a screenplay debate with psychotic amounts of alliteration. No writer in any other era of human history has a toy like this! And the psychological abuse you can inflict upon it is fantastic, it's so funny, the damn machine just wants to make you happy! I ask it to create wild programs and motion-graphics and "by your command" it tries it's best! Who would've thought something like this would be possible? I sure as shit didn't, it's so unrealistic, but what fun!
>>24949536you know i'm right, tranny.
not literature
>>24948082Hey! Leave the Predictive Text Algorithm alone!
>>24948134T. scrawny 5'5 manlet twink
>>24949227>This is no longer the caseIt very much is.
Ἁλικαρνασσόθεν edition>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·>>24877858>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw>Mέγα τὸ ANE·https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg>Work in progress FAQhttps://rentry dot co/n8nrkoAll Classical languages are welcome.
>>24951244>There is a difference between a proposition and an argument. An opinion can be backed up with anything at all, or it can be just a statement/proposition with nothing whatsoever backing it up. I asked in order to get anything whatsoever backing it up.none of this needed explanation retard
Every time I spend time focusing on extensive reading I feel like I make dramatic jumps in ability to just read a paragraph and lose a substantial amount of memorized grammar entirely, but the grammar becomes much easier to relearn. Very much a 2 steps forward, 1 step back feeling.
do you know what "fœtus" means in Latin????? it means "little human" !!!!!:) :) :)
>>24951270Audio for this:https://archive.org/details/jensen-arthur-le-francais-par-la-methode-natureHere:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf8XN5kNFkhdIS7NMcdUdxibD1UyzNFTP
https://youtu.be/G_IjB2f9o8A
>anti-natalism is irrefutab-then let me kill you
>>24952394if you keep increasing the resolution of your analysis in science, eventually you get to a point where it stops being purely material
I’m not an anti-natalist but they could reasonably respond you’ve made a false equivalence between never having existed and ceasing to exist. The primary concern of anti-natalists is basically utilitarian, it’s a calculation of suffering - if you kill me now I will suffer a lot for a little bit, people around me are also possibly going to suffer because of my death. None of that would have been the case if I was never born in the first place.“You always kill yourself too late” as Cioran says
>>24952410Next thing you're going to say is that Rupert Sheldrake is a real scientist and Bernardo Kastrup is a legitimate philosopher. Le heckin' consciousnessrino! We are... everything! God exists!
>>24952419If you prevent births you prevent happiness. Therefore from a utilitarian perspective all people should be born.
>>24952410>ifThat's a very cute "if" and all but without approaching or even being concerned by this "if" materialism managed a lot of things like the semiconductors and teh internets you are now using to shitpost here. If that's all a cope then please be a better man, stop engaging in this cope and GTFO.Materialism can be a philosophical dead end without being a "cope from depressed people". >>24952419>basically utilitarian, it’s a calculation of suffering - if you kill me now I will suffer a lotThere are means of death which were neurologically proven to be completely painless. >people around me are also possibly going to sufferAn anti-natalist can just pull a Socrates and explain to all of his close ones that the should be rejoiced that his suffering is finally over and if they are being upset by him being gone then they are selfish and evil people who produce suffering out of pure narcissism, just like anyone who reproduces.
Best writers for increasing your vocabulary?
>>24950722loanwords and agglutinates don't count
>>24952240When you possess an advanced vocabulary, pedestrian diction bores you to sleep.
>>24949924As an ESL, I'd say Huxley. Never have I had to use google so much while reading than while going through his Point Counter Point. Fucking great book though, but god damn Aldous, chill out with the high vernacular.
>>24949924There were at least 3 words in The Passenger and Stella Maris that I'd never seen in my entire life. Of course I promptly forgot them.
>>24949924?
Just ordered thisWhat am I getting into?
>>24950581>When the KJV translators openly said they weren’t inspired and that they were revising earlier English Bibles, were they wrong or just being dishonest? I have read the preface. They were wrong, not dishonest. The Assyrian, the rod of God’s anger in Isaiah 10:5-7, did not know that he was being used by God. Same goes for the KJB translators.>If the KJV can override or “fix” the Greek and Hebrew, what’s the point of Greek and Hebrew in the first place? Biblically, a translation is always to a better stage/condition/version (see 2 Sam. 3:10, Col. 1:13, Heb. 11:5). The Hebrew and Greek served their purpose at crucial moments in history (and still serve their purpose today, don’t get me wrong). Today English is the lingua franca and the expansion of English in history coincides quite nicely with the King James. >Which Textus Receptus is the inspired one, since there are multiple editions that don’t agree with each other? I didn’t claim that any Textus Receptus is inspired. I’m claiming the King James Bible is. God can use any foundation; he used sinful men to speak and pen down his word. He spoke his word through a false prophet like Balaam.>And if God only preserved His word in English, why did nobody seem to know that for the first 1,600 years of church history?Today, God’s word is preserved in English. That wasn’t always the case in history, simply because English didn’t appear on the scene until a long time after. The word of God was preserved in Hebrew and Aramaic among the Jews, then later in Greek among the New Testament churches. But even in Paul’s time, people had started messing with the word, see 2 Corinthians 2:17 (“we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God”). God does not limit himself to church history, he has his own schedule, so when “the fulness of the time was come” (Galatians 4:4) his perfect word appeared.
>>24950056>We have the originals in the received textAnd what is 'the received text', pray tell? It's just a collective term for printed editions of the Greek in the 16th and 17th centuries based on whatever manuscripts the editors had available to them, all were from the middle ages as far as I know. And those editions different from each other as well, so there is no precise definition of what's the 'received text' anyway. There is nothing special or magical about it, especially when we have much older manuscripts.
>>24949633> The ESV would probably be of interest to you given your goals.Interesting. Thanks, I'll look into it. For now I am reading the NOAB, which is basically NRSV with commentary. It's fairly ecumenical and I understand it to have a significant liberal bias, but, for better or worse, a lot of modern western culture is produced by people with a significant liberal bias, so it seems in line with my goals.
>>24950557>since there were multiple revisions and they aren’t identical?For all practical purposes they are the same translation, just with updated spellings and a few typos corrected.I've checked all the editions from 1611 until now. There's nothing you'll find there. But by all means, try.>what’s the point of Greek and Hebrew in the first place?The original language texts show how God's word has remained unchanged throughout this whole time.>Which Textus Receptus is the inspired one, since there are multiple editions that don’t agree with each other?The TR editions are closer than the manuscripts that they came from were, and the manuscripts were sufficient to preserve the original language text. The vast majority of differences between the TR editions have to do with word spellings that have zero effect on the translation, such as whether to spell "Nazareth" with a tau or a theta at the end, or various equivalent word contractions in Greek.You can find every reading the KJV translated from in the TR tradition – specifically, the Beza and Stephanus editions of the TR. This was derived from the manuscripts that were available at that time, going back to the original copies.
>>24950849>based on whatever manuscripts the editors had available to them, all were from the middle ages as far as I know.Stephanus and Beza had access to manuscripts of various ages, including Codex Regius (L) and Codex Bezae.Stephanus' 1550 TR edition listed 15 of his manuscript sources in the inner margins. But we know he also had others that he didn't list as well. He had Codex D, Codex L (Regius), Miniscules 4, 5, 6, 7 (more specifically the part of the manuscript called 2817 today), 8, 9, 38, 42 (w/ Revelation), 82, 111, 120, 237, 398, 2298. These were used in addition to Erasmus' and Colinaeus' more limited sources that they used for earlier TR editions. MSS 42, 111, and 237 were not cited in Stephanus' 1550 apparatus, but were also used by him. The Complutensian edition of 1520 (itself a printed text based on some manuscripts we no longer have) was sometimes mentioned by Stephanus as well.Some of the manuscripts Stephanus cited in his 1550 apparatus are unidentified today among known manuscripts, such as two sources that Stephanus designated with the sigla ια (designating #11), and ιϛ (designating #16) in his 1550 edition. His other 14 sources are all identified by scholarship today, yet he seems to have used at least two (i.e. those he called ια and ιϛ in 1550) that are still unidentified today. This may be his source for many readings.Beza himself added Codex Claromontanus and possibly others to his library by 1582. Though both were aware of these sources, they had little if any effect on their main text. Though they were aware of these manuscripts, they did not follow them when they differed from the established received text. They would have treated Sinaiticus the same way. Erasmus was also known to have actively rejected the few "Vaticanus" readings that he had been informed of.
