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How do you achieve enlightenment and reach Nirvana?
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>>24713766
>already enlightened or without ignorance without beginning, it is merely the mind possesed of ignorance which fails to realize this. Enlightenemnt consists of realizing the presen
So you're already enlightened but you stil need to do something to actually get enlightened, that's why advaita vedanta Is retarded
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>>24712788
Follow the eightfould path, and if you can listen to dharma talks from monks, choosen a tradition ,take refuge
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>>24715383
Poṭṭhapāda Sutta (DN 9)
>“Poṭṭhapāda, it’s as if a man were to say, ‘I’m in love with the most beautiful woman in this country,’ and other people were to say to him, ‘Well, my good man, this most beautiful woman in this country with whom you are in love: do you know if she’s of the warrior caste, the brahman caste, the merchant caste, or the laborer caste?’ and, when asked this, he would say, ‘No.’ Then they would say to him, ‘Well then, do you know her name or clan name? Whether she’s tall, short, or of medium height? Whether she’s dark, fair, or ruddy-skinned? Do you know what village or town or city she’s from?’ When asked this, he would say, ‘No.’ Then they would say to him, ‘So you’ve never known or seen the woman you’re in love with?’ When asked this, he would say, ‘Yes.’
>“So what do you think, Poṭṭhapāda? When this is the case, don’t the words of that man turn out to be unconvincing?”
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>>24713766
>Tathagatagarbha, the Gound, the innate nature of Mind, Atman,
The first there concepts are all different things with different implications and the last one isn't even buddhist and goes against the anatta doctrine, and none of those concepts Is nirvana, all of them are tools to teach nirvana which goes beyond them, nirbana Is not conciousness, the Buddha Said it explicitly, to him.thta View Is eternalism and must be overcome un order to achieve complete freedom

From: DN 1 Brahmajāla Sutta: The All-embracing Net of Views
"49. "In the fourth case, owing to what, with reference to what, are some honorable recluses and brahmins eternalists in regard to some things and non-eternalists in regard to other things, proclaiming the self and the world to be partly eternal and partly non-eternal?

"Herein, bhikkhus, recluse or a certain brahmin is a rationalist, an investigator. He declares his view — hammered out by reason, deduced from his investigations, following his own flight of thought — thus: 'That which is called "the eye," "the ear," "the nose," "the tongue," and "the body" — that self is impermanent, unstable, non-eternal, subject to change. But that which is called "mind" (citta) or "mentality" (mano) or "consciousness" (viññāṇa) — that self is permanent, stable, eternal, not subject to change, and it will remain the same just like eternity itself.'

"This, bhikkhus, is the fourth case.

50. "It is on these four grounds, bhikkhus, that those recluses and brahmins who are partial-eternalists proclaim the self and the world to be partly eternal and partly non-eternal. Whatever recluses and brahmins there may be who proclaim the self and the world to be partly eternal and partly non-eternal, all of them do so on these four grounds or on a certain one of them. Outside of these there is none.

51. "This, bhikkhus, the Tathāgata understands. And he understands: 'These standpoints, thus assumed and thus misapprehended, lead to such a future destination, to such a state in the world beyond.' He understands as well what transcends this, yet even that understanding he does not misapprehend. And because he is free from misapprehension, he has realized within himself the state of perfect peace. Having understood as they really are the origin and the passing away of feelings, their satisfaction, their unsatisfactoriness, and the escape from them, the Tathāgata, bhikkhus, is emancipated through non-clinging.
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OP thinks he can get there by trying...that's still desire

He doesn't know. lol

You need to give up. Give up what you ask? everything

how do you read the bible?
do you just read it in order as if it were a novel? or there are better ways?
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>>24716167
Obviously I don't read the books in a day. I typically read about 1-3 chapters per day.
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>>24711239
You read it as a silly, alien, decadent Jewish byproduct.
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>>24716831
Sad he fell off in his later years
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>>24711575
They're not long at all. Some of them really do drag on and on about heritage or cubits but each individual book is shorter than most short-novels you've read
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>>24711239
The way I read it and they way I learned to love it was to read it alongside real archeological studies on the areas and anthropology in the bronze and iron age Canaan, Egypt and Midian.
You'll then realized a lot of these stories are historical accounts simplified(and transformed into simple oral traditions. Figuring out these puzzles is the fun here to me.
The bible is the ultimate unreliable-author book.

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What is the opposite of being that is not just the negation of being?
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Becoming.
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Negation of the negation. /thread
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>>24715937
you will find it in the standard model
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Gnieb
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>>24715971
this just precedes being, it is not the opposite

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"Catzilla" edition

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I've ranged up and down these boards, but when I ask myself what is the most needless thread on 4chan, my mind always recurs to /wg/. There really is no point. All posters know it too. That's why it's so seldom used. There hangs about it the air of dead dreams. It becomes a perverse talisman to all the /lit/ posters who didn't quit their day job. Look at the distasteful silence that howls down these threads. It's only broken by the same two voices batting their word counts back and forth, as though any formless mass of writing is fit to print. Most writers sweat blood to reach 1000 publishable words. Your daily 1000, written to no purpose, would require a gift of unerring judgement to equal theirs. And, let's be honest, if you did possess such a gift, would 4chan be the first place you boast about it?
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chatGPT polemics against the /wg/. an unexpected swerve for the board.
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>>24715154
maybe post the first page or something and not on google
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>>24714949
post moar
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how is the start of my epilogue?

Books to teach leftists to use their words?
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imagine radicalising millions over some centrist controlled opposition goyservative
why are wingcucks so retarded
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>>24716378
It wasn't a school shooting though, it was a political assassination.
It's not ironic or poetic or schaffenfreudic or whatever, and no, I don't think people who believe in the right to bear arms should be publicly assassinated.
>>24716369
>there‘s something about the manner in which leftoids go about this which ruins the fact that this was at first a funny instance of terminal American political brainrot
It probably has something to do with him being a milequist cuckservative, and every gay race communist on the planet acting like they just took out Adolf Hitler.
Normalfags are starting to notice that leftists actively want them dead in real life.
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>>24716683
100% of the people celebrating his death are leftytroons, so it's a pretty safe bet it was a leftytroon.
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>>24717115
>You've seen bluehaired twitter trannies call this "tone policing" and laughed because you didn't think that existed, haven't you

I didn't know the very syntagma of "tone policing" until you have mentioned it right now. I don't use twitter, I dont use instagram, nor facebook, I just use youtube and 4chan. But good try, you are showing that you are a chronically online twitter user.

>MY TEACHER, MY PRIEST

I guest you are doing some sort of psychoanalysis by which the fact that I'm pointing out your smug wojak condescending tone and compare it to a priest means that I've been fingered by a priest or something. Not the case, but, again, good try, the FBI might hire you, maybe you even catch who the shooter is.
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>>24717115
>We accept all kinds of limitations on all kinds of rights all the time for the public good.

I know it's the case, but that's loosely related to the matter. Online leftists' main argument revolves around the fact that, as Charlie Kirk died because of something whose implications included the death of innocent people, implications he was are of, his supporters have to swallow it up and not complain nor mourn his death. That's, again, stupid. The right to use your car is very tightened by law, yet everyone would understand that someone dying in a car accident is a tragedy even if he publicly acknowledged car accidents as a collateral effect to accept if we want to make use of our right. From Charlie Kirk's perspective, I repeat, from Charlie Kirk's perspective, it was the same with guns, as he condemned school shootings but thought that the right to defend oneself is more important, but that does not mean that he considered school shootings a necessary consequence to ignore, for him it was a contingent consequence like a car accident that we have to accept and work in order to reduce them to the minimal extent, and this is the case regardless of how limited or unlimited gun ownership rights are in the US. And I stress so much "for him" because, since you are fallacious retards, you are not judging the criminal act itself but its victim and his way of thinking, and if you are going to do that, at least have a minimal trace of dignity by telling apart what was the a priori right for him and what were the undesired collateral consequences to tackle. The key mistake and core of you leftists' moral disorientation is that you don't differentiate between intentions and consequences, most of you are vulgar, crass consequentialists who can't even conceive deontologism, that, perhaps, it's respectable to think there have to be some fundamental rights and allow evil as a collateral consequence to coexist with a greater good, without judging that allowance as evil itself.

But I understand, let's regulate society YOUR way, let's give everyone the same treatment, let's equate intentions with consequences for all of us. The only reasonable thing to do, then, is to obliterate planet Earth to oblivion, to erase humanity so that we maximize safety over freedom by accepting the total limitation of rights, as freedom always leaves room for injustice and violence to happen. Who else to blame apart from humanity for commiting the irredeemable sin of living and letting us to act the wrong way? Since advocating for gun ownership and letting the possibility to misuse them is a sin whose deadly punishment must be cheered and celebrated by the masses (or at least not mourned), let's ban guns, of course, but not only guns but also cars, eating, and breathing, as all of those things allow wrongdoers to incur wrongdoing. The highest "public good", as you call it, is the total annihilation of mankind.

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Books that embody the feeling of sniffing smelly women socks?
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>>24717188
I am going to find you and pull my cock out and slit a giant hole in your feet and fuck it and knock your feet up, nonny~ I am raping my goonstick just thinking about it~ I need nonny cock to splurt just from how fucking disgusting and depraved you are. I want you to bleed out and get ulcers and have them rupture in a cascade of pus and then force you to drink gasoline and jump on your stomach until you vomit it and light the vomit on fire whit a lighter so you burn from the outside in, nonny~
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>>24717211
Uhmm....
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>>24717218
*does this to you*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LjVwHnaW-s

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>heidegger thought all this was shit because it doesn't "reveal the stone"
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>>24716959
read Coomaraswamy
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>>24716959
Even in beautiful art, the beauty is just one moment in the interaction between consciousness and matter that makes art the most important thing in the world.
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>>24716876
Heidegger hated western civilization.
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>>24716949
>>24716959
Art isn't utilitarian.
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>>24716889
>The same year, Teresa Benedicta a Cruce and her biological sister Rosa, by then also a convert and an extern (tertiary of the order, who would handle the community's needs outside the monastery), were sent to the Carmelite monastery in Echt, Netherlands, for their safety. In response to the pastoral letter from the Dutch bishops on 26 July 1942, in which they made the treatment of the Jews by the Nazis a central theme, all baptized Catholics of Jewish origin (according to police reports, 244 people) were arrested by the Gestapo on the following Sunday, 2 August 1942.
WTFFF???? /pol/ told me nazis only killed rich jewish people!!!!! wtf they did kill this woman for???

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Did I get filtered or is this one weak?
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>>24714869
Based on this extremely specific criticism I take it the weird matriarchal orgies are historically accurate?
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>>24714869
>when someone from south Canaan shows up and preaches against the bull worship.
He charges the bull with a knife and dies, which is hilarious. How can you be mad about that?
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Is her Alexander trilogy good? I’ve been considering reading it because I’m on a historical fiction set in antiquity kick, but I’m worried it’ll just be purely about Alexander getting dicked down. I’m okay with a little gay shit, but I’m not interested in a full blown gay romance trilogy.
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>>24716296
Renault's men are poon hounds and hilariously chauvinistic, no worries
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>>24716296
>"Alexander trilogy"
>entire third book is an epilogue because he's dead
Absolute madlady

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To Kill A Mockingbird should be banned from all public schools.
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>>24713240
Under the torture of the rack could you not draw that kind of confession out of me. What compels people to tell on themselves like this?
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>>24713165
And to mock rape victims, to say that white women want to be raped. This is a huge constant in the left. The only equivalent on the right is Ayn Rand.
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>>24714341
The true story that inspires the book: victim was white with a messed up arm and the people who killed him were black.
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>>24714042
By "Frank's murder" do you mean "the murder that Frank committed" or do you mean "the murder of Leo Frank"?
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>>24713491
Anyone who has actually read To Kill A Mockingbird will tell you that it's boring and bland. There's nothing there to criticize or provoke in it. There's barely any artfulness to it at all, same with Fahrenheit 451. The Outsiders has 50x more soul and art than both of those books combined and it's a young adult novel written by a teenage girl.

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Who is your favorite writer who did not with the Nobel Prize for Literature?
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>>24716720
This. Pulitzer sure but Nobel peace prize? No way Jose.
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>>24716998
we're talking about the nobel prize for literature not peace.
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>>24715190
Shakespeare
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Sartre
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>>24715190
Fun question. I think either James or Borges.
Just noticed Joyce never won one, so Joyce. Suppose the really interesting modernists didn't start getting nobels until the 1940s
Waiting out captcha: Nabokov didn't win either?
I'll stick w/ Joyce. Actually teaching Portrait in an undergrad seminar later this semester and really looking forward to it

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Does anyone else find the works of the Gawain/Pearl poet to be deeply moving? I'm not a Christian but his characters feel very realistic and heartfelt.
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I've read Tolkien's translations of those poems plus Sir Orfeo. Pearl is a legitimately beautiful poem, especially once you think about its conceit: a daughter who died as an infant returning to comfort her father by showing him a vision of Heaven, where she is.

Not to mention the poetic description of the heavenly Jerusalem is incredible.
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>>24714975
>>24714998
I personally found the prose to be excessive for my taste. I also think I read the Tolkien translation.

IMO I much prefer the older french romances of the likes if Chretian de Troyes from the 1100's. Stuff like Yvain and Lancelot. They are more terse but still lively, it struck a more enjoyable balance between plain speak and high words i believe. But to be fair they are not directly comparable, Gawain is much more of a poem while Chretien's work is more of a narrative.
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I like sir gawain a lot, haven't read the other works. Have you seen the green knight movie? I find it very interesting

The most tragic figure of the 21st century
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>>24716663
>the Person of Jesus Christ i
Kind of the whole problem with this isn't it? kek
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>>24714573
>>24714648
>>24714738
>>24714895
>>24714977
Please check out https://byzantinus.net/ some time, it's a textboard centered around the humanities and you two have an spirit that would very fitting for the site's purpose. It's invite-only but you can get an access code through a faucet right now.
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>>24716741
>It's invite-only but you can get an access code through a faucet right now.
who do you do this and who owns/runs it?
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>>24716705
That’s not it. His thesis, even if it is just restating Hegel, is the main doctrine guiding the post-Cold War West.
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>>24717174
>is the main doctrine guiding the post-Cold War West.
no its not. thats the low IQ think tank take. history ended in the first half of the 19th century. accept it.

This is a really great piece of fiction.
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Is this the one where a vampire eats a girl's period blood or something? I've been meaning to read some Anne Rice but I've heard so many conflicting opinions about her. I've definitely noticed that this particular book has a cult following so my interest is piqued.
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>>24716943
i'd rather not spoil anything but yes, late in the novel lestat licks up a girl's period blood. that sounds extremely macabre, if'/when you read the novel you will see there is a reason for this. might help to read other vampire novels before to lay the groundwork for the tragedy vampires experience. memnoch is 95% about the narrators story, 5% about vampire existentialism.

i think rice was a fantastic writer until her later years when she published a bunch of slop. i strongly suspect her son christopher is responsible for the slop since he's half the writer she was. probably published under her name because that's where the money is.
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>>24717095
>i strongly suspect her son christopher is responsible for the slop since he's half the writer she was. probably published under her name because that's where the money is.
This is actually a minor plot point in her novel Belinda. Which makes it all the more intriguing if it's true.
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>>24716719
Read a few Rice books and remember enjoying them but vampires in media were becoming popular so I stopped.
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>>24717192
you should never let the popularity of something determine whether a thing is worth engaging/reading with or not. popularity is entirely uncorrelated with quality.
the popular vampire novels you are undoubtedly referring to are trash. rice was the popular vampire author, but stopped writing about them in 2001 - 2002

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>it's ok to have a gay phase as long as you grow up out of it
>but if you don't you, you will end up bitter, poor and diseased
wow

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a lot of the hate for trans people comes from how much they are pushed. this includes in publishing. trans artists, of any kind, seem to be categorically mediocre and shallow. trans-focused media also always seems to be a surface level, zero depth reflection of the trans experience. so the things getting pushed are self-absorbed and uninteresting fluff at best and narcissistic and actively damaging slop at worst

but other kinds of lgbtq people have made incredible art in the past. sappho, woolf, proust, dickinson, and even plato are part of that group. so it doesn't seem like having an alternative lifestyle bars you from being literary

so what is the problem? are trans people capable of producing art, and has there been any genuine art created by trans people that has stood the test of time? is the modern trans author a phenomenon brought by a problem with the publishing industry, or the nature of today's trans socialization, or some other issue? or are trans people categorically flawed in a way that prevents them from producing real art - and if so, what is this flaw?

i'm genuinely curious about your viewpoints on this because it seems like all trans writers are relatively modern and solely focused on identity, which is not something that you often see other gay people do
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>>24716734
>the right to speak for historical persons who in fact would find the movement alien and revolting
NTA but omg are you one of those fags who wants to get rid of the T in LGBT? Omg lmao this is like seeing an endangered animal out in the wild rubbing up against the hunter's ammo box because he thinks if he loves it enough it won't hurt him
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>>24717112
he probably said this before the CIA existed.
orson welles said something similar
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>>24717120
christ but you're stupid and self-absorbed. no, i don't want anything to do with any subset of you freaks.
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>>24717158
>I'm not a fag! I'M NOT! I JUST TALK LIKE ONE OKAY YOU'RE ALL FREAKS
Kek even if you accept yourself they'll never accept you and you know it <3
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>>24717160
i am "them" you fucking retard.


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