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Skip one of these and you turn out a complete retard.
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>>24696129
The grammar is for whatever language you're speaking or writing.
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>>24696163
Which grammar is? For the Trivium the grammar is Latin and Greek. I looked up your book and it's about English. Also grammar in the past was more of a philosophical subject, with stuff like what you see in picrel.

That's from this book: https://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00watt

Here's another old book:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summa_Grammatica
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>>24695038
>caring about grammer or rhetoric
lol pea brained op back at it
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As a general rule avoid anything published in the last century.

¤Institutes of Grammar by Priscian of Caesarea

¤Summa Grammatica by Roger Bacon

¤Summa Logicae by William of Ockham

¤Logic or the Right Use of Reason in the Inquiry After Truth by Isaac Watts

¤Port-Royal Logic by Antoine Arnauld and Pierre Nicole

¤The Organon by Aristotle

¤Rhetoric by Aristotle

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>>24695062
good for you! time to work on that orfografy next

Carolingian edition

>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·
>>24643783

>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·
https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw

>Mέγα τὸ ANE·
https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg

>Work in progress FAQ
https://rentry dot co/n8nrko

All Classical languages are welcome.
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>>24696168
I used to date a boy who did this and he was extremely multilingual.
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Something I think that is remarkable here is that I used the word "plain" and in your response you put "pure" in quotes even though I never used that word, but if I did, it would totally change the tone and attitude of my initial question, which would make your response make sense. Since it's not at all what I said or intended, your post instead just drips with classicist elitism and physics envy.

I was just asking if there was anyone that just publishes the plain text in physical form of a 2000 year old public domain text so that students like me could get physical copies for reading practice. A version with 1/3 of the page being scholarly footnotes that costs $280 doesn't seem to fit that bill somehow.

To some people the footnotes might be worth $260, but I would rather have a plain $20 paperback, if only it existed.
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I will partially retract, and correct myself, because I looked at Teubner's De Bello Gallico and found it wasn't priced at asinine textbook pricing. I guess they don't rape you on every book. Even so, something like the editio minores is what I meant, i.e. a plain text rather than scholarly version.
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>>24696193
It's called scholarly version because modern scholars can only read with heavy annotation
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>>24696186
ngmi

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Is The Wheel of Time worth reading?
How self-contained are the books?
Does the story really needed all those books to be told?
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>>24694182
No. It's a mix of LOTR and Dune with nothing that made either of those works great. Extremely bloated and low quality. It will be forgotten once gen X/millenial nostalgia dies out.
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>>24694182
Yes, its the greatest high fantasy series ever written. The first six books are the best part of it, however.
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>>24694182
>Is The Wheel of Time worth reading?
I have no idea what you deem worthy. But I liked it. I started reading late in life. Wheel of time was like the third series I've ever read, and I really liked it. Now with years of reading experience under my belt, I've only come to appreciate Wheel of Time eve more.

>How self-contained are the books?
They are not self contained at all. It's one long series.

>Does the story really needed all those books to be told?
Yes. You will be lost if you skip a book.
If you've been researching the series, then you have probably heard that it drags somewhere in the middle.(In the latter half) I used to think that those parts could be edited down. However, upon re-reads, I've come to the realization that the the length doesn't need to be shortened, rather more important events needed to be fleshed out. There are a few story lines that suffer, not because they're too long. But because they're too short. As the author focused too much on inconsequential banter, rather than pushing the narrative along.

But I refer to things in books 8 through 11. If you're already in that deep, then chances are you enjoy the story, and are too invested to stop anyway. The dragging books aren't really "bad". Just slow.
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>>24696170
>upon rereads
This series is 15 books long and you've read this multiple times? Christ.
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>>24695953
>It's a mix of LOTR and Dune
The only thing like lotr in wheel of time id book 1 and the most dune esq thing are the Aiel.

Yep it's kino
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Do these even sell? I have trouble believing it.
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Are all detective series slop operas?
My detective experience begins with Miss Marple and ends with Kenzie & Gennaro series by Dennis Lehane (which I read 10 years ago and quite liked), with nothing in between.

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Can an 110 IQ write a great novel? Is an unremarkable intellect capable of literary greatness?
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>>24695812
If novel is really your measure of things then even an 70iq can do it
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IQ doesn't matter.
IQ is effectively a measure of your ability to solve logic games.
I have a measured IQ of 131 and I'm a fucking NEET that can't drive a car or hold a job because I sperg out.
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>>24696114
Pretty much. The IQ meme is heavily pushed by arrogant retards. I've not known anyone who put a lot of stock into IQ who wasn't also insufferable.
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>>24695812
>Can an 110 IQ write a great novel?
Yes. In fact, any novelist with an IQ significantly higher than that is well-advised to imitate someone with a 110 IQ.
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If I were to explain as succinctly as I can the failure of contemporary poetry, I can do no better than to post this meme.
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>>24696480
No, that’s not how money laundering works. Only people who don’t understand art or money laundering think that. Art can be an asset class for investors, but so can anything
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>>24696480
One of the most reddit, STEM-bugman, braindead opinions I see out there.

Asset speculation, sure, that's a respectable thing to claim.
>le it's all fake and used for crime
fuck off. yes I'm triggered
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>>24695982
Redditsoy spacing is too annoying for the 4chud as he sits around solving CAPTCHAs all day like a good little soulless spergborg for gookmoot.
Life's mysteries...
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>>24696304
What the fuck are you yabbering about, schizo?
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>>24696551
I'm saying everything is surface vanity and pomp and pose my love.

meereenese throne edition

ASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_Page
Blog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/
Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/
So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/
Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/
SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdy
General search: http://searcherr.work/
TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chapters

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>>24696244
Have no idea how people can even say this when we know when Jon and Dany were born. Jon was born after the sack, and Dany 8-9 months after him.
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>>24695148
"All will be Fine Todayne"
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Um guys, I think GRRM might be the Prologue POV in Winds… he’s going to die.
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FAeGon BlackedFyre. He loves fat black masts.
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>At the edge of the wolfswood, Bran turned in his basket for one last glimpse of the castle that had been his life. Wisps of smoke still rose into the grey sky, but no more than might have risen from Winterfell's chimneys on a cold autumn afternoon. Soot stains marked some of the arrow loops, and here and there a crack or a missing merlon could be seen in the curtain wall, but it seemed little enough from this distance. Beyond, the tops of the keeps and towers still stood as they had for hundreds of years, and it was hard to tell that the castle had been sacked and burned at all. The stone is strong, Bran told himself, the roots of the trees go deep, and under the ground the Kings of Winter sit their thrones. So long as those remained, Winterfell remained. It was not dead, just broken. Like me, he thought. I'm not dead either.

Alright Bran, you’re a pretty cool guy. You can be king I guess.

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She’d be regarded higher than Joyce had she been a man.
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>>24695701
>An excerpt of Mrs. Dalloway that I found is also subpar. Granted, I haven't properly read anything by her yet, but the anon that said she's the 'token woman' seems to be right - at least based on an internet search about her.
You know nothing. Go read her essay "The Death of the Moth" or "On Being Ill" and then shut the fuck up.
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>>24696217
Read them.

The prose sucks, and the essence of her work isn't important enough to justify her inclinations for being po-faced and egoistic.
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>>24692290
Yes, she would've been more highly regarded had she been a man, because only then would she have been capable of writing good literature.
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>>24695701
Emily Bronte

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I simply can't get enough of Carver's sparse, minimalistic prose. He made me love the short story format that I had dismissed for so long.

I have read everything he's written and now I'm looking for writers in a similar vein. Who should I read?
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I was tasked with reading his short story dubbed the moniker of “Cathedral” for my English class. I didn’t know that is was just a short story so I ended up reading the entire collection. I enjoyed it and some of his stories really resonated with me. I ended reading his other books too.
I got to the story dubbed the moniker of “Fever” right after My wife left me, took our kid and got with a man she had assured me was “just a friend”.
Interesting timing. The short story helped me confront some feelings and thoughts I was having difficulty understanding
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back in the day i was the ultimate lish shill but really i was only trying to make people read lish's own stuff whereas no carver fan would realistically sit through something as insane. having said that, if you want that sharpness, covertness and meaningful repetition the lineage to carver is still hemingway->salinger (much better)->carver and everyone else in that lish workshop school, from amy hempbel to chuck palahniuk.

>>24694984
i like cheever a lot better desu. updike feels icky and sentimental.
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>>24694933
Amy Hempel's collected stories. More generally, you want writers in the Lishian school. He edited and taught a lot of late 20th c short fiction writers.
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>>24694933
>can't get enough
Yes he's great.

>similar vein
Everyone started trying to copy him in the 90s; there are dozens of poor imitations. But what he's doing is a lot harder than it looks.

I've only found one good short story writer (in English) who is anywhere near him and that's Lucia Berlin.

Try e.g. "Unmanageable" from <pic attached>. Very Carveresque.
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William Trevor has that similar vein of sadness and small lives. But he doesn’t have that distinctly American feel

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"Anomaly" edition

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/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQ
RESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvC

Please limit excerpts to one post.
Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.
Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.
If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.
Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.
(And maybe double-space your WIPs to allow edits if you want 'em.)

Simple guides on writing:

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>>24696445
The question that nobody ever asks is: How is Howie?
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>>24696447
What race is Howie?
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>>24695923
>if you can't, you don't, and you may as well give up now and go find something you actually want to do.

I have ADHD and I've been told this about literally every hobby I've ever tried.
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what's the difference in connotative shade between 'capricious' and 'mercurial'? I've gotten the sense that the former is closer to changing decisions on a whim whereas the latter is more based on emotions, but I'm not sure if that covers it or is even quite right
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>>24696448
He's from Ashdod.

I loved this book, I wanted to start reading more asian authors and started with Murakami but Jin Lee (at least here) fucking blows him out of the park. Any similar recommendations? Not necessarily eastern
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>>24693896
Embarrassing thread.
>>24695438
>I really liked Sputnik Sweetheart
Embarrassing post.
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>>24695771
I'm not afraid to be vulnerable, anon. It's freeing, you should peel back the mask of irony and snug superiority and try it
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>>24695771
You could have ignored the thread and let it die.
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>>24693896
Kokoro by Natsume Sōseki is a good entry point to modern japanese lit, a quiet but heavy story about guilt and loneliness that also shows japan wrestling with the shift from old-school duty to modern individuality.
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>>24695771
How sad of a life you must have to comment stuff like this
>>24695438
>>24695547
>>24695969
I'll try these three but again, I'm not really too hung up on the oriental aspect. I just really liked Pachinko and wanted to read something similar kek

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ITT we discuss the details & literary merits of various history books.
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>>24695542
im sorry but i'm not going to read a book about war from a female author. I'm just not!
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>>24695014
Sexo.
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>>24695659
Not even Tuchman? Or CV Wedgwood?
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>>24673929
So what some of the most formidable anti Zionist figures are Jewish like finkelstein pape mate
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>>24686531
>favorite ancient histories?
I have only read Herodotus and Thucydides. Xenophon is next in queue. Considered reading some Diodorus, specifically timeframes not covered by others, but not sure if I'll actually do that.

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Where do I start with Hindu mythology, /lit/bros?
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>>24690752
I'm reading the Mahabharata now and Bhishima is an incredibly admirable guy.
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>>24695207
Yukio Bhishima
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>>24695207
which part are you at now?
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>>24690752
Indians are poop. I can't take a anything they say or do seriously.
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>>24696543
Why did low human capital right wingers start seething about Indians so much? Why were they so keen to latch on to the current thing to whine about?

Go here:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Random/File

Fill a /lit/-sized textbox (3,000 characters) with writing inpired by the image you get.
Attach the image to your post; if your textbox has room, include the Wikimedia link.

>I don’t like my image.
Then re-roll (there are quite a few duds), or write from another anon’s image.

Please give feedback to others doing this exercise, which is as much about versatility as creativity.
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bump4moar
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>>24673719
I'd like to say while this thread is still with us, that I've greatly admired what you've managed with this writing cue.
If you don't mind, I care to study it some,--it's wonderful. This is an example of compelling writing,--that's all I know.
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>>24689789
My dear markup-anon,

I'm really grateful. This will serve to be quite constructive for me. You're treatment of the poem is so handsome(!) and was seemingly done much more attentively.
Any flourishes and inspiration you detected in what I wrote came from me having Edgar Allan Poe in mind (in that it's macabre),--and it's mostly due to the fact that I just got finished reading Eugene Onegin.
I'm not naturally inclined to poetry,--it will be a long time before I can really get a bearing I think.

Thank you kindly!
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>>24678980
If you look closely at your opening sentence, you’ll notice that there are two different verb tenses attached to the same moment:
>I am…by late afternoon…which is when the Fat Colonel did go up.
I wrote this sentence below to more clearly illustrate the clash I mean:
—I arrive home by 5:55 PM (on the dot), which is when the mailperson arrived.—
Just pick between all past- or all present-tenses.
>I am all but suppressing a sneeze in the itchy sunlight by late afternoon
Re-order, emphasizing the length of time, also swap the “the” to a “this” (it makes the POV more personal and immediate):
“By late afternoon, I am all but suprressing a sneeze in this itchy sunlight.”
>as he spits and puff puffs
“puff-puffs”
I am not taking this hyphenation cue from Wiktionary (which does list “puff-puff,” but as a noun) but from a book published 101 years ago that uses the verb “puff-puff-puffed”—“Children of the Lighthouse” page 94, by Nora Archibald Smith, 1924.
>into the mic
“into his mic”
It’s a tiny change, but it goes to reinforce/tee-up just how possesive (the MC perceives) the military is with his sibling—who could be named Mike for all I know!

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A numismatic bargain granted me,
By wasting waif beneath the lemon hurst:
“O friend, uncumber flesh from soul, I plea,
For in my waist, a coin you will have pursed.”
I slew the wretch in half, her stomach burst,
And snatched electrum out her twitching frame,
The bloodied disc in hand I rubbed, reversed,
Then saw a mirrored essence in the claim—
My bastard’s final alm and this were one the same.

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What am I in for?
Worth reading? I was told its a good ant-hero novel.
Is it just people people killing each other or is there an emotional/dramatic aspect to the novel?
Let me know your thoughts anons.
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In a year, this entire board will be filled with "What am I in for?" posts. Since everyone is spending their entire day making "What am I in for?" type-posts, there will be no-one to answer what, exactly, anon is in for. At this point, the only course of action will be a permanent deletion, followed by a rash of suicides, during which many anons will look down the barrel of their shotguns inquisitively and plaintively ask "What am I in for?", before squeezing the double trigger, causing their entire face to explode.
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>>24696350
demon possessed sword drains the life from his enemies. and friends. sometimes anyone nearby, occasionally girlfriends and I think his cousin who he was fucking. he was a bit cut up by that last one.
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Edgy tryhard fagslop
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>>24696350
Very well written and sad dark fantasy story.
>>24696404
Get raped by a wild pack of niggers.


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