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Desperately reconcile with your irredeemable faith, sheep.
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>>24949465
See
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>>24948717
Ans thankfully will be replaced with Islam In sha Allah and atheists and LGBT will be silenced or put to death
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>>24949510
Thanks for the coalpost
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>>24949589
Im right thou
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>>24949645
You're not, achmed

>The Enlightenment was... le BAD?
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>>24949094
>>so yeah we should assume the universe revolves around the earth
why is thinking this.... LE BAD, soiencetard?
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>>24948256
>le Enlightenment is le bad
>but let's just unquestioningly hold to its premises that freedom is power/potential, wholly discursive reason, truth as constraint, concrete particulars are more fundamental, nominalism/individualism, and the resulting voluntarism that comes with these assumptions.
>Hence, we must be terrified of le riefication which is le oppression because le freedom is potency, so the actualization of the intellect by truth is le bad. Truth is le violence.

The irony is the misology and relativism this triggers just reduces in everything coming down to power relations. Reason can no longer adjudicate and so all that is left is the violence of Hitler, Stalin, and the liberal states against the Third World. The only thing that papered this over was zombie like continuation of Christian ethical and teleological assumptions. The spiritual logic of critical theory and post-modernism both terminate in fascism, whether they like it or not.

Dostoevsky saw further than most here.
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>>24949678
>>but let's just unquestioningly hold to its premises that freedom is power/potential, wholly discursive reason, truth as constraint, concrete particulars are more fundamental, nominalism/individualism, and the resulting voluntarism that comes with these assumptions.
in english, doc.
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>>24949089
>How does reason emerge from primitive god worship?
Grasping the nature of universals, something no animal is capable of.
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>>24949549
Your mother's mouth revolves around my dick

>>24949674
Not an atheist

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I like this book.
I think you should read it.
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>>24949375
Interesting cover and title. Anything you can tell us to sell on it, for those who have never heard about it? A quote you liked?
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So Carlyle is making fun of Hegel? This is like Candide but lampooning Hegelians instead?
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>>24949375
Carlyle mogs all the pretentious meta authors from the 20th century.
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>>24949451
It's not long, it's dense.
Meaning that it feels like it actively written to be hard to binge without feeling lost.
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>>24949630
It's written from the POV of an editor who himself is reviewing/publishing a fictional book titled the "Philosophy of Clothes".
At risk of being overly reductive an inferred theme that pervades the book is the idea of the pretentious and the authentic. (much like the wearing of clothes)
It effectively challenges Shakespeare's "what's in a name?".
The book itself can be both read ironically or seriously or perhaps both at once much like how the editor expounds upon the book he is investigating.
Part of the story involves the editor looking into the author's biography to try to make sense of it all.
There are several quotes that stuck with me and likely more that fell out of my head as there was a lot stuffed into the book.
The one that comes to mind at the moment is.
>That the Thought-forms, Space and Time, wherein, once for all, we are sent into this Earth to live, should condition and determine our whole Practical reasonings, conceptions, and imagines or imaginings—seems altogether fit, just, and unavoidable.
>But that they should, furthermore, usurp such sway over pure spiritual Meditation, and blind us to the wonder everywhere lying close on us, seems nowise so.
>Admit Space and Time to their due rank as Forms of Thought; nay even, if thou wilt, to their quite undue rank of Realities: and consider, then, with thyself how their thin disguises hide from us the brightest God-effulgences!
>Thus, were it not miraculous, could I stretch forth my hand and clutch the Sun?
>Yet thou seest me daily stretch forth my hand and therewith clutch many a thing, and swing it hither and thither.
>Art thou a grown baby, then, to fancy that the Miracle lies in miles of distance, or in pounds avoirdupois of weight; and not to see that the true inexplicable God-revealing Miracle lies in this, that I can stretch forth my hand at all; that I have free Force to clutch aught therewith?
>Innumerable other of this sort are the deceptions, and wonder-hiding stupefactions, which Space practises on us.

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What magazines are /lit/?
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>>24949491
>not a burger
doesn't count
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>>24949435
Kek. Binked ya, huh? No worries. The anons who want to read will follow my advice and have the opportunity to learn about new, interesting writers.
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>>24948737
>Harper's
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harpers is based as fuck, it generates so much seethe
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>>24949618
>still won't name any magazines
you're full of shit

Unwilling Eldritch Horror of Slop Edition

Stubbed >>24943213

>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.

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>>24949540
she cute
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>>24949547
Sure but that also applies to trad pub books and all books on kdp and ku
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>>24949572
yes
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>>24949547
>Stub just means the story was written purely to milk dosh
Why?
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>>24949620
Seems pretty self-explanatory, no?
People write WN's for all sorts of reasons, but if you're taking it to KU and removing your writing from any sort of community you're obviously more motivated by money than anything else.

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>>24948108
A jailbroken Kindle Paperwhite with KOReader installed. Amazon's ecosystem is absolutely awful but they make the best hardware.
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>>24947268
yeah i get the cheap ones at dollar tree and thrift stores
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>>24949414
>jailbroken
why tho?
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>>24949349
I'm superior to everyone with all of my unread books, nigger!
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I hate the modern world, but ebook piracy is just too beneficial and convenient to look down on. Where else.am I going to find out of print books from the 19th century, or source the entire Paladin Press catalog for zero dollars, from the comfort of my desk? Too bad printing technology hasn't made low-cost home printing a thing.

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Bolãnobros... it never began...
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>>24949594
God help me if this were real.
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>>24949594
that book sucks ass
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>>24949594
If you ever read Blood Meridian you will never stop wanting to beat Wendigoon to death with your bare hands
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>>24949594
/lit/fags on their way to start shitting on Bolano in the catalog because of normies
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>>24949666
Nice try, Satan, but I always hated Bolano.
Or at least the English translation, the prose in Savage Detectives is dogshit, and everything else (structure, characters, symbolism) isn't good enough to redeem the book.

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I haven't read a book since AI got big. Have you?
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>>24947661
I've read multiple novel length fanfcitions though
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ever since ai i read less and less useful non-fiction and more and more fiction (plus copious amounts of ai written porn)
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>>24947661
I just finished a book bit h
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>>24947661
are you gay though , you don't tell you AI bedtimes stories.

how else is it gonna grow up strong , if AI fails and bursts , is literally only your fault/
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>>24947661
Subhuman.

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How do I master the English language as an ESL? Is there a certified /lit/ guide?
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>>24949518
The foundation that everyone worships as the master:
>KJV Bible.
Some others for flavor:
>Chaucer
>Shakespeare
>Milton
>Austen
>Dickens
>Melville
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>>24949518
Read a bunch of good books. Talk with educated people.
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>>24949521
>>24949521
Chaucer? Lol get real

Grammar textbooks, unironically. You can even find English grammar books partially written in your mother tongue for people like yourself. We all love literature, and reading the classics is edifying and important but you need a foundation to build upon.
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>>24949652
and yes, you need to engage with English speakers frequently. Not just the intelligent, either.
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Start with Greek

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The deepest thinker on the left (Hegel scholar) Vs the deepest thinker on the right (Nietzsche scholar)... A debate between these two would be priceless
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>>24938370
>Displacing native workers is actually le based you goys
Fucking disgusting, kill yourself posthaste
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>>24932740
this but unironically
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>>24949368
He is a bisexual middle aged Zionist without kids
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>>24939488
>same
they seem averge out to the same type of person , though.

although , this might have to do with the fact that people are misinterpreting both , into a wierd bottleneck.
.- same confused turist.
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>>24932734
>disgusting slob vs effeminate jew
I'd rather root for one of those japanese bug fight videos instead.

The best I've read this year

Good night frens.
Tell me your:
>favorite poet
>favorite playwright
>favorite composer
So I have some new comfy suggestions.
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>>24947638
Has to be bait.
>>24947670
Please be bait.
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>>24940941
>Marina Tsvetayeva
>William Shakespeare
>Claudio Monteverdi
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Fernando Pessoa
Eugene O'Neill
Erik Satie or Federico Mompou
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>>24940941
Mayakovskiy, Dante, Milton
Aristophanes, Griboyedov
Rachmaninov, Bach
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>>24940998
>Ravel
based

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Any serious book that talks about the cult of ugliness of the modern world? The toxic positivity, the cacophony of clashing aesthetics, the laziness, and the deliberate effort to undermine purity, all masked by so-called moral virtues or freedom?
Looking at any vintage photo of a poor street, you see beauty in its uniformity -- much like the beauty found in a military parade. Yet now, even in the wealthiest streets, the only remaining beauty of the modern world can be found by gazing up at buildings that were constructed centuries ago, and that are all getting replaced.
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>>24946559
op, you can always migrate to north korea, they have state mandated haircuts and everything and a uniform, state mandated aesthetic for everything so as to not overload your little brain
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>>24948440
men have to be able to empty their balls or violence happens.
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>>24946559
>The toxic positivity
surely you must be joking
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>>24949635
>toxic positivity
you used good word and bad word at the same time.
YOU LOOOSE!
.- not OP.
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>>24946565
what cause

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I'm a published writer, but I only have a dozen or so publishing credits in magazines, and I am not getting anywhere in terms of recognition, so my plan is to play up how much of a minority I am. I want to shill myself as an underrepresented voice to get a brand or to at least make it look like I'm sidelined or suppressed by the establishment, in the hopes it garners sympathy. I think this will be a good business plan and, if I pull it off correctly, it may project me as the next big name in my genre (horror). After all, people are already saying Stephen King is an old white male, and his spot will need to be taken when he dies soon. I can use my mixed heritage (I am only half white but have middle eastern and indigenous ancestry), lived experience with mental illness (GAD, paranoid schizophrenia), and experimentation with homosexuality as an expression for LGBTQIA+ inclusion. Do any anons have experience in the game of publishing, or know which agents are looking for a horror writer with minority clout and has overlapping disabilities or stigma?
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>>24949333
What did I say I wrote? One thing very specifically. And it isn't textbooks. And writing is not how I pay my bills, so I can write what I want.
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>>24949352
>I write academic slop and make good profit margins (false)
>I work another job because writing alone can't support me (true).
>I’m a REAL creative writer operating outside identity politics (false).
>I don’t do much creative writing, my work is institutional slop (true).
In the span of one thread, you have claimed all these contradictory statements. Well done.
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>>24949356
No. I suggest working on your reading comprehension.
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>it's another "two resentful faggots seething at each other" thread
Love these.
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>>24949344
No, but if there is they're probably shit and not worth reading

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Everything you call "living" is just a massive cope to disguise the fact that your biology is desperately trying to return to the inorganic state it crawled out of. You think you have a will to power or life goals but that's just a mask for the will to nothingness. You are essentially a complicated rock that unfortunately gained consciousness and is now taking a circuitous path back to being a rock. The science is clear that the inanimate existed before us and the only real drive is to restore that silence, meaning your entire existence is just a temporary glitchy detour toward the grave. The universe is indifferent, cosmic extinction is guaranteed, and when the heat death of the universe hits it will be like none of this ever happened, so stop deluding yourself that this life is anything other than a long pointless walk back to zero.
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>>24949290
Are you misinterpreting Nietzsche?
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>>24949278
well, stab him then!
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This type of view is far too backwards looking. It ignores that several genuine miracles have occurred, and a materialist can grant these as miracles either in the statistical sense or in the more profound sense of the inherent potentiality of matter in motion (or dialectical materialism if you will), which are the “emergence” of the existence of matter in the first place (this can be either temporal or the eternal miracle of existence’s inherent existence, its existential inertia), the coalescence of matter into complex inorganic systems, the emergence of organic self-replicating systems, the emergence of consciousness out of those organic self-replicating systems and the possibility of natural systems to consciously intervene in the unfolding of phenomena (labor and History), and the (rapid) emergence of more and more complex social formations out of these systems, each step is genuinely unthinkable on the basis of prior systems, matter is imminently developing ever more unthinkable systems of organisation. Mao talked about how after epochs of human development, communism itself would end, the human itself would be superseded, that this self-supersession is inherent to human conduct and all matter, that the universe, all reality is a non-teleological non-subject developing itself immanently into Something, a not-yet that isn’t yet even implicit. What is it? Idk more interesting than nihilism.
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>>24949184
>the only real drive
You are talking about one of the two major drives according to Freud: Thanatos. Todestrieb. The death drive. But there's also Eros, lebenstriebe or the life drive. Maybe life isn't that perfectly dialectical, but why would it so unidimensional?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_drive
>The universe is indifferent
This is meaningless. The universe is an indifferent thing? What do you mean by that? I know thanks to context that you mean that we are not important in the greater scheme of things, but saying "the universe is [adjective of psychological origin]" is essentially metaphorical, there is no clear, primary meaning to this arrange of subject and predicate.
Indifference is a psychological quality. Using a moral instead of psychological example, is Saturn inherently evil? You could say Saturn is indifferent as in outside of moral considerations, but can Saturn or the universe be psychologically indifferent? What do you mean by that? Are you implying some sort of anthropomorphised pantheism?
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>>24949210
what about the simplest argument.

>live good.


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