[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/lit/ - Literature

Name
Spoiler?[]
Options
Subject
Comment
Verification
4chan Pass users can bypass this verification. [Learn More] [Login]
File[]
  • Please read the Rules and FAQ before posting.

08/21/20New boards added: /vrpg/, /vmg/, /vst/ and /vm/
05/04/17New trial board added: /bant/ - International/Random
10/04/16New board for 4chan Pass users: /vip/ - Very Important Posts
[Hide] [Show All]


[Advertise on 4chan]

[Catalog] [Archive]

File: IMG_6484.jpg (1.18 MB, 1179x1716)
1.18 MB
1.18 MB JPG
I regularly see threads on JP and Zizek but less commonly Jung and rarely Lacan.
I have been reading Lacan on and off throughout the year and it has been pretty revelatory to me. If I were to try to take a stab at summarizing Lacan for anons that haven’t studied him, basically everything is fake and gay, anything not fake and gay is real, and >you are a subject beneath the fake and gay but not exactly a 1:1 product of the fake and gay. Your motif should be to recognize that to understand the real through anything fake and gay is impossible, therefore traverse the fake and gay knowing it’s fake and gay in accordance to your desire(TM). If anyone with more experience in Lacanian thought disagrees with my shit take, feel free to correct. Question: Why is Lacan not talked about as often as Freud and Jung are, or perhaps in general? Is his thought too subversive? Is it because he’s French?
Pic related, worst mistake of my life
20 replies and 2 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24952248
You're philosophising right now, so your 'don't-think-just-experience' line rings hollow and naive. On what basis do you make these claims?
>>
>>24952329
Trying to show you something. Certain truths are damaged by being made too explicit. The poetic mind works in broken images.
>>
>>24952343
No they aren't. Symbolic imagery can be understood consciously. That's the major reason why we experience dreams or artistic impulses. The ability to understand symbolism this way is an essential part of psychic health and the major role of the ego in the psyche. Again you're just regressively romanticising the pre-conscious instead of uniting the conscious and the unconscious.
>>
>>24952371
Speech can dull a roses scent. Retreat into abstraction (away from too much joy or too much fear) and you at last grow sea-green and coldly die... Trusting your images, you assumes their relevance; mistrusting my images, I question their relevance. This is the way to understand your confusion.
>>
>>24950506
Lacan isn't a very clear thinker, much like Hegel. They both had little to no understanding of science and yet tried to "incorporate" it into their "thought"

File: 1715966284100741.png (145 KB, 372x447)
145 KB
145 KB PNG
The end of the year is almost here
What are top 9 books you have read this year? You have read more than 9 books, right?
2 replies omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24951183
A Farewell to Arms
Laurus
The Shadow of the Torturer
Faust
The Sorrows of Young Werther
Wilhelm Meister's Apprenticeship
The Great Divorce
That All Shall Be Saved
Madame Bovary
>>
File: 1752272411257205.png (193 KB, 1200x1200)
193 KB
193 KB PNG
1. An Adultery
Tropic of Cancer
Germinal
Cannery Row
Pierre; or, The Ambiguities
A Heart So White
Madame Bovary
The Star Rover
The Kingdom of this World
>>
I only finished five books this year.
>Why We Work
Didn't hate it but makes too many assumptions about people and management
>The Burger King
Enjoyed it but it kind of missed the most interesting parts, ends in 1996 anyway
>The Secret History of Mac Gaming, Expanded Edition
Some of the way pronouns are written was annoying but generally enjoyable
>The One-Stop Bible Guide
Not great, too much Israel 1948 shilling
>Attention Kmart Shoppers: The Rise and Fall of America's First Big Discounter
Didn't learn much that I didn't learn before. Comes from a certain (((people group))) and it shows.
>>
>>24951183
>You have read more than 9 books, right?
No because I don't consider reading some accomplishment
But I've mostly been reading fairy tales
>>
>>24952045
Lagerkvist - The Dward
Hamsun - Hunger
Ellis - American Psycho
Mukka - Maa on Syntinen Laulu
Platonov - The Foundation Pit
Gontsarov - Oblomov
Lind - Landscape in Concrete
Gombrowicz - Pornografia
Martin-Santos - Time of Silence

File: 6g4fbGhPaQAEnsuL.jpg (331 KB, 969x1280)
331 KB
331 KB JPG
prev >>24941253
42 replies and 1 image omitted. Click here to view.
>>
I rode the bus yesterday and they added a memorial portrait of Rosa Parks near the front facing the entire bus, baka
>>
>>24952385
That's weird I took my car to work yesterday and there was a black woman in the front seat claiming to be Rosa Parks
>>
I think the art of being to the point is gone, I don't know how many people I've heard on podcasts and youtube who say the same things 5 times and a 20 or 30 minute segment can be accurately cut down to 5 or 10 minutes.
>>
Feeling depressed and I want to break up with my gf.
>>
Farting constantly, truly nonstop continuous farting, all day, no end in sight even now

File: IMG_0541.jpg (298 KB, 550x806)
298 KB
298 KB JPG
Talk about poems/poets you like, post your own work, and critique others.
14 replies and 3 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
This is a post asking for general reading recommendations.

If you read past that first line then lay any collections you like on me, please, because I'm new to poetry. I'm open to anything but if that's too nebulous then "The Graveyard By The Sea", "Ulalume", and "Song of the Bell" have all stuck with me recently.
>>
>>24952018
Get a compendium
>>
たましひのたとへば秋のほたる哉
>>
File: 2691.jpg (246 KB, 1146x1458)
246 KB
246 KB JPG
Recently bought Chamber Music, Joyce's early book of poems. Am intrigued to read them; it's my next book on the docket.
>>
>>24952018
>new to poetry
Wordsworth
Shelly
Byron
Keats
Tennyson
Kipling

All accessible and good
Welcome!

File: 1764619121660804.png (2.16 MB, 1303x2455)
2.16 MB
2.16 MB PNG
How do you actually overcome post-modernism?
63 replies and 6 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24948572
Postmodernism literally gives conservatives an excuse to act like African niggers and retvrn, (moral relativism) but they rejected it for aesthetic purposes, just because the people who invented it were faggots in France with a BBC fetish.
>>
>>24948572
The hidden irony is that this thread beautifully illustrates why post modernism is the ultimate truth. Different perspectives, lack of objectivity etc… all right here in this thread.
>>
>>24948572
You accept the lessons it is trying to teach you. That your concepts and representations are inherently imprecise and goal-driven... which is fine, since you will rarely (if ever) exercise pointless thought.

Post-modern thought contains a lot of humility that got perverted over time. It is, to use JP's language, a valid "anti-dote" to logical positivism and modernism (duh) which would tell you that knowing a handful of logical laws grants you the keys to understand the ontology of the entire cosmos. In actuality we're just hyper-fixating on propositional representations. And postmodernism is showing us a way out. Often destructive, often perverted, but it's a step in the right direction. Models must give way to reality and too many people confuse theory and reality.
>>
File: jordan peterson ted.png (449 KB, 640x514)
449 KB
449 KB PNG
thinking back to when I had some respect for Peterstein is weird
>>
>>24949000
Trips to prove ur a retard congrats

File: fred.jpg (6 KB, 211x239)
6 KB
6 KB JPG
>Cat's Cradle
>Quetzalcoatl
>>
>>24951812
I couldn't finish this book. It was terrible.
>>
>>24951812
THE.MEGABITCH

File: grinch.jpg (92 KB, 735x1000)
92 KB
92 KB JPG
What did I think?
18 replies and 3 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24947736
Green eggs and han only used 50 words
>>
>>24948764
"how the grinch ruined christmas" sounds a lot more gay
>>
>>24951693
"How the Grinch violated the NAP"
>>
>>24948764
Wait until you read the Neverending Story.
>>
>>24947287
damn...

File: image_92(1).jpg (52 KB, 450x450)
52 KB
52 KB JPG
Which one is his best?
>>
Barfly (he wrote the screenplay)
>>
sex gifs
>>
Factotum

>>24952336
Great movie, great cast (Charlie's mom from it's always sunny is one of the barflies) but Rourke's Chinaski is very uhh.. well I don't think it's what Buk had in mind. Great performance, but he does his own thing with the character.

File: 592851.jpg (120 KB, 1000x1500)
120 KB
120 KB JPG
If, according to Gnosticism, the material world was created by an ignorant or malevolent Demiurge, why did the higher, benevolent source of reality allow such a being or such a world to come into existence? This idea seems to relocate the problem of evil to a meta-level rather than resolving it.
18 replies and 2 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24950052
>"I didn't cause these problems, why should I have to solve them"

That's exactly why you MUST solve these problems. It is not your fault that you were born in a burning house. It is the fault of your fathers and forefathers. But if you do not do your part (put the flames out, leave the house) then nothing will get better for anyone at all, especially not the people who will succeed you. If you do nothing, then it DOES become your fault.

Existence is only a punishment if you let it be through inaction, selfishness, denial of responsibility, arrogance, apathy, and cruelty towards others. Liberate yourself, anon. Otherwise, we will all remain slaves.
>>
The original gods never created reality or material world. It's entirely the demiurges domain. The original gods don't give a shit and won't lower themselves by interacting with the demiurge in any way. You having the ability to escape is good enough.

Also in most forms of gnosticism the demiurge is a tragic character, more like a small child playing with dolls rather than some evil eldritch being most people seem to portray it as.
>>
>>24949807
You don't want a coherent answer to that.
>>
Gnosticism is such crocodile tears bullshit. You distort all reality into evil out of fake empathy for suffering which is really just a means for getting one over on your fellow man.
>>
>>24952456
It’s throwing a tantrum about God

File: Hammer_and_sickle.svg.png (31 KB, 2048x2048)
31 KB
31 KB PNG
>can't win over blacks
>can't win over poorfags
>outright enemies of blue collar workers
>not taken seriously/ seen as useful idiots by their intellectually inferior middle class liberal pragmatic allies
>can't/won't win over the armed forces
>can't/won't win over the intelligence agencies
>can't/won't win over the politicians

>decent success rate with middle class children (dropped by junior yr), academics, homosexuals and trannys.

Is there a book which explains how this leads to revolutionary success or should i just see all the le-science-of-hisory 2-more-weeksism from the past 200 years?
46 replies and 9 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
didn't germany have Lenin use communism as a weapon to weaken russia during the 1st WW
I don't think communism is a terrible governing form, it's issue is that bad people game the system to enrich themselves with power and wealth. And all it's champions are silver spoon elitists
>>
File: its all so tiresome.png (643 KB, 1022x731)
643 KB
643 KB PNG
>it's another "confirmation that napoleon's defeat destroyed european sovereignty for good" episode
>>
>>24952153
And the countries willingly gave up communist rule after the fall of the USSR, Cambodia as well.
>>
>>24950940
Yeah sure but you didn't quote the main point about the emerging industrialists.
>>
my main problem with communists is they feign intellectual superiority and expect you to take them seriously and engage in their boring little arguments
just practice what you preach and actually do communism, have it succeed a single time PLEASE

File: image0.gif (1.17 MB, 220x257)
1.17 MB
1.17 MB GIF
Are there any librarians or library assistants here? How did you get your job? I want to be a library assistant but Ive found it difficult to find a job.
10 replies omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24949864
My sister is one.
>>
My mom ks one. She got in with a bachelor's degree in equine science. Without an MA you can only be a librarian for small-town libraries though
>>
>>24949864
I once I got a job as a library assistant in a call center. Didn't last for more than six months because I didn't fit in with anyone else. Basically you had to fulfill ALL of these categories.
>must be a woman, if not must be gay or be able to be mistaken for gay
>must be firmly left wing, if not you must be old and fulfill all the other categories
>if you're black and have a legitimate disability you don't have to follow these rules
>>
>>24952061
This, except you also have to have a degree for some reason to sit there and handle books. I've been doing this all my life, why the fuck do I need an advanced degree to be a glorified store clerk?
>>
>>24952061
All of this sounds like you are just shit at talking to women. I guarantee you're exaggerating this because of your own inability to talk to the opposite gender in a friendly way without wanting to fuck them. You're an incel.

File: default.png (434 KB, 437x648)
434 KB
434 KB PNG
If you are an American or English, why are you not reading the wealth of world-historic literature written in your own tongue for people of your own mind?

Why are you reading translations of brown-people literature (viz. French, Italian, German, Spanish, Russian) instead of the WASP corpus?
6 replies and 2 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24951500
>American
I don't read any of that rubbish m8, I can read authors of the Isles until the day I die.
>>
>>24951500
the first complete accurate Bible in any one language is the kjv. there also lovecraft and milton
>>
because real America (the south) is Norman Clay
fuck outta here with that anglo rubbish
>>
>>24951500
>If you are an American or English, why are you not reading the wealth of world-historic literature written in your own tongue for people of your own mind?
i mostly am, translations are zoom-through light reading breaks from real reading
>>
>>24951500
Jonathan Edwards was one of the finest theologians ever.. and American.

File: wojakverytired.png (170 KB, 377x408)
170 KB
170 KB PNG
Need a book for when I have an insomnia spell and can't sleep. I don't want to doomscroll my phone so it seems like a good way to get back into reading.
9 replies and 3 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24949522
>>
>>24949522
any book on programming. or better yet, raw code
>>
File: images (8).jpg (11 KB, 194x259)
11 KB
11 KB JPG
>>24949522
I listen to audiobooks in bed, right now this
>>
>>24951120
this looks like a solid read
>>
>>24949733
Agreed. I wanted to like this and it killed me.

File: Marshall_McLuhan.jpg (91 KB, 736x1055)
91 KB
91 KB JPG
Where do I start with this guy? He's the one philosopher from my country I know of, and I want to check out what he wrote and the theories he came up with. I heard some stuff about his book on Finnegans Wake, is that worth reading too?
>>
Charles Taylor is a better canadian philosopher
>>
I have the medium is the massage and it made me no longer interested in reading this guy.

File: KJVPew.jpg (43 KB, 602x1000)
43 KB
43 KB JPG
I read Augustine's Confessions which convinced me to get a Bible (picrel) and I've been reading through the gospels and psalms and proverbs and have decided I want to get more serious about studying the Bible and the teachings of Jesus Christ. Can any anons recommend me a good study bible to get over winter break? I was considering getting the Ignatius catholic study bible or the Reformation Heritage KJV study bible but I'm open to any suggestions. I've attended catholic mass a couple times and also intend on trying out a Lutheran and a Presbyterian church nearby, but I was raised in a secular household so I have no idea what I'll end up choosing denomination-wise.

There was a thread earlier this week about Machen where someone posted some /lit/ and I got some writings of the Church Fathers and Luther I intend on reading through as well, but aside from that and a few youtube videos from online personalities I'm pretty ignorant so I'd be grateful for any help
16 replies and 2 images omitted. Click here to view.
>>
>>24952443
Check out the Ready To Harvest channel, he breaks down the doctrine and beliefs of many churches. Will be useful for you.
>>
>>24952445
>>24952442
Also, Ive been in your shoes, and I think attending a church is very important for you right now, though it will be difficult to leave if your understanding and conscience compels you to switch after your faith matures, I speak from experience as I first attended a Church of Christ. I firmly reject their doctrinal beliefs, but loved the people there and it was difficult to break away without some guilt. Still attending worship is worth that risk, it's the most nourishing thing in the world for a Christian.
>>
>>24952440
The ESV probably does do what he wants a Bible to do, but I was sticking to him looking for a KJV. The ESV is certainly more enjoyable to read for us, but I know a lot of people want the KJV experience because of how universal it is in the culture.
>>
>>24952449
Yes , you're right, it's ideal for his purposes if he wants to stick with KJV.
>>
>>24952445
>>24952447
Thanks Anon I'll do that...I'll also get baptized as it seems like the obvious proper start no matter what church I end up deciding on.


[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]
[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.