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maekar I targaryen, first of his name edition

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>>24715115
The “fat pink mast” line is so infamous that I’d forgotten that this scene also involves breastfeeding (from a young mother, no less).
You can really tell that the series was way less famous, if George was this brazen about showing his fetishes.
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>>24704184
could King Slanding have won the game of thorns if he survived the bear attack?
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>>24716568
Yeah, bro, and so is Joffrey.
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>>24708511
This still means they're different. And mindlessly equating the show and the books is still retarded.
>>24708573
People won't ever get it. They're either showfags or got mind broken by the fatman being lazy that they started shitting all over his work out of spite.
>>24709164
I couldn't stop giggling throughout. I need more.
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In the CK2 mod it seems like the Blackfyres are just the best dynasty for power gaming.
>All the same benefits as Targs
>All the same bloodlines as Targs, up to Viserys II
>Eternal claims on all of Westeros, even if none of your ancestors have ruled it in centuries.
>The Blackfyre bloodline itself has the same benefits as the Targ bloodline, and they stack, so it’s basically just Targ x2
>After that they get Daemon Blackfyre, amazingly good bloodline, really OP. Also Maelys the Monstrous, mid bloodline, has bad effects but they’re countered by good effects.
>Targs get Aerys II, one of the worst bloodlines in the game, worse than Walder Frey or any of the individual Bolton bloodlines.
After that you’ve got Jon+Rhaegar (both good but Aerys II more than cancels the strongest benefit of either, opinion boost, same for Aegon+Rhaegar), and Dany (really good)
Most strategic move is to be Aegon, declare Blackfyre heritage, get all the sweet Blackfyre bloodlines and lose Aerys’ shitty one (at the minor cost of losing Rhaegar’s good bloodline, but you gain Illyrio which is also good) and then breed Daenerys to just absorb the best post-Vizzy 2 bloodline.
On the obverse the most gimped dynasty are the Boltons, all Bolton bloodlines are really bad, people will be really racist to you because your ancestors are evil. You can save the world from zombies and the bloodline you get barely makes a dent in the handicaps put on you just for being named Bolton. Truly the hard mode of Westeros.

Can we have an actual discussion about Charlie Kirk's books?
>inb4 /pol/
He was a writer among other things therefore a thread devoted to a discussion of his books belongs in here
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i hate politicniggers. every single one
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>>24716626
>Among other things, the Right is necessarily squeamish about open violence because there has been a double standard on it compared to the Left's violence
Kirk didn't actually think the violence would happen to him. He was killed in the middle of explaining why mass shootings are not a big deal because of gang violence then blam. What you have are a bunch of streamers and "activists" who have found it profitable to tap into people's anger at their declining standard of living and the political paralysis of 21st-century America, but they act like they're immune from the consequences. Also this whole attitude of winner-takes-all, win/lose, zero-sum and get triggered you liberal fruitcakes, it's going to come back around eventually, because it's not like those people go away when the other side wins an election. And as a matter fact, the Constitution provides people with weapons to fight the state which this guy apparently identified in Kirk.

>>24716862
>You know, leftists love to post "you won't do shit" at right-wingers, but they seem to like to forget that the one time when the rules of engagement were loosened, a fat underage right-wing dude smoked three of their guys in less than 90 seconds.
I think the reality is that lethal violence with high-caliber weapons is extremely sudden and very, very scary.
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regardless of political stance you gotta admit 1 bullet to the throat was fucking badass
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>>24715886
>People like you think you have a monopoly on violence because so far, the right had no reason to be violent because they were easily winning peacefully in the free market place of ideas.
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>>24717202
>REEEEEEEEEEE YOU MISUNDERSTOOD THE QUOTE REEEEEE
>you say you're not proving anything. oh yeah? oh yeah? WELL YOU'RE NOT PROVING ANYTHING

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Τῆς ὀπώρης edition

>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·
>>24669573

>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·
https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw

>Mέγα τὸ ANE·
https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg

>Work in progress FAQ
https://rentry dot co/n8nrko

All Classical languages are welcome.
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Should I buy this? Will it make me able to read Old Norse poetry?
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>>24715644
Yes, I'm aware. That's still quite a bit denser and more in need of explanation than most modern children's books, but granted that CC is up there with Latin in that regard.
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>>24715647
This is an edition. You read them AFTER you learned the language.
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Ecce, autismum!
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>>24717105
seemed excessive at first but I guess it can be quite useful, is it automatic?

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Notable Authors: H.P. Lovecraft, Thomas Ligotti, Robert Aickman, Clive Barker, Edgar Allan Poe, Algernon Blackwood, Shirley Jackson, Richard Matheson, Stephen King, William Peter Blatty, Robert Bloch, Bram Stoker, Mary Shelley, Edogawa Rampo, Arthur Machen, Ambrose Bierce, M.R. James, Sheridan Le Fanu, Brian Evenson, William Hope Hodgson, Clark Ashton Smith, Frank Belknap Long, Ramsey Campbell, Caitlin R Kiernan, Laird Barron, Jack Ketchum, Stefan Grabinski, Peter Straub, and many many more

Discuss your favorite horror tales in both short and long form. What have you read lately? What do you want to read? What's a work of horror fiction or an author who you want to recommend?
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>>24716343
folk horror is a subgenre of cosmic horror
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>>24716917
How?
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>>24716283
Haven't read the book but I saw the movie of Burnt Offerings and it was fucking crap
McCammon is bad so how good could Swan's Song be? Also Swan's Song came after The Stand
Straub is boring as watching paint dry so how good could Floating Dragon be?
Jerusalem Who
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>>24717243
>Haven't read the book but I saw the movie of Burnt Offerings and it was fucking crap
The movie was shit, the book is much better.

To what extent do you think modern humans are beholden to natural evolution?

By that I mean: natural selection is the process where genetic differences lead to certain individuals being more likely to reproduce, and thus pass on the specific genetic traits that made them more likely to do so, leading to organisms changing over many generations. But for modern humans, there are many factors beyond the purely genetic that determine whether someone reproduces or not, and these factors aren't (necessarily) inherited as genetics are, which would suggest "natural" evolution isn't at play anymore.

Wealth, status, education, occupation, political or spiritual membership and community in general, personality; some of these you could potentially argue can be traced back to purely genetic differences, but many have nothing to do with the material makeup of the person being born, and even larger abstract factors like "the state of the nation's economy" or "the geopolitics of the continent" have an effect on if or when humans reproduce. At that point we are lightyears away from genetics mattering.

Not to mention, if we assume that free will exists, someone who is in the position to could simply choose not to reproduce simply because they can. Is "natural selection" still at play there?

And no, I'm not really interested in how you think your god(s) factor into this.
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>>24713571
Since women do most of the selecting, I'd say not much. Women select for low intelligence, which is why society is getting progressively dumber each generation. I do believe God exists but he's very very angry.
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>>24717194
>Rationalists
As opposed to Empricists, huh?

I think memetics has some merit though.
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>>24714661
Lack of coitus. Freud had a point.
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>>24717234
Unfortunately I'm referring to the retarded personality cult around people like Eliezer Yudkowsky and Scott Alexander rather than the genuine philosophical movement.
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>>24717240
Oh I should have known. Carry on.

But on the topic of mimesis and mimetics what literature is relevant?

Any good books that refute Zizek's metaphysical system?
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>>24716432
a non retarded reading of hegel's logic and phenomenology
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>>24716432
How do people find targeted thorough refutations of any philosophical system?
Some one can go
>UNREFUTED
to any big name philosopher I can think of and its true because I am not really aware of much systematic works of refutation. Someone who would be interested in doing that would instead make their own system.
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>>24716432
Its piecemeal but I heard pilleater has done it
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>>24716432
Fashionable Nonsense though it doesn't refute zizek specifically.
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>>24716432
Yes
Zizek's

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What do we think of "La Comédie humaine"?

As a social retard, I need to learn. I got no empathy but I'm too much of a retard to be a machiavellian dude
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idk but balzac sounds like ballsack LMAO
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>>24717131
>La Comédie humaine
I don't think there's one anon here that has read through all of it. Maybe that one Balzac anon.
One has to applaud the author, truly one of the greats
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>>24717226
Of course nobody does, but I'm pretty sure lots of people in here read at least part of La Vie Parisienne.

I enjoyed Illusions Perdues, as sad as it is.
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>>24717230
I have only finished Eugenie Grandet and Pere Goriot myself. Both works are greats in their own right, but I feel inclined to prefer the former.
I specially like his reflective tone on changing social structures. It makes one think about how much this world has changed since the 18th-19th century bourgeoisie paradigm shift

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have you ever invented a word? zoomers recently invented chalant
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>>24717061
It's based on nonchalant, not really new.
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This man is the most successful millenial word inventor

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Which way Western Man?
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>>24716246
It’s a forgivable misreading, this is exactly why Fichte abandoned the method of the three foundational principles, because it suggests this primitive is/ought dualism. But Hegel didn’t know the lectures and Fichte was too buttblasted by the atheism controversy to publish them. You could read the whole Nova Methodo lectures as a retroactive response to this. Tl;dr - being-for-one is the noumenal self in Nova Methodo, it is not in time, the infinite progress does not exist for it as such. We of course phenomenally experience infinite progress and Hegel does not dispute this.
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>>24715237
what you see is NOT what you get
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>>24715137
accurate and clairvoyant
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>>24716151
He is literally just seetheposting about getting admittedly filtered lmfao
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>>24716232
I don't mind having theoretical framework debates but just posting twitter screencaps of Nick Land's insults and Schopenhauer's insults doesn't really constitute buck breaking charlatans. If Land is still sticking with Leotard then he's still within Marxist bounds. If he's departed from Marx but still using it then he basically has to accept he doesn't have any idealistic merit and has to agree with Nietzsche or Schope and has fragged his own truth claims, he still might have a materialistic case but given all I see are insults my guess is he's just citing magic and gnosis. No offense to gnostics. So does he have some sort of proof beyond that he doesn't want to do dialectic and is welcome to believe whatever he wants?

how do you read the bible?
do you just read it in order as if it were a novel? or there are better ways?
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>>24716167
Obviously I don't read the books in a day. I typically read about 1-3 chapters per day.
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>>24711239
You read it as a silly, alien, decadent Jewish byproduct.
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>>24716831
Sad he fell off in his later years
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>>24711575
They're not long at all. Some of them really do drag on and on about heritage or cubits but each individual book is shorter than most short-novels you've read
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>>24711239
The way I read it and they way I learned to love it was to read it alongside real archeological studies on the areas and anthropology in the bronze and iron age Canaan, Egypt and Midian.
You'll then realized a lot of these stories are historical accounts simplified(and transformed into simple oral traditions. Figuring out these puzzles is the fun here to me.
The bible is the ultimate unreliable-author book.

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"Catzilla" edition

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I've ranged up and down these boards, but when I ask myself what is the most needless thread on 4chan, my mind always recurs to /wg/. There really is no point. All posters know it too. That's why it's so seldom used. There hangs about it the air of dead dreams. It becomes a perverse talisman to all the /lit/ posters who didn't quit their day job. Look at the distasteful silence that howls down these threads. It's only broken by the same two voices batting their word counts back and forth, as though any formless mass of writing is fit to print. Most writers sweat blood to reach 1000 publishable words. Your daily 1000, written to no purpose, would require a gift of unerring judgement to equal theirs. And, let's be honest, if you did possess such a gift, would 4chan be the first place you boast about it?
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chatGPT polemics against the /wg/. an unexpected swerve for the board.
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>>24715154
maybe post the first page or something and not on google
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>>24714949
post moar
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how is the start of my epilogue?

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Books that embody the feeling of sniffing smelly women socks?
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>>24717188
I am going to find you and pull my cock out and slit a giant hole in your feet and fuck it and knock your feet up, nonny~ I am raping my goonstick just thinking about it~ I need nonny cock to splurt just from how fucking disgusting and depraved you are. I want you to bleed out and get ulcers and have them rupture in a cascade of pus and then force you to drink gasoline and jump on your stomach until you vomit it and light the vomit on fire whit a lighter so you burn from the outside in, nonny~
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>>24717211
Uhmm....
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>>24717218
*does this to you*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LjVwHnaW-s

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>heidegger thought all this was shit because it doesn't "reveal the stone"
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>>24716959
read Coomaraswamy
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>>24716959
Even in beautiful art, the beauty is just one moment in the interaction between consciousness and matter that makes art the most important thing in the world.
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>>24716876
Heidegger hated western civilization.
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>>24716949
>>24716959
Art isn't utilitarian.
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>>24716889
>The same year, Teresa Benedicta a Cruce and her biological sister Rosa, by then also a convert and an extern (tertiary of the order, who would handle the community's needs outside the monastery), were sent to the Carmelite monastery in Echt, Netherlands, for their safety. In response to the pastoral letter from the Dutch bishops on 26 July 1942, in which they made the treatment of the Jews by the Nazis a central theme, all baptized Catholics of Jewish origin (according to police reports, 244 people) were arrested by the Gestapo on the following Sunday, 2 August 1942.
WTFFF???? /pol/ told me nazis only killed rich jewish people!!!!! wtf they did kill this woman for???

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Did I get filtered or is this one weak?
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>>24714869
Based on this extremely specific criticism I take it the weird matriarchal orgies are historically accurate?
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>>24714869
>when someone from south Canaan shows up and preaches against the bull worship.
He charges the bull with a knife and dies, which is hilarious. How can you be mad about that?
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Is her Alexander trilogy good? I’ve been considering reading it because I’m on a historical fiction set in antiquity kick, but I’m worried it’ll just be purely about Alexander getting dicked down. I’m okay with a little gay shit, but I’m not interested in a full blown gay romance trilogy.
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>>24716296
Renault's men are poon hounds and hilariously chauvinistic, no worries
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>>24716296
>"Alexander trilogy"
>entire third book is an epilogue because he's dead
Absolute madlady

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Who is your favorite writer who did not with the Nobel Prize for Literature?
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>>24716720
This. Pulitzer sure but Nobel peace prize? No way Jose.
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>>24716998
we're talking about the nobel prize for literature not peace.
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>>24715190
Shakespeare
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Sartre
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>>24715190
Fun question. I think either James or Borges.
Just noticed Joyce never won one, so Joyce. Suppose the really interesting modernists didn't start getting nobels until the 1940s
Waiting out captcha: Nabokov didn't win either?
I'll stick w/ Joyce. Actually teaching Portrait in an undergrad seminar later this semester and really looking forward to it


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