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So they adapted a Pynchon novel for film
I've never read Pynchon before but like
"One Battle After Another" - what the FUCK is this turbo jogger leftist power fanstasy bullshit?
I always realized Hollywood is a bunch left-leaning cucks but holy fuck they outdid themselves with this one.
The level of blatant propaganda is on par with fucking commie films of Stalin's era or something.
This guy made "There will be blood" and now this what the fuck. This movie doesn't even feel real, it's a caricature of a movie.

Tell me bros is Pynchon cringe plebbitor shit like that and not based? Le speaking truth to power
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>>24946217
Not really. One Battle after Another has none of the humor or the surrealism or the subtext of the book it's based on. It really just takes the basic plot of "Retired hippie has his daughter taken away by the government stooge her mom had an affair with" and does something mostly unrelated with it. Hell, the book was more of an anthology, that was really only one plotline that went through it.

The movie is some boring facsimile of Pynchon that feels like it was written by a guy stuck in the 00's and directed by a guy stuck in the 70's and neither of these guys has a clue what Pynchon's appeal actually is.

Real Pynchon is not only one of the best english speaking satirists of our time but his work is pretty much the ultimate map to 20th century western parapolitics. Anderson clearly doesn't understand either. If you want to watch a movie that feels like Pynchon, go for Dr. Strangelove, Southland Tales or even Eddington.
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>>24948662
I didn't get the impression that the movie was that gung-ho about leftist political violence, if anything Leo's character almost conveyed the opposite. He was a true believer until he got a kid and now all he wants is for her to do well in school and the ability to light up a bowl and watch old French movies in his meager hovel. The rest of the French 75 who didn't quit either got a prison sentence or a bullet in the head for their trouble, and Sean Penn died trying to impress a bunch of corny old men in Lacoste quarter zips so that he could join their special Christmas club. The only person who emerged unscathed was Leo because he stopped playing cops and robbers and got out with his daughter and tried to stay as far away from that world as he could. Also Benicio Del Toro made it out OK, and he actually took action that didn't involve planting any bombs or shooting anyone
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I thought PTA did an amazing job with "Inherent Vice" - I'd thought of Pynchon as unfilmable but he really managed to capture the feeling of being inside a Pynchon novel. I'll watch this one but that would be hard to match or repeat.
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OBAA is pristine Pinecone in cinema form. You sense his signature wit in each cut. P.T. Underboob read him well.

>I'm getting fucking paranoid man, I'm getting fucking paranoid
Just like a character in a Thomas Pynchon novel!
>I'm gonna say it... greeN ACRES
Literally getting away with saying it, a not-so-subtle nod and staple of every literature great
>What is it, he, she, they?
No trouble staying contemporary
>(over the phone) "You're violating my space right now!"
Ditto
>black nun: "Don't ax for the fuckin Wi-Fi, okay?"
Just lol


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What I found most interesting was the othering of the transsexual character and also of the trigger warning character. The transsexual was the one that gave away his friend to the police. The trigger warning character was depicted as dislikeable and unhelpful. So for me this film represented the divorce between the domestic terrorist leftists and the 2010s social media leftists. It was like a clarion call to all the "real niggas" that it was time to stop going along with all that "gay shit".

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Look everyone! It's a new /lit/ thread!
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>>24958314
People here are cunts yeah
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>>24958314
Vaginas are scary
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>>24958314
>implying a listening component

No ones discusses the ideas of female thinkers or the work of female writers.

Trannys screech their voices are important, chuds scream they're whores. But no one bothers discussing them.
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imagine the bdussy brehs...
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>>24958330
The vagina is clearly in view.

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This book changed my life for the better
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>>24957136
I'm surprised that lighthouse withstood the force of that TRVKE
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>>24951011
The genetic bottleneck in question was the Neolithic Revolution
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>>24947641
This. Honestly it's a psyop to get people to have less vaginal preventative sex. My wife cums better from penetration.
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>>24950204
>with decaying nigrescent tapeworm caviar spilling from the crevice
Gave me a giggle.
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>>24950554
Men are the objectified sex.

i don't even know how to describe what i'm trying to ask so i can't really google it but maybe you bros can help me
i'm looking for works written about the entire phenomenon of how people come up with the consensus for an "ideal state" of a technology, as in there seems to be a sort of generally agreed upon golden age for every major technology that exists, like video games from 20-30 years ago or cars from the same era, for example

i'd like to know if anyone has written anything serious about it
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YOU ALL NEED TO STOP USING WORDS THE MEANING OF WHICH YOU IGNORE.

YOU MEAN «OPTIMAL», NOT «IDEAL».
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>>24958415
to be honest, i'm not even sure which word to even use because it's a mystery to me
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>>24958447


I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN, BUT I DO NOT KNOW OF ANY STUDIES ON THAT VERY SPECIFIC SUBJECT.

THERE IS A THEORY OF ÆSTHETICS THAT POSES THAT ANY ARTISTIC MOVEMENT CONSOLIDATES INTO AN EPOCH WITH THREE DISTINCT SUCCESSIVE PHASES: ARCHAIC, CLASSICAL, BAROQUE; THIS THEORY IS APPLICABLE TO EVERYTHING, REALLY.

NOSTALGIA FOR A SPECIFIC PERIOD IS, OFTEN, TOWARD THE CLASSICAL PHASE OF A GIVEN EPOCH, OR HISTORICAL CONTINVVM; THE PHASE AT WHICH THE RUDIMENTS HAVE BEEN OVERCOME, THE CONVENTIONS SET, AND, THE TECHNIQUES, PERFECTED, BUT BEFORE SOPHISTICATION LEADS TO FORMAL TRANSGRESSIONS, AND TECHNICAL LUDISM.

IT IS IDIOTIC; NOSTALGIA KILLS; APART FROM THAT, CLASSICISM MAY BE THE PHASE OF PERFECTION, BUT BAROQUISM IS THE PHASE OF OPTIMALITY; THE PHASE AT WHICH MASTERY IS TOTAL, ALLOWING FOR FORMAL PLASTICITY.

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Should I start with Eliade or Varg Vikernes for a better understanding of paganism?
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Pagan LARPing is just Wicca for autistic incels.
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>>24956248
Varg is an atheist
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>>24958207
Nigga who will take urs Indians? Europe being Muslims is finez Islam is based too. Yt ppl who are pagans are larpers and it's gone bro
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>>24958207
How does having gay buttsex in the woods for Wotan going to protect EVROPA from muslims again?
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>>24956248
You should start by learning and practicing magic and animism as a magical practice, as that's where paganism (and Christianity, actually) originates.

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Do you prefer fantasy, cyberpunk, or space?
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>>24958469
cyberpunk. space can be good but gets limited after a while and fantasy has too little opportunity for genuine universal insights

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Cavaliers vs Roundheads, who had the better literature? I admit the Cavaliers have a larger amount of great writers, but Milton and Marvell for the Roundheads is a nigh unbeatable combo.
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>>24953066
Sidetracking here, but does anybody know of any good books on the English Civil War?
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>>24958215
C.V. Wedgewood is known mostly for her book on the Thirty Years War but she wrote a trilogy on the English Civil War which is also quite good. Diane Purkiss also wrote a good one, A People's History of the English Civil War, which features a lot of excerpts from letters and memoirs from folks from all walks of life and beliefs and classes
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>>24958245
I forgot to also mention by Purkiss, since the books blended together in my memory: The English Civil War: Papists, Gentlewomen, Soldiers, and Witchfinders in the Birth of Modern Britain. Also includes a lot of excerpts from both sides and follows the lives of multiple regular people over the course of the war
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>>24958245
>>24958252
Thanks Anon. I'll check these out
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>>24958252
>>24958245
Is this feminist propaganda?

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Books that give off this phenotype
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>>24958416
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Moorcock and Bakker desu
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>>24958416
antkind by charlie kaufman is about such a creature. very funny, a bit overlong.
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hating on "nu-males" is such a 2010s phenomenon

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I do that first thing in the morning. Every. Damn. Day.
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>>24958013
WAHMEN COMMENT
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>>24958367
Nah that was definitely written by a drunk white guy baiting.
t. I get drunk and say shit like that on pol
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>>24957973
In some ways I find that lit intruiging to read because it offers an insight into the dull mind of a sheltered chick who has spent her entire young adult life moving between higher education institutions in the US and Britain and therefore has zero insight into the real world. Every situation the protagonist finds themselves in is presented in the exact same flat emotional tone, as if the character too is dependent on SSRIs to make it through the day.
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Elif Shafak moment

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Critical Thinking ; A Concise Guide
Bowell, Tracy, Cowan, Robert, Kemp, Gary

https://annas-archive.org/md5/4514ce30a924b80a1f89aed3fe88bdd8
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Revised Fundamental Methods of Logic
by Matthew Knachel and Sean Gould

https://cwi.pressbooks.pub/revisedfundamentalmethodsoflogic
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That's a lot of links for a lot of shit OP just skimmed a few pages from.
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https://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00watt
https://archive.org/details/logick_2507_librivox
table of contents:https://www.heritagebooks.org/content/Logicsample.pdf
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https://warosu.org/lit/thread/24942641

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The five-star rating system is a terrible.

There are many books I read which ok, but not bad or unenjoyable. Maybe they don't do anything special, or they didn't grip me, or they are too messy. I don't want to give this sort of book a 2 star rating, as that is, to me, a negative rating, and these aren't bad books.

Then there are many books which are good and/or enjoyable. Maybe they are well-made slop. Maybe they are objectively good, but simply don't particularly appeal to me. However I can't justify 4 stars (which is for great books) or 5 stars (which is for Great, perfect, or personally important books).

There is a huge gap between these two qualities of books to me as a reader, but there is no way to distinguish between them on Goodreads (or similar platforms with five-star-no-half-star rating systems).

For me, a six- or seven-star system would be the best. It doesn't matter how natural fives and tens are when they don't align with our needs. Ten is too many (this applies also to five-star-half-star systems). My ideal system:
>1: Personal grudge, complete hatred, or abject amateurism
>2: All-around bad, but not egregiously so
>3: Bad but with moments; ok but not personally appealing; [fine but derivative; perfectly average]*
>4: Good but messy; enjoyable slop; objectively good but not particularly personally interesting
>5: Great, but not perfect
>6: Perfect

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>>24958113
Just give the book a 5 stars, goy
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Anon in this world there is hot or cold, good or bad, 1s or 0s.
If you need people to know what you think about the book write a review, either people will read it or they won't.
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it's real simple

>5 stars: loved it
>4 stars: liked it
>3 stars: ambivalent/indifferent
>2 stars: disliked it
>1 star: hated it
>no stars: didn't finish
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The problem isn't the rating system, it's that 90% of the raters are women
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You could only use the 4.5 half star no?
1 2 3 4 4.5 5

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Without God, meaning and morality do not have an objective grounding, yet a bunch of you people live as if your life still has value, or that your choices matter. The moment you deny God, you lose the right to claim that objective value, meaning, or purpose exist, or that something is right or wrong. But you cannot rule out the possibility of God either by default, because of cause and effect, and symmetry and order, etc.

If a mathematician was presented with the choice (A) guaranteed 0%, and choice (B) even a slight chance of >0%, the mathematician would be forced to choose (B), not out of fear or despair, but out of logic and rationality. If everything you believe in collapses without a creator, and you can see even a slight chance for His existence, you must have faith in Him; otherwise, your choice is emotional.

Most of you people do not want to be logically 100% consistent, and that is why you fail the test. You do not fail the test because you lack proof; you fail the test because you hate the truth.
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>>24958284
Why do you assume picking a god to believe in creates an objective foundation? Why not simply accept that the universe, as it is, contains objective morality? We know that some experiences will reliably bring positive or negative states of being (pain and pleasure for example), so why can't you just appeal to reality as it presents itself as an objective basis for good and bad rather than creating a Being (which belongs more properly to myth and anthropology)? One doesn't simply prefer pleasure to pain, the essence of what pleasure is has desirability inherent in it. It is desirability in and of itself. Whatever that essence is will be our only possible hope for an "objective" basis for morality. After all, would you want to subscribe to an "objective" morality which diminishes the kind of good life which maximizes the positive states of being I referenced earlier? Isn't it suspicious to you that the "objective" morality of god isn't mass murdering and torture, but instead maps on to a primitive form of maximizing social cohesion? Why not simply cut out the rudimentary aid of a deity and use that as the metric, like the Greek "Eudaimonia"?
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>>24957262
This guy eats dogs.
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>>24957262
>Without God, meaning and morality do not have an objective grounding,
that's only true for the jews and the people who aped them
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>>24958356
Its true for all men.
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I have knowledge of God's existence from reality, what place does faith have?
Faith is about accepting something you cannot justify through facts simply because you want it to be true

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Forget Winds of Winter, when is this shit coming?
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>>24956395
hopefully never
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>>24957319
>I thought the story was that the draft was written years ago and it's not edited?
Anyone who still believes this is an idiot.
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Selitos = Iax = Eucanis = Cthaeh
Haliax = Lanre = Tehlu = son of Iax
(A great silence descended, and the fetters of enchantment fell away from Selitos. He cast the stone at Lanre’s feet and said, “By the power of my own blood I bind you. By your own name let you be accursed.”)

Cinder = Ferula = Menda = son of Lanre and Lyra = ex-husband of Felurian
(The door opened, and a man stepped out. [...] He stood proud and tall, with coal-black hair and eyes. “I am the one you think is Menda,” he said in a voice both powerful and deep. “What do you want of me?”)
(I tried to steer her in the direction of the Chandrian. “no,” she said, looking me squarely in the eye, her back straight. “I will not speak of the seven." [...] “If you ask of the seven again in this place, I will drive you from it. No matter if your asking be firm or gentle, honest or slantways. if you ask I will whip you forth from here with a lash of brambles and snakes. I will drive you before me, bloody and weeping, and it will not stop until you are dead or fled from fae.”)
Remmen = son of Menda and Felurian
(Felurian, Lady of Twilight, Lady of the First Quiet)
("Chronicler, I would like you to meet Bastas, son of Remmen, Prince of Twilight and the Telwyth Mael. [...] Who, over the course of a hundred and fifty years of life, not to mention nearly two years of my personal tutelage, has managed to avoid learning a few important facts.")
Bast = son of Remmen
(The question seemed to catch Bast unprepared. He stood still and awkward for a moment, all his fluid grace gone. For a moment it looked as if he might burst into tears. “What do I want? I just want my Reshi back.” His voice was quiet and lost. “I want him back the way he was.”)
(Bast likely doesn't know that his Reshi was a chandrian, given Felurian's reluctance to speak of them.)


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>>24958063
in a snippet of a story by scarpi, selitos and tehlu are seen to be on the same side opposing the chandrian. what makes you think cinder is menda or that reshi means grandfather?
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This guy is severely cringe, on his YouTube channel (where he was playing among us) he made a video saying that jk Rowling had "put lead into the water supply" by implying to children that there are certain "types of people" with her house system in Harry potter. It was "toxic" to do that.

So Rothfuss can't create true art because he has to worry about people's interpretation of it. He feels a great need to conform. He needs to write a generic ending to feel safe.

But did he know how it would end when he began? It was his first novel so he may have simply wrote it without knowing or expecting that it would become popular.

His prose style is quite hideous and overrated even though everyone acts like he's a genius. Le three silences!!!

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>The critique of culture is confronted with the last stage in the dialectic of culture and barbarism: to write a poem after Auschwitz is barbaric, and that corrodes also the knowledge which expresses why it has become impossible to write poetry today.

I found his reading of the Odyssey quite interesting

>[Odysseus] knows only two possibilities of escape. One he prescribes to his comrades. He plugs their ears with wax and orders them to row with all their might. Anyone who wishes to survive must not listen to the temptation of the irrecoverable, and is unable to listen only if he is unable to hear. Society has always made sure that this was the case. Workers must look ahead with alert concentration and ignore anything which lies to one side. The urge toward distraction must be grimly sublimated in redoubled exertions. Thus the workers are made practical. The other possibility Odysseus chooses for himself, the landowner, who has others to work for him. He listens, but does so while bound helplessly to the mast. … The bonds by which he has irrevocably fettered himself to praxis at the same time keep the Sirens at a distance from praxis: their lure is neutralized as a mere object of contemplation, as art. … Odysseus is represented in the sphere of work. Just as he cannot give way to the lure of self-abandonment, as owner he also forfeits participation in work and finally even control over it, while his companions, despite their closeness to things, cannot enjoy their work because it is performed under compulsion, in despair, with their senses forcibly stopped.

>The test she sets Odysseus concerns the immovable position of the marriage bed which her husband,
as a young man, had constructed around an olive tree, a symbol of the
unity of sex and property. With touching artfulness she refers to this bed
as if it could be moved from the spot, whereupon her husband, "flaring
up" and "rounding on" his wife, proceeds to give circumstantial account
of his durable amateur handiwork: as a prototypical bourgeois he is smart
enough to have a hobby. It consists in a resumption of the craft work from
which, within the framework of differentiated property relations, he has
long since been exempted. He enjoys this occupation, as his freedom to

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>>24958417
And the Resurrection was even more significant, but you'll never see any of these Shylocks admit to that.
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>>24958397
adorno managed to turn a revolutionary ideology into a new source of legitimacy for liberalism. he was comically wrong
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He was just trying to be poetic
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im skeptical of all of these freudian- or jungian -----esque attempts to undercover the secret meaning of some classical work, more often than not its just somebody reading too hard into it and inserting their own take into it

as for the "writing poetry after auschwitz is barbaric" quote which made chuds here seethe uncontrollably a few weeks back, i think its a fairly reasonable, even if tongue-in-cheek, take: within 30 years civil, european bourgeois society devolved twice into barbarism (and auschwitz is the best though certainly not only example) - after the war the same upper-middle class and the elite went back into making frivolous and circlejerky art

also what the fuck is this new captcha
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>>24958446
The irony is that Dadaism was meant to make a statement about the barbarism of such art after WWI, but ended up being assimilated by it

Share some books about law that you like. I am reading this one and really loving it.
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>>24956722
I was asking you
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>>24957340
I've never read the one you posted, this one on cross examination is the first book specifically about practicing law I've ever read.
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Lawyer here. Currently reading this. I'm two chapters in and it's fine so far, I suppose. I'm told it's a very influential book among civil trial lawyers.

OP, the answer to your question depends on what you mean by books "about" law. I was extremely underwhelmed by Wellman, but I read him expecting systematic cross-examination advice instead of a few hundred pages of anecdotes.
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Also: quick shelfpost. This is a shelf near my home office desk. I have more practice books on my desk (lol) and more at the office. Nearly every book on the top shelf is recommended for my fellow practitioners who try cases. I've never done transactional work for actual clients, so my suggestions on that front are limited (but not non-existent, if there's any interest here).

The books on the bottom right I haven't read; the books on the bottom left are at risk of being discarded due to deprecation or general shittiness. But I almost never get rid of books, so they'll probably be around for years to come.

The printout stacks in front are unread; those on the shelf are read but unfield. Mostly practice resources, but I think there are some historical articles and/or jurisprudence scholarly articles in there, too.
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>>24958157
>lawyer here


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