Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg>Previous:>>24753638 (Cross-thread)>Thread Question:You are thrown into the world of the last book you read. Where are you, what are you doing and what are your plans?
>>24786023It's dogshit.Too bad you started with Abercrombie's worst book by far. The Devils is what would happen if Rebecca Yarros tried to write The First Law series. Abercrombie has become a caricature of his former self. You should at least give The First Law series a shot. It's pretty good. The Devils and his attempt at a YA series are both notoriously bad.
>>24786023Oof. That's a wretched passage.
>>24786267Wretched as fuck.
>>24785181Wish fulfillment is an ingredient, not a whole meal unto itself. If the audience is too sensitive to tolerate any kind of obstacles, complications, hardships, etc in the narrative then the story will be flat and boring.
>>24786619>If the audience is too sensitive to tolerate any kind of obstacles, complications, hardships, etc in the narrativewhat kind of obstacles or complications are you referring to? As far as I know, the only "taboo" that exists within the space is the inclusion of cheating/NTR/etc plot elements, but I'd argue that most men in general just don't like that kind of shit - even outside of the haremlit genre.
>dude what if i made up a completely fake story in my head about the nature of men and tribal society>and what if people took these "insights" seriously and pretended like it was some great study into human nature >this is despite the fact that real life castaways have been empirically observed to behave peacefully>deep art btw
>>24786427>This was drilled into kids head to make them believe the lie that man is inherently evil, "his nature"i don't think that's the message, or at least grossly oversimplified. there are two main conflicting perspectives in the book those of jack and ralph. the book does make the point that jack's approach, while more morally repugnant to your typical reader, is more effective in drumming up support and consolidating power in desperate times, taking advatntage of a fearful population. which again, is not inaccurate to history. it's not just about kids on an island, it's an extended metaphor in which to explore authoritarianism, religion, etc. idk why i even need to explain this to a (presumably) adult man who reads a lot.
>>24786427As soon as society stopped drilling into their heads that humanity's nature is one of violence and theft, society started to welcome violent thieves.Curious.
>>24786550>As soon asIn documented instances, men and women who escape this prison camps, go on to live as we always have in the wilds. Violence? To hunt dinner. Thievery? Unheard of in such society. >>24786451It has been a while. I forgot its metaphorical point. The angle I complained about is just an extra implication. >jack's approach, while more morally repugnant Repugnance is repugnant.
>>24786599>we always have in the wilds. Violence? To hunt dinner. Thievery? Unheard of in such society.this is closer to the approach that ralph is representing in the book. meanwhile jack is ultimately creating a system of control closer to the coneption of "civilization" that you seem to have an issue with. jack's system is based around superstition/religion (literally what the title of the book is referring to) and creating/enforcing heirarchy.if anything you should love this book, or at least be able to read and analyze it through a lens that's closer to your worldview.
>>24786336Idk the ending always seemed like an ass pull. How did Moe even get there?
Is it good?Im just looking for something good. I read most of the classics already, I just wanna fall into something you know. Or I might read War and Peace. Whats the last good book you read that was a fine and pleasant read throughout?
i read it for my book group recently and disliked it. and i'm not just a woman writer hater - i quite liked poisonwood bible by the same author
>>24786340I liked the first 100 pages then lost all interest and read the wikipedia page. Feel like i read the good part and didnt miss out on a whole lot.
>>24786340It felt like the book form of Oscar bait. I found it annoyingly insincere.
>>24786340I loved it, but I also read David Copperfield when I was in middle school so it struck my nostalgia pretty hard.The ending is a little rushed though. I wish it had more of an epilogue.
>this is a book meant to be read slowly and savored
Schizophrenic or enlightened?
>>24783533>Why do you post this nitwit pedophile Freemason's tool hereDon't talk about Leon like that...
>>24783356I like having a more "chill" / slop book and a more complex one for different moods.
>>24783356I have different books for different places. Currently it'sBed - War and PeaceToilet - All the Pretty HorsesCommute - a book about the House of CapetLiving room - a young adult novel in Russian (trying to learn the language right now)That way I can always read wherever I am without having to actually carry a book with me. I also try to read in different languages as to not forget them.
I read 3-4 books at a time.1 that has some substance but isn't a project at lunch and other downtime, usually this is some kind of narrative nonfiction or genre fiction 1 or 2 that are meaty projects that I schedule an hour or two of exclusive reading time for after work or tackle on weekends, political, philosophy, literature, instructional1 mindless book that I read in bed to fall asleep, usually some kind of isekaislop light novel. Current stack is Let Him In, Life of an Amorous Woman w/ A History of Japan, and Ascendance of a Bookworm
>>24786631Amorous should be Genji but I burned out on it and needed a bit
Books on why 1993 stuck out as a particularly odd year in culture?
>>24785487I don't really think it does stick out as such an 'odd' year as you put it. What was so 'odd' about it? Your picrel: Heart Shaped Box was a decent song with an impressive music video, from what is probably Nirvana's best album. There was a handful of good albums other than In Utero; namely Siamese Dream, Bjork's Debut, and Wu Tang Clan's Enter the Wu Tang. Not many good films came out that year, Carlito's Way and True Romance are the only two that stick out. As for novels? Trainspotting was probably the book with the most impact, I guess Girl, Interruptted, and The Virgin Suicides too? But really all three books were overshadowed by their film adaptations.
>>24785487The grunge scene? Just enough and leisure time afforded to the youth coupled with cafe culture, this being just before Starbies ruined it, and the art that flourished was dismal and nihilistic, as if it knew it would fade away, get bought out and commercialized into nothing, AGAIN. Similar dynamics in the UK. They had their clubs and flash-mob unauthorized raves going around both US and UK. But again it was corporatized and flattened. "Civilization" snuffs out culture as soon as it sees it.
>>24786226>>24786315Mostly talking about how performative activism suddenly was in everyone's face that year.
>>24786315Are there any kino books about the British rave culture? I've always played with the idea of writing a novel inspired by the weird cult of Saturn that surfaced among the London rave scene in the 2000s but I wasn't around during that time and have never been much of a raver. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVyeesJAuNs
The state of literature in 2025 is beyond parody. https://archive.ph/0ZeJQ
>>24786567Believe it or not I was not looking for any particular answer. I just thought it was a perplexing thing to say that subject matter isn't important. I would opt to say it clearly is just based off how hesistant everyone is to give a quick and definitive answer to the question I've been asking.
>>24786478>masturbation can't be artPfft- caveman.
>>24786478If I jerk off to a painting of a naked woman, can it no longer be considered art?
>>24786573for both the "taboo content" requests you made, scat and children, you immediately got relevant quotes from a famous book everyone on this board has or pretends to have read, featuring both fucking a child and eating turds, and you just ignored it. people obviously do read well-written books despite shocking/odious subject matter. you haven't demonstrated shit.
>>24786598One guy went as far as to say that porn definitionally can't be considered literature to avoid saying yes. But yeah my bad bro. This is a cut and dry case. Everyone loves reading child porn.
Why do we never mention the library and always talk about pirating? It's like a legal form of pirating and you can watch cool movies too with Kanopy.It it a psyop to destroy trust in communities and make posters scared to leave the house?
>>24785927Sure, I could sit on the waiting list for a few weeks to borrow one of 3 physical copies of a book that's been passed around God knows how many filthy hands. Or worse, wait for the only ebook the library is allowed to loan out.Or in the time that it took me to write that sentence, I could download it onto my computer from the comfort of my own home.>Unless you exclusively read racist meme booksFunny how the leftist meme books are plentiful at the library, but suddenly the library becomes pro-censorship when it comes to radical right wing books.
>>24786486Who reads novels on a screen? The classics are hardly ever checked out anyway. You are a /pol/ tourist.>Boohoo there's this book about pregnancy in Bolivia but why can't there be a book about how the holocaust is a myth?Political correctness gone mad!
>>24784258You'd think that, until you met one.
>>24786511>why can't there be a book about how the holocaust is a myth?That's a really good question. I mean how many ancient alien books are there? That didn't happen.
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I'm convinced there is 2 versions of MurakamiOne where he puts effort into developing ideas and characters and Another where he wants to punish the reader for liking his novels
So it was all in Runciter's head, is that it? And was the real villain Jordy or Pam? And why is reincarnation mentioned so much? What's the point? Help me I'm dumb.
From what I remember, the protagonist is dead and in this world people can be kept in a stasis between life and death. That means that people from the outside can sort of contact them but not really. The protagonist is in this stasis world and it's being slowly corrupted by some fuckass boy that turns everything back in time. It turns out the boy is some form of entity and the protagonist used Ubik to fix things. If you read Androids dream of electric sheep, you'll find that he talks about kipple. At the end he throws a curveball insinuating that Runciter is also in this stasis chamber, but from what I read PKD rushed the ending.
It's been a while since I've read it, but the ending with Joe chip on the coin was pretty shit and was just a tacked on WHAT A TWEEST
>>24785222yeah it was pretty wack, but aside from that I do like this book a lot, reminds me of The Man Who Was Thursday
So, I love the look of having a huge collection, but it's not really needed with ereaders and such; and I couldn't afford it anyway. How hard would it be to make convincing fakes for display?
This is the saddest thing I've ever read on this site.
>>24786313I sell books on ebay and interior decorators buy "books by the foot/yard", which are valueless hardcovers purchased because their spines are a certain color. Pastel colors like pinks, purples, and yellows command a higher premium over most books in black, red, or blue (the more common colors). Truly, life is hell
>>24786313That amount of books would cost like 40,000 dollars
>>24786313You could probably buy a bunch of old used academic and intellectual type books off of the internet for cheap. You can buy an old complete set of will Durants story of civilization for a bit over 100 dollars on places like eBay.
>be gay hedonist>write definitive story of how being a gay hedonist ruins your life and destroys everything of beauty and value you touch>get your dick cut off and locked in a tower until you die>gay hedonists: "omg hes so based"I feel like the entire situation could have been handled better by all parties involved.
>>24786380>faggots love getting their prostates pounded.post hoc justification granted through porn obsession rather than anything grounded in reality. if the "g-spot" were a real phenomenon, fags would cum every time they take a shit.
>>24784920he literally fucked underaged boys named Mohammed in Algeria regularlyhe wasnt simply a "gay hedonist"he was a pedophile degenerateJust ebcause you like to tolerate gays doesnt make this subhuman one of your queer pets.
>>24786444you're so close to the truth, dude. so, so close. it's like the book. you open a door, they all open. relativism and its consequences.
>>24784920Did he really get his dick cut off?
>>24785699>Oscar Wilde is talentlessAre you an esl or genuinely retarded?
Unemployement: The book
>>24786200I suppose the issue is I said "you should beat the crap out of..." which is of course not what Hegel is literally saying, like this is some violent propaganda meant to inspire you to join Antifa or some shit. So I was facetiously quoting a facetious passage. But yes, Hegel had contempt for people who thought humanity could be understood in these sensuous modes which he catalogues and explodes one by one. Remember what he says at the end about the organ of urination and the organ of reproduction? Normally it is an insult to be called a wanker but here I'd be happy to be the wanker and let the other guy be the pisser.
>>24785635Do you want to be some cringe STEMfag, "oh yeah I did this little experiment uhh maybe in 50 years it will cure cancer in mice", or do you want to be Dr. Frankenstein? Out of context I can't tell exactly what he is on about but looks like a standard dialectical progression.
>>24785635I hope you realize you've just called niels bohr(and others) a pseud, given that nobody reads hegel for his incorrect remarks on electricity
>>24786588When did he call anyone a pseud?It's interesting that Hegel was aware of the philosophical problems in the quantification of reality and writes about them but didn't foresee the quantified hellscape we now inhabit. He may be wrong on the details but his treatment of math and science is criticism of quantification in general. Fichte and Kant fall under this line, even, with Fichte's third foundational principle, quantifiability, as he explains in the SoL. inb4 "Really? That's all you get from Hegel's treatment of math and science? Really?"
Hegel is just wrong. Thankfully, the world has gotten over him.
Satanic panic edition. Old >>24736100
>>24785710Ligotti appeals to zoomers who get filtered by BASED M.R James
>>24785718Lol
>>24785718I'm 32 and I enjoy both Ligotti and M.R. James.
I’m still pretty early on but so far I like this better than Between Two Fires. Maybe I’m just more into vampires in 1970s New York than I’m into medieval France with a child Joan of Arc stand in.
>>24783779sounds interesting! Thanks anon
I am writing a short story with my protag being a 36 year old married white woman HS Teacher that fucks her former student and likes driving also her only daughter just went off to college.
A sad shmuck who believed he doesn't fit in the world, for there is something inherently wrong with him that everyone can see except him. The world around him spins, and he still can't feel the warmth of the sun.I'll end it with a murder-suicide.
>>24784182>smutInto the trash it goes
>>24785993That sounds pretty interesting. Who does he kill?>>24786111Its not smut, and all the sex is implied. I genuinely can't write smut other than he put his penis into her vagina and then moved it in and out and then he came inside her the end.
>>24786133Why did you not pick a competent (straight) white male as your protag? Why did you have to pick a female and write that retarded slop you call a short story?>I genuinely can't writeNo shit, now kys.
>>24786258Damn bro, what did I do to piss you off so much?What's wrong with writing a straight white woman as my protagonist? I'm just missing one of your criteria. >No shit, now kys.You okay?
