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>fascism is le...bad?
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>>24786151
A peace prize actually. No competition this year anyways.
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>>24786160
>have you considered laying down and dying instead
For some reason not many takers when a fascist pulls up.
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>>24786140
Fascism is actually peaceful, it's the "democratic" states always pushing for war with them that causes conflict.
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>>24785880
Is that Fisher Stevens?
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>>24785880
So Depp

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What the fuck is wrong with James Joyce?
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>>24785709
We're above other species in most other ways, I mean we literally wear clothes retard. Why do muh dick retards not realise how embarrassing they are?
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>>24785776
what a reddit midwit jeez
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>>24785776
I mean, man could have replaced sex with cocaine very long ago but they made that illegal so pleasure still has to be sought the old-fashioned way.
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>>24777471
It's a thoroughly anti-semitic blood libelous depiction, yes yes
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>>24775722

What is this book?

I thought it was a retelling of the Trojan wars but set during the US Civil War...

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>went to buy classic 1980s fantasy paperbacks
>stuff that often have a 50 cent stamp from book stores
>"That will be $80 + fee + shipping + tip + tariffs"

Hipsters have destroyed the vintage book market and have made it impossible for us actual collectors to buy them at the proper price.

They are now charging obscene amounts of money for disposable fantasy trash market novels. Stuff that used to sell for 50 cents in used book stores, they are now demanding between $50-$100 per book because of all the youtube 'book haul' hipsters.
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>>24785744
Welcome to capitalism buddy, supply and demand is the #1 law of the universe, fuck your concerns.
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>>24786441
Look at /mu/. You can compare threads on the archive to now. It used to be the home of hipster culture on 4chan. That culture is completely dead.
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Holy wah wah wah shut up you fag my god
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>>24786454
>we should all be celebrating getting absolutely cucked
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Hipsterdom is so thoroughly dead that I can't even find the old "hipster is a meaningless perjorative" copypasta on the archive any more

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Why do we never mention the library and always talk about pirating? It's like a legal form of pirating and you can watch cool movies too with Kanopy.

It it a psyop to destroy trust in communities and make posters scared to leave the house?
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>>24786430
What the fuck are you talking about, there are stacks on stacks of classics. I've been to libraries in multiple cities and this was true in 0 of them. Do you go into a library and make a bee-line for the sections you know will piss you off or what?
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>>24785927
Sure, I could sit on the waiting list for a few weeks to borrow one of 3 physical copies of a book that's been passed around God knows how many filthy hands. Or worse, wait for the only ebook the library is allowed to loan out.
Or in the time that it took me to write that sentence, I could download it onto my computer from the comfort of my own home.
>Unless you exclusively read racist meme books
Funny how the leftist meme books are plentiful at the library, but suddenly the library becomes pro-censorship when it comes to radical right wing books.
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>>24786486
Who reads novels on a screen? The classics are hardly ever checked out anyway. You are a /pol/ tourist.
>Boohoo there's this book about pregnancy in Bolivia but why can't there be a book about how the holocaust is a myth?
Political correctness gone mad!
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>>24784258
You'd think that, until you met one.
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>>24786511
>why can't there be a book about how the holocaust is a myth?
That's a really good question. I mean how many ancient alien books are there? That didn't happen.

I would like to listen to the complete audiobook series of Animorphs, but don't have a $1000 to spend on it.

I like evelyn waugh
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He has a beautiful woman's name
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I read Brideshead Revisited and didn't really care for it much.
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>>24786387
His "Ordeal of Gilbert Pinfold" is the best first-person account of psychosis I've read. A deep cut but worth the read if you're into that, and it is on gutenberg. It's accurate and also funny.
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Havent read Evelyn but i remember him saying the Winston Smith should of drank and had sex with the proles in the bar instead of doing all the 1984 paranoia stuff.
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I loved Brideshead but I've heard it's not really reflective of his typical oeuvre. Has anybody read his Sword Of Honor trilogy? I've heard those are good books.

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Are there any other ideologies that formed due to a fundamental misunderstanding of another ideology?
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>>24780307
wow its almost like Judaism is a load of bullshit that doesnt worship the true god of the cosmos
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>>24778154
jesus was a galilean, which is in modern day lebanon. the word jew comes from the tribe of judah, which was south and where jerusalem lies.
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>>24782081
>for whatever reason got popular acceptance in Greece pretty quickly
why was that anyways? why were the Greeks so entranced by this particular cult of a priorly assumedly pretty insular Judean religion?

I remember the romans being pretty impressed by the long line of prophecies the jews had during the jewish revolt or something. did the greeks find the prophetic nature of jesus' teaching about a more universalist God appealingly in line with the growing neo-platonism in greece at the time? Or maybe to some degree saw themselves in the martyrdom of him to the roman state like how greece was conquered by them? Maybe the seleucid greeks had some degree of synchotism with judea that spread?
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>>24786035
Because it's literally "what if Greeks weren't gay: the philosophy".
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>>24786035
Its almost certainly because of its congruence with neoplatonism on major topics. Greeks theorized that Christ was the literal physical manifestation of the Logos, this eventually became commonly accepted.

Basically Christianity/Jesus lent to the Greeks what they assumed was proof of neoplatonic philosophy and it just fucking exploded from there.

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It's good.
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This book is really quite something special. It is truly unique. No book confounds the reader like this one.
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>>24784466
I wrote a really good novel that is a response to this book. You should read it.
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>>24784573
What is it?
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The Book of Mormon contains a claimed prophecy of John the Baptist saying Jesus' shoes he was not worthy to unloose. It is easy for a book that is retrospective to insert "prophecies" but what good is it as a secondary witness to Christ?
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>>24783718
The book used to funnel Africans directly into america?
Hmmmm, i wonder...

The Greeks? Philosophy, religion? Poetry?

Sure, I like them. And I'll read them too... just as soon as I finish this hideously entertaining novel.
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>the novel
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>>24786472
>The Greeks? Philosophy, religion? Poetry?

I actually don't enjoy these.

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Unemployement: The book
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>>24786050
>He says at least twice that you should beat the crap out of such a person to establish your autonomy as a free human being.
No he doesn't. If that's what you came away with from 322 and 339, then you're a sloppy reader.
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>>24786169
It's exactly what he says, it's a joke of course, and there is more going on here. You did this in the other thread too, I'll say something true about what is in a given section and then you'll try to say it's a shit reading because it isn't complete. But I'm not pretending to give a complete reading, to do that you would want to situate the movement in observing within Reason itself as the unrealized certainty of being all truth, tie it to other moments in which spirit externalizes itself, etc. You would want to make explicit the parallels here with the whole movement of consciousness -> self-consciousness, in particular. Or if you actually believe that Hegel didn't think it was retarded to understand human beings in terms of external, sensuous determinations then I don't know what to tell you, you need to read it again.
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>>24786200
I suppose the issue is I said "you should beat the crap out of..." which is of course not what Hegel is literally saying, like this is some violent propaganda meant to inspire you to join Antifa or some shit. So I was facetiously quoting a facetious passage. But yes, Hegel had contempt for people who thought humanity could be understood in these sensuous modes which he catalogues and explodes one by one. Remember what he says at the end about the organ of urination and the organ of reproduction? Normally it is an insult to be called a wanker but here I'd be happy to be the wanker and let the other guy be the pisser.
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>>24785635
Do you want to be some cringe STEMfag, "oh yeah I did this little experiment uhh maybe in 50 years it will cure cancer in mice", or do you want to be Dr. Frankenstein? Out of context I can't tell exactly what he is on about but looks like a standard dialectical progression.

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Having read V. and reading GR now, I find that these two - almost equal in the engagingness (fluctuations lie on personal preference) - can be differentiated as such:

David's prose is raw, conveys all awkwardness, doesn't skip details, feels vivid and relatable and overdescriptive in a funny way.

Tom's prose is like a dream, it's almost lucid, there are very touching and tangible moments, and there are very unclear and hazy ones. He sporadically jumps like a disjointed speech from a bad orator, but it beckons you to focus and feel good when you catch what he means. This was more unpleasant for me in V., but GR (with a dutiful editor) is much improved on that account.

Modern, post-modern and post-post-modern authors play with lucidity in their prose, which makes one all the more unhappy with the renewed unwillingness to play with it on the part of contemporary writers. My own country has been plagued by realism in it's novels up until Gospodinov (Time Shelter), excluding some quite poor attempts, which are massively studied in schools for their explicitly for their "unusualness".

I generalise quite a bit, of course, but what are your thoughts on the boring prose of moder novels - the "I woke up and the phone rang. I went and picked it up. I didn't know who was on the other side"s and such. The reason my compatriot poetry is that much better and emotionally moving is because it can't fall into the pit of boring, repetitive unoriginality. Though Rapi Kaurs and such do beg to differ...
>I don't have time to recheck for readability and coherence
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>>24786455
One must imagine a philosophically turbaned Pynchon and a greased slickbacked DFW…

Is it good?
Im just looking for something good. I read most of the classics already, I just wanna fall into something you know. Or I might read War and Peace.
Whats the last good book you read that was a fine and pleasant read throughout?
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i read it for my book group recently and disliked it. and i'm not just a woman writer hater - i quite liked poisonwood bible by the same author
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>>24786340
I liked the first 100 pages then lost all interest and read the wikipedia page. Feel like i read the good part and didnt miss out on a whole lot.
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>>24786340
It felt like the book form of Oscar bait. I found it annoyingly insincere.

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Plato advocated for more centralized system and unitary ideals; Aristotle advocated for political pluralism and a partnership of clans (which is the basis for a partnership of states in decentralized models).
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>>24784288
>americans have to use a word nobody uses (polity) to censor the word republic because they don't want Aristotle supporting drumpf
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>>24785074
>but the anons here keep dismissing this comparison and contrast between Aristotle and Plato because they don't take Plato's Republic for a book of political science.
Lol just wait one of them will pop up within an hour or two telling you it's all a metaphor, is ONLY about justice and the soul, and has absolutely nothing to do with politics whatsoever, and that you are a pseud for reading it this way, and will rip whatever quotes he can to pretend that it is somehow not about politics. Even though most of it is about politics and in both the Timaeus and the Laws he refers to it as concerning politics and the ideal state. I think they think they are smart/sophisticated readers by doing this but they are actually retarded.
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>>24785954
From what I have gathered, it is the Straussian reading.
George Klosko gives a defense of the political reading in a few essays, look him up.

George Klosko Essays:
Implementing the Ideal State

THE 'STRAUSSIAN' INTERPRETATION OF PLATO'S "REPUBLIC

Plato's Utopianism: The Political Content of the Early Dialogues
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>>24785938
???
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>>24785954
Where in Timaeus does Plato refer to it?

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Do you think your life will be more pleasant with anyone but me? Think about it!—Ah! certainly not!—Only with me can you be free. And since I swear to you that I will be kind from now on, that I deplore all my share of wrongs, that my mind is at last clear, that I truly love you—if you refuse to return, or to let me come to you, you are committing a crime, and you will repent of it for many years to come, through the loss of all freedom and torments perhaps even more dreadful than any you have known. After that, think back to what you were before you met me.

As for me, I am not going back to my mother’s; I am going to Paris, and I will try to leave by Monday evening. You will have forced me to sell all your clothes—I can do no otherwise. They are not yet sold: they will only be taken away on Monday morning. If you wish to write to me in Paris, address your letters to L. Forain, 289 rue Saint-Jacques, for A. Rimbaud. He will know my address.

Certainly, if your wife returns, I will not compromise you by writing to you—I will never write again.

The only true word is this: come back. I want to be with you; I love you. If you listen to this, you will show courage and a sincere spirit. Otherwise, I pity you. But I love you, I embrace you, and we shall see each other again.
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>>24785070
verlaine for not realizing that when you date a child they will act like a child.
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>>24785631
Je suis élu, je suis damné !
Un grand souffle inconnu m’entoure.
Ă” terreur ! Parce, Domine !

Quel Ange dur ainsi me bourre
Entre les épaules tandis
Que je m’envole aux Paradis ?

Fièvre adorablement maligne,
Bon délire, benoît effroi !
Je suis martyr et je suis roi,
Faucon je plane et je meurs cygne !

Toi le Jaloux qui m’as fait signe,

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>>24784467
>tfw even if one did, it wouldn't even be quarter as poignant, original and sincere
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>Why, yes. I am an intellectual because I like this literal animu character. You wouldn't understand.
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imagine kissing this

raiders raiding edition

ASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_Page
Blog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/
Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/
So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/
Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/
SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdy
General search: http://searcherr.work/
TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chapters

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If I get trips the fat man dies TONIGHT.
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>>24776487
why the fuck have you not read the best part of the series yet?
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>>24776493
Its more likely Jon Snow will have to marry the Other Queen and go with them to the Land of Always Winter.
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HOLY FUCK HE ANNOUNCED WINDS I CANT FUCKING BELIEVE IT
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>>24786439
>AND THEN I WOKE UP


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