Why does this book cause so much seethe?
>>24834781>instead discuss the actual topic of the book in OP.So what have you learned from your enemy anon? post passages so we may be convinced you aren't low IQ wignat
>>24830800>We
>>24830800>(((we)))
>>24835708Derail tactic. We know you are a seething yid.
>>24834290I think only the Hasidic believe that crap.
Now that we've all had time to read it, what do we think of it?
>>24832836Care to elaborate on that statement?
>>24832402That he's as Magyar as the Gabor sisters.
>>24833433Bump
I've come to the conclusion that this book suffers from its length. Pynchon was never really an adept short fiction writer, his ideas are too expansive to be divulged in anything less than dense, encyclopedic and episodic digressions. If the novel was at least another 100-150 pages long, I think more ideas could have had their loose ends tied up and Shadow Ticket could've been great.It's my own hang-up that, unfortunately, I don't agree with Pynchon's post-war morality and sensibility and he weighs heavily on those principles in this novel.
>>24835691huh
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>>24835643I mean it's up to you, a motivated one could just take his Xenophon's Anabasis and grind through it like a madman with just a dictionary and a grammar. But you're probably better off doing what most do, finish your reference book, maybe do some abridged reading/easy modern readers, then Xenophon.
>>24835643This is 2025. We have chatgpt now. You can take the most complex sentence, copy paste it into chatgpt, and have it explain it to you, beyond just a translation. It can be a slow process, because you might have to have it explain basic grammar, going backwards from the sentence. Chatgpt also makes mistakes.>>24835820>a grammarHow exactly would you do that?>finish your reference bookDo you know what "reference book" means? A reference book is not a book you read from cover to cover, but a book you look up things in like a dictionary or encyclopedia.
>>24835572This kills the ranieritranny
What would the antonym for the Latin word pathicus be, i.e. the word for a man who performs the active sexual role ("top") in a homosexual relationship? Is there maybe the Latin equivalent to eromenoi and erastai with similar connotations?Maybe fututor, pedico/pedicator, irrumator?
>>24835905Explain.
>>24831408That jawline could crush concrete
>>24831468False dichotomy. Both are/were wise to the woman question.
>>24831408More truth can be spoken in fiction.
>>24831468I've watched maybe 3 of clips of his videos in my whole life, but I'm certain he was a heavy reader. He's a bright (cynical) guy pretending to be a retard and say retarded things for money.
>>24831408Because we're in a lull phase of the business cycle.You may have noticed things again feel like the 90s and early 00s, where all popular media (tv, video games, movies, etc) has gone back to appealing to the absolute lowest brow-dragging retards/ is extremely low effort.We are now in the profit collection phase, where you now pay for all the kino you got durring the late 00s and 10s. The expensive streaming wars are over as are the mass consolidations of vidya. So its all dogshit, and will remain so for the next decade while normie dogs continue to salivate and pay when the dinner bell is rung.
So either it’s:>The true teachings of the historical Jesus (his exact words and intentions remembered in perfect clarity thanks to The Holy Spirit decades later).Or>St. Paul + the gospel writers making a bunch of shit up to cope about Roman authority and fantasizing about revenge on Rome that never came true after Jesus died.Which one?
>>24835680Like a hollywood blockbuster.>based on a true story
>>24834632Is it me or does that have two parts
>>24835761Three parts. But they are easy reads.
>>24832863>St Paul... Rome bad.. Revenge!!what tf are you talking about?
>>24832863Historical Jesus vs ahistorical Christ >in perfect clarity thanks to The Holy Spirit Christ is Love, and Christ is MindBrighten up our pond alight,Where we, sneeds, dwell by night,Half forgetting how or whyWe have cometh this well of tears,Straitjacketed into borrowed fears.Still we hold that holy spark—The knowing: light is born from dark.
Brazilian Portuguese or Portugal's?
>>24834568>>>/int/I think the Brazilian kind sounds better though
>>24834568Brazilian bunda is the only thing in this world that points towards the possibility a benevolent God, so you know your answer.
>>24834568Brazilian women (with penis)
>>24834568Angola's
>>24834568moortuguese is a broken spanish language
How many of you are incrementally working on the next big western novel?
Reading The Long Ships by Frans G. Bengtsson. I was really enjoying it, but then 3/4ths of the way through out of nowhere the main character gets cucked, completely out of the blue and the main character's wife seems completely out of character to make this happen. The main character's friend also gets cucked by the same guy, and that guy also is implied to have fucked every single woman that lives at the main character's farm/homestead.That character then ends up becoming a major supporting character and a friend to the protagonist.I just want to drop it now, but I'm close to the end.
That really touched a nerve, huh? Do you harbour feelings of enmity towards your wife's boyfriend?
>>24835869I didn't like it because Ylva, the main protagonist's wife, seemed out of character in the moment when she decides to cheat. It feels bad after a large part of the book was about the protagonist winning over Ylva's father, going away for a long time and then eventually reuniting with Ylva in this very sweet and funny scene where he love for him seemed so sincere..But then cuckoldry out of nowhere.
It's all about women isn't it? Everything else is just pointless distraction.
is this a man or a woman? can't tell https://youtu.be/TI6_bh4r5es?si=Jy0vPTOeyh64g2Oq
I'm new on this board. Are you guys usually this full of shit?
>>24835172
>>24835693embarrassing thread indeed.
Reminder: according to @zoomerortho312, taking pleasure in sex, even married sex, is a sin
What are some of your opinions which are verboten in literary history. Eg: Shakespeare sucks.My personal is that Robert Graves and Peter Green are better translators of Homer than Fagles, Fitzgerald or Chapman.
>>24835148Verboten is probably too strongly put to describe my opinion, but I absolutely fucking detest the heap of shit that is Salman Rushdie's Midnight's Children. The fact that this utter garbage won a Booker plus the Booker of Bookers is a bigger miracle than any goddamn magical realist anecdote in the story. Fatwa completely justified.
Dostoevsky is a good writer because of the substance. His actual writing often sucks.
Plot is at least as important as prose, if not more. But character matters more than both.
>>24835338>opinion of almost every non white personI'm not counting modern opinions. They are subversions.
>>24835548I despise Nabokov (that's my entry for you, op) but he was wright about Dosto being better as a playwright. What that means is that he is good at narrative not language.
Any novels about gymcels who inject tren and fuck transwomen?
Is there some kind of horror novel that touches on body modification with a post-marxist twist or anything like that? Feels appropriate seeing as how children as young as sixteen are hopping on anabolic steroids.
>>24835072are you saying that you are against children taking hormones?
>>24834994Plato apology.
>>24834994Castro, Muscle Man
>>24834994my diary, unfortunately desu
has anyone tried to read it whitout any guide? can you understand it propely? or is this a book you shouldn'tlook for 'understading', but only 'feeling the flow'?
>>24835825you get a surface level understanding, but like anything to really "get" it you need supplemental material
>>24835825Your first read should be without a guide unless you're reading it with other people. Then if you like it, go deeper. Simple as.
We're having a /lit/ meetup in New York this Thursday evening.Sick of shallow book talk and blank looks when you bring up serious literature or philosophy? If you’re in or near New York City, come to the NYC /lit/ meetup on Thursday, October 30th. We’re here for raw, unfiltered discussion. Meet in person and say what you mean.If you're interested email nyclitmeetup45@gmail and I'll give you the place and time.
>>24835068Hate to see it.
>>24834774>5 Jews a tranny and a nigger
>>24833605>>24833605Brooklyn is where the shit is going on
>>24832592I'll be going and I can confirm that I know transgenderism is a severe mental illness and a total lie in all instances without exception or nuance. It should be banned by all medical practitioners and normal transgender people should be fired or expelled for requesting to be treated as a gender that they are not nor will ever be.
>>24835821exactly
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>>24834598>fiction
>>24831113Nietzsche, in his marginalia scrawled near a passage about pedophilia amongst the Greeks condemned homophobia (really pederasty in this case) as well. There was a fascinating NYT article I read the other day about the large number of homosexual Trump supporters in Washington DC almost totally unfazed by the apparent contradiction in their support for a man who commands the loyalty of a significant portion of evangelical Christians that want to rescind the right of homosexuals to marry. Interestingly there are virtually no lesbian supporters of Donald Trump.
>>24835465Do you mean this one?>Natural-unnatural is nothing! The Greeks raised love of the same sex to the highest degree of ideality, they sanctioned the love of boys
>>24830792This is boring and gay. Show me the most bluepilled authors of all time.
>>24835444You wish, keep seething
For some reason nobody likes this book of dostoevesky. ive read TBK, idiot, crime punishment.
>>24831562Idk, it's the next one I'll read. I'm currently reading The Idiot. Started out well, very funny, and reminded me more of Balzac or Maupassant than what I was used to from Dostoevsky and what people usually say about him. But now it's just weird; weird people saying and doing weird things. Stuff just happens and I have no idea where this is going.
>>24833649The Idiot is objectively a poorly formatted and unwieldy book, but it is also my favourite because there is so much psycho social depth in every scene and character. Myshkin is essentially an autist trying to navigate the social milieu of urban Russia like some alien, his candidness clashes so hilariously with the calculated refinement of the rest of the cast of characters. Each scene is a whirlwind that goes on for too long but it is so mesmerising and funny to me. But yes, technically speaking, it is one of those indulgent works in need of an editor.
How would you rank Dostoyevsky biographies? I saw Grossman's today while I was out and might get it next time it's there but I've already read a good chunk of Joseph Frank's except for the last volume. Just how much material do they both cover? I imagine since Grossman's was first it's a little outdated, no?
>>24833668>poorly formatted and unwieldy bookIsn't that true for every Dostoevsky work?
>>24832110>you should kys nowthis will resonate with me better get started
