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>what if... the bad guy, um, like rapes and kills and such?
The Judge is a cartoony villain, something you'd find in an Alan Moore comic like The Killing Joke.
How does anyone take American letters seriously when you realise the entire McCarthy Universe (MCU) was just made to be a backend of Hollywood slop adaptations?
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>>24948673
>He was just an average kid, looking for some adventure
>But when adventure finds him . . .
>*cuts to The Kid (played by Finn Wolfhard) getting woken up on his horse* Wait, what's going on?
>*Glanton (played by Adam Sandler) is shaking him "Wake up, lazy bones! We're gonna sack this village!"*
>*cuts to wide shot of the Gang approaching the village (which is notably white, so as not to anger the Native American market) as dramatic BWOMMMMS play*
>*Suddenly, the dramatic tension cuts as one of the villagers shoots an arrow at Glanton's crotch, causing him to cringe*
>*The Judge (played by The Rock in white-face, for some easily marketable controversy) winces and goes "Ooooh, right in the Toadvine!"*
>*Cormac McCarthy himself rides up on a little indian war pony to say "'Nuff said!"*
>. . . he's gonna need some friends along the way.
>THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN
>This summer . . .
>*The kid yells "This desert is our home! We can't let the army take what's ours! Who's with me gang?" as everyone cheers*
>. . . the west . . .
>*shows The Kid and Toadvine (who is now played by Leslie Jones) beatboxing on their horses*

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>>24948666
>if villains do villainous things then they’re cartoony
You’re so stupid it hurts.
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>>24948693
Just because he hides behind purple prose and unusual punctuation doesn't mean this is any less Marvel coded:
>The Leonids it was called went flowing over the sky like strange fingers of light as woken gamecocks clucked and coyotes scattered bones amidst the wolves howling on the prairies where in those strange, clockless hours the mad moonlight cast milky spectres against the immense naked Caucasian neonate that jumped up and pirouetted with a screeching fiddle in his big white baby hands as the preacher violated in the livery of his own god the child.
>What's an egg Judge.
>An egg's what you get when a gamecock lays after resting with a hen.
>What's a hen Judge.
>A hen's what ye get when ye move out to Californy.
>What's a gamecock Judge.
>A gamecock's a suzerain.
>What's a suzerain Judge.
>A preacher that is a judge of all things. And like a judge he must make rules. And like a game, rules must ...
>They is four things in this world that can kill a man. Eggs, war, gamecocks, and whiskey.
>Nuff said, the Judge spat.
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>>24948666
The actual real flaw in BM is that all the plot points are mapped to a philosophy, and a rather unimpressive one at that. That is no way to write fiction

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So they adapted a Pynchon novel for film
I've never read Pynchon before but like
"One Battle After Another" - what the FUCK is this turbo jogger leftist power fanstasy bullshit?
I always realized Hollywood is a bunch left-leaning cucks but holy fuck they outdid themselves with this one.
The level of blatant propaganda is on par with fucking commie films of Stalin's era or something.
This guy made "There will be blood" and now this what the fuck. This movie doesn't even feel real, it's a caricature of a movie.

Tell me bros is Pynchon cringe plebbitor shit like that and not based? Le speaking truth to power
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It was definitely a fun watch but yes it was classic leftist punch nazis/this machine kills fascists LARP. Leftists always make my heart hurt a little bit - they are obsessed with violence and sex and are just truly unwell people. I have never known a leftist who led a good, normal, honest life. They are always dirty (unshowered, dirty apartments), they speak too much and ramble and say horrible things, they are very self-centered. They truly do wish death on people they don't like. They really do see their sexual pleasure (which is never normal: it always involves some form of shame, or some extra layer of dirt) as a virtue. They consistently invite chaos into their lives in small and big ways, they do not seek harmony or true love with anyone. this movie perfectly encapsulates their incoherent, unpleasant lives, and although you'll have a nice time watching it, it leaves you with that same soul aching you feel after hanging out with one
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So if you guys don't like this book what is it exactly that you DO read that is post modern? Do you read anything modern?
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>>24948690
what was postmodern about vineland?
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>>24948696
I came here to understand what people today read. You can't just answer the question can you?
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>>24948699
it's a poorly formed question.

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How do you learn to philosophize? I read philosophy books but i never learn to philosophize. I never learn to use those fancy words like epistomoleogoogy; i only learn what they kinda mean but i never have a sure feeling of it and have to look it up all the time.
Is philosophy only for high iq people? I feel utterly lost so much so i don't even bother to talk about it with other people.
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>How do you learn to philosophize? I read philosophy books but i never learn to philosophize.
Stop. Don't do it. You are potentially better than those who "philosophize" themselves into delusion.

Don't listen to anyone else in this thread.

Don't fall for any big new political trend, no matter how they brand themselves, either now or in the upcoming years.

Don't indulge in excessive desires.

Be aware of your own foolishness, and try your best to suppress it. An example is to be cautious when speaking about people or things, because they may be false.

Help those in need as much as possible and protect yourself.

These are the core philosophical messages you need.

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>>24948338
>>Don't indulge in excessive desires.
Edit, should be "don't indulge in excessive carnal desires".
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>>24946141
That's discursive thinking, to get to the bottom of things, throughoughly.
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>>24948338
this except vedanta unironically op
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scientific hobby doesn't help, because scientists seek special cases and exceptions to prove a general rule.
A philosopher does not look for special cases, he is already baffled by the most mundane everyday observations. Fake philosophers try to imitate this by "challenging status quo". But the real thaumazein is pure and innocent perplexity, without hidden political objectives. Inb4 muh Nietzsche, muh everybody has hidden will to power subconsciously pre-selecting his new concepts. If that was the case, no original philosophies would exist. They are rare, but not inexistent.
If you aren't naturally perplexed by everyday reality, don't try to philosophize, simple as

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I'm interested in a reading group focused on art books. Most you can get through your library if you can't afford them, or as PDF's from Anna'a Archive.

To start with I'd like to go with Umberto Eco's On Beauty, and then On Ugliness, but I open to alternative suggestions for our starting book.

The reading for the week will be posted Sunday if there are enough takers

If you want, although it's not necessary for participation, there will be linked to threads and so forth on the Criterion Club server under the visual-arts channel

https://discord.gg/XhFGx57VKm
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From On Beauty
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I would join probably, although I have never read any Eco, because I already think him to be a turbo midwit.

I also want to throw in Roger Scruton as a suggestion
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>>24946864
Both Scruton and Eco are midwits and both have an intricate understanding of art and aesthetics
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The entire docuseries is on youtube
https://youtu.be/J3ne7Udaetg?si=3Pup49Z5T9sCSU45
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>>24945775
bump

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And what size?
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>>24946347
Latin Modern Roman 20 when writing, 12 when exporting.
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>>24948276
>20 when writing, 12 when exporting
just zoom in dude
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>>24946557
He's right, Calibri looks like putrid shit
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>look at me, i'm a wolf. I have worms, ticks, lice and mange, i sleep in a muddy ditch and watch my sister getting fucked by the alpha male!
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>>24948298
I don't find Times New Roman very easy on the eyes for extended reading
I think the characters are too tall, there's not enough uniformity in stroke width
I find Sitka much more legible

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Which books should I read to best understand the argentinian soul?
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https://youtu.be/a6c9tj9dFMg

>>24948076
>NO CREES QUE, SI YO FUERA ARGENTINO, HUBIERA ESCRITO «SOMOS», EN VEZ DE «SON»?

https://youtu.be/x1jjDyOaKMk

>son ellos nosotros ustedes, vos sos


>>24948075
>you don't have to go that far. right across the border in chile they eat charqui.

https://youtu.be/C4ELzf0u7Q8?t=163


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Dios mío por qué siempre tiene que entrar un autista a postear puras citas? Si máquina, yo también puedo leer la fuente primaria
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>>24948076
yo creo que te estas haciendo el lindo.
que sos sino argentino?
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>>24943418
>>24945433
>>24947827
>>24946621
Do you any recs on italo-argentine writers instead?
Any kind of literature, not just about Argentina
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>>24948593
Cumgenius es Mexicano

Everything else just seems so spooked and retarded. Like these "philosophers" can't even see past their own circumstances or analyze their own thoughts and motivations, only (poorly) justify their own particular neuroses. Has there ever been a half decent attempt at addressing, let alone refuting him?
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>>24948046
then you obviously haven't heard of Ben Klassen.
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>>24948046
All billionaires are egoist
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>>24947750
So, Taoism?
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>>24948041
>ignoring the reality of the world and power...

Stirner didn't ignored nor denied it, he actually recognized it by what it is instead of justifying it with some bullshit pretext like law, politics or god.

He pierced through the bullshit like no other philosopher.
Other philosophers would have written a super mambo jambo salad of words just to not say "real power is whoever wields it". And that applies to property ownership too.

His writing style is shitty and chaotic though, but that doesn't diminishes the lucidity and accuracy of (some) of his ideas.

Spooks everywhere, you too got spook'd.

>>24947773

You too, spook. Your ego is a spook.
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>>24947731
You dont enjoy philosophy, you live it.

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>surcease

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I'm a published writer, but I only have a dozen or so publishing credits in magazines, and I am not getting anywhere in terms of recognition, so my plan is to play up how much of a minority I am. I want to shill myself as an underrepresented voice to get a brand or to at least make it look like I'm sidelined or suppressed by the establishment, in the hopes it garners sympathy. I think this will be a good business plan and, if I pull it off correctly, it may project me as the next big name in my genre (horror). After all, people are already saying Stephen King is an old white male, and his spot will need to be taken when he dies soon. I can use my mixed heritage (I am only half white but have middle eastern and indigenous ancestry), lived experience with mental illness (GAD, paranoid schizophrenia), and experimentation with homosexuality as an expression for LGBTQIA+ inclusion. Do any anons have experience in the game of publishing, or know which agents are looking for a horror writer with minority clout and has overlapping disabilities or stigma?
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post sample or fuck off
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>>24948614
I've already posted samples and people just seethe because I'm better than them.
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>>24948616
>source: none
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>>24948460
I think you should just try differente avenues, like, have you tried screenwriting, writing for comics, games? If you're a published writer you have a higher chance of getting a role in these fields.
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>>24948616
I come here every now and then and I've never "seethed" at anyone's work. I have however critiqued. And that makes the authors seethe pretty regularly. The problem isn't us. It's that you can't take any sort of criticism. And if you can't do that then don't expect to get anywhere brown boy.

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Just ordered this
What am I getting into?
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>>24946167
>and Jehoshaphat begat Lemuel who begat Erud who begat Aram who begat Samoch who begat Asraphal who begat Penuel who begat
Wow so beautiful and inspiring, let's turns to another passage
>he shall take a sheep of the flock a year old, and a hin of oil and a kor of flour, and he shall make a cake of the oil and he shall make a cake of the oil ans flour, of choice flour, to dedicate to the LORD as an offering, and he shall slaughter and prepare the lamb and the thigh he shall place on the fire as a burnt offering, of a pleasing odour to the LORD, and the priests shall burn the entrails thereof as an offering, but the flesh ans the forelimbs they shall cook as their own portion (continues for 100 pages)
Brilliant stuff, brings a tear to my eye
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>>24947336
>isn't everything after the gospels, maybe aside from revelation, just expository teachings OF the gospels?
Uh no? Paul never read the gospels, wtf are you talking about.
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>>24947413
Paul did meet Jesus, though. That encounter is so important there are three references to it in the Acts of the Apostles alone (Acts 9, Acts 22, Acts 26). Paul's meeting with the glorified Christ is the most significant event in world history outside of the gospels themselves. Have you people even read this book?
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>>24946190
Based, it's wildly out of date. Use the NRSVue instead
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>>24948219
Paul just heard a disembodied voice. It was more like a telephone call than anything.

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What's your reading plans for 2026?
Suggest a book to read in 2026 collectively. I'll add dubs (Jan to Sep, 11 to 99) and trips (Oct to Dec, 111 to 333) to the chart.
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>Alice in Numberland_ A Students' Guide to the Enjoyment of Mathematics - John Baylis, Rod Haggarty (1991)
>Anatomy of Mathematics, The - R. B. Kershner, L. R. Wilcox (1950)
>Fundamentals of Abstract Analysis - Andrew M. Gleason (1991)
>Mathematics_ Form and Function - Saunders Mac Lane (1986)
>Mathematics Made Difficult_ A Handbook for the Perplexed - Carl E. Linderholm (1971)
>Mathematics_ The Music of Reason - Jean A. Dieudonné (1992)
>The Mathematical Experience_ Study Edition - Philip J. Davis, Reuben Hersh, Elena Anne Marchisotto (2012)
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>>24948587
The Anatomy of Melancholy, What it is: With all the Kinds, Causes, Symptomes, Prognostickes, and Several Cures of it. In Three Maine Partitions with their several Sections, Members, and Subsections. Philosophically, Medicinally, Historically, Opened and Cut Up
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Rolling for Emile, or On Education since it's on my list.

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It is not exactly well known in modern circles but much of Hemingways writing had fetishistic undertones for the sexual fetishes be possessed. It is well known that in most of his novels the main women has some sort of ratchet short haircut. Lady Brett Ashley,Maria and Catherine Barkley all had very intense details on the short hair they had. Further most of his wives had short hair and it was a subject of contention for His first wife Hadley Richardson and a mainstay with his second Pauline. Further the topic of women on male anal stimulation comes up in some of his works but more overt. The garden of Eden book truly is the embodiment of the Hemingway sexuality. Hemingwaybros how do you cope with the great man’s man writer liking women with boy haircuts and getting his buddy tickled. Personally I enjoy it.
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>>24944831
>open up Hemingway novel
>he's self inserting as a cuck again
Bro... please, give me at least one 20th century modernist novel that doesn't involve cuckoldry, please....
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I had the same reaction.
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>>24944831
Based. I love Hemingway's writing, and I love women with short hair too.
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>>24948644
I hate women with short hair, but I like reading.
What is something short but sweet from the old Earnest? Then which is his best novel?
I have read Old man and the Sea.
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Farewell to Arms is his best novel. That said, Hemingway really shines most in his short stories. If you only read one thing by Hemingway, the Finca Vigia collection is the one to go with.

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I can't remember anything this guy said.
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>Consider, for example, the writings of the school of Schelling, and observe the constructions that are built up out of abstractions like finite and infinite—being, non-being, other being—activity, hindrance, product—determining, being determined, determinateness—limit, limiting, being limited—unity, plurality, multiplicity—identity, diversity, indifference—thinking, being, essence, &c. Not only does all that has been said above hold good of constructions out of such materials, but because an infinite amount can be thought through such wide abstractions, only very little indeed can be thought in them; they are empty husks. But thus the matter of the whole philosophising becomes astonishingly trifling and paltry, and hence arises that unutterable and excruciating tediousness which is characteristic of all such writings. If indeed I now chose to call to mind the way in which Hegel and his companions have abused such wide and empty abstractions, I should have to fear that both the reader and I myself would be ill; for the most nauseous tediousness hangs over the empty word-juggling of this loathsome philophaster.
t. Schopenhauer

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Any serious book that talks about the cult of ugliness of the modern world? The toxic positivity, the cacophony of clashing aesthetics, the laziness, and the deliberate effort to undermine purity, all masked by so-called moral virtues or freedom?
Looking at any vintage photo of a poor street, you see beauty in its uniformity -- much like the beauty found in a military parade. Yet now, even in the wealthiest streets, the only remaining beauty of the modern world can be found by gazing up at buildings that were constructed centuries ago, and that are all getting replaced.
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>>24946623
im with him, they dont even make a point, so subtle it's likely indicative of a fed post
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>>24946559
You should check out pic rel. It was mentioned by Evola in his essay "The Taste for Vulgarity", which you may also find worthwhile reading
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>>24947570
>sex
see this is your problem
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>>24948266
These seem good, will check them out. Thanks
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>>24946559
op, you can always migrate to north korea, they have state mandated haircuts and everything and a uniform, state mandated aesthetic for everything so as to not overload your little brain

What do you know about romantic poetry?
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>>24946672
Ok npc
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I'm not a fan
Poetry for me started with Baudelaire
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>>24946654
i think wordsworth just gave us a new tool, though adherence to those principles as a rule in poetry is ill-advised. when idea, theme, and image unite it is a beautiful thing.
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>>24946654
a bit overrated. the modern and metaphysical periods before were cooler


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