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Nothing but druggie babbling. When I read someone like Joyce, or Faulkner, I know I will be rewarded for putting in the effort to understand the more cryptic or difficult passages. Even if I do not at first fully comprehend a passage, their writing is beautiful and thought-provoking. But this is just schizophrenic babbling. Pynchon even admitted himself he just shit this out while he was le high.
Complete nonsense, waste of time.
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>>25012496
>let me complain about a notoriously hard book i didnt read/understand
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>filtered by Gravity's Rainbow
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>>25012521
This.

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Any good books on monarcho-socialism?
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>>25011799
It takes many forms, but the only successful socialist states have been authoritarian yes.
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>>25011799
All western states have socialist and capitalist components.
An army, for example, is a socialist organisation.
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>Czar Nicholas II, Comrade Number One, Supreme Chairman of the Imperial Communist Party of the Empire of Soviet Socialist States.
Needs a bit of tweaking but I'm liking the sound of it.
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>>25012404
During Soviet times they often looked back fondly to Tsarist rulers who fought off successfully foreign influence. Look at Eisenstein’s Ivan grozny for instance where sigismund ii is compared to Hitler.
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>>25012416
Russians crave, and have always been granted, a dictator who will dominate and abuse them.
They literally enjoy it. The Slavs are a cuck race. The clue is in the name.

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RIP

>Because of the title and content of The Vagina Monologues being body-centric, American University chose to change their production of it to a new show including all-original pieces, giving the production the name of Breaking Ground Monologues.[26] Although members of American University's Women's Initiative believe that the show was revolutionary in the 1990s, they concluded that equating having a vagina with being a woman is not an accurate display of womanhood in the 2010s, suggesting that The Vagina Monologues continues to perpetuate the gender binary and erase the identity of those who are genderqueer.[26]

>In 2015 a student organization at Mount Holyoke College canceled its annual performance of the play for being, in its opinion, insufficiently inclusive of transgender people. "At its core", Erin Murphy, the president of the school's theater group, said, "the show offers an extremely narrow perspective on what it means to be a woman. … Gender is a wide and varied experience, one that cannot simply be reduced to biological or anatomical distinctions, and many of us who have participated in the show have grown increasingly uncomfortable presenting material that is inherently reductionist and exclusive." The traditionally all-female college had begun admitting trans women the previous year, but the college denied that had anything to do with the decision to discontinue the annual performances of the play.[27]
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>>25012385
>Women can't have their own spaces or talk about their own experiences because of male encroachment.
Men remain undefeated.
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>>25012503
Literally the only female space was the vagina
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>>25012385
You must admit, the troons have truly stuck a poker up the arse of feminism.
You have to applaud that ... while simultaneously applauding their own suicide attempts.
Identity politics is eating itself, and it will make for a better world.
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>>25012514
Yeah and even that gets worn down by male encroachment lmao!

Not you though
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>>25012527
Thankfully

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Is it possible to evaluate poetry in translation? Should we even translate poetry?
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>>25012068
to expand on what I mean by "enjoyed and freely shared": willing, mutual, and active participation in the sharing of ideas and stories is the fundamental core of human culture. We learn from this cultural conversation, not the anthropological taking of stories with a tape recorder and translators.
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>>25011527
why would the dumbest racists talk about the dumbest races.
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>>25012511
To feel better about yourself, you must first look down on someone else.
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>>25012068
This is sort of like saying because no one can be optimally healthy, there is no serious difference being someone who eats healthy and runs five miles and a day versus someone who drunks two liters of vodka a day and only gets up to shit and eat
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>>25012061
Arberry wasn't a Muslim, he was a Christian professor of Arabic and Persian literature and did a lot of verse translations.

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>Dune is only 200,000 words long
Jesus Christ, that's impressive. It must be heavily condensed then, but you hardly feel it. It's as though it's bigger on the inside. It feels like a 400k epic but is only a little longer than Jane Eyre or something. Crazy skills by Old Herb'
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>>25012274
>coolstorybro
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>>25010856
>>Dune is only 200,000 words long
Holy fuck and it sure feels like it. The book is more than half interlocutions. It's incredibly tedious. Yeah cool worldbuilding and DUDE SHROOMS are cool but the delivery is just abysmal.
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>>25010856
Not really, the climax is way too rushed. Felt like the end of an Asimov novel not a epic battle.
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>>25010916
is this a new meme where you reply with this to every thread
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>>25012451
The climax is, and was intended to be, Dune Messiah.

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The only interesting book in 6 months of litterature studies courses was "the Lover" by Duras. And the only thing I got from it was a deepned sense of the importance of a strong father in the development of adolescent girls.
Well we did also read Ibsen. But while he is a good playwright, plays should be seen acted out, not read.
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HAPPY 4:20
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I'm too stoned for this man.
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>>25012466
apparently not
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Gonna do a bit of cheeky money laundering with gift cards and some fake Nazi memorabilia.

How do you narrow down what you want to read?
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>>25012467
I wanted to get this book but I too, have too many books as well.
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When I had a Kindle, I had a "To-read next" folder.
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Good idea.
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Read more. You must become a hambeast for reading

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I put some scriptural credibility challenges (https://write.as/dvfi4zeyotiky.md) to a Christian apologist on X some weeks ago. The usual rigmarole followed in which he first accused me of being either Indian or Jewish (to pre-emptively disqualify me? Somehow?) so I had to post a photo where I touch bologna. Then came the physique test, to which I replied both Aquinas & Lewis were fat, disqualifying their works by his own rule. So it went, throwing things at the wall to see if anything stuck that would spare him from having to attempt a proper answer. Finally, he grew exasperated and said "Look, argument is a waste of my time & yours. Just go read Mere Christianity, Lewis answered all your questions decades ago."

So I went and bought Mere Christianity. Leery, because this has happened before; a different apologist promised me my challenges were refuted in The Case for Christ, which turned out to be a snipe hunt; sending me off in search of something that wasn't there, to get rid of me without conceding. When I later confronted him, he was unremorseful, instead tickled that he'd tricked an atheist into reading so much apologetics. Then smoke bomb + ninja vanish.

Now I'm halfway through book 3 of 4, in Mere Christianity. Parts 1 & 2 purported to reconstruct something close to Christian doctrine from first principles, but amounts to projecting human morality onto the universe (denying it's reducible to instinct, socialization or the superego) plus Lewis' misunderstanding of what the big bang & evolution entail. These wrong turns then compound, baked in as foundational dependencies in his chain of reasoning, errors carried forward.

The greater problem however is that I'm now roughly halfway through the book, and there's no sign Lewis will ever address the credibility challenges I was promised he refutes. I begin to fear I was too trusting, and have been deceived by Christians a second time. I don't want to believe this is true, but the remaining chapter titles don't bode well. Should I conclude Christians are tricksters, and broadly untrustworthy?

Charitably, maybe he didn't know, having never read Mere Christianity himself. It's "The Big Famous Christian Apologetics Book" that always receives glowing recommendations, he might've naturally assumed it would cover everything. The enduring popularity of faith promoting hoaxes also testifies to a tendency in this crowd not to investigate the basis for their beliefs if there's reason for concern that what they might find would be injurious to their faith. If there is some book that actually does answer my challenges, what is it? Also, how can I trust that I'm not being given the runaround for a third time?

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>Rilke, Pushkin, Baudelaire and Rimbaud will never make it to /lit/'s top 100 because we are the literary equivalent of /sci/ being populated by guys who can't solve textbook ordinary differential equations

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>Old:
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>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
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>>25012347
>The Colonel has traded military intel to help the Bicamerals in their emerging war against the military who wants them wiped out.
There is no and can be no "war" between Bicamerals and whatever roach polity is beefing with them, anymore than Mr. MD broilers can war against humans, or humans can wage war on Rorschach and it's creators. We are explicitly told that they own pretty much the entire cutting edge tech in the world, and in such a way that roach polities recognize that ownership, allowing them to legally acquire interplanetary freighters at a moment notice from the very entity that "wants them wiped out", all as they surgically brainhack their own crew, or pinpoint-spawn natural disasters like Moses calling down the Plagues of Egypt, and they do all of it effortlessly. Lianna specifically points out to the terrified Bruks that unlike him, the Bicamerals do not concern themselves with what Bruks believes to be a "military conflict".

>The colonel has extensive military experience and could be of use
Such valuable experience, of roach stomping out other roaches, would be so tremendously useful in the priestly process of divine incarnation. So useful, in fact, that Bicamerals never consult Moore for anything and don't bother keeping him in the loop on any substantial developments. Oh, and of course, he ends up not actually contributing anything of use to the Bicamerals. Who are apparently smart enough to figure and precisely predict every smallest bit of his mind and motivation to know that this guy who was anxious to murder them just 15 minutes ago is not going to murder them the moment they turn their backs on him, but not smart enough to figure out that they are hiring a tribal hunter-gatherer for their quantum computing startup.

>Valerie is a 500IQ vampire who could probably offer some sort of help as well.
She's also an uncontrollable irrational psychopathic monster who immediately proves herself to be one, and never does anything to justify not just the risk, but the plain and evident cost of taking her aboard. One truly needs at least 8 kilos of tumorous neural tissue bulging his cranium to employ the advanced decision-making that allows one to see how "some sort of help" is worth sharing space with a deranged murder machine on your Most Important Divine Sacred Pilgrimage to God.

I can only guess that it's like their hands-washing thing, in that they decided to enhance their pilgrimage with a self-imposed obstacle and a ceremonial escort of a penitent soldier and a Whore of Babylon in addition to the sacrificial lamb, because the Biblical authenticity helps them think. Same as the ship's name.

>Don't know what else to say.
That's because we're really similar, you and I. You see, I also have no idea why Lianna is a character at all.
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>>25012472
My 2026 yearly calendar on my fridge is a Frazerta art work calendar. It's fucking gorgeous.
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>>25012494
>>25012347
That's the thing - a colonel, a zoologist and a sentient brain tumor walk into a bar. Watts started with an idea of a colorful cast of freaks chilling on a space station with Brain Clerics and that thing like he read about, and worked the rest back from there. But he did not work a lot. Hence the "series" currently being more dead than Culture.
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>>25012314
WoT

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Whoa, so this is the power of intellectual conservatism
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>>25010578
That in no way answered the question that anon posed. It was just more useless frothing at the mouth about events far out of your ability to influence in any way.
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>>25010578
I'm saying this because I love you. You need an exorcism.
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>>25010578
>the only mainstream social media platform that allows dissenting opinions is a top down USG psyop
there may be plenty of (private, likely not many statist) grifters on X, that much is certainly true. but unlike prior social media and traditional media outlets, you actually get to hear every opinion and think for yourself about what is the truth really is.

my view is, if you spend more time shitting on ordinary if sometimes foolish conservative proles rather than the progressive class of intellectuals and globalists, then whose side are you really on? make up your mind and dispense with this ideological confusion.
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>>25008629
Following the Chief. Knowing friends from enemies. For women - not traveling alone unless you want to get raped.
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>>25012149
They all belong to the same class. The only difference is “how do we socially engineer this globalized empire we have.” Progressives just happen to be much better at doing that. Elon buying twitter was the most significant shift in conservatism in many decades

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if you're a misanthrope or pessimist, you're lowkey just oversensitive
that's the main thing I have picked up from reading them
>oh no a heccin BAD THING happened, how could life be so heccin cruel
get over it you gay emotional pussy
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>>25011713
the danger is never feeling too much, it’s teaching ourselves, and each other, to feel nothing at all.
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>>25011713
Yeah so what? What are you gonna do about it you big bad stoic?
Oh no am I acting illogically? Irrationally? That's right I have emotions and you're gonna have to deal with em.
What are you gonna do? Sit there calmly? Ooh I'm so scared. You know I'm feeling a little moody today. Think I might just have a psychotic break over the cruel unfeeling nature of the universe and ruin your whole day.
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>>25012365
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
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>>25012329
We need to make female circumcision legal in the west
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>>25011713
Slit your throat, kike.

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the more machiavellian/manipulative the better
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>>25011162
I don't think you get it. Without spergs holding up the infrastructure society would fall apart in seconds. You should be thanking us instead of criticizing us.
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>>25012281
it’s not intelligence it’s intuition.
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>>25012067
models is poor because the author is a rich kid turned passport bro giving out some strange ideas that may have only worked from his position in life.
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>>25012056
that is a hard book to find
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>>25010725
>best books to pick up women?
Starting Strength.

The results of the 2025 poll for /lit/'s Top 100 books.
It was a lot of work running the polls and making the chart, but it's worth it to keep this board's annual tradition alive. Thanks for voting!
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>>25004995
I am very glad of this top 100 list. Another successful year. It will be a sad and dire time when /lit/ is eventually overrun by gender neutrals who vote for any book as long as it’s completely ridiculous.

And, Lord of The Rings is a masterpiece of literature. Deal with it.
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>>25009817
Da De Ching has been on and off the bottom 50 over the years. Other than that I can't think of any to make the list besides last year
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the Schocken Metamorphosis is bad and is still the Muir translation, Oxford's translation is far more accurate, I also prefer Oxford's Amerika. Although Schocken's revised translation of the Trial based on the original text is quite nice. Not perfect but it does the best for at preserving the German grammar which is fundamental to the humor of the story
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>ZERO non English poetry except for The Iliad, the Odyssey, the Aeneid, the Divine Comedy and Faust

In short, only poetry known well in translation

No wonder this monolingual board is so brainrotted


Monolingual brainrot is what is killing this board
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I got 49. I plan to read Myth of Sisyphus and Faust this year. So I should be over 50 percent by the end of the year

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Thoughts?
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Good hard boiled story. Would have been better without the gay stuff but gays just gotta gay.
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>>25012488
>character named "The Fag"
Lol I love it. Also I'm learning so much 1940s hipster vernacular. Totally did not know they called a drunk a "lush" in NYC. Had to look up what a "stool pigeon" was too.
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His only good book


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