>Dune is only 200,000 words longJesus Christ, that's impressive. It must be heavily condensed then, but you hardly feel it. It's as though it's bigger on the inside. It feels like a 400k epic but is only a little longer than Jane Eyre or something. Crazy skills by Old Herb'
>>25010856Nice blog post faggot.
>>25010856Yeah it's genuinely impressive how efficient the world building and philosophical themes are conveyed. The first book excels at leaving just enough vague to be mysterious while telling you a still compelling universal story. Unfortunately some of the magic is lost in the sequels in this regard as they all feel small in comparison, despite the scale of the story being technically larger. I like God Emperor but honestly think heretics of dune might be the worst book I've ever read and genuinely made me realise Frank might not have understood the concepts he referenced as much as he had previously led on.
>>25010987What was especially bad about Heretics?
>>25010856I don't care for dune
>>25012274>coolstorybro
>I'M ERU ILÚVATAR / YAHWEH>I'M GONNA GIVE NPD TO MELKOR AND OCD TO MAIRON>I'M GONNA ALLOW PEDOPHILIA, CANNIBALISM AND OTHER AWFUL THINGS TO IMPROOOVE MY CREATION>NOOO, HUMANS CAN'T BECOME IMMORTAL>I'M NUUUKING NÚMENOR>YEAH, FËANOR RETAKE THE SILMARILS AND SUFFER, YOU'RE MY BITCHBravo, Tolkien.
>>25011753Why did G-d make some people pedophiles? This isn’t even a matter of free will, as normal people don’t have pedophilic urges that they need to fight because they inherently find the act disgusting and totally unappealing. For most humans there is nothing to resist becuase there is no temptation, except for the portion of the population that G-d made to want to rape children for some reason
>>25011753Gurmfags SEETHING.
>>25011753basedtolkien was a retard
>>25012134There is an extensive list of sins recorded in the Bible, and pedophilia is notably not one of them.
>>25012297For most of history it was totally legit to marry a twelve year-old girl.
Any good books on monarcho-socialism?
>>25010142All socialist societies are de facto monarchies.
>>25010208Kim Jong Un is supreme leader which is largely a symbolic title. The actual guy passing ordinances and laws, the premiere of the WPK is some guy you likely never heard of.
>>25010182It's well established. In fact, it's the only way to achieve socialism since liberals co opted communist movements.
>>25011799It takes many forms, but the only successful socialist states have been authoritarian yes.
>>25011799All western states have socialist and capitalist components.An army, for example, is a socialist organisation.
Privacy by Danielle Chelosky (new story!)>A folder on her laptop held the stories she was not allowed to publish. One boy forbade her because there was an entire paragraph about his dick size (it was complimentary, she didn’t understand the problem). Another was worried his girlfriend would end up finding it. Another said he would cancel her for invasion of privacy. >These were rare instances. Mostly boys were flattered, considered it an ego boost, no matter how they were portrayed. People in general liked to be immortalized. In a way, she resented their narcissism, like they couldn’t appreciate what she’d written because they were just staring at themselves.>The truth was whatever reaction the boys offered was not what she wanted, even if they lavished her with praise, called her a genius, it was never enough. She thought of writing as not just a plea to be seen but a plea to be loved. It never seemed to have the effect that she yearned for, probably because it was impossible. Maybe, she thought, if she killed herself then her words would take on a new, heavier meaning.>She used to think that a boy being mad about a story she’d written about him meant the writing had done its job. It touched a nerve; it was controversial and had a direct impact on real life. Then she decided that mindset was banal, stupid. She thought her writing was at its weakest when it was a weapon.>On the internet she stalked a writer she had once done a literary reading with. During the reading he had spoken candidly about his sex addiction, and his girlfriend at the time stomped off. Now he was dating a different writer and they were constantly writing about their relationship, hosting readings where they read about each other with each other, publishing the history of their love in glossy magazines that paid by the word. She felt put off by this masturbatory spectacle. Like she couldn’t imagine anyone caring about it or finding it as anything other than insufferable. She wondered how one could make interesting art if they viewed their life as a project—then isn’t the project about the project, not about life?
>>25008907>you have to live by my rulesFuck off, Sheikh.
>>25009250Ooh touched a nerve didn't I? I bet they all dumped you too.
>>25008868>pretending he doesn't know how to sage just to keep his bait thread aliveSad!
Well Danielleheads, our thread has come to an end after three weeks. I'll see my fellow Danielle worshippers in February when we'll have a new thread!
>>25011285Word on the street is Danielle has a new story coming out soon. She's simply waiting for her twitter shadowban to be over so it can get more views on twitter. So we might be seeing Danielle back on the 'log pretty soon!
Severian gets way too much pussy for me to self insert as him, and for that reason I'm out.
>>25009923Stupid fuck. He's only "unreliable" as a narrator because he's led a sheltered life, and doesn't understand everything that goes on. Technology, in particular, is a mystery to him.
>>25009795>for nothingServerian is tall, strong, youthful and apparently of noble bearing. He also has that association with death that women find irresistible.He's the ultimate bad boy. No wonder the chicks throw themselves at him.
>>25009720He really doesn't get that many pussy at all. The ones he gets are from women who hate him, use him, or have no better option.
>>25011851You haven't read him. Neck yourself.
>>25012057Kek
Discuss good narrative history books on any subject.>1776 is a nonfiction historical account written by David McCullough and published in 2005 by Simon & Schuster, focusing on the military campaigns of the American Revolutionary War during that pivotal year, particularly General George Washington's leadership of the Continental Army against British forces under General William Howe.https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77347.1776https://www.audible.com/pd/1776-Audiobook/B002V8KSTW
>>25011106Wrong.
Conquistador: Hernán Cortés, King Montezuma, and the Last Stand of the Aztecs by Buddy Levy>It was a moment unique in human history, the face-to-face meeting between two men from civilizations a world apart. Only one would survive the encounter. In 1519, Hernán Cortés arrived on the shores of Mexico with a roughshod crew of adventurers and the intent to expand the Spanish empire. Along the way, this brash and roguish conquistador schemed to convert the native inhabitants to Catholicism and carry off a fortune in gold. That he saw nothing paradoxical in his intentions is one of the most remarkable—and tragic—aspects of this unforgettable story of conquest.>In Tenochtitlán, the famed City of Dreams, Cortés met his Aztec counterpart, Montezuma: king, divinity, ruler of fifteen million people, and commander of the most powerful military machine in the Americas. Yet in less than two years, Cortés defeated the entire Aztec nation in one of the most astonishing military campaigns ever waged. Sometimes outnumbered in battle thousands-to-one, Cortés repeatedly beat seemingly impossible odds.https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2774104-conquistador
The Great Siege: Malta 1565 by Ernle Bradford>Malta, then one of the easternmost bastions of Christendom, was attacked in 1565 by the Sultan of Turkey with 200 ships and 40,000 men. This dramatic account, based on the historical records, tells how six or seven hundred Knights of St. John, with some 9,000 men, defended the little island during one of the most famous and crucial sieges in history.https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2547394.The_Great_Siege
>>25000622Thanks.
>>25006269More stuff around this time period?
the more machiavellian/manipulative the better
>>25012071you really had to check the wiki to find out if ‘roosh valizadeh’ wasn’t 100% american?
>>25010946Women aren't intelligent enough to do that.
>>25011159Or you can just rape her.
>>25011162I don't think you get it. Without spergs holding up the infrastructure society would fall apart in seconds. You should be thanking us instead of criticizing us.
>>25012281it’s not intelligence it’s intuition.
ITT: post good secondary literature. I'll start
>>25010766Isn't this the guy that thinks writing tweets is more important than playing with his son?
>>25011089Same guyHe has a chapter in this book about how ideology heritability studies justify reading Deleuze as a secret neoreactionary lol>Let us consider a psycho-biographical approach to understanding the ideological valence of Deleuze’s thought. Political ideologies are known to be heritable — probably somewhere between 30% and 60% heritable (Hatemi et al. 2014) — so an author’s family background must provide at least some clues about an author’s ideological center of gravity.>According to the joint biography of Deleuze and Guattari by Françoise Dosse (Dosse 2011, 89), both of Deleuze’s parents were ideologically conservative. Louis Deleuze was an engineer and small-business owner, before he closed-up shop to become an employee of a large aerospace engineering firm. Louis disliked the Popular Front, the left-wing coalition that came to power in 1936, instead favoring a relatively small paramilitary party known as the Croix-de-Feu. Originally consisting of World War I veterans, this faction was financially supported by French millionaire and benefactor of Mussolini>After the Popular Front came to power, Louis and his wife, Odette, were horrified by the empowerment of working-class people. The Popular Front passed policies such as mandatory paid vacations for all workers. Gilles recalls Louis and Odette disgusted to find working-class people on the beaches of Deauville, where the Deleuze family vacationed in Normandy. “My mother, who was surely the best of women, said that it was impossible to go to a beach with people like that on it”
>>25010766I never got around to this. It always looked like e-celeb 2017 era culture war shit to me.
>In short, I suspect that Deleuze chose to work with Guattari because Guattari was slightly retarded. Guattari was smart, but always falling deep into activist delusions & depressively disordered thinking. Deleuze was leading by example: support and create with the downtrodden, the sad, the failed, and the mentally ill, etc. — just never join their groups. Don’t flatter their sins, and do not under any conditions allow yourself to be roped into their clutches.The very notion of a “Deleuze-Guattari collaboration” must therefore be revised. It was not so much a collaboration as a pedagogical sponsorship by Deleuze, an experiment in tutelage based on a political ethic of Christian charity. Stable genius Deleuze knows privately that this gifted but depressive, womanizing, socially liberal activist is doomed to personal and philosophical dissoluteness, but he — a based husband & father — would turn the boy’s ideas into something special.If only there was a Deleuze to Murphy's Guattari!
>>25011089He has the same first name as me
Holy fuck...
>>25011053>jews are based. why else would they be hated?so true, trans xister. you go girl!
>>25010806in this photo he looks a little bit more judaic
>>25011893Yes, all yids look the same.-t also assumed it was Freud
>>25012156Their eye area is nothing alike. I would never confuse one for the other.
>>25011187He's very hard to understand. I own Ideas and a lot of it flew over my head.
>creates the current fantasy genre and its never-dying cliches>can create cool languages and comfy regions, realms>ruin it all by adding "absolute good vs absolute evil" mythos>technological progress is unironically bad, he didn't know about SOLARpunk>the all-creator, Eru Ilúvatar, has no problem in watching kids being rape / eat for millennia>Eru just intervenes to rape humans that just wanted to evolve their species, and also nuke their island>Eru gave narcissism to Melkor and OCD to Mairon and ruined their lives for all eternity so they could "improve his creation" Wtf was wrong with him?
>>25011964Sam Gamgee got thirteen children from somewhere. Let's see if you can join the dots. Concentrate now ...
>>25011930>he didn't know about SOLARpunkNeither do I. Who the fuck needs to know about it.
>>25012015>Biblical Magi are good guys for exampleYes and no. Yahweh expressly forbade divination, but was apparently fine with the Christmas thing. I guess he changed his mind.
>>25012015The Magi were Persian fire-worshippers btw.
Reading LotR for the first time since childhood right now. I think it works on account of the quality of the prose. It's also well plotted, lots of things happening quickly.I feel like critiques of Tolkien focus too much on criticisizing the mythology, doesn't seem very fruitful. But one aspect I enjoy is the melancholic feeling of the fallen world the characters inhabit. The ancient golden age you are constantly reminded of is over and there's no going back to it. Everything old is dying etc. And there is a device similar to what's happening in the Nibelungenlied, where you are regularly reminded that things will turn bad. A lot of paragraphs or chapters end by remarking that a character would never see some place or person again, can't journey back.I also don't feel like the triumph over evil is as clear cut as it is sometimes made out to be, but I still have to get to the ending. Do agree that the Shire seems out of place in some details and the whole thing is asexual. I found the parts that lean into horror (Ring Wraiths, Moria) most enjoyable so far
Just finished the book after having seen the movie about three times. Loved the movie and loved Blood Meridian so I figured I'd give the book a try. Jesus, the book blew the movie out of the water. Did anyone else think the movie sanitized some of the more modern aspects of the book? I felt like a lot of the comments about modern America were taken out / removed from the book. Thoughts?
How do you guys read?No seriously,*how* do you guys read?No matter what position I try, it all hurts after a few minutes or gets uncomfortable. How do you find a comfy reading position. I've tried like dozens of poses and positions with no results and reading sucks because of it.
>>25012139On a couch with the feet against my close standing table and a pillow under my lower back. Hand that is holding the book resting on the bend leg. Very comfortable even after a few hours. On a chair at the desk. Like in school and stuff. To take notes. Sadly I have huge pain in my lower back because of it. Couldn't even put on my socks after waking up, because it hurt so much. Had to "warm up" for a few hours before I could do it. I am only 21. Fuck that shit. Even had problems wiping my ass.
All your gay reader life needs
Like the Nike logo with my head way down on my shitty hard chair and my feet being high up on the table.
>>25012139In bed, lying down. Either with the book/pad on the side, or with it in my hands in my lap.Huge advantage, when I start droping the pad/book on my head/chest, I know it's time to brush my teeth and go to sleep.I guess it's mostly a habit from 8 years of sneak-reading after bedtime during my childhood.
>>25012139Like this. Otherwise I got sleepy after half an hour.
>Your age>The last book you finished and your thoughts on it>The book you're currently reading and your thoughts on that
>old>Jakob Von GuntenWhile I mostly enjoyed this, I found it very hard to get into Jakob's head. I felt like he was bullshitting me as well as everyone around him the entire time, which I think is a mark of how alien I find the desire for servitude. I also couldn't stop thinking of Ferdydurke and Zero de conduite while I was reading it. Someday I will re-read it.>UbikOnly a few pages in, had quite a giggle at the story beginning in the sweltering summer of 1992.
>>25011144>Some of the other parts ended up being comically violentit was written as shock value literature for Roman sensitivities
>30>We Have Always Lived in the Castle>nothing atm, open to recs, I like mysteries
>>24991290>38>Brown girl dreaming - Jaqueline Woodson6/10 I guess this stuff is more tolerable in verse than prose, still the same old black people stuff. Not recomended unless assigned to you in litterary studies.>Die Vervandlung - Franz Kafkaidk I just started, but it's my first book by him and he's hyped so I'm hopeful.
>>25000696>67>I don't rememberYou ran North Jersey
I love this guy
>>25011558>His philosophy is a rejection of Hegel. It’s called a spook because it is mocking the Hegelian concept of spirit. Most of his work is mocking Hegel, actually.stirner was verifiably a young hegelian, and part of the goals of the young hegelians was to minimize the role of geist (hence why stirner calls things "spooks" as a tongue-in-cheek reference).>Stirner was very clearly a materialist.stirner's philosophy can be either solipsistic or dialectical materialist depending on who you ask, but his philosophy is definitely idealist in the sense it deals entirely in the realm of abstractions and overly concerns itself with social discourse rather than innate human qualities.>Tabula Rasa is a phrase that means something elseright, he just borrowed the idea and used it to describe his creative nothing then.stirner is still steeped in the same western tradition that crafts dualities between object and subject through discursive reasoning, whereas UG says its all bullshit.
>>25007282Is he worth reading
>>25010396>>25012063>OOOO THE SELF DON'T EXISTTT!!! YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING!!!! THOUGHTS ARE A LE PRISON (for a self which does not exist), SO YOU (who doesn't exist) SHOULD STOP THINKING OR DOING PHILOSOPHY (which you (who doesn't exist) can't do)>here are some books I published on my ideas btw. I hope you (who doesn''t exist) doesn't follow them because thinking is badTotal hack. A conman with schizophrenic delusions of grandeur. Philosophical tsundere.He wants to appear as some enlightened anti-guru while actually taking the position of a public figure and guru. It is exceedingly easy to be obscure if that is what you actually want. But he doesn't want that. He wants to be seen by the public as a wise guru, and his method of achieving that is vehemently denying that he is teaching you anything while handing you his books and ideas. I mean, really. Does anyone actually believe that this guy traveled around the world looking for people to not speak with? It's nonsensical.The shit he slops out said has been said better a million times by the same people he decries. Except if he acknowledged that, it would destroy his position as an enlightened guru that he supposedly rejects. The only way to maintain the cult of personality is rabid insistence that he is different from people who said the same things as him. Except this obnoxious, disingenuous insistence that he is not the same is the only "new" thing he has to say.He has nothing to do with Stirner in particular except that Stirner engages in thinking and U.G. (supposedly) denies thinking and everyone who does.
>>25007908To a Stirner maybe.
>>25012063>is definitely idealist in the sense it deals entirely in the realm of abstractionswrong“I am no opponent of criticism. I am no dogmatist, and do not feelmyself touched by the critic's tooth with which he tears the dogmatistto pieces. If I were a 'dogmatist', I should place at the head a dogma,a thought, an idea, a principle, and should complete this as a 'systematist', spinning it out to a system, a structure of thought. Conversely,if I were a critic, an opponent of the dogmatist, I should carry on thefight of free thinking against the enthralling thought, I should defendthinking against what was thought. But I am neither the championof a thought nor the champion of thinking; for 'I', from whom I start,am not a thought, nor do I consist in thinking. Against me, theunnameable, the realm of thoughts, thinking, and mind is shattered.” -- Stirner, The Ego and Its Own
So obviously this needs to be read in translation unless you have the kind of autism, and determination, necessary to study old English; but what translation? I have a predilection for any translation that stands out as a literary touchstone in its own right, like Pope’s Iliad or Golding’s Metamorphoses, so, if you can, make a recommendation in that vein.
Raffel’s
Michael Alexander’sThis was used by Penguin in their 1973 Penguin Classics edition
>>25010564
Rabsamen’s>imitates original's poetic form as closely as possible, with alliterative half-lines; seven prose sections interrupt the translation, instead of using footnotes
Headley’s “New Verse Translation”
