Bakker being deep editionHere we discuss any kind of science fiction and fantasy.>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
>>25184894I really like that the Dunyain are presented as even more mysterious, enigmatic and unknowable than the Consult, Inchoroi and Golgotterath.
>>25184998>so at no point do we ever get any inkling of why the Dûnyain find one outcome more worthy of choice than any otherThis happens though. They talk a bit about it in TTT and it's an important point in the later books in the sequel series.
Has anyone read this?
>>25185083Bakker screencap blogposter is reading this rn iirc
>>25185057Where? The closest thing I recall is an appeal to self-movement, but then when paired with the idea that nothing is good or bad or any more or less worthy of choice, self-movement is irrelevant.Actually, come to think of it, basically every character who isn't just being manipulated has their entire motivation/raison d'être come down to "just because, muh sheer will."I think the problem is this, Scott is running off a bunch of metaphysical assumptions that come out of Christianity (particularly Protestantism) and then trying to blend back in stuff the feels antique. But it doesn't work. He's accepting the Humean premises that lead to: "reason is and ought only be the slave of the passions," but then has his supermen accepting these premises (because of course the smart guys believe what he believes) and yet spouting off Stoic and Platonist platitudes that make no sense paired with this.On top of that, he wants to layer in magic and gods, which makes the entire assumptions of mechanistic causality seem obviously wrong. So funny enough, here >>25184891 Moe rants about the dogmatism of the World Born, then immediately begins restating Dunyain dogma (which is one-way mechanistic causality), even though the topic of debate, prophecy, actually works fine with mechanistic causality because retro causality would be empirically indiscernible from its opposite. It just ends up looking like the author restating his own dogmas (which is particularly clear in Neuropath) and then refusing to challenge those assumptions in the slightest because anyone who disagrees is presented as an easily manipulated cuckold led by delusions (while accepting the author's dogmas turns people into power fantasy ubermen).
I didn't sign no "social contract".
>>25183779Your dad signed it for youHe wrote it in cum on the dotted line of your mother's cunt,And then rolled over and went to sleep.
>>25184329based begetter>>25183779triggered tot
a contract only binds you in as far as you care for the consequences of breaking it
>>25183779Damn straight, brother.
>>25183819Take it up with the Supreme Court
This might be the last Aristotle topic that is still vexing to me, but how exactly does the Unmoved Mover work as a first final cause and/or a first efficient cause? So, I get that the final cause has to be prior to the efficient cause. But is the Unmoved Mover an efficient cause of anything? My problem is that in Metaphysics Lambda, the Unmoved Mover is not described as an efficient cause, but only as a final cause. Aristotle also affirms in Lambda that motion has to be eternal (IIRC comes from Physics VIII), which seems to imply that the universe has an infinite chain of efficient causes. So, you get this picture of there being two eternal principles: the Unmoved Mover, and the cosmos in motion. However, in Metaphysics Little Alpha, 994a, Aristotle argues precisely against the idea that you can have an infinite chain of even efficient causes. So, it seems like the idea that there are two coexisting eternal principles idea is wrong, since the cosmos cannot be the infinite chain of eternal causes that it appears to be. However, Aristotle does not fix the problem and call the Unmoved Mover an efficient cause at any point whatsoever. I am not sure how to rectify this. Any thoughts? I think the idea might be that "eternal things can be infinite sources, and since motion is eternal, there can be infinite efficient causes in a temporal sense", but this might be a copout.
>>25184004I appreciate that but it’s mostly in Physics 8. Which I know you’ve already read. Very deep, turbo-autismo analysis of this there if you want to take another look.
>>25184070The problem is that it's difficult to imagine circular movement solving the problem because you have a substance taking turns being the agent and the patient to itself. Well, I'm not being fair. In a way, circular reasoning, circular motion, reflexive motion, etc., does *solve* that problem because that is exactly the structure you would be looking for, but now we have self-movers, not unmoved movers. And that's a substance with potency, not a substance that is pure act. Unless I'm missing something here.
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>>25183925He literally says in the first third of Metaphysics that Difference arises from matter.
It doesn’t. Causality is fake.
Both Patrick Bateman and Mac the Knife are presented as personifications of capitalism as killers. There are some similarities such Bateman being obsessed with high-end brands, and Mac being similarly fussy in making distinctions between high-end furniture.But otherwise they seem to diverge. Mac only kills as business or where it is simply expected of him and proper for a killer to do so. Same thing with fucking underage girls and prostitutes, mostly because it is proper to his class of criminal--the child who is drugged and raped mentioned at the beginning was presumably not even raped by Mac, rather it was suggested he charged others for it. "Off work" he isn't even particularly violent, just a sort of bourgeois who is incidentally a career killer Taken as personifications of evil, Bateman is evil qua mental sickness, whereas Mac the Knife is evil qua banality as Hannah Arendt describedWhich is a more accurate portrait of pure evil? Or capitalism?
>>25184348Eichmann in Jerusalem is the most brainless inane dogshit I have ever read in my life. Arendt was not a philosopher, she was just fucking them.
>>25184754That's kind of funny considering that is a capitalist mantra tied to the hope that capitalists will deliver on their promises to the working class >>25184771She never claimed to be a philosopher and in truth rejected the label. The work is one of journalism and drew controversy mainly because she didn't think Nazism was uniquely evil, and she was subjected in life, partly as a result of that, to the accusation that she didn't have loyalty to her fellow Jews. Indeed despite being politically on the right, she came to reject Zionism, which she initially supported, on the basis that she found Zionists psychologically similar to Nazis.
>>25184371Fpbp
>>25184348Why does your picture collage have the mummy guy
>>25185072It's from the poster of the National Theatre Threepenny Opera. The actor playing the beggar playing Mac the Knife within the opera is balding in accordance with Brecht's suggestion that the beggar is not extremely attractive but just sort of normal looking and perhaps balding, based on a picture he saw from the Beggar's Opera
Why does it seem that all anyone on this board wants to write now is either fantasyslop or sci-fislop?I have seen some decently skilled writers throwing themselves away writing the most derivative, infantile, autistic, Royal-Road-coded shit imaginable:>Narrowing his eyes at the approaching hoard of T’zendians, Klayden clenched his fist and summoned forth a burning shadow spear…Just stop! Is this all because you’ve watched a small handful of fat guys be moderately successful producing this gutter oil? Why can’t you write something real? Do you have no real life experience to draw from?Just downright right peculiar, thas’ all.
>>25185047Black
>>25185051Was it the mere mention of Bloom that triggered you to this extent, or is it simply the lack of reverence to your genre fiction favourites?
>>25185079Nah I just hate you and your childish 105 IQ opinions, that's all. You and everything you've ever worked for is worthless.
>>25185082So you're just intellectually buck broken and filled with seething resentment. Tough luck buddy boy, maybe you will be happier in your next life.
>>25185085What could make me happier than reminding bitter midwit failures (you) of their station in life?
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>>25185027Yes, it made me laugh when I wrote it
>>25185032are you going to say something about the writing
>>25185034I did, the writing is fine, pretty interesting, but the over engineered formatting makes it hard for me to enjoy. I'm not a sophisticated man.
>>25181010They/them is to remove gender, not to establish the person is plural. Since “I” is non-gendered it would still be used. Try thinking instead of being transphobic. This isn’t /pol/.
>>25185044You would say "we" because "they" and "them" are both plural
Where do you usually get free e-books for your Kindle?
>>25183082Holy based, grandpa.
>>25177653z-library, through their telegram bot or the desktop app, the website is hit and miss
Eink readers with physical buttons? Had a kindle forever ago, but it looks like they're all touchscreen now, whether kindle paperwhite or kobo clara pw.>>25183082Undernet's #bookz was great. Wonder if it's still there.
>>25184900>Undernet's #bookz was great. Wonder if it's still there.it is
>>25177653We lib dot org
ITT we post phrases that are used exclusively by whitesI'll startbitter-ender(s)
>WE WUZ HAVIN SEX AND SHIT
kundera creates the impression he completely figured life out and knows everything about human life there is to know, but refuses to share it
>>25183475>>25184065What's even more fun is that Italian writer Goliarda Sapienza apparently had a sexual encounter with Kundera and described her experience here in an interview, around 16.00:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqvhOl_4nRA&t=329sApparently, Kundera had gigantic dick, and it was very painful to her. She didn't enjoy it at all. She also makes fun of the whole thing.Goliarda is the pinnacle of based btw, and the only truly Nietzschean novelist you will ever read (see pic related). I really think she should be read more widely here.
>>25185050She seems annoying as hell
Somebody recommended this book to me once, for whatever reason, and all I remember is the part where a woman is blowing a guy in a car when someone crashes into them, causing her to bite off his dick. Yeah don't wanna try that
>>25185054She's actually a lot of fun, I recommended watching the whole thing. If there's one genuinely deep, vitalistic writer, it's her. It also puts me in a good mood to hear her talk because she goes through the most gruesome detail of her fairly tough life and never stops smiling. I wish I had a person like this in my life.Her novels are great btw.
its mid
>>25183998this but unironically
>>25180997>you are not even saying why it's mid or whateverits inelegant. most of what the book is trying to say is delivered through extremely heavy handed expositiondumps about its world (the section where winston reads the in-universe manifesto towards the end of section 2 is the most obnoxious examples).winston and julia (and by the same token, obrien and charrington) are compelling enough characters and exploring the world through them would be much more interesting, but any time spent with them is (for the most part; there are occasional points, particularly with julia and obrien, where we do see the partys effects on a more individual level, and those are the best parts of the book) largely superficial at best and poorly written and weirdly horny at worst. and then orwell snaps back into exposition mode and resumes vomiting information about his thoughts on war and economic systems at you.maybe it just didnt do much for me, because, like >>25184013 says, ive grown up in a world where were familiar with the concept of a neverending rotation distant wars for ulterior motives, but regardless, i didnt really get much out of orwell doing the writing equivalent of just turning to look directly into the camera and telling me explicitly what the story was about.animal farm is just as bad for this
>>25184032you are retarded
>>25183998What is the philosophical underpinnings of his eternal hunger?
>>25182979>it has one of the greatest plot twists of all time.literally what is the twist
Going to teach myself german, what book should I read? I doubt Goethe would have enough of the relevant vocabulary. Maybe something newer, but expansive.
>>25183766doubt it but Rilke is nice
>>25183766
I recommend starting with adapted material at your current level and working your way up.https://rentry.org/german-readers
In addition to what >>25183959 said you should pick up Sandberg’s German For Reading. It will be a miserable slog but an effective one.
>>25183766>Going to teach myself german, what book should I read?
>references works from Molière and Foucault>jokes from Much Ado About Nothing, Brazil, Fight Club>quotes Politics and the English Language>features multiple fat niggersis Office Ladies /ourgame/?visual novel bread
>>25184822It's more of a JRPG than a VN, but close enough.
>>25184849Step one: transition.
>>25184824>a tripfag discussing standards. Kek, ironic.
>>25184967anon come on are you new?
>>25184967sage goes in all fields you doink
the walls of tyrosh editionASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_PageBlog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdyGeneral search: http://searcherr.work/TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chaptersold: >>25132678
>>25184567David Lightbringer …
>>25184575>but most would be happy that we got the book.And immediately sad that it is the last one.
>>25184567the worst that could happen is that The Winds of Winter is worse than Wind and Truth and fantasy books will be forbidden from having the word "Wind" in their titles due to superstitionalso Winds being bad would mean Dream would never come out, but we already know that's happening anyways
Ever realize how MASSIVELY favored Dorne is by GRRM?>Dorne attacks Daeron during a parlay attempt, and also Wyl of Wyl attacks a noblewoman's wedding, rapes her and sells her into slavery, and castrates her husband>Despite this they are not widely seen in the same light as the dishonorable Freys who did the Red Wedding, the Lannisters for the sack of King's Landing, the Boltons for their past cruelties, or even the Ironborn. Only the Reachmen view them in such light.>Despite houses like Yronwood being rivals to Martell (and Doran having to give Quentyn as a hostage after Oberyn "accidentally" killed one of them), not a single Yronwood ever attempted to switch to Aegon's side>Notably this is AFTER Aegon rose the Tyrells and the Tullies into Great Houses because they joined his side>Wyl was supposed to release Aemon the Dragonknight but reneged on their wordDorne during Aegon's invasion behaves like a fanatically nationalist nation, not a feudal society, and they get away with a ton of unscrupulous shit that other houses get a ton of flak for.GRRM is too nice to them.
!The morning throners posted their ADWD Tyrion 1 review!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP_cUxieD1I
what's your favourite short story?
>>25184182Dalmatian night - Friedrich Georg Jünger
The Forged Coupon by Leo Tolstoy.
>>25184182The Red Crown by Bulgakov
>>25184182Warm by Robert Sheckley
>>25184182my father,the male progenitor of my y chromosome. The conclusion has been sighted to me your mistakes when made had somewhat not been without reason and corrected when possible. There have been many lives of men to have been transported through these neurons and fat and sugar and water that now write to you yet while none had been perfect and none could have been yours would have remained of use to have been rethought over regardless. You evolved when not selected for. You moved. You didn't. There's nothing else you could have done for me how I see it. You have been an intelligent man and you would have died an intelligent man. There are no languages outside hunger and a gun whence there'd have been no use to have related possible futures to you. When I die you would have been somewhere better than me for years withal. You will not hear from me and will not be able to have found me from now on. All free men, whenever they may live.[name]
how do you properly annotate your books? i feel like an idiot just underlining and drawing around paragraphs i find essential or like the phrasing
>>25184282Don't we all?
>>25183682hahahaha, merely thinking that someone put efforts in doing this makes me laugh
>>25183682Fuckin crying
>>25184282Based
>>25183611tabd, post it with graphics and notes annotations on them, multiple sizes and colors.no real reason to write in a book andmuch more organized conceptually and visually with the sticky tabs.if you must, multi color penset or symbols to indicated why a section is underscored or called out.tabs, bb, tabs
