Why don't more authors use incest as a plot device?
>>24739685Your categories mean nothing to me. Engage in good faith.
>>24739681you should marry your cousins there's good evidence it is genetically beneficial and selected for, but the extended ones not your close cousins.Marrying your 1st cousin generation after generation gets you to a bad place.
According to roman era census records of occupied egypt sibling marriage was notably common perhaps 20% of marriages with some 40% of men with a marriable sister actually marrying her.Many challenges have attempted to discredit it the idea but a number of pieces of evidence arose that reaffirmed the sibling marriage pattern such as wedding invitiations, naming pattern quirks and successive census returns of the same household.For a long while I've wondered just how different their society must have been.Do any of you know any books that attempted to tackle a world such as this where the incestuous marriage tabboo was seemingly absent, a woman marrying her brother was just considered a normal part of everyday life without the outcry of fetishism it attracts now?.
>>24739014I heard sibling incest is actually kind of common according to dna tests or something and now imagine the ones who know to use birth control
>>24739741Egypt was all kinds of ass backwards according to the Greeks. Supposedly the men urinated sitting down and women did it standing up. They also thought it strange that Egyptian doctors would specialize in only a single part of the body, such as doctors who only work on teeth.
I was quite surprised, after thoroughly reading through the masterworks of this King, by some falsely considered the godfather of nazism, to promote an almost full equality of the female gender and describe the Aryan Germain as an otherwise tolerant, non-nationalistic, unprejudiced towards foreign nations, individualist man who doesn't go to the temples and resents priests with a passion. He wants nothing other than to contribute to his community and who would, if necessary, even sacrifice his life and all his wealth for it. He is a man who does not love authority and who is good to his slaves. Spreading the message of justice and fair government, with violence if necessary, is the true Aryan's sole concern. They lived inside their rural farms, democratically organized under the head of an uninfluential federative King. Unfortunately there are not many of them left, as Gobineau explains in his book. To say of oneself that one is an Aryan, is almost the same as claiming to be a true genius. But who other than a true Aryan would dare to accept such worldview? Combining the idea of racism with a love for all humanity is a step few people dared to make.
Benevolent racism is the way to go but /lit/ will never get it.
>>24739802The English had it right the first time. You tell 'em.
>>24739184Thats because you seem to view people in terms of class which is a common European mistake. Marx might have had a point here or there but biological science points elsewhere.
>>24738446I couldn't care less what he thinks because paternity tests are illegal in his country all things considered
>>24739802>Also about the attitude of the superior to the inferior races, the Negroes, for instance. R. says the greatest triumph for the intellectually superior person is to win the love and devotion of those beneath him, whereupon the Count [Gobineau] says such love can be found among Negroes, but not mulattoes.>We come back to the subject of race, wondering which theory is right, Schopenhauer’s or Gobineau’s. R. feels they can be reconciled: a human being who is born black, urged toward the heights, becomes white and at the same time a different creature.>‘Negro slave owners etc. as extreme consequence of the conqueror’s becoming far more savage than the animals.’
>It will be found that the impressions of sense give the first occasion for bringing into action the whole faculty of cognition, and for the production of experience, which contains two very dissimilar elements, namely, a matter for cognition, given by the senses, and a certain form for the arrangement of this matter, arising out of the inner fountain of pure intuition and thought; and these, on occasion given by sensuous impressions, are called into exercise and produce conceptions. Such an investigation into the first efforts of our faculty of cognition to mount from particular perceptions to general conceptions, is undoubtedly of great utility; and we have to thank the celebrated Locke, for having first opened the way for this enquiry. But a deduction of the pure à priori conceptions of course never can be made in this way, seeing that, in regard to their future employment, which must be entirely independent of experience, they must have a far different certificate of birth to show from that of a descent from experience. This attempted physiological derivation, which cannot properly be called deduction, because it relates merely to a quæstio facti, I shall entitle an explanation of the possession of a pure cognition. It is therefore manifest that there can only be a transcendental deduction of these conceptions, and by no means an empirical one; also, that all attempts at an empirical deduction, in regard to pure à priori conceptions, are vain, and can only be made by one who does not understand the altogether peculiar nature of these cognitions.
Stop posting Kant. He's not cool anymore.
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>>24739874This is irony btw.
Behold, the logical conclusion of secular philosophy.
>>24739220>Group attacks emerged with the birth of agricultureno, EVIDENCE of group attacks emerges with the birth of agriculture, but that isn't even true because i remember reading about some mesolithic or whatever massacre site where they found bones with cut marks and evidence of being bound including women and children. also some of the most violent "group attackers" weren't agrarian at all but steppe nomads. i like scott, but he has an ideological axe to grind which makes his work non-serious.
>>24738176Behold, a terrible thread
>>24738180This but replace "people who believe in god" with "atheists" and "niggers".
>>24738176Is that the suicide chair? And is that quote literally on the suicide chair? wtf?
>>24738176Logical? Show me the derivation.
Weekly World News ed. Weird fiction & sci-fi/horror welcome as well :)Old: >>24702117
What are the best swamp monster stories?
>>24736122Did you dislike The Shining that much? I thought it is one of his very best novels; very strong atmosphere, great well-rounded characters, both supernatural and psychological horror, a lot of well written tension, just fantastic overall.Also, which Last Days?
Necroscope 2 was better paced than the first book, but the constant backstory exposition got monotonous, also didn't care for the Cold War espionage stuff. The parts with Thibor and Faethor were great though, anything to do with the vampires was kino, really.
>>24718068That ending really got me good even if the name was a huge giveaway.
>>24739658Yeah, the ending was pretty well done. Glad you enjoyed it!
Will this help me get laid?
>>24738141femcel?
>>24738141whats the plot anon? and what year does it take place
No way fag
>>24738164>>24738302It's the memoirs of a guy in the 19th century where he writes how he had sex with a bunch of women.
>>24738141>he was not molested by the nursemaid at 5 years oldsorry anon, either the ladies want you from the start or not at all
Predicted British teenagers in the future talking like idiots and doing violent crime for clout, what else did he get right about the current state of the UK?
yes to the readers perspective but to the people in the book that have no clue what the hell they're saying its like gibberish to old people that dont speak nadsat
>>24739872The entire point is the adults don't understand it but the malchickiwicks do, it's to reaffirm there's a huge cultural divide between adults and young peopleI swear this board is retarded
probably, i blame all the lead in the water,
KUBRICK IS A HACK
well i mean i liked the movie but it was interesting how they replaced the Beethoven statue, that seemed kind of odd, some changes here and there such as removing the true ending of the story, but visually its a very nice movie considering the decoration and scenes
madeleine de proust is fake and never existed
they're fucking retarded
Got rejected this week by two different different open submissions based in my city. Wouldn't have been too bothered but the quality of the work that they usually accept has been so middling I thought I had a great chance of getting in but no luck... How bad must my work be then if I can't get a look in? Make me doubt my own perception of my work and if you start doubting that, where does that leave you?I know rejection is just part of the process. How do you guys wrestle with it?
>>24739325Wouldn't have minded so much if you'd said something halfway intelligent or perceptive.
>>24739166You have to take a long hard look at the work itself as dispassionately as you possibly can (getting feedback can help with this) and decide whether its a you thing or a them thing. Is your writing truly where you want it to be? Honestly? There's always room for improvement though after a certain point you can redraft your way into oblivion. Once you're truly content with it to the point where you have to let go then there's no more you can do. Their rejection is entirely down to their own tastes and interests and is ultimately is out of your hands. You've just got to keep going, keep pushing yourself and hope you get lucky with the next publisher or the next piece of work because, in the end, whether what you're vibing with is the same thing as what the publishers are vibing with is entirely a matter of circumstance. It's like getting into a relationship in that way.>>24739358Ignore him, most advice like that is people just talking about themselves.
>>24739358Guess I am wrong, You are a diamond in the rough and no one but you can see it. Would you do the me the honor of posting some of your writing so I can print it out and put it on my fridge?
>>24739376Thanks, that resonates. Sometimes the discrepancy between your own self appraisal and the appraisal of others can take you by surprise, though sometimes in a super enlightening way
>>24739166To make it in any pursuit, you have to have an healthy amount of contempt towards the opinions of others.
>rod serling voicePicture this, an ordinary town, an ordinary day, an ordinary man. Enter Anon Anonson, the most average man in the world. Even he thinks he's average, but little does he know that he lives...in The Indian ZoneHundreds of Indians pouring into the country while the government assures him everything is fineHouses destroyed, people in homeless camps, while the politicians get rich off investments. A more terrifying world cannot be imagined, but such is life, in The Indian Zone
Hit me with some classic sci-fi, daddy.
>>24738541FrankensteinA Brave New World
Downward to the Earth and Dying Inside by Robert Silverberg
>>24738541pickerel personal fave. admittedly not really a sci fi gi. solaris was great tho
>>24738541Quran BibleTorah.
James Rolfe aka AVGN just released a book
>>24732681Looks like a FNAF ripoff
>>24732721>>24732681Hmmm... yes... Shallow AND pedantic
mogs him as a youtuber and as an author
>>24739846Is it any good? Always assumed it was ass.
>>24739848ive read 4 of his novels they are fun, he's always done point and click adventure games with narrative stuff so he has some experience and has some interesting ideas. definitely slop but it's interesting/fun slop and he has only gotten better. If you like his sense of humor worth checking out at least. Without question they shit on avgn's garbage.
These are the books I have currently read this year.
>>24738740It might have been if I could talk about it without be accused of being Wallace but can't really say. If you like 4chan autism, absolutely worth reading, if not, probably not.
>>24738740the other anon isnt me, but yeah sure. it was short (maybe 4 hours?) and it was something newi didnt go in with high hopes but honestly it wasnt even that bad. its pretty evenly split between really good parts and really bad parts. while i was reading it i would see a sentence that seemed to be written by some 10 year old esl but then the next sentence was really good and all was forgivenits a comedy at the end of the day (whether wallace would agree or not). he also posted an updated version (>>24738154) that apparently fixed some "poorly written sentences" but i read the old version so i cant comment if he fixed it or not
>>24738836Hello Wallace, has the bladder infection cleared up?
Young Men and FireJesus of Nazareth: The Infancy NarrativesOne Day in the Life of Ivan DenisovichAdult Children of Emotionally Immature ParentsThe Lost City of the Monkey GodTravels with Charley: In Search of AmericaVoices from ChernobylWill You Please Be Quiet, PleaseAnimal Wise: The Thoughts and Emotions of Our Fellow CreaturesButchers CrossingOut of the Silent PlanetMedium Raw: A Bloody Valentine to the World of Food and the People Who CookThrough A Glass, Darkly: Sir Aurthur Conan Doyle and the Quest to Solve the Greatest Mystery of AllJoylandState and RevolutionComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>24736899>BM>In the Miso SoupSame here, two of my favorites from this year. Went on a Ryu Murakami tear after, Popular Hits from the Showa Era is probably the best thing I've read all year.
Nietzsche was so based
I'll just repost this Anon's good comment:>There is an undeniable thread of invariance running through any coherent process, a thread that linear algebra, with its basis-independent operators and change-of-basis theorems, captures beautifully. It is precisely this invariance under transformation that endows deep learning and other ML models with their robustness and generalization: the same underlying relations persist even as their representations shift. Were there no stable, ordered links binding successive “time-slices” of reality, no consistent symmetries or conserved structures, our experience of a lawful world would collapse into chaos. To deny such universals, as nominalism does, is to cast aside the very framework through which proofs remain valid regardless of one’s choice of symbols and to mistake arbitrary labels for the bedrock of intelligibility.I would add the the basic preconditions for anything to mean anything at all in information theory seem relevant here too, and you can see something similar in semiotics (the tripartite version that comes down through the Scholastics and CSP and gets used in the sciences, not the POMO stuff from Sausser).Also, the "scientific" world view often used to justify nominalism historically came out of theology, as an explicit reaction against prior Western metaphysics. If you don't think speculation about God based on the Bible and a desire to buck the papacy is likely to give practices good epistemic warrant than the genealogy of the view that makes nominalism seem so obvious starts to look rather suspect. Originally, nominalism was introduced, and then dogmatically defended, because the idea is that stable natures would somehow restrain divine freedom since God couldn't arbitrarily chane final causality. The theology/philosophy underpinning the move is itself questionable DESU.
>>24738061ChatGPT also said the quote in question was from Nietzsche's earlier work so maybe he developed the ideas you're speaking of later. ChatGPT is also lowkey sus fr so it just be making shit up as it has been known to do.
>>24736208Bro rejects God and writes about being a sexy monkey on a big flippin science rock
>>24738062point here is not that science is completely arbitrary, it's not as precise as people pretend it to be.>>24738124makes sense because engineers get to experience firsthand how little abstract concepts has to do with reality.
>>24736279Aside from the fact that you're a retarded nigger, mathsfags are still contending with literal and unironic platonism to this day because they openly choose to ignore referential questions about maths in order to hideaway in their autistic game
Im looking for sexist/misogynistic fantasy/sci-fi books.Tried asking on reddit and I got banned.
>"Nine times out of ten, if a girl gets raped, it's at least partly her fault."
>Men
>>24737327read nietzsche
>>24736954Bakker's Second Apocalypse worldbuilding includes women being objectively ontologically worth less than men.
>>24736954Do these people have zero faith in their own intelligence?