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If the universe is a simulation, does our existence still have meaning?
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>>24732455
>universe is a simulation
Meaningless statement you fucking imbecile
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>>24733385
>convey meaning
That has nothing to do with people having telos
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>>24732455
So if you found out for an absolute fact that everything was simulated, but its still the exact same environment, exact same experience with the exact same agency, the exact same consequences and the exact same unknowns between agency and consequence, what would you change in your life, how would that have any effect on your choices and their outcomes?
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>>24733015
>a simulation by definition would rule out the possibility of free will
By that logic, a mind being in a body rules out the possibility of free will.
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>>24733085
I used to post on a chan board that had a dedicated philosophy board. Its actually a bad idea and discussion dies quickly and becomes a dead board. Anyways picrel seems pretty apt, since the other anon wanted to discuss books. Im on chapter 4 so far and its great.

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When and where do you guys read
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>>24732977
That's right, they fuck on the couch
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>>24731833
>When
never

>where
home
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>>24731833
At work
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>>24731833
Whenever I can, I carry my kobo with me at all times, so my downtimes at work, at home or anywhere else make perfect times for reading.

Where? anywhere actually, but I'd say mostly at work, I have plenty of downtime which I use on reading.

I try to get around 50-100 pages in per day
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>>24731833
I can't figure it out. I'm always stressed and uncomfortable.

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how retarded would it be if I join the navy so that I can get life experience for my writing?

I am a good writer on a technical level, but I'm also a coddled bitch with very few interesting life stories.

how important is it that writers live a great life to make great work?
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>>24729113
Is you want actual stories than you need to become a merchant mariner -- merchant navy and all that. You can try and aim to become an officer or just stick with being an Ordinary Seaman until you gain enough experience to become an Able Bodied seaman. Then you want to join a something like a break bulk or bulk carrier cargo-ship. I would recommend against the offshore industry, better money but less adventure, or tankers and containers, usually have shorter stays in port than break bulk. Be aware though that the pay won't be great -- you'll be competing with Filipinos, Indians, Eastern Europeans, and the entire rest of the world. Also be aware that you can end up working in very miserable conditions with poor food, rusty water, hellish superiors, and some disturbed people. But when you get a good crew it's something special. Though in the past you could get up to far more interesting trouble than now.
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>>24729113
You can read a book about it
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>>24732048
If you join the airforce you can post here all day
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>>24729113
The spirit of adventure isn't gone from the military but they are certainly doing their best to kill it.

I dropped out of my law degree to join the Navy and while I don't regret it, I certainly wonder what my life might have been like if I stayed at uni.

YMMV, but in my experience its 95% boring af admin and 5% cool shit.
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>>24729183
Join the navy they said
See the world they said

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>author rewrites one of their older works using the skill and experience they've gained over the years

>one must imagine Wojak is smiling
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>>24733861
Name three times this has happened.
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>>24733885
Arthur C. Clarke did it. I can't think of any other examples.
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>>24733885
Does Non Fiction count?

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Are there really no decent white writers anymore? I search for up and coming writers and all I see is Chinese and Nigerian women, writing books about how they are Chinese and Nigerian. Where is the modern Sir Walter Scott? Goethe? There's got to be a good writer who is both white and male. If you know of any, recommend them to me.
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>>24732825
OP, >>24732788 is just a shill here. The rest are genuine.
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Avik Jain Chatlani is pretty heavy, have only read his novel, not many essays though. Mby Eduardo Agualusa?
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>>24732710
Wallace Mack and Ogden Nesmer are also really good. I think they are white.
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>>24732788
That's a good one.
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>>24732710
Chiggers

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What are some books that explain this problem.
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>>24732476
Capitalism is a made up word from socialists to better have an object to seethe about.
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>>24732476
>when capitalism fails
>bad consequences from capitalism
That wasn’t real capitalism, real capitalism has never been tried.

Seriously that is their answer. They are as delusional as commies. Only whatever good things happen are because of capitalism. Bad things happening must be someone else’s fault. Put christniggers and other religious tards into this type if thinking as well.
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>>24732476
The difference is corporatocracy is the economy owning the state and corporatism is the state owning the economy. But this thread seems full of whiny communists so ill see my way out.
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>>24734078
Sure i guess when landlords get killed its their fault too, right?
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>>24732476
>produced by large corporation with anti-competitive practices with vast holdings ranging from grocery stores to movie studios

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Aristotle Chads report in and tell me what the FUCK is he talking about.

Or post quotes from Aristotle and discuss their meaning. I'll start.

>Metaphysics II.2 "Again, nothing infinite can exist; and if it could, at least being infinite is not infinite."
What does he mean by being being a limit?
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>>24732627
>and hopefully my statement makes sense here
>Is that like saying the infinite simplicter cannot exist as a substance because it would be necessarily limited by the account of its essence?

I think so. Moreover, based on what I read on On the Soul, Aristotle seems to think that intellect (including human intellect) is potentially able to apprehend all the forms, and this apprehension implies that the intellect, which has no form by default, adopts the form of the apprehended concept. But, of course, it couldn't adopt the form of infinity, because it has no form, and this is something we can test internally when trying to think of infinity. So its lack of intelligibility is an additional sign (not a proof, though) that infinity can't be a substance.

However, I'm not as sure of this as with my previous post, I'm no expert in Aristotle, so take it with a grain of salt.
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Aristotle be doing dat greek maff wit lines an sheiiiit
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>>24732627(me)
>Maybe I should include the whole paragraph.
I guess the point of the paragraph is just to say there can't be an infinite regress of forms/formal causes.
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Why do people say that there can be infinite unmoved movers? Is it that the would each correspond to their own seperate universe, or would they all be in the same universe?
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it's so over

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This book is dogshit. Complaining about the mediocrity of the art establishment is something; but if you do, don't be even more mediocre than them. Just name drops imageboard and memes for nothing, the style is annoying. Could've been worse, it's just a bit more mediocre than the lib art culture it makes fun of throughout the whole book
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>>24733626
>>24733639
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>>24733639
he dropped a tannhauser reference and some idiot thought this was an uneducated black woman?
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>>24733648
much like the "other side" holds out eternal hope for a single good (or even passable) contemporary chud author, the progs desperately want bipoc genius to crawl straight out of the gutter and will go any length necessary to preserve such a rare delusion
that is not a knock on calamari man, who seems to respect people's privacy/anonymity (to his own detriment, in this case)
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>>24716875
nta but I liked both novels and I support you

>published a whole trilogy of self-insert fantasy books
>it got him his dream job
If Kash can do it, what's your excuse?
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>>24731979
Truly there is no indignity that the jeet will not stoop to.
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Can you tell me more? Z-lib has a bad upload.
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>>24731979
>what's your excuse?
I have a bit of dignity. Kissing the ass of a senile narcissist for a job is a bit too much for me.
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America is a joke.
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>>24731979
>If Kash can do it, what's your excuse?
Not well-connected enough to find the right ego to massage

Does occult books worth reading?
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>>24733959
That's no fun. What you do is stitch together a ritual on advice from resident /x/ schitzos, perform it, and hopefully get in contact with a lower level demonic entity that will ruin your life and mind. Then you should seek organized religion to escape your predicament, usually Christianity, but you could go with something wackier. Then you go around the boards telling people to stay away from the occult and join your religion instead sourcing your own experience as an example.
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>>24733978
I made a tulpa once; does that count?
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>>24733997
Yes, that's the good shit. You need to get as mindbroken as possible
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>>24733823

A lot of it's bullshit but there's a few genuine sections within it. Had a psychotic episode due to it, don't recommend
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>>24733823
Only the ones hiding the truth about the invisible nature of reality, the rest are new age bullshit.

Has any woman in the past 50 years written anything worth reading? Picunrel I haven't read it
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Avik Jain chatlani's This Country is No Longer Yours ain't bad i guess
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Oops never mind he's a dude lol
Guess the answer is probs not
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>>24732155
>Ottessa Moshfegh
Honestly some of her books look interesting
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>>24732155
I got this as a gift (anonymous gift exchange thing, wasn't picked out specifically for me) and I read it. It's just 300 pages of a rich girl in new york whining about how depressed she is, how she doesn't like her art gallery job where she gets paid to do nothing, how she spends all of her time at home eating ice cream, watching netflix, and drinking/doing drugs all on her dead mother's dime. Then she has a weird month long drug binge locked in a dark apartment before 9/11 happens and the novel ends. I still don't know if this is supposed to be a "haha this is so me relatable" book for women or if this is the brownoid femcel author's attempt at deriding le white privilege, since the protagonist is supposed to be a pretty white woman.
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lapvona was extremely good

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>Calypso offers Odysseus immortality if he will marry her
>he still says no even though he admits she is way hotter than Penelope

Why?
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>>24733581
Calypso was a nymph on average she had to be prettier than most mortals
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>>24733683
Plus she didn’t age
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OP wants to be choked with her own hijab when Augustus Bumplapper plows her from behind
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>>24733314
Gooning forever isn't enough to keep man happy. Calypso might have been hot but not enough to change his mind
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>>24733441
In these cases, it's more of a Semitic thing.

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DUSTROY TROLY
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>>24733719
Each line builds on the last. What begins as a shadow grows (like a symphony) line by line into an ‘unbearable experience’. Maybe spend a little less time on tiktok and you’ll have the attention span needed to enjoy a single three line description
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>>24733393
Last night I when to bathroom and light when out and after few minutes moonlight came in and suddenly The Bungalow House's dreams on the cassette tape started playing in the air and I truly felt the weird. Fucking Ligotti

IT'S HAPPENING
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>>24733393
What's up with this kind of "male lesbian" phenotype? The Dutch?
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>>24734051
bet you wouldnt say that to his face
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>>24734054
It's not really an insult and no one would gain anything from it; You're right.

Are there any literary works worth reading from this region?
I only know of Ibsen's plays and Andersen's tales.
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>>24732705
learn Finnish for your reread
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>>24725908
>Most good finnish stuff is untranslated
While you're not wrong, the incessant chart threads a couple of years ago made me have an idea of making a chart for Finnish literature in English. Turned out that there's a surprising amount of it, but the problem is that they were translated fairly soon after being published, so they exist as 1910s-30s paperbacks that presumably had tiny print runs, and by and large have not been digitized.
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>>24724699
>mysteries
nothing happens: the story
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>>24723585
Septology by Fosse
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>>24725025
>>24728397
Facts
>>24728403
People on here only read books suggested by other anons
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Spoke with a guy yesterday who told me his grandmother used to babysit Jon Fosse. Maybe it's a sign that I should read more of his work

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Any books that disprove this meme?
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>>24732894
I guess it can be true if you believe in the unproven, wacky theory of quantum mechanics, but that's a leap not many serious a person are willing to take.
>>24733439
He was on to something, if only a bit too late. 130 years after Hume, and a couple thousand after Protagoras. Indeed, there's no humanly account for universals other than through belief in God.
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>>24732894
The Very Hungry Caterpillar
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>>24732894
can someone post the one that looks like this but its like german "enlightenment" and it says murder is bad
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>>24733439
I think I agree with this. If you ever want to doubt any conventional logic or knowledge or "understanding" just watch presuppositionalists debate, youll realize how many convenient baked in assumptions are in "logic" that can be utilized any which arbitrary way.

Anyway as a result of watching presups debate, I had this idea that maybe contradictions fundamentally dont make sense, that theyre not real. What I mean is: For contradictions to arise, they have to be created.
You have to essentially create an imaginary situation where "The moon exists and does not exist" can make sense, while DELIBERATELY ignoring all the ways in real life that such a statement could be explained and understood.

Dont know if anybody has brought this up in academia, my thought seems to simple that I imagine people have already addressed this, but at the same time, I then dont understand still the obsesseion with the Law of Non Contradiction, beyond addressing cognitive dissonance as a psychological phenomenon, or consistency for normative principles.

Like just because I think contradictions might not be real, doesnt mean I think it is reasonable for somebody to have a double standard where they value the most competent and accomplished person applying for their firm, but won't accept them because theyre black or something
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yo why these threads always die as soon as an effort post shows up


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