Why aren't female philosophers like Agnes Taubert and Olga Plümacher better known?
>>24733679agnes is a cute name
>>24733679What did they philosophize?
I had to stop reading Anna Karenina because I realized it was too good and I would be reading the pinnacle of literature too early in my life. I have to savor it
>>24732927I SMELL BURNING TOAST…..GET OUT OF THE WAY! I MUST FINISH….ANNA KARENINA…..UTHFHFHHHH
>>24732897If you consider it the pinnacle of literature, you would find it infinitely re-readable anyway.
>>24732897you should of already read 10 times by the time you turned 10, you are behind if anything.
>>24732961This is like calling Demons “action movie” because it features violence
>>24732902Nothing will ever be as good as the first time
>"Life offers the human being two choices: animal existence - a lower order of life - and spiritual existence. In general, a woman will choose the former and opt for physical well-being, a place to breed, and an opportunity to indulge unhindered in her breeding habits">"At birth, men and women have the same intellectual potential; there is no primary difference in intelligence between the sexes. It is also a fact that potential left to stagnate will atrophy. Women do not use their mental capacity: they deliberately let it disintegrate. After a few years of sporadic training, they revert to a state of irreversible mental torpor. Why do women not make use of their intellectual potential? For the simple reason that they do not need to. It is not essential for their survival. Theoretically it is possible for a beautiful woman to have less intelligence than a chimpanzee and still be considered an acceptable member of society.">"By the age of twelve at the latest, most women have decided to become prostitutes. Or, to put it another way they have planned a future for themselves which consists of choosing a man and letting him do all the work. In return for his support, they are prepared to let him make use of their vagina at certain given intervals. The minute a woman has made this decision she ceases to develop her mind. She may, of course, go on to obtain various degrees and diplomas. These increase her market value in the eyes of men, for men believe that a woman who can recite things by heart must also know and understand them. But any real possibility of communication between the sexes ceases at this point. Their paths are divided forever."Is she right?
>"Life offers the human being two choices: animal existence - a lower order of life - and spiritual existence. O rly.
>>24729568If they were actually good at it, they could figure out the opportune time to fuck and give pregnant and give birth to a handsome genius spiritual magic baby.
Sounds like bullshit.
>>24729866>But she seems to get along with my younger brother without issue and he's a college drop out. Not sure what gives.Treat her like shit and she'll be nice to you. She sounds cunty and that's how you deal with cunts.
>>24729544based woman. rare sight.
Suicide when looked at without the usual moral panic can actually be seen as a rational and even ethical choice. Life is structurally rigged against us, from birth we inherit a terminal condition destined to end in death and along the way we endure pain, discouragement, decay, and moral compromise. People cope by inventing values, distractions, and illusions (religion, art, entertainment) but all of this is just a way of postponing the inevitable. If procreation itself is ethically questionable because it throws someone into this doomed structure without consent then why should continuing in it be a moral duty? There is no categorical imperative to keep living at all costs, survival isn't inherently noble if it comes at the price of indignity, manipulation, or unbearable suffering. Suicide simply recognizes the reality of existence and takes control over when and how the inevitable end happens. It's not an act of cowardice but of lucidity and a refusal to live on borrowed illusions when the frictions of life outweigh whatever temporary values we can create. In that sense suicide isn't immoral, it's one of the few moments in which a person can fully assert autonomy and dignity in a world otherwise hostile to both.
>>24732177The basic problem is that the intellect properly honed correctly recognizes the futility of it all (intellect led astray does not), but the instincts are always far stronger, and almost always insuperable. The instinct is for life, and the intellect is for death. This absolutely irreconcilable tension in the human condition is what Cioran understood, in one of his best remarks:Having lived out – having verified all the arguments against life – I have stripped it of its savors... I have known post-sexual metaphysics, the void of the futilely procreated universe, and that dissipation of sweat which plunges you into an age-old chill, anterior to the rages of matter. And I have tried to be faithful to my knowledge, to force my instincts to yield, and realized that it is no use wielding the weapons of nothingness if you cannot turn them against yourself. For the outburst of desires, amid our knowledge which contradicts them, creates a dreadful conflict between our mind opposing the Creation and the irrational substratum which binds us to it still.Still, suicide itself is a pointless bitch move, which Cioran also understood. You'll be dead in a short while no matter what you do. In your lower language, the categorical imperative (an intellectual idea) is superseded again by the instincts, which are obviously the superior impulse in practice. Mom would be sad, which counts for something. In your later remarks you correctly note the positive aspect of suicide's POSSIBILITY: each individual retains that absolute sovereignty over themselves. Anyone can check out any time they want, and refuse to keep playing. That is why religions and governments make of suicide such an extreme, unpardonable sin. The latter are psychological and social phenomena which absolutely require living human individuals for their own reproduction (parasites on hosts), so etc.
>>24733487The instinct to life isn’t really the main barrier. Hence why the government must childproof the nation and keep effective, painless methods of suicide away from the plebs. What people fear more than death is pain and injury.> Still, suicide itself is a pointless bitch move,So is living
>>24733487>The instinct is for lifeI went through a near-death experience recently and completely lost my instinct for life that keeps most people from killing themselves
>>24733658This is an interesting reply because there's an anon here (you?) who periodically insists on the primacy of NDEs and their controlling explanatory power for some sort of an afterlife. Your language suggests that you've made at least one suicide attempt, in which case, the odds just spiked that you'll make another at some later point.
Are kindles effeminate ?
>>24729892If you feel emasculated by reading on a tablet you're effeminate.
>>24732929what if it's a pink one
>>24733007https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ5fCa6Xb00
slightly different topic, but what are some good audiobooks? I've not been reading as much as I would like of late, and am thinking that it would be good to listen to something good while working out.
>>24732764your eyes are tired of blue light slop
Books with this feel?
OP here.Can /lit/ actually describe "this feel"? Based on these recs I'm not so sure.
>>24731396I would say it's something like "dreamcoreXmemorycore". Or art characterized by memory/minds-eye tendency to omit unimportant detail coupled with the poor physics comprehension of the sleeping mind. The feeling it conveys is another matter. You're not supposed to (externally) see things like this while awake. When asleep or daydreaming the lack of detail doesn't bother you. Seeing it like this, it feels vaguely familiar but somehow wrong.A book like this couldn't accomplish the same feeling in the same way. Geons (in the neuropsych sense) are specific to processing visual information. I suppose you'd need a book that was simultaneously nostalgic but uncanny in a very subtle way. Not in a David Lynch ham-handed way by including whacky elements, but somehow linked to the way a person reads and understands a book.
>>24731428>geonsI don't see a reason why they couldn't be used in a similar way. Tropes/archetypes are literary geons.
>>24727468This is the real answer
>>24732923bump and shill,also Rubicon Beach by Steve Erickson
Books featuring schizoid protagonists?
>>24733164Fellow schizoid who went to marriage counseling. Your mother seems like a slightly meaner version of mine. Here’s what I learned after paying quite a bit. Try meditation, clear your mind, consciously try to be more involved with people especially spouse/children even if it’s hard. Get out of your own head…do things for others. All easier said than done.
>>24733353You don’t know what you’re talking about. I legitimiately like a handjob and don’t like PIV. The idea of stabbing a girl with my dick just seems so damn weird.
The Stranger is probably the most famous one.
>>24733129but which translation and author for English?
>>24733353We really don't, but enjoy your larping.
Has any woman in the past 50 years written anything worth reading? Picunrel I haven't read it
>>24733360Good for you. It’s nice to have dreams.
>>24732646>most books are "worth reading."So wrong it's not even funny. Given the sheer volume of good books out there and how little time people actually have to read them, the process of picking out what to read should imply selectiveness and careful consideration.
>>24732951>>24733004kek, i do not give a single fuck about your sexual conquest or the utter delusion that this book was responsible for getting a crumb of pussy but okay good luck getting laid anons.
>>24733187You liar
>>24732155If you believe she's a woman, Elena Ferrante.
Lets have a library thread. You can talk about your local. Funny or interesting stories. And a few questions>What do you think could make libraries more appealing?>Are libraries dead? Will they eventually be turned into something unrelated to study and literature?
>>24730835>>24731923It's this >>24725297The Oriental had it right
>>24732268I wish a bunch of libraries could come together and test different setups to see which methods produce the best library. Like have a library go super strict and old fashioned, just to see what happens.
>>24732053The NYPL is fundamentally an activist organization at this point. "Serving the community" or some shit is their objective, and letting homeless men in is part of that. Not only do the police have more important things to care about than expel them, but I'm sure if they ever tried it'd be a whole fucking incident involving the NYPL, city gov, homeless advocates etc. It's not changing unless the NYPL is fundamentally broken apart.
>>24730866The fuck are my taxes even for then?
>>24733646Rarely anything useful. The Carnegie Library in my hometown is now a restaurant.
>>24732660I love it but I would skip the first volume unless you like cavemen and asians/middle easterners, even then, the volume was published in 1935 and I guess at that point there wasnt that much chinese/japanese history information available in english so its rather lacking
>>24733215His sections on their art and literature are good
>They also left notes behind for a 12th volume, The Age of Darwin, as well as an outline of a 13th volume, The Age of Einstein, which would have taken The Story of Civilization to 1945.>we will never get to read these
these actually made me emotional
There is a pretty solid biography of Napoleon contained in this book.
opinions?just finished, thought it was good but nowhere as good as his other stuff
>>24732330One of the only Nabokov books so far I've been disappointed by. Maybe it was just my expectations going in but I thought the setting and story didn't fit his style as an author. Pseudo Kafka isn't what I think of when I think of Nabokov
>>24732607I've read it in russian and I kinda feel the same.Which one was your favorite?
>>24732330>nowhere as good as his other stuffdid you read bend sinister?
I am so smart.I am so smart.Smarter than all you people.Smarter than all society.You want to imprison me because I'm so smart.But your prisons can't touch my true freedom.Because I am so smart.
>>24732330>>24732607I was expecting pseudo-Kafka but was pleasantly surprised to find it be more of a spiritual parable. I liked in particular the section where Cinninatus is writing and Nanokov basically lays out his phenomenology of writing. It's not quite in his top tier, but it's a solid A
Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg>Previous:>>24720851>Thread Question:Do protagonists that rely on cunning and cleverness make for more interesting stories than ones with innate abilities or powers?
>>24733442why does this keep getting asked? It was talked about last thread. There are tons of examples.
>>24733339murphy is the worst part of the books, ruins every one she is in
>>24733339I like 'em. They're not anywhere close to great literature, but I enjoy them for what they are. Excited for the next volume coming out soon. My only beef with them is that Butcher continually ramps up the stakes so high that it's hard to get invested. I prefer the earlier books where it's just Harry solving mysteries and I wished he had stuck to that instead of making every book about Harry facing some kind of world-ending threat.
this is like… really profound
>straightforward story about a man who is already psychologically destroyed getting hit on the head and having delusions>time slip delusion colors his reminisces and traces them as his already lonely life gets even more lonely>this is spelled out for the reader in the bookstore and the last scene in the alien zooWhy is this considered science fiction again
>"No, modernity bad! Middle Ages and Ancient world good! You have to be focused on le hecking virtues not what actually makes people happy!"I get the feeling that these books (you can add "The Culture of Narcissism" and "Theology and Social Theory" too) are only considered "classics" because people feel they have to grant "the other side" some good points. That and people want to build them up so they have something to argue against.Absolutely no one assigns these for classes though, not even graduate seminars. They aren't drawn on in philosophy except for at reactionary Catholic departments (which are irrelevant) and they simply aren't drawn on at all in the other relevant fields like sociology. It's just like how C.S. Lewis isn't read outside flyover state Christian book groups.So why the "classic" label? Why the wasting of scarce attention on reactionary polemics? If you dislike liberalism, you're free to move to a trad paradise like Saudi Arabia or Russia.Even the virtue ethics people (who are a small minority) don't try to resurrect Aristotle and final causes. They know only naturalism makes sense. They try to distance themselves from this stuff.It's pure /lit/ pseud bait that serious scholars don't read, and this can be seen from open syllabus. You are told about them just so you know how to cite the reactionary ramblings in the right spot.Deneen's "Why Liberalism Failed" is similarly /lit/ /chud bait that will not doubt become a "classic" decades from now when people try to be magnanimous about how reactionaries aren't actually the pseuds postering as aristocrats and tradlarpers they really are. Nuff said.
>>24730106It is true that intellectuals are happy to carve out room within a categorical niche to make room for themselves in a world where there's an unreadable amount of thinkers in any given space. However, every little past detail being meticulously catalogued doesn't mean everything is on the table. Let's not forget also, there's an insanely disingenuous strain of pseudointellectuals, who operate the logic of empire by encorporating every little nigger tribe's unique animistic """"epistemology"""" as "valid". You have to be profoundly retarded or openly ignorant of the history of thought to believe that there's much on the table at all -----which is a very similar problem, in that people are WILLING to look anywhere because of the big lack of definition. However, virtue-sucking-off obscure abbo religion, or doing Neo-neo-neo-neo platonism is rightfully unbelievable. We do have a few better-than-most answers currently though, pic related.
>>24732683Yes and no. We are in opposed camps here; I find Deleuze et al to be the deeply unserious ones. Postmodernism is useful in critique, but unsuitable as a solution. What has been clearly revealed is the many mistakes we have made. The best thing to do when you realize you have made a wrong turn is to retrace your steps. But in another sense, we agree. You are correct that there is a distinction between what we can responsibility adopt normatively, and what is actually available. And what is actually available includes much insane, trite, pseudo-intellectual bullshit. As well as defunct ignorance. Perhaps this serves the current needs of institutional power, capital and the attention economy. Dark days.
>>24729037>Absolutely no one assigns these for classes though, not even graduate seminars.Mate, I literally did a masters course last year that was dedicated to the works of Alasdair MacIntyre
>>24729209Crypto-reactionary crypto-chud. He's smart enough to package his child apologetics in an appealing looking poison pill at least.>>24729048"Virtue" as a concept is inherently normative, reactionary, and conservative.
do anglo niggas be forced to read dem trash?>alasdair who?>philip who?
This book is dogshit. Complaining about the mediocrity of the art establishment is something; but if you do, don't be even more mediocre than them. Just name drops imageboard and memes for nothing, the style is annoying. Could've been worse, it's just a bit more mediocre than the lib art culture it makes fun of throughout the whole book
>>24732994You're not the first to say it, not even in this thread. The irony is that his novel is the serious work, while his "haha DEI" work was under a different pseudonym and deliberate nonsense, BUT sent to a bunch of no-name online magazines. This Calamari guy is leagues above the magazines he played his big prank on (and did supposedly have some more serious indie lit connections, but still). It's also wild to me how he talks about how he>wanted to see how much offensive stuff I could put into "Femoid"earlier, yet still tries to bill it as serious work.And not only is his name mud for the whole farce, but his earlier publisher supposedly put in a bunch of work on editing, which Aaron walked away with at the end; the book McBussy is publishing is actually identical page-for-page to what Calamari released (and then pulled). It's a grey zone, but that's the bigger fuck-up in my eyes: he has made it clear he will fuck with you and then straight rip you off.
>>24732994>from what i've seenPost an excerpt at least
>>24733626
>>24733626>>24733639
>>24733639he dropped a tannhauser reference and some idiot thought this was an uneducated black woman?
What's the most cutting piece of dialogue you've ever read/heard?
...if he'd had more brains, he wouldnt have blown them out.
"Have you ever seen a human heart? It looks like a fist dipped in blood."
Probably that section of dialogue in A Farewell To Arms where Frederic out of nowhere uses the N-word.
>>24733465pretty much everything Morpheus says in The Matrix
“Impolite, uncivil, brutal, infamous, cowardly rascal, thou hast brought shame upon my house; thou hast done me the greatest injury; thou hast refused to lie with my wife.”
