Most so called "infohazards" are just knowledge about dangerous things, but nothing maddening or reality-bending or shaping in themselves. True infohazards is the kind that leaves you a gibbering madman raving at the moon, true to Lovecrafts endings in his writings.
>>25184564What about that woman who left an elite party talking about how they were sacrificing and eating people? Info hazard seems like it is real, but it’s something you encounter not read.
>>25182868An infohazard that will actually drive you obsessively mad is the connection between sisters, mirrors, and death. I'm a changed man. It's all I can think about and I see the dissolution of the self in everything I look at. There's really no difference between an infohazard and being actually a little schizo, or at least suicidally depressed. This unnameable idea is making me not able to interact with other people or the world properly anymore.
This leads me to believe that maybe it's not any specific ideas that turn you into a raving lunatic, but seeing connections, ruminating in a thought loop acting as a closed system, and the obsession pulling you further into the void and into death in the extremes it demands of you.
>>25184564But a combination of thoughts and actions isJudas Iscariot was Mad before he killed himself
>>25184314Yep. It's truly evil, the burdens they place on the minds of the masses. They aren't built to handle it.
pic unrel. Most arguments against suicide I've read are incredibly weak and essentially unsubstantiated when subject to hard questioning. Kant and Aristotle are especially distasteful, and I find their legalistic arguments to be feeble and disengaged from the subject. They strike me as people who can't comprehend suicidality and thus argue from a flat and simplistic perspective. Surprisingly, economists like Adam Smith and Marx, whom I wouldn't consider to be particularly strong moral or existential philosophers, lay groundwork to extrapolate a reasonably succinct line of thought pertaining to suicide. Suicide is discouraged because people are human capital, thus a suicide is a value loss for perspective stakeholders and beneficiaries. Those who benefit most from your labor contributions are at the head of enterprises which hold monopolies on media and culture, thus steering society at large to be deeply disapproving of the taking of one's own life.This is a cynical argument, but it's also a practical argument. At the heart of Kantian and Aristotelian arguments against suicide there is a supposition of altruism as the motivation for these ideas when I have never actually observed altruism as the working motivation for any existent thing.Forgive me if this is garbled, I have a severe case of logorrhea.
>>25183417Now, I would to add that I am not necessarily saying that people are incapable of acting benevolently or in the pursuit of common interest, but rather that selfish desires are the basis for all actions benevolent or malevolent. I am not in the vanguard of Freudian thought, I have many, many reservations with him, but there is considerable truth to his structural model of the psyche and that human beings in their fundament are driven by libidinal and egoic desires above all things that can only later be sublimated into ideals such as benevolence or altruism.
Read Jung. But what is the argument for suicide in the first place? Escaping pain? Do you even know why you have the pain in the first place? Pain is a boundary that tells you when you’re living your life wrongly. Learn the causal sequence of your own false beliefs that led you to this painful place and then you will live well. Repeat ad infinitum, for man is a dynamic creature. You suffer because of blind assumption. Suicide is like burning your entire house down because you have a squeaky door hinge, just fix it. If you’re looking for an ethical argument then Nietzsche’s ethics goes hand in hand with this, and to my mind its the only serious ethical argument. The good that ethics must pursue is relative to us, the only good is what is good for us, i.e. our wellbeing. Suicide does not empower us except in very rare circumstances.
>>25183417I legitimately never saw this as a complicated issue, I live life because I find it to be a joyful experience. The only moment where I would consider suicide is if things are bleak and miserable AND I feel completely powerless, so far I've managed to remain healthy, sane, been able to call everyone retarded, so I keep my optimism even in moments of depression, because I know I have myself, and some power left in me. Most days are boring, I'd like every day to be a joyful experience, but I content myself with a few days in a year, and I think even this little of happiness if enough, and that's how most humans are and can cope living in this mid world, with no aspiration but no struggles, bored with a few good days.
>>25183417One of the problems of suicide is it is a potential social contagion. It can be in a weak form, like copycat suicides or being inspired by that Netflix show 13 reasons why. Or in a more severe form. Like Hitler killing himself in his bunker along with many in his high command. When morale was collapsing and complete defeat was near many contemplated and followed through on suicide.Preventing suicide increases confidence. Allowing suicide deceases confidence
>>25183417every day is a gift, you faggot
Both Patrick Bateman and Mac the Knife are presented as personifications of capitalism as killers. There are some similarities such Bateman being obsessed with high-end brands, and Mac being similarly fussy in making distinctions between high-end furniture.But otherwise they seem to diverge. Mac only kills as business or where it is simply expected of him and proper for a killer to do so. Same thing with fucking underage girls and prostitutes, mostly because it is proper to his class of criminal--the child who is drugged and raped mentioned at the beginning was presumably not even raped by Mac, rather it was suggested he charged others for it. "Off work" he isn't even particularly violent, just a sort of bourgeois who is incidentally a career killer Taken as personifications of evil, Bateman is evil qua mental sickness, whereas Mac the Knife is evil qua banality as Hannah Arendt describedWhich is a more accurate portrait of pure evil? Or capitalism?
>>25184652Of course. Unions would inevitable have more and more favorable contracts and more and more leverage. Laws are passed in reponse to that happening
>>25184348>Mac only kills as business or where it is simply expected of him and proper for a killer to do so. Same thing with fucking underage girls and prostitutes, mostly because it is proper to his class of criminal--the child who is drugged and raped mentioned at the beginning was presumably not even raped by Mac, rather it was suggested he charged others for it. "Off work" he isn't even particularly violent, just a sort of bourgeois who is incidentally a career killer"Yeah I'm a murderer and a child rapist but really I can just toggle it off and be normal" is complete drivel. Even the people we know who factually did those things are not normal, they can't even adequately pretend since the psychopathy radiates off them.
>>25184711Macheath is not a realistic character, he is a satire on the idea of the gentleman gangster just as Macheath is in the original Beggar's Opera is a satire of the trope of the gentleman highwayman. Both should be seen in the vein of Martin in Verhoeven's Blood and Guts. But Macheath was after all also in the army with Jackie "Tiger" Brown, and it is made clear that they did those sorts of things in the army. In the book The Short-Timers, Animal Mother brags about hos he blew a lottle girl's head off because he was trying to rape her and couldn't catch her. Watch the 197/'s documentary Winter Soldier. Your way of thinking is comforting I'll admit but it is clear our ruling class has no scruples about massacring innocent children and they can behave quite respectably. That is part of the point of the work.
>>25184647>Communism would inevitably gradually come about2 more weeks bro just 2 more weeks believe me
>>25184348Eichmann in Jerusalem is the most brainless inane dogshit I have ever read in my life. Arendt was not a philosopher, she was just fucking them.
This book is reddit. Pure reddit. I spent the entire time reading it repeating the words "This is reddit, this is memes, this is reddit, this is memes..." under my breath.I fucking hated it. I was writhing around on the floor in front of my sofa for the last 30 pages it was so painful
>>25184416Oh no, I’m so afraid that a bunch of /v/ tourist teenagers are going to say mean things about a writer I’m indifferent to.
>>25184416What plot is that?
>>25182658>I spent the entire time reading it repeating the words "This is reddit, this is memes, this is reddit, this is memes..." under my breath.
>>25182675>mfw reading that scene
>>25184393That was a good scene. I also liked the scene where he was describing the war crime of British candies.
that's what I think
poetry has never really been defined as an art form. for most of history it was not even written down, it was performed verbally, often accompanied with music. but today poetry is just considered something written down, which has little in common with its most common form for thousands of years. nobody even really knows what poetry means
I keep hearing how Shakespeare stole from other works before himHow true is this?Which works specifically did he steal from?
>>25183170Edmund Spenser and George Daniel
>stole Loser cope
>>25183693What would you call it then?
>>25178970Impossible to say. Most plays from that era didn't survive.
>>25183976>Most plays from that era didn't survive.How? it was the 1500's surely they had a relatively good cataloging process by that time
what's your favourite short story?
november 22 2013 entry in my diary desu
>>25184182Race at Morning - Faulkner
>>25184182Nevsky ProspektAli Baba and the Forty ThievesThere Are No Thieves in This Town
>>25184182Infinite Jest
The Crocodile, by Dostoevsky.
Part 1 was kino. Parts 2 & 3 were meh.
>>25179234holy seethe KEK. gene wolfe is ultimate manchild core tho
>>25179181it filters secular folk.
>>25183795>they're not manchildcore except the one I personally don't likeuh-huh
>>25179234solaris is kino thoughever
>>25184741he said, soifacing with his switch 2
>Intellectually competent main character>An understanding of history and geopoliticsThis web novel mocks every single Mexican fiction writer, that's both laughable and depressing.Why does Latam literature have to be obsessed with garbage that has nothing happening, but it's written in 'pretty prose'?
>>25184689It's just a webnovel, not a webcomic, kinda like the ones you'd find on wattpad and shit.
>>25184701Oh, I see.I do see your point that traditional literature may feel stagnant when you compare it to these modern experiments.It feels fresh and light to read. I wonder if a full fledged novel with the same concept could even work. Probably not. The lack of detail and focus on storytelling makes it compelling, easier to write, and the author can be freely whimsical.Thanks for sharing. I had never really put too much attention to the wattpad-webnovel community but I guess there are wortwhile things to read.
>>25184701By the way, if you want to read about the actual post independentist mexico, guillermo prieto is the best source.But very hard to find. Probably untranslated.
>>25183937>either AI image or terribly drawn>isekai slop>appeal to thirdworlders
>>25184747Go shove a MIGA dildo up your ass, Trumpanzee
how do you properly annotate your books? i feel like an idiot just underlining and drawing around paragraphs i find essential or like the phrasing
>>25184275This poster hates women
>>25183611>how do you properly annotate your bookPencil. Your own Head/Foot Notes [numbered or proprietary symbols]. Edge margin 'brackets' straight down the edge of larger sections of interest. [(<>)] ect. indicating discrete passages, and as cutouts, themselves summarize the content in brief. Redaction of superfluous passages, or light 'highlighting' with diagonal hashmarks. Keyword Headers adjusted either side and below the page number for quick reference of topics, whatever. Circled page numbers, blacked out page numbers (or ellipses). Commentary Top Margin, Exposition Bottom Margin, Side Margins reserved for page cross reference, and signs indicating interest, numbers/letters ect.Read like an editor and mark out the significant from the tertiary. Use a scale of underlinining and bracketing significance + numbering and (sub)lettering events/arguments. Restate ambiguous passages in your own words. The main thing is keeping track of your engagement with the text and develoment of understanding, and marking things in such a way that facilitates rapid recall, and much more fluid subsequent readings-- eventually they'll allow you to go straight to the passage you have in mind by feel.
>>25184468>Restate ambiguous passages in your own words.I used to do this, but I feel it’s more conducive to familiarise yourself with the lexicon therein. Not that it matters much either way. I’m just speaking from my experience.
>>25184282Don't we all?
>>25183682hahahaha, merely thinking that someone put efforts in doing this makes me laugh
>Our starting point will be not the modern theory of evolution but the traditional doctrine of involution. We do not believe that man is derived from the ape by evolution. We believe that ape is derived from the man by involution. We agree with De Maistre that savage peoples are not primitive peoples, in the sense of original peoples, but rather the degenerating remains of more ancient races that have disappeared.
>>25184679Yes the astrology proves it, I read it in woman's world
>>25184043porridge?
Macroevolution isn't real.
>materialist retards got filtered by this quoteHilarious.
>>25184658>>25184679Yes. Cope.
What am I in for?
A lot of humor including spoofing Daoism and Chinese culture
What's the /lit/ approved translation for this?
It's Buddhist propaganda that retards misinterpreted and now only use for their anime power level autism arguments.
>So shall the Son of man be THREE DAYS and THREE NIGHTS in the heart of the earth.>Destroy this temple, and in THREE DAYS I will raise it up.>After THREE DAYS I will rise again.>The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after THREE DAYS rise again.I don't get it. If Jesus died on Friday afternoon and was resurrected by Sunday morning, how is that THREE DAYS and THREE NIGHTS?
>>25184260It's ON the third day, not after three days. Thread just proves no one on /lit/ reads.
margaritas ante porcos
>>25184260He probably spent a miraculous extra day in Hades going back in time to minister to all the damned who died before his coming#thatallshallbesaved
>>25184670>It's ON the third day, not after three days.The bible literally says AFTER THREE DAYS
>>25184292>>25184284
Where are /lit/ people in real life? How do I get a book club of people as autistic as me and the people on /lit/? I don't mean faggots who read Cormac McFaggot or retards who vaguely like Socrates. I mean the schizo who learned Greek to read Proclus in the original while working at a taco restaurant and not getting laid for 14 years. I only want severely autistic friends.I will never, ever use Discord for any reason. I will never talk to anyone who uses Twitter for any reason. I want /lit/ friends in real life. I can't take it anymore. All the "smart" people I know are STEM PhDs who watch retarded documentaries about quantum physics and then get high and spitball wacky ideas in their “free time”. It's NOT ENOUGH. Reality itself seems thin and alien. I joined a Plato reading group and it was just 120 IQ midwit normies who wanted to sprinkle a dash of Plato on their otherwise normal lives. IT'S NOT ENOUGH. I don't want to talk about basic bitch podcast Stoicism once every few months with a laser biochemist who hates talking about his own work and doesn't give a shit about science or anything but ordering junk on amazon and exercising. I don't want to talk to WOMEN about Jane Austen because I read Jane Austen just to have something real to talk about and I was excited they also read Jane Austen, only to find out that they are "1917"-watching mental children who read Jane Austen the same way they watch "Severance." I don't want to read Kant’s Critique of Pure Reason so I can talk to some positivist faggot who thinks it’s about empirical cognition, just to find out his entire reading is based on reddit posts. I don't want to talk to “””atheists””” who parrot Hitchens and haven’t read a word of Augustine, because they think the RETARDED EVANGELICALISM they were raised in is the summit of theism. I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO SOI-DISANT PHILOSOPHERS WHOSE KNOWLEDGE OF EVERYTHING THEY BUILD THEIR GAY IDENTITY ON COMES FROM SUMMARIES AND DUMBASS FUCKING BLOGS AND REDDIT!!!I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!!! I HATE THIS PLACE! I NEED TO BREAK FREE! I WANT TO TALK TO A FAT SOCIALLY ABNORMAL GUY WHO LEARNED SANSKRIT BECAUSE A THREAD ON 4CHAN TOLD HIM IT WAS COOL!! I WANT TO MEET THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN TRYING TO READ THE ENTIRE ST. JOHN'S BOOK LIST OR BLOOM'S CANON WHILE LIVING WITH THEIR MOM!!! NO MORE QUIRKY PEOPLE, NO MORE INTERNET-BRAINED NORMIES AND NORMIFIED INTERNET TEACHING GAY MILLENIALS, I WANT REAL ACTUAL SCHIZOS AND I WANT THEM FUCKING NOW!!!! WHERE DID ALL THE REAL HUMANS GO?!?!?!? WHERE'S THE GUY TRYING TO WIN A FIELD'S MEDAL TO THE TOTAL DETRIMENT OF HIS PERSONAL LIFE WHILE PHONING IN A MECHANICAL ENGINEERING DEGREE BECAUSE HIS BROWN DAD WANTS HIM TO "GET A REAL JOB?" I KNEW HIM ONCE!!! HE WAS MORE INTERESTING THAN THESE BLOG-READING, PODCAST-LISTENING, TWITTER- AND DISCORD-USING FUCKING FAGGOTS!!!!!!!!
>>25184055I have been here long enough to remember the sort and I'm still here.I'm not near as bright as anyone you describe though, so I wouldn't be able to form part of your secret club.I really tried learning ancient greek, and do know enough to impress some people. To "impress" as no one really cares if you know some greek. And it is so much easier to find translations, and so time consuming to learn a language.Time goes by so fast you quickly stop being an edgy teenager, and if you lack the talent (or audacity) to make it, you realize the only thing that stops you from killing yourself or total insanity is becoming a wageslave.Actually, I don't think anyone can make it in this time and age. Have you seen the best sellers? The public does not reward talent, but mediocrity. I guess these people who aimed high either became wageslaves or killed themselves or just married. Who knows.As long as the world punishes genius, we will all continue to be mediocre or die.
>>25184203Fuck you dude I graduated college with honors. I have been offered promotions multiple times at my blue collar job and turned them down, didn’t even apply. I also intentionally sought a no-skill job because I am so disgusted with the likes of you. I’d rather be poor than engage with normie society. I know you think it’s cope (you’d really give up ENDLESS AMAZON PACKAGES??) but it is completely true. I hate you and everything you believe in and I hope you die in a fucking fire.
>>25184055People like that are probably more common than you might think, they're just very reclusive and you'd rarely ever encounter them outside of the internet.
>>25184055I feel like a loser doing it, but check out meetup __dot__ com and look for book club. You join the group on the website and then show up to the meeting.I'm near DC and I just found a history of philosophy book club (last 3 authors are Vico, Montesquieu, & Pascal), a classic literature club (last 3 readings are To The Lighthouse, Emily Dickinson poems, and Stoner (lol))... there's also a history book club and a lit fic meetup in a local suburb. There's probably something near you provided you live close to a big metro area.
>>25184055Iol, I like your rage and passion. Finding a good friend is hard, I feel very alone too, even on /lit/, I think the only way I could find an actual friend is make a great thing, a good work, that is somewhat popular but also reveals a lot of my values, so that people can feel what I am, how intelligent I am etc. and contact me if they feel like it, alas I'm too lazy and retarded to do that, but not retarded enough to like the common man
I wrote a fiction story that was mid, so I recreated it into this weird "poem", made it rhyme. I'm ready to put this writing project aside now. How is it? It the story understandable? It's 3k words, which is like less then 10 pages. I was trying to be like Homer's Odyssey because I am autistic.
>>25182483for fuck sake, forgot the fucking link ;>https://pastebin.com/TpjdxQEq
>>25182488sorry, i don't read
>>25182483sorry, I can't read, been awake 24hrs too tiredbut I'll say thisI hate rats, I hate that ratatouille, a good movie, is about rats, a horrible creature. I wish rats would all disappear even though I don't think I've seen one other than at a pet store, I just dislike them existing. It's like humans, I'm eugenicist you know, I wish we could wipe everything below 105IQ and start other
>>25183026shit take. rats are cool and smarter than a lot of people i know. every person should have a rat friend to help with daily tasks.I have an issue with albanians though.
