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>Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb
>Archive
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg
>Goodreads
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
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>>24083241
Because OP is a mental midget here's to previous thread >>24075296
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>>24082918
It's so-so. Worth reading only because it's unique and pretty brief.
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>>24083241
Is there any TOR double bind edition for short sun? Something like shadow and claw or sword and citadel, I really like the paper quality although not a big fan of the spine vomit in there
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>>24083203
If you're looking to write an ontological mystery or want books about strange worlds you might want to check out
Dichronauts
House of Leaves
The City & The City
Piranesi
The Inverted World
The Lathe of Heaven

Some non /lit/ recommends would be Houseki no Kuni, Made in Abyss and Homestuck.

My 2c is what you have in mind sounds really trite. Meta stuff in particular is very easy to overdo.
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>>24083232
can't even tell if that's parody or actually from the book desu
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>>24083372
i wish it was a parody
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>>24083372
i just opened the epub file of that book and found out it's real.
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>>24083336
thanks anon, appreciate the recs. i already read HnK and Abyss.
>sounds really trite
that's what i'm afraid of, that why i came here to hear some critique or maybe an idea or two. i feel llike i'm basically doing what's been done to death, but on the other hand i'm not some super talented writer so maybe i should just go with an already-tried idea and just try to refine it really well.
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Recently read:
>Erikson Fiends of Nightmaria
almost funny black humor on black magic, not bad
>Gillig Shepherd King duology
the first book had good dark gothic romantasy vibes, but the sequel wasnt as good; as a whole the series lack depth and it felt hacked
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yes
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>>24083443
It's way easier to get noticed if you're doing something unique, if that's something you care about.
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>>24083542
i think i'd rather just have a very solid story even if it's not unique or groundbreaking
on one hand i'd rather have people say "yeah it's nothing new, but the execution was great", than "yeah it's super unique but falls flat everywhere"
on the other hand, i would like to tray and make it at least a bit unique and standing out at least in some aspects of the story
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Tried reading Armor. Loved the first part, liked the second part, didn't even mind the POV switch all that much but the nauseatingly graphic puppy murder scene in part 3 made me drop it only halfway in. I just can't stomach that shit.
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>>24083725
You should keep at it.
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>>24083241
i love wolfe
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Post the
>last book you read
>current book you're reading
>next book you plan to read
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>>24083794
>3d render on the cover
yamero
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>>24083794
Project hail mary (rated 2/5)
Blindsight
Dont know yet (thinking about seveneves)
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>>24083241
Is there any realistic knights combat fantasy?
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>>24083241
*Insert "biggest TBOTNS fan reads TBOTNS for the first time" meme*
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>>24083833
checked.
>Seveneves
anon, no!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>24083847
I heard that this is pretty autistic about armor, etc

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13616278-the-red-knight
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>>24083856
oh no? I thought it was semi good? should I just skip?
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>>24083857
I love armor autism! I haven't seen any books with it though. I was watching this https://youtu.be/ds-Ev5msyzo?t=753 and it made me crave something more realistic than magical swords and arrows sliding into armor. I'll soon look at the description of the book you linked.
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>>24083863
Yes.
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show_book/1029811-sffg?book_id=22816087
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>>24083877
oh damn. Missed that. Thanks for the warning
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>>24083857
If you want a fantasy book with about as realistic medieval combat, armor, and tactics (especially interesting) I would 2nd this recommendation. I would say the 1st book of the series is the peak though.
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>>24083877
So I really like the threebodyproblem series. Is there anything in that line that I should line up for my next read?
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>>24083930
I like the idea of reading all of what you listed. I've written it down, thanks anons.
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>>24083794
>last book
Broken Swordsman. Good first book of the trilogy because I'm hooked and it smells like it might involve the finale to this overall world; these characters most assuredly. A character from a side story is now grown up and gets involved with the main narrative so that's cool. The book does a good job of refreshing on past events and providing enough knowledge to understand what's going on.
This world has a 'holy' 'Jesus' figure, Ashal but he wasn't exactly a deity, he was a mortal but a natural mage (no training required) and he wanted to heal people and he was the best at it; so his father, out of jealousy of his powers and being an immortal 'being' himself had him hanged. Now he's reincarnated some 2000 years later and wants to keep healing again before people inevitably find out.
>current book
While in the mood, I am rereading pic related. Five short stories forming one overall and is rather lengthy. Another fun sword&sorc involving a soldier who gets displaced through time while hunting a mage. It has sharp objects, northern barbarian tribes, frigid white wastelands, soul-searching, witches, and a lil' bit of ol' magick.
>next
Probs continue on to book 2 of Unwilling God.
>>24083831
Lolz yeah they have their charm.
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>>24083379
how does someone write that, looks at it, say yep that's good. Send it to editor. Editor says yep that's good.
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>>24083232
>>24083378
>>24083379
>>24084019
That looks awful. What's it from?
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>>24083779
I just finished Latro in the Mist today. Going to read some school stuff next, then when I can find the time I'll start up The Wizard Knight.
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>>24084093
Meant for>>24083794
but this fits too
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>>24084076
freshest batch of sanderslop
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>>24083863
yeah unfortunately I would skip, and trust me I like Stephenson a lot. it's just not worth your time. interesting stuff with the technical side (which is always the case with Neal) where Seveneves is really about orbital mechanics ; but, the characters are all incredibly uninteresting and he slaps you hard in the last third of the book. Go play Kerbal Space Program and read some college books instead.

anons how is Greg Bear's Blood Music? I have seen this novel mentioned quite a bit throughout the years but I've never read it, nor have I ever read Bear before. what a great book cover by the way. if I randomly saw this in a store I'd buy it in a heart beat, similiar to what I did years ago when buying CDs were a thing.
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>>24084115
Thanks for the insight. will put it at the end of my list
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>>24084115
I haven't read anything from stephensons at all, which one would you recommend
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>"Cadsuane," he said softly, " do you believe that I could kill you? Right here, Right now, without using a sword or the Power? Do you believe that if I simply willed it, the Pattern would bend around me and stop your heart? By... coincidence?"
And you guys tell me Sandy Brandy can't write kino.
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>>24084138
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/43737
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>>24084145
Snow Crash is recommended if you like cyberpunk (and a bit of commentary on cyberpunk..and ancient Sumerican culture). Anathem is good if you like comfy monastic monks that are very intellectual and focused on philosophy and argumentation. Anathem is my favorite of Neal's
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>Eragon but good
Read this. It's 2000s era fantasy in the modern faggy era.
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>>24084299
What is this, a picture for ants?
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>>24084306
Bound and Broken
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>>24084299
>trilogy
>generic ass book names
>generic ass book covers
>dragons, fantasy dark ages, etc
why recommend such uninspired drivel? This is why fantasy is still lowbrow lit.
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>>24084333
>why recommend such uninspired drivel
It's good
>trilogy
There are 5 ppanned books and a novella in between each
>dragons, fantasy dark ages, etc
If you hate fantasy stuff why read fantasy?
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>>24084342
I hate generic fantasy. Have better taste and read something good, not a miked out series
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>>24084349
>generic fantasy
that means absolutely nothing, anon
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Our boy Matt loves this series. He likes Malazan and stopped pretending to like sanderslop.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LjPPyLaIcCw
https://youtube.com/watch?v=u4jAQh4MR7s
https://youtube.com/watch?v=xNi5BqNh8tw
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>>24084357
you know what it is stop lying. But read my post again if it helps
>>24084333
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>>24084349
>I hate generic fantasy
What does this even mean? If you hate classic fantasy stuff then you're reading the wrong genre. Even your precious pretentious deconstructions are filled with it
>Have better taste and read something good
Like what? I'm curious to know what jind of drivel you read
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>>24084342
Nothing about your post makes it sounds like an enticing read, you're have to do more to explain what makes it stand out in a positive way
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>>24084391
If you don't want to read it then just ignore it. You'de acting like I'm shoving it down your throat.
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>>24084370
Here's a quick list of some one off fantasy novels that are better than most milked series. I could think of some more later if you'd like.
The mask of the sorcerer
Pavane
The broken sword
Tigana
There are doors
The sorcerers House
Little, big
The throne of bones
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>>24084399
Sure, I was only giving some advice that it helps to explain why something is good before reccomending it
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>>24084415
>I was only giving some advice that it helps to explain why something is good before reccomending it
Or you can just say hey I like this, you all should try this too.
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>>24084402
Of your list I've read thess
>The broken sword
This was decent
>Tigana
Dogshit. You may as well read historical fiction or even actual history instead of these lame set pieces.
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>>24084446
To be fair, that doesn't work here. /sffg/ is full of normalfags who will reread the same 1-3 Bestselling™ works all throughout their life, while complaining about or lambasting every single other work or author discussed. This has been the norm since the creation of /sffg/.
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I shall write a fantasy book that sffg will approve!!!

It will have a male protagonist, fights some random made up races of lizard men, fuck the hot lizard women with his huge mammalian cock, incest, and lots of pointless bloodshed!
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Why is he so fat? And why has his writing declined so badly?
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>>24084587
Too rich, and his writing improved. He's adding new words that are easily accessible to new readers. His fandom aged out, not that he wrote worse.

Way of Kings was 15 years ago, and if you were a Sanderson fan then at 20, I question why you're still reading him at 35 and haven't moved onto books more suitable for your age
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>>24083794
i picked up the first law, from a previous thread recommendation but i didn't like it much.
some characters talked in what i would describe as a 12 y/o approximation of what medieval nobleman sounds like.
nothing really surprising happened, i felt like i was just going through the motions.
i don't think i'll be reading the other ones.

next one on my list is Cradle.
is that one a bit more lively?
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Fellow Anons. Can you recommend books with Magical Engineering? Something like the Daniel Black Series, gets summoned to a new world, gets magic, uses magic to build Earth-esque technology, guns, APC, dirigible, etc. The MC just needs to be a competent person who uses his head to solve issues, like the Industrial Strength Magic books.

No anime, no manga, no chink webnovels, no korean shit, no lightnovel shit. No struggling with the bad guy only to get beat down every time, and sacrificing yourself for a girl you just met like old publishing house books.
I want a real story, not some book filled with chink tropes, friendship conquers all, and an incompetent MC who gets bullied by the girls he is with. The work being published would be required. No random stream of consciousness from royal road, I want a (supposed) proofread work that has been put into a single book. Even if book two is a WIP.
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>>24084587
Greed and Gluttony
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What does /sffg/ think of this?
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Any really gay SF?
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>>24084629
your life's story
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>>24084629
Samuel R. Delany
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>>24084612
There isn't any such book. It doesn't exist. Even the one you mention doesn't meet your requirements.
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>>24084678
Daniel Black and Industrial Strength magic does met my requirements. That is why I want more like that. I am running short of Magical Engineering books.

Read most books in here except the female authors.
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/98372.Magical_Engineering
https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/magical-engineering
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>>24084612
Watch anime with mechs. Like Magic Knight Rayearth or Escaflowne. But you don't want anime, so you're out of luck. There's that one darling in the Franxx rip off
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>>24084700
I was thinking of a book series where humans develop magi-tech to get around space so they got space ship and mecha. But he wouldn't want that.
There's another 5 book fantasy series where the MC learns he has magic and explores it much like an engineer (one of the big 'feats' of the series was making a whole bunch of small bombs to purposely demolish a long pathway). But there's retconned cuckoldry which really soured the entire thing.
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>>24084728
>a book series where humans develop magi-tech to get around space so they got space ship and mecha.
Glynn Stewart's Mars series?
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>>24084748
Nah, it is some dude's random self-published series. Universe on Fire by Ivan Kal. He has a few other works like Infinite Realm is his biggest if you delve into royalroad/litrpg shit.
The story with UoF is that humans get into space and immediately get quarantined back to Earth by aliens. So they accidentally a dimensional hole to another Earth, except this universe has magic, and they become friendly enough with the locals and their own investigations to learn/develop/incorporate magic into their own techs.
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Say something I'm giving up on you
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>>24084771
Ohh. Yeah. I read that. Didn't like it much. Rather infinite Realm.
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>>24084402

Read and loved The Broken Sword last year. I got Pavane ready to read sometime this year, but I also have Moore's Bring the Jubilee.
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>>24084587
surrounded himself with yes-men
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Books with such vibes (picrel), but not Lovecraft's Innsmouth or Ligotti's Harlequin . Something about decaying towns/nature in rural USA/Europe, maybe even without supernatural. Are there any other writers, who write like Lovecraft (concerning New England) in terms of prose and concepts, like about Lovecraftian Country? Stephen King, maybe, but I don't like his prose, not so melancholic and poetic.
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>>24084623
>>24084402
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This came up on my phone posting advertisement. Do I help anon with his slop?
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>>24084596
>and haven't moved onto books more suitable for your age
Please tell me what books I should be reading at 36 years old, anon-kun?
Not that I'm defending Sanderson, I dropped him when he threw aside Rithmatist, Warbreaker and Elantris sequels for that YA space girl series.... then just kept pushing YA stuff.
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>>24084822
Laird Barron’s handling of rural Washington State is quite similar, and he does it justice. Reading his work reminds me of the times I drove around the Olympic peninsula, especially near Gray’s Harbor and Hoquiam. August Derleth also captures Wisconsin this way in his Ithaqua story cycle.
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>>24084841
Read King Arthur, read Sleepy Hallow, hell read this anon's slop he posted
>>24084833
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>>24084857
>rural Washington State
Short story collections or The Croning?
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>>24084878
His short stories certainly. I have not read The Croning, so I couldn’t say either way.
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>>24084822
What is this from?
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>>24083241
assuming I'm not ready to drop serious money on Folio Society editions or what-have-you, are Canterbury Classics Leather-Bound editions a decent way to get certain classics in hardcover?
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>>24083335
there is an omnibus edition that is hard to come by. it's 3 books so splitting it would be weird.
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>>24083877
Can't believe I gave that piece of shit a 3
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>>24083725
>Tried reading Armor.
Just watch Evangelion, it's better than the book.
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>>24083241
what is this image from? I can't find any 4-book omnibus edition, only the two two-book ones
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>>24085046
Anyone have any physical editions of William Hope Hodgeson's Nightlands they'd recommend?
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>>24083794
>last book
>current book
>next book (not SFF though)
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>>24083847
if it were really realistic it would be mostly about food logistics and dysentery, relatively few of medieval wartime deaths were from actual battle
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>>24084612
>No anime, no manga, no chink webnovels, no korean shit, no lightnovel shit.
you described the most anime-ass isekai premise you can think of but want no anime?
your only option is gonna be english-language webnovels written by weebs who WISH they were making anime
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Need some good smut recommendations. A fun and decent story would be a plus.
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>cosmere shitpost reddit forbid people from criticizing WaT
>comments disagree
It's starting.......
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>>24084822
I cannot OVERSTATE how annoying I find it when western comics RANDOMLY bold words for no REASON.
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Huhh... Hello, class...

I will be presenting my report on... the book that I read... huh... Titan... by... John Varley.

So... about the author... John Varley was born in 1947 in Texas. In 1969 he attended the Woodstock Music and Art Fair where he took a lot of drugs and fucked hippie feminist chicks, an experience that would profoundly affect his future work as a writer. Later he read "Rendezvous with Rama" and thought "this is lame, nothing happens, I can do better". And he did. In 1979, "Titan" was published, to be followed later by 2 sequels, which I have not read, yet.

So... synopsis. In the future, NASA has given up even trying to send normal, well-adjusted people into space. After an anomaly is detected on a satellite of Saturn, The Discovery One is built and sent to study it.

Characters. The crew is composed of 4 women and 3 men. The captain is a not too annoying girlboss. Another woman is a cute kind of asexual astronomy nerd. The other twos are both clones of a top scientist grown in vats. They consider themselves to be sisters (but it doesn't stop them from having sex with each others). One of the man is a tall handsome black doctor that all the women want to fuck (but he has disappointed the girlboss captain sexually). The other is like just some guy in his 40s (girlboss likes him better though). And the other guy is an INCEL. He almost literally says "women owe me sex" at some point. He fucks the asexual girl but it doesn't count because she's not into it.

Plot. Upon approaching their destination, they detect a strange structure which they soon determine is artificial. A "Stanford torus" 1528 km across. They are ordered to make contact but things do not go as planned. They must face many adversities and interpersonal struggles in their attempt to get back home.

So... my review is this book is very good... but weird. The author has a very particular HERMAPHRODITE CENTAURS fetish for which he appears to be completely unashamed, which I found both admirable and disgusting. On top of that, I have counted 2 cases of violent raep, 2 (separate) cases of involuntary insemination and 1 case of forceful centaur ejaculation (that was not rape given the circumstances), which some people might find disturbing. If you liked Rendezvous with Rama but thought "man I wish Clarke would lit up the crack pipe" then you will like this novel.
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>>24085323
>futa centaur rape
now we're talking
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>>24085060
a story retold or the original?
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>>24085323
OK but seriously the beginning of this novel is GREAT. It was better than I had hoped. Honestly pretty intense and vivid. This is exactly the sort of stuff I want from a "going into the unknown" first-contact story. The torus is HUGE (about half of the diameter of the moon) and its inner workings are elaborated on and matter to the story. Good world-building there. Then most of the novel is a "journey" that doesn't hide its inspirations. It turns into more of a fantasy novel in style which I'm not super fond of. Honestly some boring parts there. And might be more interesting if you're high. Hard to explain. And I don't want to spoil it too much. The revelations at the end made it more than worth it for me (more world-building). Not a long read. Kept me wondering what would happen next enough to keep turning the pages fast.

I wish they made a kind of "psychedelic" film/miniseries out of it (but there's no way in hell it would be done well).

>>24085114
Read "Titan" I guess if the setting appeals to you. The smut is there but I dunno. I dunno what to think of it desu.
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>>24084587
Is Ozempic a sin in mormonism?
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>>24084862
>Read King Arthur
which version
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>>24085323
>non rape involuntary insemination by aliums
hmmmm
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>>24085529
Misunderstandings happen.
Please don't be so intolerant of different cultures.
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>>24084929
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Providence_(Avatar_Press)

There are two prequels to this story: The Courtyard and Neonomicon.
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>>24084243
Thanks will check them out.
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>>24085313
>Reddit
You knew what you signed up for. You cannot have dissenting opinions on any subreddit big enough.
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I finished She. It was very much a product of its time when it came to several concepts and ways of thinking, but it was written well enough to be engrossing and exciting despite the fact that the subject has become a common trope. In fact it had some really beautiful passages, in particular Holly's thoughts and his discussions with Ayesha. Another thing I really really liked, but that's probably because I'm a sucker for it, was the older civilisation that dwarfs what we already consider old. My favourite chapters were the ones where we're introduced to the tombs and temple of Kor, together with the fire dance. I ended up finding this dead city more interesting than Ayesha herself, although she was the most interesting character in the book anyway. Must have been those unattainable vistas Tolkien talked about. And speaking of Tolkien, I read this because I knew he'd liked the book and its pretty big influence on his own writing only clicked in the second half, when it became quite obvious with the mirror of Ayesha and the mummies and, of course, the fallen civilisation.
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post the most mind bending fantastical flight of fancy novel you've ever read
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>>24085671
>It was very much a product of its time
Stopped reading there
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>>24084196
He lost his grit 10 years ago
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>stormlight steadily decreases in quality with every novel
imagine waiting 30 years for stormlight 10
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>>24084587
He slowly got used to reddit praise and decided that's what people want.
Also he got too big for an editor to have any say, and the bunch of alpha and beta testers are yes-people.
Also he should have just stopped writing other books, because 1) It distracts him from the SA writing 2) Beginning of the WaT reads like his YA space opera book, that was written at the same time or a bit earlier, meaning he wasnt able to shift between genres and tones. That's an issue.
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This read like Eragon fanfiction, how the fuck is it rated so highly?
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it's over for sanderson
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/1hu9bhg/wind_and_truth_a_great_book_that_shows_sanderson/
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>>24085742
>This read like Eragon fanfiction
>how the fuck is it rated so highly?
Because the average that's what the average fantasy reader wants
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>>24085742
Isn't it just another coomer fanfic for women to shlick their meat to hiding under the fantasy genre tag?
Of course it's highly rated.
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>>24085742
Women love fanfiction, it's all they really want. Some established setting, but with most of the boring shit like plot removed and replaced by melodramatic romance.
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>>24085778
No way.
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>>24083794
I just finished "The Navigator's Children". It was the final book for "The Last King of Osten Ard" series. Tad Williams cannot write a good beginning to a series, but he can write a satisfying ending. It was strange to see the villain's wrapped up in the second-third of the book, but he did need the last third to give everything a satisfying ending to every character.
My main complaint for the series is that it makes no sense chronological. The series is a sequel to the "Memory, Sorrow and Thorn" series and is set 30 years later. But some characters are written as if the previous series was 50 years ago and the presence of grand-children supports the idea that it was written first as a 50 year age gap and then re-written to keep some of the old characters around.
It was still a good series, and there was enough meat on the bone to keep me going, but it wasn't as satisfying an ending as the "To green angel tower" with the motherly Rachel weeping at the return of the orphan kitchenboy Simon as the new king of the land, promising her peace, plenty, good cheer and love.
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>>24085742
>Best selling fantasy novel is fanfic of fanfic
grim
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>>24085955
Luv Tad Williams
Simple as
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>>24085955
>Memory, Sorrow and Thorn
Have you seen Jeff Brown covers? Fuck.
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Finally finished Wind of Truth.
What a an ass of the end of the (series) first half of the series.
Its safe to say that Dalinar, Kaladin and Shallan were the main characters of it and...
>OB was the book where Dalinar peaked and since then run with Stormfather in circles (Tell me truth, Stormfather! I WONT! x 10) untill he somehow stumbled upon the right answer
>Shallan has disappeared as a character it was relatively interesting to read about in OB, separated into three different persona - her, quirky her and boring her. Her arc in WaT has amounted to nothing + Adolin's kid
>Kaladin. This one i was really disappointed about. Dalinar at least had OB and overall well rounded arc. Kaladin on other hand felt like destined for way more interesting and cool shit than becoming a Herald (like everyone predicted and hoped it wont happen because its fucking boring) and fucking off to another planet with the bunch of losers. His arc in WaT was just dogshit. Out of left field attempt at romance with Syl, preachy therapy sessions, walking and talking, rather mediocre action scene and finale where he has died few minutes after saying 5th Oath. Thats some anticlimactic dogshit and im not even sure what does it mean for his future. Will he have the big arc in the back 5? Wont he? Book 10 will be released in 20 fucking years, by that moment i will probably not care about Stormlight Archive.
So what was the point of this lame ending for him? Damn.
Overall 2/5 book, id trimmed 700 of the pages and half of the characters and the story wont lose much, they barely have their own voices with his reddit tier prose and dialogues anyway.
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>>24086033
Wow, this guy really wants to be the next GRRM, huh? Couldn't come up with anything new so you combined the throne made of swords and dragons skulls from the Red Keep into one idea? Yawn. And is that the Fool from Robin Hobb? Yeah, yikes. Not going to be reading this one.
It does look pretty cool tho
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>>24086072
good one anon, i got a bit mad at you
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>>24085740
>Also he got too big for an editor to have any say, and the bunch of alpha and beta testers are yes-people.
It's worse than that, he's surrounded by far-left freaks who demand he puts LGBT and other gay shit pandering to them
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>>24085046
this edition isn't very convenient but it exists on certain book sites. pages are thin and it's very thick but it is a nice collector's item and the book jacket art work is cool.
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>>24084822
roadside picnic?
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“What are you?”

“I’m his therapist.”
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>>24086408
Therapy is hard. Perhaps that was my answer to Sanderson.
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>>24086033
apparently The Broken Binding only sells these to subscribers right now but it'll probably be available for purchase in like a year, fuuuuuuck
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>>24084608
>start reading Cradle
>expect traditional american/european fantasy because i didn't inform myself much about it
>look inside
>it's xianxia
i'm literally less than one chapter in and it already mentioned cultivation, a magic powerup mcguffin, clans and elders and realms.

i haven't actually read the genre before, but i find it hilarious how accurate it is to pic related
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>>24086635
Cradle is a big mashup of xianxia, wuxia, anime and western fantasy. It's a fun ride.
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I liked the Three body problem and Children of Time series, what should I read next?
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>>24086635
Lindon would be a much more tolerable character if he had a shred of Meng Hao's confidence and backbone.
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>>24086617
>apparently The Broken Binding only sells these to subscribers right now but it'll probably be available for purchase in like a year
What fucking retarded business model is that? Look at this shit. LOOK AT IT. People would line up to buy these.
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>>24086641
so what did you like in those?
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>>24086408
>be Walter Gibson
>channel your hypergraphia into writing Shadow novels
>live like a king during the Great Depression because you could write 10 000 words a day
Therapy is for losers.
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>>24086680
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>>24085319
It's as if they saw people bold and italicize words for emphasis and then copied it without knowing why they did it.
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>>24086635
resident cradle hater here. I think it sucks
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>>24086749
honestly, i don't think i can do 12 books of this stuff either, but i'm just trying to be entertained for a while
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>>24086680
>LOOK AT IT.
Could be better.
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>>24085068
Heh, I guess that's where part of the fantasy comes in.
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>>24086762
Well this is a whole other level of autism
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>>24086680
can confirm, that cover looks cool
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>>24086762
This is based but should have been drawn in old tapestry style.
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>>24086688
>10 000 words a day
Nowadays the only people doing that are romance fanfiction authors.
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>>24084115
I'm the guy who made the "what I read" about it. It's a book that made me feel like I'm urbexing in some extremely moldy apartment complex. That's all I can say.
>>24084243
I love Snow Crash. That's a good book. Very insightful and fun. It's like South Park of cyberpunk literature.
>>24084629
Forever War. Everyone ends up gay by 2020s.
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>>24086641
read Zones of Thought to see where tchaikovsky got his spiderfucker fetish from
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>>24086635
>i haven't actually read the genre before, but i find it hilarious how accurate it is to pic related
read I Shall Seal the Heavens. experience the true meng hao
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>>24086890
Different fag here
>80% through ISSTH
>no idea how all of this is going to end within the next 20%
I assume abruptly. Meng Hao is currently exterminating the Blacksoul niggas in the Eighth Mountain and Sea.
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>>24086885
>Everyone ends up gay by 2020s
real
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The only half decent chink novel is Lord of Mysteries
and that's only because it doesn't really get into the wuxia shit until the last third
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>>24084629
Swordspoint
Good book too.
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>>24086900
Oddly all the four other things happened...

Mpox
BRICS
Drag queen hour
Taliban retook Afghanistan
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>>24085474
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bets on when Sanderson will introduce transfolk into the cosmere?
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>>24085697
You might be missing out on some quality literature, anon.
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>>24086900
Checked. The UN actively encourages homosexuality at home while the MC fights the aliens on the another side of the galaxy. Even his mom gay.
>>24086990
Unironically this. Prophetic author. In the third book, the MC's ex gf was a mtf troon.
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>>24085474
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>>24086408
>>24086495
>The Winds of Winter comes out
>Jaime I
>He's been brought to Lady Stoneheart by Brienne not for revenge for the Red Wedding, but to become her therapist
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not riding in sanderson's stormlight bandwagon but i would like to know how the reddit fans and this community reviewed his winds and truth. i read his written dialogues in stormlight and i decided to evade his books forever after that.
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>>24087200
lots of toxic positivity mixed in with some criticism that often gets deleted/banned because it's reddit
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>>24087200
>not riding in sanderson's stormlight bandwagon
nobody here has been
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What are some light-hearted fantasy novels like Discworld or pic-related?
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>>24087134
I don't like that I laughed at this.
>>24087218
Discworld was one of my favorite series as a kid. How's The Goblin Tower?
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>>24087221
It's pretty good. Nothing groundbreaking but it's a solid 8/10.
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>>24087218
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>>24085313
wut? Sauce?
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>>24083794
Midnight Tides
Lolita and Shaman's Crossing
Foucault's Pendulum (greek translation) or Lord of The Rings (as I have only read it in greek 20+ years ago)
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Personally if a main character doesn't have something to distinguish them then i'm not really interested in continuing the story.
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>>24083241
I cant find back that one webpage. It was like a one page guide on how to write science fiction by some author or afficionados of the genre, it was a website maybe done in the 2000s, old site page, I'm pretty sure it's still up...
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>>24084587
He's not THAT fat

https://pdfupload.io/docs/d1fdf8e3
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there is no way meng hao has that much black ooze or whatever in him
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>>24087395
Reply to OP whenever you find it, anon. God speed!
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>>24087441
Brandon is fatter than GRRM these days who has actually lost a bit of weight
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>litprg story
>Is just a horror mystery novel with investigation and acting powers
Who enjoys this?
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Is Dan Simmons a fucking filthy kike or just a shabbos goy like Jewlon?
Never seen someone insert so much kike sucking off at random intervals, it's fucking jarring.
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>>24087546
me
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>>24087554
i haven't read his work but have interest in hyperion. go on.
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>>24087587
Not quoted but Hyperion is trash. Never understood the hype at all, basically the only thing of interest in the entire novel is the imagery of the Shrike.
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>>24087638
What would you recommend as a good SF novel?
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Shitty fantasy/dystopian YA novels are my guilty pleasure
Any recommendations?
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Where did you stop reading?
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Everyone is saying Wind and Truth is the worst one of the sanderson saga (I haven't read it)

it can't be worse than oathbringer, right?
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>>24087646
Retake back. I went on to the finish it, but the entire thing reads like you watch more anime than you do read books. Dumping a variety of fantasy names and terms is never interesting, and the first page is the most important. Some things like whether the castle is the heirloom itself is unclear. Your punctuation and pacing are also all over the place.
The entire thing reads fairly juvenile overall. I think you should keep trying. Go find some novels to read, maybe a book or two on style and sentence structure, then come back and reread what you wrote with a fresher mind a month or two later.
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>>24086762
amazing
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If you're looking for winter themed fantasy, this is it. It's extremely comfy, although it's about womemes being dumb as rocks and fucking things up for themselves and everyone else.
My new year's resolution is to have written at least one short story a month. For January, I will be stealing picrel and mixing it with some old English ghost story I read about a bride to be who runs off with her old lover on the eve of her wedding and disappears, until a storm decades later knocks over the tree in the middle of the village and reveals that her bastard of a lover killed her that night and buried her beneath it.
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I'm writing a portal fantasy novel with the protagonists being an adult man who lives in his parents' basement and a next-door neighbor who is a teenage girl.
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>>24087774
just like my japanese isekai
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>>24087799
ITS NOT ISEKAI ITS PORTAL FANTASY !!!
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>>24087799
>>24087804
I do think there's a meaningful distinction tbf
Although only because isekai explorations/subversions are still catching up to the stuff thomas covenant did in the 80's and moorcock started doing in the fucking 50's with eternal champion
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>>24087652
Rhythm of War is worse than Oathbringer.
>(I haven't read it)
You're anonymous. You don't need to pretend to be above Sandoslop.
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>>24083241
What hasn't been explored in science fiction yet? What's something new? Something that hasn't been done a lot already?
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>>24084299
>Eragon but good
Talking dragons as a plot point is gay.
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>>24085793
>Some established setting, but with most of the boring shit like plot removed and replaced by melodramatic romance.
And hardcore pornography, which they stupidly call "smut."
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>>24087857
just a tiny bit of light smut
>cut to pages of fully described sex that'd get you on a list if you were a male author
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>>24087587
I am the anon you quoted and the other anon is right. It's shit which starts out kind of interesting but gets shit around halfway through the first book and never really recovers throughout the whole series.
>>24087642
BOTNS or any of the dying earth infopic recs. Someone posts it here every so often.
Also Malazan if you like convoluted stories. other than those idk. I've gone through a lot of them and I'm never satisfied.
Probably gonna start Gormenghast next
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>>24087869
>can only recommend BotNS and Malazan
Wow, what a bot post!
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>>24087873
Eat shit. They're the only books that aren't trash.
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>>24087877
Go back to facebook and /r/fantasy, and stop shitting up the thread, normalfag nigger.
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>>24087882
insisting that 2 out of the 10 books you've ever read in the genre are the only good ones is actually this thread's tradition
Like you can go back a decade and find the same posts
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>>24087869
>BOTNS or any of the dying earth infopic recs
are the scifi you enjoy limited entirely to dying earth?
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>>24087904
No but I like the vibe, reflects my feeling and comprehension of reality very well
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The world *is* clearly dying. Even if humanity somehow makes it the planet will eventually die. Humanity won't make it to another planet. Arguably shouldn't.
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>>24087915
Nah, Earth will be fine long after we're gone!
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>>24087831
Isekais tend to be sloppier and have more anime tropes.
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>>24086762
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>>24087915
>>24087919
I think we should invade mars.
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>>24087893
I know, anon. Normalfags have destroyed this general by choosing their favorite sports team and shitting all over everybody who chose someone else, in a poor attempt to fit in, since most of /sffg/'s existence.
>>24087904
He's only read those three series.
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>>24087893
I've read tonnes of fantasy and sf though. Most of Iain Banks, LOTR/silmarillion, asoiaf, the blade itself trilogy, black company, shannara, Hyperion cantos.
They're just mostly shit.
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>>24087944
Oh, the Dying Earth series by Vance too. Probably others I'm forgetting.
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>>24087909
I see. I've only read The Night Lands but I've BOTNS on my shelf, probably about time I gave them a read. I'll give the infopics a look next time.
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>>24084097
this is a tier even below sanderslop, was this the latest Stormlight book...
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>>24087481
But how many mcdonalds coupons does he have?
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>>24087987
I haven't read it and even I know this meme.
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Daniel Abraham > Bakker
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>I've read tons of fantasy!
>lists off most popular fantasy/sf works off amazon and goodreads
lolz
dis fukken thread

>literal who > bakker
it doesn't take much to write something better than babbys first gnosticism + gay rape tip
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>>24088007
rattled
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>>24088004
>>24088007
it's hilarious that nobody knows who abraham is because he didn't use his real name for the expanse books (the other guy he wrote it with sucks)
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>>24088017
People will know who he is in a few years because he's gonna be the guy chosen to complete ASOIAF
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>>24088017
Why did he use a pen name? I've already read The Expanse, are any of his other books good?
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>>24088032
>Why did he use a pen name?
He co-authored The Expanse with Ty Franck (GRRM's former assistant)

>I've already read The Expanse, are any of his other books good?
Yes, The Long Price Quartet & The Dagger and the Coin are two of the best fantasy series of recent years. I've also heard his new Kithamar series is good but I haven't read it yet.
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>>24085323
thank you, looks like i just found my next book to read
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>>24088021
>People will know who he is in a few years because he's gonna be the guy chosen to complete ASOIAF
I doubt that will ever happen.
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>>24087774
what are their children like in the epilogue timeskip?
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>>24087018
already had the Azish chick who filled out her papers to live as a man in WaT. Doubt we'll get a POV character for a while. I say book 8.
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>>24087200
Frustration that his editors are dick sucking yes men. Storylines dragged on. Insufficient payoff for two of the biggest characters. Fun "universe wide" implications which overshadow the "Stormlight" perspective - a frequent criticism as his things become more interconnected. "Too Marvel Avengers".
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>>24087652
I liked it more than RoW. It was still frustrating. It kept me guessing for the most part, which was nice, but then some of the payoff fell flat since I liked my ideas/expectations better lol.
It's a large book. A lot happened. Some good, most fine, plently frustratingly cringy
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Is wheel of time actually worth reading?
I don't like reading digital so I'd have to spend over a hundred on paperbacks, not to mention the new ugly covers because of that amazon series.
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>>24087851
Did you ever read these as a youth? The first is fun little kids story, the second (and onward) get pretty weird. Big fan during middle school. Pretty sure I never finished the series off. Same with Pendragon desu
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>>24088318
There isn't a single good fantasy series with more than 3 books
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>>24088247
GRRM is VINDICATED
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>>24088327
discworld is perfect
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>>24088318
I read them as they came out and enjoyed them. Sando Branderson did an alright job capping them off - he was younger and more concerned about doing well then.

The gender dynamics are fun. All of the women in my life are hardass stubborn haughty dorks so I liked that Jordan captured that side of things.
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>>24088336
I mean serialised story, not reusing the same setting.
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>>24088320
forgot my image because I am a homosexual
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>>24088343
alright that I can believe
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>>24088327
I'm not sure if you'd call it "good", but I enjoyed the Age of Fire series when I read it way back when.
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dubs and I reactivate my old account and respond to this dude with some added 'ions
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>>24088247
what the fuck is this
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>>24088413
wind and truth by top fantasy author brandon sanderson, who has hit the nyt bestseller list with every book he published since mistborn
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>>24088423
god I wish that was me
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>>24088423
I am quite new here, but holy that just reads bad. Even some disney movies have better dialogue.
I guess this is written for teenagers?
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>>24088440
it's written for 29 year old redditors actually
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>>24088454
oh god
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>>24088457
just wait til you find the romantasy section aimed at 29 year old tiktok ladies
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>>24088327
holy based
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>>24088440
Oh no my friend, Brando Sando has eniterly different books for his Young Adult audience, I shudder to think how those read.
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What fantasy/sci-fi novels are the most like anime?
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>>24088488
Ready Player One is basically Daicon IV
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>"None of my desires surprise you, do they? It is no exaggeration that you know my mind better than I. Would that you were a woman."
>"Were I a woman, Icarium, I would have serious concerns about your taste in women."
>"Granted," the Jhag replied, "you are somewhat hairy. Bristly, in fact."
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>>24088538
You cannot convince me that anyone in this world or any other made up world will talk like that.
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>>24087200
I knew WaT response would be glorious when I checked out his discord with regular fanboy autists just couple days after release and they were giving it 6 or 7 out of 10 with every third post being critique.
Couple weeks later reddit went unexpectedly brave with quite a monolithic critique of the book with various sentences such ass
>It was ass
>prose at its worst, reminding of MCU
>overall a disappointment
Book hating hivemind has reached critical mass to the point the fanboy hivemind couldn't silence it. It got bad enough for BS to show up and try to deflect criticism by acting humble.
Oviously BS brand is too big to fail but the sentiment
>SA last two books just aren't good and it's sad, probably won't read next book
widespreads among nomies. It would be harder to sell people on the next books without serious and aggressive ad campaign within the
>BS got better at writing/he got better editor
canvas.
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>>24088540
What if they were hundreds of years old?
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>>24088541
You can all but guarantee the strapline for the next slopfest will be "A return to form" -Some Guy
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WHAT TO READ AFTER KJ Parker, Glen Cook, Adrian Tchaikovsky, Steven Erikson, Daniel Abraham, Django Wrexler, Bernard Cornwell, and James Clavell?
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>>24088561
it's time for Abercrombie...
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>>24088564
I cant do it boss. I tried. Same with Mark Lawrence too
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>>24088561
Try Stephen Donaldson why doncha
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>>24088164
>Is GRRM's friend and confidant
>Has been told certain details about the ending of the series
>Has already helped GRRM with certain projects like Hunter's Run and the ASOIAF graphic novel
>Is a successful and experienced author in his own right
>Actually has a somewhat similar writing style to GRRM
I'm about 90% sure it will be Abarahm who finishes it
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>>24088561
try Richard Cornwell and George Macdonald Fraser
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>>24088561
The first two books of The Witcher
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>Szeth remained silent, worried that if he responded, he would invite more lecturing. Unfortunately, Kaladin kept going.
based autism ninja
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This is a real, unabridged section of text from Wind and Truth by accredited Mormon author, Brandon Sanderson
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>>24088876
there should be a mormon commandment against trying to be funny imo
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>>24088685
I'm no fan of the fatman, but the idea of a hack like Abraham trying to fill those shoes disgusts me.
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>>24086635
Cradle is a western ya drama disguised as xanxia.
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>>24087969
>was this the latest Stormlight book...
yes
>this is a tier even below sanderslop
as you can see, he keeps surpassing himself
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>>24088876
>awfulness
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the faithful & the fallen kinda sucks ngl
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Miss me now?
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>>24088944
At this point I'm hoping they bring in Kevin J. Anderson to just take a dump on it.
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>>24089004
No
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>female chinese author goes on a random tangent about how europeans have bigger dicks than chinese men
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>>24089089
I mean, yeah. Male Chinese authors, when they feature European women, also always have the male protagonists comment on how much bigger their tits are than those of Chinese women.
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>>24088561
Accursed Kings
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Has anyone here actually read Maas?
I'm vaguely interested in doing it just to get an idea of what's going on with the genre right now but I have so much actually good stuff to read that it feels like a poor use of time.
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>>24089172
I want someone to post the excerpt where her self-insert main character OC gets mouthfucked.
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>>24089004
I don't know if he got better, but at the time it was blatantly clear Paolini got his foot in with Eragon because his parents were within publishing industry.
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>>24089212
He was self-published before self-publication was accessible to the peasantry.
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>>24089212
Damn, really? I'd never have guessed.
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>>24089212
Isnt that a children's book?
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>>24088459
My mom was telling me about that actually. This book was recommended by tiktok https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/211148021-how-my-neighbor-stole-christmas
The first comment is hilarious. Apparently women only buy this book for the "candy cane scene"
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>>24088370
Do it anyway!
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>>24089265
I've always wondered what these women's sex lives are actually like. How's your mom getting on?
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>>24088320
>Did you ever read these as a youth?
No. Classmates were normies, and any books they recommended were often gay.
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>>24089286
She fell into the feminazi rabbit hole. She can't understand why men say horrible things to her when she opens her mouth. She hates men unless they're buying her things. So, not well.
She's reading Quicksilver by Callie Hart.
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>>24084299
Reading Of Blood and Fire now and it's just terrible. It might be the worst book I've ever read based off of a recommendation. Full of bizarre anachronisms, very embarrasing dialogue (picrel), even more embarrasing cliches, and something like 20 similes per page, most connected via "as if" which gets really aggravating once you notice it
And yet I'm still reading it. There's something here that's compelling, hard to put a finger on what exactly.
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>>24089556
> There's something here that's compelling, hard to put a finger on what exactly.
You should stop , youre turning into a redditor.
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>>24088876
He is just trying to cater to YA and diverse audience
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>>24089613
???
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It's really important that the elves leave Middle-Earth to go to Valinor to Tolkien because he really thought of his books as a mythological history of the real world. I'd say that's easily their worst feature and excuses some really cheap and stupid dialogue and poorly written scenes across the entire trilogy. In the movies they're obsessed with Gollum and want to make another Gollum movie because I think their super model chattel relate to the gollum character especially, otherwise they obviously don't give a shit. I had an idea for LOTR continuing into the Fifth Age when I was younger but I have a better idea now.
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>>24089636
you alright, anon?
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>>24083940
Blindsight.

Unrelated,
Holy fucking SHIT Sanderson is a hack. What the fuck happened, Way of Kings might not've been Gene Wolfe but it was orders of magnitude better than this shit, every other line is about fucking mental health, I thought that shit was a joke that I was only noticing because retarded Booktubers keep bringing it up but Kaladin is doing shit like announcing that he's not a Radiant, he's a Therapist in the middle of his Super Saiyan powerup scenes.

What the fuck happened, did Sanderson get proofreaders consisting entirely, 100% of fucking Redditors or something? I'll bet that actually is what happened.
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>>24089650
Like people have said already probably no real editor which lead to Sanderson only reinforcing his own worst traits as a writer.
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>>24087893
>10 books you've ever read
>>24087944
>7 of the most popular series of the genre
kek
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>>24088876
Jesus Christ even Michael Kramer's voice can't fix this shit.
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>>24089650
People still want to believe that Sanderson is just this radiant light of fiction, this nerdy dude who writes piles and piles of books out of love, that just last year he was working late hours at a hotel clerk job figuring out the Cosmere.

Sanderson is a tenured professor at Mormon University, he's a veteran of the fantasy circuit, he's been on a podcast giving bad writing advice for 10 years, and he also was obviously famous enough to be given the helm to finish Wheel of Time. He has an entire factory worth of employees working for him including full time living arrangements for them - he doesn't write books anymore, he has created a Cosmere factory that prints out Cosmere-scented shit.
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>>24088876
Is Mistborn good or is it like this screenshot? Because if it's anything like that, I'm taking it off my wish list. I've never read Sanderson.
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>>24088488
japanese light novels
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>>24089172
I haven't touched Maas but I've been pleasantly surprised by T.Kingfisher so far
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>>24089683
It's better, he has genuinely taken a downwards turn in quality, I have no idea how he manages it.

Understanding Sanderson's works is actually very simple though, because what Sanderson does is write movies. Mistborne is Mission Impossible but medieval with magic. Way of Kings is an inspirational sports movie on an alien crab planet, but medieval, with magic. Warbreaker is Beauty and the Beast, but medieval, with magic.

They're so formulaic that if you gave Sanderson a budget to make a movie, he would be able to write the screenplay unaided with no need for adaptation because he basically already does that. If you look at his work in this way his awful prose actually makes sense, you're not supposed to read it, you're supposed to see it because Hollywood is supposed to be making these into ten digit budget movies--which they probably will eventually.
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>>24089676
>tenured professor at Mormon University
he teaches part time, one creative writing class per year. that's it. and they probably only gave him that job after he become The Famoius Mormon Writier. he's not fucking tenured.
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>>24089676
He wants the cosmere to become a 'brand'. Sad.
>>24089702
He writes screenplays. Or wants to.
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>>24089706
>can't become tenured unless you're a full time super serious professor
lol
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>>24089712
You can go on BYU's website and see he's part time/adjunct.
Every creative writing course does this with novelists who guest lecture because they don't want to be full time staff with research obligations. He has no reason to want tenure.
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>>24089676
I actually think it's the opposite problem
He's creating nothing but McDonalds meals not because he wanted an easy assembly line but because that's all he knows how to do.
Sanderson is one of those nerds who lack talent or skill but also doesn't care, because that's only secondary to scratching his brain itch
the problem is that unlike those other nerds he's found massive success, so there's nobody to tell him off or encourage him to improve.

>>24089712
I think you used the word "tenured" because it's a frequently used adjective when describing professors, but tenure has a very specific meaning that does not at all apply to Sanderson
in fact the primary differentiating factor between full-time faculty and an adjunct professor is that the latter is explicitly non-tenure-track. it's like saying a part time worker government worker gets a pension.
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So you're saying becoming a Mormon would help my chances of getting published?
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>>24089702
>because what Sanderson does is write movies. Mistborne is Mission Impossible but medieval with magic.
I don't really enjoy movies.
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>>24089739
>>24089739
Yes. Unironically Mormons are the most shamelessly nepotistic Christian sect outside of Coptics, they're a bit like Jews except they're stupid instead of evil.
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Why hasn't any Sanderslop been made into movies yet? I don't think I can bear to read him any further, but I would pay to watch his works.
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>>24089766
I guess the only downside would be the arranged marriage... Wait a second
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>>24089805
fantasy does poorly in general and his non-fantasy writing sucks
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Why didn't you mulignans tell me there was a new Black Company book coming out?

>In their adopted father’s stead, Arkana and Shukrat have taken up the role of annalist for the Black Company. At first, life in Hsien appears quiet, even boring, but it is quickly apparent that strange goings on are more than what they seem, and it's up to them to discover the truth hidden in the shadows of this strange land.
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>>24089805
>but I would pay to watch his works
the terrifying thing is this will probably happen one day sooner than we think. God help us
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>>24089832
Big name fantasy stacks paper to the ceiling what on Earth are you talking about? As much as I despise Sanderson's awful Cosmere stuff it's exactly the sort of thing that would sell, I can only assume that the reason it hasn't been made yet is that anyone who would make it would fuck it up. Sanderson is the sort of nerd who actaully watches TV so he'd have to know that Amazon will fuck it up--he wouldn't care about the poz shit but he would care that it would suck and make him look bad.

He's already richer than God so it's not like he needs the money, he'll hold out for someone big who will let him retain creative control.
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>>24089906
Warcraft and D&D are both bigger names than Sanderson and flopped at the box office. That's what I'm talking about.
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>>24089837
My boomer lit friend says Glen Cook lost it
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Newfag here, two questions. Appreciate any answers, thanks..

1) How do I pick between Children of Time and Cage of Souls for my first Tchaikovsky?
2) I heard Hyperion has an episodic structure. Not a big fan of that. Do the stories come together?
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>>24090024
2) Hyperion is about a group of people travelling together to the same destination telling each other how and why they decided to do what they're doing, it's a single narrative.
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>>24089971
port of shadows was alright just pointless by nature
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>>24089733
>You can go on BYU's website and see he's part time/adjunct
Yes?
>>24089734
Yes? Why are you two responding to me like I'm the one arguing against Sanderson being a tenured professor? All tenure means is that you cannot be fired, outside of extraneous circumstance. Maybe there are differing requirements /per university/ but in general, a tenured professor does not have to teach a certain minimum of classes per semester. Sanderson isn't even the first nepotism case and hoo boy you're going to be real flabbergasted when you learn what an "emeritus" professor is.
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I feel people are missing out big time the truth about sanderson, he is not writting anymore for the love of the game, he is writting because it sells, that's why he includes things that are popular nowdays like therapy, non-binary, lgbt, trans allegories
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>>24090089
He wants to be a household name, yeah.
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>>24083241
Please read a Wolfe book besides BOTNS. I beg all of you...
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>>24090125
which one
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>>24090125
wish granted
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>>24090136
The devil in a forest
Peace
There are doors
Wizard Knight
Latro trilogy
The Fifth Head of Cerberus
The Sorcerers house
Wolfe Archipelago

then everything else he's ever done
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>>24090157
>Wizard Knight
>Latro trilogy
>The Fifth Head of Cerberus
lurk moar. these are all talked about regularly. go join a Wolfe forum.
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>>24089805
The entire reason he stood by and allowed Wheel of Time to be raped by Amazon was because he wanted to avoid torpedoing himself out of getting his own movie/tv show deal for adaptations of the Cosmere by showing he can play ball and won't bitch and moan like many other fantasy writers getting their shit adapted.
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>>24090181
>stood by and allowed
He doesn't control the WOT rights. He served as a consultant on the show but was actually fairly outspokenly critical about changes the adaptation made.
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Cosmere wouldn't do shit at the box office
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>>24090154
The shambles is hilarious these days because they pretend it's the shopping alley from harry potter even though it wasn't actually based on it
Loads of HP themed shops
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>>24090250
I think we will get an animated series arcane style. A live action adaptation of stormlight would be very expensive
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Can you read the first volume of ASOIAF as a standalone novel with a decently satisfying ending? I don't read series but I want to know what the fuzz was about.
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Just finished portal wars, has Wisher made anything else worth reading?
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>>24090125
Finished Short Sun last week. Pretty good
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>>24090307
All of the characters have completed story arcs within the book, but there's a clear setup for what will be happening in the future books in the sense that 'history never ends' and everyone's about to go to war due to the consequences of the end of the major story arcs. I'd say A Storm of Swords is technically a better ending point as it was originally designed to be the ending point for most story arcs and then followed with a 5-year time skip. You can definitely get a feel for it though by just reading AGoT.
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>>24090309
Why's he have one of those traffic guard batons in his hand?
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>>24090369
That’s supposed to be a knife
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>>24090279
Cheap CGI, maybe. Actual animation feels like it'd be more expensive than live action. Plus normies prefer live action.
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>>24090309
A new book in the series was released the other day after years of nothing, did you read that one?
Also you can try Aegis of Merlin. It's kinoslop that's really fun to read.
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>>24090452
Yeah trying they one but I fucking hate the MC after 2 books
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>>24088974
>western ya drama
must be a thing from the later books, because i'm halfway through the second and it was nothing but action.

>>24086638
>>24086645
can confirm, i'm having fun.
maybe not 12 books worth of fun, but it's kinda amusing seeing these bunch of easily offended bozos go at it at the slightest provocation.

i'm liking the main characters quite a bit.
>Lindon would be a much more tolerable character if he had a shred of Meng Hao's confidence and backbone.
if anything i think he sometimes dares a bit much.
he's reining it in, but being resurrected and all that gave him a confidence boost
still, he's outsmarting his opponents so far and i don't feel like he didn't earn his victories.
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>>24090309
Sling since I heard all of his works are in a loose multiverse so I’m asking if it’s as stupid as it sounds
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>>24090539
*asking
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>>24090490
>maybe not 12 books worth of fun
Cradle at no point eases off the brakes, from my experience if someone likes book 1 they're going to finish the series. It doesn't hurt that all 12 Cradle books combined are probably only slightly longer than the most recent Stormlight entry, the series isn't actually very long.
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>>24090162
great, anon asked to read something other than botn. I gave that. Dont understand your complaint
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>>24090579
glad to hear it, i'll keep at it
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>>24086033
Just bought this edition of this book having no idea what it's about just because that cover is good. Modern book covers almost never are. I hope the book is as good as the cover
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>>24090597
>having no idea what it's about
It's extremely slow, extremely dull generic fantasy, with an annoyingly passive generic chosen one protagonist, which drags everything out to an absurd degree and ends with the protagonist getting cucked.
Don't buy shit just because you liked the cover.
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>>24090587
>pretending you didn't start the conversation string
uh okay champ
lurk moar and stop posting
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>>24090605
not one word of this is true
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>>24090579
are there any omnibuses for it or am I looking at 12 paperbacks
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>>24090665
Cradle: Foundation, Path of Gold, Rise of Lords, and Ascension are the omnibuses iirc.
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>>24089650
Its the few things combined
>Loss of passion with the passage of time; his consistency of churning out the book lead to it
>Same with the quality - with such a tempo its natural to lose the edge
>Sanderson is hardcore architector, he wants to plan everything, but he just bite the cake he cant chew on - 5 (10) books 1000-1400 pages each of all charcters plot points, event points etc etc are just way too much
>Succes got into his head; he got too big for any editor to stand up and say 'BS, cut on this shit and this and this'
this is it
His WaT deserves more hate thant it has now. Its mediocre book with almost no redeeming qualities. Even his famous Sanderlaunch was not good.
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>>24090605
every word of this is true
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>>24090605
>Don't buy shit just because you liked the cover
You can't stop me. Bought this because of the cover and it might be my favorite book of all time.
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>>24090597
Its one of the classics from the talented author who knew what he was doing and good prose, so have fun
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>>24090694
>BS
heh
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>>24090309
No. His other books terrible.
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I just read Will of the Many. Surprisingly good. The world, at least the superficial aspect, is a straight up copy of late Roman republic. The plot is good, new questions pop up as soons as old ones are answered. The books ends with a big bang, which is nice. Leaves a lot of questions for the sequel. In general, I liked how, most of the time, the book didn't tell, it showed.
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>>24084358
the absolute gigachad, my balding hero
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>>24084358
This guy looks like he should be selling surface cleaner on daytime television
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>>24090024
>1) How do I pick between Children of Time and Cage of Souls for my first Tchaikovsky?
judge them by their covers and pick whichever looks cooler
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>>24090125
i read the island of dr death and other stories but didn't really understand the ending
still haven't yet read the reast of the island of dr death and other stories and other stories
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Is it normal to want to gouge out your eyes reading Shallan's first chapter in tWoK?
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My dad used to be an angry drunk asshole when I was a kid, he’s been sober for 15 years now and has mellowed out and apologizes all the time for how he used to be.
Admittedly the Adolin/Dalinar stuff in Wind and Truth really struck a cord with me
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>>24085323
What are you reading next?
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>>24090597
where'd you buy it?
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>>24091152
>>24091152
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>>24090909
>Is it normal to want to gouge out your eyes reading [Sanderson]
yes



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