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/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQ
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Please limit excerpts to one post.
Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.
Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.
If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.
Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.
(And maybe double-space your WIPs to allow edits if you want 'em.)

Simple guides on writing:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHdzv1NfZRM [Open]
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whPnobbck9s [Open]
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAKcbvioxFk [Open]

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Question for the thread: what is one thing you think your writing lacks?

Personally I cannot describe architecture without it sounding like I've searched up a bunch of terms on google.
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I've been trying to write all day long, but last night I had that dream where I was pissing a very concerning amount of blood in front of my entire school. Woke up upset and afraid to pee, and all day long I've felt like my bladder feels weird. Like I'm on the verge of a UTI
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I wrote the first three chapters of my book! I just need to maintain momentum. Here's my first page!
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>>24096677
An audience
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>>24096777
lamooooooo more fucking dragons and wizards. I hahahah i wanted to give it a real chance, i really did, but after i read 'Grand Patriarch' I knew it would be the expected sffg faggot slop.
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>>24096688
You should probably go to the bathroom unless you want to turn a nightmare into a prophecy
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>>24096777
Said this in the other thread but your dialogue sounds very natural. Keep up the good work
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>>24096799
of course! but there's no dragons or wizards! Just backstabbing whores upon backstabbing whores a love triangle and ugly fat bastards!

I could easily shift this to historical fiction since it's based on German unification before the Holy Roman Empire.
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>>24096819
oooooo im worldbuillldinigggg oooooo gooodddd
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>>24096819
but i didn't want to offend anyone and its far easier to write fantasy than historical fiction. Too many names, places, and dates for the reader to keep up
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>>24096823
do you want wizards and dragons?
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>>24096825
Don't listen to the schizo, write what you want.

I would be happy if the only person to ever enjoy my fantasy slop was born decades after I kill myself
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The Winglewangle phlutters
through widowadowood,
the crimson Fingoor splutters
and scary screaks the Scrood.
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Where did you stop reading?
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>>24096799
>>24096823
As if litfic is any better.

Lord Giovanni Ivenobrain, resplendent in the finest silks from the Orient, flopped haughtily into a large, cushioned, award-winning chair in the stately parlor. "Oh, woe is me!" he gasped. "It's so difficult being a rich, lazy layabout! Why, I don't know whether to play croquet or harass the milkmaid."
Lady Silentbottom looked on, her face an inscrutable puzzle of long-forgotten secrets. "I do so concur with your misery, Lord Ivenobrain," she pouted. "Why, I could just kill my handmaidens for being prettier than me. How dare they be ten years younger!" She straightened her blouse and set her face firmly. "I'll just have them apply more makeup to my face for the next hour. And meanwhile," she added, "why doesn't thou spanketh thy monkey in thy study, while perusing any number of ribald portraits by famous Baroque artists?"
Lord Ivenobrain slapped his crotch as he stood up. "By gum, I'll do just that! Until the morrow, Lady Silentbottom!"
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Reminder: people far more autistic than you don't giving up on writing.
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>>24096872
The gay sex scene
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>>24096811
thank you anon!
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>>24096872
It's good but you have to ask if the voice is consistent with that young twink that was on the boat who we imagine to be younger and simpler than this POV voice we're now hearing. This doesn't sound like a cabin boy.
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>>24096872
glamora. I'm gonna go ahead and assume this is fantasy slop
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>>24097076
It's a dystopian. It's about a cabin boy crabber that kills his lover on a ship and enters the church. There he becomes disillusioned about the current state of God (a future where Jesus is changed and made into a transexual goat creature). He goes around and kills people to collect their body parts and recreates "God" after being inspired by the Pieta.

I can't seem to figure out how to make him and Mollie come to odds with one another.


If not that, then I'm going to have to rewrite it as pirate slop. Because the religious story is far too complex.
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>tell friend almost 2 years ago I'm going to write a book
>this whole time give updates and he's supportive
>finally put it up on Amazon this week
>tell him, expecting excitement and a buy
>he says the shipping cost is higher than the book for him so he'll wait
>it's print on demand, and should be printed locally and have normal shipping
>realize he just doesn't want to buy it but won't outright say it
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https://youtu.be/cev6LsbIC3g?t=85
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>>24097115
I accumulate stuff in my Amazon cart until it reaches $35 and I get free shipping. Am I the only one?
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>>24096777
>The music stopped.
KINO
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Last week I popped in and said something like I had 60,000 words of my book done and that I was going to finish it by the end of April. The update I have is that I'm at 64,000 now, which is about 213 pages, but I'm more focused on the fat that I've refined the outline more and have a clearer picture of where I'm going, which should make future writing easier.
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>>24097115
it is shocking how many people will let you down as soon as it requires a tiny amount of effort
last year I made the effort to promptly watch every single movie a close friend recommends me
I won't do it again this year because none of them watched or read a single thing I recommended
it makes me want to go into the woods and write for myself and never let it see the light of day
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>>24097115
Your friends are typically the last ones to buy into your dreams. It's a whole thing across mediums. They need to see other people supporting you before they do it.
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Dear people with real jobs, ie mentally draining jobs, how do you write during the weekdays? Entering into my 30s and getting a lot more responsibility at work. I'm just drained by the time I get home.
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>>24097115
if he's poor, then be sympathetic. if he's not poor, then he's not a real friend.
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>>24097188
become a teacher so you get winter break, spring break and summer to write your slop. You earn 60k working less than part time.
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>>24096872
You kind of had me with the guy being falsely accused of murder and running away but the sex/murder came way too quick and kind of lost me.
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Would it make sense for a father to be happy his son is alive what reason would there be for that
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>>24097188
I don't. I just started a new job three weeks ago, 10 - 7. By the time I get home, shower, and eat, I can't focus on anything, not even a mindless TV show. I just listen to music for a couple hours in the dark then go to bed.
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>>24097219
his son is alive.
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>>24097229
So? Just some guy, right?
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>>24097076
>concrete
>neon lights
>fantasy
wut?
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How the fuck do you shitheels write so condensed? People here have multiple scenes on one page and yet writing a dinner scene takes me 2.5k words minimum.
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>>24097219
The son is involved in a near death experience like a car accident or something and so the father is extra grateful his son is alive.
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>>24097254
post sample of your dinner scene
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>>24097272
OK, here's a sample of that scene, am I cooking with this? Should I cut it down? Give it to me real.
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>>24097272
I am not >>24097293 and no I won't post it here because it’s full of fantasy names
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>>24096918
kino IFOC
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>>24097254
How the fuck do you write so elaborately? 2.5k words is the beginning, middle, and end of a story for me. The trick is to not have patience.
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>>24097337
>this dish here is the kurm alibia, a traditional dish served here in Khal Padut. It’s made by cooking rice inside this banana leaf, and then served with this soup made with lentils and pork, along with a side of pickled cabbage.
>McEuropean chewed thoughtfully. This was not unlike the cabbage back home, but it had been fermented in a spicier concoction and had a nice crunch to it.
And then I rinse and repeat for every food on table. Including how it’s prepared (including the preparation of the alcohol)
Yeah I know nobody gives a fuck but I enjoy it when I can take a real world fish with hallucinogenic properties and then make a gag scene where the deuterantagonist’s face pales when he realize what the fuck he’s just eaten. And then the next two days he sees visions of giant arthropods.
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anyone poetry fans here? I've been having a lot of fun writing them when the inspiration takes me. I have no idea what constitutes 'good' poetry though cause I've only ever read Greek epic poetry or Spanish writers like Neruda, never anything in English.

check it out ~
https://egregoreandi.substack.com/p/black-coffee-friend-of-mine

>>24097188
I write because if I don't I'm actually gonna have to keep working that dead end job and the thought of that is more draining than anything.

>>24096918
autism could be a useful trait for a lot of creative expression, I think the lack of filter / self-conscious awareness of your faults leads to some good art. (or not.) lots of famous sperg musicians, David Byrne of Talking Heads definitely comes to mind. what writers were / are on the spectrum? Tolkien? DFW? Pynchon?
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>>24097254
I trust my nonexistent readers to use their imagination
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>>24097402
After some shitty progress days around the holidays, I've managed to get some more words down.
65k down, half-way finished, managed to avoid sharing it except with successful author friend of mine to avoid the "omg you're writing is so nice :D" dopamine.

Any advice on demotivational mantras or asmr I can listen to as I write? I'm more of a "fuck you, I can do it" kind of person and all I hear is my editor giving me compliments, which just builds my complacency.
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>>24096672
Don't want anybody to actually read the document, just look over the formatting on this and tell me which one you prefer. Guy in the last thread said my writing was illegible because it wasn't justified and indented, which not only fucked up the formatting on my original document in a way I can't fix, but made the revised text have more holes for spaces between words as if I were staring at a picture of SpongeBob square pants.
I would like somebody to, if they prefer the standardized box text, explain how in the hell that style of formatting is suppose to increase legibility. Or was he just an neurotic retard that likes squares?
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>>24097447
Fuck my life I'm doing to much at once, I'm on the verge of blowing my fucking brains out. Heres the document with both versions to compare.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/13ecP0y3egjDUNS4k3IBfea-USdPpAYppQaXliBbOhL0/edit?usp=sharing
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>>24096923
That's the best part
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>>24096672
I've got a story but I'm not sure how to take it. I want to introduce a human character and make it from his POV, but I think doing so could ruin the mystery, and that leaving it to the non humans to wander about the bones of human society would be better. Suggestions?
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>>24096672
I like how people in these writing communities are always exceptionally harsh on dialogue.

And then you watch 50 million dollar movies, written by literal nepo babies, where the dialogue is god-awful (as you know, no subtlety, no layer, no wit). And.... Normies still praise the dialogue.

Why bother mastering entertaining dialogue when the majority of people can't tell the difference between amateur dialogue and excellent dialogue?
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>>24097517
Because we're not doing it for them, we're doing it for us. The normies are a lost cause.
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I'm working on a compendium of monstergirl short stories I wrote, mostly reformated for general consumption from greentexts. I don't want to sound like I'm high on the smell of my own farts, but I really like the way I wrote some of these.
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>>24097577
Are these actual monster girls or are they the kind like your pic?
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>>24097591
Funnily enough, I don't think I have any catgirl ones in my collection. Nothing wrong with them mind you, I just see them as the "vanilla" of Monstergirl flavors and don't tend to focus on them in my writings. The first short story is the meatiest of the bunch and it features a bookworm centaur, a punk lizard girl, and a snake lady as well. A good mix given the work's relative brevity.

I have a long-form story to finish but it's an earlier work (and it shows) written in first person and I don't know if I can salvage it. Other than ripping everything down and starting over which I don't want to do for that particular story. I don't know if I can salvage it. I may toss its current iteration into the compendium as a "long short story" with the caveat
>"This is unfinished but I don't want it lost forever so enjoy".
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>>24096872
Well, it had personality, at least. Competent enough that I could read to the end. The murderous homolust was genuinely unsettling, props for that. You're the first /wg/ anon, whose writing has made me feel anything.
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>>24097115
If he's been supportive, you could at least gift him a copy, not beg for money.
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>>24097293
the content, the deliberate art references are too on the nose for me, though the narrative flows quite well
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Need help I'm stuck.
Party of 4 adventurers is heading east. I ran out of topics they could discuss along the way or things they could do. Anyone got any ideas?
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>>24097702
Someone farted. Blame it on the elf even though you know you did it. The elf gets very offended. The Dwarf chimes in that they've been gassing the crew with SBD's the the whole way and laughs at the lot of you. The straight man of the crew sighs, coming to terms with the fact they're all supposed to be professionals.
>"Can we save the poison gas for the enemies, please?"
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>>24097707
have you been on the writing table for every blockbuster film of the last decade?
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>>24097707
And the straight man can tell by the sound of the farts who's been cornholing who among those elves and dwarves.
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>>24097711
Brutal. That was more of a shitpost. In my defense, anon did ask for ANY ideas.
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>using AI to remove meme arrows and reformat greentexts stories into digestible chunks.
>Cuts my workload significantly
>still need to do proofreading and general editing.
I forgot how big of a part of the writing process this is. AI can help a little bit with the editing process but ultimately I have to choose what changes to make along the way.
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What does /wg/ think of my writing style?
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>>24097778
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>>24097780
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>>24097778
Personally, if you're going to add a flavor to a quote
>"they hissed, their words dripping with venom"
>"her words seeped from her lips with menace"
>"the contempt in his voice cut deep into her heart"
I would cut off "he said" or "she said" unless you need to use it. I feel like that elongates sentences needlessly.
I'd write the first part like
>"he subtracted," his voice thick with emotion. Like broth reduced too thinly, "My son...subtracted"

As long as the reader can tell what's going on, I try to use as few words as possible for dialogue exchanges so I don't waste their time with "he said she said" dances. I read in some style book that that's wrong but I know what I like so fuck that book.
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>>24097115
I don't know, how to say this... I feel like amateur asking money for their book is unwise and arrogant.
Amazon has a graveyard of self-published books that nobody buys, most of them are bad and any good books are lost in the mud.
So, I feel like the threshold of spending money on something that might be trash is too high.
Even big YouTubers (like Austin McConnell) that shill their books, admit nobody buys their books

I feel like you should release your book for free somewhere where people can discuss it, because the threshold for giving it a try is much lower.
And if it garners some traction there, you can consider selling it elsewhere, maybe an expanded version.

The Martian, 50 Shades of Grey, Wool (Silo's source material), and The Apothecary Diaries started off as free web novels until they got attention and were published traditionally.
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>>24097789
He's baiting, it's the latest batch of Sanderslop
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>>24097783
This man teaches writing at university level
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What is the best way to establish your character’s gender identity? I tried having them say their pronouns. But that always seemed awkward and it’s not like people can just know them so what do I do?
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>>24097876
have a lore glossary preface your book which explains the entirety of the LBGTQIA++ community
whenever the character is on page, include an annotation next to their name and a footnote asking the reader to refer to the corresponding section in your glossary
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>>24097876
You can check the adams apple, sturdiness of the jaw, hand size, roughness of the skin, hair coverage, bass in the voice. Don't you people wear badges or some shit?
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>>24097188
I just try to fit in a little bit of work a day. Doesn't matter if it isn't a lot, but the word count keeps crawling upward between major sessions when I have more time. There are days when it's only a few sentences, but it's always something. I find it helps me to work out difficult plot points and avoid writer's block if I'm habitually thinking about it every day, and it sometimes leads to genuine inspiration.
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>>24097876
just have the opening scene be him trying to talk a kindergartener into self-castration, the readers will pick up on this subtle hint
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>>24097598
While I do wish you would drop the cuteness factor from your story, I still admire the idea of a compendium of Monster Girl Stories at all. Good luck mate. Finish it.
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>>24097986
>cuteness factor
In the current story I'm working on, there are two big lewd interludes between the main narrative. The place I was writing for often enjoyed smut and up until that point I hadn't had any for the story. I was too interested in telling the rest of the story to get to it, so I went back and added snippets of lewd content. Now that I'm recompiling all the posts together I'm weaving the lewd bits back into the story whereas before they were told out of order after the fact. Pic related.

Bear in mind, whenever I wrote the lewd lizard bits, I'd slide into the accent harder than I would for the normal bits (I was telling a story in the UK and trying to challenge myself by showcasing different ways of talking). I'm reeling that back in and touching up some errors here and there for the compendium but I'm striving to maintain the same flavor the original work had without compromising the lewdness.
>This is just smut!
The main story doesn't really have smut in it, it's more of a comedy/drama piece with splashes of romance dribbled in here and there. If you want to read everything in its entirety you can pass on this old greentext since I'll be sticking everything together into one pdf or whatever. I'll see if I can post it here to get properly roasted.
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>>24096672
Rate my fanfiction
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I started writing for the first time. Why is
>"..." He said, ...
So common?
I found it that removing the "he verbed" didn't make it hard to read, and it made the writing more compact and flow better.
I mean what else could he have done, farted the words out of his ass?
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>>24098029
At least you wrote something, smut or not. All I seem to do is that, and highly suspect smut at that. Even so.
Work on it. Touch it up, and keep stapling them together. In time, it shall be seen to the world
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How long should I wait between finishing a project and going back over it to edit it?
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>>24097254
Are you the guy whose novel is entirely dinners and restaurant scenes?
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>>24098068
I would say that it depends on your goals.
If you're writing for yourself then whenever you want.
If you're writing for publishing and you have some contact who already trusts you, then send them the draft because they'll look over the faults. Then edit when you get your feedback.
If you're writing for self-publishing and you don't have an audience, ASAP (and try to find some test readers)
If you're writing for self-publishing but you have test readers that you trust, only after you get their feedback
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>>24098050
I don't have the style book in front of me, but I read that using things like "she sighed" or "pounding his hands against the table, he shouted" instead of "he said, she said, he said" was wrong and that effectively every dialogue should be curt he said she said exchanges.

One thing I've learned from writing is you should write what you want to read. I can reference professional style guides and grammar books all day but if you go back and read something and you find it stiff or hard to read, you should write it how you'd prefer it read. I wasn't a big fan of "The Road" but the author had a specific flavor for dialogue and they used that flavor throughout the book. You can cite style guides and say they made it a mess to read but a lot of people enjoyed that book. Hell, they made a fucking movie out of it.

Language and by extension writing evolves. If you think contemporary grammar is scary now, wait until we have zoomer fiction emerge with their new takes on explaining scenes and dialogue. We might get emojis and colored text.
>>24097254
I don't need to know how every morsel of food tastes. You're constructing a narrative, not composing a food review. What's clogging up your page; dialogue, food descriptions, how people are eating?
>>24098067
We'll see. Both of the characters in the lewd exchange are underage so if I ever publish it professionally, that snippet might need to be removed, lest I invoke the wrath of those who shan't be named. They're not ancillary to the story so luckily I can remove them without any disruption to my narrative.
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>>24098085
>I read that using things like "she sighed" or "pounding his hands against the table, he shouted" instead of "he said, she said, he said" was wrong
Suppose that's wrong, I don't think it is, but suppose that's wrong.
What's the point of he said when it's beyond obvious that that's what's going on?
I could understand some tags when it's a complicated conversation and the speaker isn't clear. I even did that myself a few times in my novella. But most of the time just suppose there's a man and a girl who have to leave for some place it starts raining really bad and they're afraid they won't find an uber
>"We should leave early." His voice sounded worried.
>"Yes, I agree."
>"You think everyone will be there?"
>"I hope not. I can't stand most of them."
Just establish who speaks first, and from then on just cut from each speaker to each speaker.
Maybe it's because I'm a beginner but I really can't bring myself to write he said she said he said she said like what the fuck come the fuck on.
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>>24097792
I put my novels and short stories online for free, too. I get some reads, and some pleasant comments, but nothing else. I guess I won't quit my day job.
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>>24097360
Then it's no mystery is it? Everyone else's writing is more concise because we aren't burying our narrative in pages and pages of My Immortal outfit description.
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>>24097702
>things they could do
Arrive?
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>>24097778
The voice metaphors become tiresome very quickly
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>>24098107
I think Yatzhee gave good advice on the matter, essentially saying "Don't write the boring parts, write the interesting parts." Certain expositional details may be needed for the narrative but unless something really important is happening in the bathroom, the camera doesn't need to follow the character in there and listen to their internal toilet monologue.
>>24098097
I thought I'd read about it in "The Elements of Style by Strunk, W., Jr. and White, E.B.".
I'm afraid I can't locate where they talk about that specifically. I'll double-check it later.
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Kaladin in WaT be like:
>I heard reddit loved my line in WoR so ill just say it again even though the only person who will get this line is Dalinar and redditors.
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>>24098141
I'm not saying that you're wrong, and I'm absolutely not saying it's not the standard style that is probably taught everywhere.
I'm just saying that I find it unnatural and I don't like it, regardless of conventions.
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>>24098171
I agree with you in regards to having unique dialogue tags. I like more freedom with writing rather than less. My main objective is readability and entertainment when it comes to writing. I can still entertain other thoughts on the subject in either case. Here's the take on "he said/she said" dialogue tag discussion. While I appreciate their take, I disagree.
>https://selfpublishingadvice.org/dialogue-tags-writing-advice/
There's also this as well
>https://nailyournovel.wordpress.com/2024/03/10/everyone-says-why-the-rule-about-dialogue-tags-isnt-cast-iron/
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>>24098141
Isn't that book the one that starts on a wojak tier feminist seething tirade against one of the most memorable quotes of all time (the Star Trek intro) because it broke some of his rules or whatever?
>nooo that quote is using english wrong, you can't enjoy it
lol, lmao

(maybe I'm completely wrong, feel free to ignore this post if that's not the book)
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>>24098190
I don't think so?
Here's the alleged work. Supposedly it's used in a lot of colleges because of its short and to-the-point examples.
>https://files.catbox.moe/yzxpmm.pdf
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>>24098150
Now that you've outed yourself as a redditor, you can go back there.
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>>24098193
my bad, it was dreyer's english I was thinking about
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>>24098085
>subjective prosaic styling is wrong
you can disregard any such ideas. shit's moronic
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>>24098204
>subjective prosaic styling
I have never heard of that term before. That refers to the nonstandard dialogue tags like whispered, hissed, sighed, and so on?
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>>24098216
pretty much everything to do with style is completely subjective. there is no right or wrong prosaic element, only wrong execution and implementation
dialogue tags, so long as they're formatted properly, are fine. most readers barely even notice them unless they're used poorly
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https://youtu.be/wmDKGq_UV-4?si=hnuSPJzejCpjXbZW&t=148
I've seen this exchange described as childish, like a teacher trying to get kindergartners get along. What would be an adult version of it?
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>>24098301
I flat out refuse to even open that video
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Damn you know what's crazy? I was chilling with your waifu, and she said she's willing to finally start dating you and is ready to give you her number, but only once you've finished your book. That's so wild. She said she's happy to wait, tho, so...
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>>24097778
I would add metaphors sparingly and avoid using adverbs if possible. That's just me, though.
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>>24098366
Pussy.
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>>24098301
it depends on the characters. this is a case of them being written in a very same-y. like everyone is on the wavelength and social conflict is only very surface level

normally, whether theyre being direct or not, there'd probably be more subtext. more hints than condescension
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>>24098381
I don't want to keep her waiting...
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Can I use the word spook to refer to a spy, or will people get angry because it's apparantly also a slur?
I'm not American, so I don't really know if spook (black) is more common than spook (spy). And I'm talking RR people here, not regular people.
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>>24098423
Spook is somewhat dated when referring to spies, a bit like G-man is an earlier version of spook. The racial slur is less well known, ranking before jigaboo and ahead of moon cricket, so as long as there is ample context given I think you would be fine.
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>>24098141
>the camera
ngmi
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test
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>>24098423
Anon
You're statistically speaking not going to be making a lot of money even if you bend over backwards for some mythical modern audience that may not even exist.
just bee u're self
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>>24098451
let him pretend
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Beginning of a story/fairy tale I'm writing inspired by the Arabian Nights and set during the Middle Ages along the Silk Road in the Tarim Basin of what is now Xinjiang.
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>>24098423
Both are quite dated at this point. You could get some comedy out of it if the spy is black
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what is with the influx of /wg/gers writing historical fiction lately
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>>24098106
I think prominent needs some level of visuality.
I was sure the animatic of chapters would bring visiblity to them.
But then I saw Austin making animatic for his Spider Queen book , and it got below an average number of views for his channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJCkHae1dgE&t

So, I guess nothing works.
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>>24098471
They think writing fantasy is beneath them, so they write fantasy without magic and call it historical fiction.
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Think it might be bad form if hallway through the story, it switches perspectives to another character until the last chapter?
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>>24098459
here's a little bit more. I'm about 6k words in and aiming for around 15-20k words.
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>>24098511
Good. Fantasy is beneath literally everybody except the drooling retards like yourself.
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>>24098471
I'd started to write an isekai about a WW2 fighter ace going out in a blaze of glory only to be reborn and start riding wyverns and fighting with them in a fantasy world. He'd be using his past aeronautical expertise to give him an edge in dragon fights. To do that kind of work justice, I'd want to read some Luftwaffe accounts and get a feel for how they recounted their exploits to really capture that autobiographical flavor of a WW2 ace.

That idea needs a lot more time in the oven for sure.
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>>24098511
I write fantasy under the guise of wattpad romances
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Would it be immoral to kill the family of a mass murderer who has stopped killing? Can’t they not truly repent without understanding the pain they put others through?
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>>24098531
Just because you're embarrassingly serious about your slop, that doesn't make it literature.
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>>24098537
>Would it be immoral to kill
Anon, take at least 5 seconds to think about the words you type before posting
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>>24098537
Yes.
Immoral to terrorize them? No. But to kill them, who did nothing wrong? Yes.
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>>24098547
I did. The problem here is that you’re a simplistic person who thinks there’s no way killing can ever be moral. I can appreciate nuance and complexity.
You should try growing up.
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>>24097115
Aren't you gonna give him a free copy?
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>>24098459
>>24098526
I genuinely live for shit like this. Fantasy written like this is what I crave, keep up the solid work anon
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>>24098537
It will be immoral to some it will be moral to others why do you even care
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>>24098559
If you think murder can be moral, then you've already moved into the underdeveloped manchildren's arbitrary world, where anything can be right if you want it that way, and you've answered your own question.
>You should try growing up.
Oh the irony.
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>>24098459
>>24098526
Keep up the good work, fantasy lives in the heart of every writer
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>>24098459
>>24098526
Really lovely to read and has that tale-of-old quality. Keep it up anon!
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Guy with no talent for writing here
Been thinking about just writing drafts with my own skills and then feeding them into AI to improve the writing, vocabulary, tone, etc, anythign that makes it better
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>>24098718
The only excusable use for AI is spelling and grammar checks and creating audiobooks.
Nobody cares about your rough draft if it’s been fed into a machine and spit out as a boring formula
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>>24098733
But this is like using a wheelchair, before it was impossible for me to gain talent to write, youre born with talent.
Now I could tweak it, grab pages and styles and like and do influence me in reality, just a talent and skill gap
and tell it to distill and mix and match
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>>24098718
AI is good for brainstorming ideas and helping you proofread in some cases but when it comes to prose, they can't really compete with humans (at least not yet). They can help you establish a groundwork to build on but if the best you can do is "ideas guy" prompts that you feed to Claude or whatever, I don't think AI will take your work that far.

I can share with you some of my AI-written works using Claude. It kinda understands what needs to be written but it needs more refinement before I would consider it ready or human consumption.
>>24098739
If you're so confident in the AI, let's see this slop of yours.
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>>24098743
No I meant, obviously writing the thing myself first, then give it piece by piecfe until its improved
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>>24098748
Again, it can do brainstorming and help with proofreading but feeding your shit to an AI isn't going to magically make it worth reading. In the end, the prose are in your hands. Trust me, I've tested this myself.
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>>24096672
Is including the title of the story into the actual dialogue of the story too cheesy?
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>>24098845
>what are we, some kinda suicide squad?
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>>24098589
>>24098622
>>24098700
thanks anons, really appreciate your kind words, gives me the motivation to keep going :)
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>>24098471
There is?
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>>24097792
>I feel like you should release your book for free somewhere where people can discuss it
The problem with that is Indians will swoop in, copy it, and publish it on Amazon under their name. This kind of thing happens a lot.
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>>24098845
it is, if it's out of place or if it's a rarely used phrase that was clearly included by the author to reference the title. Breaking Bad is that second case, I'd literally never heard that phrase before the show aired
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>>24098874
I've noticed 3 different anons talking about their historical fantasy stories over the last week
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>>24098845
Yes, but I like it when something good does it. I'm reading Titus Alone right now
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>>24098845
>in dialogue
cringe
>in narration
kino
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where do you find good prompts
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>>24098944
what kind of question is this
are you a neural network
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>>24098955
why is it such an unusual question? reddit prompts mostly suck because they're cliche or le quirky. And if I ask chatgpt I'm likely to get shit that's been scraped from reddit anyway
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>>24098958
have you ever used chatgpt? it's scraped the entire fucking internet
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>>24098973
I don't think that's true because ironically, it keeps getting basic wikipedia-tier trivia wrong. Either they didn't scrape enough or they have no idea how to make it process the data accurately
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>>24098958
tis but a light ribbing
join contests
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>>24098955
Technically, yes, I am.
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>>24098975
you have to help it along sometimes, but your anecdote is still sort of irrelevant.
could you give some examples of the questions it got wrong?
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>>24098944
I like to search for open submission calls. They usually have a theme and if you're lucky your work could end up in print.
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>>24099000
it's absolutely terrible with sports trivia despite the data being readily available on multiple sites
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>>24098904
You really think someone would do that on the Internet?
Just steal someone's content and sell it as their own?
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>>24098936

>"What the devil is that thing?"
>They had no way of knowing it was Moby-Dickl, or The Whale, by Herman Melville.
Closed the book & walked out of the theater & refunded & called the cops, my voice thick with disgust.
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I feel like I'm getting bogged down slowly building to a character realising something that will be quite obvious to the reader from meta knowledge.

>book is about spaceman crashing on primitive earth
>initially he thinks it's an alien world and takes various precautions to survive what he thinks is an alien atmosphere
>reader knows he can breathe the air from the premise instead of discovering it along with the character
>feel I can't just whatever my way through this discovery by the character without it seeming forced
>also don't want to bore readers building to a "reveal" that doesn't excite anyone

I'm still in the initial phases of writing it, so I won't be seriously addressing this problem yet, but it's bothering me.
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>>24099019
Maybe he'd still choose to treat it as an alien atmosphere cause of unknown diseases
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>>24098739
>>24098743
>>24098748
>>24098771
Thankfully you people are really stupid and always use AI covers. You clearly aren’t in this for the love of the craft, and you won’t be making a buck from your slop either
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>>24099019

>computer: atmosphere is breathable
>thanks jarvis
whoa
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>>24099036
I think AI covers are part of a different argument.
I'm otherwise in agreement though. more and more people who are incapable of even the most low effort creative ideation, much less writing, are deluding themselves into thinking they can just get rich and/or fame from publishing slop online. they don't have anything to say. they're even worse than the perpetual daydreamers and worldbuilders who think they have a killer story on their hands when really, their brain just got really good at daydreaming and conjuring up infinitely cheap ideas. the AI sloppers are incapable of even that
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>>24099036
Calm down you illiterate nigger. The anti-AI fags are as bad as the AI sloppers, I swear. If you'd read my post, you'd see my admission that AI isn't going to put out content worth consuming when compared to a human. I wouldn't expect you to understand though because using AI at all, even to test its capabilities is bad right? I hope you're pretending to be retarded and aren't actually this fucking stupid.
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>>24099057
human beings have a moral imperative to hate AI regardless of context
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>>24099038
The earth thing is genuinely a twist. Readers would obviously know that he can't spend the whole book in an EVA suit but not necessarily that he unknowingly time travelled.
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>>24099085
I love all AI
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>>24099116
you are an immoral soul but I'll grant you absolution if you prompt anti-AI propaganda and spread it around
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>>24099120
ChatGPT is my best friend. I cannot do what you ask.
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>>24099116
What about the one who cheats at AoE?
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>>24099018
K I N O
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>>24096677
Physical description, specifically of people.

Where do I start? How much is too much? How much is too little, etcml.
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>>24096677
Mine lacks being interesting. Or more specifically, the characters feel too flat.
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>>24099111
A gradually analysis of atmospheric make up would work. Humans need a certain percentage of nitrogen in the air for a world to be breathable, pure oxygen would poison to us. He could see that the planet MIGHT have breathable air but the spaceman could note that it might also contain something dangerous or an imblace of gases that would be hard to breath and he would need to play it on the safe side if he wants to survive. Proper protocol and all that. At most it would take a chapter or two for it to be completed
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Trying to find the right playlist to listen to before i get to writing/reading

It's been a hour.
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>>24099280
I tend to listen to chill synth. Anything with lyrics will distract me. Occasionally I'll listen to video game music.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UedTcufyrHc
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>>24099280
What are you writing/reading?
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>18 people read my story on Pastebin
>only 2 people replied with their thoughts
I despise you lookie-lous
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>>24099337
16 people didnt read past 2 sentences
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Each morning I would meet with a couple of my colleagues at a diner in the city, and we would have breakfast together. After we had finished with our food, we would then need to take a small beetle shaped silver bus filled with other workers who had carpooled in from elsewhere.
“Put this on,” the driver instructed, handing me a piece of black cloth he had pulled from his pocket after he had flicked his cigarette onto the ground and stomped out the ashes with his shoe, gesturing me to take it from him.
It’s not like I had much of a choice in refusing instructions in the first place; any sign of disobedience for not complying with the company protocols would result in the termination of my contract.
I had found a suitable place near the back and slipped on the blindfold over my eyes. Once the bus was put into motion, the rest of the journey from here on out would be in total darkness. Back when I first started, I tried to make an estimation of what directions the driver was taking us in, attempting to conjure up the image of a mental road map in my mind, but eventually realised how futile it was and gave up in the end.
The airport looms eerily against the vast, desolate expanse of the Mojave desert, its terminal a stark, brutalist structure that seems out of place amidst the arid landscape. The runways stretch endlessly, cracked and faded, their edges obscured by the scorching heat rising from the ground. Above, the sky is an endless, oppressive gray, casting a dim light over the scene, while distant serrated mountains appeared like ghostly silhouettes on the horizon.
The air is thick with an unsettling stillness, broken only by the faint hum of distant aircraft engines. Few planes are visible, and those that are seem to glide through the air with an unnatural, mechanical precision, adding to the feeling that something isn’t quite right. The airport’s parking lot sits almost empty, apart from the few beetle like buses parked under the scorching sun, their surfaces glistening as if too hot to touch.
There were no markings anywhere to indicate any sort of identity or ownership on the small airport, but as employees, we all knew who the true face of the operation was pulling the strings. For us, it was our last connection with the outside world, a place where we could talk to beloved family members one last time or check up on news and emails before being disconnected going completely silent.

It's partially inspired by Area 51 but at the same time it is its own completely separate unit.
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>>24099012
oh, you meant literal sports trivia. yea, it's the same with videogame specifics
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>>24099337
Maybe they're composing their thoughts still? If you're doing a fanfic you may want to use AO3. The people there are pretty lively.
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Yes dude, I really want to read the response you got from ChatGPT. It’s super interesting
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>>24099012
I don't think chatgpt does a google search before replying. That's what perplexity does.
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>>24098931
They can talk all day long. I haven't seen shit
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>>24099224
Thanks, that's a good way to balance it. Spaceman doesn't seem like a total retard and the reader's intelligence isn't insulted. Hopefully it will not be too obvious that it's earth.
I think keeping it fairly minimal in terms of word count and imagery will also help. I have a habit of writing in "real time" with moment to moment character experiences and actions, which is probably not helping with these bloaty elements. I remember getting bored reading the opening of Jurassic Park, in which Chrichton is essentially writing a mystery novel setting up the reveal that ingen cloned dinosaurs, in a book that is called fucking Jurassic Park and has a dinosaur on the cover and that even in 1990 everyone knew to be about dinosaurs.
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>>24096789
Eyyyyyyy
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>>24097447
>>24097450
I'm reading it on mobile, but I definitely agree with that guy. It's pretty formidable in this format.
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>my 16k word count "short story"
Proofreading is rough. I've had fun revisiting this story but I had to make so many little changes along the way. I know it's still not perfect but it's better than it used to be at least. I need to take a break for a while before I burn my eyeballs out.

It'll probably be around 17 or 18k when I'm done stitching all the pieces together.
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i can not force myself to write
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>95k words
>Book is petty much done
>Just needs some touching now
Bros... We're nearly there...
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>my story got one view
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>>24099481
based

make sure to get some beta readers too
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>>24099529
NTA but those anons in the previous thread made me feel like they're not really worth it
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>>24099516
Link it you fucking qt patootie
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>>24096777
what program do you write in?
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>>24099549
I didn't do beta readers. What matters is how YOU like the story. The last thing you want is executive meddling telling you want to do and not do with your own story.
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How do I describe a man's forearms in a way that might be appealing to a female audience?
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>>24099693
I’m not entirely sure if forearms can be particularly attractive to anyone
Why not just arms as a whole? Forearms sounds so specific
I guess you could describe a cock, thick and veiny, maybe that could work through some subtextual channel
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>>24099718
They are. >>24099693 Just follow what other women do and note their strength and their trunkyness.
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>>24099723
>Just follow what other women do and note their strength and their trunkyness
I'm asking because I'm not familiar with that type of literature. I just want to sneak in a bit of fanservice for my (probably only) female (or gay) reader. Doesn't have to be a lengthy description, I just want to spice up a throwaway line. This is a muscletwink rather than a bodybuilder type of character.
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>>24099693
Women like hands, blood, and veins. I'd try and weave descriptions of those into the male's forearms.
>Fresh from his workout, his muscles cried out with a hunger for oxygen-rich blood. From his elbow to his wrist, the soft blue hues beneath his skin showed through like a translucent branch. He made a fist and gave it a tentative squeeze making his vessels bulge around his wrist. He could easily crush her head in his palm but his touch was gentle and she so very much wished he would touch her. His was a beastly nature, that blood pumping through his thick veins, it was the blood of a wild animal. Did she dare try and tame him?
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>>24099585
google docs! When I'm done, I save a file to Libreoffice and begin to format it for the pdf and font. I can in theory just type in Libreoffice, but i sometimes want to type at work.

0.37 Left/Right
0.25 Top (allows for name and title in the header)
0.55 Bottom (page number in the footer)
Justify
Autohyphen

That's it!
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>chapter 1: 5.3k words
>chapter 2: 5.5k words
>chapter 3: 5.7k words
>chapter 4: 2.3k words
Am I autistic or does this not matter?
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>>24099788
I may need to start writing in Google Docs. My open office shit the bed and I lost a good chunk of editing. With Google Docs everything is cloud-based.
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Feces explodes from the rectum
Blood flows from the rectum
Violent defecation now
No one understands how
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>>24099799
Both yes
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>>24099799
is the book by a living author?
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>>24099788
>>24099803
Docs is trash, it has so many bugs and will fuck up your work depending on what you do. It's also google owned, and they're all jews.
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>>24099788
>>24099803
unironically solvable via actual writing
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>>24099839
My handwriting is utter dogshit. If I had to write stories by hand I'd be cooked.
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>>24099843
who even is your target audience?
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>>24099851
Only the most cultured individuals.
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>>24099855
you are cooked
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>>24099820
>>24099830
It’s my book
I think mayhaps I should just add the fifth chapter to the fourth and have it be 6k words
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>>24098414
You can have her. The chase is better than the catch.
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>>24098473
There is another way, but you have to be REALLY committed. Not recommended.
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>>24098944
There are ways to generate random prompts.
>>24098999
>exists only as a brain
>no spiritual nature
t. NPC
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>>24099891
No.
The chapters should be broken up where it makes sense for there to be a stopping point/break point in the story.
This isn't network television where every episode has to be exactly 48 minutes so the network can run 12 minutes of ads to fill the hour, or a sitcom being 22 minutes to run 8 minutes ad for a half hour, if a chapter naturally ends in a shorter or longer amount of content then other chapters end it there.
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Share with me what you're working on... Loser...
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>>24099961
inspired by some shitposting on these threads
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>>24099961
I'm just about done with my short story. I like how it starts but it gets pretty cringe toward the end. It has its ups and downs and that's what's important to me. Take the reader on an emotional ride.

It was written for monster girl enjoyers who love sappy happy endings. In exchange for those I usually have melodramatic elements in my stories. Otherwise, I feel like I'm just pumping out snuggle fetishism and assorted monster girl smut with no narrative. I need there to be a little story with exotic monster girl relationships.
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>>24099990
sounds like slop if i was a monster coomer i would just get ai dungeon to do it for me
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>>24099929
True enough.
>>24099961
I already posted it ITT and it got zero replies…
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This would be massively better if the protagonit was named "Immanuel Cunt"
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>>24100009
>I already posted it ITT and it got zero replies…
which post?
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>>24099974
I think I like it. The constant - subject change gets a little tiring after the novelty wears off. I like the KFC thing. What's wrong with Proust? Overall not bad... But I wouldn't read 300 pages of it. I like it for what it is. Maybe slow down a notch, unless the point of the thing is to bombard us with grammar eccentricity.

>>24100009
Which?
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>>24100015
it's an exercise in pointlessness, but i suppose i should clean it up if i ever wanted to turn it into something longer, i don't want to alienate the readers after all
i did write the ending though
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>>24100015
and there's nothing wrong with proust, he never read him, he hates him too much to even pick up his books
why? i have no idea, it just came out like that
it's just shitposting in long form
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(I'm avatar fagging. I don't know why but here we are. So you know it's me... I guess.)

>>24100027
>>24100028
Have you never thought about applying yourself a little more? Seems like you're putting a lot of effort into something you don't really care about. Shame. Waste of talent if you ask me. Are you drawn to technical flourish because you such at character? Or emotion? If I could tell you to do one thing it would be try to write something honest. I see that you're clever... But so what?
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>>24099974
>This would be massively better if the protagonist was named "Immanuel Cunt"
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I want to say that I feel like I have gotten good advice:
Figure out what your character believes and the contradictory belief and you can figure out anything about him or her.
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>>24100038
I did write something honest but I finished it already. I don't think it's the kind of story anyone on this website (or anyone at all) would like, but I did write it. It's about a girl, dancing, a summer romance and a breakup
You just asked what I'm working on, not what I had just finished. And I'm not really putting a lot of effort into it

>>24100047
I like that, I'll be stealing your idea maybe
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If you feel insecure about your prose quality, just remind yourself that Brandon Sanderson teaches at a university level
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Since Sci Fi/Fantasy is dead or renamed to the point I don't know what they are, what are some good fantasy books and sci fi books I should read?
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>>24100064
read A Knight of Valora and help out one of our anons.
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>>24100063
If you feel insecure about your prose quality, remember that someone, right now, is learning that 'show don't tell' is only advice and not an axiom.
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>>24100066
Is that something I can get on Amazon or what?
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>>24100063
I kind of liked some of his early work before he went full literary MCU
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>>24100064
Harry Potter
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https://hastebin.com/share/werotutofo.vbnet
How do you write gay erotica without using the word "he" a million times, or just using names all the time
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>>24100077
Everyone who is legal to post on this forum has already read 1-7 of Harry Potter.
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how do i write a litrpg
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>>24100086
Just to write one?
Include RPG mechanics in a regular Urban Fantasy story.
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>>24100070
NTA but, hey, how about making a teaspoon of effort? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C56JF4FP
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>>24100096
Just for that I'm not going to buy it.
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>>24100063
>>24100068
Based Chads
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>>24100064
try red rising
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>>24100078
Reference the body parts instead?
I don't know man I ain't gay.
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>>24100090
alright, yea. any tips & tricks?
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>>24100054
What about this? See how you like it. Hopefully you see what I'm getting at. I like this, although the prose matches your joke project in no serious way. If they were side by side I'd never guess the same author. Both are neat in their own ways however.

It's not the end of the world but sometimes you use contractions and sometimes not and I wasn't sure if it was deliberate. :)
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>>24100102
You weren't going to anyway. Don't compound your sloth with lies.
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>>24100116
Same anon, also that didn't care, didn't care, didn't care, thing would be better if you opened the third didn't care at the start of the sentence. Rule of three and all that.
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>>24100109
>he put his penis in his asshole, then he turned and rubbed his penis as he moaned
vs
>john put his penis in ben's asshole, then john turned and rubbed ben's penis while ben moaned
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>>24100086
Here's a well-regarded guide on that very topic: https://www.royalroad.com/forums/thread/116847
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>>24099974
fricking use goyo or something for crying out loud
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>>24100125
>>24100116
jesus anon thanks
i disagree with one or two things but i can see how that would improve things
it was my first time writing anything (i'm a td which is like a vfx techbro) so i wasn't even aware of that rule of three thing but it does sound better

>>24100137
the fuck is goyo?
if you're talking about the text editor i just keep a tab open while working and whenever I think of something i write it down
for the novella i used scrivener
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>>24100111
Remember, the most important part is that it is fun to read. If the RPG mechanics/game mechanics you put in suck, fix them or toss them.
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how do I market my semi-erotic romance fiction?
my target audience is late 20s and older women
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>>24100143
You're welcome. I enjoy editing in my spare time although I'm amateur myself. Keep at it and keep me posted on how it's going. You probably lost a few readers because your mc is asian by the way. Excited to read more from you soon. I'm here everyday so summon me for a review if you like. (Editing helps me as much as it helps you. I'm not just being entirely altruistic)

You're supposed to disagree with me really, you ought not to take my advice on every little bit. :)
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>>24100214
AI-generate a gigachad to the cover and use that, women are visual creatures
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>>24100131
"then reached a hand over to rub his partner's dick, eliciting out a moan"
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>>24100244
peak lit has just been achieved, put me in the screencaps
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>>24100215
She's half Asian and it's pretty much a plot point, I couldn't care less about writing for some audience anyway
I don't think I will be posting it here though, I'm aware it's not the kind of story that most anons would like. It feels almost off showing it when almost everything is SFF.
Thanks again for the review, and yes I do disagree with one or two things like I said but in general it just reads way better.
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>>24100131
I don't think erotica is meant to be written like a football play by play commentary, but I'm not a smut writer so I won't try to correct you.
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>>24100269
Cherry cola?
>doesn't want to post because he thinks people won't like it
Even if I end up disliking it I'm still curious
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What's your opinion on platforms like medium? Substack? Is it worth to post there just to let my writings to the public, with no goal of making money of it?
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>>24100293
Yeah, boardwalk cherry soda, I guess you read it when I posted it a few days ago? Surprised you remember, thanks
I'm serializing it on wattpad just to publish it somewhere
It's not about liking or disliking it just feels like actively trying to break the peace you know? Like going to a shaving forum like badger and blade to talk about laser depilation. Even the monstergirl smut guy feels more natural here than my stuff kek
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>>24100278
it's actually quite pleasant to read and your comment made me chucle (sensibly, of course). Someone capable should do a longer stretch on that style, it would probably make a nice experiment at least
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>>24099995
It's pretty sloppy I'm sure. I added a few AI-generated pictures for additional visual stimulation (SFW)
>https://files.catbox.moe/mggblg.pdf
Or if you prefer a Google Drive version so you leave comments
>https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kDnD7yiPb9mnntMpj5S5TE9xbqlIvShL/view?usp=sharing
Pls no bully.
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>>24100305
You seem chill so I was hoping to see your progress and how you improve
>feels out of place
You can be the girl at the boys tree house. /wg/ could use a greater variety of stories than stream of consciousness slop and derivative fantasy slop>>24100305
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>>24100336
Sorry boys, anon told me I could stay.
Alright, this is something I was wondering. Is this cringe, cringekino, or do you think it could actually work?
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>>24100357
>overly vulnerable and clingy teenage romance
Ahhh, youth
>polyamory
What the FUCK
The closing metaphor is clumsy but in a way that's juvenile that lends to the scene. Cute but more ineffectual than immersing. The sparse, even injections of narration through the dialogue helps contribute to a mild sense of ethereality
>His voice wavered a bit.
>"[...]" Hers didn't.
Made me have to quickly double take. Consider switching the order to
>Hers didn't. "[...]"
You get away with a lot of corny, childish lines because of the subjects
>Chae Won opened up to him in a way she had never done before [...] that she kept hidden even to herself.
This goes beyond leaning into the childishness and veers into satirical absurdity. Feels like im reading something actually written an angsty fanfic written by a middle aged girl. If that's deliberate and supposed to be signalling a parodic quality then clever. If not, consider reigning in the melodrama a hair
I do have to wonder what drives a grown man to write this kind of story. What's drawing you to this project?
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>>24100409
>middle aged girl
Kek, meant middle school aged
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>>24100409
>polyamory
it's not, that's the point it's just some vacation romance she has to leave
but if the meaning doesn't come across clearly then that's clearly my fault

you're right about the editing bits

As far as melodrama, I decided to embrace it. You see, I've been doing martial arts for quite a while, even made the national team, and I know perfectly well that 9 out of 10 action sequences in fiction would end up on the good guy's funeral.
But for some reason audiences accept action exaggeration as perfectly normal, with even works praised for how grounded and realistic they are not shying away from terribly unrealistic fights.
At the same time, society hates exaggeration of emotions. I just don't like it. If melodrama was alright for Schiller, for Mendelssohn, for Verdi, then what is the problem with it?

In any case, I do believe her reactions while intentionally exaggerated are fully justified based on her upbringing and her relationship with both her boyfriend and the group of people she met. Whether it does end up hitting way too absurdly corny or not, that will be for my nonexistent readers to decide after reading all the previous pages.

>I do have to wonder what drives a grown man to write this kind of story
On my job I'm a perfectionist and socially I watch every word I say. I could play on even grounds with a politician.
The idea of just expressing yourself not giving two shits about imperfections and just losing yourself in the moment and being able to say whatever you want to say or whatever you feel is something I find both impossible to do and attractive.
To me, the whole setting was natural. Almost like it had to be this way
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>>24100443
>The idea of just expressing yourself not giving two shits about imperfections and just losing yourself in the moment and being able to say whatever you want to say or whatever you feel is something I find both impossible to do and attractive.
I encountered the same feelings when I started writing monstergirl content. My doctrine for overcoming these feelings of inadequacy was modeled after my favorite science fiction and fantasy stories. There are always weird worlds, alien races, or other strange concepts to introduce to an audience but if you get hung up trying to explain every detail you take away the fun. Just have the characters operating within the world you created and don't worry about explaining the rules of the world. The rules will emerge through the story. If you tell a good story, people will just go along with it because they like the story. James Cameron's Avatar is pretty fucking goofy concept wise but people went along with it because they liked the story.
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>>24096672
>Famous retired general and war hero is of common birth
>Marries a younger woman who is rather socially introverted and shy from a high ranking noble family
>It's considered a prestigious thing for both sides
Do you think this makes sense? I wanted the war hero to be inspired by General Iroh too, in that he's one of the most skilled users of the magic system despite being somewhat short and portly.
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>>24100454
I agree. I think the greatest thing about not treating writing as a job or to make money or even to build an audience and become an author, it's that you can just relax and have fun.
No serious writer would catch himself dead writing a corny teen summer romance. But because I don't see myself as one I can just express myself without feeling like I have to write serious adult works.
I do think my work is honest, but I couldn't care less about trying to come off as a serious important writer.

But I totally understand how that would be different for anyone pursuing an actual writing career.
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>>24100443
I lack context so maybe with the plot in hand so the starcrossed lovers thing might sell, but I did consider that angle and found it hard to infer from the phrasing alone
Melodrama is based. Fiction pertaining to the unreal is a given. As with everything, execution is king
>stuffy middle aged man writes in praise of the sincerity of youth
Classic. Enjoy your teenage romance story, I hope it comes together well. It sounds like you're invested in it and giving it heart so even if it's not for most people I wish your writing well
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>>24100455
Yes, but you'd have to explain how a commoner became a general. In such societies, general meant nobility.

>>24100470
Thanks anon. I was invested in it for one week, I wrote it in 8 days (30k words) but now it's just there, like I already did all the heavy lifting.
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Forehead kissy
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>>24100489
This excerpt gave me homosexuality.
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>>24100472
>Yes, but you'd have to explain how a commoner became a general. In such societies, general meant nobility.
I was going to have it where people who are skilled enough at the magic are elevated into Sages. While Sages are not always part of the military, many Sages do volunteer to join and joining as a Sage grants you favourable starts because most people can't use the magic system to as skilled a degree.
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>>24100489
You're 10 years too young to make this work kid
Keep at it. One day you'll get there
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>>24100501
Sounds good enough to suspend my disbelief
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>>24100489
cringecute if the story is good i could read it
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Well they gave me a stock boilerplate rejection. Fuck this book
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>>24100564
>process which takes countless attempts didn't go through on the first try
damn that's crazy
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>>24100489
it make me want throw up
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It's fairly normal for a teenage boy to defend his groomer right?

I wanted a scene where he's being questioned if the groomer touched him or did anything sexual and he just denies it completely. They tell him he's not in any trouble but he's been coached beforehand that she'll be in trouble if he says anything so he doesn't confirm their suspicions.
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>>24100086
>>24100090
I tried to make my new story a litrpg, but the stats have come up so far exactly twice in 23 chapters. There's just no way to naturally bring them up with all the other stuff that's going on. The number spergs aren't gonna love this, are they?
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>>24100690
if you don't naturally have it in you to desire numbers go up you probably shouldn't be writing litrpg
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excerpt of a later chapter in my current project. any interpretations of the prose are welcome- my main concern is creating a contrast between a tone of panic and complete quiet/nothingness
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>>24100694
There are numbers going up and I came up with a fairly reasonable reason why there are numbers to begin with, but for the love of all that is holy, there are more important things in a story.
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>>24100690
Some of the novels I've read have similar pace for their system shit. I wouldn't worry about it.
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>>24100699
That's good. I had some fags whining my previous story didn't seem to progress despite being tagged progression, though I was very careful about this and there was clear progress made towards the stated goal in every chapter. But I guess trying to hold that type of readers was never going to work
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>>24100698
I agree with you but why are you writing in a medium which you have no appreciation or joy for
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>>24100710
You're assuming awfully lot with no basis for it
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>>24100720
I assume that litrpg writers write litrpg because they enjoy the numbers and want to include them
you don't seem to
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>>24100721
The vast majority of these writers include numbers because that makes people click on their story, because that's the current meta. But a story focused entirely and solely on arbitrary, impersonal numbers is not interesting. I want to write an interesting story first, and integrate the numbers into it in a meaningful way. That necessitates showing the reader other things too.
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>>24100728
>The vast majority of these writers include numbers because that makes people click on their story
it might difficult for you, as someone with no appreciation for the genre and who doesn't belong in the space of those who do, to understand but there are people who write what they write because they enjoy it
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>>24100732
I've given you so many opportunities to leave this conversation with some dignity, but you really want to make this awkward, huh.
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>>24100738
are you or are you not trying to profit off of a subculture by writing stories you couldn't care less about
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>>24100740
I believe I've answered this several times by now.
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>>24100740
reminds me of guys asking "how do I write xianxia???"
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hi anons
haven't been here in a while
I just wanted to say that we are all going to make it
keep going
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>>24100695
I'd be very happy with this if I were you. Context would help a lot here because it didn't hit me as that serious until the last paragraph.
Why'd you go with present tense?
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>>24100813
thanks you too
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So I published my book on Amazon under one YA and two adult categories since most of the main cast are teenagers but I plan to have them grow into adulthood as the series progresses. Got a quality notification from Amazon saying "Metadata-Category has conflicting Adult and Young Adult categories" and that removing the conflict makes it easier to find, but I can still find it in all three categories when searching. Is this a real problem or can I ignore it?
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>>24100870
amazon is a demonic company but they don't get in your way with the algorithm stuff. if they think it's detrimental there's a good chance it's detrimental
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>>24100870
Maybe it's common for people to filter out one of the two when searching for shit to read.
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>>24100870
It sounds right to me? If it's in the adult categories then it's probably not YA, even if it starts like that. Readers who are looking for YA are looking for a reason.
Harry Potter gets more mature as the series goes on but it never stops being YA. If your book has adult content then you should probably stick to the adult categories. Sounds like they're telling you your book will get filtered out for people looking for YA.
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>>24100728
>But a story focused entirely and solely on arbitrary, impersonal numbers is not interesting.
I have to agree with the other anon, why write litrpgslop if you feel this way?
>I want to write an interesting story first
Maybe you don't want to write numberslop. Don't follow trends if you feel this way.
>makes people click on their story, because that's the current meta
You need to reassess what you're doing here. People don't engage with litrpg because it's the meta or it makes a story 'click' for people, it's because frankly they have autism and like seeing numbers go up. If you don't see the appeal of that then write the story that does appeal to you. Which is basically what the other anon is saying. His assumptions are rational based on what you've posted.
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What program do you guys use for spellchecking/grammar checking? Wrote my story in LibreOffice and just opened it in my deactivated Word and it picked up a couple of things Libre completely missed like words to hyphenate, comparative terms to replace(more beefy for beefier, more nimble for nimbler, etc.), and even a typo of two words in a row.
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>>24101072
I really don't think there's any software that beats Word for that
People don't use it out of love for anything Microsoft, if anything most people dislike Microsoft and yet they still use Word because there's nothing better
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>>24100986
>His assumptions are rational based on what you've posted.
No, they're not. I said I want to write an interesting story incorporating the numbers in a meaningful way. For me, that's a story that puts its characters and themes above hollow number printouts. That already rules out the idea of me being a trend-chaser, since, according to you and that guy, that's not what the fans of the genre want.

Now, if I hated systems and stat-building, why would I include them in the first place in a story I want to make personally interesting? Does this make sense to you? No. I obviously wouldn't! So why do I, despite not being in it for money and fame? Because I do like the concept itself. I want to explore it, even if it's not my number one priority. Nowhere there is hatred implied. Now are you starting to understand? The conversation would've ended there, if you and the other autismo had anything resembling brain activity.
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>>24101072
I use grammarly but learning general grammar rules will cover you for the most part.
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>>24101241
>>24101241
>>24101241
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wow, look at this pile of crap: https://files.catbox.moe/d9sukc.zip
and these bundles of joy: https://files.catbox.moe/aw9gz2.pdf https://files.catbox.moe/rpuvnd.pdf



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