>>24108233
Typical Scientologist behaviour right there...
Anyway, I liked Norse Mythology despite it only focusing on Thor and not going into detail about the cosmology or anything with more depth. Smoke and Mirrors is a fun short story collection. Everything else is meh.

>>24108233
Him and Alan Moore are both kind of mid-wit authors who get a lot of love from comic book nerds more than novel readers.
Sandman's first half was solid.

>>24108233
None. Everything i've read from him is extremely derivative trash. Neverwhere, The Graveyard Book, Stardust, American Gods, Anansi Boys, the "modernized" Norse Myth book all fucking utter dogshit of the most stale kind.
What's actually objectionable about Gaiman isn't being a creeper or a stereotypical twitter libshit feminist but that his writing is fucking godawful to the point that I will actively look for editions of books that he DIDN'T write the foreword to.

>>24108245
>Scientologist
Anon...stop it

And his subversion of Norse Mythology? It was Marvel level Thor and it was terrible writing. Lots needed edited. It makes sense it was so poor. Took him years. Clearly too busy raping people

>>24108249
moore is more respectable cause he was never obnoxious about his politics and was more of a spiritual/occult guy

>>24108249
Part of me also hopes that Alan Moore also gets called out as a sexual deviant. Just so we can also see how Alan Moores sexual proclivities are 10 times more imaginative than Kneel Gaymans

>>24108270
Tbf I only enjoyed it because it was comfy. I read it when I was in hospital. But yeah, it was Marvel tier

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>>24108272
>he was never obnoxious about his politics
What alternate dimension are you living in, anon? Moore literally politicises everything. Gayman was just obnoxious online like a lot of other modern day writers. His work wasn't littered with lefty politics.

>>24108280
I doubt Alan Moore has ever had sex

>>24108293
oh my god he wore a shirt once, what a social justice warrior

>>24108280
>Gaiman: Call me master
>Moore: I demand that you not refer to me at all, you are not allowed to acknowledge me as anything other than an entity, the physical manifestation of a power you cannot begin to comprehend. If you are willing to proceed, please undress.

>>24108293
>His work wasn't littered with lefty politics.
Okay now you're just admitting you never read Sandman.

>>24108233
>Neil Gayman
>rapes women

>>24108233
Kek so this is actually real? What a surprise that a hyper-leftoid turns out to be a rapist. True shocker.

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>>24108233
>graphic novel
Sandman
>book novel
American Gods
https://i.imgur.com/WdeILn4.gif

>>24108352
That's because having sex with a woman is 200% faggotry

I know we can't share epubs here, but we can share pdfs of books on /tg/...
>>>/tg/94801142

>>24108466
>>graphic novel
No such thing exists. They are comics

>>24108233
>jewish
none

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>>24108466
>Sandman
https://i.imgur.com/7V2coaA.gif
>>24108626
>the pictures... they are coming... alive!

>>24108672
>>the pictures... they are coming... alive!
Hardly

>>24108466
>reddit spacing in a book

>>24108280
*ahem* Lost Girls
>>24108304
which Moore's wife illustrated

>>24108233
>male feminist
That one stonetoss comic is gonna get spammed now.

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>>24108675

>>24108466
how the fuck do you read so fast

>>24108632
True. I will never read anything written by Jews.

>>24108258
>Neverwhere, The Graveyard Book, Stardust, American Gods, Anansi Boys, the "modernized" Norse Myth book all fucking utter dogshit of the most stale kind.
You disliked the first 5 and went back for the 6th?

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>>24108716
too much watching videos at 3x+ speed

>>24108245
>Scientologist
Mormons also do weird shit like this

Why doesn't he just switch to writing erotic novels instead? Women love that shit.

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>>24108733
It's called "reading"

>>24108733
I got tricked into thinking he had something going due to Pratchett carrying Good Omens (which is worse than most pratchett to boot) and read Neverwhere, American Gods and Anansi Boys without ever really grasping what I didn't like about them.
The rest were gifts that I read more for the sake of it and around the time the Graveyard Book came out I was convinced he was a total hackfraud.

>>24108879
For me, my issue was that I never really felt the love for his books like so many others seemed to. Was it genre? Was it prose? Dunno. He always seemed like a bit of a hack fraud, but could never and still to this day, struggle to explain to people why I'm not a fan beyond just "his books don't do much for me"

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>>24108233
>degenerate pervert raped women in truly disgusting ways
>>24108245
>Scientologist
>>24108270
>hates Norse mythology
>>24108850
>Mormons

But in reality...

>>24108850
How many male feminists do mormons have in their files?

Y'all, I just ate my boogers.

sandman was very good desu. Is that his masterpiece?

>>24108258
> I will actively look for editions of books that he DIDN'T write the foreword to.
This. Hopefully now that he's cancelled people will stop asking him to write shitty forewords;

>>24109107
Yes

This is a good example of the reason people like Zuckerberg embrace the right wing. I can't think of an author more pandering and more entirely of the left, right from the start his work was full of representation of weird sexualities and identity politics. And yet there is no loyalty, no hesitation, his fans immediately compete with each other to chastise his memory louder than each other and claim they always thought he was a creep. In light of examples like this who would think to embrace liberal views? Even if your genuine leanings are leftward the risk of eventually being put in the barrel is too great.

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Neil Gaiman is a comic book fag, which has no place in LITERATURE. The only reason people know his name is he wrote a comic book that was slightly better than SpiderMan BatMan goyslop, which is such a fucking low bar to clear that he deserves nothing for it. He tried writing novels, they are all ass. Compare his shit to H.G. Wells, Shakespeare, Jules Verne, etc., all of whom Gayman plagarizes, and he's just a shit hack who managed to find a medium, comics, where "shit hack" is comparatively genius.

Same with vidya fags. Yes, Mass Effect is a better story than Super Mario Brothers. But it's still a shit story. Get this shit out of /lit/ and back to whatever comicfag channel the stinky retards hang out in.

>>24109315
>In light of examples like this who would think to embrace liberal views? Even if your genuine leanings are leftward the risk of eventually being put in the barrel is too great.
Yeah it's so hard to avoid raping women. Sometimes it just happens, you know? No way to predict it, you could be just minding your own business and being a good liberal for decades and then as soon as you accidentally rape some girl, everyone turns on you! It's insane!

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>>24108233
KNEEL Gay Man is living proof that being a degenerate doesn't make you a good writer

>>24109329
Once, long ago, there was a concept of "innocence until proven guilty". It's forgotten now, but it was the foundation of our system of justice.

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>>24109373
You got to thank the likes of Neil Gaiman for that.
>#BelieveAllWomen - Neil Gaiman

>>24109445
Damn. Fuck him then. Justice waived

>>24108326
>/lit/
>Best Neil Gaiman Books Thread
>muh you haven't read a comic book!!!
Think you're in the wrong place, buddy. Every "serious" comic book post-1980s is all lefty-drivel, largely due to Alan Moore. So why would I have any reason reading Slopman or any other comicbook (critics) champion as the best in the medium?

>>24109373
Anon, here's all the evidence you need:
>jewish
>male-feminist
>lefty
Now, if that's not enough to prove his guilt then you must be a rabbi or a lefty freak yourself.

>>24108233
>edgelord
>2016 twitter brain aids
>sex pest

Clockwork.

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You know who never raped women? John Norman.
>Some men, I gather, dislike women, and enjoy hurting them. That makes no sense to me. Women are wonderful, and precious. It is a delight to own one; why would one hurt her? What would be the point of that, mere sadistic pleasure? I think we might distinguish between, say, S/M sex, or sadomasochistic sex, and M/S sex, or Master/Slave Sex. In a sense they seem opposite. Love is important. It is not to be confused with cruelty. Gratuitous cruelty seems to me uncalled for, and ugly, morally and aesthetically. Too, it seems unworthy of a true master. The point is loving and serving, and owning and mastering, not hurting.
https://gizmodo.com/john-norman-the-philosophy-professor-who-created-the-b-5783833

>>24108272
>Moore was never obnoxious about his politics
Moore is a pretty obnoxious anarchist, but he has so much other shit going on with him (like being a wizard) that it kind of blends into the background.
>>24108280
It wouldn't change my opinion of him because I would be extremely shocked if he didn't have some kind of extreme fetish given his nature. Moore is chaos manifest in a lot of ways but he fucking owns it.

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>>24109730
damn that's crazy bro

>>24108245
>Typical Scientologist behaviour right there...
Look at this kike trying to deflect from the fact that Gaiman is a JEW. Good lord you people are fucking done hah.

>>24108477
checked and based

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>>24108466
>>book novel
>American Gods
>https://i.imgur.com/WdeILn4.gif (embed)
I liked Anasis's Boys as well:
https://i.imgur.com/TRtK9Yn.gif
Reminded my of the relationship with my brother who was my roommate for many years.
Every day felt like a small armageddon...

>>24108233
Don't care. Didn't like his writing style in The Anansi Boys and cut him off. I spent too much time, when I was younger, burning through all of Salman Rushdie's stuff, even though I initially didn't like his style, but thought it would get better. It didn't.

>>24109825
>It is a delight to own one; why would one hurt her?
Based

>>24108233
I sincerely enjoy Good Omens, but it feels way more Terry than Neil

>>24108270
This, it was terrible.
>>24110360
>>24110337
There was a really slimy character in Anansi Boys that was so spot on, reminded me of this boss I used to have.
He did have a certain something with some of his books but there was always something I kinda hated too.

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>>24109000
Binders full of 'em!

>>24111181
Zoomers won't appreciate this post anon, but I do

Please Fucking help! What are even the Fucking charges here!? This is Fucking Kafka! How can Neil defend himself if they won't even tell him what crimes he committed!

Neil Gaiman is not guilty due to the emancipation proclamation! This decree was not just about the liberation of bodies but the liberation of the human spirit from bondage. In a similar vein, I argue that Neil's work has always been about freeing the imagination from the shackles of convention and societal norms. His narratives are explorations into freedom, into the essence of what it means to be human, to be free from misconceptions and prejudice. The charges against Neil are, in essence, an assault on this very freedom of expression, on the liberty to explore dark and complex human experiences through art!

St. Thomas Aquinas posits that there is a divine order, a natural law, which is discernible through reason and inherent in human nature. This law includes principles of justice, fairness, and the pursuit of truth. Neil's stories, his characters, are woven with threads of truth about human nature - its darkness, its light, its complexities. If we are to judge by Aquinas's standards, then we must also consider the intent behind the action. Neil's intent has never been to harm but to delve into the psyche, to understand and perhaps, through understanding, to heal. The accusations he faces are not just against him but against the very act of storytelling, of exploring the human condition in all its forms. To accuse Neil of sexual misconduct under the guise of art is to misunderstand the purpose and the sanctity of creation!

>>24108233
https://journal.neilgaiman.com/2025/01/breaking-silence.html
https://journal.neilgaiman.com/2025/01/breaking-silence.html
https://journal.neilgaiman.com/2025/01/breaking-silence.html

HE RESPONSED


>Over the past many months, I have watched the stories circulating the internet about me with horror and dismay. I’ve stayed quiet until now, both out of respect for the people who were sharing their stories and out of a desire not to draw even more attention to a lot of misinformation. I've always tried to be a private person, and felt increasingly that social media was the wrong place to talk about important personal matters. I've now reached the point where I feel that I should say something.

>As I read through this latest collection of accounts, there are moments I half-recognise and moments I don’t, descriptions of things that happened sitting beside things that emphatically did not happen. I’m far from a perfect person, but I have never engaged in non-consensual sexual activity with anyone. Ever. I went back to read the messages I exchanged with the women around and following the occasions that have subsequently been reported as being abusive. These messages read now as they did when I received them – of two people enjoying entirely consensual sexual relationships and wanting to see one another again. At the time I was in those relationships, they seemed positive and happy on both sides.

>And I also realise, looking through them, years later, that I could have and should have done so much better. I was emotionally unavailable while being sexually available, self-focused and not as thoughtful as I could or should have been. I was obviously careless with people's hearts and feelings, and that's something that I really, deeply regret. It was selfish of me. I was caught up in my own story and I ignored other people's. I’ve spent some months now taking a long, hard look at who I have been and how I have made people feel.

>Like most of us, I’m learning, and I'm trying to do the work needed, and I know that that's not an overnight process. I hope that with the help of good people, I'll continue to grow. I understand that not everyone will believe me or even care what I say but I’ll be doing the work anyway, for myself, my family and the people I love. I will be doing my very best to deserve their trust, as well as the trust of my readers. At the same time, as I reflect on my past – and as I re-review everything that actually happened as opposed to what is being alleged – I don't accept there was any abuse. To repeat, I have never engaged in non-consensual sexual activity with anyone.

FLIGUGIGU

>>24111537
>Ackshually it was margarine not butter
>Anuses were destroyed, consensually destroyed tho

If this continues to snowball and he can't get published/work on projects, I predict Neil Gaiman, Trump supporter within 3months.

>>24108233
what even happened?

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>>24111412
I appreciate the weirdness that is Mormonism

>>24111620
Anuses were filled with cum and butter

>>24108233
>reddit screenshot thread
and here i thought /lit/ would have higher standards than the rest of the board

>>24111688
/lit/ is a board. You mean the website, and that one's been redditwitter central for a very long time now.

Why is it always Jews when it comes to sexual perversions? I'm not even saying it was "rape" or that he did anything unlawful. But come on, everytime there is sex scandal, why is this ethnicity is massively overpresented?

>>24111702
cuz we're rich and inbred as fuuuck, look it up lmao

>>24111723
hoooooly based

>>24111702
>Why is it always Jews when it comes to sexual perversions?
They fuck too much, so much it makes them neurotic and crazy. But what can you say, they're alphas.

I was at the library today and saw The Neil Gaiman Reader, I crossed my arms and shook my head so it was clear to everyone there that I disapproved.

>>24111634
Do Mormons ever go to the beach?

>>24112059
Thank you for taking a stand. *hugs*

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>>24108233
pack it up boys, the roastie made it all up, Neil Gayman is innocent

>>24112290
impressive,very nice
now let's see how brainwashed liberals take this.
i unironically dont understand what happened to this site too. for years we criticized these femcels to make money by suing rich celebrities for being their rape victims (all allegedly ) and the dumb cancel culture will bite these lies and start their "guilty until proven innocent" reign of terror like fucking Robespirres

>>24112338 -> >>24109445

>>24112470
it's different when it happens to him though

>>24109985
Are you a genuine autist, anon?

>>24109985
I didn't even realize it until you mentioned it. Every time.
>>24112470
kek karma is a bitch

>>24111595
There is nothing wrong with the destruction of an anus with consent. Destruction is essential to construction. If we want to build the new, we must be willing to let the old burn.

>>24108245
Smoke and Mirrors is awful, the only halfway decent short story in it is the dark fantasy one set in the middle ages

>>24111638
lol

>Neil Gaiman
>Stands while raping member of opposite sex
Explain.

I tried reading American Gods and it was one of the most repulsive things i have ever read. There was even cuckold in that garbage. I will keep rereading Borges, thank you.

>>24108233
> Scientologist
He's jewish

>>24112585
I quite liked it, although I read it when I was 17/18. I enjoyed the story about the troll that could smell colours and stars and the story about the company that would assassinate people wholesale. That's all I really remember, desu.

>>24108233
I will never accept this man is based no matter how many women come out saying he did based things. Women can't be trusted.

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>>24112290
Meh. He should have made a menacing video like Kevin Spacey playing one of his characters and threatening to rape again.

>>24109445
Why do you think the RedScare/BAPosphere is defending him?

>Gaiman's family is of Polish-Jewish and other Ashkenazi origins.[6] His great-grandfather emigrated to England from Antwerp before 1914[7] and his grandfather settled in Portsmouth and established a chain of grocery stores, changing the family name from Chaiman to Gaiman.[8] His father, David Bernard Gaiman, worked in the same chain of stores;[9] his mother, Sheila Gaiman (née Goldman), was a pharmacist. Neil has two younger sisters, Claire and Lizzy.[10]

>>24112987
red scare/baposphere (lmao) are children with oppositional defiant disorder who oppose anything they think """"liberals"""" support. this makes them say and do retarded things, like defend a man who raped a woman in front of her child

>>24108233
Has this been proven or are they just wild allegiations?

>I did not make my babysitter into my piss slave. I only half-remember that happening but I'm pretty sure we both drank my piss
what's this nigga trying to say saying he only half-recognizes some of the accusation. fuck off

>>24112999
Liberals are the ones defending him since they’re his audience. People who don’t care about his slop are the ones maligning him

>>24113130
There's corroboration of time and place by banking, third party records, and NDA deeds; partial confessions from Gaiman that sexual relations took place. The only part of some doubt is the lurid sex acts described by the babysitter. Whilst consistent with his "master/slave" bdsm cringe that the other women have spoken about (indicating a ritualised pattern of behaviour), none of the other women have alleged the same degree of sexual violence, anal fixation, piss and shit and vomit eating, etc., that the babysitter has, making her accusations distinct. Perhaps that's simply out of good taste and a desire not to be known as a bum bandit who drunk piss and other pornographic iconographies, but as it stands she is alone is alleging the extreme deviant acts beyond "call me master, good girl" babble.

>>24112338
She's not suing. And it happened in New Zealand, where there's no casino style payouts from a civil judgement: the US is not the world. The reason no one will take his side is that BDSM is cringe and indefensible, and that part is consistent and admitted (in the general).

>>24113611
And how do we know she's not simply mental?

>>24113649
We know she's mental, the question people care about is the butter lube being something they're into or not

>>24113649
She is mental. She was institutionalised in a psychiatric hospital as a child for anorexia. Also a cutter. Gaimen has (according to the earlier reports) admitted to a sexual relationship with her limited to digital penetration (although not to which orifice exactly), and that he engages in consensual BDSM. There is whatsapp correspondence with various parties contemporaneous to the events. That she was the babysitter and was paid to sign an NDA is not questioned.

Undoubtedly it is the sexual luridness of the Vulture magazine reporting that has cut through where the earlier podcasts five months ago did not.

>>24113751
So basically Gaiman not only stuck his dick in a crazy, he made her eat her own shit off of said dick in front of his small son, and didn't expect there to be problems.

I sometimes wonder how people can be so stupid. Is this what wanton hedonism does to a mf?

>>24112290
He should sue if it's all made up

>>24113858
And go through discovery and character evidence? Lol.

>>24108245
Snoke and Mirrors IS pretty fun.
Chivalry was cute.

>>24108258
Personally, I enjoy how he applies the stuff he steals from fairy tales and mythology.

>>24108280
Where does Grant Morrison fall in this spectrum?

>>24113991
Grant Morrison is pretty open about his sexual deviancy. He idolises Burroughs and even put his self-inserts through the 120 days of Sodom iirc in The Invisibles. He doesn't pretend to be against sexual violence, so he's not as bad as those wolves in sheep clothing Moore and Faggotman.

>>24113858
american libels laws are really stringent on the plaintiff, even if it was just slander there's no guarantee he would win and it would keep the story in the news for months

Why does everyone still believe sexual assault/abuse accusations against celebrities when there have been so many recent cases of them being provably false, sometimes in court cases with juries that almost certainly WANTED to convict the celebrity in question but the evidence was too stacked in their favor (e.g., Kevin Spacey)?

>>24114135
I do believe there is exaggerations in the accusations, however it is pretty clear that Gaiman is into bdsm, is pretty clear that he abuse his power and is pretty clear that he did inmoral shit at some point, it may not land him in jail but that's enough to destroy his fanbase forever

Almost 3/4 of his fans were woman who suffered sexual violence, he was very outspoken about his feminist views and he carefully curate his fanbase to be that exactly demographic.

He made his bed, now the time to laid on it has come

>>24108233
hm, there is no safe word would make for a great book title

>>24114234
That's true. Of course, the real crime is that women continue to fall for the Male Feminist shtick despite the fact that said men radiate sexual sadism

>>24114120
The primary women is a New Zealander, where it's very easy to prove defamation. The allegations were first raised in the English media, again where it is very easy to win defamation cases.

>>24114135
Genre fiction authors are inherently disreputable. The crimes they commit against literature are ipso facto proof of a depraved mind.

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>>24108258
>I must rooooooooooooead
kys

>>24111537
Critical mistake, you never address the allegations.

>>24111620
As far as I understand, he's a weird sex pervert who has had sex with a bunch of women over the years, and some of them dislike the crazy things they did.

>>24111537
>I went back to read the messages I exchanged with the women around and following the occasions that have subsequently been reported as being abusive. These messages read now as they did when I received them – of two people enjoying entirely consensual sexual relationships and wanting to see one another again.

Why the fuck would you claim these messages exist if you aren't going to share them witht he public? It's just gonna read as a blatant lie to everyone with a brain.

I assume his entire PR team quit or something, because no one who had any sort of outside help would post something like this.

>>24113649
She most likely is mental and one big issue is to what extent he took advantage of that for him pressing her to do fucked up sex acts.

>>24114234
Basically this. Whether he did anything wrong or not, now he's reaping what he sowed.

>>24114577
The messages are in the Vulture/NY Mag article

>>24114624
Oh. Do they come across the way he says they did?

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>>24112290
I dont know, says here >>24109445 that I should blindly trust the women on this.

>reddit are in shambles
You love to see it

>>24114920
It's Joss Whedon all over again. Reddit just can't get its head around the fact that being cringe, pathetic, and infantile doesn't make a person incapable of engaging in criminality and violence.

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What I can't get over is how in-character it all feels for ol' Gayman. The "call me master" bit, the thing with the butter, the scatological elements of certain affairs. It's degenerate, but it's degenerate in such a twee and precious way. It's exactly like you'd expect from Gaiman given what he writes. He really wasn't hiding anything, honestly.

>>24114937
He's legitimately just a more effeminate, pathetic version of the Marquis de Sade. It's hilarious.

>>24109445
>male feminist
>sexually preys on vulnerable women
Name a more iconic duo

>>24108322
For me it's killing both of them on a twitch.tv livestream and monetizing it.

>>24114937
The genre-fictionicaiton of sex.

>>24114626
He maneuvers her to say it was all consensual in a direct message, then arranges for her to give evidence to an allied therapist he pays for under the guise of therapy. Best to read the article, but Gaimen does well to create reasonable doubt for any criminal trial.

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>>24112979
kek
underrated

never read a book by the cuck; never will. dont know why you guys read jew slop written for teenage girls.

>>24116795
>jew slop written for teenage girls.
I was once a teenage girl. Shocking, I know
T. Tranny

He blamed his autism.

>>24108233
>liberalcuck eating themselves again
Still pretty funny even if it wasn't true

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>>24108233
>man who writes about rape and sadism is a rapist and sadist.

>>24116837
>not t.ranny
Missed opportunity

>>24113156
Literally nobody is defending him now except chudcels who hate women and think he's "based" for abusing them

>>24108233
These payout chasing roasties are the ones who deserve fiction awards.