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mortality edition

ASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_Page
Blog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/
Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/
So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/
Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/
SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdy
General search: http://searcherr.work/
TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chapters

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Tick Tock, Fatman.
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how tf did this fat fuck outlive Lynch
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>>24116029
he's younger than lynch
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>>24116029
found out from you, now i'm crying wtf
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>>24116029
>>24116033
He's like three times his weight too. George to his credit does seem energetic for someone who is both fat and old.
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>>24116036
>both fat and old.
Just old.
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>>24116041
Gurm will always be spiritually fat
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Has ASOIAF ever had a good illustrator?
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>>24116047
>summer isles over niger
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>>24116041
Why don’t Americans like to wear properly fitted clothes. George could’ve stopped in Savile Row, ordered 20 suits, and been set forever.
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>>24116047
Planetos is much bigger than earth
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>>24116064
Sebastian Giacobino
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>>24116029
David Lynch? Good. I rather have GRRM alive than this Lynch. Weird ass creepy movies
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>>24116110
>Weird ass creepy movies
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who's David Lunch anyway?
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>>24116120
You know :P

Winkies
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>>24116122
A man who got lynched to death.
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What is your favourite Carl Drogo moment?
Mine is when he lowers Danny Alice on his penis in front of the whole Carl Ass Harr
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>>24116097
Yeah, so the fat man says, which would mean that his planet has a lot more water than ours. Essos is too thin.
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david lunch lol
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IVE ABANDONED MY CHIIIIILD
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>"Sam the Slayer!" he said, by way of greeting. "Are you sure you stabbed an Other, and not some child's snow knight?"
>child's snow knight
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>>24115978
>all hands on deck for George to get sad and not write for the rest of the month
Not to worry. I’m sure that was the plan anyway.
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GRRM doesn't strike me as a Lynch fan he seems to prefer more straightforward films and not arthouse slop
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It’s hitting me that 76 is starting to get into “you could drop dead any minute without prior warning” territory.
All my grandparents are either in their early 90s or 80s and still pretty sprightly (except the one that died in his 60s from lung cancer) so I’ve never really had to internalize that.
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This fat fuck has 2 books left to end ASOIF and can't even be assed to finish one.
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>>24116242
>It’s hitting me that 76 is starting to get into “you could drop dead any minute without prior warning” territory.
No, people who are gonna drop dead usually do it in their 40s or 50s, like Elvis. People who reach their 70s are survivors who usually go out with a slow decline
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>>24116247
um actually he's finished 5
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>>24116248
What happened to Lynch then? Healthiest-looking 78 year old I’ve ever seen.
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>>24116258
He was housebound and living with emphysema for years
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>>24116260
if gurm was housebond with emphysema do you think he'd write the book about the winds of the winter?
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>>24116267
Well, apparently his best period for writing TWOW was in 2020 when covid made him housebound
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>>24116275
I think GRRM would probably be in a 'misery' scenario to finish winds and spring
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>>24116368
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>>24116095
at no point in his life has this man cared about looking good or styling himself properly, he's now old and incredibly wealthy so there's even less of a reason to care
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>>24116237
You eat slop for breakfast, lunch and diner, you slop eating golem.
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Gurm is going to outlive Togashi. All we know mangaka die earlier and Togashi with his back pain cancer ain’t going to last. Gurm Wurm is going to die at the age of 100.

There is nothing any of you can do about it
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>>24116426
Lynch was babby's first arthouse director, get over it
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Do you think Gurm despises himself or his fans more? He's progressively going more and more ''yeah yeah I know, the book is not ready, fuck off'' and then goes on to talk about some irrelevant film festival or something.
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>>24116448
Okidokie.
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>>24116484
>He's progressively going more and more ''yeah yeah I know, the book is not ready, fuck off''
That's what he did in the 2010s, now he just seems too ashamed to talk about it
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>>24116258
He looked extremely frail over the past few years
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>>24116484
>>24116489
Back then he used to give estimates, but he stopped since they were all way too optimistic. I honestly wish the publishers pressed him now instead of with ADWD. We basically just lost the conclusion to that book which has been in the early winds limbo ever since. Probably captive to whatever is keeping George from finishing it, much later in the plot.
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>>24116484
Gurm's attitude has change since he visited Tolkien's grave during his Worldcon trip last year. He's getting increasingly worried about his legacy now. Moreover the fact that he won't have one if he doesn't finish.
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>>24116484
Neither he is just an out of touch boomer. Its been 15 years and he's tired and knows there's nothing more than he can say.
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worthless bum
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Every heroine in this godforsaken series is used goods.
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>>24116711
Sansa isn't a heroine, she's a damsel in distress.
Arya and Brienne are heroines and they aren't "used goods".
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George, I’m done asking nicely.
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>>24116711
Remind me please, did Dany bed the Ghiscari mutt?
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>>24116723
Oh, Arya is pretty damaged in the head alright.
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>>24116723
>damsel in distress.
She is set to kill Littlefinger thoughbeit.

>I dreamt of a maid at a feast with purple serpents in her hair, venom dripping from their fangs. And later I dreamt that maid again, slaying a savage giant in a castle built of snow."
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>>24116036
Lynch smoked since he was a child
>>24116484
He doesn’t realise that book fans dont give a fuck about screen slop, I don’t know why
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>>24116784
She fucks Daario who doesn't wear any smallclothes so she probably has a yeast infection.
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>>24116047
so dragon originated from india subcontinent
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>>24116097
>Planetos is much bigger than earth

No it isn't.

>>24116156
>Yeah, so the fat man says

Gurm knows less about science then he does about history.

>>24116972
>so dragon originated from india subcontinent

Greece and Egypt.
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>She was sopping wet when he entered her. "Damn you," she said. "Damn you damn you damn you." He sucked her nipples till she cried out half in pain and half in pleasure. Her cunt became the world.
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>>24116723
sansa is the most used of used goods
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>>24117236
that's dany
>carl drogo
>daario
>hizdahr
or cersei
>robert
>jaime
>lancel
>kettlebacks
>moonboy
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>>24117265
>moonboy
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>>24116784
>Remind me please, did Dany bed the Ghiscari mutt?

No. The night before her wedding, Daario fucks her in every hole and while she does marry Hizdahr, she flys off on Drogon before the honeymoon.
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>>24117171
>Her cunt became the world.
unironically goes hard
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>>24116751
>He never show up early for work but he first in break room when there food.
>People ask me why George Martin no finish he book I tell them: he too busy eat.
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>>24117236
Sansa doesn't have sex with anyone.
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>>24117338
What's this about then?

>Her noble husband was soon fast asleep. Daenerys could only twist and turn beside him. She wanted to shake him, wake him, make him hold her, kiss her, fuck her again, but even if he did, he would fall back to sleep again afterward, leaving her alone in the darkness. She wondered what Daario was doing.
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>>24116484
Fans. He decided not to ever write the book when the show burned out, and he’s mad that people keep believing the lie and asking instead of reading his mind.
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>>24117338
>>24117412
I’m glad I somehow blocked out all the sex in the books
It can’t be done well and is just unpleasant and nasty
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>>24117322
could be for all I know!
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Why does Carl Drogo's hair smell of semen? Horses I understand, but who's cumming in Carl Drogo's hair? And Why?
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>>24115993
Gurrm is a terrible gardener
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>>24117398
but enough about you
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>>24115993
Time to spam me work of FATfiction

https://pdfupload.io/docs/d1fdf8e3
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>>24117442
Futa Dany. The dragon has 3 heads. It is known.
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>>24117427
George's sex scenes are pretty good, yes even the ones with funny phrases in them, it's all intentional and written in the way there characters are interpreting the events.
People just have a bunch of hang ups about sex that has nothing to do with the quality of writing it, and more to do with whatever "trauma" they've received in their own lives. That and people don't like that a gross fat old stinky nerd got them horny. I only ever see people complaining about sex from male writers and never women writers.
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>>24117442
Probably implying that they use horse cum as a styling product.
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>>24117477
How is the semen extracted? Do they have some kind of device or do they do it by hand?
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>>24117459
looks like someone is jealous of George, the jungle pussy slayer.
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>>24117493
Every day Drogo jerks off a horse to get his gel. He gets styled hair and the horse is happy, two birds.
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>>24116711
Except for Arya, Sansa and Brienne. And honestly Jaime, Dany and Jon a-okay in my book, they only ever fuck their SOs
>>24117412
He didn't give a single fuck about her, literally. Unless gurm was implying he was a fag, this is one of the most unbelievable parts in the entire series.
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>>24117509
>this is one of the most unbelievable parts in the entire series.
not really, they married for political purposes, she might not actually be his type. You'll go through life meeting plenty of obviously beautiful women that do nothing for you sexually
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>>24117477
>>24117497
I thinks it's some sort of exercise, you have to be really strong and have great endurance to make your stallion cun
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>>24117427
>>24117476
I really don't like his sex scenes, because they read like teen fanfics on Tumblr. Even of the quality of the text is good, it's still super cringeworthy every time.
I have no trauma, nor does text make me horny, but I guess I am a little prudish. I think his sex scenes would be immensely improved of he only wrote the leadup and then the aftermath, instead of the act itself.
As for sex scenes by female authors, i haven't ready one yet, so I can't say of I'd like it or not, but im guessing i wouldn't for the same reasons.
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>>24117509
>He didn't give a single fuck about her, literally. Unless gurm was implying he was a fag, this is one of the most unbelievable parts in the entire series.
Dude was fucking highly trained slave pussy his entire life.
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>>24117524
>I think his sex scenes would be immensely improved of he only wrote the leadup and then the aftermath, instead of the act itself.
George and a few other writers do exactly that and people still shit on them, and often too. I've argued with people thinking a full sex scene was described and when the text is literally a fade to black scene. People just are not at all comfortable with sex for reasons I honestly can't fathom. I say trauma because even if you haven't suffered any sexual abuse, someone, or your immediate surroundings taught you that sex is uncomfortable, or forbidden, or dirty, or holy, or sacred or whatever. Instead of it just being a matter of fact thing of life. You're at least aware and honest enough to admit that you're prudish which is fine and way better than the people who claim that the sex scenes add nothing or are just completely terrible when they aren't.
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>book contains descriptions of people being flayed alive and eating their own fingers
>but oh no, it's the penis entering a vagina that's too disturbing
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Is it a stretch to say that Samwell is only still fat because the author struggled with obesity throughout his life? I could see how it could seem like an insurmountable obstacle.
But forced marches and military rations would slim Sam down in no time. Not to mention the fact that Randyll would absolutely have had a servant make sure Sam isn't overeating at Horn hill.
Maybe if GURM actually fought in Vietnam he would've slimmed down to size. Samwell will definitely invent ozempic at the citadel though.
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Does Gilly have a fat man fetish?
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>>24117552
A lot of what goes into complaining about these books is pure memes.
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>>24117595
Maybe, but she definitely likes to say daddy during sex.
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>>24117668
oh, you
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>perform magic ritual
>it does nothing
>friend performs magic ritual
>it does something
>he has no special blood at all
>it doesn’t work again

Why is magic such a choosey asshole?
Is it literally a living thing?
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>>24117731
who and what ritual are you referring to?
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>>24117776
Countless maesters attempting to light a glass candle as a part of their initiation.
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>>24117595
Sam is going to discover ozempic in winds of winter.
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>>24117592
He's still a noble, Sam was pampered by his mom, sisters and servants, and when his little brother was born his father let him be. And his fellow watchmen figured out that he was absolutely useless in training, Jon convinced them to go easy on Sam. The Night's Watch isn't a true military imo, and they don't seem to march or run, just train in being competent enough to use their weapons and follow orders.
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>>24117592
The Watch still affords him to eat relatively well and do nothing but sit around, however between everything that's happened at sea and now the citadel, Sam should absolutely lose some weight. So you may be right. Maybe the reason Winds took so long is because the fat man postponed Sam's POV until he himself could lose some weight and know what is like.
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>>24116800
kek this guy doesn't recites a list of people he wants to murder to himself before bed each night
ngmi anon
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>>24117422
So, just like a woman? I thought Gurm was high test, the perv old bastard.
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Tired of you.
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>>24118047
>The Night's Watch isn't a true military
In its current state yeah because Aegon's conquest neutered it. But it was legit in its heyday when it had like 10,000 knights and former kings.
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>>24118360
Shouldn't it be the opposite since it went from a northern institution to a westeros-wide one?
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>>24118360
>>24118419
this made me think. are we given a reason why lords no longer send their criminals to the watch? why are the nw's numbers the lowest it's ever been?
I recall no one taking them seriously anymore, but why does that stop them from just sending up their criminals to freeze instead of chopping their heads off?
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what is glass candle?
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>>24116029
Lynch was a chronic smoker.
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>>24117731
Direct consequence of magic "returning" to the world
>>24118419
>>24118431
Aegon's conquest didn't kill the Watch, prosperity did (and arguably the receding of magic)
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>>24118443
sssnnnniiiifffff
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>>24117731
George is a vril pilled neo nazi who believes in aryan blood supremacy
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>>24118443
plot device to show when magic is present to those too slow to realise from literal dragons, ice zombies, shadow babies and resurrections
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>>24118478
this doesn't answer >>24118431, not sure why you tagged it
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Prime Night’s Watch being 10,000 men strong is so retarded and overkill when you remember that a Night’s Watch on death’s door is able to repulse Mance Rayder (who literally mounted a coalition of every freefolk faction there is).

The ratios were probably 1 Night’s Watch member for every man, woman, child, living north of the wall. Makes no sense they needed to man 19 castles when they’re getting on more or less with just the 3.
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>>24118478
>”returning”
So it went on vacation? Definitely a living thing.
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>>24118573
The numbers are exaggerated due to myth.
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Arya hates the Lannisters with a burning
Passion but does she hates the Westermen as well? Would she burn Westerlands along with it’s peasants to the ground?
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>>24118584
just dissipated like a fart
but now the wind blew it back
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Margaery Tyrell is a groomer
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>>24118419
It was always westeros wide. The shieldhall had every sigil under the sun hanging from its walls. Da norf was just its biggest sponsor because they had a vested interest in keeping it strong enough so its able to adequately protect their border.
>>24118431
Criminals are still sent to the wall. One of the trio the others ambush in the prologue was a poacher sentenced there by House Mallister. But sending the dregs of society isn't why it was strong in the past. It got a steady flow of knights and nobility since pre unification westeros was so wartorn and if you lost you had to choose between death or taking the black. Remember, in just one day Nymeria sent 6 kings to the wall.
>>24118573
10,000 is what they were during Aegon's conquest and the world book mentions by then they were long in decline. Meaning they were many times that number at the height of their strength. Also, Mance's army was ragged and desperate after being constantly hounded and bled by the Others and their tactics seemed basic as fuck. When you read history the wildling incursions made by Raymund Redbeard, Gender + Gorne and the horned lord seem way more dangerous and generally required the NW and Winterfell working together to throw off.
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>>24118734
>It was always westeros wide. The shieldhall had every sigil under the sun hanging from its walls. Da norf was just its biggest sponsor because they had a vested interest in keeping it strong enough so its able to adequately protect their border.
Why did the other kingdoms care to send men all the way up there? I think Others-Denialism is probably the default ever sinve the long night fell from memory. Just doesn't make sense to send so many men to fight wildlings (who are primitive and pose no threat to anyone except maybe the Umbers)
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>>24118734
>10,000 is what they were during Aegon's conquest and the world book mentions by then they were long in decline.
Which is ludicrous since that's half of Robb's forces in TWot5K
>Also, Mance's army was ragged and desperate after being constantly hounded and bled by the Others and their tactics seemed basic as fuck. When you read history the wildling incursions made by Raymund Redbeard, Gender + Gorne and the horned lord seem way more dangerous and generally required the NW and Winterfell working together to throw off.
At the end of the day, they're basically eskimos with shitty bronze weaponry. The 'true north' cannot support a substantial population. Greenland has like fifty thousand people in the 21st century. 10k nightswatchmen is overkill by any measure. Planetos seems to be in total technological stasis, so presumably all those knights would have their fancy plate armor with them. Shitty bronze axeheads can't do anything to steel plate.
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>>24118710
Magic isn’t a fart. And if it was, it would smell like blood and roses.
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>>24116972
yes saaar dragon very strong and brahmic
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>>24119125
maisie is so much hotter than sophie it's unreal
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do you think Danny Alice will have sex with John Snowden like in the show?
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>>24119188
Jon's frozen cock is reserved for pure Sansussy.
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>Shitty bronze axeheads can't do anything to steel plate.
But a giant's maul can.
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>>24119188
Jon's R'hllor blessed cock is reserved for pure Valsussy
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>>24118856
>At the end of the day, they're basically eskimos with shitty bronze weaponry.

Worse then that, the vast majority of Wildings are stone age cavemen.

>The 'true north' cannot support a substantial population.

True, most appear to be hunter-gatherers with American Indian-tier gardening at best.
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>>24119229
Cute Giant
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Le Rivermen’s suffering XD
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>>24119190
I want the fat man to finish the books so that I can rub the Jon and Sansa romance in their faces.
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>>24119782
At this point I'd rather transfer Fatman's life force to Togashi so he could finish current arc and maybe draw some more



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