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"Next Generation" edition

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/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQ
RESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvC

Please limit excerpts to one post.
Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.
Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.
If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.
Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.
(And maybe double-space your WIPs to allow edits if you want 'em.)

Simple guides on writing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHdzv1NfZRM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whPnobbck9s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAKcbvioxFk

Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZowTbT6hy3k
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The waves slowly creep upon the shore, depositing their salt. I seek to chase after them but they continually slip away from my fingers. Why do they flee? I know not. I care not. I shall set my sail against your withdrawing advances until you yield your treasures. With a ravenous tooth shall I pursue you.
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thoughbeit may, one dothly ponders, methinks...
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>>24848668
perchance mayhaps.... a cheers to that old chap...
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>>24848667
That's pretty gay, dude.
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i've come to genuinely appreciate the wildeian approach of writing a dialogue between characters in order to present an argument/opinion/philosophy.
in another format, like being personal, the shit i'm currently writing would come across as incredibly preachy and self absorbed. like i'm lecturing someone who doesn't care. self help type shit. i'm better than you type shit.
framing in presentation is insanely important.
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>>24848679
you're pretty low iq
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>>24848680
duh. the only reason to write is so people pay you to say shit you'd get punched for saying to them in a normal conversation.
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>>24848680
>type shit
>type shit
Are you a nigger? If so, a pseudoanonymous website is one of the few opportunities that you have to not be thought of as one and you've spoiled it. If not, then why would you choose to emulate an ignorant pidgin of English in a thread dedicated to writing on a board dedicated to literature? There's no excuse for this kind of behavior.
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>>24848700
>>24848705
ok what the heck are you guys attempting to even contribute here
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>>24848720
fr fr?
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unc is tweaking again
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Fine fine, I'll post the first two pages of my slop.
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>>24848720
i thought i was agreeing with you...
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>>24848742
didn't you finish this book ages ago?
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>>24848720
Nigger diction interdiction.
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>>24848744
sorry bro i don't agree that the only reason to write is to be payed for saying shit people would take violence to you for in person.
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>>24848745
yes. i can still post it though
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>>24848752
>i'm currently writing incredibly preachy and self absorbed i'm better than you type shit.
>sorry bro i don't write shit people would take violence to you for in person.
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>>24848763
i can post the piece if you want but it's rather rough right now
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>>24848765
if you want. i'm not entirely sure i need to be preached to at the moment, but i'll give it a fair shake
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>>24848777
https://sharetext.io/01617de2
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>>24848753
how many sales have you made? the sample is good.
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>>24848779
>nigga
>nigga
>nigga
>nigga
>nigga
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>>24848779
its good for the scene of overly-educated preachy friend giving a spiel to someone who will listen. might need to be trimmed down in a final edit though.
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>>24848782
18 copies. And most of it was free. I think my cover, blurb, and severe lack of advertising killed it. Marketing is hard.
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>>24848815
let's see the cover
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>>24848742
Very brave to frontload your story with a ton of words you made up by sticking "mana-" in front of nouns
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>>24848779
illegible schizobabble
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>>24848742
i'll suggest a few minor edits

>black-star
i wouldn't hyphenate here, because it looks weird. either make it one word (blackstar) or two separate words.

>and evidence, for her to...
i would drop that comma

>said suspect. The suspect...
i would use "He" instead of repeating suspect there

>and on her merry way back home
i would simplify it to "on her way home"

likewise that sentence after Pine Cantonment can be simplified: "she filed her report and went back to her chair." or something like that. does "appropriate designation" matter? "chair" by itself may be too plain but "big comfortable chair" doesn't sound good either. maybe there's a more specific term you can find for what it is.
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>>24848779
Bix nood, indeed!
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>>24848832
I based it on common everyday items we have in our world and our naming conventions.
Instead of vehicle, we call it electric vehicle. instead of "spread", we call it a butter-knife, instead of glowing filament glass holder, we call it a "lightbulb".

But yes you're not the first to criticize the use of "mana". A reader wanted Sanderson esque names like "sky eels". But I thought it felt more realistic to a world to attach a prefix instead of taking two unrelated items and creating a new "object ".

>>24848836
blackstar - I think this one grammarly said to hyphenate. I forgot the reason but I didn't really bother mulling over it
>Repeat use of suspect
Fair, but I would change "him" to suspect. She's a cop and can't confirm anything yet, so it's her thought process. The "him" was the mistake.

I was thinking "lounger", but big comfortable chair felt more childish and part of the MCs mentality at this point. Nonetheless, the suggestions are noted and I did make a few changes, but I don't think I'll upload the second edition anytime soon. I am working on a second edition to my Chinaman story, which sorely needs it.
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>>24848883
I can understand writing a world with one or two "mana-" things but you took it a little too far
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>>24848779
This is a joke right? We're being punk'd right?
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>>24848688
Why is this phenotype so common in America?
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>>24848883
Compound words
>A large market
>Supermarket
>Box that holds mail
>Mailbox
So a conduit that uses mana, a mana conduit
A bus that uses mana a manabus , no need to call it anything else. A bus that uses electricity, an electric bus, diesel bus, natural gas bus. At least that was the thinking behind the words.
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>>24848883
>it felt more realistic to a world
Nigger, your writing fantasy not a documental, throw "muh realism" away and choose what sounds better
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>>24848902
Mmm how about mananduit? To make it slightly dumber.
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>>24848890
Fair enough. The setting in the story is about mana taking over a medival world, and transforming it, like the oil to the industrial revolution.

So the characters are navigating this new technology introduced by the villain. And like oil, all the environmental issues come with it. Nothing preachy, but it's hinted at the tech is causing monsters and new tech makes new monsters, etc.

If anything I should have worked in the setting better, but I am a shit writer that didn't world build enough
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>>24848912
Nta but that sounds dumber. WTF is a manaduit? I know what a conduit is, I know what mana is. The word defines itself.
>>24848910
It makes for way easier reading than throwing in a bunch of made up words without context. Nobody wants to read a paragraph about "cediyr", and the author is talking about a shoe.
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>>24848910
Your English is almost as bad as your take here
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>>24848910
>documental
buenos dias, amigo
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stop being mean.
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>/wng/ leaves the thread
>immediately dies
CURIOUS!
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>>24848998
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>>24848998
it really is a night and day difference
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Thinking of blowing a little cash on a 4chan ad for my KDP ebook. I'll target /lit/, but what other boards might be enticed by a slightly surreal, sapphic dark romance? I can only think of /u/ and maybe /x/.
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>>24849042
>Thinking on wasting money on 4chan
Read >>24848382
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>>24849042
Good idea. Makes the web experience better for us all when the retards publicly announce themselves, so they're easier ignored
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>>24849158
>anyone smart enough to enjoy a good book is also smart enough to have an adblocker enabled and impossible to market directly to
Hell of a catch-22, that.
>>24849177
I'm fine with making myself easy to ignore. The whole idea is you're not supposed to want to ignore me. When I speak softly, you should lean in. When I talk slowly, you should hang on every syllable. I should have but to raise my finger to hush you into silence.
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>just need to finish writing
>finish writing
>yeah i'm not putting this out
why does this happen
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>>24848654
>Frank
Is that his name? I looked up online but coundn't find his (first) full name mentioned anywhere
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Hi, native spanish speaker here.
Can you guys explain to me, in other words, why the correct answer is C instead of A?
A "sounds" right to me
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>>24849303
Same thing with this one.
He took all the money "sounds" right but it isn't. Why?
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>>24849305
>>24849303
And in both cases, does earlier means "not too long ago"?
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>>24849303
>>24849305
Your question would fit in much better on >>>/int/216373626
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>>24849303
>Present time
>Anon is looking at Clara. Anon is thinking:
>I realize now that Clara **has not** changed much since the last time I saw her.
Do you understand why I used *has not* and not *is not* ?
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>>24849234
cus ur chasing quantification and ends instead of engaging in a genuinely meaningful process. there's nothing wrong or inadequate with an unfinished story bro.
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>finished a story
>mounting regrets
Does it get any easier?
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>>24849440
Nope
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>>24849230
No one cares about your self-indulgent fantasy
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>>24849305
it sounds natural to you because in casual speech people will say that, but it's not formally correct. the point is that the taking happened before the admitting. so
>he admitS that he took it
would be correct. he "admits" now that he "took" in the past. but if you move the whole sentence into the past it becomes
>he admittED that he HAD TAKEN it
"admitting" moves from now to the past, and "taking" moves from the past to an even earlier past. that's what the "had [done]" form indicates here, an even earlier past than the other action.
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Any advice on how to write conversations concerning morals without just having two characters talk one after the other?
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>https://blog.google/technology/google-labs/pomelli/

which one of u will be first to spam us with this ish?
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>>24849909
you, apparently
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My ADHD means I'm slower to develop ideas. There are stories I'm just figuring out after having them cook for a year. Should I develop more at once to make up for this deficit?
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>>24849449
What a relief, the one I had felt embarrassingly deus ex machina ish because I didn't explain the twist as well as I could have.
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>>24849817
Either make them argue, or make one character teaching the other one.
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>>24849941
You can develop more by reading, yeah. Outline/skeleton draft and see where it goes but I'd say reading is more beneficial.
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>>24849277
we are not carrying that discussion over into this thread. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
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>>24849303
>>24849305
It is no different in Spanish. This is the pluperfect vs preterite. In reality, they are both correct (at least colloquially) in isolation, but depending on the context pluperfect is going to be more correct. Some (hack) writing coaches advise against using pluperfect at all.

But to your question about why C is correct, the answer lies with the fact that you saw Clara (past) and the change happened before you saw her (hence pluperfect).

Same thing in question 6, "He admitted" means this happened in the past and his action of taking money happened even further in the past (pluperfect).

It is no different in Spanish, but there it's called pretérito pluscuamperfecto.
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>>24849453
You're projecting, anon
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>>24850147
Yes we

WHAT IS GARDNER'S FIRST NAME?
WHAT IS GARDNER'S FIRST NAME?
I NEED TO KNOW!
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>>24850273
*are
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Do you guys use Vectorpea and Photopea to design your book covers? I've found them to be just as good as the Adobe products. Kind of amazing actually everything you can do just in browser.
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>>24850475
i used to hate web app shit, but now that i have a real job with a locked down work laptop where i can't install photoshop and it's not a mac so can't use pixelmator, i've realized the appeal of just opening your browser and using some shit. i get that they have to lock down work computers or normies will install a horror show of malware but it's like i actually need photoshop for this project tho. pain point alleviated, thank you entrepreneurs.
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>>24848815
Your other books at least got some reviews. This one might be too long for what it is (directed at 15-18). Have you thought about cutting it down? I think a lot of your first chapt can be removed. The backstory slows things down and you are probably better off just sticking to the hunt for a while.
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>>24850501
the youths are spoiled by choices. in my day we had to resort to cracks and keygens
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Are villian protagonists viable?

In my opinion, villians almost always make poor protagonists... they're just one dimensionally evil and have no morality or struggles. How can you make a protagonist exciting and interesting if they are just boring like villians?
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>>24848643
What rhetoric and tactics would earth women use to protest something like picrel?

I was thinking
>They would call earth men who date alien women losers, small-dicked, say they wouldn't want to date a guy like him anyway
>They would praise men who date earth women as good guys
>They'd spout extremely racist shit about alien women and laugh at any negative dating experience a man has with aliens

I wanted the more liberal political party to support working with the alien women, while the more conservative political party wants to restrict it. Would women suddenly flip and become conservative to protect access to partners?
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>>24850582
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>>24850582
Just because a villain has no moral struggle does not mean he faces no struggles at all. Usually the villain occupies the antagonist role in a story so he is presented as powerful and usually in control of some large organization. The heroic protagonist's struggle is in large part due to the evil antagonist being so powerful while he has little or no power at all, except what he can muster up from personal courage and inspiring others. But if you reverse the situation, you can have the villain as an underdog attempting to bring about an evil plot, but is continuously set back by the efforts of do-gooders and meddling moral authorities who stand in his way.

Underdog stories have an inherent appeal to them. People like seeing the smaller, weaker party triumph against the larger one who seems inevitable to succeed. David and Goliath being a primordial example of it, but there are endless others. Make the villain an underdog. Make his evil plan very unlikely to succeed. Make him suffer setbacks, have him seemingly lose everything once or twice, only to miraculously find a way forward. All the usual storybeats that typically accompany an underdog hero. Except his plan is to nuke the earth or whatever.
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>>24850582
>>24850593
I won't read a book with an evil protagonist. Throughout all of history, protagonists tend to be good people for a reason.
Enjoy your twisted fantasy where you get to vent your sociopathic urges vicariously, I guess, but I hate that shit and most of society does as well. WILL NOT READ!
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>>24850654
nta but have you read Les Mis? Javert is a compelling villain who you could argue is the protagonist of sorts.
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>>24850629
>Primordial Entity Tier
Villain who is so convincing in his reasoning that it redefines your morality.
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>>24850629
Great tier is garbage.
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>>24850742
Agree, it's mid tier at most.
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Writing is funny because not only does no one want to hear about your book, but also deep down you know you're better off not talking about it at all. Know what I mean? It's a particular kind of extended meditation.
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>>24850791
How is it that certain people, e.g. j k rowling, can take their ideas, though, and throw them at a publisher with vigour. Instead of sitting on them and cringing at them with secrecy.
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>>24850810
low shame/self awareness
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>>24850813
Honestly yeah kek. I still give them credit though. She had to put in the effort to finish the Potter series with global hype that was off the scale and unheard of at the time. She did it. I believe the most modern example we currently have is, perhaps, George RR Martin.
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>>24850593
Great Love Immortal Venerable has been called a good person by every character in the story that has a working morality compass. He often barely emotes while the narrative points out he's suppressing everything. GZR himself said in an interview the price for FY's wish wasn't going to be what he expected.

Reverend Insanity is a story about a hero forced into miserable circumstances and becoming so broken down he can only chase after the only seemingly viable solution. That theme comes up not only with the protagonist but with other characters who are said to hail from heroic origins like Thieving Heaven, it's hammered in your face that Gu Society is rotten at its core and needs to be upended if human beings are expected to exist. What might break my heart about that series the most is how many midwits it attracted who don't bother thinking its themes through.
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>>24850791
>>24850810
You need to be somewhat narcissistic to be a writer
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Please give me your thoughts
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>>24850541
I definitely will change it in the second edition. Sprinkle the setting in chapter 3 and 7.
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>>24850860
>Upturned chest
>Chest has a rounded cover
>It somehow balances perfectly on a ship to use as a table
Do think about this.
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>>24850821
Fang Yuan is not a hero. He's a demon. He might have started out as a good person, but he sure as hell isn't anymore by chapter 1. Le 500 years changed him irrevocably.
And yes, the Gu world (aptly named) is what made him this way. But it doesn't change what he is. It doesn't justify his actions. It doesn't mean he isn't a villain.

GZR also said that the last arc will be a world war against Fang Yuan. I think the ending of Reverend Insanity will have Fang Yuan trying to refine everything, including himself, into the eternal life gu. Possibly failing, possibly succeeding. Who knows.

>The traditional preparation of gu poison involved sealing several venomous creatures (e.g., centipede, snake, scorpion) inside a closed container, where they devoured one another and allegedly concentrated their toxins into a single survivor, whose body would be fed upon by larvae until consumed. The last surviving larva held the complex poison.
>whose body would be fed upon by larvae until consumed
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>>24850810
Looking cool feels better than looking dumb feels bad.
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>>24850869
sideways
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>>24850860
>Rosmarinus
Stopped reading right there
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>>24850860
i think it's good enough to publish. not much else to say to be honest.
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>>24850582
He just has to be skillful at what he does and have some charm or intelligence. Dexter was a very popular series with a serial killer as a protag. Patrick Bateman was a serial killer, Humbert from Lolita was a child rapist.
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The end of RI is Fang Yuan ascending to immortality only to realize he's a resource about to be harvested in higher being's immortal aperature
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>>24850869
ackshually not all chests have a rounded cover
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>>24850810
>anon literally cannot comprehend having self-confidence
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Lord of the Mysteries but not for trannies
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>>24850918
Ok, Mr Gu Zhen Ren
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>>24850935
Yeah sure, might as well make a steak without meat or lemonade without lemons while you're at it.
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>>24850882
Why?
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>/wng/ = generate enough text to gain as many readers as possible
>/wg/ = pour blood sweat and tears over writing just to sit on it
Where's the general for writers like me who want to cultivate a small but devoted following of quality readers?
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>>24850935
Go back to your containment thread webnigger, same goes for the other retard spamming his chink story
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>>24850869
How pedantic
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>>24850958
Reverend Insanity mogs all of your garbage. Cope.
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>>24850869
moron
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>>24850953
Stupid name
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>>24850987
it's a moniker, in this case
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>>24850860
Shiver me timbers anon, this is very good! Very cool to explore familiar technology through the lens of people unfamiliar with it. Also, I like pirates.
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>>24850882
>>24850953
I think it's an interesting play on the name Rosemary but yeah I can see it putting off a few readers
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Anyone who says this general only writes garbage is so full of it
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>>24851019
It's trve though.
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>>24851019
>Not knowing this is the crab general
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>>24848643
I’ve seen this picture in the catalog 100 times now and always thought the kid on the left was wearing a hat
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>>24851021
It's not. There have been plenty of well written excerpts so far.
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>>24851030
examples?
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>>24851031
next thread
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>>24850966
>Top still isn't flat
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>>24850860
I love it. Best passage on /wg/ this week at least
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>>24851031
Anon's pirate story excerpt in this very thread (you'd know which one if you actually read posts longer than a paragraph)
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>>24850992
Still sounds stupid though
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>>24851019
Nah, /wng/ is where everyone writes garbage we don't write here
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>>24850860
Try third limited over 3rd omni. I think it'll read better.
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>>24851067
We write here, it's just half of us suffer from crippling self-loathing and refuse to share.
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>>24851070
This is Amadeus "there are too many notes" tier advice
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>>24851070
Tbh it's meant to be limited but I don't pull it off very well
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I need some help with foid psychology here. If a female protagonist does something unbelievably over the top cruel and barbaric like broil rebels in a steam chamber or skin them alive etc., does this make women like them more, or less, or have no effect? I can't bring myself to read female fiction to find out.
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>>24851058
>sperm-oil
When I asked you for examples, I didn't mean that I wanted you to shill your own trash.
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>>24851088
depends on who it's being done to
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>>24851088
I suppose it would depend on the given context. Why does she brutally murder these people?
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>>24851075
not at all. having a story where we're in Rosmarinus's POV allows the reader to fill in a lot of the blanks and reads a lot smooter. No need to go from Leonard's POV looking at the spear, when we canjust have Rosmarinus grab the object.

>The pirate laid the case on the deck and unlocked it with a turn of his key.
>Like a sparrow, Rosmarinus grabbed the object and weighted it in his hand. It was a short spear blah blah blah.
Now we don't need to jump from Leonard's POV to Rosmarinus and can just have the MC describe everything to the reader.
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>>24851089
Just for that, I'm going post my own shit as another example.
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>>24851088
stop writing my Victoria story.
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>>24851092
A lot of words to say "I'm a lazy reader and don't feel like keeping track of everyone in an ensemble piece"
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>>24851089
That was not even me (the guy who posted the excerpt) which you responded. Also, sperm oil is very much a real thing lol. Have you not read Moby Dick?
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>>24851101
This is a blue board, stop talking about your fetish erotica
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>>24851092
Well, Leonard is the POV character in this case and Rosmarinus' actions are being viewed from his prism, which is why throughout the entire chapter there's no mention of the pirate's feelings or thoughts whatsoever.
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>>24851100
>doesn't understand head hopping
c'mon man. I expect more from wannabe writers.
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>>24851108
I bet you're one of those retards who's written "I can't tell who the protagonist is" as a critique
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>>24851108
>This is the /wng/ crowd
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>>24851106
then something feels off. because it reads like we're jumping around POVs even with Leonard's thoughts and feelings.
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>exploding whale oil
what would happen if you tried to cook whale meat then?
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>>24851116
>not thinking that's a valid critique
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>>24851125
It's spermaceti
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the only person you should be taking advice from is your editor
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This is not the moby dick general you dorks
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>>24851134
The lion does not concern himself with an editor
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>>24851134
/wg/ is my editor
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>/wng/ deleted at 400+ posts
it's joever
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>>24851141
Why are they pruned so heavily
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>>24851088
foids are social consensus pleasers. they will tend to react in whatever way doesn't make them stand out from the crowd, so the question is if this act of cruelty had popular support in that society. but even if they're outwardly positive they might resent the protagonist if the act somehow increases her status etc. not legitimate moral outrage, more like "who does she think she is...!"
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>>24851127
Oof
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well that sucks. i didnt get a chance to finish reading either one of the two anons' exerpts. they were both interesting.
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the trannitor can cope and seethe but illegitimate deletions will not be respected
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Seems /wng/ is being forced to merge with /wg/ so you fags better accommodate us by adding RR to the OP or else
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>>24851141
What's really annoying is that it keeps happening when I REALLY don't want to get on IRC and check with a mod wtf is going on.
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1000 hours in photopea later
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>>24851145
RIposters are likely the cause, as each RIpost results in dozens of off-topic (pertaining to WNs) posts
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looks like next /wg/ is going to be a Reverend Insanity edition
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>>24851149
Just look the thread up here
https://warosu.org/lit/
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>>24851158
How can discussion about a webnovel be off topic when pertaining to the discussion of webnovels?
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>>24851158
>the general is partly about writing
>discussions about pros and cons of different types of protagonists are off-topic
yeah, i agree with the jannie. just nuke the fucking thread at that point.
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>>24851162
the RIposters start by randomly saying something about RI that might as well be spam, then anons reply and the RIposters reply; the whole resulting chain is incorrigibly off-topic.

it’s a similar logic to how adding oats to hyperconcentrated sulfuric acid won’t make it any safer to ingest.
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>>24851091
>>24851090
She's a noblewoman from some remote province who fell in love with the Prince of the Empire. Anarchists blew up the prince with a car bomb, so now instead of being the next Empress she's stuck in her hick province forever and nobody wants to marry an almost-empress for fear of insulting the dead prince. She is now in a state of permanent seething over this and for lack of any other way to discharge her rage has turned her resources to finding and horribly killing the people responsible.

These people are not directly responsible, but are part of the same rebel organization.
I'm sure you can guess that eventually our love interest enters the story and helps her process her grief etc etc but this is to establish how destructive her inability to process that grief has become.
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>>24851168
RI is a web novel.
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>>24851163
>pros, cons
the entire argument was both sides, set in their beliefs, zealots of their respective orders, trying to convince the other that their position was ontologically wrong, and that their own was correct.
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>>24851171
RI is a webnovel but RIposter does not discuss RI.
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>>24851171
Unfortunately, it seems that RI is Chinese which makes it tangent to Anime. As such, any mention or discussion seems to result in obliteration, at least according to the actions of the jannies.
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>>24851169
>Anarchists
Literally nobody would care, even the average reader.
I suggest changing them to separatists as you need the readers to at least sympathize with them a little to get your themes across.
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>>24851148
if you seriously think a story where we can go more than 2 pages without knowing who the protagonist is, is good, I don't know what to tell you.
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>>24851172
Thing is, we've far, far worse reply chains and thread-spanning drama without being deleted. This being the fault of small time Rifag infighting is purely guesswork at this point.
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>>24851169
I'm split. You could argue she's justified or she's cruel and unusual. I guess it depends on if you lean more heavily into "she loved him" or "she really wanted to be the queen."
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I'll make another /wng/ tomorrow if nobody else does it first.
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>>24851146
This is very important thank you, that makes sense. Sort of a laugh-track situation, where the audience will derive the acceptability of being okay with this from how the rest of the characters react to it.
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>>24851172
are you a woman? that's what good, hearty debate looks like.
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I wonned.
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>>24851079
anon, I..
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>>24851180
You are absolutely and idiot and have never read anything above a middle school level.
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>>24851190
>You are absolutely and idiot
rumao
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>>24851179
t. fascist
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>>24851179
You're right, I really thought of them more as Republicans, but I figured the aristocracy would just call any challenge to their rule anarchy because it sounds worse.
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>>24851175
>but RIposter does not discuss RI.
What?
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>>24851172
One side was objectively wrong though? Historic, popular, and prestigious works have used protagonists with all kinds of moral systems. To say that villains are poor protagonists is a retarded statement.
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>>24851190
>he thinks headhopping is the same as multiple POVs
oof
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>>24851155
It's obvious though?
Every day this happens fewer and fewer anons will return to /wng/
Janny endgame is clearly to kill /wng/ off
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>>24851200
Stick to the webnovels kiddo.
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>>24851158
>RIposters are likely the cause
The thread got removed after the bumplimit, this is clearly a janny with an insane grudge rather than anything being a "cause"
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>>24851207
Heavenly Court is trying to suppress WNG.
Sad!
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>>24851207
what might’ve invoked the wrath of this janny? the RIposting? the melties?
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I can't come up with a concrete magic system. Something that's unique enough to add some flavor to the story, flexible enough to cover most situations I'd want to write, but defined enough that I can reasonably use it without it feeling like an asspull.

Any ideas?
I was going to read some old alchemy manuscripts but I don't really know latin and I'm lazy.
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>>24851207
Also suspiciously starts happening after new jannies recruitment.
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Man, the webnovel peeps linking back up with us really reminds me that I could not give a shit about RRslop if I tried.
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>>24851216
us cultivators are insanely racist
you best turn back, lower realm peasant
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>>24851214
African witch doctors but it's real and then just change the aesthetics and names to fit your your euro-medieval fantasy setting.
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>>24851214
I am glad you asked. Have you read Reverend Insanity yet? Gu worm system is an excelent magic system.
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>>24851215
Reminds of when /sp/ got an insane new mod once but on a much smaller scale
>>24851214
don't use a magic system lol, they suck.
Or just copy a TTRPG, nobody will notice
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>>24851169
A ruined orgasm Disney Princess scenario. She could get away with the holocaust desu.
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>>24851216
I tried to read Reverend Insanity but I only got 900,000 chapters in, does it get as good as they say after chapter 12,000,000?
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>>24851214
All you really need to do is establish what it can't do, and give some example of things that it can do. You don't need or really want a rigid set of rules or internal systems because that just turns it into an engineering kit and then the story becomes about using that to solve problems.

The most important part of magic is making it feel real, which means lacing it with evokative imagery, rolling some philosophy in, figuring out how people treat it and think of it in the world, how it impacts the culture, etc.
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>>24851221
It unironically is. But I can't just steal it lol. Nor do I want to.
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>>24851207
/wng/ poster here. We had a serious discussion regarding hero and villain protagonists and the conclusion was reached: the moral heroes are boring and a poor choice of a protagonist for your story.
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>>24851145
I got two theories
First: RIfag derailed the thread and anons started reporting him, if a thread gets a lot of reports, a lazy janny will just get it nuke the thread. This happened the other day when some jeet was spamming porn there
Second: the thread was deleted due to reports of advertising/shilling. The last general had several posts recommending wns, one of them the OP image of the thread that was just deleted it
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>>24851241
Just go with a generic xianxia cultivation (foundation, qi refinement, golden core etc), include typical skills, spells, crafting etc
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Jesus, we really need to get the webnovel general back up. This thread might've been slower but it was far smarter. Post like >>24851242 just depress me because they're probably at least semi-unironic.
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THE FUCK? There wasn't even a dupe this time.
/wng/ is actually on janny hitlist
Guess we're /wg/ers now. I'll fix the /wg/ OP when bump limit is hit
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>>24851155
Can you ask the jannies to range ban the chink story spammer, bakkerfag and gardnertranny?
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>>24851253
Don't touch the OP. This isn't your general. You'll get us deleted, too.
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>>24851257
>This isn't your general.
It literally is now. We outnumber you 9:1 and jannies say we can't have /wng/, so /wg/ is ours.
>You'll get us deleted, too.
Good? Lol
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/wng/ village elder here. During our first thread editions we had some unrest because janny kept deleting threads, but anons talked among themselves and figured out the janny was just anti-anime and we could get out of his evil eye by avoiding anime OPs. But this is entirely different since among the latest deleted OPs there were abstract covers with no characters at all, which gives plausibility to a recent anti-/wng/ janny being "hired in"
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>>24851250
We also had sceptics in the last /wng/, refusing to accept our findings. Those same people probably reported the thread en masse.
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Yeah there were no dupes and the OP image was english webnovel original. They're actually just being deleted on sight
So /wg/ is ours now
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>>24851138
>lion
pajeet detected
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Honestly /wg/ - Writing General and /lwg/ - Literary Writing General is how things should've been from the start.
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>>24851256
>post one (1) picture of Gardner
>gardnertranny!!!
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>>24851269
I was here in the day of the schism. The entire argument for /wng/ was pressed due to the presence of a schizo spamming /wg/ with his AI-generated "chimera" pasta at the time. Everyone tried reporting it to no avail, so another anon popped up with the idea of /wng/ for a change of posters and anons tagged to get some fresh air from the massive schizos storming /wg/ at the time. ironically it was the inactions of jannies that spawned /wng/, only to actively demolishing it now.
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Webnovels belong on /wg/.
Come home /wng/
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feedback on this? it isn't the most obvious punctuation but i like it
>On a hot afternoon in Egypt, a short busride outside Cairo, in Qalyub, on the second floor of a crumbling hostel, beneath a window on a hard bed, in underwear thinking of Katrya, holding my shortwave radio and compulsively tuning — I attempted to forget a time I now, decades later, cherish — lingering after midnight on a wavelength I kept returning to, night after night after backgammon games with old men in backstreet baladi bars, before trickling down quiet morning streets ecstatic and broken over Katrya, with my yellow shortwave radio, attuned to invisible signals from a soothing unknown.
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>>24851286
needs a LOT more commas to seem intelligent. only low iq authors use that few commas
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/wg/bros the raiding by websloppers on this and the previous thread, as well as the sloppers outright admitting they want to ruin this general tells me we need to convince the janny to ban every and all discussion of web and light novels. Those things do not belong here and should be discussed in /a/ instead
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>>24851216
Why can't you guys just go take over a Kant thread or something?
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>>24851293
>we need to convince the janny
are you genuinely a new fag? do you think this is how it works?
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>>24851261
This sort of pointless personal drama is why we demanded you get your own thread. You, and your drama-queen BS, are not welcome back. Go away.
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This thread should welcome in AI-writers as well now.
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>>24851293
I think they should just give them their thread back, what's the point in getting rid of a perfectly good containment thread?
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Aren't janitor site-wide, not per board? Pretty sure it's just some dumb shit consistently deleting an on-topic thread because it got reported like 400 times across 9 threads and the tard doesn't know better. The last /wng/ was way over bump limit at like 450 and nearly a day old. It's not some autist with a grudge spawncamping them.
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janitors can't delete threads, it's a mod doing it
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Either way deleted threads are getting annoying so i'm a /wg/ regular now
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>>24851304
Jannies are assigned to boards. They are just all lazy retards.
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>>24851214
Writing (and often reading) hard magic systems sucks unless you're autistic. By stifling a magic system with a bunch of rules and restrictions, you take the magic out of it. You also run the risk of limiting your story and making your prose terrible to read.
He's a hack writer, but Paolini did a decent job of following the KISS rule in his slop. His magicians can manipulate anything in nature if they possess sufficient knowledge and creativity. However, if you try to do something that's too far beyond your physical capabilities, you die. For example, if I recall correctly, there's a scene in his first book where the MC is trying to get water. He first tries to turn a grain of sand into water, and he nearly kills himself because he can't pull out of the spell. However, he later tries slowly pulling the moisture out of the ground, which works because moving a little water is easy as shit, especially compared to moving something like a big rock.
He has words for spells, but wordless magic is perfectly viable. The language is only there to help the magician guide his actions and not inadvertently blow something up by getting distracted.
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>>24851306
>>24851309
if this is true it really is over
and by over i mean TIME FOR A NEW AGE OF /WG/ BOYS
I'll get the new OP cooked up
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>>24851296
Hegel poster detected.
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>>24851290
i think i've reread it enough to find the kerouacian rhythm of the previous one more enticing, but a smoother version would be like
>On a hot afternoon in Egypt, a short busride outside Cairo, in Qalyub, on the second floor of a crumbling hostel, beneath a window on a hard bed, in underwear thinking of Katrya, holding my shortwave radio and compulsively tuning, attempting to forget a time I would decades later cherish — lingering after midnight on a wavelength I kept returning to, night after night, after backgammon games with old men in backstreet baladi bars, before trickling down quiet morning streets, ecstatic and broken over Katrya, with my yellow shortwave radio, attuned to invisible signals from a soothing unknown.
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Word on the grapevine is that a known spammer became the new janny on this board
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>>24850871
He was called a good person well after the point he thought himself irredeemable. Go back and read through every scene with his fish wife who he still misses. Read how the narration suspiciously insists he is completely evil and yep, no remorse here, nothing to see. At his core in his heart of hearts, Fang Yuan is a good guy typical moralfag.

>will
It's not happening because of dumbasses like you who'd cry bloody murder. He moved on and so should you.
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>>24851303
I think they should fuck off out of the board, I've seen them make obvious shill threads outside their containment zone, though they're usually deleted quickly
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/wng/ anons should make their next thread with images and titles of Jordan Peterson to fly under radar.
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>>24851306
This myth was proven false with the hack btw
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>>24851317
source: you pulled this out of your ass
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>>24851321
only /wanger/s that shilled was RI tard and K-man. It definitely isn't a thing normal to the thread
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>>24851313
I will prepare some RI quotes. We can't have a brand new thread without based RI.
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>>24851317
I don't doubt that if someone like Gong Farmer slithered into janny position, this would be the scenario he wished to achieve
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>>24851299
You say this like wng regulars want to be here anymore than you do. Don't flatter yourself.
>>24851321
So you outright admit that it's not really a problem.
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This is literally genocide
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>>24851299
>why we demanded you get your own thread.
i made /wng/ and it was on a whim one night when I was drunk. there were very rare allusions on both sides over the course of literally years, but it was not some big event at all. nobody was demanding it, newfag or poserfag
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>>24851327
I said OUTSIDE their thread
Some try to be clever and make threads like "I'm trying to write litRPG, xianxia, harem etc etc etc what should I read first to understand the genre" and then they post their own slop
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>>24851344
i won't say you're wrong... but 4chan is such an awful place to advertise that if what was being posted were successful works, you're definitely schizo
if it was some 100 follower story you're probably right
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What’s the deal with the hot girl who likes F Gardner so much? tried looking her up but she keeps getting banned on X. She goes by Queen Thugshaker apparently
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>>24851321
To where!?
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>>24851357
is he like 4 foot 8 or what?
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>>24851358
Off Topic
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There's a new general in town.
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>>24851358
To /a/
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>>24851220
I don't know much about African witch doctors. Looking them up, it mostly seems to be making herbal medicine and doing some rituals with instruments or whatever.

Not averse to picking out a few aspects from it but it doesn't seem to be a complete "magic system" or anything.

>>24851240
You need some rigid rules, or else you can't use it to solve problems at all. If you try to use magic to do something without explaining it or without having rules, it feels like an asspull. You can get away with it a few times, but beyond that it just ruins the story.

And of course you don't HAVE to use magic to solve problems, but that applies to equally to rigidly defined and totally undefined (or absent) magic systems.

Obviously isn't not a physics textbook, you shouldn't explain everything down to the last detail, but come on.

>The most important part of magic is making it feel real
A large part of making magic feel real is invoking the sense that it operates on some set of internal rules, even if they aren't made visible to the reader.

>>24851310
Hard vs soft is a sliding scale. It's not either or, and it doesn't even have to do with how many rules the system has behind the scenes. It's just the degree to which you set things up to be used later. The more defined something is, the more easily you can use it. The rules can be as limiting or as free as you like, they just have to make sense within the story.

If you want your protagonist to lift a boulder, it should be established that such a thing is at least theoretically possible. Failing that, it shouldn't contradict earlier statements on the impossibility of lifting boulders without sufficient explanation.

E.g. in the example you gave, there are rules. Your manipulation of the world is based on how much knowledge and creativity you have. Attempting something beyond your physical capabilities can kill you. Magic can't be stopped once started. Spells require focus, and words can aid in this.
The problem is that he needs water. He solves it by pulling water out of the ground, which matches/establishes these rules.

Later on, you couldn't just have the character spawn water out of thin air. It's contradictory to the rules, it would be jarring.
Similarly, you couldn't just use magic in a way that is totally unrelated to the rules. If he started praying for god to send him some water and a jug of it appeared in front of him, it would be be just as strange.

>By stifling a magic system with a bunch of rules and restrictions, you take the magic out of it
It's your story. You can write anything you want. You could have the main character turn into a giraffe with laser eyes. You could say "this character is now a giant bug", or whatever else comes to mind. That's not magic. That's you, the author, deciding that something is so.

The rules and restrictions are what make it magic. It goes from something only the author/the hand of god can use, to something the characters can use.
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>we're back to seriously discussing magic systems
sigh
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>>24851373
some web novels are /a/ inspired but most really aren't.
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>>24851380
>can we go back to last thread with 120 posts about the IQ analyzer made by a 19 year old coder for a hackathon project???? I got 130 btw :D
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books with this feel?
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>>24851385
>t. got below average
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>>24851333
You don't want to come back, we don't want you back... the solution should be obvious. The current thread alone, filled with stupid webnovel drama, reminded me what it was like to have to deal with your kind, and how much I don't want to do that. Maybe you need to accept that you're simply an unpleasant group of people. Perhaps you should decamp to /trash/.
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>>24851318
>Fang Yuan is a hero. Killing gorillions doesn't count because he's a le good guy at heart. Remember big beard??
That's enough (you)s for you.
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>>24851324
>he doesn't infiltrate the discords jannies and mods congregate
>he doesn't bribe the people there to be able to push certain products, personalities and narratives
Must suck being a small fish like you
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The new general will be much slower than the others, but that's fine. We're looking for quality over quantity. If that's your style, head here >>24851315
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>>24851404
/wg/ regulars talking about unpleasant personalities is so funny. I check in here and there, you fuckers are no better. Everyone on 4chan is annoying but you're easily as bad or worse than the average
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/wg/ and /wng/ don't belong together because /wng/ actually writes
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>>24851413
truth nuke
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oh shit there's actually a literary thread now
that's super funny. SlopLords stay winning
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>>24851412
It's because we're more creative than the average 4channer aka better than
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>>24851413
see>>24851072
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i am a tab hoarder and still had them open, here you go

>"overlord clone" anon
https://pastebin.com/aLFAJ2u3
>duo protagnoist story anon
https://pastebin.com/P2YQ3wVW
https://pastebin.com/YABRsbP5
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We might all be annoying but YOU annoy ME specifically therefore you're objectively worse than US
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>>24851413
/wng/ also reads
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>>24851428
it's true but your taste is really shit
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>>24851379
Oh, dear Lord. You are SO racist. Try reading "Understanding World Religions: An Interdisciplinary Approach" by Irving Hexham, especially part 2, which is all about African religions. Then maybe your webnovel won't be so blatantly condescending.
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>>24851200
i thought headhopping was just a buzzword made up by booktok YA/romantasy girlies to complain about multi POV being too confusing / not selfinsertfaggy enough
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wait but you guys do know what headhopping vs multi pov is right? omniscient vs limited 3rd split by scenes? I'm really scared I'm actually in a thread full of genuine writing noobs now
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>>24851408
>nooo u have a life outside of 4chan, not me i obsess over it and stalk people and shit
That's not the flex you think it is.
>>24851412
We're not the ones getting our thread banned. The only danger we have of that is you fuckers coming back.
>>24851413
We write like men, not women.
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>>24851232
>chapter 12 million
anon, it got canceled + gulaged by the CCP for wrongthink only 11 million chapters in and was never finished
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>>24851437
unc is responding to obvious bait posts and getting mad again
is this elder abuse?
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>>24851411
>/wolw/
>using any acronym over three characters outside /vg/
I choose /wng/ OR DEATH
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>>24851441
NOOOOO
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>>24851257
>this isn't your general
it literally is, /wng/ spun off from /wg/ and jannies want to unspin it
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Bilons must cultivate
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>>24851450
Who's Bilon? Are they related to Milon?
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>>24851451
Nah that's my aunt
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>>24851383
I saw a screenshot from a think royal road and literally every single one had an anime style AI slop generated cover
Plus shit like cultivation, harem and isekai are popular there, you and your ilk really to be moved to /a/
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This /wng/ drama is killing my writing hours. I must go back to my backlog. Please any anons who read this post do NOT let /wng/ die
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>>24851442
You continue to make my point that I don't miss the webnovel fags, and your pointless personal drama, AT ALL.
>>24851447
Just move /wng/ to /trash/ where it belongs. It has clearly worn out its welcome on /lit/. The solution isn't to screw up our thread, unless your goal is to prove that you're soulless, trolling assholes.
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>>24851457
Nothing has ever been solved without first making it other people's problem.
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>>24851457
>Just move /wng/ to /trash/ where it belongs.
And what if we don't? Web novels are part of /wg/ you like it or not.
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>>24851454
>and literally every single one had an anime style AI slop generated cover
AI anime covers look like anime? WHOA
They really should've gotten the English Webnovel AI Cover Generator... what a blunder.
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>>24851423
oops meant for >>24851149
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>>24851457
>You continue to make my point that I don't miss the webnovel fags, and your pointless personal drama, AT ALL.
oh my god we care SO MUCH. why the fuck do you think you matter to us? or crave your approval? you're literally the boomer asperger poster we want to bully out. Go to your literary thread retard >>24851315
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>>24851457
>Just move /wng/ to /trash/ where it belongs.
it's litrally about reading and writing novels though
many of the most successful ones end up selfpubbing print books too so they're not purely digital.
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>>24851473
this board is for debating german philosophy and schizoposting
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My $1000 standing desk is here!
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>>24851437
>nooo u have a life outside of 4chan, not me i obsess over it and stalk people and shit
>That's not the flex you think it is.
>He thinks I'm the one spamming to push my agenda and not the army of jeets I pay pennies to
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>>24851477
What about schizo philosophy chinese cultivation?
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Any /wg/ citizes who oppose peaceful integration with the Webnovel Protectorate shall be deported to /wowl/ and be left to wander on page 10. Do not resist. This is your last warning.
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>>24851479
is this gonna improve your writing speed? how much do you estimate it has shrunk the time until your pub date
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>>24851486
I don't think it'll help my writing speed (actually I write really fast) it's that I know I sit down for too long throughout the day. I do go on daily hour long walks but that's not enough.
Just fighting the silent killer of sedentary lifestyle. I know I should start a sport or something but... come on, lol. Let's be real
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We reached the bump limit, looks like we'll have a new OP soon :)
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>>24851155
>can't even lurk the irc without posting without registering a fucking email address
what the fuck
my human rights...
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>>24851493
oh SHIT i forgot about that
standby
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>>24851473
>it's litrally about reading and writing
You could say the same from fanfiction, doesn't change the fact is against the rule to post it and talk about it here
Web novels should be given the same treatment as fanfiction and be moved to /trash/
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>>24851496
Nobody gives a shit. /wng/ stays whether the trannitor likes it or not.
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>>24851495
Remember to include "Royal Road" and add the author spreadsheet while you're at it :)
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>>24851495
make it a Reverend Insanity edition while you're at it.
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>>24851496
>they're not novels because... they just aren't, okay!
>no my selfpub SFF novel doesn't fall into the same rule because uhh umm
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>>24851459
t. schizo
>>24851463
Then your bullshit will get our thread deleted, and then none of us will have anything. Unless you're purely sociopathic, you will rehost /wng/ somewhere other than /lit/, somewhere with lower standards, e.g. /trash/. But maybe you are all sociopaths. That would mesh with the experience I have with the webnovel types.
>>24851468
>admits to bullying
What did I say? Nothing but sociopaths.
>>24851473
Clearly the mods disagree.
>>24851485
There is nothing peaceful about your "integration".
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>>24851499
don't have the author spreadsheet but if you're the previous baker you can add it next time
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>>24851505
It's staying on /lit/.
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>>24851505
>Then your bullshit will get our thread deleted
lol, lmao even
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>>24851505
>Unless you're purely sociopathic
bad news for you about the average 4channeler
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>>24851513
>>24851513
>>24851513
Get in here slopbrothers
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>>24851507
The jannies have decided otherwise. Fight them all you want, but you will lose.
>>24851509
See? This is why no one here missed you at all.
>>24851510
Pure projection. The most classic cope of the sociopath is assuming everyone else is really like them.
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>>24851516
>The most classic cope of the sociopath is assuming everyone else is really like them.
aren't you the one dude raging against 10 though?
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>>24851516
It doesn't matter what the jannies decide. Abuse of power won't be accepted.
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>>24851514
I'll just wait until the users causing this problem get themselves banned, then we'll return to the /wg/ thread as it was, without all this pointless personal drama.
>>24851519
Raging against what, exactly? You lost me.
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>>24851521
You literally have no power to change their decision. You are an ant trying to bite an elephant. Wow... thanks for the reminder of why I don't miss you clowns at all.
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Do you guys think is the webniggers trying to nuke this general or is the same schizo who got theirs deleted trying to sink us too?
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>>24851529
What do you mean no power? Web novel threads will continue to be made. And while they're down, web novel discussion will continue to take place here.
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>>24851526
RI fag has been spamming his shit for years and didn't get banned. We're going to be completely fine, but nice cope
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>>24851526
>Raging against what, exactly? You lost me.
...? Is the boomer unc illiterate too?
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>>24851532
It's almost certainly someone or a small group trying to fuck up one or both generals.
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>>24851543
/wng/ was the most active fucking general on the entire board. Did you think all those people would just disappear in a puff of smoke?
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>>24851535
There is none actually happening here though. You came here, and then proceeded to talk about how you're going to talk about web novels but then not talking about them. You clearly think (mistakenly) that harming this thread will bring back your thread, when it will not.

The other guy is right, the very act of doing this means that you deserve to be banned.
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>>24851538
Your thread is literally getting banned in present time, and you don't think this trend will extend to the ones committing the ban-worthy behavior? Wow... you are exactly as stupid as I thought you were. Keep it up, moron. Do exactly what you're doing. That'll get you out of our hair faster than anything we could do.
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>>24851542
So you don't actually have an answer. Typical. Nothing but mindless trolling. Gosh, I can't imagine why your webslop thread is getting deleted. Your kind should have fucked off to /trash/ ages ago.
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>>24851549
i won't speak for others but I don't really care if /wng/ comes back
because we have /wg/ now
>you aren't talking about web novels
well first off: it's because taking over /wg/ is the obvious topic. we talked about web novels a lot, and will continue to do so when things calm down. And second: you fucks barely ever talked about writing either, so you're a hypocrite
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REMhNha3Hno

this is why nobody reads self-published fantasy
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>>24851550
>Your thread is literally getting banned in present time
Rather curious you say that, do you have any information or is that your own doing...
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>>24851550
how are you both uncboomer oldfag and a total newfag at the same time? It takes absolutely catastrophic levels of trolling 24/7 to even start getting timeouts. F Gardner had to shill his shit all day in the most blatant way possible, and he was breaking obvious board rules.
How are you this clueless?
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>>24851538
RIfag gets allowed to spam because he is the pet schizo of one of the jannies. You retards are hated by both the anti-anime janny and the new anti-web janny
Your days are numbered, slopper
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>>24851529
/wg/ is like a ghost castle with one servant inside, so you better let us and we'll give you free protection from the dangers outside, unless you wanna deal with actual schizos next time. Our numbers are enough to surpass even the fastest Jordan Peterson thread on /lit/, so you should be thanking and praising us as your new gods for deciding to gather on your general instead of /sffg/
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>>24851564
they really aren't, but keep coping kek
check in on your general and see how it's still owned by us a few days from now, cutie
;)
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>>24851564
Oh well, may just hang out in /wg/ then.
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>>24851548
What do you mean "did I think," I didn't ban the fucking thread. I now actually support the banning because your first instinct was to come here and ruin our thread, you act as though we orchestrated Kristelnacht against you, the only people whose day you are disrupting and whose thread you are ruining for no reason are people who had nothing to do with your woes.
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unc really thinks any of us will get banned. even the /wng/ bread baker isn't getting timed out lmao
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>>24851570
We split off from this thread in the first place, retard. Obviously we're back to using it now that the less disruptive option got taken away.
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Jesus Christ Jannies if you're going to ban their gay thread at least just ban them everywhere.
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He's literally begging the jannies now LOL
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>>24851577
He probably doesn't know that /wng/ isn't even a year old
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>>24851577
No you aren't. That would require you to actually be talking about the subject, which you aren't. You're asshurt that you got your thread deleted and now you are coming to take it out on people who had nothing to do with that, thus perfectly illustrating why your thread got deleted.

I now fully support banning web novels from /lit/. I initially was hoping that they'd give you your thread back but no, the other guy was right, you are vermin.
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>>24851579
Either the person who banned /wng/ doesn't cares about /wg/ or they aren't very bright.
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>>24851586
>people who had nothing to do with that
lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>24851563
>F Gardner

Based millionaire famous guy
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>>24851559
No, it's what the webslop whiners said when they crashed this thread.
>>24851563
Neither is true; you're just very, very stupid.
>>24851567
I'll say it again... fuck off to /trash/. It's where you belong anyway.
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>>24851587
If it's the former than by swarming here you have not hurt him. If that were not the case you would simply all be banned for having done this.

So there's actually no circumstance in which coming in here and ruining /wg/ is justified. You wouldn't be able to do it if we deserved it, and if you are allowed to do it then it is pointless.
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>>24851586
>I now fully support banning web novels from /lit/.
dude why do you keep making these statements as if what you think at all matters? it's so funny
you really are a boomer. only they would have this level of delusion
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>My debut novel, Squiggles and Eggplant, is now available on Amazon in both ebook and paperback
Congrats anon. Yes, I am calling you out, sue me
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>>24851586
It's your problem too now. Get used to it.
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>>24851568
>>24851569
>webniggers really think jannies won't just go scorched earth on both generals
kek
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>>24851589
If the Janny were in the room with us right now, do you think you'd still be posting, retard?
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>>24851594
You seem to think it matters since you're here antagonizing us.

>>24851597
I will not, actually. I will remain hostile to you for the remainder of time.
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>>24851599
He'd be dead from the stench alone
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>>24851590
Why are you still talking about this 5/10 old gray-haired bitch? Do you literally have nothing new going on in your life? Besides, I thought you were a tranny-dating faggot.
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>>24851532
Every single general on every single board on 4chan gets raided nonstop to make it unusable, because people eventually gave up on the catalogs filled with spam, also on every board, and gathered to the generals. So they're targeting the generals. I think it's the sharty or some other discord tranny thing. An organized effort not to push webnovels but just DDOS the site. The MO is exactly the same in every single general on every single board. Just spamming vaguely on-topic but annoying shit to make the site unusable and drive everyone off. I don't know why the fuck anyone would do that, but I imagine it's their life purpose. You've got these autistic incel shutins who latch on a mission like that and go at it 24/7. You cannot beat them. Even if the mods weren't a bunch of cock slurping faggots the problem would remain and you can't really beat it. You just cannot beat these autistic people who might be bots, not somewhere like 4chan where you only have captchas to block the spammers. Bans are useless and ban evading is trivial so it will never be gone. You can't really do anything.
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>>24851598
actual 4chan newfag thinks jannies ban anyone except dozens of blatant breaking of board rules, which this obviously doesn't count as, lol....
none of us have even been timed out yet
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>>24851607
tldr and i don't mean that as a shitpost just that i tried reading it and got bored
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>>24851599
>Troll /wng/ for months every thread to destroy it because you have terminal crab brain
>/wng/ posters come back after you successfully falseflag dupe threads to get involve the jannies and nuke the thread
>NOOOOO HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME?!?!
You are genuinely aggravatingly stupid and are COMPLETELY incapable of seeing that your actions have consequences.
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i haven't actually seen that many bad posts in either general...
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>>24851590
if you're so famous then why weren't you mentioned at all in the 2023 netflix documentary about 4chan, i.e. "the antisocial network: from memes to mayhem"? if you were really a famous writer, wouldn't they want to brag about that? and yet they didn't. why do you suppose that is?
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>>24851607
TRVKE
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>>24851615
Only because your standards have fallen that low
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>>24851612
>i tried reading it and got bored
Average /lit/gger btw
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What are your guys' thoughts on The Grandmaster Strategist?
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>>24851614
I had nothing to do with any of that, actually. You're imagining that someone is responsible for your suffering and taking it out on that imaginary person, who is not here, and in the process you have given me cause to despise you, which I now do.
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hey where's KK wing anyway? does he still use /wg/?
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>>24851633
Shut up, pussy. Rim my hairy ass.
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>>24851614
This. /wng/ was originally /wg/fags who split off. Picrel was the original discussion made here mere hours before the first /wng/ thread. Notice that I actually voiced against the idea at the time because I thought having two writing generals would lower both's poster counts, little did I know /wng/ would actually bring a lot more anons from outside and get that fast. Now we're pretty much being told to return to where we once were.
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He's posting screenshots of me...
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>>24851607
it's not sharty it's mentally ill NEETs who spend 16 hours a day on 4chan and initially joined the threads due to some kind of genuine interest in the subject matter before slowly going insane from their isolation
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>>24851628
nah, most posts were fine. even the melties were easily ignored.
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>>24851637
Your tantrum has only had the effect of further galvanizing our rightful hatred of you. This is now a matter of undying emnity.
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>>24851643
>buh buh buh it's okay to ruin threads because we got banned for being awful
You've just proven that you deserved blanket bans. Hopefully we get them.
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Why is no one posting in the literary general?
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>>24851671
>Hopefully we get them.
I wonder if you realize how hilarious this is to anyone who's been on 4chan for more than a year
I'm completely convinced you're a newfag
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>>24851672
Trad anons are tsunderes and can't live without wangers
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>>24851672
Slow and steady wins the race
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>>24851672
No joke, I wrote a full flash fiction piece based on that thread's prompt into the quick reply box and then accidentally clicked the banner board ad and lost it. I'll rewrite it a little later on.
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>>24851505
This type of post has the exact same type of feel I get from stereotypical Elves. Snooty ass leaf lover.
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>>24851684
There's also a 1 in 100 chance your reply will simply disappears after you post it and you won't retrieve your text back, so never type long ass shit on 4chan before you type on a notepad
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Even though I go someday
I'm here to stay
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>>24851693
you have 3rd worlder internet
I've been a degenerate constant poster for at least 5 years and never once lost a post
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>>24851407
He is absolutely a hero. Or are you going to say motherfucking Feng Jiu Ge isn't meant to be seen as a hero? Or that all the fucks in the supposed righteous path have committed far more evil than he ever did?
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>>24851693
Anon you're being shadowbanned
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>>24851719
he hits f5 the second there's a slight load buffer lol
or 3rd world
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>>24851675
I don't. I guess I'm happy that your fake threads are gone, and disgusted that your teeth are the color of Jewish shit. I like to imagine that eventually you will be banned for spamming perfectly good threads.
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>>24851739
From the 'chive to the 'log, /wng/ will be free
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>>24851739
Cope and seethe. I bet you don't even write.
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I use /wg/ for my anime webnovels that don't fit on royalroad. Please leave.
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>>24851752
Lips also covered in Jewish shit. A heart that pumps Jewish shit, like meconium, through your veins. How does such a creature live?
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>>24851606
F Gardner Derangement Syndrome is real. Frank lives rent free in your heads.
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>>24852001
Only in the sense that I have to cross the street to avoid a raving homeless derelict.
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>>24851778
I use /wg/ all the time and I haven't seen any anime webnovels that don't fit on RR
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>>24852313
RR doesn't have a single anime webnovel to its name you progression slopper.
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>>24852500
I don't know if that's true because I don't use RR but even if it is it changes nothing about my post
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>>24852777
>I don't know what I'm talking about
>...but
/wg/
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>>24852835
My lack of knowledge about RR is irrelevant since we're talking about something that isn't on RR. Please read posts fully before responding to them.
This is why we need separate generals. Chaff and wheat belong apart.
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Welcome to page 10, here's the real new thread
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>>24852999
>>24852999
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Little did I know I'd be the one creating the last thread, before the shitstorm swept it all away.
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>>24853123
Don't worry, once /wg/ goes down the /wolw/ Renaissance will begin
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>>24853199
I fully expect the shitstorm to sweep that away too.



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