Welsh edition>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recommendations):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Banned Authors:Joe AbercrombieA.A. AttanasioR. Scott BakkerC.J. CherryhGlen CookSteven EriksonR.A. LaffertyMark LawrenceGeorge R.R. MartinWalter MoersPatrick RothfussGene Wolfe>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffgPrevious:>>25517565
books I want to read:>hobbit>lord of the rings>elric of melniboné>gromenghast>conan the cimerian>the black company
/sffg/ approved?
>>25524572Didn't read it and won't because the plot seems boring as shit.
>>25524572DNF, thought the story seemed mediocre but needed something to read, prose was dull and uninspired
Finished this one at last: It was 'meh'Trio of former heroes hired to investigate some noble girl's disappearance, who, guess what, was a dyke (this would have make me drop the book, but since she showed up little, I kept reading)None of the heroes stand out, not for me; maybe because this is part of a greater franchise, and maybe I had to know about their deeds, but they never gave me an air of great adventurers that matched their legendThe plot twist... didn't do much either; again, it felt that it was connected to another an older story so it carried little impactSo, since the story wasn't good enough to drive me deeper into this franchise , I'd be moving to another book series
>>25524606Shame. I was really hoping it would be like reading about a non homosexual version of the WoW universe.
>>25524523Is Galatic North good? This cover + title makes it look peak
>>25524663It's the titular story in that short fiction collection. Mostly it's known for upsetting people because of its ending.
>>25524663To elaborate on what anon said, Galactic North is the chronological last story (and ending) to the Revelation Space series. You won't get as much out of it unless you're familiar with RS.
>>25524676Yet it was published before Revelation Space.
>>25524606>le generic green "energy"This shit was made in videogames because the player needs clear visual cues of magical abilites for mechanical reasons. Carrying this shit into literature is so stupid>inb4 how do you know it's not just in the cover?I'm just taking a good guess>>25524666>>25524676Not what i was expectingThanks.
>>25524693>Carrying this shit into literature is so stupidCargo cults are powerful in their influence.
I've read some Revelation Space short-stories, not the novels. I really liked Great Wall of Mars and Diamond Dogs. I could solve the Blood Spire, bros. I just know it.
>>25524683In-world chronology.
nearing the end
>>25524811>named 'sea without a shore'>cover depicts a shorethat's false advertising
I'm halfway through the Phoenix Guards and while there's something very refreshing and 3 musketeer-esque about the writing, I hate how heavy handed the narration is, under the pretext of being an academic text of History.
Are /hfg/ rapefugees welcome ITT? I'm gearing up to spend the next month & a half reading horror short stories.
Novels for this vibe?[Spoiler] in b4 Heart of Darkness[/spoiler]
>>25524890You can do whatever you want.
Fuck your 10 books world building and "elaborate" magic systems just give me an old nigga hacking people with his big axe
>>25524968>posts book 1 of 11 book series
>>25524976Except Waylander 2 and 3 you can read any drenai book without having read the others.
almost forgot about this general lel found it tho!
quoting Yes lyrics in your novel is fucking lame lmao
>>25525124What does it say about you reading it?
>>25525174nothing, enjoy your shining flying purple wolfhounds bro
I read the Prince of Nothing trilogy recen->Banned Authors:>R. Scott BakkerOkay...
>>25525124>quoting Yev in your post is fucking lame lmaoI couldn't agree more. You're a brave one for saying so.
Gonna read Shroud by Adrian Tchaikovsky after I finish Valis by PKDValis sucks btw
I found a copy of The Penultimate Truth by PKD in a thrift store a few days ago. Is it worth reading? I finally read VALIS late last year, but that was the first time I had read a new PKD book (to me) in years. Most of the 8-10 PKD books I've read I've re-read but not all. I need to get my hands on a copy of A Scanner Darkly.
>>25525241What did you think of Valis? It just seemed like gnostic schizo babble to me
>>25524572I enjoyed it a lotThe christian mythology was fun, you dont see it used this way often
>>25524550can I have a comment on my post please?
>>25525572what is there to comment? just start reading already.keep us updated on your thoughts, page by page if you so wish.
Thoughts on radio dramas? Or whatever it's called, such as this:https://archive.org/details/01-the-marching-morons-13-feb-1999-3adapted from this:https://archive.org/details/Galaxy_v02n01_1951-04/page/n129/mode/1upI believe some are adaptations of books or short stories, while others are original works written to be radio dramas.How do they compare to audio books? Is it a spectrum and there's a fine line between the two?
>>25524890>/hfg/ rapefugeesWhat's wrong with /hfg/? There's a thread up right now (on page 10).
>>25524572It was a solid 5.5/10. Nothing revolutionary, and reddit gasses it up too much, but it was enjoyable.
>>25525572
>>25525572Sure no worries man>>25524550>Takes time to do the proper accent in melniboné but says "gromenghast"
>>25525684>enjoyable >2.75/5>5.5/10>55/100>slightly above average >for others a terrible rating
>>25524550This is indeed a list mostly including megapopular entries into the fantasy genre. I cannot perceive the poster behind this list to be an interesting or unique individual.
I'm learning German with this sci-fi radio drama.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6jopsvjuuAhttps://turboscribe.ai/transcript/7430939385297779672/ytdown-com-youtube-perry-rhodan-folge-1-unternehmen-stardus-media-z6jopsvjuua-004-48k>>25525708>>25525739
>>25524572Everyone on here is a miserable sack of shit. It's a great book. The setting, the writing, and the characters are all very well done. Personally I really appreciate the points where the medieval knight has to learn that killing is wrong. Which is an aspect of Christianity everyone likes to forget
>Banned Authors:Joe AbercrombieA.A. AttanasioR. Scott BakkerC.J. CherryhGlen CookSteven EriksonR.A. LaffertyMark LawrenceGeorge R.R. MartinWalter MoersPatrick RothfussGene Wolfe
Why does Between Two Fires get advertised so much ITT?
>>25524523Update on reading War For the Rose throne quadruple (Priest of Bones). Despite the predominant amount of fags in the protagonist's inner circle I'll still give the first two books a 4/5 and the other two 3/5. The first major gripe i have though is how abrupt Thomas went from 'I don't trust anybody' to 'I can't hide things anymore to Ann' despite the risk of her being a spy for the crown and knowing her whore lover is a spy that's using her for information.The second gripe is the lack of a real motivation for Thomas to go against his boss and defacto king in the capital. He has no gun in the fight and is not apart of any faction in the Queen's Men. He's just being manipulated by the Provost Marshal's promiscuous hag wife to do her dirty work.I'm not sure whether it was Yev or Pagereviewer that recommended this series to me, but you lied about Thomas being indifferent like Kelhus based on a single line about him being less emotional than his brother in the first book. While it's true Thomas is not impulsive and wroth like Jochan, he's not indifferent either.
>>25524550>>hobbit>>lord of the rings>>lyric of melniboné>>gromenghast>>Conan the CimmerianGood taste. I also recommend Moorcock's Corum and Von Bek.
>>25525234>>25525251underage b&>>25525241Yes, it comes after VALIS sort of.
>reading Jerle Shannara #1>Brooks wrote a short story nearly twenty years later featuring Walker, that takes place around chapter 8>go to download the magazine it came inLook at these names lol
>>25525801VALIS has nothing to do with The Penultimate Truth. Even ASD was published years before VALIS. And VALIS is largely autobiographical, unrelated to the rest of his earlier fictional SF novels and stories.What was the intent behind this post?
>>25525802All banned.
>>25525804>mistaking The Penultimate Truth with The Divine InvasionOK, bed time for me.
>>25525808>actually admitted a mistakeCute. Good night!
>>25525241Minor Dick but readable.
>>25525808>picHe cute. What's his name?
>>25525816Some obscure SF writer. Homer Whipple did an essay on him long ago.
>>25525800>>25525765>>25525703>>25525696>>25525573thx everyone, I appraciate
>>25525802Tad Williams is good. I really enjoyed Otherland.
>>25525187There are no banned authors. I talk about Black Company all the time.
>>25525234Please let me know how shroud is. Tchaikovsky's one off books are a hit or miss
>>25525786>Despite the predominant amount of fags in the protagonist's inner circleThanks. Ive had this series in my to read list for a while. Now I know it probably isn't worth it. Hate when half the cast are faggots.
>>25525786>Being tricked by Yev's lies Many such cases. You've come to know the truth as well. His "reviews" are poison. You too are at fault for drinking too deeply.
>>25525786>you liedI only provided the book's name. No claims were made.>>25512513
>>25524925
>>25525786There's a fifth book.
>>25525950If we read between the lines, we can clearly see you making a lot of assumptions about Thomas' character.
>>25525958>we?
>>25525959We, as in all of us anons. The individual plural the same as the Royal We.
>>25525967The only person you speak for is yourself, my new friend.
>>25525974>he hasn't been assimilatedHow lonely.
>>25525974WE are wise to your tricks, fag.
>>25525994What tricks? You are one consciousness.
is the book 'three body problem' good?
>>25526069https://www.goodreads.com/group/show_book/1029811-sffg?book_id=20518872
No. I will not.
>>25526087Lisa is still waiting for an adaptation of Windhaven, you know.
Yev rated a book without a review. Yall broke him.
>>25526069Chinks can't write.
This was savage and somewhat ridiculous but a very fun read. It felt original too. Some crazy shit goes down in this story. CRAZY. The premise is:>what if in the far future when the Earth was much hotter due to the expanding dying sun, no animals survived except hyper aggressive plant-life and some descendents of the humans who have regressed in size and intellect
>>25526105yes they can. must be the translation that might be very poor like said that guy on >>25526075
>>25526101Jewreads doesn't want me to see Yev's reviews unless I log in.I did notice several women in this Goodreads group, though. Goes to show it's far removed from /sffg/.
>>25526110Could be interesting. Thanks.
>>25526087one (big) body problem, more like
>>25526101That does happen, but sometimes I rate before I write about the book so there can be a delay of a day or two. I just posted what I thought about The Broken God, which may be what you're referencing.>>25526075I wrote about the Three Body Problem, but as I've said before, this broke some years ago to where it doesn't show everything and repeats across pages. It's unfortunate how broken the site is.>>25526110I assume you read this becuse I put it as the book of the month. Nice to see it has any effect.>>25526113I post them here as well. I used to use a tripcode. https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_tripcode=sffgYou can also use storygraph to see them, but im not going to update it with any regularity.
There are many others who write about they read as well. https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/21679684-reviewersSometime I really need to entirely overhaul it to focus more on quality than quantity.
>>25526124loooool
>>25526128>>25526137your """reviews""" are SHITFUCK OFF
^ uh oh newfag melty
>>25525906Your welcome. I suppose the faggotry was to be expected from a book made after the 2000's.>>25525909>You too are at faultUnfortunately I am. I was too trusting.>>25525950I specifically requested a protagonist that is Indifferent and unscrupulous. Thomas doesn't meet the requirement. If you didn't have one, there was no need to reply.>>25525952Isn't that a spinoff? I know It takes place in the same world but it's not a continuation of Thomas' story.
>>25526210You more or less enjoyed yourself so it worked out. I also provided the other, but that was less serious. You were being silly and so was I.>Isn't that a spinoff? Yes.
I have finished reading Olaf Stapledon’s Star Maker. I loved the philosophical questions it gave to the reader, and the whole vertigo that leaves you after having finished. Are there any similar books? I tried Borges short novels afterwards, and despite being lovely. I found that they focused on many themes such as: a way in which society eventually collapses i.e. Tlön or Deutsches Requiem.
>>25526217The gangster portion (book 1 and 2) was indeed enjoyable to me and got me invested, so fair point. However I don't see what's silly about a request.
>>25526249You know that asking about Bakker and Kellhus is going to taken as seriously as Reverend Insanity and Fang Yuan.
>>25526262What's wrong with Bakker? I remember, some years ago, anons loved to shitpost about him.
>>25526267Welcome back after being gone for so many years.
>>25526262There's nothing wrong with asking for a protagonist like Kelhus or Fang Yuan. At least in the Chinese webnovel sphere I can (and have) find extremely self-centered and indifferent protagonists like Fang Yuan. In the western sphere however, nothing like Kelhus exists that I know of, which is why I asked (You), my fellow Anon.
>>25526275https://warosu.org/lit/thread/24703379#p24706704
>>25526275>nothing like Kelhus exists that I know ofJack of Shadows
About a quarter of the way through Dune Messiah and it feels completely unnecessary.The emotional state Paul is in was already covered in Dune. I really didn't need a sequel to tell me he feels bad about the jihad and that he questions his decision to lean into the prophecy for his own benefit, that's like half of his character in the original. The most interesting part so far is seeing the Fremen's regret turned to anger at Paul and their changing culture, which is sandwiched between Paul's moping and the comical Legion of Doom conspiring to take him down with the help of Steersman Ex Machina which is unbelievably stupid and only there to explain why he can't foresee what they are doing. He could see the future just fine around the Fremen whose diet is 80% melange and are explicitly stated to have a slight amount of clairvoyance due to it but the Guildman's autism field is just too strong. I saw someone say it has precedent with Fenring but I imagine the whole idea around him was that he was disconnected from the "race consciousness" because his nuts didn't work. Or maybe all of my complaints are acknowledged and explained later on, I don't know, but I'm not really enjoying it. Feels far too different tonally anyway. I'm really only dealing with the sequels because of the praise I've heard heaped on God Emperor but if this is the quality of one of the "good" sequels then I can't help but feel I'm setting myself up for disappointment.
>>25526231Egan. Permutation City.
Greg Bear seems cool, I liked Blood Music and Forge of God, where to next?
>>25526351Eon
>>25526352After that, Darwin's Radio
>>25526321Whenever I read posts like this I'm reminded that I don't experience life like this at all.
>>25526366What does this even mean, you don't read critically? You have a higher tolerance for contrivances? You have more patience than I do?
>>25526381Trying to ruin my own enjoyment I guess.
>>25526384Well in that case I envy you.
Almost done with The Voyage of the Jerle Shannara #1: Isle Witch.
>>25525951Not even remotely close.
>>25524925you'll have better luck with nonfiction: "River of Darkness: Francisco Orellana's Legendary Voyage of Death and Discovery Down the Amazon" by Buddy Levy
>>25524523The Broken God - A Requiem for Homo Sapiens #1 - David Zindell (1992)The prequel, Neverness, provides significant context for The Broken God. I recommend reading it first, but it's not required. Having a single book be followed by a trilogy is an unusual choice.The Broken God isn't science fiction in the usual way. Science is only a small part of the whole. The central ideology of Neverness and The Order that oversees it is Holism. Holism believes that all systems of knowledge are interrelated and none of them have supremacy over the other. That means that science, occultism, philosophy, and religion are valid and meaningful methods. There are no formal boundaries between these methods and many of the most influential galactic organizations freely intermix these approaches.The story is told through a not-quite omniscient narrator who details Danlo's life from his teens to early 20s. Then there's an extraordinary amount of exposition. How you feel about that may determine whether you'll be able to enjoy this more than anything else. The driving force of the narrative is the drama caused by Danlo and Hanuman's oppositional worldviews. This provides the structure for introducing more and more ideas to consider. Danlo's day-to-day life is the entirety of the book, and after he arrives in Neverness, it's essentially his life in and out of school for around 10 years.Neverness is the only city on the planet of Icefall and is quite interesting in of itself. The rest of the world is humans who 1000s of years ago genetically modified themselves into Neanderthals to live in perpetuity as hunter-gather tribes. Neverness has many technological restrictions, which makes it an odd mix of high and low tech. The primary mode of personal transportation is skating across the variously colored ice. The descriptions of the city were delightful. There are aliens, though they all may be genetically modified humans from millennia past.For me, none of this is an issue. I've written many times before that I greatly enjoy this sort of narrative and I found all the exposition to be fun rather than boring. The problems I do have, which are more than a few, are greatly outweighed by what I enjoyed. There's much less focus on sex compared to Neverness, but there's still so much about the membrum. The character development remains spiky where sudden and drastic decisions change everything. This gives it a melodramatic tone. I'm conflicted about there being a narrator at all, but without all the exposition this would be a completely different book.This is a weighty book, both in ideas and prose, and I had to read it considerably slower than I usually do. That enhanced the experience though, as this is among the best book of ideas I've read, and it deserves to be fully considered. If I made a list of the most underread SF novels, this would be on it.Rating: 5/5
>Walter MoersHuh? Why is he banned?
>>25526566No one is banned. It's a ritual post and newfag trap.
>>25526512pagespammer didn't 5 out of 5 it you lost
>>25524572It was decent, for me a 7/10. Hardly revolutionary and I have no clue why Reddit is so obsessed with it but it was an enjoyable read nonetheless.
>>25524572The parts were better than the sum. Didn't care for the jesus girl ending. 3.5/5
>>25526608He hasn't given any ratings to anything and seems to dislike everything he's read, or at best been bored by it.
>>25526321>if this is the quality of one of the "good" sequels then I can't help but feel I'm setting myself up for disappointment.YesThere's good reason why many fans say "stop at Dune 1"Me includedThere are a few good bits in Messiah but truth is that about half the book is filler. It's only 60,000 words and about half of that was going to be the final chapter(s) of Paul's arc, but the publisher thought it made Dune 1 too long. (And also probably disliked the timeskip.) So they made Herb hive it off into a sequel novel, but had to pump it with filler so that it would hit the 60,000 minimum to be a novel.Under such circumstances the writing is not going to be great as you can guess.And the story, well... let's just say I didn't care for it.
>>25524693>Carrying this shit into literature is so stupidmagic is puerile
Dune is good but it's not very good sci-fi as such. It's more like a high fantasy novel in a nominally sci-fi universe. Which might be suitable for the OP who already reads fantasy, I'm just saying it's not representative of sci-fi as a genre.
>>25526128>I assume you read this becuse I put it as the book of the month. Nice to see it has any effect.Actually no, I don't check /sffg/ that often. I didn't know it was book of the month I was just sharing. I'm sure someone did read it because of that
Am I crazy if I think Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep is way better than Blade Runner? Like Blade Runner is interesting but it's not even close.
>>25526847 Huh. I had it as book of the month for the Goodreads group for August. So go coincidences.
>>25526885to me they feel utterly different. Like the only thing that they kept was Decker's name and some very minor scene dressings. They're both good for their own reasons imo
>>25526566I have added him to the list based on your suggestion. You're welcome.
>>25526917maybe I didn't like it that much because I read the book first.
>>25526922I can't remember which I consumed first, but I really like the music and the ambience of the movie. The set and costume designs are great too. Then there's the conversations with the police commander (the fat guy, I can't recall his name), and the conversations with rachel and the head of the replicant company - all of those were really well acted and interesting imo. BR2047 really leans hard into being an atmospheric film too. I'm not sure that a movie will ever surpass a book's conceptual discussions, but I think something like Alien makes a better movie than a book..
>Open up fantasy novel>Dedicated to John McCain???
>>25526948Which novel?
>>25527028A Secret Atlas by Michael A. Stackpole
>>25526829Golden and Silver Age SF was a lot like thatIt's only later that we really got into the harder tech aspects in detail
>>25526948RIP
>>25526885What a mercerdamned idiot>>25527031>StackpoleBleaghHad enough of his bullshit in genre pulp
>>25526792I don't even think there was a reason to "wrap up" Paul's character, his arc ends ends in the Cave of Birds and because of the premonitions we already know what it leads to. The book ends abruptly and there are a lot of loose ends and/or wasted plotlines but ultimately it's the story of Paul and his story ends when he takes the throne. There's nothing in Messiah that comes off as surprising, Dune does everything but explicitly tell the reader what his reign is going to be like.
>>25525901I will but I'm a slow reader, so it might be a couple weeks lolI also really wanna read that Green City Wars book he released a couple months ago. I love anthropomorphic animal stuff, it's fun
>read PKD book>Semi coherent schizo babble about the Roman empire being superimposed onto modern California >"The empire never ended."I wish. the Roman empire was great
>>25526512your """reviews""" are SHITFUCK OFF
damn three body problem sounds good, how does it end? do the human race die?
>>25527360>do the human race die?It's far worse then you can imagine at this time by the end of the trilogy.
>>25527360>Bug SciFiCommunist China has produced zero works that resemble art.
>>25527418Racism is the soul of the brevity of your existence.
Finished this last night. Didn't find it very good desu. I liked the whose premise, the ideas behind it are different than most of its SF contemporaries. But the writing style is rather poor. On the upside, at least this makes it a quick read. The characters are also weak though, and it's not really a hard SF to look through it. It also has an urbanite POV anti-religious messaging that's not subtle at all. The bleak ending is probably its most redeeming quality. Is Disch worth going into? I see "The Genocides" is his first novel, so I presume he might've gotten better with time and his later work is more enjoyable. I need /lit/'s opinion on this.
>>25527431You're mixing up racism and troonism.
Threadly reminder to report and ignore newfag nigger spammers like >>25527307 >>25526164 who purposely make off-topic inflammatory posts in bad faith and has attempted to prevent book discussion for four years running.>>21323327
>>25527435The only Disch I've read was Descending. It's a short story. It wasn't bad but there wasn't enough to the story for me to give you an informed opinion on the man.>Next time you're on an escalator someplace, keep your wits about you.
>>25527431I accept your concurrence.
>>25527435I thought this was bad as well. Only other Disch I've read was Camp Concentration, which I thought was very pseudy and a chore to read. Maybe I've read one or two of his short stories idk.Don't think much of him as an author.
Finished The Lathe of Heaven. The exploration of reality bending via dreams was interesting but the romance really isn't needed (also the MC doesn't even realize how creepy it is to suddenly make the love interest into his official wife through a dream)I'm reading The Paper Menagerie and Other Stories right now and it's been a pretty amazing ride.
As always, there's too much to read. Choice paralysis is absurd.
Ahem
*COUGH*
My posting style is unidentifiable and untraceable. I'm like a sneaky chameleon amongst you all.
Since we're posting schizo screencaps, let's check what picrel was about.
>>25527571That seems more like narcissistic behavior. Schizos can't really choose their delusions.
The "schizos" that post here and other generals are just attention-seeking oversocialized gen z freaks. They don't know how to behave in an anonymous setting.
>>25527579Yet they refuse to trip up. I hate them.
>>25527546gene wolfe time anon
>>25527574Low level schizo hands typed this post.
>>25527589I don't want to read banned authors.
>>25527546What was your last read? Did it leave you wanting more, or satisfied? If the former, read the next in the series or pick a similar vibe book, if the latter, go for something entirely opposite style.
vernor vinge was very good fun.
What did I think of it?
>>25527656god fucking dammit fucking FUCK
So many authors don't finish their series.
I would say this is when the book starts to truly get interesting. Prior to this, character motivations were kind of "poorly" established and by that, I mean barely established whatsoever, the MC's actions are kind of legitimately crazy and unbelievable even if its for his family, and naturally we know nothing of his family or relationship to gauge how proportionate his response to his governments actions are. It leans too much on intuition otherwise, which is shallow. And you cant properly frame this as classic rebellions of old because rebellions are typically internal, and the key factor of a rebellion is ultimately convincing the citizens to revolt. If you just go to a foreign neighbour and convince them to invade its not really a revolt, just an invasion.The reason why this page is interesting anyway is because it point's finally towards there being more to this than had seemed, but also almost more importantly, shines new light on a conversation the MC had earlier with one if the Noble family figures of the country he escaped to, where he asked him to teach him fencing and falcrony...which he had books about in his home country...
>>25527761
>>25527761Shut up, idiot. Go away. No one wants you here.
>>25527761Based keep posting
>>25527761>>25527777Sametranny
>>25527761your """page reviews""" are SHITFUCK OFF
>>25527798It wasnt a review its just a little commentary so far because the book is admittedly quite boring so far
>>25527827your """page commentaries""" are SHITFUCK OFF
>>25527827I warned you to stop reading mid books based on random anon's recommendations
>>25527827Boring, bad, or boring and bad. The only three settings.
>>25526287Did you actually read this /pol/ fantasy? It seems like a shitpost in book form.>>25526297Will read. Thanks, Anon. Did a little digging and it seems he may actually fit the requirements this time.
>>25527761The whole series is a slow reveal. But I don't know why you would assume or expect that every character is entirely laid out the moment you meet them, in any story.
>>25527912Because he's a fucking moron. We've been over this.
>>25527907>Did you actually read this /pol/ fantasy? No, I skimmed it out of curiosity and amusement as seen by the excerpts and other stuff.
>>25527435>Is Disch worth going into?Yes, unless you're a christcuck.
nobody kills these threads like pagespammer something about this peace and quiet is just soothing
How many misses do you give an author before giving up on them? Sometimes i only like a single book and dislike everything else. How am I supposed to know which I'd like without looking at everything they've ever done?
>>25528117I pretty much never give authors second chances. If one book by them is bad, the odds that another book by them will be significantly better is lower than the odds reading another author from my backlog.
Gorgo! It was pretty bad. Please note that I never watched the movie.I expected a story about notGodzilla ravaging London, instead I got a scaly notKingKong (so a midget)*, abysmal dialogues, a shitty plot, and a "good morning, I hate women" main character.The script the author was working off of must have been goddamn terrible. (I understand the movie doesn't contain as much titties, though.)I was so bored reading it.* A bigger Gorgo showed up for the third act, but it didn't help salvage this dreck.
>>25528141Live by the pulp, die by the pulp.
>>25528117If it's the first book I've read by an author, I write them off. If I've read one before, I generally put them on the backburner after one I don't like. If I've read several I liked, I'll give them a down book now and again.
>>25524550Read Elric stuff to tick a box. It's... Yeah. Elric stuff. Do a couple of them. The whole eternal champion thing is a grind and your time is more valuable.
>>25524683Can you breathe without thinking about it?
Voyage of the Jerle Shannara has covered a lot of ground in the first volume (of a trilogy). It involves a voyage across the Blue Divide -- the Western stretch of sea or to be pedant the Pacific -- in search of three talismans on three islands that open a stronghold on another unknown chunk of land, which should hold a strong magic.It has been a while since I've read a pure fantasy book so it's kinda funny to see "the magic built up and lanced out of his fingertips" or "the magic welled up inside the sword then exploded out" and that's about all the explanation you get.So far in book one, we have covered the Why of the journey, gathered the airship(...!!), Captain and crew, obligatory wing riding companions, fighters, plot relevant characters, etc., including a young female clairvoyant seer who clings to the Druid as her sole purpose in life and a shapeshifter. Book one is not yet complete but we are already at island #3, with the Isle Witch + Mwellret entourage hiding in ambush. Prophecies and foreshadowing abound.
>>25528200No, I cannot.
>>25528209How do you sleep?
Does Reynolds get better at writing characters than he was in Revelation Space. I really enjoyed the novel but the characterisation was weak. E.g. Ana Khouri didn't seem real especially her internal thoughts when they were training in the Nostalgia for Infinity, for example
>>25528235The only novel of his that I've read is Harvest of Time (2013) and I thought his characterisation was on point.
>>25528235It takes a lot for a series to be worth reading 25+ books.
>>25528233With my eyes closed.
>>25528242Maybe he improved over time. He's fairly prolific so he must have got a little better with all that writing
>>25528250The main trilogy is (wait for it) a trilogy. There are two other standalone novels outside. Oh yes he wrote another post-trilogy novel continuation (Eversion?) but everything else is short stories.
Are there any male-oriented urban fantasy novels other than the Dresden Files?
>>25528250>>25528258What is this absolute nonsense I'm readin g? This is too stupid to be AI.
>>25528258>Eversion?Inhibitor Phase. And we have Chasm City which is another novel that the wiki suggests to read before of after Revelation Space. Then there are two spin-off novels if people care but yeah, everything else is just short stories.
>>25528262Yes, of course, there are a lot, and they aren't even Japanese.
>>25528277Yes, Chasm City is standalone. It mainly introduced that antagonist of book #2. The wiki page has been restructured in the years that I have checked it out. Mayhaps the other standalone was "Diamond Dogs, Turquoise Days" at the time.And the three Prefect novels. I forgot about those but again, they're unrelated to the main RS trilogy despite taking place within the universe.
>>25528288>Diamond Dogs, Turquoise DaysThat's two novellas set in the RS universe, yes. Diamond Dogs was pretty good. Haven't read Turquoise Days. >three Prefect novelsI think there are only two? Prefect got renamed.>unrelated to the main RS trilogyTo be honest Reynolds himself suggests not to be a chronology autist. He says people should read his RS short stories in whatever order they want because it doesn't really matter. It's not because a story is set in a given universe that it's important to the main plot (as you've already said.)
>>25528300Prefect was a trilogy that took place in the Rust Belt (formerly known as the Glitter Band). I have no idea why you are replying to me when you won't even use a basic google search.
>>25528280What do you recommend?
>>25528319Nothing Western, at least not of what I've tried reading. It's a misnomer that should be called paranormal/occult fantasy. If you want authors you can look at the authors section here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_fantasy
>>25528311I didn't know about Machine Vendetta. No need to be a cunt about it.
>>25527761Oh look, the single most autistic motherfucker on 4chan is yapping about shit nobody cares about again!
A lovely September rain has begun, its perfect reading weather but I can't for the life of me decide what to read :/
>>25528401It was the Prefect as the other standalone.https://web.archive.org/web/20120321074345/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revelation_Space_universeLurk a lot moar and stop acting like a typical vindictive newfag bitch.
>>25528412
>>25528428Uhhhhh... based. I AM a Lutheran, might be time to read the big guy.
>>25528412An Empirical Introduction to YouthSome random has a particular personal grudge against the book for some raisin :-)
>>25528428>>25528453Gentlemen pls, this is the /sffg/ thread. Pls stay on topic.
I am once again looking for weird fantasy to read.
My favorite hobby these days has been going to one of those coffee shops with bottomless coffee and sitting and studying/rereading Gene Wolfe very slowly, and trying to savor each section. I liked the solar cycle series on my first read, but I'm loving it on the second. Reading is so kino, I can't believe that more people aren't into it.
>>25528545wow sure sounds gay
>>25528548sorry, you're right anon. Let me bring my posts more in line with our compatriots. >GRRRR BAKKER POSTERS SCIZO 123 LOL
>>25528548sorry, you're right anon. Let me bring my posts in line with our compatiots.>GRRRR DISAGREEING WITH MY MEGAPOPULAR GENRE ENTRY AND PRETENDING IT IS NOT PERFECT LOL
>>25528526What's so weird about it?
I've been listening to fantasy stories on audible while taking walks the last few years, and here are my short thoughts on each of the series I've listened to:>The WitcherLiked these a lot, made me realize how badly the games are written in comparison.>The Prince of NothingHeld my attention until the cuckholding part started going on and on. Turned into just kind of a miserable read, and not in an interesting way.>MistbornHonestly? I liked these books well enough. They weren't masterpieces but they kept my attention. The magic system autism was fun.>Stormlight ArchiveI liked the first book with the bridge builders a lot, but the second book just felt so unfocused that I lost interest and dropped it halfway through.>The Wheel of TimeReally fun series, but the plot started to slow to a crawl in the later books and I stopped before I got to the books written after the original author's death. I remember the witches becoming so incompetent that it started being funny to me.>The Black CompanyI liked this one a lot, even if it got a little unfocused at some parts. However, after the main plot wrapped up and everyone went south to Mexico or whatever I lost interest. Started to feel like the author was writing for the sake of writing.>Malazan Book of the FallenI'll be honest I barely remember anything about this series despite reading it fairly recently. I don't remember disliking it but none of the characters or plots really stuck in my head. I remember the second book being in a big-ass desert? Thats about it.>Game of ThronesA really solid series even up until the latest book. Some of the perspectives are more boring than others but I think that adds to it in a way. A real shame it'll never get an ending.>Kingkiller ChronicleSpeaking of never getting an ending. The first book was promising but the second one felt really messy. I can't imagine the third one being good even if it did come out. Some cool concepts in there though.
>>25528637Didn't ask
>>25528603book 2takes one book to get you there butYEEHAW
>>25528637>However, after the main plot wrapped up and everyone went south to Mexico or whatever I lost interest.I enjoyed the southern Black Company books for all the plotting and scheming. Ostensibly it is a straightforward conflict between Taglios and the Shadowlands but there are so many subfactions and wildcards like Soulcatcher that you never know what is going to happen next. The fact that Mogaba of all people ends up being the final enemy is also very interesting.
>>25528647Elaborate. No, I will not read it.
>>25528637You should read/listen to the Drenai books. They're pretty good, especially the first two.
>>25524523post it on your twitter bruh
>>25528235>>25524523>Galactic NorthI remember reading the first storyfor such an interesting premise, none of the characters endeared themselves to me at all. any idea why that is?>>25528262unironically Harry Potterthere is also Laundry Files, which is digital revolution met Lovecraftian horror throughout the 20th century but told through the lens of a not-very-competent British government department slash special forces spy agency, but it's kind of woke and hard to read, and the last half of the series went off the rails. last I checked it was on hiatus because the author was so literally SHOOK by Trump's 1st presidency.there's also Rivers Of London which is Dresden Files meets Harry Potter but "Dresden" is actually an African in the British police's only wizard department. Very well-written, however it is pozzed to fuck and back. ROL in fact has not one single straight white male who isn't a bad guy or isn't regarded as an unlikeable cunt; all the good guys are brown and/or lesbian or gay; the recent plot twists are basically "imperialist white men did everything wrong"; and the last big bad was "white guy wants to revive British culture and this is bad BECAUSE IT JUST IS OKAY"yeah cupboard's pretty bare.
>found a book called of blood and fire i think last year?>put it on my to do list>order some books last week>it's a pre-order in my countryhuh, thought it was an older title by now
Thoughts on literally the most geneirc recently hyped 700+ page fantasy slop series? Has anybody here read this? Even a single person? I'm oddly curious how sloppy it is, the wiki does not give confidence and neither do the goodreads reviews, but GR reviews almost never do, some are just clearly more confirmation biasing slop that others.
>>25528754that looks awesome
>ayys invade earth>humans somehow winname 1 (one) novel
>>25528884War of the Worlds
>>25528886something after the year 2000, my dude
>>25528892Gay
>>25528892
>>25528892kys
>>25528884Halo, Xcom, arguably Gears Of War (Sera is not-Earth)
>>25528926Those are video games, friendo.
>>25528834for realz!!!
>>25528927Yes, and they also have books.
>>25528927They have tie-in novels, friendo.
>>25528637>turned off by the cuckolding in TPoN>doesn't mind the cuckolding in the WitcherHuh
>>25528198I just want to say that Corum is better written than Elric.
>>25528637>cuckholding partWhich cuckolding event are you talking about? Though I agree that Scott is too interested in cuckoldry. The Last High King getting cucked by his mage 'friend' was a little too much IMO In addition to the current timeline cuckoldry of Achimiane, Cnair, and the sluttiness ot Queen Whore Esmenet who sleeps around with the guard captain and steward. Though I suppose the King (Kelhus) cuckolding the Mage (Achimiane) was intended to be an ironic inversion of the past.
>>25528637>how badly the games are written in comparison.Adaptations are always inferior to the source material. I'm glad I played the games before I was ruined by the novels.
I finished the Scythe trilogy on a recommendation and found the first book to be the worst YA trash out there but the books actually kept improving the less they focused on the book 1 main characters, even Thunderhead is a better character and I can't think of it without associating it with ChatGPT.
There's something not quite right about a lot of the posts recently.
>>25529023it's called ai
>>25528884Footfall
>>25529028what do they stand to gain from botting this board?
>>25529064What do schizoposters gain by posting here?
In the unholy consultThat ajokli birthing scene where he enters the world scene genuinely scared me. I wasn't sure about the use of Malowebi as a POV character until then
>>25529023>pagespammer>that guy always antagonising people>that other "guy" who's most likely a bot>______(You)________What a shithole. We need IDs. Won't happen, though. They already ditch the IP count to help bots and samefagging schizos because it makes this place seem alive.
>>25528884Battlefield Earth
>>25528884Xeelee, although they mostly win because the aliens are retarded and nuke their own home planet.
>>25528926>>25529030>>25529111OK, so the premise only creates bad stories.
Damn. I didn't come on here for a year plus. Glad to see the general is still up.Anyone knows if E William Brown is going to publish anything?Also since when did you start doing banned authors? Is it because people meme them too much? Or because they are too popular and you want some hidden gems discussion?
>>25528884The Three Body Problem**Ok Earth gets annihilated but so does the aliens' homeworld and humans survive by flying out into unknown space and becoming inhuman + militaristic
>>25529129Banned authors are not a real thing. It's just some schizo mad that no one wants to read some shitty obscure book he likes.
>>25529133You're replying to that schizo.
>>25528996Will have to check it. Cheers
Should I into Battletech novels? If so, which?
>>25529131>picSo did anon bed Amber or not?
>>25529127Dumb tranny
>>25529150I wish we had global IDs and base kit 4chan X. This site is so old and yet the admin never wants to innovate. The site is on life support.
>>25529183Anonymity is the only thing this site still has going for it. Kys painfully
>>25529173>Should I into Battletech novels?I dunno. I'm thirty-year Battletech fan and a lot of the novels require familiarity with the universe.that said,>If so, which?I have always loved Victor Milan's Camacho's Caballeros trilogy, because it comes closest of all the BT books to just being good ol-fashioned well-written military SF which is enjoyable even if you don't know the universeobviously a lot of shit will fly over your head. but I believe that it's enjoyable regardless.
>>25529085>>25529183IDs never improved website quality and phoneposters can easily circumvent that.
>>25528637For this anon or others, is it worth reading the first two sets of short stories in The Witcher if I've played the games? Or can I go right to the novels?
>>25528884Starship Troopers. The Order of Battle series by Marco Kroos.
>>25529183>global IDsMeh, that's a step too far. Thread IDs would be nice, however.>This site is so old and yet the admin never wants to innovateThe hack should have been THE breaking point for everyone, yet most people came crawling back.>>25529190They can't do it with any subtlety. Imagine getting assaulted by (You)s coming from several "1 post by this ID"fags. Sure we can't pinpoint who they are, but we know they're trolling.
>>25529150I'm the chartfag, if you remember me. Not whatever schizo you have lurking around.
>>25529224Good to know. You can now leave again. We'll see you again in at least several years.
>>25529224Have you considered making good charts?
How are the Lensman books?
>>25529224some charts are more necessary than others
>>25529185There are no anons anymore. Everyone in every general knows who is who. >>25529190IDs are still better than nothing. It would cut down on the samefagging quite a bit.>>25529204>breaking point8kunt was a dud. The bunkers are scattered and are even smaller in population than this dying site. Where would we go?
>>25529346I don't know who you are. But you're right that there aren't any better anonymous boards out there, that I've found.
>>25529346>8kunt was a dud.>Where would we go?The other 8, I suppose.
>>25529346>Everyone in every general knows who is whoYou just imagine everyone who says things you don't like is the same person.
>>25529317Is Cebelius' later stuff good? I kinda dropped him after the spider book.
>>25529469the book with the drider is by far the weakest of the seriesthe 3rd book, with the gargoyle, was my favorite, with the 2nd, with the gryphess, was also good4th and 5th were not as good but still acceptablenever read the the one with the cowgirl; her design pushed me off
>novels should always start with a bang, to hook the reader and set the stakes>make sure someone dies or is in deep shit on the very first page, if not the very first paragraphagree or disagree, in the context of modern SFF, anons?
>>25529500No. Those who are brainrotted, attention deprived, and dopaminemaxxing must be denied.
>>25529500No because its not as interesting as it sounds. Book should open with characters interacting in a way that establishes distinct and interesting perspectives.
>>25529192The short stories are definitely worth a read in my opinion. They really help to establish the tone of the setting and why Geralt acts like he does.
>>25529465Not true. Samefags are quite noticeable. They don't often try to be discreet.
>>25529500"It was a dark and stormy night" is a great first line, I don't care what you lot say.To directly answer your question: I disagree and find this "advice" utterly retarded.
>>25529465Uh oh Bakkerfag breakdown
>>25529192Read the short stories, they're good. Much better than the novels. The games are technically set after the very last book, btw, despite recycling shit from the books (gayme devs are creatively bankrupt.)
I just catch up with 'the three body problem', is it the new big thing lately?
>>25529751>latelyNigga that was two years ago. It's so passé now. Boomer shit, if you will.
>>25529751>is it the new big thing lately?>2008 novelwew
oh shit, i'm currently reading through reaper's galeand just got to the end of book 2 when the malazans show up on letherasi'm so glad i started skipping the cast page after MOI felt like a slow start to this one but that perked me up fast
>>25529764>>25529761wut really? lol my bad
>>25529679The tip i once heard or read was to start writing, then go back and delete your first sentence. Your second sentence becomes the first sentence.
>>25529685I'm not bakkerfag, but thanks for proving my point.
>>25529906I think that was the joke.
>>25529908I can't even tell when bakker victims are joking. They're still rumprummaged by a dude who probably hasn't posted here in a couple years.
>>25529912>victims>pluralNow I know how this will sound, but I'm convinced it's just one guy.
>>25529913I can't honestly imagine more than one person likes Bakker
>Bakkerfag talking to himself power hours
>>25529934He's one of those writers like Sando who you have to be a particular age to be attached to. I feel like I would respect him more if he were writing direct to Amazon erotica. Though maybe not because it would probably be really gay.
any good stuff like The Night Land/Dying Earth/New Sun but more overtly scifi? Same sort of dying earth vibe but with more machinery. I have read Feersum Endjinn and Great Sky River, and the manga Blame! Looking for more obscure stuff, especially if its newer.
>>25529948Amazon produces erotica?
>>25529957Guardian series by Monteleone, maybe?
>>25529960Probably not. Yet. The Omegaverse thing is huge, anon. Huge!
>>25529505>>25529546>>25529679Thanks, appreciated
>>25529989Whatcha writing, anon? Hopefully omegaverse.
>>25528198>your time is more valuable.I already read Dune, so I donnt care if my time is wasted and the book happen to be bad too
>>25529992sussed out, lolmilitary near-future or SFthink Day Of The Jackal, Leviathan Wakes, Neuromancer
>>25525765I'm a boring person, I already know it
>>25529966all the reviews i see are 2-3/5s. Worth it?
>>25530001I really liked Ozymandias, but it's very much an early 80s "depressing SciFi" novel. Which foids and zoomers who mostly populate Goodreads don't like.It's only like 180 pages, read that one then decide if you like it enough to read more. You don't have to read them in order.
>>25529997High concept, first contact, or bolter porn?
>>25530015bolter porn, if that's what I think it meansbut with a bit of class, I'd like to think. more human interest than>and then they fired a million missiles at Mach 150 and wiped out the Xeltaran fleet
>>25530032Yeah bolter porn is basically all 40k slop and stuff like Hammer's Slammers - visceral and close up action. Literary equivalent of an intense action movie.
>>25530045>40k slop and stuff like Hammer's SlammersI've read all the Battletech slop and a lot of Star Wars slop so who am I to judgebut I want to intersperse that with something a bit more high-minded, like Dune and Foundationthe Expanse series isn't terrible but you can tell that it's written for TV drama (look closely and you can spot the commercial breaks) and as such doesn't delve deep into either the human psyche or technology
>>25530014Alright, I'll check it out. General reviews outside of goodreads seem to like it more too
>>25529999Checked
>>25530056>caring what goodreads thinks >ever
>>25524523The mega link for book charts is down.
>>25530163RIP we will need a new one. Chartanons?
>>25530163I wonder what triggered it after all these years. I have a back up account that's still up and have most of it saved locally. Probably others have it saved as well.
>>25530163You should cut off your ear in protest.
>>25530163>>25530176>>25530191Good opportunity to trim some fat
>>25530225The fat was the point. To have charts for many boards and not curate it, or really pass any judgment on what was allowed.
>>25530163Good. Make your own decisions for once.
>>25530191Somebody obviously downloaded a pack with CP in it
>>25530260No, that wasn't it.
>>25530264Liar
>>25530275There aren't any packs and I'm aware of what's there. I did have open uploads for others to put their charts their self that goes into a private folder that isn't acessible. There's a non-zero chance that someone maliciously did so, because I rarely ever check it as there's only a few uploads per year at most.
>>25530293I don't think that's what it was though. I'll say more after I get home.
>>25530293Sure, pedo. Whatever you say.
>>25530163>>25524523The charts mega has gone down a second time. I'm not putting it back up. As I've said several times before, I personally don't care about the charts. I rarely ever look at them and use them even less. The two primary reasons I did so was as a public service and to stop the same charts being posted every thread. Around 9 hours ago I apparently got an email that said it was terminated because it had been reported for illegal content. It doesn't specifically state what content it was, as the included link was for the entire folder that contained everything. As mega doesn't operate under US law, I can't say what it was. It's true that the zboards folder had NSFW content because that's what many of the 4chan boards are and why I had them on separate accounts for years. Since I know it was the main folder link, it wasn't the uploads folder. It could've been the excitable anon posting in this thread, or not. I know from searching for the link online that it had been shared to many other sites. One of them had a counter for how many times it had been opened and it was well over 10,000 last I looked years ago. I haven't done much of anything with it over the last few years so even though the backup is years outdated, there wouldn't be that much of a loss. If someone has a copy, feel free to do whatever with it. If nothing comes up, I may eventually see if only the books charts that aren't on the wiki can be uploaded there. The charts for rest of the boards may be out of luck. The only real question is whether it was reported because of me, or whether it was because of something they felt compelled to report. If it's the former, maybe someone else will have a better chance. If not, then well, that's how it is. Six years is long enough for it to be up as far as I'm concerned.
/sffg/ threads used to be comfy as fuck. I hate you all for ruining them. Why can't you all just be normal? What the fuck is wrong with (You)?
I've yet to see a chart that had good recommendations. In fact I've reach a point where I actively avoid a book if it was featured in a /lit/chart. Chartfags have terrible taste. Most of them must be trolling, I swear.>>25530437I dunno :-(
>>25530259I just liked looking at them, never really used them for actual recommendations. also, has anyone ever read picrel or any other Goulart? is he liked at all?I think this book was the worse book I’ve ever read. What a cover though.
>>25530571forgot picture
I've read over 100 pages in 3 days, for some reason my formatting has resulted in a page count thats largely accurate to the actual paperback pagecount so i dont have to do any calculations, it also explains why a page takes about 1 minute for me to read when for The Blade Itself it took about 40 seconds. I must say, I don't quite like that it feels like it takes so long, Im reminded of how much engineering jargon is stuffed into the book that makes me want to understand how a non engineer is dropping these so casually in a fictional setting, but its also possible that my ignorance only makes it seem more impressive than it is and hes just listing out a bunch of random doodads vaguely associated with mechanical workings.I will say, 150 pages feels almost like reading 200 pages for a typical book, except whenever I end up reading 200 pages for anything I'm typically breezing through it so painlessly that it doesnt feel like a mountain to climb. With this book, it never does not. Then again, I have basically taken zero breaks with this book unlike with past books I dealt with more comfortably, that probably counts for something.Its an uninteresting book so far that has compelled me to force myself to read more than more interesting books that are just bad or shallow. Maybe this means I'm close to ready to tackle history books.
>>25529934>>25529948I can understand people who dislike Bakker for his maybe too-pessimistic view of humans, the occasionally self-indulgent tone, etc., but pretending it's bottom tier genre fiction sloppa feels pretty silly. Was the Bakker spammer that annoying that people just take the contrarian position, or did you genuinely read it and get filtered?
>>25530725It's also full of gay and cuck shit. Fucking faggot. Shut up.
>>25530729Your little clit isn't supposed to get hard from that anon. Try to behave like a straight male and try again
>>25530732Shut up, bakkertranny. Most of the books in the series are filler shit where nothing happens and then you get hit with a Rian Johnson tier twist ending with The Unholy Consult that is horrendously shit and lame and gay. Throat a shotgun barrel, FAG.
>>25530737It's an anonymous message board btw. You can just say yeah there was this bakkerfaggot spammer that soured my opinion of Bakker. That's a normal and human reaction lol, you don't have to make up elaborate excuses beyond that>and then you get hit with a Rian Johnson tier twist ending with The Unholy Consult that is horrendously shit and lame and gaBecause it's either that you didn't actually read the books, or your IQ is legit in the low 70s if you think the ending was a """twist""". You get to pick bro
>>25530725>>25530732Did you know that ummm... The Unholy Consult that's been shilled for six books straight nonestop actually died and went extinct behind the scenes a long time ago and that ummm.... Kelhus' order of not-wizard not-druids took over for them and are trying to revive the No-God?WHAT A TWEEST!!!
>>25530743<----‐ do this
>>25530745>The Unholy Consult that's been shilled for six books straightWhat? Shaeönanra is the only Consult character who dies off screen. Did you also not read the book and are just pretending to? Again, why these elaborate excuses? Just say that the bakkerfag was fucking annoying and it made you dislike Bakker by extension, how fucking hard can it be LMAO >>25530746Shy clitty
>>25530748You're a lying sack of shit. I got bored halfway through The White Luck Warrior and just read the ending on a wikia. I'm right. Blow your brains out. Now.
>>25530750There you go. How hard was that? You could have just said that from the start, shy guy>I'm rightAbout what? That it was an ass pull twist? Kellhus literally says that's how it's going to end an entire book before the Unholy Consult lol. You just didn't read it
>>25530751Its shit bitch nigga. Keep coping.
>>25530753Genuinely unironically sounds like you just got IQ filtered by fucking Bakker of all people. Just to get an idea of how bad it really is could you tell me what series so get your lil clitty going. Red Rising?
>IQOnly brainlets put stock in Intelligence Quotients, bitch nigga.
>>25530766>Intelligence quotientOk nvm I'm bullying a literal aspergers kid, I'm so sorry. Dw it's ok to not like Bakker, have a good day
>DUUUURRRRRR.... U UH A ASSBURGERS!!Bakkertranny... its time to stop posting.
science fiction and fantasy?
/sffg/Schizophrenic faggots & fucking gaywads
>>25530779KEK
>>25530650Keep him banned.
>>25530775Sorry brah spelling common abbreviations out to sound more verbose or something is just extremely asperger-coded
>>25530799I'm going to kill your entire family
>>25530809You're 5'8 thoughbeit
>>25530810I'm 6'2
>>25530811Sorry I meant 62"
>>25530893>>25530893>>25530893
>>25524572its fine
>>25530811Damn u short asf clitty boy
>>25530650Wolfy's such a chud.
>>25530725I wouldn't say he's bottom tier, but he's very derivative and usually can't muster the conviction of his sources. There are better authors doing porn and fanfic.
>>25530725Hi, Josh.
>>25531306Keep my name out you mouth.
>>25531130>derivativeDerivative of whom?>can't muster the conviction of his sourcesThis is almost "it insists upon itself" tier lol but let's hear it then. What are his sources? How does it "fail to muster the conviction" of these?>>25531306IDK this bakkerfaggot might have been onto something. There's plenty of good reasons to not enjoy Bakker but everything I've read here just seems like cope
>>25530404why
>>25531415>Derivative of whom?D&D 1st ed appendix N authors like Vance and Zelazny, 101 level college ancient and Western history.
>>25531639Everything is synthetisation and everything is to some degree derivative you big dummy. Novelty is technically just really good synthetisation. Suggesting that something is derivative because it drew inspiration from as many different authors as apparently are in this Appendix N is genuinely silly lmao. And on top of that, it drew inspiration from HISTORY? Damn bro next you're going to tell me it's even so derivative as to rely wholesale on this thing called the English language, too. Creativity is truly deadYou also skipped over your "fail to muster the conviction" line. Could you please clarify this one?
>>25531663>You also skipped over your "fail to muster the conviction" line. Could you please clarify this one?Compare Esemenet to her obvious historical inspiration Theodora. Weaksauce. Kelhus vs Kugel or Jack. Tepid. It's weak shit for late millennials who haven't read a lot.
>>25531722>Compare Esemenet to her obvious historical inspiration TheodoraLol. Their similarities end at being prostitutes who were raised to empresses. I'm sure it was partially the inspiration, but again, literally everything is inspired by something elsewhere, and the resemblance is superficial >Kelhus vs KugelLOL. This character is le derivative because... they're both assholes who use people as means. Brilliant analysis
>>25531749Turns out that still fits the definition of boring and derivative even if you state it like you're laughing
