>>22714965
>Why does /m/ hate
The only thing we hate is your retarded ass.

I barely see it discussed here but I think it's less so "/m/ hates" and more so other people seem to hate it, I can recall going back 10 years and people just outright calling it a bad anime. Watched it a few years ago and it really blew my mind, high-quality production and some really nice characters. I'd quite like to read the manga, there's a Famicom game and it's okay, nothing mind-blowing.

>>22714965
It's not bad, just poorly paced. Feels like they tried to make a movie of a tv series, only there was no tv series. Shame, because it certainly could have worked as one.

>>22714973
fpbp
OP is a faggot

>>22714973
>>22715316
>Hurr hurr replyin to muhself
kys tourist.

>>22715314
>just poorly paced
Was it? I thought it was fine, considering it was based on a manga.

>>22714995
The animation and soundtrack was indeed pretty mind blowing even when I saw it a couple years ago

>>22715367
A lot of people these days have a hard time caring about something unless they spend an hour hearing about them alone especially if it pertains to a character death because they don't realize they may not care about that character specifically but miss it's impact on the characters they should care about. Basically anything that involved personal inference without further elaboration is bad pacing.

>>22714965
How's the manga, is it better than the anime?

>>22714965
I generally like it but everyone else has either bought into Bennet The Sage’s revisionist bullshit or they realized without nostalgia goggles on, it’s kind of mid.

>>22722947
>mid
Shut up

>>22722948
Mid is not bad

FBPB fuck you OP

>>22723140
It's the fact that you say "mid" like some kind of homosexual.

>>22723140
That's not why I told you to shut up, retard.

>>22723140
Mid doesn't mean anything, speak like a normal person or leave dumb zoomer.

>>22720403
Its like an early storyboard version of the movie and its not much better story wise. Its basically just war bad and everybody suffers the end. And there's barely any cool vehicles, the main assault bike is just some huge race bike with a gun on the snout im not kidding

>>22723459
>early storyboard version of the movie
So you literally mean the printed source material the film is based on.

>>22723545
I said early storyboard as in it feels rather unpolished. Things just happen in the manga that doesn't seem to add up anything and before you know it its over. The ova at least has some momentum

>>22723503
Thank you for sharing, this was informative.

>>22723554
You have no idea what you're talking about.
>ova

>>22723503
Huh, didn't know we had this, bookmarked.

>>22723657
KEK love you bro

>>22723140
Retard

>>22723657
Good thing I bookmarked it.

>>>22723714
>Dogpile that's actually deserved

>>22723140
>>22724619

>>22723657
>>22724430
>unique visitors: 1

>>22724628
I'm not saying having unique poster count back would help curtail this obvious samefaggot epidemic
but it would help us mock it
#FreeMyNiggaPosterCount

What was with that one gay guy in the second half of the movie who flirts with hiro, hiro then has a flashback of gay guy posing gayly, and then gay guy gets fucking blown up in the carrier and dies lmao

>>22725067
He had aids.

>>22714965
>Why does /board/ hate "x"
Immediately off yourself, you useless template poster.

In other news, the manga retranslation is nearly finished and available in the usual places.

I cannot for the life of me find the instrumental version of the red hot circuit song from this movie. It plays when Hiro is riding Kurtz' bike after the war.

>>22715314
>>22715367
Yas struggles to direct films because he translates his manga's pacing directly to the screen with little regard for film editing. Where the scene was in the manga, where the transition was in the manga, how the scene played in the manga it's that way in his films.
Venus Wars definitely suffers from this but the film isn't ruined. I think it's a great looking film that's dragged down by what you'd call "the edit" in live action cinema.
It's actually Arion that's storyboarded out so egregiously it made me go read the manga to try to reverse engineer what went wrong. But in Venus War's case I think it's better not because Yas did anything different than Arion in how he adapted it but because the original manga covers less ground and time than Arion does.

I really don't mean pacing in the sense it's commonly used by people to mean "it's slow". It's not slow. It's haphazard and all over the place with no regard for the fact it's a feature length film except for hitting a target runtime.

>>22725883
Not every bit of music on a soundtrack gets released.

>>22726029
Some tracks are often also combined. So if you're just skipping through listening for the first few beats you might miss it because it's actually the second part of another track.

>>22725980
Why is it that so many people can't just understand the simple fact that sometimes things like just are just a way to an an otherwise tertiary character stand out as at least a little bit memorable. Not complex, interesting or deep. Not engaging or even meant to be. Just a way to make him not as mundane. Hiro meets and befriends a dude in army. Dude gets killed. You know which guy it was so Hiro's not sad for some faceless mook. It's not meant to be anything bigger than that.

It's honestly amazing how people will focus on the most mundane aspects of a work and over analyze it to death but still somehow completely miss the entire point of the move.

>>22726041
People are really stupid nowadays and unable to take things as they are unless it's completely signposted and annotated for them.

>>22726041
Feels like a waste of time

>>22725980
I tried watching Arion but the amount of child nudity was really off putting

>>22726041
Because its a waste of precious screentime to deliberately make something mediocre.

>>22726053
>>22726746
Like I said, people need things completely signposted and annotated for them.

>>22726740
>child nudity
Why do americans focus on that stuff so much?

>>22726746
Arm chair critics get dumber and dumber every year.

>>22726906
because a.) im not a pedophile and naked children creep me out and 2.) i live in a country which frowns upon drawing these things like Yas has

>>22726897
>>22727025
This is basic filmmaking 101. You guys have poor standards.

>>22727027
>see naked child
>have sexual thoughts
Yeah you are a weirdo.

>>22727028
Post film degree.

>>22727033
>see naked child
>doesn't feel disgust
what even is this logic. "NAKED KID DRAWINGS MAJE YOU UNCOMFORTABLE? THAT MEANS YOU'RE A PEDO." nice projection bud lmao

Great thread.

>>22727025
>>22726897
They probably could've spent a few minutes on something else that people would've appreciated more. Weird you would want to defend this.

>>22727042
>NAKED KID DRAWINGS MAJE YOU UNCOMFORTABLE? THAT MEANS YOU'RE A PEDO
Yeah, literally.

>>22727065
>They probably could've spent a few minutes
No. They couldn't have. You monumental retard. Run time is finite. Budget is finite. They need to work in very specific parameters even for a movie or an ova. You are an idiot.

>>22727131
I don’t believe so.

>>22727170
That's nice. You're wrong.

>>22727129
die nonce

>>22727131
You realize movies are rewritten countless times to avoid shit like this

We really thought the faggot biker scenes needed to be in the movie, they add a lot to hiro's relationships.

Western discussion of anything can be boiled down to "wow I didn't like this particular thing so the whole thing sucks".

>>22727309
Avoid what? Given a minor ultimately pointless character the minimum amount of personality so he stands out in a crowed? You're chasing windmills.

>>22727479
>Avoid what?
Completely superfluous bullshit that wastes time

>>22727528
So we're back to you being an idiot.

>>22727479
The point of a good script is to not have pointless shit in it. Because if its pointless then what is there to care about? His only characterization was just a bunch of gay stereotypes with every line of dialog, and yet the movie treats him like he was always there and places emphasis on his death despite doing nothing except being a gay stereotype. Doesn't serve the story, doesnt reinforce any themes, it isn't funny, its just DUMB.

>>22727528
>Completely superfluous bullshit
such as?

>>22727530
if you removed his scenes from the movie what would be missing from the Venus Wars experience

>>22727534
the entire character. you don't know anything about him other than he's gay and in the army, and his scenes don't accomplish anything. it's white noise.

>>22727532
>m-muh stereotypes!!!
oh so that's why you are so mad lol
faggot

>>22727535
A bit of humanity from Hiro's perspective
>>22727536
Idiot.

>>22727540
>a bit of humanity
hiro literally doesn't acknowledge him after he gets flirted with

>>22727539
sorry didn't know "defending the useless fag in Venus Wars' was the hill you wanted to die on

>>22727544
the one who's dying here is you, from aids

>>22727544
You being a retard who doesn't understand movies as well as he thinks he does is enough.

>>22727546
whatever lmao

>>22727544
lmao

The fag was the MOST important part of venus wars.

>>22727575
It's the only part, apparently.

>>22727065
>Weird you would want to defend this.
I can feel the estrogen in you.

>>22714965
>Why does /m/ hate this classic?
Since when?