https://global.bandai-hobby.net/en-us/site/gundam-assemble/https://youtu.be/MTd6T-mUZHI?0Tb3yRGqw8mc7G2nBandai's making a tabletop Gundam game. Scale is 5cm, so about the size of a Primaris Space Marine, no idea about the base sizes. Rules are going to be announced later. I'm genuinely surprised they didn't try something like this sooner.
It's over for the west.
Cool, I never liked Warhammer
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>>23023737>KapoolI will now buy your game.
>>23023737>Hex-GridEhhh... I guess I'm on board.
>painting minis
>>23023805The advent of slapchop techniques and proliferation of speedpaint and similar acrylic lines have really made painting miniatures easier than ever before.
>>23023805Still easier and faster than airbrushing HGs.
>>23023811Easier? Really? I suck ass at brushpainting. I always found airbrushing to be easy as hell, just tedious.
>>23023737no colored runners wtf?
>more plastic to buy and build and paintWhy not just use our HGs?
>>23023805Minis are easy to paint, since having such small surfaces means you have to problems getting even colors. An ink wash + highlights smooths it out even further and you're basically done. I think it's mostly just a fear of the small size, when it actually makes it very easy. I've done 15mm models and each part is just a single stroke from a small brush to evenly coat it.It's also nice not having to separate all the parts out, you just hold one thing in your hands and rotate it till its finished.
>>23023737Where does part 4 go?
>>23023821It keeps them cheap. You're supposed to paint them anyway. People who don't paint their models are retarded pieces of shit
>>23023826that's the head
>>23023826Like, >>23023829 said. That's the mouth, eyes, and side vents. Part 5 looks to be the top of the head and the V-fin. I assume they're attempting to make painting the eyes a bit easier.
>>23023828>It keeps them cheapEGs are as cheap as 9$ maybe even cheaper, and they have way more pieces, articulated and decently color separated. Unless these minis cost 1$ I don't see where is the "it keeps them cheap" bs
>>23023805Prime, base coat, wash, drybrush.You don't have to worry about getting skintones right, you don't have to worry about doing pupils, you don't have 40,000 needlessly-complex little accessories that all need their own unique set of colors to look right, it's nothing but armor panels - it's easy.
>>23023823Why not just use the Gundam Artifact line (for scale) or Converge (for SD-esque) ???
>>23023832>I don't see where is the "it keeps them cheap" bsNo one said it's cheaper for the end consumer, just that it's cheaper.
They saw how much GW is overcharging their paypigs for their shitty minis and they thought they could do the same
>>23023823They're just kind of big. They're not the worst size and you can use train kits for terrain with them, but they're a handful. Minis are nice to pick up like chess pieces and wargame scale will generally aim for that. >>23023834Anyone who's built them knows these are very much display kits, they're very fiddly and fragile and the designs are highly altered. They're still very good but I wouldn't love to play with them.
IT'S TIME
>>23023832It's cheaper for them to make, genius>>23023837They already made their bed so it's too late to change prices now. They can't charge more than $10 per mini since the model kit is bigger at the same price. The minis will probably be extremely cheap but there's no way they're gonna let you buy just 1. They're gonna come bundled in sets, expansion packs and probably P-Bandai drops
>>23023737finally, Battletech if it was good
>>23023842Just buy a ton of 1/144 action bases and put your gunpla in favorite poses and use them as chess pieces like that
>>23023805>the reason the warhammer people keep shitting themselves over gunpla is that they look good without paint OOB>the actual gunpla wargame needs paintwhy did they have to shoot themselves in the foot like this
>>23023853They think they can have a fanbase of paypigs that will buy any shitty product they release. GW has that, they can release absurdly crappy overpriced plastic shit and they will sell millions. The problem is does bandai think they have that brainrotted fanbase? do they think they can release overpriced shitty miniatures and still sell millions? I don't think so, they have been selling decent and good model kits for decades, people shit on stuff from 2012 and older, I don't think going backwards will grant them the money they expect
>>23023843You wouldn't download a gunpla.jpg
>>23023853>>23023854I'm glad you retards are being filtered by a fucking paint brush
>>23023859enjoy your 50$ liutenant #375 with the same pose as the rest
>>23023737>hexshitI would have been actually interested if it was a straight up a warhammer clone. The idea of having 20-50 model armies themed on the different factions would have been alot cooler than these lazy hexboard games.Could see it even being split down AU lines, because I dont know how you would do factions like OZ who doesnt have enough suits and people are gonna want the boy band gundams.So much more you could do with a tabletop game than what they'll end up offering and I doubt it will take off.
>>23023859Nobody cares about painting, I care about having to pay 15$ for a 5cm monopose mini with no details when I have good HGs for the same price.
So these will be cheap and affordable unlike warhammer miniatures?
>>23023853Anon the fact they have already effortlessly bested at the premium, high end collectables side of things and are now gearing to fuck them on the low end, paint and play side does not mean they have somehow lost the other.Gunpla is still better than 80 dollar space marine boxes regardless of this. Smashing your dick with a hammer is cheaper and more pleasurable than playing warhammer.
If it gets us some more ship models, I could see buying a few of these things.
>>23023853Painting miniatures IS the hobby.
>>23023872PFFFHAHAHAHAHAYeah like every other tabletop wargame right? oh waitGW set the market, nobody wants to charge less than GW
>>23023877There are several manufacturers that make cheaper minis than GW you just don't like them so you ignore them.
Watch them come out with a perfect grade version with color separation.
>>23023853As long as they aren't unreasonably priced they will sell just fine. The Gundam Artifact line proves that there is a market for miniature kits with no color seperation, and basically no articulation.
>>23023872Define "cheap"Will it cost less per model than an EG? Probably. Will it still be $25-30 for a box of 5 minis? Also, probably.
>>23023808What does slapchop mean
>>23023886Learn to find things out for yourself
>>230238861. prime black2. drybrush white or zenital airbrush with white (some people go first grey and then a lighter drybrush of white over the top)3. then use contrast paints where it correspondsit's a type of speedpaint using constrast paints or similar
>>23023886It takes genuinely less than 2 seconds to type it into google and find a resource explaining it
>>23023887God forbid we have a discussion here
>>23023886Essentially, it means priming the miniature in black. Quickly dry-brushing on white or grey to create what are called "zenithal highlights" upon which you then apply thinned paints, glazes, inks, or speedpaints that will give you shadows, color, and highlights all in one easy step.
>>23023882take two seconds out of your life to consider how impossibly small and delicate some of these parts would need to be for color separation to work.
>>23023891Paint discussion of any kind upsets the Gunpla folks on /m/
>>23023896acrylics give a cleaner high, simple as, deal with it
>>23023894Bandai has THIS technology. For what they're going to charge, there's no reason they shouldn't use it here. I say that as a paint apostle.
>>23023886It's a tool to cut vegetables and fruits
>>23023901I think doing whole minis like that (and in a way where the back side shit isn't visible) is a lot more complex than single pieces that are going to be hidden behind a faceplateMaybe at some point down the line but the market they're going for with a tabletop game is already into painting anyways
>>23023901There sure are a lot of people in this thread insisting about how much money this is certainly definitely going to cost. I mean you could wait for a RRP or you could just keep using your magic ball.In addition, painting is part of the wargame hobby. It's fun and people like to do it. There's been multiple wargames that have done prepainted minis and not a single one has survived.
>>23023908>not a single one has survivedWhat about Heroclix?
>>23023909>people who look like random office workers bunched in with superheroesWestern character design is such bottom tier garbage
>>23023914That's J. Jonah Jameson. He literally works in an office.
>>23023909tbf I genuinely forgot that existed/thought it had already shut down. Dunno who's buying those things too gummy to give away in a cereal box.
>>23023925They claim to be the "Most Purchased collectible miniatures game on the market" So, lots of people, I assume.
>>23023929I genuinely don't believe them saying that at face value, so I'm going to assume it's 90% bought by John Clix of Nebraska.
>>23023742it's more of Battletech killer than a Warhammer oneif Bandai made a skirmish game set during the OYW with a mixture of infantry, tanks and MS that would be going for the Warhammer market
>>23023916>some guy in an office is considered a super hero nowThis DEI shit is getting out of hand
>>23023853pre-painted models don't always sell Wargames look at what happened to that X-wing game, high sales initial but fell off and was eventually canned completely.
>>23023962wasn't expensive as fuck though? I friend of mine bought a couple of ones but he always was pestering that shit cost like 40€ unless you went to super basic TIE fighters then it would be that price for 2-3
>>23023963the price was affected by the model being pre-painted so they were overpriced for what people got but all miniature games seem overpriced Warhammer being a prime example
i'd find it ironic and funny if these miniatures end up being more expensive than gunpla itself because they have to price match with Warhammer.
>>23024025Like infinity? people say is cheaper but is only cheaper because you use less minis, the price per mini is the same or higher compared to WH
>>23024025I can tell you've never taken a business class before. Anybody with an IQ above 80 already knows for a fact that the minis will be cheaper than gunpla. The way they're gonna get you is by making the game itself (board, rules, dice, etc) expensive and making you buy sets of different minis.
>>23024034this kit is cheaper than the warhammer tanks, for reference.
>>23023737why is the music so ominous
Honestly I'm more intrigued by the game itself. Can we build armies of grunt MS and have like a hero unit to fuck shit up or is it only Gundam only?
>>23024060seems pretty low scale in size so it might just Hero ships only at the startwonder when they will show of more info for it
>>23024060The fucking KAPOOL is a unit, its more than likely we're gonna be running with "Hero" units. AKA you'll get shit like a GM command, but its the one Yuu Kajima was in. Or a Stark Jegan piloted by that random badass.
>>23023737I give it one year.
>>23024108Bandai have the money and production capacity to keep going on this little experiment at a loss for a while so i could see it sticking around if Battletech can keep going despite Catalysts game labs incompetence as business this will be be fine
>>23024109One. Year. Tell GunEvo to make room.
>>23024105It's a 10x11 hex board seemingly with 3 (maybe a range like 2-5 or something) models a team with some stuff like balls being 2 per base
>>23024125here another image odd for a diorama to still have the bases on the model
>>23024134IS THAT MY BOY TV DEATHSCYTHE HELL???
>>23024125>Zeong is one tile>Sinanju is twowhat?
>>23024125Zudah?
>>23024146The table isn't melting on that spot so no
>>23024125>11x10
>>23024134because it's just a display to show them off but the bases are part of the game
>>23024144That actually does make sense. Zeong is only 17.3 meters tall, Sinanju is 22.6. Remember, Mobile suits got fucking big by the 0090's
>>23024160hexless play if a thing in Battletech so i wouldn't be surprised if this game has similar rules as well
>>23024171They're doing it all around this size of mat because they want it to be a thing card shops and stuff can run with the easy prizing of winners mats and shit.
>>23023737>I'm genuinely surprised they didn't try something like this sooner.They did. Gundam already tried everything in the past.
>>23024175When was the last attempt at a miniature wargame by Bandai?
>>23023737the thing is, like 90% of gunpla/gundam fans are snap shitters so this is basically gonna force them to learn to hand paint
>>23024179Gundam 0080 a War in the Pocket.
>>23024162I don't know the height is what matters but width. Zeong lacks legs but its width is bigger. At the very least they should have both the same number of tiles
>>23024184so the early 90s then?so about as long as 40k has existed as a franchise
>>23023737OH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD YES! I hope the stock will be infinitely better than artefacts. As long as they do not go full Games Workshop in the pricing aspect i will be over the moon. HG are too big for me.>>23023834Because they are always out of stock everywhere.>>23023853>the reason the warhammer people keep shitting themselves over gunpla is that they look good without paint OOB>warhammer peopleWharhammer people keep shitting themselves is because Gunpla is fifty million times cheaper. That's it.>>23023877>GW set the market, nobody wants to charge less than GWExcept for>recasters>historical models>Wargames atlantic>mantic>STL sellers for 3d prints.Why must you pretend to know the wargaming side?
>>23023737>want to play game>it's actually just a painting sim with an insufferable community of troons?
>>23024183That's normal, most wargame fans never paint their models either. It's always the grey legion versus the unceasing grey tides.
>>23024187i do actually think its height in this cause just so they can fit on the base. The zeong doesnt have legs so its floating, meanwhile the Sinanju and FA Unicorn are big boys so they get 2.
>>23023808>slapchop.i love how zoomers have to rename everything because they do something they didn't know existed before them.>inkpainting. has been used since the 1880's.>and, has no presence on the internet whatsoever because grandmas do it.
>>23024162>>23024205Are Victory and F91 gonna take half a tile?
>>23023737>Hex basedOh thank Deikun, my gundam BT minis are useable.
>>23023855
>>23024199>a painting sim with an insufferable community of troonsit's not a sim if you actually did painting.troons are a problem though
>>23023875The ship models are what I'm most excited for honestly. Hopefully there's a nice variety of them.
>>23024246They tend to only exist online. The amount of effort and care it takes to build, paint, and play IRL tends to filter them. Prepare for a lot of autists
>>23024281That's because they barely make up like 1% of the population yet you retards act like they're everywhere. Living under your bed, in your closet just waiting to molest you when fall asleep.
>>23024125White Dingo GM on the far right, so we will be getting non mainstream works.I thought they would have prioritised Netflix Gundam as thus is directed at the western market.At the moment this multiverse game will feel more like a superhero skirmish rather than a militaristic fleet battle.
>>23023737The minis have pegs for base attachment.
>>23024283b-b-but the liebrul media says they're everywhere!
>>23024281>>23024283>>23024312fun fact from /tg/:the Warhammer and BT IRL communities have been obviously sent IRL troon representatives. Or at least, ugly goblin men in dresses. You have some superskinny man in poorly fit booty shorts and makeup buying AoS figures and introducing himself as "Shannon". Throw a Battletech meet and 2 men in high heels and very bad makeup show up speaking in 'the gay accent'In the summer of 2023 i went to 4 different gamestores and ALL of them had at least one cross-dressing employee.if you actually leave the house, to play mini-games, you will see these freaks.This kind of IRL harassment is probably some kind of 'visibility' ploy, which is funny, no one else in history cared about 'visibility'.The gay community, if they support this, are probably waiting for backlash they can complain about.
I'm curious, how much of /m/ has been interested in tabletop games before this announcement? Did you guys ever play Battletech, 40k, Heavy Gear, or even something like Mechastellar with existing Gunpla stuff?
>>23024343I messed around with Battletech and 40k once or twice at local games shop, I was there for Magic and stuff but tried a bit of minis. Seems nice but I'm a total clod about painting and already had plenty of crap to waste money on.did a bit of miniature-assisted DnD, we usually used lego figs, same for Star Wars d20, we did lego and 3.25inch but that's not so much "tabletop" like wargaminga thousand years ago I got a retailer pack of a dozen or so figs from Z-G, this weird robot thing by Mark Rein*Hagen (the Vampire guy)never played it, but it was like, buy one fig for fifteen bucks or the pack for thirty, and if I'm every going to play this I suspect I have to bring the party.
>>23024321Meanwhile the worst I've seen is a couple dykes and one guy with a trans rights AR-15 sticker on his Magic case. I believe he was banned from that LGS for being a gigantic megafaggot as well because I stopped seeing him after a couple months. But I haven't been in a while either, what I do remember is that most of the people I saw who were there to play toy soldiers were either 40 year old neckbeards or guys around my age. Nearly all of them fat, but I can only recall one time I went to an LGS and enocuntered someone who smelled like piss. I'm presumably lucky in that regard, I know for a fact there are some absolute creatures into /tg/ shit.>>23024343I started playing Magic a couple years ago and fell off of it. Tried getting into 40k and I ended up selling my minis because I didn't gave the time or money to spend painting them, that and 10th edition being a shitshow. I do still want to get a couple 1000 point lists together if Black Templars and Tyranids, but I might end up sticking solely to the hobby side without playing. Depending on how the rules for this game are and what my local scene looks like though I might go all in on Gundam Assemble.
>>23024343/tg/ here: i doubt you will find much.I am not a member of /m/ per se, but i have always had interest in mecha.the local fanbase is oddly two-faced, so i stay away.>/m/ is either 80% closet bisexual/trans or pretends to be to keep other people who might like mecha and not be gay away...hmmm....
>>23024343I've played war games like 40k before but never owned the minis because they're expensive. I grew up in a very poor country and only moved to the US a few years ago so I didn't know most of this stuff existed. I recently graduated high school and got my first job and my coworkers got me into Magic the Gathering and D&D since it's cheap so I have some experience with this stuff. I'm definitely going to buy this when it comes out and try it.
>>23024357>the worst I've seen is a couple dykes and one guy with a trans rights AR-15 sticker on his Magic case.Lucky man.I assume you don't live in a large West Coast city, or if you do you are making that all up to downplay the scenario I have seen.for some reason, 2018-2023 has been an influx.My old city used to be one of the most conservative in the US. Very old school.then, 2 dozen loud trans and 100 black gansgta types all live downtown, with more to come.funny....At least the Gundam GunPla scene is all white hipsters and asian guys of whatever orientation, they at least dress well in public and keep polite.
>>23024343I play BattleTech and have Heavy Gear minis + rules as well as Gamma wolves.I use Gundam minis from the old pepsi caps, to artifacts, and others for BattleTech with no complaints. I only sparingly go to /tg/ for the /btg/ and /mecham/ threads because the average /tg/ user and their threads are..Well, they aren't really known as the brain trust.
>>23024125Zudah, my beloved...
>>23023737Not only that they going launch new TCG this year but they also gonna make tabletop game. What's next, Gundam DnD?
>>23024448GuDnDam
i have 0% confidence that they'll make an actual enjoyable game ruleswisethat tiny ass map is not a good sign
Can I use Eldar Harlequins as proxy for Jupiter mobile suits?
>>23024461It's probably just the free map that comes with the core book. They probably have rules for making your own terrain.
>>23024484yeah that would make sense if they had any sort of wargaming backgroundseeing as they don't i'm expecting the worst
>>23024491Pessimism is feminine and irrational. If you scrolled through the thread you would've seen that they provided official examples of the minis on custom terrain.
>>23024491>seeing as they don't i'm expecting the worstHmm...
>>23024448RPGs require consistent rules which all the Gundam settings lack to an extant
>>23024501>extantYeah I'm not too confident about your opinion
I pretty firmly believe it's going to be a non-scale hexgame but with miniatures. It might play mechanically simulationist, it might not. But japan's got a pretty big fanbase for hexgames and gundam has had multiple of them, from full campaigns to SD kids sets. It's definitely not even close to full scale with unicorn gundam on what seems to be a 10 square grid lol, and it's not going to be squads of zakus fighting squads of gms as a wargame.It's a firm move in the direction of supporting scale miniatures and exploring the market though, and that's what I'm curious about. They're probably playing it safe and releasing a small scale all in one box set and miniature booster packs and seeing how it goes. I'm buying a shitload of these little guys anywhich way.
i wonder if i can use my sd gundams for thisthey're about the same size i think and i collected them mostly because they don't take up much space
>>23024502extent sorry
>>23024507Probably candy toy or gashapon figures would fit, so this could become miniature agnostic.i need the ruleset to be interesting with parry, counteratttack, block, dodge, reroll, repair, leadership.At the moment it it feels like it will either be an arena style game like Corvus Belli Aristeia or Battletech.
argh if they just upped the model count to like 10 it'd be perfectit'd be like playing g generation on the tabletop
>>23024504I wonder if this is a collectable miniatures game, one where people are expected to collect every single one, especially if fielded units are unique and don't allow multiples except for grunts with alt sculpts. Aristeia, Warcrow seems to be so and Kill Team and Shatterpoint to some extent.
>>23024500This looks neat
If Star Wars Shatterpoint's lineup took cues from Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes, then Gundam Assemble may take after the recently discontinued Gundam Evolution.
>>23024572yeah i imagine that's the selling point, i want to build a dream team of dudesbut my dream team is significantly more than 2-3 suits
>>23024108one year wargame
>>23024572I hope one day Bamco will try again with GunEvo. And if I'm lucky they won't go full retard the second time
>>23023737I never gave a fuck about Warhammer or westoid IPs in general, but this could get me to try miniature gaming. Hopefully the prices are to Bandai's standards rather than Games Workshop's.
>>23024602I mean, one small runner for an unpainted 2 inch figure, I expect the price to be really cheap in comparison to other miniature games.
>>23024605$9, that's the best deal I can give you
>>23024594what did they do that was retardedi tried it but i was too much of a shitter to git gud so i stopped
>>23024343I used to play Yugioh but the crowd surrounding that game put me off. That and the price of staying 'meta'. I'm a weaboo so Warcraft and MTG weren't my thing. I hope that this game gets a good online client at least, that will make or break it for me.
>>23024608I mean... if one card game started deck costs 12 bucks and the edition with 3 mini-Gunplas costs 35, that's around 7,6 for each mini in that set. I guess you will be right.
>>23024612They Gave away 2/3s of the suit at launch and then realizing they had to actually make money with suits unlocks were really stingy with how you had you could unlock the last 1/3 of the suits with a forced time gate of one suit a season max with no catch-up mechanic. Said 1/3 were also all suits that weren't in the playtest so they varied wildly in power level and included some of the strongest launch suits because of this. They also made the new player pass take 28 days to finish instead of 7 days until changing it far after launch. It's a real shame not none of the hero shoots went for the same style of just make everyone DPS or Bruise Style Tanks so that teams were based on general synergy instead of fitting a forced Tank Support DPS style.
>>23024602Price will factor in the cost of developing unit profiles. So they won't cost the same as a gashapon or candy toy.
>>23024605>I mean, one small runner for an unpainted 2 inch figure, I expect the price to be really cheap in comparison to other miniature games.Considering it costs 23 fucking dollars more for a single mini, theyre on crack out the gate.
>>23024025Considering the competition might be a better job to shoot for the pricing scale of battletech instead.
>>23024858>Gundam Card Game Gundam AssembleWait it's tied to the TCG?
>>23023845>They can't charge more than $10 per mini since the model kit is bigger at the same pricekek then what's this >>23024858?I told you they were going to be overpriced as fuck because GW does the same and nobody wants to be the retard who doesn't get ritch with this scam
>>23024867No, it comes with cards like the skirmish games of WH and AoS
>>23024858>23USD for one Holy christ. Well this might die quick. Why not 10 a pop? That about as much as I would pay for a plastic Battlemech or Heavy Gear. I'm hoping this is just an estimate and it's cheaper than that.
>>23024504I kind of wonder if it does well enough if they could move into a larger scale or maybe at least skirmish scale with mass produced mechs, if they added some more customizations options could be a fun.
>>23023737Guncannon confirmed in the mixed PVhttps://youtu.be/QKxmw_6Z7fc?si=l9YOjsiyY28Hyg3xSo we got 27 sculpts so far.GundamChar's ZakuWing ZeroAerialFA UnicornKapoolArchangelRising FreedomTallgeeseStrike GundamSinanjuGuntankGuncannonZaku heathawkOld ZakuZaku bazooka (just different arm)Gundam (saber)GM (saber)GMWhite Dingo GMBallCCA TorohachiZudahZeongMighty Strike FreedomRising Freedom MADeathscythe Hell TV
>>2302485835 USD for a TCG deck and 3 minis.So everything else will be in boosters?What is the typical price for a TCG deck and what deck size?Is Gundam going to be priced higher than the Digimon TCG?
>>23024890MTG hovers around $20 or so for their decks so really not a bad deal.
>>23024878based zudahgotta go fast
>>23024858So the TCG and the Wargame are one and the same??
>>23024858>23 fucking dollars more for a single mini3 minis>>23024890It's a promotional tie in for those that want the card game and the minis. The actual miniature game won't even be released yet when those decks are selling.
>>23024918No, the wargame has yet to be announced details and rules, the card game doesn't need minis and are just a cosmetic.
>>23024290>>23024878Is the White Dingo GM different from a regular GM besides color? Because it might just be a paint job.
>>230249198 dollars per is a lot more reasonable. No one should be aiming for Games Workshop prices.
so is there something in the figs themselves like heroclix or could you just recycle the old blind box figs (or other things) with the rules?
>>23024939When EG ar like $9? sorry, this looks like a scam
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>>23024343i tried a bit of battle century g but it wasn't for me
>>23024935Ignoring color, White Dingo GMs tend to be equipped with weapons associated with ground type variations of federation MS despite looking like standard GMs, so that does appear to specifically be a White Dingo GM.
>>23024125>>23024134>Everyone is doing some combat related action>Wing Zero is just posing Is that all it takes?
>>23024940They look like plain old minis. Shpuldn't be hard to proxy unless the game has WYSIWYG rules. And if it does ignore them.
why would you buy this there's no actual gundam wargame to play it onpeople buy GW minis because warhammer *is* a fucking tabletop game that uses them. Gundam has nothing on the TTRPG space and if you want to display figurines you can just buy gunpla which are much, much better quality and size wize
>>23024967>why would you buy this there's no actual gundam wargame to play it onYeah but they're working on rules silly. Plus you could use another game like MechaStellar or some other abstract third party rules like how 40k has one page rules.
>>23024967there's already a shitton of fanmade systems and even fan-translated wargames from japan you might as well use those
>>23024967Are you ok? they're releasing the rules with the minis
>>23024967They're making a game with it. This was revealed at a game festival.>>23023805It's significantly easier than painting gunpla since it's just one piece. If you can color a coloring book page, you can paint a mini.
>>23024858https://www.gundam-gcg.com/jp/cards/Card list so far for the beta set. I think all the Zeons will be revised to green
>>23024967Some people have friends with common interests to play.
>>23024967>why would you buy this there's no actual gundam wargame to play it onIs that a trick question or?
>>23024858>$23Hahaha. Dead in the water!
>>23025126....but enough about warhammer...
>>23024858The bad English translation on this is misleadinghttps://x.com/GUNDAM_GCG_JP/status/1875679855104422254This is coming from an announcement from the Gundam Card Game and is talking about a COLLABORATION starter set with Assemble that includes 3 miniatures. It's the price of an Assemble AND GCG starter set together. GCG hasn't had real starters released yet (only a beta booster box for 7700 JPY) but standard Gundam War starter decks were about 1200-1400 so subtracting that from the price on this one can assume that three Assemble minis might be about 2000. Note that three minis is NOT said to be a starter set for Assemble anyway, the wording is is that this is a GCG starter that just includes three minis. The pics show them on round bases instead of the hexes and it doesn't mention including the Assemble rules.
>>23025126>>23024871>>23024919>>23024858Where are you retards even getting 23 USD?
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>>23025176>>>23025173 >>>23024978>>>23024500>>>23024491
>>23025179>>>23025176 >>>>23025173 >>>>23024978>>>>23024500>>>>23024491
>>23025179>>>23025176 >>>>23025173 >>>>23024978>>>>23024500>>>>23024491And this is just Gundam, there's far more if you include other IPs (pic is Dougram) or original stuff
it seems to me that if any of them were any good they would have caught on earlier
>>23024370I used to visit /tg/ and when I made comment about troons in local game stores I'd get hit with the "conservative making things up to get made at" lines but things have definitely changed over time.Maybe I was just lucky but around 2005-8 all I ever saw were dudebros and nerds. Not that it was a paradise, plenty of stinky fuckheads to go around, but at least you knew what you were dealing with.>Gundam GunPla scene is all white hipstersI thought models were just a lonely guy profession. I don't have friends so I build little dudes that make me happy.
>>23023805When two players field the same unit, it's nice to have ways to distinguish them.
>>23025186I dont think the old hex mecha games were bad per se, but from what I gather they were just reskinned Ogre. Thats my guess as to why it never became a thing. Still would love to have the Votoms Hex one someday.
>>23024572This is actually my worst fear and it seems to be leaning that way.ALL the media is about having your dream team but they only include the most popular suits and sometimes a few surprise picks so people can say "How quaint" I'd much rather build a huge grunt army with a select handful of hard hitters instead of gundams galore.Who knows, maybe the gunpla version with some house rules could let me do it, but even then I'd have to work with existing kits until I fall down the 3dprinting rabbithole.
>>23025205I could understand that but I actually think this new Gundam game would be able to carve out more of a niche if it did focus more on the heroic prototypes. Most other mecha TT games already focus on grunt-porn.
These are card starter deck themes and colours, the minis are just an added bonus. So no idea if the minis game will also follow these colours.Each deck could have two colours. Zeon is green, Neo and Zeon and ZAFT are red.
>>23025213That makes sense, but damn the only gundam fantasy I have is having an army of Virgos but it's never gonna happen
>>23025205That's an issue that comes from having twenty different unrelated timelines spread over five real-life decades.Your only two options are giving each series like 3 representations and casting a wide net like in Gundam Versus, or focusing hard on a single timeline and pissing off the people who like the other 90% of the IP - see Battle Operation 2. And only early UC really has enough depth to sustain the latter which zoomers don't care about, while I'm not even sure WFM has enough suits to even field a full game.
>>23025229>while I'm not even sure WFM has enough suits to even field a full gameThere are 26 mainline HG kits for WFM. Granted 1-2 are part sets or shit like Tickbalang but there's still more suits that haven't been touched or ones that are P-bandai only, at least 5
>>23025232Gun to my head I would have guessed under 12.
>>23025237tbf a solid 10 are grunt variationssame can be said for lfrith preproduction, aerial hg/FM, aerial rebuild
>>23025165The card decks are 12 and the ones that come with 3 minis are 35. So the remaining price of these minis in theses sets is 23.
>The new Gunpla product, Gundam Assemble, will be releasing a new collaboration product! You can play by placing them on top of the token cards used in the Gundam card game!
>>23025255I'm glad that they are trying to cross promote the games rather than have them entirely cannibalize each other. I probably still won't buy said bundles as I'm worried that the actual Assemble starter sets will make them redundant and have other things I'd need for the game.
>>23025248>The card decks are 12proof?
>>23025257>that the actual Assemble starter sets will make them redundantI mean they literally have the wrong bases and it sounds like they're used as tokens and don't actually come with the game rules
>>23023737The fuck is that nonsense part distribution?>back skirt attached to the backpack>one leg on the front skirt>the other on the torso and one arm>the other arm seperate>head in 2 pieces because????
>>23025264I'm assuming they wanted the sprue to have as few pieces as possible but also have it be as flat as possible in the packaging, and the concept of kitbashing probably never crossed their minds once so who cares how it's segmented
>>23025271To be fair, how many people realistically kitbash, let alone companies that encourage it. 40k Minis are just as static.
>>23025272Yeah but 40k sprues are mostly divided into individual limbs, so it's relatively easy to do things like rotate an arm or the waist. You are right about it not being a big deal, though.
>>23025274Would be cool though, Bandai would be smart to encoruage it. For example a Zaku 2 kit could probably evole into a Hizack or Gouf with some cleaver kitbashing. But yeah given how static theyre looking to make the models, it will be hard to pull of.
>>23025272Yep, even BT doesn't encourage franken/custom mechs anymore.Sad shit.
>>23025264Monopose kits at that scale are usually like that. GW's kits are far worse even.
>>23025274>Yeah but 40k sprues are mostly divided into individual limbsYou obviously haven't seen modern GW's character kits.
>>23025306You are correct. Damn.
>>23025307Yeah, troop kits are slightly better in the arm department but legs are usually static these days. Gone are the days of torso and legs being separate.
>>23024448>Gundam DnD>he doesn't knowThey did that a long while ago with Gundam Senki. You can find scans and translations over on /tg/ in the Mecha Monday thread in their pastebin >>>/tg/94651573
>>23024237>i love how zoomers have to rename everything because they do something they didn't know existed before them.Every generation does this, even the one you like larping as, you zoomer faggot.
>>23024125My biggest issue with this is the complete lack of terrain. I'm assuming elevation simply won't be taken into consideration.It's also only a 10x10 grid. Not much room for maneuvering, unless that Zudah's sniper rifle or the Zeong/Sazabi's psycommu stuff is limited to very few hexes or just very weak.This could also just be a mockup with no basis in gameplay, but who knows.And I do like that there's two balls in a hex and the archangel/unicorn take up multiple hexes. Probably means we're going to get more non-Suit units.
>>23025381How much of a problem could it really be? Couldn't one just work with Battletech terrain?
>>23025274>40k sprues are mostly divided into individual limbsNot modern ones, grandpa
>>23025392The point is if it's part of the rules or not. Terrain stops every game from simply being a slugfest.
>>23025381The other hexmap shown had a bunch of markers and a map layout on it, so I think that's just display.
>>23025205Hell yeah groont chads represent!On giving it more thought i do not understand why they decided to separate the mechs the way they did. They should have took a note out of western wargaming soldier sprues and came out with superior modularity for kitbashing. Soldiers have muscles(for naked arm sculpts) and folding fabric connecting the arm and leg segments, ribbed undersuit connecting the segments on space muhreens. Meaning you have to slightly resculpt that connecting detail for every variation of the leg and arm positions to create poses. But gunpla is just a rectangle connecting to a rectangle so why the fuck did they copy modern games workshop splitting? I made a quick mockup for what i think the ideal wargame sprue would look like. If you separate the upper, lower leg and feet then the pieces can be glued into any arbitrary leg pose the player wishes. And no reason to worry about sculpting muscles, crinkly fabric or power armor undersuit. I compare this to a smaller Wargames Atlantic sprue. They sell 6 copies of the small sprue to make 24 soldiers as grimdark sci-fi soldier proxies. To give you an idea of the sprues dimensions take any hg gunpla into your hands. The sprue is just slightly taller than my Hg Bael and about twice wider(if we ignore the wings). Since these things are going to be about 5 cm tall the small sprue would be like 2-3 times smaller than an entry grade RX78, with less parts and no color separation. The could sell 2-3 of these for the price of a single entry grade assuming entry grades are not a loss leader for bandai. Since the GM and Gundam are so similar they could just add a couple more parts to give options on which unit to build. The lower right parts on my theoretical sprue are belly tabs to glue unto the main torso. The main differences between the GM and G. are the head, gun and abdomen for the most part. >Ran out of space.
>>23025570The skirts could be molded unto the upper leg just fine, or alternatively the skirt pieces could be separate like the WGA heads and pouches. Since HG leg skirts are molded into a single front pieces that creates a gap whenever the model gets posed with one leg being raised up and nobody cares about it so there should not be a problem for smaller scale wargame pieces. That being said i probably overestimated the size of the gundam bits on my sprue so that would probably leave some more room for more pieces.Now many Zeon suits have bell shaped lower legs(dom, gelgoog) so the legs would have to be split like old space marine torsos(front and back split in half) this would allow for rounded shapes with a female port on both sides to insert other pieces. Same trick could be done for the Kapool body. This would stretch out the sprues for round suits but should still be far below that of an entry grade sprue by area. This would enable them to be modular enough to swap guns/heads/legs and whatever else while also having it economical enough to sell cheaply and enable army building for the player base. Monopose do simplify the sprue even more however i feel they are shooting themselves in the foot with this since many wargamers love modularity, gunpla is freedom tagline CAN be transplanted into this smaller scale. If battletech fans can deal with 8-10 dollar, pre assembled resin mechs then 3-5 dollar gundam mechs (2-3 mini sprues for the price of a Entry Grade) in plastic would be a very good selling point. Even if you would up the price per mini many people would still prefer modular, plastic Gundam artefacts as compact models. If Gundam artefacts sold out everywhere without a game attached then that proves there is a market for smaller models for collectors and modelers in addition to wargamers.
>>23025570At a certain point this just becomes even smaller HG kits, which they have done before. This is clearly going all out on the posing instead. You're not getting things like leaping, running and crouching poses they're doing with separated parts. It's like those artpla kits, the point is to sacrifice posability for form.Also as much as I personally like kits like how you've described them, they're big bump in difficulty for assembly.
>>23025409Depends on the kit. The recent refresh of Terminators for example does, meanwhile the monopose Infernus Marines do have a mix of fully separate arms and half arms with a gun bit stuck to them.
>>23024978There was a rulebook for those 1/400 PVC figures. The unit stats were an afterthought. Some units are WYWYG, so RX-78 wielding a beam rifle on its right arm had no beam saber, but that doesn't apply to the GM.Only alt sculpts with melee weapons had melee weapons on their profiles.That game system is dated of course, hopefully Gundam Assemble will have a good system.
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>>23023958>Battletech killerIf anything it'll make both sides stronger as you can use terrain and maps from either system
>>23024043I saw one of these in a game store and it was already sold before the end of the week.
>>23023958>if Bandai made a skirmish game set during the OYW with a mixture of infantry, tanks and MSOne day...
>>23023737I really hope this takes off, it would be great to see that at an FLGS, and I'm really hoping they make some MSV minis.>>23024343>>23024974Thanks for the shoutout!MechaStellar is one of several Gundam fangames out there for tabletop wargaming. There are three things that sets us apart from the rest:1. We are scale agnostic so you can use your 1/144 gunpla kits or your 1/400 gashapon mini collection. 2. The game is very dynamic, you can move shoot move and full throttle around the battlefield. There's also a momentum system that ebbs and flows in battle which can be used to save your critical units or alpha strike the enemy. 3. We expanded into SRW territory 3 years ago by adding in Super Robots and Warships like Harlock / Yamato. For those interested you can find the game rules here: https://mechastellar.com/game-downloads/>>23024978Bandai's Gundam 1/400 rules in picrel are actually a lot of fun and translated into English. I recommend people try it out, but houserule the overly fiddly rules.
>>23025791>MechaStellarSo where do you source the 1/400 scale from? I gave your site a skim and the only shop link i found was an ebay store Collector Hiro with no items in it. The links to the gashapon library has photos that look like they are from the 90's so i suspect the answer will be that they got discontinued. But i am hoping you will have a different answer
>>23025180japan really loves it's Hex and Chit games
>>23024125>no elevation>small arena>low unit countReally would have liked a wargame like 40k, with Federation, Zeon, OZ, ZAFT, etc factions.
>>23025717more competition in that space is always good Bandai at least has enough money to go toe to toe with Games Workshop if it wants to, but Catalyst Game Labs is one if not the most incompetent companies and i think any competition in their specific space will make them flaunder
The White Dingo GM is even posed like the JP box art for Rise from the Ashes. The Dreamcast is still alive, Lt. Rayer.
>>23025798If you search "Gundam 1/400" on ebay you'll find all the prepainted minis from the 2000s, it's actually a very wide range of figures. I just checked Hiro's shop, you may need to adjust your zipcode, he ships to the US but not to APO/FPO boxes unless you message him first. There are other sellers on ebay too or you can jump on mercari if you can read Japanese.
There were a few ancient Gundam wargames with miniatures. These even came in plastic or metal. https://youtu.be/SQQvjG1FasQ
>>23024343I’ve primarily been army building for games like Mobile Suit Skirmish. I’ve always wondered why Bandai never attempted to make a wargame for High Grades, since that would greatly to grunt enthusiasts and give everybody a reason to take their models off their shelves. I get why they scaled down the models for this game, but I honestly prefer the extra posability for that little extra bit of immersion. Plus, gaming tables can act as dioramas when not in use. It’s a multi-faceted way of using existing Gunpla.
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>>23025900This is about the same price as other Bandai starter decks isn't it? Good. Yugioh starter decks are about the same price, although with those I know a lot of people will buy three of them to get duplicates of the better cards.
>>23025607I feel the same way. Ultimately I'll be able to grab a trillion 3D prints of GMs in every pose imaginable later on if I really need that variety for an army.
>>23025841I don't think that the nipponese have the table space for that stuff. I imagine that this game will fit on the tables that are already being used for card games.
Anyone know what the hex size might be? Thinking of asking a friend to make some hexes to transfer the minis that come with that starter decks for the tcgs to
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>>23023853I'm more bothered by the price. Why do three of these little things cost more than the static figures with decent color separation than Bandai has been putting out for a while now?
>>23024125Why are ships even in the game if they are so wildly out of scale and the playfield doesn't even seem big enough to full scale battles?
>>23027060Because most gundam engagements are almost entirely "Gundam Protects Ship thats 2 inches to the left from enemy forces". Its a staple of the franchise.
>>23024060>>23025205>>23025570Total grunt domination is needed
>>23025306What the fuck are those feet? Why are there gaps between them like platform shoes, looks awful.
>>23027101By that logic can we assume they essentially won't contribute to the battle in any meaningful way?
>>23025180why the fuck all war games have these tiny paper squares? one open window it's hours of game lost
>>23027519>fa/tg/uys ever needing to open a window
this guy did NOT thin his paints
>>23024134I only now noticed there are two GMs in this image. As far as I can tell, they're exactly the same, just with the shield arm swapped and beam spray gun vs saber.We also see a regular Zaku II here, and Char's Zaku in >>23024125. As far as I remember, Char's Zaku is physically identical to a regular one plus the antenna. What does that imply? Are we getting multiple poses for each suit? Different models for different loadouts? Do grunt suits maybe come in a bundle, like buying a squad of marines in 40k?
>>23027637What the hell, is this not primed?
>>23025264>>head in 2 pieces because????So you can paint the eyes in without a microscope you giant cum chugging pedophile
>>23027400Not defending primaris aesthetics but platforms and high heels on power armor/mecha is so good.>>23027686There's also images of two different char/amuro models. In fact, these poses are similar enough that I wouldn't be shocked if it was a weapon choice.
>>23027686>exactly the same???Did you even look at them?The one with the beam saber doesn't even have its feet on the ground the poses are different. They're 2 completely different models.
>>23027745I meant that they're both RGM-79 GM mobile suits, meaning there's at least two different poses for the same exact mobile suit. And >>23027737 confirms that, presumably, some sprus will come with multiple weapon choices.It begs the question why they decided to make two different models for the RGM-79 for the game's launch. And also why they made two Zaku II models (one being Char's).
>>23027750Oh, and the Gundam also seems to have two poses as well.Maybe EVERY suit has two poses? One for melee and one for shooting, with the latter coming with different loadout options?
>>23027757>One for melee and one for shooting, with the latter coming with different loadout options?That's how the old gankore game worked, RX-78 with beam rifle had no saber and RX-78 with saber had no rifle
>>23027737The Char's Zakus do share parts. The only difference is the right arm.All the other minis are distinct sculpts.
>>23027750Grunt units will most probably come in twos or threes alongside hero units, so it makes sense to differentiate them a little bit. May also be efficient for them to set up the grunt runners to have enough parts for two suits with weapon options etc.
>>23026304Ooooh… I didn’t even think about it that way. Yeah, space limitations would really kill HG-sized games.
This will either take off in a huge way and change the way Bandai looks at it's plamo division or they'll completely fuck it up, then forget it ever existed.
>>23028023I'm getting a little Zudah model so either way good work Bandai
>>23028023This sort of game will usually have a year or so's releases planned out in advance, so outside of it entirely faceplanting on release and failing to sell at all we should get a several waves of stuff. Whether or not it gets enough traction to persist in the market / justify further expansions remains to be seen & depends on both how good the game itself actually is and how easy it is to actually acquire. Lots of ostensibly good games die because of poor release cadence or trouble in the distribution network.
>>23028139>poor release cadenceReminds me of how nobody wants to release their games at the same time at GTA6 because they know it'll be buried alive
>>23028139>depends on both how good the game itself actually isI genuinely doubt anyone will really give a fuck about the game itself. If it's good it'll help but warhammer, the tabletop game, is a total mess of rules which constantly change and are homeruled on the fly and the majority of players don't care. They just want the minis.>how easy it is to actually acquireUnless Bandai dedicate a bunch of room in their printing schedule, it's probably going to be a nightmare to get a hold of. Gunpla stock still hasn't recovered since COVID.
>>23028197I was reflecting more upon how some promising miniature games withered and died because no-one could get enough product, or the gap between the initial release & the first wave of expansion content was so long that all enthusiasm & momentum for the game had evaporated.>>23028206See, this is where I disagree. This will all live and die on how good the game actually is. The people who want gunpla for modelling purposes already have a superior product available without all the trappings and compromises required to make the minis game-friendly. Why shell out for some silly small minis (which are barely posable!) when you can get a 1/144 or two?With regards to how easy it is to acquire, I meant more in terms of how easily/reliably stores will be able to get stock. No-one will carry it if they can't reliably keep it in stock. I'd like to think that if Bandai are announcing this, they've got the production side stuff all squared away.
>>23028227Bandai should make a deal with DeAgostini to publish a magazine with their miniatures or kits like how Games Workshop and Italeri did.
>>23028227>Why shell out for some silly small minisThere's a pretty staggeringly large non-gunpla gundam market. Granted, these are things like blind bags and action figures and sofubi and whatever else, but gunpla does not compete with other gundam products. GW themselves are only just now learning that selling an action figure does not mean -1 tactical marines box sale.
>>23028246Given how successful/dangerous the LoTR magazine was back in the day, this could actually work. First issue gives you the board, cardboard chits for a number of units, as well as the runners for the RX-78 & Char's Zaku. If you want to push the boat out, include some small paint pots too. Each subsequent issue then gives you a new suit & backstory, a scenario featuring it etc etc.>>23028247You are entirely right, I just don't think the market for this product (a boardgame/wargame using unpainted/unassembled minis) would draw from the non-gunpla crowd. I'd be very happy to be wrong, mind you, as something like this (carrying a recognisable IP, made by a well-established company) could gain traction on the market.
>>23024572F
You know the funniest thing about this is that white already has a rep of being a bitch to paint in the tabletop community so gonna be interesting to see how it goes when so many units are white.
>>23028272Just airbrush Mr. Color MS White. That's what I do with my regular Gunpla.
>>23028272I posted similar over on the /tg/ thread, but the solution from my experience is you prime in a light grey, do a layer or two of a very light/near white, with a final highlight of 'pure' white. It does take time to get right, so this guy >>23028274 may be onto a winner if you like airbrushing.
>>23028272Just get yourself some white ink
>>23028280*light grey/near white.
>>23024948>>23024935Literally referencing the box art.
>>23028274>>23028280GSI even make a white surfacer for the purpose, in both lacquer and acrylic.Oh speaking of, this is going to be great for their Aqueous line. People use a mixture of stuff in scale modelling and gunpla but acrylics are far and away the popular choice for wargame minis. I certainly won't be complaining if it means Mr Hobby halfway as accessible as Citadel.
>>23023823don't forget your 1/144 ships to go along with it
>>23027519real wargammers don't need toys to show what their units are
>>23028383If they sold this I would buy it.
>>23023740Unfortunately Warhammer fanboys have an unrivaled ability to eat shit with a smile. I say this as someone whose played 40k for 30 years.>>23023742Yeah, the focus on Hero mechs only is disappointing. I'd rather they do squads of MP bots led by Gundams .If they were gonna do a "hero mech only" tabletop game I'd prefer Super Robot Wars.
>>23023962What happened is that they took a player hit from a 2nd edition transition and then Asmodee fucked everything by deciding that they'd reorg the companies they bought up so all miniatures games would be produced by Atomic Mass and all RPGs would be produced by EDGE. The X-wing designers were suddenly expected to move halfway across the country to work at a company preoccupied with Marvel:Crisis Protocol headquartered in a town with three times the COL and understanably quit.
>>23023963>>23023965What happened is that when the game launched it was super easy to find the ships online for 30 to 40% off, so they'd be MSRP $15 but really people were paying $9 and only needed three or four ships for their squad. Then FFG/Asmodee put rules into place that they'd no longer sell to stores selling below 20% MSRP, and then a year later jacked the price per ship up to $20. Which is a big part of why 2nd edition floundered.
>>23024035Probably require you to have cards that come bundled with the mini in order to play in tournaments.Five dollars for paper essentially.
>>23024125>>23024134>>23024060I'm going to predict that the final product will use hexprinted versions of the Kill Team gameboards since I've seen them popping up in other non-GW skirmish games. If this game uses 30mm hexes that gives an 18 by 25 playspace or 25 by 36 if you place them together.Also, the d10s, the apparent ranges, and the relative scale of spaceships to Gundam is giving me serious Mekton vibes. Would not be surprised if Mike Pondsmith is named as a designer.
>>23029675>Yeah, the focus on Hero mechs only is disappointing. I'd rather they do squads of MP bots led by Gundams .>If they were gonna do a "hero mech only" tabletop game I'd prefer Super Robot Wars.A hundred times this and this
>>23024281The sad thing is that in my area Necromunda acts as a big filter. They all play Escher and they all have the shittiest paintjobs imaginable.
>>23024290With any luck it might be like X-wing where you can choose between ace pilots and grunts. So technically a "Hero" game but in practice you get one Darth Vader and five Academy Pilots.
>>23024448Best option is to dig up a copy of Mekton Zeta/Mekton Zeta Plus at a used bookstore. Mekton II was the basis for Gundam Senki I believe and the scale assumptions for Mekton are heavily tilted towards Gundam sizes.
>>23025205And then it'll wind up like Marvel Crisis Protocol or Star Wars Legion where there's a huge 3d printing community because even when your favorite hero gets a mini half the time they have them in an awful modern outfit rather than the classic look.
>>23029675>>23029715What do you mean hero mechs only? There's already multiple poses of zakus and gms, balls and a damn mobile worker.While it's not going to be a big army wargame there's already a bunch of grunts being shown off next to the top dog popular hero mechs.
>>23029795Obviously they're going to include some grunts. The suits are too popular not to.But there's a fundamental difference between a hero focus like in Gundam Vs and a grunt focus like in Battle Operation.
>>23023808>>23023889Just to put it out there, Gundams typically have large flat panels that look terrible with contrast paints unless you use the single pigment kind. I'd go with Army Painter Speedpaint 2.0 except for yellow, which I'd suggest Contrast Imperial Fist.Best color matches I can think of:Yellow: Contrast Imperial FistGundam Red: Speedpaint Bright RedGundam Blue: Speedpaint Magic BlueDarker Gundam colors for SEED I'd recommend Slaughter Red and Highlord Blue. Make sure to get the 2.0 bottles where the back of the label shows spraycans and ball bearings (1.0 only shows ball bearings)Not sure what to use for Zakus yet. Neither Contrast nor Speedpaint have single pigment olive greens. Best I can think of is Algae Green as a base and then paint over any blotches with Army Green. Carmine Dragon or Goddess Glow for Char.
>>23024612The monetization was retarded. They locked new characters behind either paying real money or grinding battle passes for enough currency to unlock them. This meant that even if you no lifed the game you would never have the full roster unless you paid up. Contrast this with OW2 where there are battle pass locked characters but you can get them via completing challenge missions, or Marvel Rivals that says all future characters will be free and unlocked forever.Not to mention most of the skins looking either hideous or not worth spending money on otherwise, and many only unlockable behind a currency you can only get via gacha duplicates. One of those was Char's Zaku, and people not familiar with Gundam think that's literally just a red Zaku that's being sold at an insane price.It's a shame because the game was fun, and like the other guy said it basically solved the main character syndrome of roles that continue to plague hero shooters to this day. ("No, you play Healer/Tank, I want to be DPS")
>>23030099What Marvel Rivals is doing is "Pay to get them to look like the comics". This is most blatant with Wolverine where his default costume in the game is a yellow and blue jacket he's never worn (He either wears a yellow and blue hooded costume or a brown leather jacket.) Also apparent with the Fantastic Four where they're wearing white with blue trim instead of blue with white trim, even though it makes Susan look almost identical to Dagger.
>>23023737its not actually much of a war game, maybe a skirmish gamelike i'm not seeing the goal to be having dozens of zakus on the field
>>23024858the quality of plastic is far different from what gunpla builders are used tobeing a table to game they use a harder plastic that can stand being hit by dice or falling over to an extent. where gunpla are made for display and just might shatter entirely if they even touch the groundalso they are probably taking notes from industry standards in the market to where a single dude can cost a lotGWS obviously sells at a premium but you can find other war game makers selling a single mini for a high price
>>23030468>can stand being hit by dice>>23030468>gunpla are made for display and just might shatter entirely if they even touch the ground
>>23030473?
>>23030468Anon I have knocked the same poor 30 Minute Missions grunt flying off my display space three times and it hasn't even let go of its precariously positioned mid-throw mine pose.
>>23030450It looks like they're aiming for the casual/TCG market where you can play a game on a table meant for a card game.That being said, I can't imagine not being able to scale up the model counts, unless the system is really jank.
>>23030925You'd hope they don't need it, but there's always the potential of doing the Battletech thing too. CBT is cool and all but it slows to a crawl if you're managing more than a lance or so per player. One of the big draws of Alpha Strike is that the streamlined rules make larger combined arms battles way more enjoyable for the average 1v1.
>>23029703there are no fucking cards.that's a separate game. there's just one bundle selling both at once
Aren't these kinda just those static shokugan/gashapon figures but in model kit format?
>>23031243That's basically what miniatures are. The big plus is that they're not gummy plastic or already thickly prepainted.
>>23028404Being a puckster sucked ass. Units did not know how to to give proper coordinates for call for fire
>>23030875i've built both 30 minute missions and high grades and 30 minute missions are surprisingly very poseable and sturdymaybe some newer HGs are less delicate these day but i've had an antenna or two snap on me from just falling
are wargames and miniature based games just not popular in japan? you'd think they would be but i've never heard them having any franchises based around that
>>23032026The average Japan living space is a postage stamp, and the average Japan retail space is a certified mail postage stamp. They just don't have the table area for minis games.
>>23032022I've certainly not had any fragility issues on my modern HGs of note. Only major breakage I've had was on a reissue of one of the original Seed MSV kits, the Strike Rouge with the IWSP or whatever. Knocked it flying and one of the engine nacelle/wing units snapped off, but it was a clean snap across a single connector. Cemented it back on and it's as good as new, probably better actually.I've had some issues with construction fragility, like I'm pretty sure my Zeta revive is a strong breeze away from falling apart, but never unexpected parts fragility.
>>23030468Both GW and gunpla (large majority of parts) are polystyrene. You're fucking retarded.Also, changing the type of polymer isn't going to have any impact on costs. They're all going to be close enough in $/ton that it washes out.
I got a RX-93 gundam 2 months ago and i enjoyed constructing it. I was thinking about getting some more after i finished the original series 2 days ago and started watching Z. What should i be careful about when choosing what gunpla to buy? I felt like this model was not too simple and had enough extra parts to use. I was looking at either getting the HGUC Zeta Gundam - Gunpla Evolution Project and XGF-02 Gundam Lfrith or the HUCKEBEIN Mk-III. I know its a matter of personal preference when i comes to how the models look but i am asking in terms of other stuff i might need to know. Also, sorry if its offtopic
>>23032842Well depending on which RX-93 you got your next gunpla can depend on how much effort you're willing to put on. Also depends on what scale you're interested in. Personally I "worked" my way up doing many HGs to gain experience and now doing exclusively 1/100 scale baring some exceptions. >HGTake about a day or so to construct, but much larger kits such as a Kshatryia can take a couple. >MG/RE100/Full MechanicsMuch more in-depth than a HG with a larger piece count and more gimmicks. Generally I feel anything after 2004 can be done straight out of the box without too much work. Not saying that anything before 2004 is shit (example being Z'Gok), but you might need to fix some seamlines or color-correct, which is something more modern MGs have fixed. >RGLike mini MGs. Again, people say models before Unicorn are shit but personally I think it's people who rush things and don't take time to properly remove nubs and put together pieces improperly. >PGI haven't built one yet but I have one waiting after I'm done with my MGs. People have strong opinions on kits but I feel there are no genuinely bad kits like it was in the 90s. A lot of issues can be fixed with simple fixes like adding some glue or careful handling. It would also help to get a glass file which helps remove nub marks quickly. I have built the Lfrith but don't have it anymore. One thing I remember though was it needed some pink to color correct for its legs.
