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>>23057409!!!
stop this foolishness
U SIGGEN ME DDDDD:
>>23057503i AM argebus DDD:<
Are you a Wanwan or a BOWWOW?
>>23057503damn i was about to post itglad people like my shitposts
>>23057545that's what communities are built on
Anyone have that pic of a loli living in a Cradle waving at Old King's NEXT?
>>23057736I thought I had imagined that pic existing. This is the closest I could find
>>23057772BITCHsdarva
:)
>The Chicken Shack>The Cock Box>Baba Yaga's House>Foul Play>Bantam Pain>Shitkicker>Hotstepper>Wick's Apartment>Junk Trunk
>>23057779
>>23057881
>>23057878Reverse joints make everything better, even the shitbox that is Basho.
>>23057894I unironically love this big, chunky metal coffin. It's a weirdly sensible design.
Be real with me niggas, are we ever getting an expansion to AC6?
>>23057979Already got one, it's called AC6 Armoury.
>>23057979Maybe the real expansion was all the Ravens we met along the way?
>>23058012>Right hand melee
>>23058015Artist is some fujoshit, didn't even play the game probably.
>>23058015are the weapons all switched around? maybe anon mirrored the art by accident
>>23058034it's how it is in the originalhttps://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/123306484
>>23058043oh, i think i get why it's like that. if ORTUS is holding up the needle pistol where its supposed to then it'd block its whole torsothey must've drawn BARREN FLOWER first and didn't realize they fucked themselves over
>>23057904Not that anon but it also grew on me.
>>23057904I like those proportions more than the in game one.
>>23057503RUBIGONIAN ABES DDDDDDD--------:<<<<<<<<
>>23057878BANTAM PAIN actually rules as an AC name, hurry up and use it somewhere>>23057904>>23058093it's nice that the core part is a nice blend between traditional heavy and medium core aestheticsthe legs are the real part that looks outdated, that one is ridiculously hard to mix with other frame parts.>>23058108it's mostly the arms that are different right? people would definitely oppose them less fashion-wise if they were longer.
>>23058322what's the justification for AC's being so much more durable than MT quads?
>>23058349Quality and cost, I guess. I always assumed the higher MTs were made of cheaper stuff. Maybe not thinner armor but weaker bolts/welds etc.
>>23058027That explains those fatass legs.
Help me out, Ravens. I wonder which booster to pick: I've been using Gridwalker for the upward thrust but discovered it's ideal weight (60,900) is far below mine (ca. 740,000). I've been trying the P06SPD since it's ideal weight (760,000) fits almost perfectly (Only Fluegel would be better and I don't like it's looks) Giving me a much quicker machine with particularly quicker QBs and ABs. I am therefore certain it's the best choice for PvE. I however wonder if in terms of PvP particularly rat-catching upward thrust is much more important. I always try to make well-rounded ACs suited for all situations.What are your experiences? What would you pick?On a different note: HOKUSHI or MING-TANG?
>>23058522>screwed up the numbers.Haha, that's just a refernce to Allmind being a girl failure. I did that on purpose to be funny, guys haha.
>>23058369Welded by a malnourished rubiconian high on Coral who got no sleep because he spent the night crying and dronking tp cope with the fact that his wife and daughter got taken to arquebus camps for who knows what purpose
>>23058349>>23058369CORE THEORYNo but really, the real reason ACs are tougher then MTs is because they can repair themselves with some fancy hyper advanced nanomachine tech. Tetrapod MTs are tougher then an AC but you never see them heal themselves. Imagine if every single MT in the game had 3 heal drops, suddenly the game got a whole lot harder.
>>23058563also ACs are supposed to automatically angle themselves minimize damage from shots and making them glance off. Though I think this is represented by the posture system which MTs also have
>>23058522I think hokushi with your weight. Ming tai would put you over. Or maybe I’m getting them mixed up.
>>23057772damn wish you could actually melee w/ guns like in the trailer for ac4
>>23058522SPD is sort of a trap since its specialization is normal boost speed when you really want QB or AB or other specialized stats for combat proficiencyas for generator if you want rat catching >we have to go into a bit of a tangentone half of rat catching tactics is developing a weapons setup than can function with its heavy weapons purged for the speed boostthe other half of it is optimizing around AB shuffle boosting, which combines your AB and QB speed to achieve the fastest possible speed your AC can reach outside of falling speed. it's a really fuel-intensive mode of movement with all the QBs so it can be called the "true overboost" of AC6. as such, to counteract all the fuel you're pissing you want to pick out generators with a shitton of capacity. therefore the real generator choice for rat-catching is to optimize around going fast with SAN-TAI equipped but the main idea is staying in QB shuffle mode for as long as possible no matter what generator/booster combo you're using
>>23058349>what's the justification for AC's being so much more durable than MT quads?maybe i'm biased as a biped-only fag but in some ways they aren'ton my first time trying to S-rank destroy the transport helicopters i freaked out when the quad MT tanked a raw charged pile bunker hit without even getting stunned
>>23057904The head rules.
>>23058760It's literally a Highlander from Battletech
>>23058763Damn big chunky visor heads are cool. Reminds me of the Recten. I might have to get a mini of the Highlander now.
>>23058766with so many good choices, you posted the only ugly design from G-reco
>>23058763I dont think BT invented brick heads
>>23058771no, but BASHO is overall extremely similar
>>23058566Everything has ACS, which makes sense enough. It shouldn't be possible for the pilot to micromanage the mech's balance on all terrains by themselves. The reason why MTs your AC's size have much shittier ACS than you is most likely because they are not really made for getting hit in mind, just to allow the MT to keep straight while shooting.
>>23058522Going over ideal weight isn't necessarily a bad thing. If you're ever using reverse joints then you've seen how far your boots go on the ground, but you don't go as far in the air. 1.30 is how long it takes to land after a reverse joints quickboost. Some RJs take the gridwalkers and intentionally go overweight to get their QB delay to exactly 1.30 or slightly over. You'll see it on some kite builds, they minmax their mobility like that since RJs don't need rapid quickboost and become real hard to catch.
what's the point of yaba
>>23058935i haven't looked at the stats but it feels safer to redline than the HOKUSHIalso lighter
>>23058935Yaba dabba doo!
>>23058935The EN output stat is effectively the EN version of your load limit. So if your build does not exceed Yabba's EN output then why not shave off that weight?
>>23058935discount coral genit has a red top for a good reason
>>23058963Excess load is useless.Excess EN output is very good, which is why Hokushi is strong.
I wish I could quickboost straight up or down.
>>23059161Eh. As much as i would like to essentially double jump or quick jump that would just invite more RATs.
>>23059173But I had more mobility I could catch them. I could catch anything. I need the speed. I need omnidirectionality or I'll never be free. Also I wanna quick-descend to instantly hit the ground, that'd be fun.
>>23059191>>23059161I don't think there have been things like that in any AC games.
>>23059193In gen 5 you could boost-kick into the ground.
>>23059203I see, I haven't played gen 3 to gen 5 yet.
What are anons stances on Silent Line and Last Raven? I am still on my way to S ranking all missions in Last Raven and I cant decide which of the two games I like more. They feel very different in pretty much every way to me.
>>23059267I feel similarly about them, SL might win out due to mission variety and OST though.
Am I retarded, or are the weapon choices in 3 kinda bad, at least the shop ones? Not to say there isn't variety, but a lot seem mediocre compared to store choices in the previous gens.
>Three sets of tank legs>Three sets of quad legs>Three sets of reverse joints>Thirteen sets of bipeds
>>23059334Yeah that's the correct ratio of boring biped rifle/machinegun users vs other legs.
>>23059267>gameplaySL > LR>storyLR > SL>ostSL > LR>fashionLR > SL>charactersLR > SL>missionsSL > LR>arenaLR > SL
>>23059357Very much correct and factual. I would like to add that while LR's arena is better overall SL has the advantage of integrating it's cast into the story with entries disappearing when they die in a mission. I always thought that was pretty cool.I really hope they bring back the system of progressing the story despite failing the mission in AC7 or whatever comes next. More endings, parts and missions would also always be cool as long as they keep it polished. That would basically be my perfect AC game.
>>23059314Pretty much this, I honestly might just have SL win out because my favorite weapons feel better to use.>>23059357Pretty good, but I would switch the arena around. I found LR arena to be painfully easy except the #1 while SL was a decent challenge throughout and it also helps arena was more connected to the story than it is in LR.It annoys me that you cant fail missions on LR I dont think it would be that hard to have another line of missions that is just for failures that results in a bad ending, but I guess that might be too punishing.Another thing thats annoying is the part damage system. I think I lost 1 part so far and maybe killed 1-2 AC enemies by blowing up their core. It sounds so cool in theory, but is a let down in reality. Maybe I just had too high expectations hearing about it. Other people can probably use it to their advantage I am just too retarded to be able to aim for specific parts on an enemy I guess.
>>23059357>gameplay>SL > LRno i can't agree, i feel you let your idea of gameplay be influenced by weapon balance and meta, instead of being objective about controls and gameplay elementscontrols and factual gameplay is better in LR and not up to debatenow if i where to say something on weapon balance itself 2AA > SL > LRfor the rest well i suppose it's subjective
>>23059507LR controls are like ass, touching anything completely kills your speed and the balance is the worst its ever been. What are you even on about?
>>23059507I put it like that because I really don't like Nexus heating mechanics and LR carries it over, which from my perspective downgrades LR gameplay significantly. To me it just sucks out a big chunk of enjoyment from movement and energy managment. Mind you I probably played LR more than any other oldgen AC, beat all missions, got all endings, so I feel like I am entitled to my opinion.
>>23059553
>>23059600what's wrong with it? i never really have any issue with heating outside of gen2
>>23059609Nexus heat is awful, it was my maint complaint about the game
>>23059620what's wrong with it?
>>23059625You have no actual choice since most gen/booster/rad combos are dogshit in both nexus and LR
>>23059609Well maybe it's a me problem, but I find Nexus heating too curbestone, "breaking the flow", so to say. Don't like how overbearing it feels, everything constantly heating you, boosting, getting hit, especially when fighting multiple enemies, just find it annoying.
>>23059628that's simply wrong>>23059630unless you OB with a lightweight for too long you shouldn't overheat that easilyi'm calling build issue on both of you
>>23059644You must be delusional if you somehow think that the worst balanced game in the series doesnt have an issue. But please, enlighten me what combo do you use.
>>23059644Well I dunno maybe but I beat every pulverizer, Zinaida and pretty much everything there is in LR using several different builds in the process so I think I can handle heating more or less, I still found it annoying.
go shitpost somewhere elseshoo
>being correct is shitposting nowyou dont belong here
are you retards for real? heat while arguably not a fun mechanic is perfectly fine as it is, it's a mean to balance toward midweights so lightweights arn't the only viable thinggranted second gen had too much weapon heat damage for it to work well but outside of that it's fine
>>23059665>hur dur i build ultra lightweight with no cooling but somehow it's the game's fault if i overheatway to out yourself as a poser that never played the game, i'll never get why people lie on the internet
>spike in posts>it's shitposts againvery organic, totally subtle
Heated debate
>>23059694I'd be glad to see your build, anon. Maybe I can improve mine with your wisdom.
>choosing a mechanic that exist since AC2 and across 7 games to nitpick oni don't miss it but it shouldn't be an issue if you're not retarded
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/bgOOVGhttps://www.artstation.com/artwork/bgOm9Ghttps://www.artstation.com/artwork/RKXl3vhttps://www.artstation.com/artwork/Gv2g04
>>23059723as if a screenshot would mean anything, anyone can download a completed save off internetif anything you'd prove even a retard can 135% LRhow do you manage to have this little mobility on a light build, how do you have issues with cooling when you have this much cooling and underpowered boosters, you're definitely doing something wrong
>>23059740Because it's not a light build, it's a medium build? Do you not know the difference between the two? These are medium legs with biggest max leg weight so I can carry all the big guns. It's also slow because it uses boosters with less heating and less energy consumption. If I used faster boosters it would have bad heating because that's just how boosters are in LR. Once again anon, I can handle heating and make builds around it, I just personally find it annoying. The fact that you don't understand any of these things and also won't post your own build makes me think that it is you who in fact, did not play the game and is just a baiting shitposter.
>>23059739HOLY SHIT HE HAS THE OTHER BALAM ACsLET'S FUCKING GOOOOO
>>23059723not that guy but i have to agree with the build part, i have B cooling and never overheatalso more defences for less weight for similar firepower
>>23059786you're just a massive sperg for picking an argument on a non issueit's just that, nothing more
>shitposter was just in fact local retardi mean, getting a save from internet and going as far as running LR and making a build and screenshots seems to much effort for a shitpost
>>23058027The artist did well.
>>23058349>>23058369Composite metamaterial hyperdeflective pulse-vibrating armor passively using sparse coral coating, probably
>>23059193Gen 3 extension boosters
>>23059789Shit anon, very solid build, I kneel. I also used this one for MT fodder, it's a bit more closer to yours but not as well-rounded. What internals do you use?>>23059793>still no buildBad shitposter, very bad.
>>23059739really like the fat biped in general but why did he make the head so fucking tiny, looks so goofy
>>23059827Because it makes the rest of the body look bigger. This is basic proportions anon.
>>23059845no it just makes it look fucking retarded
>>23059739>Shrieker arms look like gen3 onesPretty cool.
>>23059823>What internals do you useCR-G91 and CR-R92 and a medusa decoyalso CR-B83TP boosters, but legs and choice of missiles and extensions is what i'd change in your build, i mean you don't need that much missiles, you're way too heavy , also you use an hanger core without using any hanger weaponbut again, i have to agree with the other guy, overheat is a weird nitpick to have
Someone made a shrieker mod for AC6, looks nice
>>23059861it's just a NACHTREIHER kitbash
621 and Rusty
>>23059856>CR-G91 and CR-R92I use same generator but different, radiator, I'll try yours. I know it's a bit heavy and the mobility could be improved, the idea was to have a middleweight build that can cram as much ammo as possible, just in case.>overheat is a weird nitpick to haveIdk anon, can't help it. Everyone have their own nitpicks, that one is mine I guess.
i'm not sure what sula looks like in my mind
>>23059856How is it a nitpick when it kills build variety? Literally everyone runs the same 2 boosters with the same 2 generators with the same 2 radiators, and its only made worse by the fact that speed is king in last raven
>>23059913I feel like Sulla would look more stressed idk
>>23059903>the idea was to have a middleweight build that can cram as much ammo as possible, just in case.then if you stay on a hanger core, drop a missile launcher, drop the rifle (it's not bad, actually very good rifle, just not adapted for the purpose), equip the ROC4 and use in hanger the CR-WH01HP>>23059920that's a terrible argument, first off it's not that limiting, and the biggest factor for building is weapons and legs, if LR had good back weapons other than missiles you'd see a lot more heavies and quads, anyway there will always be a meta (most efficient tactic available)and that's ignoring some of the best builds in LR are actually midweights to accommodate a good enough generator to run laser weapons
The FCS jammer rockets in 3 are so fun, a good portion of the enemies just don't know what to do when you hit them with those.
>>23059945The core is just for fashion actually, I mostly used CR-C89E and only switched after I was pretty much done with the game. But yeah you're right, it makes more sense to drop some weight for hangar handguns, I know they are OP in LR.
>>23059951just wait until you get the CROW extention in silent line
>>23059970laser OE do fine to clear MTs, in that case you can keep the rifle and shouldn't have ammo issues, in fact i keep a missile launcher mostly for flying enemies or when the enemy get too far, and end up not using it most of the timebut your biggest problem outside the redundant missiles is the legs, in your weight class there's cougar2 that outclass them among othersand i don't know what booster you use but you should consider CR-B83TP or B03-VULTURE2
ALLMIND
>>23060025do not the cat
>>23060006>CR-B83TPI was switching between these and CR-B81 in case mission required some flying. Never tried VULTURE2.
>>23060034I WILL the Cat. And the Dog. And the Wolf. And the
>>23059854it looks like a medium arm, which is kinda strange for a lightweight-looking AC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrDt9a0q3P0What they insert into your brain at reeducation camps. Walter had this running in his head while fighting 621.
>>23059913Guy survived 1st gen augmentation. He should look kinda rough.
Currently continuing my playthrough of this series. Just cheesed Matthias so I can finally go to Another Age. You don't actually need to defeat him to get 100% achievement, and I only aware of that after cheesing him.Now my question, if I want to play all AC3 by continuing my save file, do I play the PS2 or the PSP? I heard the PSP version improved a lot of things. Or am I wrong?
Just finished building the Armored Core VI Steel Haze 30 minute missions model, was a lot of fun. Are there any other models from other franchises that fit Armored Core's sleek military aesthetic? Unfamiliar with mecha outside of it.
>>23060450Look up kotobukiya hexagear kits
>>23060446Why PSP AC versions are inferior to PS2 versions:- Half the framerate, 30 vs 60- Less available buttons, unwieldly controls - No dedicated "Inside" button in LRp - No dedicated dual-stick controls in LRp- Mechanics tied to framerate don't work as intended (cooling, aiming, missile tracking, etc)- Lockbox mechanics broken - Sizes are smaller than intended, with extremely small sizes in LRp - Lockbox is thinner than intended, visually hard to identify when upscaling- Changed AI, making many encounters different from what was intended originally- Massively downgraded visuals - Texture quality significantly lowered, models are reworked to be much lower poly - Most lighting effects broken - Areas appear grey, washed out - Most misc. effects removed- Ported from 4:3 to 16:9 screen, camera works significantly different than intended - Screen is shifted up and out with a much wider FOV - Size of scale is different, player and enemies appear much smaller - Camera is significantly looser than intended - Player AC no longer stays in camera focus, enemies often leave the camera as well
>>23060489I see, so I should stick with PS2 then.
>>23060450Metal Gear Rex
>>23060450Gundam
>>23059913cute entangle, would pat
>>23060025>>23060044Nyaalmind
>>23059913Those are some big hands, even for yaoi standards.
FUCK AYRE
>>23059847i always put kasuar head on tian-qiang core when i can because it looks funny and you can't stop me
I am a simple man. Better legs, better rifle, better missiles, extra gun, better internals. Done.Also I don't think it works so good in PvP but in PvE? Pulse blade into stagger into rj boost kick into charged Harris shot.
>>23059861It's been out for a while hasn't it
Wonder how come nobody has made a mod or something to transfer all the parts from the psp games to the ps2 ones
>>23060727Wish i could
>>23059739hmmit's all headcanon of a 6only butthese kinda brought the balam-dafeng situation together in my headthe two fat ones are balam's pre-merger heavy versions of melander framethe flat head got offloaded onto dafeng when they were making their own acarmored melander arms became tian-lao, which explains why they both look like and have the stats more like fat melanders and less like armored t-qthick biped got retired in favour of the new t-qthick quad got retired as it used thick biped components and was generally slow (it moves like a baws tetrapod), then after a while verrill was made out of two pairs of melanders glued together and worked out well enough to be put into production to replace itthe cores on both fat ones are melanders but not modern melanders, probably the c1 model (modern base melander is c2 and iguazu got himself a prototype c3 because he's a very special boy)the lightweight rj explains why balam needed dafeng to develop ling-tai, probably previous ac generation that has been retired since to unify the model lineand bornemisza would be the last remnant of that time that didn't either migrate to dafeng or get retired
>>23060489More content tho
>>23060845That would be the tits.
>>23060845technically the PSP models/textures are at a lower quality so a straight port would not be good
>>23061112I can't decide on which proportions I prefer
>>23061112I mean it would be better than nothing at least just for the newly added stuff.
>>23061114a mix would be ideal, i thinkthe starter AC looks better as a chunky guy, but the head should be as small as the PS2 version
Well lads, I just wanted to make a rootin tootin cowboy shootin AC in Last Raven and realized, you cant equip the same weapon in your backup if you have it already normally equipped. Meaning no 4 revolver AC for me. Feels bad.
>>23061203the ROC4 miniature pulse rifle look like a handgunyou could also get a left hand shotgun
>>23061251I should look into that. Double shotty aint such a bad choice. Most likely im going to stop playing AC for a bit since i just saw that Ninja Gaiden 4 got announced and NG2 Black got shadowdropped on steam.
>>23061203Isn't there an AC in that game that has FINGERs as both main and hangar units?
>>23059739I want all of these addes to 6 yesterday. Especially the second one, love this chunky motherfucker. The quad actually reminds me a little bit of the heavyweight parts from V and VD.
>>23061266nha, substitute sleep for more game time
>>23061275But anon i already sleep like shit, please i need my life back
>>23061280same brother, samenow you could have a day for a specific vidia, i always do at least one MHFU hunt on weekends
>>23061284The issue is that I already have a gaming week planned out. I recently started playing Tri for the first time with a couple of nippon players ive played monhun with for years now. For the first time in forever I actually need to plan out what to play.
>>23061287living the dream i see, i'm a bit jealous
>>23061292well, i try to not be so smug, but today life is good. I still suck ass at armored core though
>>23061266>NG2 Black got shadowdropped on steamreally?
>>23061387Oh...I will continue emulating then.
>>23061392So they legit just fucking lied, ninja gaiden fans aren't allowed to have anything good
>>23060844Few weeks maybe, it's relatively new
>>23061392I dont know why people are making these shit reviews when the game is clearly a mix of vanilla + sigma, far closer to vanilla in terms of enemies. You could have found all this out by just READING that store page
Got denied A rank again. Next time.
>>23061503what mission what build
>>23061518I mean PvP. I S ranked everything in PvE a year ago.
>>23061112Why are the proportions different in the first place? Why not just copypaste the same values and then gut the geometry so that it runs smoothly on the weaker machine? I know nothing about 3D modeling.
>>23061310>This is what happens when you step over the line...You become a square?
>>23060830the loadout is actually okay but the biggest detractor is the arms. bad recoil control and bad melee spec. but spring chicken orbiter is sexy so whatever.
>>23061503damn son what are you doing? Stay in B. A and S will suck the fun out of you since all of them using the same meta build.
>>23062233Unless he's a rat or a zimmernig himself, in which case let him go to A.
>>23061728i honestly have no clue
>>23062382
>>23059603Thanks Ayre
>>23061875PvP is for optimization, PvE is for looking good. What arms are best for combining melee and recoil control? Melander?I wish they had released an RC2000 spring chicken kit.
>>23062233>>23062280WE WUZ RUBICONIAN N SHIET!! I actually use a Zimm. I think I am happier being a failed metafag than someone who didn't even try to be on top. May sound stupid but I can't change. I tried. I started just playing ranked because it provided the quickest matches and didn't care for the rank at all. But everytime I get close to the next rank I start to get ambitious. I can't help it. I tried just playing for fun and not take losses to heart and avoiding anything meta but I felt like I was just coping with not being good enough. I am sincerely apologize to the funseekers for the unjust losses they received at my hand.
>>23061728>weaker machineUhm anon, the PSP is the weaker machine here. What it has over any home console is you can carry it around.
>>23062562Doing Destroy the Drive Block using only Alba parts is pure kino.
>>23062571A zimm is fine, I use one too on my custom Rummy build and honestly I don't even mind the double zimm fags as much because I can take wins off them sometimes and even so, win or lose the matches end quickly. It's the rats that are the lowest scum of the earth, I truly believe they are not human. I can't see anyone that's legitimately having fun doing that as my equal.>I am happier being a failed metafag than someone who didn't even try to be on topIf you aim for S I won't blame you even if you are a rat but most of the ones I met are low A scum that have been playing for hundreds of hours, they're clearly not going anywhere so that's when I start thinking how can you keep doing that and call yourself human.Besides, you don't need a meta build to get into A. All my builds are made with looks in mind while trying to follow some kind of rule like only using parts from a single corp or custom NPC builds. Pic related is what I got A with last season and I simply made it with using both coral melee weapons in mind on a heavy frame, I have a build with every other melee weapon already and most are light frame. Point is you can have fun and win at the same time, it's only S where you need to actually try for real and even then there's a lot of people that are good enough to get S even with off-meta builds.
>>23061728It is a handheld, you want things to be bigger to compensate for the smaller screen.
I think a simple way to make ranked better would be to bring in 2 ACs into a match. Pick one as the first and when you lose a round you get the option switch to your 2nd one, this way you can have possible counterbuild for when your first AC is hard countered.
>>23063620>RPS but you both play with both hands
Armored Core 6 > Last Raven
>>23063755This is like 7 out of 10 people you match with on ranked now. Imagine centering your playstyle around running the fuck away like a pussy. Then imagine openly playing like that, talking shit, and calling people out like you're hot shit for playing as commonly, safely, and pathetically as possible.That's like 85% of who's left in pvp. If we're being generous.
Post builds
>>23063897Woah. I really like the first guy and the one below it. First time I see snail's head looking good
>>23063897Very tasteful.
>Have a grueling fight with an AC in last raven>low on hp after I beat it>HAHA LOL HAVE ANOTHER ACThese mission designs man...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANmSN8e34S4I play this when I fight Ayre, and activate the drop when she starts phase 2.
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>>23063964Woops. Meant for >>23063897
>>23063944shit now I want a water gun in AC. Like a hydro cutter weapon, that'd be badass
Remind me why Last Raven is praised again?
stagger is fine but taking double damage is absurd
>>23063992The main issue is that stagger in its current form is a way for heavy weights to stunlock lightweights when it shouldn't be
I like to use just the Orbiter parts but then have all of my internals be advanced Rubicon Research Institute coral stuff. It makes me feel like I'm driving one of those 'sleeper' drag race cars that looks like a junker but then you pop the hood and it's like something Domic Toretto would drive. Thumb Dolmayan is cool.
>>23064023hah, gay
>>23063979Ray has a water laser in mgs2.12:05https://youtu.be/q0DAv34i8fQ
>>23064023Same.
>>23064049Woops.
>>23063897>that CR-T cosplayi've seen you before...sometimes i miss hawken because most things were balanced and you didn't have to worry about matchups being depressingly badalso, no range-limiting ricochet mechanicsgood work on the builds, anon
>>23063620why not make it like Gundam Vs? 2v2.
>>23063823Exactly. And you know what their defense is?This:>>23062571>>23062613Fucking pathetic.
>>23063823>>23064189Rifle kiters are some of the rarest builds in ranked tho, especially S ranks. It's all lamms, zimms and tanks because rifles suck in 6.
>>23064189>And you know what their defense is?>quotes a post that has nothing to do with the metaHave I struck a nerve rat?>>23064310I've met more rifle rats than shields but then again, I'm EU that's mostly matched with asians so matchmaking might differ if you're in the US.
>>23063897Attempting to get the most out of the ve-20b generator and the moonlight.
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/XJOEGDmore concept art of the secret level ACs
I did it, bros. I made it to A.Fuck kites.
>>23064532
>>23064534yo, nicely done
>>23064532It's full of Lamms here, you're gonna love it.
>>23064534How many promo phases did it take?
>Nooo you're not supposed to kite me>Nooo you're not supposed to melee me
>Nooo you're not supposed to fight me>Nooo you're not supposed to ignore me
Just found that snailteus's initial plasma spam can deal 8k damage at once if you don't dodge
>>23064185Because fromsoft hates 2v2s
>>23064701>Terminal armor pops>Guy is almost dead maybe I can still salvage this>Guy flies away>Fuck meI am not the one in the clip but I could very well be.
>>23064631He's not mad you fought him but you triying to kill him, KILL ARQUEBUS!!!
>>23064861Terminal Armor best use is in 3v3.
Man, you guys aren't kidding.Once you get to A, matchmaking just does nothing bur fuck you and match you up with pure meta slaves. Most of them are kites that can backpedal faster than my assault boost, and my boosters have the second fastest AB in the game. They keep going up as high in the air as possible when they're about to stagger so you can't punish them with shit or pop their PA with AA.
i'm thinking if AC6 had an OS tuning option similar to oldgen optional part that break missile locks regularly would do great good to AC6 meta
>>23063897>yamatoOk that's really cool
>>23065061Ranked just got seasonal reset, all metafags are rushing to get back into S ranks. A ranks will get more chill once most of them move to S.
>>23065069Does OS tuning really need to exist in the first place?
>>23065205well not necessarily if you ask me, but it does fill the role that used to be filled by optional parts, artificially creating a progression based progress parallel to the part based progress
>>23064567Three.I won four fuckin matches in a row after getting sent back to B-4.5 once. After the promo phase started and matchmaking singled out A rankers again, I proceeded to lose four fuckin matches in a row. They all fuckin play the same too.>max out boost speed>double up on mid to long range guns and missiles>wait at spawn>start zig zagging up and down while backpedaling away from target, micronizing hitability as much as possible while using as little brain power as possible>spam your guns and missiles while they desperately try to stay close enough to you to land jack shit>out dps the shit out of them because you can land all four of your weapons and they might only be able to land a few missiles at bestLaziest, gayest, most boring way I've ever seen this game be played, and it's the be all end all of the meta currently.God help us.
>>23059267I felt like Silent Line was overall better cuz it doesn't have that retarded heat bullshit for starters
>trying to stir the thread with heat againfuck off already
>>23065069>>23065205it should not be permanent.I mean, the best use would be something like a slot. Like in Gen 2, each core had its own numbers of slot, so you can't just use every OS Tuning.
>>23066364I don't get it. He is clearly no gaemz. Or at least never played Silent Line up to encountering Big White or at all paid any attention to why his health suddenly starts dropping despite not being hit.
>>23066448I think that'd be a nice way to add more build variety into pvp assuming From could balance it right
>Underground Investigation in Last Raven>can't get to the boss without having less than 2000 ap leftThis fucking game man
>>23066494
>>23066507fake raven spotted
>>23066507Oh hey, that worked. Thanks bro
>>23065061>They keep going up as high in the air as possible when they're about to stagger so you can't punish them with shit or pop their PA with AA.This is the part that makes them so infuriating, I have to blow an immense amount of power to reach them even with the lightest mech you can make (I'm at 46T atm with a Yaba, I can drop to 44 using the VP-20S but going lower than that is impossible unless you go empty handed) and when I do often times they escape punishment because they're usually mid air, doesn't matter if I successfully stagger them first if the game fucks me over and I don't have time to reposition and react before they unstagger. If I land the dagger they're dead, if I don't I just get chipped to death. Tried the SAN-TAI like >>23058739 described but it didn't do much difference, I can get to them just fine with the Yaba too, it's being positioned properly for the melee hit / AA that's the match decider.
>>23066568They should give you better vertical tracking for melee when the enemy is staggered. Or just let you quickboost vertically up and down.
Should've listened to this anon >>23062233
>>23066620Somebody said "You're stuck in B XD" to me.Didn't have a choice.Happened when I was in C too. Can't escape rank judging until I hit fuckin S I guess. No matter how blatantly cancerous and common the meta devolves and becomes.
>>23066568I'll boost all the way over to them, and by the time I catch up, I'm staggered, half my AP is gone, they have full AP, they've boosted away like 800 meters, and I'm at square negative one.I have a friend that plays like this and likes to invite you to 1v1s and only pick watchpoint delta B for the map, of fucking course. It's his favorite map btw. I refuse to 1v1 him anymore, cause it'll just make me wish he was dead irl. I still like to join just to watch other people try to beat him though(they never do).I got on his case over voice about how all he does is run the fuck away, and he said "What am I supposed to do? Let you hit me?"
>>23066575I love how the game is literally built around melee yet meleefags are still asking for more buffs because zims and lamm rats dominate pvp meta completely. It's almost as if trying to turn Armored Core into Frame Gride wasn't such a good idea.
>>23067155your soul kinda just dies when you load up a dual pistol + blade build and realize how hard of a time you've been giving yourself trying to make rifles work, how easy these duckettfags have had it since forever
I'm at my 3rd ac6 playthrough and I want to try heavyweight build for a change. Which weapons should I use to deal with all the fast AC fights in this game?
>>23067216Rifles are insane too if you spam charged shots. Just not so much against kites/rats obviously.
>>23066575>Or just let you quickboost vertically up and down.What would the input for that even be?
>>23067280Max assault boost speed chicken leg with triple melee (energy lance, piledriver, fist) and an earshot.
>>23067303>(no directions) pressed jump/boost + qb for vertical qb up>(no directions) press qb for vertical qb downHm, maybe that could work. Would be a pain if you mess up the input though.
>>23067314Meant for >>23067298. I guess I'll get some shuteye.
I played through the PS1 trilogy and I'll be honest with you I didn't like em that much. Apparently 2 still uses that fucking King's Field control scheme despite being on the PS2. Not sure if I want to keep playing the series bros... What's the first game that actually lets you aim with the stick? 4? The funny thing is that they seem to be the best /m/ action had to offer in the 90s
>>23067343Nexus
>>23067343If you're emulating there's a mod to use the second stick
>>23067346I see, thanks. Maybe I'll check it out>>23067352Gonna be using my PS2. I know PCSX2 got better but I just don't want to deal with it anymore, hurt me too much in the past...
After all this years, 100% game twice just to get Allmind secret dialog. I didn't realize I still haven't opened this.
>>23067372Well open it.
>>23067386what for?I already 100% all achievement, all the logs. There's really no reason for me to get that.
>>23067387aight fine you do you.
>>23067372That's the flamethrower.
>>23067392So useless then.
>>23067394Yup. Unless you want to do a meme build.
By the way, what do you guys think about Destroy Floating Mines? Is it a good mission in your eyes?
>>23067399FUCK THAT, FUCK THAT SO MUCHFUCK THATWORST MISSION OF ALL FUCKING TIMETHE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING?
>>23067405>woah somehow I managed to beat that fucker 9ball, looks like I'm done with this shit finally after dying to him 10 times and redoing the whole thing, where's that computer>*another 9ball spawns*Why
>>23067410I can tolerate that. The platforming shit is just bullshit.
The design philosophy of the PS1 games is that all of the missions are piss easy if you equip the right parts but then there's that one mission that's bullshit hard regardless of what your AC is like. I also remember the actual Hustler One / Nine Ball in Master of Arena being obnoxious and bombarding you to death in seconds, making you sit through unskippable cutscenes every time. I think you had to get lucky with its behaviour to win. They also nerfed all of the weapons in MoA real hard because admittedly the finger was broken as fuck in PP
>>23067410>>23067445Unironic skill issue. The 2 Nineballs in 1 aren't exactly hard, second one especially kills himself with the grenade launcher half the time. I agree that the platforming part is an absolute meme though. MoA Nineball also isn't that bad, his later incarnations like the ones in AA are much tougher.
>>23067445I don't remember MoA NB being hard at all, in fact the entire game felt short, easy and underwhelming
>>23067480I find it funny that Disc 2 of MoA takes longer to beat than the actual game but then again the game is called 'Master of Arena' so Ex-Arena is probably the real meat of the game intentionally. I don't know if many people have even tried it though, the vast majority most likely just called it quits after getting through the campaign
>everyone calls him "Jacko">name is actually Jack Zero
>>23067477>second one especially kills himself with the grenade launcher half the timeI've realised this too
>>23067399There's only a couple platforming missions before it throughout whole game, it's not really something you'd expect. Just another let's mess with the player because lmao things that From always had a tendency to do from time to time.
>>23067399I actually liked it. At least from a narrative standpoint. I also liked how the game handled the whole NG+/debt/H+/redo-story thing. Ambitious and original even by today's standards. I really wish from would try more of this experimental mold breaking stuff.
>>23067530Human+ is really cool but I've always viewed it as easy mode for scrubs which is really surprising to see in a 90s game, it's like FROM was saying>we WANT you to finish the game by any means necessary
>>23067502Don't even need to intentionally bait him into it, I was just kiting due having around 3k AP left and he just exploded himself
>>23067445>if you equip the right partsAC1 builds basically boil down to:>good head (noise canceler and biosensor)>the one good generator in the whole game + the strongest boosters you can buy until you find the hidden part>wide and shallow FCS, MG500, small missilescongratulations you now have a build that can faceroll 90% of AC1's missions with zero problems whatsoever
>>23067343you do know you could rebind controls ever since AC1, do you? you aren't one of those retards that never read the manual, right?
>>23067343Give 2 a try at least and keep tinkering with the controls, the game is much more responsive and the lock reticle is offscreen half the time.
>>23067500I call him Jack Off>>23067399I completed it with tank legs on my first playthrough as a kid, it's ok. Had to run past the second 9B tho
>>23067948>>wide and shallow FCS, MG500, small missilesWe shame such people here.They're also the same people who call AC1 boring after they pick the most boring weapins.
>>23067971> as a kidYou actually been with the series since the beginning? That's cool as fuck
>>23068011I just emulated stuff in early 2010s
>>23068023Oh lol, I see. ePSXe days
>>23068002>They're also the same people who call AC1 boring after they pick the most boring weapins.This.
>>23067948Alternatively>find Karasawa>hold square to win
>>23068002What if i used a plasma gun. because i am cheap as fuck
>>23057409So whats considered an op build in these games before AC6? Like what is an op build in last raven or silent line?
>>23068002back when I first played AC1 in 2012 /m/ used to make fun of casual niggers that got the Karasawa by reading the guide and didn't learn how to play as a result. truly the gravelord greatsword of AC1.>>23068097the bubblegun start from mission 1 in AC1 is fun
>>23068104Missiles
>>23068107>got the Karasawa by reading the guideIt's not really that hard to stumble upon it yourself honestly
>>23068107Karasawa is solid if used by itself or with a blade, because it has limited ammo and you really have to try and aim well instead of mindlessly holding the fire button to win.
>>23068107I actually managed to find both Karasawa and Moonlight in AC1 by accident. No fucking way I could ever find AC2 Karasawa without the guide tho.
Master Ex-Arena is probably the hardest shit in the PS1 Armored Cores, harder than the mission with platforming and two Nine Balls. Not even Karasawa can hit those cheating bastards, you are forced to git gud
>>23068115How many would by that point know that there are ac parts to pick up from the ground? I had no idea until I read it online
>>23068132What the hell are you on about? the karasawa has 50 ammo in ac1. Thats more than enough to hold fire without having a second thought about it for the majority of the missions.
>>23068135But the AC2 Karasawa is even easier to find. I stumbled upon both by accident while dodging enemy fire.
>>23068140>yeah you have to aim but I aim so I don't understand you morning breakfast
>>23068173Dunno man, I was too busy fighting armored train things to look for some random spot on the ground.
>>23067530Would be really cool to see again, especially having multiple paths and the H+ locking you into the bad end not the fun kind either>>23067594Like the chicken hat from MGSV, yeah it'd be really on brand for a fromsoft game to finally have an easymode that you can only unlock by being dog shit, it'd be funny if Journos complained about getting railroaded due to it, not realising they were admitting to being scrubs
>>23068135>with a bladeIt's impossible to hit anything with a blade in that game
>>23068136even harder than fucking Tiamat?
>>23068187genuinely, what are you on about? who are you even quoting? You are the one saying you have to aim and be careful of your ammo, when that is blatantly false. And calling the literal best gun that carried every guide reading noob to the end of the game "solid" is such an understatement
>>23068197Just fly towards your target while keeping it dead-center in your screen and mash blade button. On bipeds you propel yourself faster than on boosters and autotracking guides you like you're a missile.>>23068136It's how I had beat the EX Arena.
>>23068206Solid as reputable choice specifically, irrelevant to as a weapon of quality. Learn to read, and to read the context
Here we go, again. Stay calm. Focus. I SAID STAY FUCKING CALM!!!! Don't think about what could go wrong.
>>23068193I always thought that if you have too much H+ the game should have a different ending once you approach the H1 AI. Like your AC stops moving and the AI then taunts you.
>>23068219I really wonder when pseuds like you write these responses how high and mighty they feel. You set a complete false precedence and now you are trying to wiggle out of it through semantics. You are a genuine retard and I am not going to feed you any more (you)s after this
>>23068198Tiamat was hard? I barely remember that guy. But there was one faggot in Master Arena, I think this one>https://armoredcore.fandom.com/wiki/EX300He just flies around and spams undodgeable missiles, he is only number 17 but I had more trouble with him than any of the stronger Ravens in the arena. Like not even the anti missile lock on part helps, his missiles hit you no matter what>>23068210>Just fly towards your targeYes I know that's what you're supposed to do I just never managed to get good at it. I remember hitting some AC in one of the arenas with the Moonlight sword and doing like 1100 damage, thinking to myself>well you can basically delete everything in the game with it if you get good at this stuff
>>23068253Oh shit I actually read the wiki itself after linking it>Even though he is ranked low in the Master Arena, he is not only the toughest AC in the EX Arena, but it is one of the hardest fights in the series, comparable even to the likes of Nine-Ball Seraph and Final Zinaida.Apparently it's not just me, seriously fuck that fight
>>23068240don't do it bro.. A rank is where fun goes to die
>>230682892 losses 1 victory.I have to see how far I can go.
>>23068136>Not even Karasawa can hit those cheating bastardsthat's because in gen 1 energy weapons don't lead targetsget good shitter
>>23068219holy damage control mr redditkill yourself
HANK NO DON'T DO THAT DON'T GO TO A RANKS METAFAGS WILL RUIN YOUR ENJOYMENT OF THE GAME HANK NOOO
>>23067477>MoA Nineball also isn't that badLol no that boss is fucking random bullshit that can drop your hp to 0 in mere seconds if the AI feels like it
>https://armoredcore.fandom.com/wiki/FokkerIt's him...
>>23068361dutch aircraft company name
just to piss on the pseud that likely never even played AC1's head a bit more>Solid as reputable choice specificallythe AC1 'Sawa is a weapon so "reputable" to the point noobs actively used to get advised to sell it instead of using it because not only it lead to developing bad habits, but also has the very "solid" characteristic of dealing overkill damage against trash enemies like MTs and helicopters, being useless against planes, very situational against ACs, and as heavy as the cheap prostitute that your mother is
>>23068240What server are you bro? I'm gonna stop you.
>>23068373>>23068324Too late. The fun is over for me.Last match was really fun. My terminal armor popped and he had some 200 AP left. I assumed (correctly) the dude would AB off, So I started chasing him. He turned around shortly before the Armor wore off to be greeted by my charged Oscillator.Man, I wish I looked into making recordings sooner.
>>23068372Even before I'm aware of Karasawa's existence, I always use laser rifle due how cost efficient it is.Besides, telling others not to use Karasawa while continuing to encourage using analog mods is really hypocritical.
>>23068373isn't everyone on 1 server? or do you mean what platform?
>>23068386Before I changed mine to global server I can hardly get any matches at all.
>>23068372Not that anon you're arguing with but personally I find Karasawa to be pretty good against ACs in AC1 and PP's Arena. It feels like in MoA they made the AC fights more dynamic and therefore Karasawa most of the time feels completely useless in that game because you can't hit shit with it. Also lmao @ finger going from ~4000 ammo to like 500. From really didn't want you to win easily in MoA
>>23068372i think it's just a shitposter man, like the overheat guy the other day, doing some appeal to authority fallacy by posting a completed LR save he could have very well downloaded from internet to show his terrible build
>>23068135>Moonlight in AC1 by accidentWhat prompted you to blow up the floor
>>23068408Buddy you are legit unhinged if you're still upset over this bullshit, I just said I don't like Nexus heating system that much, that's all. Chill already, it's all cool, all AC games are fun in their own right.
>>23068440to be fair the floor can get demolished by the explosion of traps hitting you, it's not impossible to fall at the bottom by accident
>>23068408Are you still seething about this? good lord
>>23068444>don't like heating system>Chill already>it's all coolheh
>>23068440I didn't, there was some weird wall trap thing that shot fireball me and then everything started falling apart, legit almost made me shit my pants because I wasn't expecting that. Then I spent like 10 minutes climbing ruins to get back on top and falling down.
>>23068440Remember that the moonlight is under a fireball trap. So its quite easy to get hit and destroy the floor.
>>23068458>mmonbunk>not bunklight or, even better, moondriver
>>23068246>>23068319kys tard trash
>>23068448>>23068465>>23068469Oh shit yeah it does go off and blow up the floor, checked a longplay on Youtube. For some reason I remember the traps in that mission not working unless you are really close to them
>>23068471woah moondriver sounds cool as hell
Has anyone here tried playing the old AC games with a mouse injector?
>>23068513Wha- huh!? I just threw up in my mouth a little.
>>23068513We will never know because anons who have tried that have probably killed themselves
>>23068458Fromsoft needs more props for making melee so fun in AC6
>>23068513>>23068520We only play it with the foreskin snipper
>>23068533Damn, they let you keep those?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAjxrC94ha4This mission is a vibe, you either get it or you don't
>>23068585Yeah it's cool. Anyone know what the background lady says?
>>23068585I keep remembering this mission because it's the closet AC got to feeling like a horror to me. Just very unsettling in a way only old games can be.
>>23068602closest*
Post ACs.
>>23068602The PS1 entries in general feel oppressive at times, don't know if it's intentional or not. Makes them stand out
>>23068601The static and the kinda low volume make it hard to hear all words, but the main thing is "intruder detected in the facility, intercept" and some other shit I really can't hear well.
>>23068601The pleasure of being cummed inside
>>23068601>>23068620The localizers themselves probably liked the mission so much they decided to keep the original voice
>>23068614>short draw distance>dark becuase undergroundWould be great if any prospective new entry came back to the oldgen style subterranean complexes as the setting. Just give the ACs headlights and have the player traverse mostly lightless underdark between pockets of civilization and some other brightly lit areas like the road networks, main transit nodes or some manner of pitstops/tourist traps. Then have the urban areas be really well lit with visibly paneled ceiling sky screens and maybe decorated with some rich greenery to contrast the otherwise bleak and barren world.
>>23068585I always thought it was spooky, being the remnants of prior life before the great destruction.I think the great destruction itself would be an amazing setting for a new AC gen.Honest to God, I hoped before that a new AC game would just be a continuation of ACVD, ACs being just slightly junkier versions of AC1 ACs, but with fully proportioned/evolved stature, almost indicating a full recovery from prior cataclyms. A final mission trying to stop, or activate the Justice Satellite Cannon would be kino. I'm convinced AC4-ACVD made connections to the AC1-AC2 timeline, and a nice full (apex in)circle story would be cool
>>23068810 (Me)How did the pic post sideways? I just copypasted the image address.
>>230688194chan strips images of EXIF data and other metadata to anonymize the images. Same reason why phone pics often end up rotated. Might be that pic had some data that got stripped off and made it turn
>Shutdown Defense Systems Crow is kicking my ass in AC:LR send help
>>23069316nvm I cheesed him by breaking his ai lel
>>23069316Tunel near the exit point, get in, he'll follow, free grenade shothe's made of paper
>>23068609
>>23068513Didn't work on my machine. But that was several years ago when I tried.
>>23068380>continuing to encourage using analog mods is really hypocriticalI only ever encourage people to rebind the controls (which is a feature the games always had straight out of the box)surprise of the surprises, once I started calling people out on being retarded subhumans that never read the games' manual, the amount of people that recommends those romhacks sharply decreased
>>23069408really excellent use of lighting here
>>23069408Cool really early morning commute vibe.
>>23069599good work on those breaklight decals
>>23068585>>23068602>>23068810>>23068814i would've liked to see them play into something like this more with the grid/watchpoint alpha segments
