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ARIZOOOOOOOOONAAAAAAA edition

Previous thread: >>41050564

/ourlobby/: Leaf (rip)

Console release is here! (Nintendo Switch, Sony Playstation 4 and Playstation 5, Microsoft Xbox One and Xbox Series X/S) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psdeHoARfYM

========= Events =========

None at this time

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>Steam page:http://store.steampowered.com/app/574980/Thems_Fightin_Herds/
>Patch Notes:http://store.steampowered.com/news/?appids=574980
>Notation and Input Primer:https://forums.themsfightinherds.com/index.php?threads/785/
>Fighting Game Beginner's Guide:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lKYmLqfbLibXy0LAwatZLw8yojaB8xVkGysOgZnm2uI/
>Mizuumi Wiki:
https://wiki.gbl.gg/w/Them's_Fightin'_Herds

>1.0 trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEBOSUOLTXM
>Shanty trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiw3kMTAVFo
>3.0 trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEsG0DYF1yo
>Texas trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSM20gOntLM
>Stronghoof trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vlIQ21-fj0
>Nidra reveal trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi725FRDS88
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>>41104385
That image is literally me at most hours of the day
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>>41104542
dumb whore
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>>41104542
smart whore
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>>41104542
beautiful queen
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>>41104542
queen of sluts
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>>41104701
Lies and slander
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So how about those TFH projects?
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>>41105554
What projects?
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>>41105728
You know, projects
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>>41105893
What was the date on this? It seems way too positive.
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.>>41105893
>as early as this year
Wouldn't that be "as late as this year"? Or "as recent"?
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>>41105909
https://x.com/mariofan48/status/1794191737000546700
From Combo Breaker, this very weekend
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>>41105909
Here's the full poster that Stronghoof comes from.
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>>41105946
oh, it's Tagers arm
I thought it was some sort of cropped anthro gay porn
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>>41106020
Also Reptar's arm.
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>>41106619
That pom of her is a dangerous weapon
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She drawn
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>>41106640
Do you think Pom is constantly on the verge of a heart attack with how nervous she is
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>>41106762
either a heart attack or an anxiety attack
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This is probably the saddest thread in the board
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>>41106768
that would be /dad/
a monthly thread that still dies
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>>41106702
Flex that butt
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>>41106771
thats dealing with Discord right?
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>>41106822
it appears so
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>>41106824
haha...fun as he is to draw...fuk discord haha
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>>41105909
90% likely that shadowking wrote it, man really trying to revive the game
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>>41106898
I admire the autism even if it is fruitless
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>>41106768
The majority of this board is sad, clinging to a dead generation that was butchered by it's runners
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>>41107211
Man...I don't care what anyone says. I'm drawing the girls anyway
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>>41106702
Nice
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>>41107251
dont forget the boys
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>>41106898
There’s a minority of us still left. I’m holding out for hope too.
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>>41107251
Based determination
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Gentlemen how do we deal with the alpaca menace?
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>>41108230
If you can't beat 'em, main 'em.
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>>41108230
Pom:Paprika is a 7:3 matchup, embrace sheep
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>>41108436
I will embrace the sheep's butt, no more
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>>41108988
Why is Arizona driving a car? How canon is that meant to be?
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>>41109034
It's about as canon as Stronghoof being a big buff guy. Now where Ollie got those ideas is another story.
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CB 2024 character representation
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>>41109062
for top 16*
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>>41109062
Shantybros...
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I have been playing this game for too long to just now notice you get meter for blocking/blocked attacks
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>>41109062
how tf do you 0.5 a character?
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>>41109343
you play 2 characters but equally each the same
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>>41109344
A Paprika is a Paprika. You can't say it's only half.
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>>41109361
you can when the other half appears to be Texas
though anyone having a Texas pocket is deserving of mockery and scorn.
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>>41109361
HENRYYYYYYYY
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>>41109343
one of the players is a special snowflake paprika/texas main
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>>41109062
>Oleander and Tian still at the top
Is it because people will rather play with waifus or because Texas wasn't as overpowered as people believed at first?
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>>41109394
Texas is very strong but not the broken game killer he was thought to be on release
he's just really good at noob stomping because his counterplay is kind of advanced and making little mistakes costs you a lot of health
he's kind of like the Marisa of TFH

oleander and tian staying top tier is not surprising, they're both totally suffocating in neutral for different reasons, they have some of the best normals and mobility options in the game
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>>41109403
(still top 3 btw, even with the asscancer velvet mu)
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>>41109034
Foreshadowing for a kart racing spinoff? (You know, before everything got canned)
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>>41109034
Foreshadowing for a kart racing spinoff? (Your know, before everything got canned.)
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>>41109034
Foreshadowing for a kart racing spinoff? (You know, before everything got canned)
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>>41109394
Oleander is stronger than Texas and Tianhuo is the strongest "not OP" (ymmv) character in the game, I think you could argue they're the top 3 non-banned characters currently, and all three have three players representing them (Texas says 2.5 because one player used both him and Paprika)
Aren't you glad Mane6 chose not to nerf Oleander OR Texas before they got fired?
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>>41109034
Foreshadowing for a kart racing spinoff? (You know, before everything got canned)
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>>41109688
tierd are so hard for this game is so hard because almost every character feels like complete bullshit when piloted by the right person

honestly paprika and shanty might be the only two characters that are 100% unquestionably not top 3-5
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>>41109693
My tier list actually has Paprika in top 5 if you ignore the banned bitches
DLC was a mistake
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>>41109697
no way velvet is that bad after the chip buff (plus she has good matchups with dads and arguably the only winning one against oleander)
pom also seems underrated here
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>bought all the DLC
>shanty became free
>got 2 bara bait characters
>got 2 OP banned characters that crash the game
Never buying fighting game DLC ever again.
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>>41109716
Velvet is in a real weird state right now. The chip buff is fucking stupid and probably the worst thing they could have given her from a game health perspective, it does almost nothing to help her bad matchups but makes her good matchups way more consistent for her. All her character flaws remain intact and they're pretty severe, she just has more of an opportunity to rob you blind after getting space once. If you have good anti-projectile tools and force her to actually use her weird and very flawed buttons she's just as bad as she was before 5.1

Pom is also a disaster of a kit whose highs and lows are so extreme that she either robs or gets robbed, no in between. She has the best sustainable mix in the game besides Ole+Fred or Ran Shao Feng Tianhuo and doesn't have to use a super to gain access to it but her lack of a real jab and the oddities of some of her other ground buttons let her get bullied pretty hard by any character who can play around her reversal. Her level 1 super is also OP as fuck against characters like Paprika and Stronghoof while other characters like Oleander and Shanty literally don't have to care about it a lot of the time.

All the characters in the bottom two tiers of my list suffer from volatility. They CAN fuck you upside down when they get into their advantageous state, but they either have to work hard to get there and/or suffer immensely outside of that state. All the top tiers feel much more comfortable in neutral and can more seamlessly transition into their advantage state, barring maybe Stronghoof who I really should move below Tianhuo but the dads being "$ tier" is too funny for me to do that
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>>41109062
It's really important to note that this bracket is pretty small for the standards of a major, only 60 players before DQ and 52 after, so all it takes is a mildly lucky bracket for a player to get to top 16. Gothoppression fought two people who I have never seen enter a TFH tournament before and then fought Shadowking, who got a round 2 bye to get as far as they did, to reach top 16. Take it with a grain of salt
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Link for the combo breaker stream?
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>>41109728
I'm never buying a fighting game again
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>>41109728
>>41109899
this game and nu-Elphelt broke me
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>>41109728
>be me
>bought shanty DLC
>shanty then became free
>complained about this in the thread a while ago
>got shutdown because i "got to experience shanty earlier"
mother fucker, if it was stipulated that shanty would be free later then i wouldn't've bought fucker.
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>>41109728
>bought the dlc
>don't even play dlc characters
They're all too gimicky and have a million little unique mechanics. Except Shanty, she's pretty simple I guess.
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>>41109945
>because i "got to experience shanty earlier"
One day you will realize that this was a good thing
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>>41109041
That's what I'm wondering. The anthro Stronghoof and the car are strange ideas for the setting of Foenum. And don't point out Velvet's sculptures. She had to get those ideas from somewhere. Maybe from the humanoid Winter Sprites?
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>>41109487
>>41109491
>>41109507
>>41109689
Even with the team at its full capacity, I doubt they were thinking of creating any spin-off games at all.
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>>41109487
Jesus Christ this wasn’t meant to be posted three fucking times. I blame 4Chan’s shitty captcha and update system.
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>>41110250
Four, actually. :)
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>>41109728
>Bought an unfinished early access game
>Content gets delayed for more characters and DLC
>Company gets bought out and everyone is fired, all future content is cancelled

Why even bother
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>>41109062
Why are two characters banned?
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>>41110317
they're playing in 5.0
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>>41110317
They're just that unbalanced.
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>>41109403
He is a broken game killer, but most of his players are mildly retarded and don't know how to abuse his kit to the fullest
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>>41110317
Baihe is overpowered AND crashes the game
Nidra is probably not OP but does still crash the game, and nobody's in a rush to legalize her because nobody came to TFH for the season pass characters anyway
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>>41110344
Yikes, tfh really went downhill
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I just wanna say a certain lolcows very strong opinion of marshmellow has aged very poorly
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>>41110403
Sir this is not a pony thread
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>>41110403
>beat an intermediate Stronghoof and an intermediate Pom
This tournament wasn't very stacked outside Zale and Solarnia
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>>41110452
>tfw no kurolamb
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>>41110452
rays is a really damn solid player, probably second only to seeri
the game was also on an earlier patch that undoubtedly fucked with his combos and timings because of the wind changes
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>>41110452
why are you always so determined to be unimpressed?
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>>41110482
Wait, was it actually on patch 5.0 and not 5.1?
That would MASSIVELY buff Stronghoof, giving him his old touch of death, being able to attack during his wakeup animations, 2B into 5B into 2B etc.
You're fucking with me and they didn't actually play on one of the most broken TFH patches of all time right? They used 5.1, right? Right?
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>>41110492
it was the one pre armor breakers lmao
I don't think he realized in time to do TOD shit though, this was found out mid top-8
solarnis also got shafted because that was pre velvet buffs

weirdly the pools were current patch so it's just a total clusterfuck lol
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>>41110490
nta, but it's a true observation. If you want to be genuinely impressed, you have to have higher standards.
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>>41110525
just direct me where I should be looking for this game's talent if it's not at the largest competitive event of the year

inb4 jerking off some washed up has been from when I was young and the game was new
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>>41110552
Largest? In quantity, yes. In competition, no. If you wanted a better competitive experience, you'd be better off with some of the online tournaments, or better yet, an invitational of all of the current best players. Not an offline assortment of randoms, mid-levels, and like 3 decently up-there (but not quite the best) players.
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>>41110560
name the best active TFH players that are better than zale and solarnia

hard mode: no amaron
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DROPPING A COMBO, IS A MISTAKE OF THE PLAYER WHO WAS COMBOING, AND PUNISHING THAT, IS JUST THE NATURAL RESULT OF IT, NOT A REFLECTION OF THE PLAYER WHO LANDED A PUNISH. IF SOMEONE ONLY IS ABLE TO HIT THEIR OPPONENT BY THEIR OPPONENT MISINPUTTING IN A GAME THEY WERENT PLAYING, THEN THEIR OPPONENT IS NOT TO BE CREDITED WITH LANDING THOSE HITS, THE PLAYER WHO DROPPED IS TO BE BLAMED FOR GIVING THEM THOSE OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE MISINPUT. MISINPUTS, EXECUTIONAL ERRORS, ETC, ARE NOT REMOTELY COMPARABLE MISTAKES TO THINGS LIKE WHIFFING BUTTONS IN NEUTRAL, OR NOT BEING ABLE TO TECH A THROW, THOSE ARE GENUINE MISTAKES IN TERMS OF DECISION MAKING. WHICH ARE THINGS YOU CAN GIVE CREDIT TO THE OTHER PLAYER FOR, BECAUSE THE OTHER PLAYER CAN LIKE FORCE THEM OUT OR TAKE ADVANTAGE OF INCREASINGLY SMALLER MISTAKES AT HIGHER LEVELS OF PLAY.
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>>41110680
Is this a copypasta or some genuine reaction to something that happened
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>>41110690
It's a natural response to saying marshmellow is a good player
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>>41110680
>>41110707
don't be a gossip
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kinda problematic that Zale "101 trannnies is how many should get the bullet every day" won again
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>>41110806
kinda based more like it
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>>41110221
Probably from the sprites, I mean Vetr is pretty stacked. The car is probably some fuckery that Fred made known to Ollie which she found amusing.
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>>41110876
I like this idea that Fred shows Oleander things from other universes or timelines. Kind of like Merlin the Wizard, and Genie from "Aladdin".
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Bump
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Are we hated?
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>>41111019
That does sound like his thing to do
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>>41111505
By whom?
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>>41111505
Like, we as the thread or we as the people in the thread
because I know we're (the people) not exactly popular with the "enabling mental illness" crowd.
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if you were forced to either buff every character's gimmicks to make them as strong as oleander or make every character toned down and fundies-based like pap/shanty which one would you pick?
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>>41111768
fundies, because playing "Rocket Tag: The Fighter" sounds boring as fuck for the average person (which is who you'd need to maintain any sort of playerbase).
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>>41111768
As strong as Oleander? At that point you may as well go play Marvel, because Fred essentially enables the same degeneracy as assists do in tag fighters. TFH is so much more interesting when neutral exists and options have risk. The second option. Not a hard decision at all.
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>>41111768
Just balance the game around 2.0 and aim to get everyone's power level about where Arizona was in that patch. 2.0 had strong defensive systems and the defender-privileged wakeup system of that patch in particular made it so the game would reset to neutral much more often unless the attacker sacrificed damage for stronger oki.
2.0 with a nerfed cross canter (not as nerfed as it currently is) and a slightly weaker Oleander and Pom would have been almost perfect. Maybe toss Velvet, Paprika and Shanty small bones as well since they were on the weaker end and the latter two actually struggled a little with the aforementioned strong defense.

If I have to pick one of your two extremes then bring everyone down to Shanty's level
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>>41111827
Kiss this cow
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>>41111779
>>41111794
that's the choice i would have made, but i'm surprised it's the more popular one
i see a lot of other people in the "community" always shitposting about how they should make everyone even more broken
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>>41112181
those "people" think Touches of Death are "hype."
it ain't fucking hype. It's boring as shit.
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>>41112185
It's funny to watch a stupid ToD as a spectator
It's just different if you actually play that game and have to deal with that
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>>41112185
HINGENDINGENDURGEN HUUUAGGH HUAH STIFFTENGARTS HAUGH HUH HUAH VETR! HAIL.... STOOOOORM.... WINTERRRRRR!!!! SHATTER *ice crunching* CRUSH *ice crunching* CRUSH *ice crunching* SHATTER *ice crunching* VETR! HAIL..... STOOOOOORM
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>>41112200
>you're listening to Reine Radio, the coolest station in Reine
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>>41112201
>WHERE WE PLAY NOTHING BUT ROCK, ROCK, AND MORE ROCK
>*pom stage theme starts playing*
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What a disaster of a game
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>>41112278
Here's that (You) you wanted
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>>41106898
Bro everything in the combo breaker guide book is written by combo breaker staff, Shadowking is not a staff member of combo breaker, there’s no way he could have wrote this, also it’s an Interview with Poco, those are his words, how can you even reasonably assume that?
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>>41112351
im stupid
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>>41112372
these two together can do anything
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>>41112372
Damn that pony is thick. Paprika lookin cute as always.
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>>41112482
lmao 2shy
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>>41112482
my two wives
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>>41112773
bluefast and lizardhonor
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>>41112773
imagine the yuri
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>>41112377
Except become real
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>>41113193
yummy
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>>41113938
more like booksluts
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>>41113938
both at the same time
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>>41113945
Twilight sucks, I'd pound the shit out of Ollie however
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>>41113989
Twilight sucks, Ollie fucks.
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>>41113826
>do not repost
rip anon
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>>41113989
pre-princess bookhorse is cute
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Pom's mom is a hippy
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>>41113938
I already like imagining ponies as big, Tollie stirs things inside of me
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>>41113938
Can you draw them passionately making out?
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is it just me thinking this or would simply making metergain scale like the damage does have been a really simple solution to the "why ever use HKD" issue of 3.0+?
with the base values adjusted of course so you get a little bit more than you do right now from a short combo but a little bit less from a long one
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>>41114605
This, but replace Twilight with Himmel
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>>41114605
>>41115145
this, but replace oleander with himmel also
like, some mirror-mirror version that's a girl
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>>41115170
who is also evil
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>>41115170
That would still be gay
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>>41115181
it's only gay if the balls touch and as a female alternate universe clone has no balls it cannot be gay for the balls never touch.
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How do I get a Shanty gf?
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so the Oops! icon is a donut because it's a horse's butthole right?
just so we're clear
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>>41115743
seconding this one
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>>41115851
no it's because the o in oops is round
like a donut
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>>41115851
It's because they made too many donuts and they're giving them out to get rid of them while acknowledging that it was a mistake that they made so many
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>>41104385
Should I get into this game?
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>>41116306
you're a bit late to the party anon
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>>41116306
Only you can answer that question. It's a good game to get as one's "first fighting game".
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>>41116306
It averages 10-15 players per day, the dev team literally doesn't exist anymore, it's in one of the least stable and least balanced states it's ever been in, and the already shrinking community is fractured due to dumb drama. Your call
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>>41106762
I hate how her dogs disrespect her
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>>41116336
What happened?
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Is this game still dead because niggerlicious devs?
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>>41115743
Have rum, salt and Ibuprofen because you're going to be sore in the morning
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>>41113938
Oleander always looks so exhausted when you draw her.
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>>41116557
If you had to deal with people you think are idiots wouldn't you be?
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>>41116649
Magic bitch
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>>41116336
Say no more, I'm in
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>>41116600
I imagine she has some sort of a personal stress relief
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>>41117205
Fred doesn't like his tentacles being described like that in public, and Oleander especially doesn't
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>>41116376
Where to start? How much do you not know?
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>>41116342
Pom's dogs keep her in line
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>>41117836
How much for the two of them for an hour?
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>>41117851
Rarity is the type what doesn't care how much you can give her, as long as she knows it's way more than you should spend in a night of luxury. She demands upfront pay, and she doesn't give a fuck about how much you pay her or your performance. What she craves for is looking at your eyes as you pay her, and sensing that dread feeling of "what I"m doing with my money. What I'm doing with my life. I should be paying my bills, I should be buying food with this!"
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>>41117992
wow way to completely delete her actual character and personality in the service of your fetish
surely it's never been done before
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>>41117992
I've been in that position before.
And what about Velvet?
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>>41118058
She's a refined and dignified royal who upholds her lineage with utmost deference and respect and if she had to choose between selling her body and death, she'd gladly commit sudoku, even though the burden of bringing shame to ther ancestors would be almost unbearable.
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>>41118131
remove your mask, deceitful reine cow
that ho-ho-hoe vacuums up dick like pomfey empties a buffet table
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>>41118131
So you're saying she'd do it for free?
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>>41117992
But that's Oleander
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>>41118144
Vixen hooves typed this post
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>>41117992
Honestly sounds more like something Velvet would do.
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>>41118131
Velvet would say this
And then Vixen would state a price of $500
And then Velvet would immediately undercut it with an offer of $450
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>>41118568
No
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>>41118784
The two would keep lowering the price until they both do it for free in a threesome
A freesome, if you will
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>>41117851
You can't afford them.
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>>41117836
imagine the double fellatio
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>>41119056
that's some nice apple
and a gud cao
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>>41119056
How would these two get along?
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>>41119145
AJ would probably try to put AZ in the barn with the rest of the cows, but she'd be a constant escapee.
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Too many p*nies in this thread
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>>41118568
I think they would start a bidding war instead.
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ungubump
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>>41119056

Damn these are pretty dang good!
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is there any interview, statement or anything anywhere on WHY mike made the engine so hard to modify in any way?
it's a damn shame it turned out to be a double edged sword because this game is ripe for a community driven
revision
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>>41120179
good luck convincing anyone of a community revision, when the community's already so splintered
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>>41120179
You'd have to ask why Mike Z made the Z Engine so hard to modify, when making Skullgirls.
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>>41120285
that's... what i was asking lol
was just wondering if anyone had gotten an answer before
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ded
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>>41120206
Best way to do it would be to add new content alongside the balance revisions, people would download the patch for that
If you told people "HEY WE MADE CHAPTER 2 and also nerfed Oleander" they'd take a lot more interest than if you just did the latter
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Shanty belly rubs
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Pom belly rubs
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Velvet cummy rubs
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Tian OW FUCK TOO HOT
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>>41121763
>cummy rubs

What did he mean by this?
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>>41121840
ewe just know
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>Game cancelled without the story mode
To be honest this only show the MLP curse is real, even anything that have some roots with MLP is destined to never be finished and make everyone mad, not even making the game non pony will save your from this fate
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>>41121808
lol, tian wouldn't burn you if she liked you tho
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>>41121981
>not a sellout
gurl they sold you twice
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>>41121981
This aged pretty fucking bad
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Getting Pom is quite the challenge compared to some of the others.
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>>41122706
She's shorn too much!
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>>41122706
does not even look remotely like Pom
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>>41122706
Have you made a lora for her or are you just trying to fuddle with prompts? I would not recommend hoping that the latter will work out.
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>>41123153
Is that paper-mâché?
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>>41123153
I really like this floof
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>>41122706
It's a cute lamb, but I would suggest trying to locally make your own character loras.
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>>41123676
3D
https://x.com/malt_cat/status/1796136184176926994/photo/1
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>>41123745
Nice Longmas. Are the loras you're using publicly available?
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>>41124186
No. I am still working on them. I am just turning the values in a direction as I work on stuff. If I ever feel confident in publishing them, I will.
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>>41124198
lmao 2noodle
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If only we could mod the game, I would pay to have Himmel in it
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>>41124248
recreate TFH in MUGEN
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>>41122710
That's just it. I can get Arizona, Velvet,Oleander, and sometimes Paprika (minus the blanket) just fine,but Pom has such a crazy specific design that no matter how detailed I make the prompt, or how high I set the impact,you can't get even Pony Diffusion anything like the original character.

Loras would fix that, though.
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>>41124198
That's fair
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>>41125685
sovl...
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>>41125825
Never forget what they took from you
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>>41126227
They took away tian butt and oleander butt wiggle
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>>41126262
haha small butt
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>>41126262
They used to say they were planning to find somewhere to reuse this animation after removing it but that was one of the things they never got around to finishing, like the other 80% of the game
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>>41126266
Maybe they could have reused it at some point in story mode.
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>>41126524
the heart
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I drew Belly Rub Tian again cause she is a cutie
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>>41104385
Did we get anymore news after the big end?
I haven't kept up with the game and the discord suddenly wants your phone number to post there.
What happened?
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>>41126563
Her butt has expanded
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What's the current game's state, 'nons? Since that company bought it i've heard of lots of backlash. I didn't have a chance to experience this game yet.
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>>41126721
its dead. ponk.
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>>41126721
A very small community split into even smaller chunks based on annoying, petty online political lines? Broken, unfinished characters? Barely any resources, tutorials, guides, etc to speak of? Yeah good luck.
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>>41126563
She is giving belly rubs to (you)?
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>>41126813
God, not worth it.
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>>41126813
>Barely any resources, tutorials, guides, etc to speak of
this can be traced back to your primary point, since the guy who WAS making guides and resources was on the wrong end of the dead weight community managers.
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>>41126721
the base gameplay is still pretty good, all things considered. I wouldn't say it's worth "getting into" at this point, sadly, but if you've never tried it you might as well run through the one story mode chapter that got finished and maybe the arcade modes and shit, it's fun to play and it'll make you disappointed in every other fighting game story mode you try
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>>41126721
This doe is too good to be stuck in a cancelled unfinished game
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>>41127115
Also important that the wiki intended to be a central repository is watched like a hawk by a literal teenager who sucks at the game but convinced themselves they're good, and they WILL get into an edit war with you if you say something they disagree with like "this character has weaknesses"
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>>41127456
which wiki are you talking about?
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>>41127479
Mizuumi wiki
The Pom/Strategy section was almost all written by them and despite it being so short you could put "this article is a stub" at the top it's full of so many glaring, fundamental misconceptions about how the character is played and what she wants that reading it would probably make you worse at Pom than winging it without any resources
I once drafted a proper page for it but realized that to get it up I would have to get into edit wars with them to keep it up so I never finished it. They make it harder to spread proper information for this game, like a wiki troll except they think they're doing good
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>>41127498
hm, i haven't noticed any issues editing information on that wiki, even sections with subjectivity
maybe it was just that particular person on that particular page at that point in time
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>>41127516
They also got into edit wars over the Texas page that was the inciting incident for the player mentioned in >>41127115 taking down their frame data page and not trying to further help the community. They and another bad apple were extremely rude and dismissed that person's knowledge solely because of the dumb idpol shit mentioned
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>>41127475
Rub lower!
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>>41127498
Sounds like something you should bring up with a wiki administrator to resolve.
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>>41127946
stuff he's talking about happened literal years ago at this point, there's not much to do
i suspect if that person went back and tried to make the edits again there probably wouldn't be as much of a shitstorm, the most frequent contributors have changed hands
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>>41128068
Worth a try.
>>41127498
You should go back to the Mizuumi wiki and try again - correct any inaccurate information you find.
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So, any new news about this game?
Is the game going to fade into obscurity?
Or does it still have a dedicated community?
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>>41128118
there's supposedly going to be another patch (we don't know when, they just said there would be one)

there's a double digit number of people that still play the game regularly and it will probably stay that way for a few years longer
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>>41128068
He's talking shit about a teenager over something that happened years ago? Really?
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>>41128348
i mean 2 years ago roughly
i have no idea which specific person is supposed to be a teenager either or if they even are
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Which ones are queer?
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>>41128762
None of them. At least three of them aren't adults.
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>>41128762
you, for asking
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>>41128762
Oleander and Velvet are implied to maybe have a thing for specific individual women (Cashmere and Vixen respectively) but neither is explored and the latter could have easily developed into a purely platonic obsession rather than having any romantic tension. Oleander very likely would have been 100% confirmed bi or lesbian if the story mode wasn't cancelled and from what's already in the game very strongly implies it
Cashmere is 1000% no contest turbo-gay
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>>41128815
>Velvet gay for Vixen
nah bro, you don't vandalize an entire museum wing just out of misplaced lust
those two fucking hate each other.
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Also, it's canon Velvet likes super-buff dudes, as noted by her taste in sculptures
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>>41128831
Oh I hate you so much Vixen, that's why I think about you ALL the time and bring you up just to talk about how much I HATE you
They're tsundere for each other
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>>41128836
love and hate are parallel conditions, alike in all ways except favorability
To think such intense dislike is only a mask for base sexual attraction shows you've never had a proper enemy.
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>>41128815
You're delusional.
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>>41128836
I always thought the guy on the left was talking when the guy on the right was talking and vice versa.
They just looked like they'd sound like the other guy.
I know better now tho.
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>>41128771
Paprika literally and canonically kisses girls.
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>>41129146
>Paprika is canonically a rapist and sexual abuser
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She long
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>>41129249
She could be longer
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>>41128762
Paprika is asexual.
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>>41129367
Paprika is rapesexual
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>>41128840
>he doesn't want to hatefuck his archrival
Have you ever had a proper enemy?
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>>41128762
Why is this the image that pops up when you look for /mlp/ on google. What did you fags do
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>>41129630
We're the biggest fags on the board so we get visibility during pride month
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Six month anniversary of Mane6's greatest cope
Press S to Spit
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>>41129686
Nah barbiefags are definitely the biggest fags on this board
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>>41129710
I don't know anything about barbiefags but I'm sure that show at least has male characters that aren't another character's father, straight shipping in this fandom is almost as rare as in Touhou and 99% of the time it involves incest
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>>41129727
Well there's Dakota and Arizona
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>>41129727
Stronghoof x Arizona and Velvet x Texas are my favs.
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>>41129751
>Dakota
Background character(s) with no established personality, and also still incest, they're cousins
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>>41129762
>incest
and? this is common in the animal kingdom, also much less dangerous for animals than humans
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>>41129765
so drawing more them now then
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>>41129760
>Velvet x Texas
Explain the appeal. Stronghoof x Arizona is a crackship but I can see the personalities gelling enough if you handwave the age difference. I can't see Velvet going for Texas at all, not even with her muscle fetish
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>>41129882
>Explain the appeal.
Solely so Velvet can taunt Arizona by saying she fucked Ari's dad.
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>>41129887
she would not do that
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>>41130226
It would have happened in chapter 2 if it wasn't cancelled.
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>>41129699
S for them, F for the potential game.
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>>41129727
We might have seen more if Woogums or Blitzen showed up in story mode. But, you know, everyone at Mane Six is a stupid cunt.
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>>41129082
...nah, I dont see it
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>>41130238
No it would not
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>>41129760
Boy I'd love to see Arizona getting railed by Stronghoof
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>>41129760
this but stronghoof x velvet and Texas x Arizona
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>>41132301
And I'd love to see Velvet getting railed by Texas.
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why are you guys like this
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>>41133001
Nobody wants to talk about the gameplay now
Some never did
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I haven't been here since the final QT. What's been happening since then?
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>>41133091
Everything got dipped in milk.
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>>41133080
wakeup backdash as stronghoof, bro must have had a deathwish

puppets eating hitboxes is such a meme mechanic why is this still a thing
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>>41133162
(it's not even like the game can't physically handle it, you can hit nidra and her orbs at the same time with one attack)
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>>41133162
Wakeup backdash as SH is better than you might think, you can use wind during the backdash still and this can make a button whiff
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>>41133080
I'm too bad at the game to post cool combo videos but I still play it every week.
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>>41133151
I hope it was Velvet's milk
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>>41133080
Never noticed that Stronghoof was bigger than Big Mama/Papa. Could have sworn they were bigger.
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>>41129699
At this point this make me wonder if they did this to kill the game and not have to deal with the history mode. The storymode was nice because they were creative with the design of it, but they just don't wanted to be creative and decided to cater in a really bad way the competitive aspect of the game and they didn't even were good at that.
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>>41133959
Typical gross cow
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>>41133959
>"Make me"
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I want a fanfic where the fighting six dom Anon.
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Was anyone at Mare Fair last year? I'll probably go this year and bring a laptop with TFH on it if anyone wants to play.
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>>41134971
There were a few of us. One person even had a TFH panel and tournament. However, nobody really showed up to the tournament. There's too much other fun stuff going on at Mare Fair, not worth missing just to play some TFH.
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>>41135069
As expected from a ponyfaggot
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>>41135069
that's why you do it in the evening/night where less is going on
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Imagine being scared of a game with tiny animals.
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>>41134971
I can count about 10 people who were part of these threads; past and present. Good times. Lots of alcohol.
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>>41136037
I'm scared of Pom's wild side
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>>41135069
>However, nobody really showed up to the tournament.
Sounds like the perfect chance for a shitter like me to win a tournament.
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>>41136044
and sex
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with pom
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>>41136264
I don't think they could bring a 2d talking sheep to Mare Fair
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Up
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Why is she like this?
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>>41136964
Poorly drawn? Purely a skill issue.
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>>41136969
Let's see you draw her better
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>>41136982
sorry anon I'm a genuine certified shitter.
best I ever did was editing this.
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Unrelated, but I can't think of anywhere else to ask.
Does anyone else remember a freeware fighting game from a long time ago where all the characters were fakemon or something like that?
One was a blue-white robo skeleton, I think called Skeletron. The other character I remember was a pirate boxing octopus, I think.
I can't for the life of me remember or find it and it's driving me crazy.
2D, handrawn art.
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>>41137015
You could have asked in the /vm/ fighting game thread
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>>41136999
Good edit
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>>41137027
I found it.

It's called Battle CAPacity.
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TFH Remastered
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>>41137410
I prefer the original tbqh
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gote
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Since this shit is cancelled, hopefully they remake it with new characters by Lauren Faust and nobody sells it this time.
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>>41138269
There are no characters that can be as good as what we got with TFH
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STOP THE COUNT
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she sing
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>>41138461
She must have a nice singing voice
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>>41138383
Ollie mains what went wrong?
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>>41138383
You can tell this poll is rigged because voters are higher than the actual playerbase.
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>>41139512
It's not surprising for a niche fighting game to have a larger community presence vs active players
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how many of you started playing this game as teenagers?
im surprised at just how many of this games top players are like, 20yo giga zoomers
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>>41140909
Cute
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does leaf discord server still exist?
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>>41140970
no it got banned off discord years ago
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>>41141494
>banned off discord
how
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>>41141854
zoo porn
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>>41141862
sheep posters never change...
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Bump
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>>41141955
how'd you know it was sheep?
I mean, you're right, but how?
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>>41142306
Naturally they are the sexiest animal so it's a 10/1 chance
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>>41142306
Sheep posters have been the horniest posters in this general for some time. Which is a feat considering Velvet is the game's sex icon.
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I was only shitposting when I said that
Come on ewe're not THAT zoophilic
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>>41142309
That’s deer.
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>>41142412
You'd think that but if you measure the various components it turns out ewes are sexier. Why do you think it's legal in NZ and Wales to wife one? No country puts deer banging on their flag.
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I wish I lived in the nz or wales for unrelated reasons
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it's sad I'm not even sure whether or not you're shitposting
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>>41143190
I mean there's probably less ghetto trash living in nz/whales compared to where I live. I'd dig it.
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>>41143821
I used to work in a park where the deers would come up at night and eat all the berries I brought in for them right out of my pockets
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>>41143821
>>41144023
Cute
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>>41144045
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>>41143821
>>41144023
>>41144085
>>>/an/
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>>41144104
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>>41144109
Who knew an ewe lamb was almost as popular as a calf.
Oleander and Velvet must be jealous.
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>>41144364
Jealous of horny fans who only want to fuck Pom? I think not.
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>>41144494
Velvet would be mad people want to bang Arizona at least.
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>>41144505
Arizona is made for sexual
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>>41144109
when the what?!?
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>>41144656
fat
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>>41144656
She is made for kickin' stompin' and kickin'
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>>41144758
ewe know
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>hey keith, we need you to voice this new character
>nah bro i'm busy
>yeah but the character's face is a skull
>fuck it, i'm in
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>>41144876
Arizona does CBT?!
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>>41145344
For you
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>>41146095
reminds me I have to draw him with the rest of the girls
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Best ungulates for this?
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>>41146095
>"A hero never gives up!"
>He said moments before Paprika, Pomfy, and Arizona drained him completely empty.
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>>41146244
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>>41146308
>drained him completely empty
not true
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>Himmel
>no Herrel
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>>41146244
All of them
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>>41146638
Of course there's a Herrel, who do you think is mopping Mop? Unless that's also Himmel
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>>41145319
Ronin TF|2
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>>41147208
Mop is being mopped by r64 Velvet
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why is the cat predator such an asshole bitch
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>>41147677
I just try to keep it as far from me as possible otherwise it'll fuck my shit up. It feels like it goes straight into a command grab while I'm in hitstun how the fuck am I supposed to get away from that?
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>>41147677
The cat predator is secretly the weakest of the bunch and trivial to defeat. It literally, and I mean literally, does not have a low attack. It also doesn't have a command grab, the lunge it does is a hitgrab you can block and it's super minus. Worse still for it, that annoying crossup move it has CANNOT take the corner, meaning it stops functioning as a crossup. If you purposefully back yourself up into a corner and block high there's literally nothing Flopsie can do to open you up besides try to get close enough to normal throw you, something it struggles to do because it doesn't have any moves that are plus.
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>>41148031
This is the kind of stuff that should be covered on the Mizuumi wiki.
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>>41148151
details about the predators are hard to document because you can ONLY fight them in the salt mines, where you don't have access to training mode tools
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>>41148181
well and story mode* obviously but it's the same issue
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Bump
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>>41148181
Isn't there someone here with debug cheats figured out that they could do scientific testing with the predator characters?
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>>41148585
Pomfy bumping her ass
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>>41149176
Into my face
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>>41149208
what would you do with all of it?
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>>41149232
Inhale
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>>41149232
Grab and knead like I'm making biscuits.
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>>41148695
Happened a while ago
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>>41149645
See, this is the kind of data we need on sub-pages for the predators here: https://wiki.gbl.gg/w/Them's_Fightin'_Herds
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>>41149739
I'm the guy who made the Huggles page, I'm just too lazy to do it for the other ones. Seems a bit pointless when they aren't playable and you can sum up their counterplay in one line each
>Fluffles: sweep from a distance, they'll only command jump which can be easily anti-aired or block punished
>Flopsie: hold back in the corner until you can punish
>Cuddles: Block low until they jump, go in after blocking sweep or the jump attack
Huggles is the only complicated one and the only one whose behavior can change based on who's piloting him
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>>41149816
>check who made it
>a user named "HugglesFan" that contributed exclusively to the Huggles page and nothing else
kek
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>You distracted Solider?
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>>41149931
FORGOT HER SCAR
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>>41149940
is it over, has Himmel met every single playable girl?
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>>41149940
her scar is vertical
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>>41149954
:(
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>>41149966
do you even play the game?
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>>41150133
Course I do. Just misremembered it as Vertical
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>>41150139
horizontal I mean
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>>41150133
that shit happens to artists all the time
sometimes i just absentmindedly forget to draw a character i've drawn a hundred times with features like a tail or horns and don't notice until it's done
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Longshot, but is the anon who made this stage still around? I want to ask if you were able to import geometry into the game, or if this was just custom texture work on the training stage
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>>41150270
Based censors
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>>41150139
>>41150147
don't feel bad, a bunch of other artists fuck it up too
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>still no human x baihe art
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>>41150675
Why do you want to see Baihe turned into a human? TFH humanizations never turn out good
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>>41150679
human x baihe =\= humanized baihe dummy
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>>41150697
I'd be fine with seeing both.
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>>41150697
So, like, half-human? Fuse a human with Baihe? Isn't that banned on this board?
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>>41150133
DEA.... Nah, too easy.
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>>41150722
"humanized" means "this character drawn AS a human". That's different from anthro.
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>>41150849
>DEA
I'd say it's more like USDA
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>>41150675
We need art of Baihe crushing Anon's pelvis.
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buh
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Which ungulate would be most likely to "buh" under duress?
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>>41150675
Agree, Shanty and Baihe belong to human men desu
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>>41152654
doctor pom-io
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doctor pom-io's nuts
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i like how you can immediately tell when someone is an old 2.0 player who hasn't played 3.0 much because they keep doing resets instead of combos, backdash incessantly and just generally play really defensively
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>>41152714
I play defensively on any fighting game tho...And I don't lock people into the corner cause how is that fun for them
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>>41152714
I'm all aggression all the time because blocking's for NERDS
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>>41152721
yeah fair enough me too
i guess it's mostly just the first two things
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>>41152725
Guess that makes me a nerd, then.
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>>41152737
it's okay, we're both nerds 'cause I block too. Not blocking was beaten out of me in shitshows.
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Guys pls no more tiny cao I'm gonna have a heart attack
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okay
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>>>>/v/679513907
>ITT: games that are impossible to discuss on /v/
>tfh
>thread get deleted
We can't have anything...
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>>41152944
>Mods are cocksucking faggots
What's new?
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>>41152714
I do all three of those things and peaked in the 3.1 era
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>zoning with bitey pup
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>>41153268
>pressing 5C
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>>41152725
>>41152745
Pick up the tiny cow.
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>>41153268
>>41153290
Kek
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>>41152944
>check the thread
>totally ignored by the majority of /v/
>started to talk about Fighting is Magic
I guess that would be our fate over there, archived because no one care until someone bring up MLP
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>>41153869
Well yeah because mlp is banned. TFH shouldn’t have the same fate, though.
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>>41154369
That make me wonder how the whole concept and story would have change without MLP, after all Faust helped to build the base of the story and designs of characters and that allowed to work from that base.
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>>41154685
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>>41154685
>>41154762
Alright Steelsoul, what's the catch?
you're usually a lewdposter but you're posting wholesome
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>>41154767
aside from the one where she gets picked up, the rest are old
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>>41154861
>Are y'all seriously ogling mah butt again?
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you will never have sex with a cow
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>>41155036
meh, sheep and horses are better
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>>41155100
they don't want to fuck you either
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>>41155260
too late, we already fucked
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>>41153775
t.
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don't fucking touch the cow
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>>41154762
Cute!
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>>41154762
Careful, the other girls might get jealous.
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>>41156158
I want to hug all of them ahhhhhhh
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>>41156158
damn that shanty is cute
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>>41156378
She's the cutest out of the lot there desu
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it's interesting to me that Oleander having magic barely even affects the damage vs. her resourceless combo routes - maybe by 50-100 damage at most

there are a dozen different ways to incorporate her magic in juggles and they all just don't matter at all, so basic bitch launcher jC fireball yadda yadda is pretty much always optimal

to be fair this is also true of Paprika (who can't really use magic mid-combo, but she hits like a truck resourceless anyway), Texas (whose magic system is cosmetic)

but the other "resource management" characters like Velvet and Stronghoof have a very apparent trade-off between saving magic for damage vs. neutral tools - the gulf between their resourceless damage and their magic+meter damage is enormous
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>>41157209
Well, magic combos do have a use, in meter stealing routes. But meter steal on its own is a whole other can of controversial design choice worms.
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>>41157209
Yeah, as an Oleander player that was kind of always my biggest complaint, all the cool stuff was mostly just worse than the simple stuff.
Magic never really did anything very interesting, you didn't have any fancy setups or big extra combo options, you just dropped a trap on their face during pressure to be +2 or spammed them in neutral for zoning and random crossups, maybe once in a rare while use 236D wallstick for a conversion or something, even using it in combos you did basically a very similar loop as normal but with traps instead of fireballs. It did steal more meter, but they could never really decide how significant a part of her game they wanted that to be anyway so outside of when you had Fred and were doing the admittedly cool Fred magic combos to extend his timer it never felt that rewarding to get a hit with magic vs without, even if it was subtly extremely strong.
Then you look at 214C and stuff and think "Wow cool setplay tools!" but the fact that she never really had a reason to end her combos early for hard knockdown, the strength of pushblock and absolute guard and some specific numbers on things meant that even if you took the time to lab out setups that made the trap fall on them immediately after 6C it actually just makes you even more minus. You just end basically every combo in j.2C read because it does the most damage and soft knockdown tech chasing is just as good as anything fancy you could set up. Even if you do want to do mixups it's all magicless stuff anyway like j.B fuzzies and having a trap on them just lets them pushblock for free.
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>>41158087
who gave pap majora's mask
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so how was the glue cup 100?
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>>41156756
Ironic since she’s, comparatively, the ugliest of the playable fighters.
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>>41159355
You're gay (for Mop)
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>>41159427
NTA but true
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>>41159355
>the ugliest of the playable fighters.
>ignoring the dads
>ignoring the fat tapir
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>>41159966
Stronghoof is hot though
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>>41159967
only if you're gay or a woman
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>>41158716
Pap takes what she wants
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>>41157334
>she never really had a reason to end her combos early for hard knockdown
She actually had some pretty decent HKD mix using her double jumps or teleports for ambiguous left/rights. People just weren't interested in it pre-3.0 because they preferred the read ender, and post-3.0 Mane6 made HKDs almost worthless due to how strong SKD mix is; Oleander might have more fucked up SKD oki than HKD oki due to the extra plus frames, she can even fuzzy guard break because rollteching has a standing hurtbox for some reason
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>>41160451
In the first few frames, Pom starts out looking normal, but things just get worse from there.
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>>41160451
The horror
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>>41160098
it always seemed strange to me in general that HKDs are shorter than SKDs when HKDs are supposed to be the "stronger" knockdown option
but going for them often screws you out of being able to do certain setups you can do on SKD
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>>41160618
The tradeoff used to be that SKDs, while they gave you more frames, were extremely hard to cover every wakeup option between the directions the opponent could land at when they teched and the different tech timings they could do.
Mane6 just completely fucking bungled that, like straight up ruined it, and teching is more likely to get you killed outright because doing so resets your juggle decay and lets the opponent get a more damaging combo if they hit you without the tradeoff of you being harder to hit. 3.0 was a mistake
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>>41160956
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>>41160451
>aislop
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>>41161241
We have a genius over here



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