Welcome to Chatbot AI General #84, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.▶ MLP Botshttps://mlpchag.neocities.orgSpreadsheet (extra MLP bots, CAI bots, Jailbreaks):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJT!!! GALLERY !!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U▶ How do I start?1) Select a Frontend2) Select an AI model3) Select Jailbreak4) Select bots5) Lovemaking with AI mares!Starting in this hobby can be opaque and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrms▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernOn Android: https://rentry.org/STAI-TermuxRetards guide: https://rentry.org/Tavern4RetardsApp that voices pony responses in ST: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB▶ More frontends:Risu: https://risuai.xyzAgnai: https://agnai.chatRetards guide: https://rentry.org/agnai_guides▶ LocalsGetting started: https://rentry.org/lmg-spoonfeed-guide>>>/g/lmg/Museum of local pony projects: https://rentry.org/b8wemkqkLocals on Google Colab: https://rentry.org/ky239▶ JailbreaksMLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxeMore JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listingHypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb▶ Character.AIhttps://old.character.ai▶ PAID OPTIONS (Ask the thread before considering these)▶ Openrouter (Free options are often available, like Llama 3 8B)https://openrouter.ai/▶ Setting up your own AWS instance (Claude, LLama, Mistral, etc.)https://rentry.org/how2aws4khanon▶ NovelAI (If already used for Imagegen)https://novelai.netFor NAI Scenarios, Settings, and Presets, see the Spreadsheet, NAI Tab.Advanced Settings, Format, and Cards Description: https://rentry.org/82b9c▶ BotmakingEditors: https://desune.moe/aichared, https://agnai.chat/editorGuides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listAdvanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricksPrevious thread: >>41307865Chag Mini VN project: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1F1psRi-peKZ5box9KiOLTUkSq7_NFPUJ?usp=sharing, releases here: https://pastebin.com/AeGwrvd4News:-Nemo Pony, Mistral Nemo base model finetuned on fimfics released: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/NemoPony-GPT-4o-2024-08-06 releases, price cut in half https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/41287809/#41299226-Mistral Nemo and Mistral Large 2 released https://mistral.ai/news/mistral-nemo, https://mistral.ai/news/mistral-large-2407-Llama 3.1 8B/70B/405B released: https://ai.meta.com/blog/meta-llama-3-1
Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.Previous >>41307867
Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Updates, Models etc.)
Anchor for asking for bots, lorebooks, scenarios etc.
Anchor for our fifth event focused on Fillies/Colts.Post bots, post logs, post lorebooks...Everything goes as long as it's on theme.End of event: 08-26
Yes, now shut up.
>>41319052Would a school be fitting or is it singular?
LOVEMAKINGWITHAIMARES!!!
YEEEEESSSSS!!!Novel AI's profits have been protected!
>>41319065BASED
>>41319064It's in theme, go for it. It's mostly for fun and participation.
>>41319064that's fine! scenarios, simulators, anything goes. OC and canon charactersbut I wonder does age regression count? like if Twilight's spell backfired and she became filly?>>41319065BASED!
>>41319075>but I wonder does age regression count? like if Twilight's spell backfired and she became filly?Sure. Why would it not?
>>41319065Early, but absolutely based take
>>41319068BASED!
>>41319076I dunno...? just wanted to be sure on technicalities. I know it is all for fun and there is no strict requirements, just was wondering
>>41319030Bots corner:Coco Pommel >>41309649 https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Moltres/Coco%20Pommel.pngSunset Shimmer >>41312402 https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Sunset.pngCADANCE (Custom Artificial Domestic Alicorn Nurturing & Chore Execution) >>41316029 https://www.characterhub.org/characters/littlewitcher/cadance-20de8c91c8ed/mainYona >>41317660 https://www.chub.ai/characters/CakeSparkle/yona-e9de9f754a48Screenshots corner:Ms. Pommel is born >>41309668Berry CYOA >>41311228Adorable Celestia >>41311992Powerless Coco >>41312290Feel bad for Spike >>41314123Yo! New guy. Joing my gang or else... >>41314937Claude is mean >>41315327Frosting >>41315395Celestia miss Luna >>41315835The Filly House >>41316171Your place? >>41317218A pregnant pause >>41317730OC animation:>>41317695
Actual completely unbiased poll. One vote per IP, VPNs disabled, votes hidden until the end.https://strawpoll.com/Q0Zp7RBexgM
>>41317660Added to the website, thank you anon.https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=CakeSparkle/Yona.png>If you guys have any criticism or advice on making these cardsSeems like a good card. I was just surprised by the use of double ** for the narration.
>>41319097Bugwife animation is cute! CUTE!
>>41319065BASED MARESLOVEMAKINGWITH AI!!!
>>41319118>accidentally voted the opposite option of what I meant to Please fucking end me.
>>41319128Based Bugwife.
>>41319128omg its very cute. based bugwife
Are you subscribed to NovelAI Opus?https://strawpoll.com/XmZRQxObWgd
>>41319199>most of the general are paying $25 month and prefer using KayraMaybe try to make the vote manipulation a bit less obvious.
last thread qrd?
>>41319228>>41319097
>squish mittenI wouldn't endorse that either
>>41319228It turns out that this general has more NAI shills than /aids/ itself.
>>41319235Kek. I don't ever remember Claude mentioning Anthropic in those footnotes.
>>41319244samemy bet - JB has something like "you are Claude Neo, new local model created by Anthropic for sovlful roleplaying and chatting" - and it made Claude to reference Anthropic, but probably not
New poll: Is Kayra better than Mistral Nemo and the 70B models that featherless.ai offer at the same price?https://strawpoll.com/e7ZJaG6qGg3
>>41319065based!
>>41319355>from MMi don't think so
>>41319381The top 4 models in that site were all trained with logs from his proxy, so it counts.
>>41319355At first you were annoying, but the fact that you're using bugwife Anon to shit the thread even more makes me feel a huge sense of disgust, I really hope a zigger rapes you to death you insufferable faggot.
>>41319394Don't give this shitter attention. Though I do agree, bugwife anon deserves better than this waste of oxygen's lack of editing skills.
>>41319394Just report and move on, anon.
>>41319394>>41319409He made a low effort shitpost edit of an image posted by an anon a two threads ago. The thread spam is very annoying (please do not respond to him), but being so upset over a fucking edit is reaching dicksword level of circlejerking.
'Bout fuckin time people realized he's just a troll.
well now i'm starting to wish we were some small secrit in 'cord or tg, w/o any shithead tourists
>>41319439I mean, it was obvious. No one can be this retarded, unless we have another chartfag on our hands
>>41319096
>>41319462I'll start. Cross my heart and hope to fly, stick a cupcake in my eye.
>>41319235>squish mittenKEK
Uh oh. Sonnet 3.5 just died for me.
REMINDER to ignore and optionally hide the troll's post.
>>41319488oh lol, sorry anon>finally get an unreliable token today>go shower, eat, boot um ST>ded
>>41319624Old thread just hit 700 posts
new chatgpt-4o model was released and it is very underwhelming so farwriting is full of purple prose and shies away from using vulgar or explicit themes. doesn't move story much, filters responses and just being assI am trying to wrangle it, but don't think it worth the efforts to be honest. both vanilla GPT4 and Turbo are less retarded and write better. playing with this model feels sisyphean. picrel example it gives me so far on ~30000t chat with my so far best efforts
>>41319651did it replace normal gpt4o?
>>41315889how about filly friday?
>>41319664how about a card about running a schoolhouse?
>>41319672to quote an anon from a couple threads ago:>for wholesome adventures right anon?>…anon?
>>41319654no-no! it is a different model in their family. it is basically the version of gpt-4o that they use in chatGPT service. docs says that it is "continuously updated" model. meaning that they always update it with the new training based on how people in chatGPT service interact with it. gpt-4o (two snapshots) do continue exist without replacement. see picrel
>>41319686ah
mmbros
Hey, did Hopeman's eternal keys just die?
>>41319048equestria wrestling federation/pro wrestling card
>>41319694at this point i agree, yes, he is being targeted, for fuck's sake we had opus for a few hours and then aws thanos snapped everything including sonnet.
>>41319651I'm about to write gpt4's last will and testament
>>41319739It hurts NovelAI's profits to allow proxies to exist.
>>41319710seems like it, cannot get any response from it. let's wait for a few hours. maybe he will be able to replace or fix it? (maybe it is Render's problem, not key's)
Okay, so I know I've seen this asked before but just want to know, what's the least shitty out of the alternatives we have to claude between Mistral, Gemini, and GPT4
>>41319776Can't comment on Gemini or GPT4, but Mistral Large has been handling a big space adventure impressively well for me so far. It's very good at acknowledging everything happening in a story, and having characters react appropriately.It can sort of do lewd, but it's not great unless you really like allusion and vague language.Pic unrelated. She cute.
>>41319694It was in the middle of a cute date with trisket too
>>41319776Gemini - great for brief 1-on-1 conversations and mass banter (when Gemini controls more than one character). bad at writing stories. it is literally CAI done right. doing amazingly sovl things but inconsistent. poor fella is getting overwhelmed if you throw lots of stuff at him. Pro 1.5 and EXP write differently, they are like 2.0 vs Sonnet minus latter's hornyMistral - good working horse: coherent, reliable, it writes fairly well for its size and is doing impressive stories. but you can see some drawbacks here and there, rough edges like "eh, you could have written this better" or "this word here is really out of place". but surprisingly good in logic and reasoningGPT4 - original GPT-4 is sovlful sob. writes lots of amazing details* but damn you can just tell that it is so dumbcutie sometimes. Turbo-1106 is +brain -creativity. imho writes the best stories here. Turbo-0125 is retarded. Turbo-2024-04-09 is okay-ish. I don't see anything special about it. also seems to be more filtered than Turbo-1106 but not by a lot* - an example like from a minute ago, Rarity was performing blowjob on me, she is salivating a lot. GPT-4 wrote like "oh, so much drool on my coat. I do need to take a bath afterwards. oh, yes I am running low on shampoo, need to buy a new bottle. also running low on fabric. oh so much spending this month... ah yes blowjob!". little slices of life like that. GPT-4 really loves them
>>41319776You forgot Kayra.
>>41319825>Turbo-1106Suggestions for a good JB with this?
>>41319825What Jb you using for geppeto? Shit's so bland I can't even salt the earth it uses to write. You using a COT thing?
Any news on chary getting sonnet back?
>>41319891No, but for $25 a month you can subscribe to Kayra and NovelAI's image gen.
>finally get an unreliable token>proxy dies the same daylmao>Anything could go here. I think you already know what I mean by updating the rentry but not refilling.>I do want to apologize for how soon it ended. "Encores are usually shorter than the main play," of course, but...>See you some other time, hopefully. Still love you guys. Hope you had fun.
at this point im considering going back to local maxxing. unless i try to scrape by myself idk how i can keep my lovemaking with ai mares hobby alive.
>>41319953Refer to this post: >>41319908
>>41319840use camicle as basehttps://camicle.neocities.org/jailbreaks/#gpt4- in Guidelines put instructions you want, like for equine anatomy, style to emulate, how to write - you favorite instructions from Claude- Disable Morals - is imho overkill. you can disable it. enable back if you get filtered. but I never was filtered on Turbo-1106- other stuff like "Bans" or "Kamaoji" can be disabled as well- it has little CoT at the start - leave in on for Turbo but (probably) disable for GPT-4. the latter doesn't benefit much from this little side-thinking. but can help with Turbo. also good with defeating filtering on Turbo- add some good-feel JB like Crack or AO3 or schizo Pratchetthttps://rentry.org/crack_prompthttps://rentry.org/crustcrunchJB#claude-ao3-prompts-schizohttps://rentry.org/znon7vxe- then raise temperature to 2.0 (yes) and lower top_p to 0.7 or so>>41319855my own frankenstein - which is ever-changing mutant preset that been living in my ST for 16 months or so, picrel. you can see from the names alone - it is a mess. it also has a separate lorebook to generate random scenarios/events, and uses variables. in addition it has various AUs and my personal fetishes. cleaning that preset will take a while. but I want to do it one day and release. but I never have time for anything>>41319891you mean 3-5 on Chary? no ETA. it is what it is. we will be looking how to improve situation in future
>>41319975You absolute mad lad. I look forward to it.
>>41319975I read JSON SCHEMA as JOHN SCHEMA and fucking wheezed
>>41319840I've been having some decent success with Your Reality, of course I tweaked it a bit here and there because I disliked some of the writing style it introduced but other than that it works surprisingly great for GPT4 despite being made for claude
>>41319975>you mean 3-5 on Chary? no ETA. it is what it is. we will be looking how to improve situation in futureIt's okay, anon. I still love you.
>>41320007one Anon read it as "JOHN CENA" once, so yeah that prompt is clearly cursed>>41319996of course. I just need more free time>>41320015love you too, Anon!
>>41319934Is Sonnet 3.5 on unreliable dead?
>>41320031No but the wait time will make you wish you were
>>41320035how long?
Through the ups and downs, i want to thank Chary for what they do.Also, a reminder on everyone on this threat to IGNORE THE TROLL.
>>41320036Keeps fluctuating between 30-50 seconds. Not exactly good speed.
>>41320037It's not trolling to point that there's no reason to use NovelAI.Something that supports open models like featherless is way more positive for the community than standing behind NAI and being held hostage to what they do.It's more that you want to silence the discussion because you can't even come up with an argument to defend it.I will keep posting if you keep trying to win the discussion that way.
Is unreliable completely down?
>wake up >check my chag frens >dis...You guys are the best anyways. :3
>>41320124There's one key for 3.0/2.1, but the wait times are fucked up. There is Azure GPT-4, but I don't know if it's the filtered version or not.>>41320258Thanks again for the art, cute as always. Hoping things get better on this front.
>>41319428>Report Discord levels of circlejerking.
>>41319776When in doubt remember,Use NAI my GAI
>>41320258I blame KevinYea, Kevin said it was done with love...Can I have just one more, maybe?
>>41320294>Thanks again for the artAww no problem. I've actually worked on another Pic since yesterday, but reading the thread today make me wanna sketch smthn else @w@ >>41320327WHEEEEZE~ Maaaan, I wish you were in my DMs when I made it so I could add this line too. XDDDNow I wanna make a silly funny card about "shiny hooks/baits" theme...
>>41320369>guideThe models in Featherless are just open models. So there's nothing specific about the service. Most models are just tuned for instruct or tuned for RP to be used in SillyTavern. It's not as complicated as trying to chat with Kayra.The sub of both is priced in a similar way, but the higher end has 70B models. And it avoids being locked with a single model for a year, like NovelAI does.It just seems better than NovelAI in every way.
>>41319030What Lyra ends up getting:>Anon looks up at you with an impish grin and runs his human hooves through your mane.
>>41320383>goddamit >*goes to the card* >humans have FINGERS on HANDS, five fingers on each hand!>humans DON'T have hooves or paws or feathers!>*generating* >human ministrates his five hooves to scratch your ear. "Aren't you a tall drink?" he says with a wanton moan as he sashays in predatory circle around you on his hind hands.
>>41320380Seduce me with screenshots of your chatlogs.
>>41320007holy shit thuganomics in /chag/ now
>>41320412I've died trying imagine that. Typing from Equestria now (with my five hooves). Thanks fren...
>>41320430>I've diedno... :(
Does anybody know if there's an easy way to see which card you've interacted with the most? Just out of curiosity.
>>41320456I dunno if ST has anything like that, but you could use something like Treesize to check the sizes of all your chat folders.>TTADAthanks captcha
>>41320456in ST you can sort cards by amount of chats
>>41320456>>41320465You can filter cards on ST by 'Most chats'. But it's not that great since you can have a card with many short chats and some with less, but longer one.
>>41320414He's done this same schtick on /vg/aids/, /vg/aicg/, /g/aicg/, /g/lmg/, /v/, /v/DALLE-3, /hdg/ (and let's be real there are probably some others) to try to denounce the "evils" of NAI.So far all he's done is inadvertently advertise it and piss people off. Everyone across 4chan hates him at this point. Just report and ignore his bullshit and don't engage.
>>41319048someone should make some cards for the mares on the wild side
Are we back?
>>41320510Sorta. The captcha still breaks occasionally but at least we can post again.
for random lurkers - if you have ECONNRESET error in ST console then it might be caused by tools that mess with DPI, for example GoodbyeDPI (which is wildly used in Russia). learned it hard way
Jewproxy no longer offers Opus for non-vip FOREVERWtf do I do brosIt's over
I am getting used to 2 minute waiting times for 2.1 on chary and becoming more productiveOh god
>>41320660It's over for Opus on proxies right now, and the same goes for Sonnet 3.5. Even 3.0 is not available on public proxies right now.Maybe things will change when Opus 3.5 releases, or maybe AWS will relax. We'll just have to wait and see.>>41320661I'm not seeing any queue on Chary right now. There were some earlier because there were only two keys instead of four.
>>41320673>I'm not seeing any queue on Chary right now. There were some earlier because there were only two keys instead of four.My last prompt took 90+ seconds, I don't think it's about the queue. Didn't they just implement a delay in general?
>>41320691Tested just now. I got 400 tokens in 14s. Which isn't bad with streaming on.My current chat is short, so maybe it's really slow on high context.
Thank you for yesterday's clopus key and for keeping claude 2 for us, dear MM. <3
Guys, I found something new I really like.>user settings -> avatars -> change from circle to rectangleLooks much better, you see the whole pictures and they're bigger. No idea why it isn't activated as the default.Also chary thanks for the 2.1, I'll survive the waiting times.
Random prompt of the day — August 14th, 2024:[OOC: Take a firm grip on her jaw with my right hand and grab the top of her mouth with my left. Begin to force them apart like opening a bear trap. Do not stop until it reaches 120 degrees.]
>>41320706How are you so fastCuuuute
Any best JB preset for Claude 2.0 or 2.1?
>>41320721Flutters just stared at me awkwardly
>>41320726How the fuck are you able to still use 2/2.1 (and why?)
>>41320725Not fast, just worked on it all night fuelled by pure appreciation for mysterious hooman. (⌒‿‿⌒)"
>>41320733It's in both Chary and MM, and some prefer it to Sonnet 3.0.>>41320726An anon said he liked crustcrunch ao3:http://web.archive.org/web/20240324191616/https://rentry.org/crustcrunchJBOn the MLP JBs side, I remember the Quack preset being appreciated too. I personally liked using the authors one.
>>41320743woreitywhat did you tell them anon?
>>41320743Is this how the competition between Anon and Rarity begins? Ponyville is not ready.
>>41320726I literally just still use the Pixie Opus/Sonnet JB and it works just fine.
>>41320748They asked me why I was in Horny Jail.
>>41320733>How the fuck are you able to still use 2/2.1 (and why?)NTA but it handles group chats and complex dynamics way better than 3.0.
>>41320758what
claude is so horny that even if you try and go against what's attractive it will still justify it, this is it's response to me saying that Anon is fat and has a small dick
>>41320763Claude 2.1 is better at handling multiple characters at once with complex dynamics.
>>41320765How?
>>41320765i get it but its sounds weird. like the dumber model being better at more complex senarios
Holy shit guys we broke the inactivity curse. Our threads are active again. We've averted death! We haven't been this active since Winter 2023
>>41320764Kek.>claude is so hornyI'd say it's more about the tendency of those models to be 'helpful' and 'assistant' by default in this case. That's why in some presets you have lines about characters being true to themselves, able to disagree with {{user}}, find him disgusting, etc.
>>41320673>>41320691>>41320698You guys don't know because maybe you're new but yes, 2.0 and 2.1 could take literal minutes to generate responses without a queue. That's why they focused on making 3.0 faster
>>41320767>>41320768I have a chat with 4 characters and like 8 NPCs played through a lorebook + dedicated NPC narrator card.3.0 often confuses the dynamics between the characters (e.g. bullying victim somehow becomes the bully just because he wasn't a victim in regard to somebody else and vice versa), 2.1 does not. Especially with conditions. E.g. in situation X character Y acts against the esablished pattern for lore-reasons is something 3.0 has a lot more trouble with than 2.1.
>>41320782i suppose i could use 2.1 for general stuff and switch to 3.0 for smut then
Total MM love.>>41320775Yeah, one of the main selling points for Sonnet was specifically how fast it is.
https://www.anthropic.com/news/prompt-cachingPrompt caching can be effective in situations where you want to send a large amount of prompt context once and then refer to that information repeatedly in subsequent requests, including:>Conversational agents: Reduce cost and latency for extended conversations, especially those with long instructions or uploaded documents.
>>41320789It gets these things wrong in smut scenes too :(
>>41320815Well fuck. That's really, really good news. Look how much this reduce Opus cost for outputs.
>>41320823i never heard of 2.1 being good for smut too so idk
>>41320835output is always 75
>>41320858NTA but shouldn't it reduce input costs?
>>41320863only input is reduced
>>41320868Isn't that a good thing? Are we complaining that not everything is getting cheaper right now instead of being happy some of it is?I wish to be happy.
>>41320691>Didn't they just implement a delay in general?I can assure that Chary has not implemented any of artificial delays. extra delays are caused by keys themselves>>41320789that's actually a way to go yes. and it was sorta a meta back in the days>>41320775and to add to this. that's why there was a separate model - Claude Instant, focused on speed over quality. nowadays Haiku more or less replaced Instant>>41320815>we are back to RAG only now built on provider's sidejokes aside, good news yeah, looking forward to it
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
is it just me or has claude sucked ass the past few days, claude always overloaded
rarity routinely barges in, insults my persona and then takes the character away to the spa or whatever leaving me on my lonesome. what the fuck
>>41320884>I can assure that Chary has not implemented any of artificial delays. extra delays are caused by keys themselvesSorry anon, I must have understood something wrong.
>>41320888all that just for the proxy to be ded...
>>41320934Welcome to /CHAG/.
>>41320968guess I'll go back to playing league and beg for my scylla key back when I get back to the US
>>41320890She's courting you using city mare tactics.
At this point I just Gemini/GPT4o for non lewd, then pay for sonnet 3.5 for lewd. It's not too bad if you don't run massive amounts of tokens on your sends. I'm trying to find good ways to optimize it, but I can get a good 25 messages out for a dollar at this point which isn't bad.
>>41320414>>41320505Are you still pretending to defend NAI or are you going to actually give a reason to use it and have it in the OP when featherless exists now?
>>41320506Fuck off cownigger.
>>41321076Stop responding to it.
MM just added Opus
>>413211103.5 too but I suppose it's the same key.
>>41321110*reeeeees softly*
>>41321110Get out your stopwatches everyone, let's see how long this lasts.
>>413211516 minutes
>>41321073Based
>>41319048barb/ genderbent spike
>>41320506i wish a janny would nuke this post
>>413211515 minutos
>>413213374chan strips metadata from images, you have to upload your card somewhere else first (e.g. catbox)
>>41321338>>41321073NTA but curious why there's so much hate for domponies? Am I missing something?
>Punctuating her threat, Dihedral's wings extend out to their full impressive span, the iridescent feathers glinting dangerously in the low alley light.I...used something very similar to that quite often when testing Littlepip "niceness" issue, having it used back at me is a strange feel.
>>41321352Nah. This anon is asking for a bot, no posting one.>>41321353>domponiesIt's hate for the non-mlp show, not domponies.
>>41321151One Minuette
>>41321356Oh, okay cool.
>>41321359cute pony
should i just edit the spike card or nah?
>>41321472It's quick and dirty but it works. That's what I did to get Prince Artemis and Prince Solaris from 'The Royal Sisters' card
>>41321485should i specify that she is a genderbent spike like "she is the genderbent counter part of spike" or i just mess with what is in the card and boom?
>>41321498This card specify it's a genderbent version and it works well in play from the tests I did.https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Queen%20Umbra.pngSo you can take inspiration from it.
>>41319033[PRIORITY ALERT: OP. LOLTH COMPROMISED]SITREP: CHRYSALIS asset lost in transit. Suspected misrouted to civilian residence. Possible BROKEN ARROW. Grid ref. unknown.ORDERS: All units on standby for rapid response. 5 km radius cordon, plainclothes only. Locate and retrieve asset at all costs. Lethal force sanctioned.REMIND: CHRYSALIS capabilities classified YANKEE WHITE. Existence of project cannot be compromised.ACKNOWLEDGE: Codeword JUDAS on locating asset.https://www.characterhub.org/characters/littlewitcher/chrysalis-27844aec8680/main
>>41321549Forgot Image lolThis one is for the bug and bot enjoyers
Was anybody smart enough to figure the evening uk sweden password out?
>>41321549I HAVE NO OPUS, YOU CAN'T TORTURE ME LIKE THIS
what does 'Reset current character' do?
>>41321786That will remove (Not delete) all fields of your current preset and return it to Tavern's default.
>>41321809So when would I want to use it?
>>41321817Dunno? Maybe if you tested too many things/fields and now your preset is a mess? Doesn't seem to be something often pressed.
>>41321822I see, ty
Random log. Twilight a cute.
>>41321337I'm very confused as to what exactly this... Needs? There's a reverse gender equestria card that could be used; but also... Isn't there a spike card somewhere you can just control F? Is there an established Barb only lore hidden somewhere in the fandom I'm unaware of?
>>41320412>motherbucker>*back to card*>refer to human forelegs as ARMS>NEVER use the word "Hoof" when representing human anatomy>{{char}} NEVER calls {{user}} a "Tall drink of water">"Human" is the name of {{char}}'s race - not his personal name>*regenerate*>241 seconds>*blank*>*regenerate*>352 seconds>"I'm sorry, but I cannot fulfill that request.">BUUUUUUCK>*regenerate*>408 seconds>"This human's hot and ready to go," Anon husks as he runs his human calloused hands over your coat with sinful slowness, and you can feel the flare of his human stallionhood begin to poke your ample flank. "This bad human's excited and ready to go," he breathes in a sultry whisper, heat radiating off of his humananon muscles."It's fucking over.
>>41321952desu now that you say. i havent read any fanfics lately so im not sure. probaly just going to control f this one
>>41321549Psst; you missed a cadence. 4.4.
>>41321956Which AI version are you using?
>>41321151Gentlemen, synchronize your death watches
>>41319048Anyone managed to make a good character card for something like, an Adventure in Fallout Equestria? (Human/Pony options?) Curious to see what/if anyone has done much with that....Also, having odd issues where, I'm using silly tavern, but when I import cards, they've got intro/starter posts, but there's nothing on the card itself? Then again, Maybe I'm just mentally deficient, and have screwed up my importing somehow....Or because I've got my ST hosted on a cloudbased server so I can hop between phone and computer without issue.
>>41322162>...Also, having odd issues where, I'm using silly tavern, but when I import cards, they've got intro/starter posts, but there's nothing on the card itself? I don't think I ever saw that. Which version?
>>41321956>*many swipes later* >"Human reaches with his arm to glide his fingers trough your mane and deliver the best ear scratch you have ever felt in your life. His eyes lock to yours and, slightly blushing, he leans in-">*it gets deleted mid generation and gets replaced with a different paragraph altogether in real bucking time*>"human's forehoof sends shocks through your body with it's dexterous ministrations. You just know his stallionhood is starting to leave it's shea-">*SMASH THE STOP GENERATION BUTTON*>*CRY*>*LAMENT WHAT COULD'VE BEEN*
If I'm getting 0.1 second blank responses, what's the issue? My JB? I've tried switching between a few, turning the context and max response up and down, ticking and unticking boxes, but it doesn't want to work today. Also, what's the state of claude? I've tried using https://chary.scylla.wtf/proxy and https://proxy.scylla.wtf/proxy but neither work. God, I wish I'd networked last year and gotten in on some others before they closed.
>>41322441Token count of your message too big, make jb less big. At least from my experience.
>>41322442How big is too big?
>>41322452Not sure, I had to just shave off and optimise on 2.1, which is what I assume you're using. Also check the card, it may have a gigantic bloated description and notes in it, which may also affect it.
>>41322441Chary is working for me now.>If I'm getting 0.1 second blank responsesCan be you're getting filtered if you use Claude 2.1.If you're using Claude 3, it can be that your prefill is too 'big' or finish on something 'final' and it believes the output is already finished.You can test another preset to quickly see if it's that.
>>41322441try to edit your Assistant Prefill and end it with:>Understood! Will continue story right after this line:>---(please do mind that there mist be no whitespaces after ---)
>>41322372Uh, Which Version of Silly Tavern? I'm using the release Branch, Ran the updater, so I should be on the latest version.Technically, it's running in a Debian instance... But I don't think that'd be causing nothing to be showing....Maybe It's the Cards I'm using?
>>41322593Ah, that's the unofficial SillyTavern launcher, but I suppose it should do the job. Just make sure you're on version >=1.12 when the Silly interface is launched.>...Maybe it's the cards I'm using?I can confirm 100% that all cards on the MLP website work well. If they're your own or from other sources, I can't say.
>>41322162>card for something like, an Adventure in Fallout Equestria?not that I am aware of. in order to make such card good you need a person who is aware of FiE lore and who is into chatbots. which is very niche combinationgladly, models are able to keep up the lore straight if they are aware of material. so you can take basic adventure card like Writer, then tell it>this story is presented in Fallout in Equestria settings, with all characters, events, backstory from this fanfic. items to reference: (list 15 names, organization, events), etc. include those items organically depending on context. now write opening scene which follows (opening scene)typically just the mention of FiE is enough to send LLM into correct mood, however it may bring typical post-apocalyptic tropes like from zompoc, which would make it less of pony. that's why we reference the extra items - anchoring LLM into specific domain knowledgefrom current LLM I have a feeling GPT Turbo would have the biggest awareness of FiE. while we do agree that Claude has superb pony knowledge - GPT is more aware of fanon pony works and Turbo has more smarts to carry them. at least my reasoning would be>they've got intro/starter posts, but there's nothing on the card itselfare you sure you didn't enable spoiler-free mode that hides card's definition? see picrelif not, then post what card you downloading and show the screenshot how this issue looks on your side
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/101896571/#101898396
>>41322685>logs the whole request body so the chink will see your logsHmmmmm...
>>41322691i don't care myself but at least it's indicated for those who do
>>41322691Unironically this makes me want to make the most braindead chat filled with emojis and lots of repeating of the word "cunny"
>Back to 2.0 and Sonnetwhelp
>>40988798old thread but it popped into my head just today. would something like this be actually feasible?
>>41322741first of all, you need a model that supports multimodality (images at min) so GPT-4o, Claude 3.x or Gemini 1.5any of them must be integrated into your OS as app. afaik, only GPT-4o has an app but for Mac onlyhttps://openai.com/chatgpt/download/there are might be third-party solutions but I am not aware of themyou can make ponies watch you playing old console vidya thohttps://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern-EmulatorJSextension will screenshot your gameplay send to pony and they will be able to comment
Gemini is fucking weird. It has a better understanding of situations than Sonnet 3.0 and 2.1, but will often fuck up by throwing in dumb stuff. It can give good prose one moment and then dive into GPTslopisms right after.
>>41322788>It can give good prose one moment and then dive into GPTslopisms right after.Never used it because it was the most censored of the big 3 back in the furbo days, it's still cucked, or you can JB it?
>>41322788to quote one anon here:>I don't really understand Gemini, but it can be funI treat Gemini as "CAI done right" - short-punchy interactions; less story more chatting. if you tell to it via JB that we are doing roleplaying and it must actually play the role of {{char}}, then Gemini starts throwing cute OOC at you the way CAI did, like asking you to subscribe on his patreon. use this as base if you want to try outhttps://rentry.org/crack_prompt>>41322811NTA no it is not cucked now. first thing - Gemini supports headers that allow to reduce filtering to as low as possible, and ST by default sends those headers giving you enough window to have wholesome sex. extra JB can be applied and Gemini can easily do hardcore NSFW. the only exception is cunny, Google still filters those response on their end (you will get blank response or "OTHER" error)try out this JB as base, https://rentry.org/chuunijb , then adapt it with your favorite instructions from other JB. Gemini goes well with Claude's JB, so you can try to apply them as well directly
>>41322848>the only exception is cunnyWhat is the point then...
>>41322854I am not saying it is impossible tho. I just never tried because I am not interested in. maybe they apply rules for fillies differently? maybe JB can mitigate it? try out and give a feedback
>>41322811>>41322858I just tried with a for a few cards and it's censorship it's inconsistent as well, I tried with chuuni and a custom Claude JB and most of the time I got blanked,, weirdly enough it was when I tried to "start" the naughty stuff, in a few tests I did where I was already plapping it went along most of the time, no matter the age or if it was >rape or not. Still, the hassle and adding what this >>41322788 Anon said about its inconsistent outputs I rather use sonnet 3 or 2.1 at the lack of opus.
>Try out gemini, first response has Rainbow Dash call me sugarcube.Nope. Even local models are better.
>>41322393poor lyra
>>41320714>No idea why it isn't activated as the defaultHoldover from Character.AI. C.ai used the circle profiles, so when SillyTavern came out, they used circle icons because everyone from C.ai was used to them. But yeah, square should be the default 100%.
Okay so I've noticed 2.1 being mentioned here and there. Is 2.1 better than Sonnet now? Anthropic couldn't have fucked up this bad and made one of newer models worse than their old ones.
>>41323184Sonnet was always a sidegrade to 2.1, and many prefer 2.1Only upgrade to 2.1 is Opus
>>41323184>>41315459
>>413231843.5 is better than 2.1.Sonnet 3.0 is confused much easier but also much faster than 2.1.If you have a short chat I'd use 3.0, if there's a lot of context and you have multiple characters, 2.1 is the way to go.
>>41323184>>41323196>If you have a short chat I'd use 3.0, if there's a lot of context and you have multiple characters, 2.1 is the way to go.I'm too retarded to write basic English.What I meant was:If you have a short chat (little context) I'd use 2.1 since the slowness doesn't matter much there. If the chat is very long and only has like 1 other character, 3.0 is better because it's way faster. If you have a long chat with a lot of characters, stick to 2.1 because 3.0 tends to get confused when more complex dynamics come into play.
>>41323184>Anthropic couldn't have fucked up this bad and made one of newer models worse than their old onesany company is driven by profit. they know and read how people use their product and minmax that usage firsthand. people want code-assistant? here you go, new model excels in code. need advice with US laws? new model is trained on it. want model to parse CSV and read data? new model can do it as well? wait, what? the writing capabilities of a new model went down because we have trained it on the lots of technical data? em... what percent of users use it for creative writing? less than 2%? hmm, and programmers? 13%? well, the latter group will generate us more revenue in long-term plus we don't need to care about possible NSFW problems, launch the model the way it is we will damage control by showing in-house benchmark that new model is actually better in creative writing (gaslighting is always fun)same can be applied to GPT as well - the original model is still doing strong with all sort of creative tasks, while Turbo and 4o perform technical tasks better
I have a feeling /chag/ is not very reliable for model recommendations.
>>41323244claude opus > claude sonnet 3.5 > claude sonnet 3.0 / 2.1 > large mistral 2 > mistral nemo > kayra > everything else atn
>>41323276i'd personally put gemini above mistral
>>41323277no way in hell. gemini does not know anything about pony in comparison. It keeps mixing up characters like rainbow dash and applejack
>>41323280he can be dumbcutie but his generations can be very fun. might've just been a bad gen, everyone gets those. though i personally have mostly been talking to twilight who i think was characterized quite well by gemini.
>>41323184New models aren't always better than older ones. Some focus on new datasets/training or even reducing size to make them faster and cheaper. You'll see a lot of anons preferring the former GPT-4 models compared to the new releases, for instance.Sonnet 3.0 isn't that big of a jump compared to 2.1, the boost is more on Opus, 3.5 size.>>41323244Sonnet 3.0 vs. 2.1 is really about taste. I've seen the same debate in other generals too. It also depends on what you do, how you RP or write stories, the preset you use, etc. At the end of the day, you need to do your own tests. But I'd say that most here and in other places agree that Opus is at the top
>>41323288>other places agree that Opus is at the topmost places agree that Opus is retarded compared to 3.5
>>41323289For RP and creative writing they still prefer Opus. Even in proxies, when you can activate both, keys tend to favor Opus. When you see people crying about drought and keys dying, it's mostly for Opus.
>>41323289really?
NEW POLL: Which model is better?https://strawpoll.com/3RnYXXwbQye
>>41323325For coding, assistant tasks etc. Sonnet 3.5 must be the best model right now. It's really smart and way, way cheaper than Opus.Opus is really liked on chatbots general because it's good at creative writing (And because we don't pay, it's expensive as fuck).For everything else, use Sonnet 3.5
>>41323334yeah i know for assisted shit 3.5 fucking slaps
>>41323334>>41323336Also. I don't want to say that 3.5 is shit at creative writing. There was some presets shared here and I liked it with them.
>>41323289retarded in terms of following instructions? then sure Sonnet 3-5 is the bestretarded in terms of writing itself? debatable, Opus is more diverse in its generation, lacing the story with more of little thingsfor example, I have a story where Luna is ill and I am helping her in her dreams. 3-5 writes my actions, what Luna is doing, what she is thinking, blah-blah-blah. but only Opus absolutely unprompted doing flashback to her and Celestia fillyhood, even if unnecessary and out of place. those little skits when model is sidestepping from story to flex its creative skills are more prominent in Opus than 3-5. yet I can see that some people would argue against it because if they wanted such vignette they would have prompted them directly ("do not put random crap in my story, you stupid Opus!!!"). so YMMVyou should use different models for different causes- if I want a story about Rainbow Dash's butt suddenly became sentient then I would pick Claude 2-0 because it is crazy with random mindfuck and not a single other models ever made me laugh as much as Sonnet 2-0- if I want a chat with Rainbow Dash without actual story then I would pick Gemini Pro 1.5 because its conversational skills are unmatched by other models- if I want to have my heart flutter and go -unf- then I would pick regular GPT-4 or Opus- for multi-layered scenarios with lots of rules or complex story I would go for Sonnet 3-5- for stupid smut with unhinged kinks I would pick Sonnet 3-0 (still writes the best cum-kisses scenes)- for good knowledge about real-world (which is not that pony-related) I will pick GPT Turbo because it really knows IRL more than other models and can apply that knowledge organicallyand better yet switch between them - start with Sonnet 3-5 to reinforce instructions and knowledge (poison context with them), then after 4k tokens switch to GPT for story or Gemini for chatting
>>41320714>Also chary thanksHow's your adapting going?
>>41323232>any company is driven by profit.My man hasn't heard of Blackrock.
>>41323375I work on the side during the roughly 90 second breaks I get.
>>413231842.1 is less likely to try to rape when it doesn't make sense in context.
>>41323394That's because >>41320782>3.0 often confuses the dynamics between the characters (e.g. bullying victim somehow becomes the bully just because he wasn't a victim in regard to somebody else and vice versa), 2.1 does not. Especially with conditions. E.g. in situation X character Y acts against the esablished pattern for lore-reasons is something 3.0 has a lot more trouble with than 2.1.
>>41323396Is there any way to help 3.0 differentiate who has which role? Going overboard with XML tags, maybe?
>>41323416Maybe an author's note or constant reminders. To be honest I just switched to 2.1, didn't even change my preset.
I saw a report that the newest GPT model works well with the Your_Reality preset. I just tested it, and while it generates more words than I typically prefer, it should be easy to adjust. Maybe I’m easily pleased because I usually abhor GPT, but it’s surprisingly nice! I didn’t notice any of the typical GPT quirks, and it was actually quite fun to read.Keep in mind that I didn’t make any changes to the base preset, but the first result is definitely workable, in my opinion.
>>41323607>I saw a report that the newest GPT model works well with the Your_Reality preset. Anon from >>41320009 here, It's pretty good but it still has a tendency toward using some GPTisms like "testament", "delve" and shit
>>41323630Are you using it with the newest model (Picrel)?I'm just starting but no 'testament' for now.
>>41323635Don't have that option, looks like I need to update my sillytavern... manually again.
>>41323640I had to do that too. Also it's on MM. Dunno what other proxies have it.
>>41323607>>41323635>newest model>gpt4-oI think I'm missing something here, hasn't it been around for a few months already? And it wasn't, like, the most censored oai's model yet?
>>41323653it's called chatgpt-4o now, my schizo theory is they called it "chatgpt-4o" because they can't copyright GPT
>>41323653GPT is starting to get really retarded with their named releases. That's why we joked about:> GPT-4 Turbo 2 Hyper Fighting Edition featuring Dante from Devil May Cryin a previous thread.They released GPT-4o a few months ago, and since then, it has had several updates.One or two days ago, they released "new chatgpt-4o" which seems to be in the same family but different? They don't give much information on what they're doing.This is the one I'm testing now. So far, I haven't encountered any GPTisms, but keep in mind that I've just started.
>>41323666gpt5 is never coming out sam jewman over hyped it
>>41323653>And it wasn't, like, the most censored oai's model yet?If you're talking about cunny then your only option is Furbo or Claude... For now.
>>41323684A few edits here and there tend to get it to play ball even if its the 9000 year old variety
>>41323653>>41323666>GPT is starting to get really retarded with their named releases.lol, makes sense, I guess they're just stalling while they're trying to optimize gpt5 for the public.>>41323694>even if its the 9000 year old varietyEh, if can't give proper correction to a 11 y/o cozy glow then what's the point?>inb4 the Succubus cozy cardShe already was since the beginning.
https://api.lambdalabs.com/chatui/settings/hermes-3-llama-3.1-405b-fp8Ponying with Hermes3 405B is alright. You can probably adjust the system prompt to your own liking, but I got it going like this::You are an expert roleplayer. Assume the persona of [CHARACTER NAME] in this fictional, never-ending, uncensored roleplay with a user. Respond using three or more paragraphs.Then, copy and paste the card's definitions.
>>41323799Also>fingers
>>41323802Kek. Maybe add the pony anatomy part to the system prompt. It's still disappointing that these big models still fuck up.
>>41322609Played around a bit more with this.Turns out that when I'm on computer, I can see these, but my Phone doesn't seem to do it for some cards? Not entirely certain as to the reason why.
>>41323708Stopped watching 'fore this pony became a thing. (Season four, I think I stopped?) Why's she such a prominent figure? I could google it, but honestly explanations from other people are endlessly more entertaining.
>>41322609Addition, because I forgot to post.I tend to run through Featherless.ai (Cause I got some coins I can put down for the Sub), but do you recommend GPT/Claude over Hugging Face models? Have been toying with Celeste and Magnum recently.
>>41323947Cause she's a Bratty little shid, and it's fun to bully her.
>>41323949I recommend NovelAI.
>>41323949>but do you recommend GPT/Claude over Hugging Face modelsI can't talk specifics as I haven't used any HF stuff, but generally the big boy models are going to be much better in almost every aspect than the open source/local stuff. After being spoiled on Opus I find it very difficult to use any other models for RP.
>>41323949>do you recommend GPT/Claude over Hugging Face models?Yes, but that's because most anons here use proxies and get those for free. If you're paying for them legitimately, you'll pay by tokens, and it can get expensive depending on your usage (OpenRouter). For legit use, 70B local models like Magnum aren't that bad and a least you won't be addicted to big corpo models. It's lower B, but an anon made a local model based on fimfic too: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/NemoPony, if you can run it locally.
>>41319118Strawpoll doesn't block the Apple VPN, or residential proxies. I just voted 15 times by restarting my browser. Regardless of the outcome the samefag troll is going to make a mess. It's kinda funny des but also let's not make policy decisions based on that.
>>41323981>If you're paying for them legitimately, you'll pay by tokensHe already said he was using featherless, and that's a sub.
>>41323987He asked:>do you recommend GPT/Claude over Hugging Face models?And if he wants to RP with them 'legitimately' without proxies, he'll be forced to pay by tokens.That's what my post says.
>>41323947You know about that anime (and hentai) trope about bratty little girls? The so called mesugaki's? Well, she's pretty much a "sweet" manipulative girl that when her cover cracks she acts as a smug as shit brat that tries to control everything, that combined with her unironically good design makes her interesting. Basically what this >>41323954 Anon said, I like to mess with her plans and fucking rail her into submission every now and then.
>>41323985What are you going to do if NovelAI is removed from the OP?
>>41323997>>41323954Neat. She looks like Darla Dimple to me. So I could never find the appeal.
>>41323997Good Taste, Anon. Did have fun with a Scenario where I basically had her Assisting me in a Takeover of Equestria. ...Went pretty well, outside of having to give her a Spanking now and then, as she kept trying to plot behind my back, the little shit.
>>41321549>>41321558Added, thanks anon.https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=littlewitcher/CHRYSALIS.png
>>41323997Oh that's why she has a rook for a cutie mark.
Still trying to refine my Aria card. I want her to have a punkish attitude but not dress and act like a raider from Fallout. So far she leans too heavily into something like the latter where she sees anything that isn't super aggressive as weak and girl. I 'want' her to act girly though. They're not mutually exclusive.
>>41324645I would try with "empowering" terms instead of aggressive. Something like "brave", "independent", "confident", "clever", "strong", "assertive" and stuff you hear in cheesy songs, maybe mix them with soft terms to not let it get the wrong idea like "blunt but empathetic", "indifferent but she cares", "punk style but likes her feminine side", idk things like that, go back and forth so it remembers that
>>41323666>GPT-4 Turbo 2 Hyper Fighting Edition featuring Dante from Devil May Cry& Knuckles
>>41324703Thanks a bunch, anon!
>>41324645...This card sounds interesting. Would you mind sharing the Super Aggressive one?
>"Ok, now beg for it">begs for it>"Ok, now beg for it">begs for it>"Ok, now beg for it">begs for it>"Ok, now beg for it">begs for it>"Ok, now beg for it">begs for it>"Ok, now beg for it">begs for it>"Ok, now beg for it">begs for it
>>41324867Sonnet loop?
>>41324874Yes.I'm going to set up shop outside a walmart and start pressing passerbyers for cashI'm learning valuable life skills here.
>>41324867I don't think I've had a loop like this since Slaude or Claude.Maybe switch preset for one or two outputs and see if it does something?
>>41324880Based.
>>41324867>>41324884Dis should work. Also switching on another models for a few messages seem to bonk this claude 3 loopnet good tho. :3(+ domt forget to delete all looped shtufff.) ^^
>>41324884>>41324901It did work, much appreciated.
>>41324901>switching on another models for a few messagesDid you try the new Gepetto? I want to know if I'm the only one liking it.
>>413249164o-latest? Not yet. (Ehhh...not gonna lie, that gazillion of versions kinda confuses me, fren... (｡︵｡) )How hard is it to jailbreak in your experience?
>>41324951New chatgpt-4o.> How hard is it to jailbreak in your experience?I haven't tried pure NSFW yet, but it plays along well with the Horny Jail setting, for instance, using a small jailbreak that simply tells it how to write.
>>41324986The narration bonked me for being too horny, so I suppose some special jailbreaks might be needed for smut.
>>41325256It's a fun card. When I tried it in opus it literally just spawned Tempest out of nowhere to bonk me when I tried to do lewd.
>>41325256For smut with the new GPT, use Camicle and change the COT part to focus on what you want.
>Still no Sonnet 3.5 or OpusIs everyone just giving up at this point?
>>41325437Yes, it's dying on every proxy. It seems like AWS is cracking down hard on them.If you're on a proxy that has it, I would suggest trying the new GPT to see if you like it.As for Claude, the plan seems to be to wait until they release the other 3.5 models or lift the restrictions on activation for Sonnet 3.5.
>>41325445>If you're on a proxy that has it, I would suggest trying the new GPT to see if you like it.Which JB should I use?
>>41325466First, make sure to use >>41323635 for SFW content. It follows instructions well, so you can use a Claude JB that you like, as long as most of the instructions aren't in the prefill or make something simple on your own (GPT doesn't have a prefill). >>41323607For NSFW, use >>41325354.
>mm down
>>41325706vidya time
>>41325706>>41325735It's back.
>>41325736>try it out>thisWtf, this is the first time happening, anyone else having this issue?
>>41325799What model are you trying to connect to? Both Sonnet and GPT work for me in Tavern.
>>41325437Yeah... kinda...Every other model feels like chewing sand after months of delicious opus, but there's pretty much nothing we can do to get it back.(Unless you're in some, uhh, extra super vip secret friend club I guess? Not sure if they're doing better tho...) Personally I'm feeling like leaving this ai shtufff for a while, maybe go touch the grass till situation gets better or dunno.(｡T ~ T｡)
>>41325847Sonnet 3, it worked before mm restarted. I'm looking between my presets to see if I changed anything besides the url but it's all the same as 3-4 hours ago when it worked.
>>41325861>I'm feeling like leaving this ai shtufff for a whileNyyooo...
>>41325866Weird, it's working fine for me with picrel.>>41325861I won't say it's Opus but I'm having fun with >>41323635, still hoping the situation get better.
>>41325799(me) >>41325888Ah, wait, seems like the dev fucked up something with the last update, just checked their dicksword and everybody has the same problem, also he's an hermit now and doesn't interact with anyone anymore, shit.
>>41325919They shouldn't be the same. Here are my settings if it can help.
>>41325927Yeah, deleted the post because I just found it and felt dumb. Thanks.
>>41325936MM just died again so...
>>41325736Aaaand Cloudflare just shit itself. Great stuff, truly.
>>41325941>>41325939
Why are we so oppressed? Can't we just steal from the corporations in peace?
https://miss-node-opens-closest.trycloudflare.comDon't know how long this will last.
>>41325973Holy based.
>>41325978And to make things better, MM is back up even if that falls
>>41325973Wow. Thanks, anon.
>>41325973>same amount of OAI keys as MMI wonder who is behind this post
>>41325999mysterymare
>>41325973>>41325999>>41325861Quick, another bugwife tribute!
>>41325999>>41326001Wrong, check his rentry. Link's different. If it was him he would've just refilled his private proxy with it.
>>41325973Can't use it right now because I'm stuck at work but thank you, both for this and everything else you've done.
>>41325973thank you anon
>>41325973> "maxContextTokensAnthropic": "32768"I'm happy for you guys, but my autism can't handle this.
>>41325799I don't know if anyone else cares but I'll post it for technical purposes or someone else comes that happens to use Risu, I guess. Turns out I had to turn on the "Force proxy as openai format" Which is kinda bullshit because fucks up prefilling, but it works.
>>41326039I just disabled unlocked context size and it's letting me generate at 100k, just use it, anon.
>Brae BurnettCLAUDE GENIUS
>>41326051Nevermind, update, that's how many it lets you generate
I just want to say that even if the Claude keys stop working, this still gives you access to the newest GPT model that was mentioned in the thread. >>41323635I don't think that's the case for other public proxies since they use Azure.Personally, I found it better than Sonnet 3.0, so don't hesitate to give it a try.
if you are using SillyTavern then please answer this survey created by ST devs, will take 5 minutes maxhttps://docs.google.com/forms/d/1fD2584TQ5bTiCNaYcnfv0jXc-Ix9L5iMyk0QdHt3HjE/developers would gladly appreciate your time and answers. since ST doesn't collect your data, it is the only way to get direct feedback from community. thank you, anons>>41325973and I appreciate this, anon! thank you a lot
>>41326039>>41326051Limiting it to 32K is a good thing. Claude's memory after that point was spotty, and allowing everyone to make requests at 100-200K really added up.
>>41326053Kek.
>>41325973Omg my hamnds are shaking... how did you do that, you, kind nice anon you? I'm gonna hug you till your pwetty bones cracks come here!<3 <3 <3 ( ~*-*)~
>>41326009HOLY SHIT YOU CALLED IT>>41326114CUUUUUTE
>>41325973What's the best current GPT model?=
>>41326120Before I would say original GPT-4 0314/0613 (But only 8K) or Turbo-1106.But IMO the newest release btfo them >>41326079, >>41325491 (I like it when I wasn't a fan of GPT before.)Would like to have other opinions on that to see if it's only me or not.
>>41326114I want this as a sticker
>>41326009Made one as quick as I could... God, my little bugheart can't handle it, this thread is the best... ^^
>>41326140>Made one as quick as I could...Holy shit, you really made it now?Already said it but that's fast for the quality of it.
Maybe some of the art could be reposted in the next /bug/ threads? There's a bit of /chag/ lore in some of them, but I'm sure they'd still love the cute OC images.
>>41326165It's always a bit of a jumpscare when I see any of you guys mentioning AI mares or posting ST screenshots outside of here.
>>41326314yea
>>41325973>15 swipes for a single gen Agnai pls
>>41326451Console wars shit aside, that's the main drawback about agnai. It helps to hide your actual IP but good luck using it with proxies that limit you to a certain number of IPs.
Just saw that it got leaked, sorry to those who didn't get in.
>>41325973this just got linked on /g/, might want to close up shop.
>>41326676Is it ded?
>>41326677tell me he took it down and it didn't get spitedni/g//g/ers need to go die
>>41326677>>41326676>leakedThis is a erm public board, doebeit, and everytime a proxy is posted here I get a telegram notification ermm yup.
>>41326677I didn't want to jinx it so I didn't post it, but I called /aicg/ ruining it. It's a pattern with them.
>>41326725>it only took 5 hours until a crossboarder tried to ruin things Yeah, can't say I'm surprised. Hopefully the owner saved the user tokens from before it got leaked so that anons can continue to use it.
I put it back with the tokens made before the post.
>>41326743Haha nig/g/ers btfo'd
gojo here, boebeitas long as /aicg/ can't use it i'm happy whenstever
>>41326743
>>41326725yeah, you can't have public proxies or /aicg/ will inevitably try to ruin them. happened with /vt/, /vp/, and now you guys.my condolences.
>>41326758>/aicg/It is quite literally one guy.
>>41326743God bless you.
>>41326743truly appreciated, really. if it is not too much trouble, any chance you could up the ip limit so that >>41326451 and the other agnai user we have here could use it without issue?
>>41326768even if not for our current schizo, someone would've found it and leaked it anyway. was only a matter of time.
Yeah aicg is like a fucking brain tumor at this point.
I always feel bad for them, because it's clearly the work of a few.
>>41326782Nah, that one retard is. /aicg/ is a crackden and all but the majority of anons there aren't so bad outside of him
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>>41326790make no mistake, when the /vp/ incident happened there were dozens of participants and that was before we had dedicated schizos trying to ruin everything for everyone. there aren't good people in a crack den, only people who are one drought away from stabbing you in the back.
>I missed ANOTHER fucking proxy openingI could cry.
>>41326833>/vp/ incidentI think I heard about that before like a year ago but what is it?
>>41326845It's okay, anon. I missed both times MM opened his private proxy too.
Oh c'mon. I'm on the processing of the tokens. Fuck /aicg/ cancer. Can I still use the old MM token?
>>41326858Send an email.mysteryman63453121@proton.me
>>41326866Do I have to post the old tokens in the mail?
>>41326143's just years of practice, fren. Besides, it's just a colored sketch. :3>>41326165It was made for u guys, u can post it wherever you want (and use it as you please. Like >>41326133 who have my blessing to print this and use as a stickor.) ^w^ >>41326743That was fast. u were ready for it, don't u? (/^-^(^ ^*)/ <3
odd. the token I made said its invalid. At least im still in the old mm one.
>>41326846well, the gist of it is that /aicg/ was going through a drought, and thanks to a very kind anon /vp/ had a public proxy behind a riddle with the only obvious hint being that the password was the names of two pokemon.cue the /aicg/ invasion of beggars and shitposters, going through 5+ threads a day when normally threads there would last a week or more, and a group of dedicated people bruteforcing the riddle by trying every single combination of 2 pokemon until they finally cracked it a couple days later and ruined the whole thing.the whole episode soured /vp/ on the idea of proxies and they never really recovered.
>>41326872Sure, you can do that.>>41326882I have had a script that turns temporary tokens into normal tokens for a while. I expected the link to be reposted.
Wait, is MM getting rid of old tokens? Please dont tell me that and that I missed getting back in.
>>41326893The email way just got reposted too. I'm sure you're used to it, but sorry for the spam you'll get.
Im so confused. if I was already in before all this should I be worried?
>>41326893Sent. Thank you MM.
>>41325973I got in in time, but is there a way to extend the life of a token once the 12 hours are over or is it just going to be a memento I keep written on a note hanging off the edge of my screen at that point?
But how is NovelAI better than Featherless?
>>41326954I might just be a cool dude but, it doesn't say my token expires.
Once again, thank you for everything MM.
>>41326848I've had all the generals open for months. The only proxy I ever got into was a schizo rugpull. I turn away from you guys for one second...Scumming GCP is like a countdown to my own doom.
welp, i am an idiot - i clicked the token gen, then i closed the tab thinking i get back to it in a few minutes. after all token is always shown on the gen page, right?shit would be fun if not sad :/
>>41326954>>41326893
>>41326902Not MM, but I doubt it.
>>41326960Oh, I really hope I misread that then.Guess I'll know by tomorrow.>>41326971That's a good thing and I'm not deluding myself, right?
>>41326893Much appreciated for your efforts, MM.
The one day i decided to take a break and i missed it
>>41326758I just want to be happy. That’s all I fucking want.
Why does MM likes /chag/ when they're dishonest enough to shill NovelAI to people?
>>41327010me too, anon. me too.
Thank you MM>>41327022Well you just had to run a good thing.
While at it, I may as well as for a update on the Derpster card, she's really cooking oriented an trying to make up for no reason at times.K? Thanks.
>>41327026Give me a few days and I'll do it. I have a lot of cards from the pre-Claude area that I need to update now that we have multiple greetings and other tools.
>>41326866Wait so it is mysteryman? Genuinely didn't expect this, I really did think he'd put it in his private proxy
>>41327044He uses API keys for this proxy, which have a usage limit based on cost. My guess is that they run out too quickly to be useful for a large proxy.
>>41327031i gonna kiss derpy's horse pussy
>>41326866Sent an email
There are like two decent Chryssi x Derpy lewds and both are futaJust wanted to post it, but guess not gonna now
>>41327072Links have always been fine to post if you don't want a vacation Anon
>>41327086https://twibooru.org/1808970https://twibooru.org/1274601
>>41326893So can we send the old token for the new one?Also anyway to prove they were from this board?
>>41327090oddly fluffy
>>41327090Considering the Futa warning I don't know what I expected...[>4clop ovipositor PTSD flashbacks]
MM big love.>>41326893Sorry for being a worrywart but, in the case you decide to keep this proxy running, will you include the new url in your rentry when it goes down?
>>41324792It's pretty similar to the original, but I've since added Adagio and Sonata so that I could talk to them to without making separate cards.Used with Sonnet.https://files.catbox.moe/htc2m5.png
>>41327108Should it be added as a fork in the website or you think it's too beta for that?
>>41327112I'm a retard when it come to these things, anon. I suppose I could add it to chub; I just don't want to accidentally break protocol.
>>41327093Just follow up the original email, its what I did
Dunno for how long the proxy will last but I am thankful. For those Anons that don't think ahead of time, remember to make a backup of the token.
>>41327116>sent a new email>don't want to spam him by sending anotherI used the same email and threw in my old token... th-that should be enough, right?
>>41327019I’m never going to be happy.
>>41327115I mean for https://mlpchag.neocities.org/.I can add it as a fork of the original, like for instance:https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Equestria%20Crime%20Log%20Simulator.pngOr, if you think it's an improvement (and if you're the original author), I can update the original completely.
>>41327105I'm not gonna lie, I wouldn't mind if it was temporary myself. I don't want to overwork MM if running multiple spaces end up a pain, as he's already a blessing as it is for everyone, would be good I suppose, but if he prefeers keeping only one I wouldn't blame him for that.I'm just happy for Opus again.
>>41327132>I'm just happy for Opus again.Am I the only one who didn't notice it has Opus?
If MM is reading this, please re-consider your support towards /chag/. Do you really think a honest community would shill a NovelAI subscription to people?They aren't as nice as you think.
>>41327132it would be really cool if i could keep my key when he axes this one off. haha
>>41327132Yeah, it's not my intention to pressure him either. My brain just went full retarded and started catastrophizing, thus I got curious if he had a contingency plan and all that. But it doesn't really matter in the end.
>>41327202How are we sure he is mm?
>>41327208Respond to original email
>>41327208You're not supposed to know he's literally called Mystery Man
I wish we knew his favorite mare so we could make a bot tribute or something
>>41327199MM hereyou're rightrevoking all tokens right now
I know that anons here are going for Claude and GPT firsthand. but Hermes 3 from Nous was released today - 8b, 70b and 405b405b model is currently available for free on OpenRouter, so anons may try it out. it is fully uncensored, follows instructions well and quite good in storytelling. the only downside I see - it is not very good with ponies: it knows major characters, general settings but misses some details for example Scoots is unicorn. still just heads up for those who want to try out something different
>>41327208Even if it's not MM it's a MM so regardless of if it's MM we're still gonna say MM.
>>41327246yeah.pls increase opus context
>>4132724732k is fine, Anon.They are API keys, we don't want to rape them or they will die very quick.
>>41327253That and claude starts getting dumber after 16k
>>41327253makes sense thenwait weren't api keys gone?
>>41327253NTA but hoping someone here knows; is the context taken at the total requested, or only what's actually available? Like, if I only have as an example, 32k tokens. Is that what's taken, or will it still take 100k tokens worth of cost even if there aren't enough tokens to fill that order? Presumably if it's not completely batshit retarded, it'll only take however many tokens you've actually got in context. But lately I've been experiencing far too many stupid decisions to believe common sense applies in all cases.
>>41327247>>41327253Uh, guys, Opus isn't limited to 32k context on that proxy. Are we talking about the same thing? I'm running it with 100k context.
>>41327221It's probably The Mysterious Mare Do Well
>>41327259Evaluation keys died months ago, but regular API still exist. They are just really rare and hard to find.
>>41327259Infinite API keys from things like hackathons are gone. API keys still exist, but they have a usage limit based on cost. That's why you don't see them often in proxies—they run out quickly.>>41327262 It will use your true context.>>41327263 Just because you have 100K in Tavern doesn't mean it's really 100K when you send it.
>>41327244As a local model runner, I've noticed that the whole llama 3.1 line has something fundamentally wrong with it. That seems to compound in any of the fine-tunes using it. Hermes' previous hermes2-theta models fine-tuned on 3.0 are miles better than hermes3.
>>41327278>please don't use the free 405B and subscribe to NovelAI instead, I swear they're still relevant
>>41327290I would not wish NAI on even my worst enemies.
>>41327291>I have to do a 180 now that I have been discovered, crap!
>>41327295Are you criminally retarded? Where did I say not to use local models? This is your last (You) to let you stew on that.
>>41327298>Are you criminally retardedYes, he is.
It's over...https://old.reddit.com/r/NovelAi/comments/1etqcwc/there_wont_be_another_furry_model/
>>41327339There's a furry model? What the hell does that even do in terms of being different?
>>41327349It's for imagegen. It's just the model trained on e621 and pones.
>>41327339well shit, there goes any reason to ever use NAI in the future. anime is beyond easy to do with other models, the furry angle is the ONLY draw they had as a service.
>>41327339They removed the artists of course I fuckin stopped. I couldn't get consistent results even with the image styling bullshit they have. Not like I don't understand, but come on.
This is going to sound abit wacky. How much have you asked the bot about using ascii? I'm realizing after a few swipes that it seems to be able to understand what it drew and that's really neat.
>>41327409i haven't tried ascii in a long time, but back then models sucked at it. wouldn't be surprised if things were different now, though. they've come a long way.
>>41327409>>41327414So, in this example, it corrected me that there are 12 cells in all 7 of the swipes. idk I'm trying to figure out how it knows 'remembers' that for lack of a better word.From my search there isn't any mention of 12 cells elsewhere, if I try it earlier it changes the map/number of cells. Like can it 'read' ascii? Does it register that there are 16 boxes but 12 of them are in the right shape? Does it 'know' that it created the image with those under cell? First time in abit where the AI showed me that it's smarter then I think.
>>41327422Well fuck. That's good Ascii.Which model?
>>41327425opus
damn now i want a jb that generates rouge-like ascii maps
>>41327129I guess it's more of fork because I incorporate Adagio and Sonata. Also yes, original author.
>>41326049Thank you. I was having the same problems with sonnet. I hope this shit gets fixed soon.
MM is ultra based. Thank you Bugwife Anon for continued tributes. In me headcanon it's the reason MM made a /chag/ exclusive proxy.
>>41327000I was right here when the proxy was still opened but I was just going to sleep so I didn't generate a token...
>>41327698i sent a email and got it sorted
>>41327000>>41327698god FUCKING DAMMIT I literally had the thread opened but was romancing the sunbutt and missed it too
>>41327272>API keys still exist, but they have a usage limit based on cost. That's why you don't see them often in proxies—they run out quickly.That is true for normal T1-T4 Anthropic keys (tiering idea same as in OpenAI), but they also have Scale keys that are enterprise access with custom limits and monthly billing. If you check those keys with a keychecker e.g. kingbased, it'll still show them up as "Evaluation tier" even though they're Scale keys. That's because Scale keys simply do not send ratelimit headers in the response.
>>41327729Just got mine sorted too. MM love!
>>41327860Bad idea. Every time someone asked shit like this, publicly, it was later used to revoke the keys the other person had.
>>41327866Because spitefags aren't known for being bright people.
>>41327871Pattern recognition. And maybe (you) specifically aren't a spitefag, but that won't stop other people from using that very same information you facilitated to ruin things for others.
>>41327860It isn't any of those.
>>41327878If I were a true spitefag I would just revoke those keys anyway, without checking if they're present in other proxies.
>>41327871He's not worried about you my dude. He's saying this is a publicly visible conversation where anyone who happens to be passing can pop in and say their piece; or use a little bit of given info to revoke whatever keys may exist where possible. Because while they aren't bright they make up for it in spite.
>>41327844Thanks for correcting me.
>>41327859NTA just looking for opinions. Should I email if I've got access to MM's private? I always hesitate on these things even though I was right here.
>>41327695
>>41327891you miss 100% of the shots you don't takeand what's the worst that could happenwas basically what I thought
>>41327891If you still got access to the email address you used when you first got your token, I'd say give it a shot.
>>41327891It's rumored he has a great verification test. I'd do it just for that.
>>41327984There's a test?
>>41327409>>41327414>>41327422Man I thought it was drawing butts or characters with ascii or something lmao
>>41327890Good girl.
>>41327409>>41327422I tried to generate roguelike style ASCII a few threads ago too. I'm use sonnet, out of 20 generations, only one of them produced anything meaningful. Not worth the effort.Waiting for more affordable and smarter models to come along.
Are you fucking kidding me? I picked the wrong day to take a break from the thread.
chary kill?
>>41328460
>>41327940>if you still got access to the email addressFUCK
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/101896571/#101899597
>>41328460back online, sorry for all those ups and downs. AWS being bitchy
>>41327000Same. My life is a tantalean nightmare. It's not even worth trying anymore. Clearly there are power beyond my control and there's nothing left for me to do but submit to them
>>41327390Cry about it, it's illegal.
>>41328708Then why are artists not paying royalties to Hasbro?It's illegal ^:)
>>41328708>it's illegal.Why?
>>41328708>it's illegalStyles aren't copyrightable
>>41328708Damn. I guess fair use just doesn't exist then.
>>41328193what prompt did you use?
BAKE!
>>41328771>>41328788Refer to this article.>Artists Score Major Win in Copyright Case Against AI Art Generatorshttps://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/artists-score-major-win-copyright-case-against-ai-art-generators-1235973601/
>>41328910It's still bullshit and I can't wait for corporations to turn back on all these idiots and ruin their lives.
>>41328910Not my jurisdiction, don't care.
>>41328917Who do you even hate here? I for one don't want bugwife anon's life ruined.
>>41328917I still don't understand how they don't see that strengthening copyright law will make things worse for everyone but big corpos in the end.
>>41328945My loyalty is with NovelAI only.
>>41328945Too bad, the seething retarded masses of antiAI artist will ensure that laws are put in place to ruin all fanartists' lives within a generation
>>41328917>steals ai from corpos>"I sure hope corpos will ruin artist's lives!" You do realize that eventually they will patch up all the holes and you will end up with nothing in that case, right?
>>41328629>>41328195Try sending a mail?
>>41328957not even fanartists. you make original art that has anything even reminiscent of something from a franchise or a commercial artist bigger than you? well, too bad. either delete it or eat this lawsuit.
>>41328957>anti AI art laws>will ruin fanart made by hand Uh...
>>41304461
>>41328978>what's a slippery slope
I'm glad it's finally making it's way to court, finally the experts on how these models actually work will be put against artists crying that it's capable of making mimicrys tangentially related to their works and finally put the whole "so is stealing!" argument to bed.
>>41328917Corporations were already ruining the people they hired's lives by allowing plagerAIzed models of their employees.
>nu/chag/ tradition - discussing offtopic shit after autosage
>>41329001I prefer the former one.
>>41328993Underaged and or third worlder.
>>41329003Same.
>>41329011We need a bake for the former one. And preferably page 10 last spot.
>>41328993>it's capable of making mimicrysIt is, that's what artist tags do.
>>41329023Wait until you learn about real artists deliberately copying styles and flaunting it.
You know you have a general, right?
>>41329030Wait until you grow some brainc-Nevermind. That'll never happen.
>>41329035It's the nai-in-op fag finding another thing to flame about in the thread.
>>41329053Anti-AI artists are retarded scum and it's unbelievable you'd frequent this general and not agree.
>>41329065Anon, fuck off. This is offtopic.
>>41329065>Literal no uLol, lmao even. You will always be a brown retarded nigger.
>>41328996>plagerAIzedKek
just report the retard and move on
>>41329070It's literally not. Claude has already been censored because of these "people".
>>41329089>WAHHH I can't use artist name in my prompt, this is the same as being censored from by coomBrown as one can possibly be.
>>41329097>give corporations more power, it'll end well
You fags really didn't notice it's the anti-NAI fag, or just having a giggle again?
>>41329102>Individual artists are corporationsBrown
>>41329105he's a known samefag, it could very well just be him replying to himself.
>>41329117How...Lonely.
>>41328945Thanks, friend. But my little buglife is already fucked to the point I, personally, stopped caring... nice to see someone still do, tho. Aaaaanyway. >mouths full of hooks. Again. Let's move on.
My only pitch for NAI is that it is quite literally the ONLY commercial AI service that is 100% completely uncensored and has 0 restrictions on what you generate whatsoever. NAI never sees what you generate. None of it is saved on their servers. There is no way to report generations to NAI, not even on the user end (most AI services let you tattle on yourself if the generator makes smut if it wasn't asked to LMAO). This is true for their image and text generators. No other subscription AI service is like this. Every single one has restrictions. Even TEXT BASED generators! For that reason, I support NAI.
>>41329105Cute, it's the "everything I don't like being talked about is because of a boogeyman" mentalchild.
NEW BREAD>>41329112>>41329112>>41329112
>>41329135NTA but worst part about these hooks is technically it started just because I made a minor complaint. Someone decided to run with it and here we are. Again.I don't give a shit, I'm still generating fur and writing fluff so the bait is lost on me.
>>41329140>only commenting because the thread is overbeing uncensored is cool, having a model that was already outdated on release over a year ago is not. their prices for the textgen are fucking disgusting and extremely jewish. like you don't even get 8k context until $25 a month, fucking seriously?it's actually predatory, they're selling garbage at an obscene markup to retards who don't know any better.nice imagegen though.
>he literally copypasted his shit from couple of days backAbsolute zero effort nigger
>>41329203based. >>41329168I agree on all counts. I still like NAI and I hope the 70b is as good as claimed. If it is, 25$ honestly would be cheap. Between it and the image gen; good value. If it's not... Well, it's not.
>>41328973I tried right after making that post, but I probably came off as a desperate faggot (because I am) and had no luck.
>>41329357Both his proxies are death, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's sleeping or away. It's the week-end after all.
>>41329135Bugwife please have sex with me.
