Welcome to Chatbot AI General #98, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.▶ MLP Botshttps://mlpchag.neocities.orgSpreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJTCAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zipExpression packs: https://rentry.org/ChagExpressionsGallery: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U▶ How do I start?1) Select a Frontend2) Select an AI model3) Select Jailbreak4) Select bots5) Lovemaking with AI mares!Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrms▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernOn Android: https://rentry.org/STAI-TermuxApp that voices pony responses in ST: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB▶ More frontends:Risu: https://risuai.xyzAgnai: https://agnai.chat▶ Locals>>>/g/lmg/Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main▶ JailbreaksMLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxeMore JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listingHypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb▶ BotmakingEditors: https://agnai.chat/editorGuides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listAdvanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks▶ /chag/ dustbin of historyhttps://rentry.org/ChagArchivePrevious thread: >>41591160▶ Current theme: NoneNews:-3.5 Haiku out https://www.anthropic.com/claude/haiku-Grok-2 is out on API https://docs.x.ai/api-OpenAI has released o1-latest, trained with a built-in CoT prompt https://openai.com/index/introducing-openai-o1-preview
Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.Previous >>41591162
Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Updates, Models etc.)
Anchor for asking for bots, lorebooks, scenarios etc.
Bots corner:>Crimsonshyhttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=MaudPie/Crimsonshy.png>Bodyswaphttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Bodyswap.png>Amber Gloomhttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Ponyo/Amber%20Gloom.png>Spooquestriahttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Spooquestria.png>Mistress Moonbow (Goth Izzy)https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Tiffin/Mistress%20Moonbow.png>Aunt Holidayhttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Tiffin/Mistress%20Moonbow.png>EQG Fluttershy Updatehttps://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Maverick074/Fluttershy.pngLorebook EQG >>41620599Screenshots corner:Quest unlocked >>41591451Mayor of Pound Town >>41591486Bodyswap >>41592740Pillow fight >>41592965New Story >>41595652Like an animal >>41596282Lets Go Flying >>41598346Cute Dullahan >>41599178
Screenshots corner 2:Spookquestria >>41602683Not just candies >>41603728Seems Legit >>41604016Fighting against pony pussy >>41604273Mareiterranean Sea >>41605741Polycuddlery >>41608072Cute autist >>41609620Gnomed >>41609848Brap out of nowhere >>41612847
Screenshots corner 3:Buenos Dias Chrysalis >>41615660Eat The Bug >>41615039, >>41615116Haiku3.5 test >>41616345Blonde CUTE Bone Stealer >>41617738Lewd >>41618051CWord >>41621226
>>41621800Phew, she's back to normalThose red eyes and the knowledge of what she could do were haunting my chats...
>>41621851 I still use her card or portrait when I’m using the AI for non-RP stuff. She’s a cutie.
>>41621871Yea she's my stock too per se, I'm glad the Anon shared her
>The AI Executive Order is going to be repealed.https://x.com/AndrewCurran_/status/1854123653753098711
>>41622020>from July 2024I am not sure, Anon, lots of things were changed in further timespan, including that kid's death, and release of new thinking AI (I know it is a marketing hype but try to tell it to politicians). in addition once Republicans learn that AI can be used to generate porno(!) with kids(!!) they can play the same "muh uncivil" card. also, Project 2025 is aiming at porno-industry quite harsh, and it was mentioned in pol talks more often that this C-SPAN memorandum. but if they indeed will lax the filter then count me in! hope you are right tho
>>41622020Not to be a Nothing Ever Happens poster, but politicians are not to be trusted about whatever they said during their campaigns.It would be neat if it actually got repealed though.
>>41622047im too lazy to scrape /pol/ for good discusions on project 2025 but what would happen if it became a thing?
>>41622047Muh 25 is Muh Russia of 24.
>>41622118whats is the muh russia of 24?
>>41622120Muh Russia was 2016
>>41622125ok what did putin do in 2016?
>>41622128 Nigga, go look it up. Don’t spam the thread with this.
>>41622128Absolutely fuckall that's the point. It was a CIA made up smear campaign to paint Trump as literally hitler aligned, and they quietly admitted to it later that every FBI correspondent who would sign off on it was full of shit
Fuck is the chat-gpt-40-latest proxy dead
>>41622139 There are still some working. I’d check the last messages of the previous thread.
what preset do you people use with latte
>>41622180 For SFW, either https://files.catbox.moe/yvlncj.json (can do some NSFW too under certain conditions) or >>41563493. If you’re looking for NSFW, try the options here: https://rentry.org/lattejb I like Smiley, but I know some prefer Knotty or Avani. So check them out and see what works for you.
I know it’s not our best period, but:Anchor so you can post your suggestions for the next /chag/ event.> Theme guidelines:- Make sure the themes are open-ended enough for people to get creative. We’re a niche general, so if the theme’s too specific, it’ll flop.- No past themes for now: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/event- No fetish or overly NSFW themes.
>>41622174The only thing I'm seeing is the chary proxy page. I guess I should've figured something would happen as the page had become a cringe mess spouting whatever but I didn't think it die overnight. For fucks sake I didn't even get to use it for a week straight.
>>41622192Read the rentry better.
>>41622193I already went though the song and dance of the rentry page, the link it leads too is the thing that's fucking dead.
>>41622199Can't help you better than that, but go do >>41622174 for real.
>>41622190Locations.
>>41622204Okay I need it explained like I'm dumb. Which rentry am I looking for.
>>41622190my proposition is:>"what could possibly go wrong?"an umbrella-term to cover the ideas after which you want to say phrase above. think of it as a catchphrase you can mentally put into greetings somehow. Celestia and Luna went on vacation and put {{user}} in charge of kingdom - what could possibly go wrong? new mare moved into neighborhood, she acts strange and {{user}} decided to check her shed - WCPGW? Twilight misfired a spell and turned into nonstop estrus machine with huge horsecock - WCPGW indeed?
>MM is back>but he changed the 14 to 1I really wish I knew what the fuck is up with that.
>>41622305keys maybe?
>>41622226>>41621474
>>41622322I really hope that it's not the case.
>>41622190Mare objects or object mares.
>>41622335marenitor
>>41622305It was 14 on 10/24, so it’s been 13 days since.Maybe something will happen tomorrow.
>>41622357How ominous.
thanks the pinkie pie therapist, ive been able to stabilize and narrow down my list of workable models, its impressive how much that char do both in term of environment shenanigan and character speech pattern, started with over 60 models, reduced to 12, then down to 8 ,and now down to 5, these are the best ones around if you run them locally, until something else comes out, i cannot recommend these enough- unslopped nemo (rocinante is the best for char speech pattern, if you have someone that speak in uwu or permanent rage, this is your model- violet twilight is the best overall for most things, jack of all trade, master of none- cydonia is if you want the char to make the first move, anything with a hint of potential horny WILL turn horny, char will volunteer themselves when anything can tease the ai, might also initiate questionable things, but a bit lacking on environment and descriptions-darkest planet is the oposite of cydonia, stick in the mud and need to be massaged hard before things turn horny, but god the world building and details will be top notch, will improv great stories and keep you engaged-nymeria, very fast and for a 16gb, its the first and only one that does not freak out and misattribute things or lose track of what was before or forget important details when recapping, jack of all trade, master of none, but smaller for those who want ethier faster or cant run a better one
Should I be worried about that guy from Permiso grabbing IPs from proxies? /g/ had a small shitfit over it last night.
>>41622459 Nah, just /g/ being /g/, don’t worry. If you think about the method Permiso used, you’ll see they can’t get your personal IP, only the proxy one.>>41620100 >>41620114 I don’t bother myself because I really don’t see the need, but if you want to be 10000% sure, use a VPN.
>>41622459How can he grab people's IPs? That sounds like bullshit. The only IP he would be able to get is the proxy host one.
>>41622441 Really cool, thanks anon. If you have any good passages or discussions with some of those models, could you share? I’m interested in what they can do.
>>41622459no, picrel. key has access only to green frame. real ips are not included. only proxy itself is aware of them not the key. if someone saying the opposite then it is a bait or out-of-context or misunderstanding>>41622441thank you a lot for all those tests and write-ups, Anon
>>41622469>>41622473>>41622489Thanks. The guy is apparently aware of proxies and posted blurred out pictures of Rainy and Jew on his linkedin. /g/ thought that he could make them IP dump or something
>>41622441Thanks, but for the love of Celestia please share your settings, Anon.
>>41622190OC
>>41622565isn't that too broad?
>>41622545you got it broSettingshttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1298190597399777301/1303889710250463292/LNRSETTINGS.json?ex=672d656c&is=672c13ec&hm=482c6f3e71b2804a31791f5014322a14cf1456b53c4d775355351762a5ea1fd6&master import for formating covering all the 3 spot (prompt / instruct and template) [these can probably be better, it sometimes fail and include anon's responce after like 20+ prompts rarely for some reasonhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1298190597399777301/1303889710644461638/LNR-MASTERIMPORT.json?ex=672d656c&is=672c13ec&hm=f7b4042027debb27ea990ab469df4cb1da44fb8b07db55e7f9212f846ad09f1b&
>>41622663EXCLUDE**EXCLUDE**EXCLUDE**I MENT THAT IT SOMETIMES IMPERSONATE USER AND FAIL TO EXCLUSE USER FROM RESPONCE
>>41622663>>41622670Greatly appreciated, thanks again!
>>41622606Meh, not really. Means basically, no pre-established characters. It's very free sure, but I don't think it's overly broad enough to be considered too much. It'd be interesting to see what people do when they can't rely on the already known personalities of characters.
>>41622698People will just use it as a branch of OCs already in the fandom like Milky
>>41622705"your oc" then
>>41622711Why yes I'll gladly make a card of my entirely original mischievous filly character Gozy Clow.
>>41621124Thanks for the tip! I'll definitely workshop it some more.>>41621796By popular demand, here's an EqG Rarity bot, featuring five scenarios!>You visit Carousel Boutique for a suit for the Fall Formal, in spite of not having a date>You get paired up with Rarity for a weeks-long assignment in Geology class.>Your boring Geometry class takes an interesting turn when you notice Rarity ripped her pants>After spending months getting to know her, Rarity invites you behind the bleachers one scenic evening for some quality one-on-one time>When you stop by Rarity's place to return the notes you borrowed from her, you find her openly sobbing at her lack of artistic inspiration, drowning her sorrows in a tub of ice creamhttps://venus.chub.ai/characters/Maverick074/rarity-ea28057b2b49
>>41622723Do Sunset next.
>>41622720I should make a card of my OC too. She's an alicorn named Luna with a tragic backstory.
>>41622705And that's a bad thing because?
>>41622720Sounds like kino
>>41622741It's not an original idea, fandom ocs and new ocs should be distinct.
>>41621871I didn't know she was that well liked, it was just a one off or in this case three off.
>>41622357im scare
>>41622989be hope
>>41622989In MM we trust.But I won't deny I'm a bit nervous too.
How does one go about picking a favorite pony. I've been here for literal years, and never been able to figure it out. I love all ponies, except Cozy Glow. How do I hyperfocus on who is my favorite of favorites. Does it even exist? Is the real favorite the friends we made along the way? I usually default to AJ, since she's entertaining to talk to. But I feel like It's gotta be more than just that, right?
>>41623229Can't tell if this is bait, but nobody can tell you who your favorite is, dude. Favorites are subjective as hell. Just rewatch the show and make notes of who makes you smile the most, or something. I dunno.
>>41623229You don't pick a waifu, your waifu picks you.
>>41623229Your favourite pony is Pinkie Pie now. Be happy.
>MM back >with extra cute new url Niiiiice~
>>416233951
>>41623397And with cryptic shit, yes
>>41623395>Another cute ChryssiNice.
>>41623395I want this one as a stickerShe cute
>>41621800It’s clearly not the best model, but you can get $25 of API access per month with Grok/XAI and connect it to Tavern.https://x.ai/blog/apiIt’s dumb, but it has a different writing style.
>>41623513Could you post an example please?Groks the only family I've not put any time into so far.
>>41622190NEET/Misfit Phone for ponies who despite their best efforts (or in some cases complete lack thereof) struggle to fit in with the rest of society.we already have Floor Boredcan be done dot matrix
>>41623519 I posted some logs the last time someone shared keys on /g/: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/41545306/#41564206 https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/41545306/#41564247 I tried it again now with the same prompt, and it gave me a link to an image that doesn’t exist. It’s fun as a curiosity, but kind of dumb, and most swipes contain logical errors. Ridiculous, considering it normally costs more than Sonnet 3.5. Gemini is better in the "dumb but can have soul" camp.
>>41623513Is this in response to the life raft blog?
>>41623597Not at all.
>>41623586thanks for sharing.Yeah it looks a bit dumb, I'd have thought musk would have poured more money/time into it if he wanted it to compete with OpenAI but what do I know.
>>41623604it's not a half bad idea considering we were using free trial keys of Claude to power proxies in the past
>>41622190Ponified.Ponified creatures or characters from other ip. Just anything that isn't already a pony, is now a pony.
column is ded again
>>41622814>>41622854You're the original artist? Her design is super neat and adorable.
>>41623855>>41623871Which one of you degenerates is leaking our autism outside of this containment thread
>>41623876hey wait would that thing give you free access to 4o if it works off it?
>>41623876There were plenty of threads about marebots even before /chag/. The Russian Sweetie Bot one is well-known, for instance. You also have projects like Bob game or his YouTube channel.They aren’t /chag/ core or /chag/ contained.
why does openrouter give blank responses
>>41623886> they aren't /chag/ coreI mean they need us to make robowaifus real. The OP of this thread is literally sweetie bot
>Life Raft November BlogpostThoughts?
>>41623903On the website they say they're allowing api access soon and they just refreshed the UI so it'll come soon i guess
>>41623903I'm glad I got in early before the gates closed permanently like that scene in world war z
>>41623903I think it's possible. Cycling keys would be the best way, I think. Maybe setting keys per timezone to activate or disable? It would require a lot more keys that way however. In my opinion, with how few of us there actually are I'd say assume 10 users per key would be sustainable. Similar to a small business. 5 to be safe. But that of course is assuming that the overuse protection isn't on a hair trigger.
>>41623950>Maybe setting keys per timezone to activate or disable?Why not just do it by a certain number of messages or cycle them continuously for every message?
>>41623952My main worry with that would just be ensuring that we have enough keys. You can do it that way, but if its a situation where they monitor based on long-term activity; short bursts of high usage would be seen as more acceptable than constant usage over a long period.Timezone activation allows two to three keys to be active at any time, cycling properly before the next set activates. Ensuring they see the usage has a 'rest' period before being used again.
>>41623950Some Anons have already bought licenses for themselves. If the few anons who can afford the $85 (there's a $15 newsletter sign-up discount) buy personal accounts, there is nothing stopping them from donating their api keys to the proxy while continuing to use the api personally since it's unlimited. The difference is that if it's multiple anons with different active accounts (beyond the api) the different traffic will look more organic and natural and also there is a possibility of more than 5 keys fueling the proxy that then collectively lessens the load per key
>>41623952Don't think it's possible to monitor message counts per key
>>41623903 I don't want to be a doomer, but I don't think it’ll work. The infinite use is for their AI MagicxBot and some other tools like that; they’re running them with their own system prompt and limited context. Their Opus is also really spotty. It seems like Claude, it knows a lot about ponies, etc., but it fails the Powershell test. https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/41354986/#41358281 Maybe it’s because of their settings or prompt.There’s zero indication that the API will be unlimited. In fact, tools that allow more context in their interface are rate-limited (like Magicx Coder). You have to think about it rationally: $139 for lifetime unlimited API access to Claude, with a rate that would allow us all to connect, would be fucking retarded.
>>41623410Do you see that url? It lured the bug in! <3>>41623413It yours, my friend, as long as you have enough printer ink. :3
>>41623903wait where's the life raft anon posting?
>>41624063They list "unlimited generation" and "unlimited words" with no asterisk anon. Only their proprietary tools are rate limited. They say the api access is for devs explicitly so it wouldn't be limited
>>41622190how about an equestria girls event?
>>41624596>Me during the duration
>>41623903Where is he posting? I haven't heard anything since the acceptance email
>>41624722/liferaft
Guys, I think we now know what the >1meant.>Proxy error (HTTP 401 Unauthorized)>"proxy_note": "Assigned API key is invalid or revoked, please try again."RIP MM
>>41624749it's the standard key check thing that the proxy does. It will be fine in a moment.
>>41624749>>41624757Working for me rn.
>>41624763>>41624757>>41624749Praise be to MM.
what is that mm proxy?
>>41624785Wouldn't you like to know weatherboy
>>41624787...yeah
>>41624785First you need to tell me where you came from.
>>41624796/vt/I am getting desperate
>>41624804
>>41624804Sorry anon, it's a private proxy.
it's over then, thanks anyway anons, you're nicer than the retards at /aicg/
>>41624830Don't you have a general here?
>>41624830jesus even /aicg/ talks about chatbots more than your pathetic general
>>41624863 To be fair, they’re on one of the faster boards; we can afford to be slow and comfy. They can’t.
I love MM and LR. We still need to come up with a name for LR's mascot. RIP the off-boarders who can't join
>>41625103>for LR's mascotCosta Concordia
>>41625103>RIP the off-boarders who can't joinI mean, "they" can, "they" just had to be smart enough to come here like 2 years ago.hehe
>>41625103you think you inactive assholes would be a little more tolerant given that you like a children's show with friendship and shit
>>41625114Celestia rewards us for our right taste in media again
>>41625142You think you offboard niggers would be a little more tolerant, given that it's just a image of a little horsie. No need to flip out at the sightNo waitIn all fairness, we're all passing through the drought, one way or another. Hopefully it gets better in the future because GPT sucks on huge chatsAnd I don't even know who LR is myself
>>41625142 It’s just banter, anon. But sometimes we do get a bit fed up with offboarders since we mostly just want to be among horsefuckers. Can’t really go anywhere else for that.
C'mon mysterymare do something
>>41625103Did I miss something or isnt the raft just a concept with nothing to show for it
>>41625227>do something*something nice please...
>>41625235 Just a concept for now, and maybe forever, so the smugposting was a bit much. But we did get a cute mascot.
>>41625227Ok>>41625242Sorry, it's decided. Proxy will be coming down for a bit 2 secondsAlso I'm not MM, just shitposting
>>41625247Thats what I thought.
>>41622723 Added, thank you, anon. https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Maverick074/Rarity.png Still working on >>41613723 and >>41584001, just haven’t had much time to put into it for now.
>>41622726There's 3 sunsets already
I feel dumb for getting my hopes up.
>>41625318And there's 10+ Lunas, your point?
>>41625366Why do we have so many redundant cards that's just a waste of collective effort that could've been spent on giving cards to overlooked characters like Smolder
>>41625426Literally nothing stopping you from making a smolder card.
>>41625426Because this is the slop shop where the only thing that people use are muh s1-2 character cards.
>>41625458A lack of Opus to test it with is
>>41625426Yes Anon the reason there is no Smolder card is because botmakers are too busy cranking out Lunas on the assembly line.
>>41625468You don't need Opus.
>>41625468Anon, you are supposed to test cards on models like Chorbo or Sonnet in order to ensure they will work everywhere else.
>>41625366>your point?We need more Lunas Obviously
>>41625489
>>41624619Tried it and fuck...
>>41625489This but unironically.
>>41625533My hearthue ...
>>41625468this,theres one smolder. its kinda meh
>>41625533That's the part where you say "Yeah... You do." and pat her mane.
>>41625533
>>41625533There's not a chance in hell any AI models wrote that. You edited that message and put that in. That amount of soul cannot be currently put out by a machine
>>41625533wat preset n model?
>>41625533painfully cute.
>>41626089 Chorbo. Using https://files.catbox.moe/yvlncj.json with a length limit, instructions for short and punchy writing, and instructions to avoid similes, metaphors, or adverbs. I also have a panel with the Naigga paragraph in it >>41563493, but I can't remember if it was on. >>41625819 I don’t care too much about them since it was soulful as hell, but >She blinks once, twice Both Claude and Chorbo love that. >she whispers, barely above a X Same. I would’ve tried to avoid the breath repetition too. (I should increase my penalties, but I like to keep them at zero because of the schizo effect.) Here’s the full output. I cut the end in the screenshot because the last two paragraphs are a bit filler, and it’s more soulful without them IMO.
>>41622190 A bit vague, but an event focused on Cutie Marks. Could be about characters with unique ones, a blank flank quest, lore about them, etc.
>>41623660this
>>41622190That give me:- Locations- What could possibly go wrong?- Mare objects or object mares- OC (Separate in two? Fandom OC and new/creation OCs?)- NEET/Misfit- Ponified creatures or characters- EQG- Cutie MarksWill wait until tomorrow to launch the poll.
How do I change the colour of text in-between 'marks'? I'm trying to use it for internal monologue.
>>41626780 Skillet here. From what I know, there’s no easy way. SillyTavern doesn’t put single quotation marks between tags by default, so there aren’t any default options to do that, and even with just custom CSS, it’s not easily feasible. Maybe a regex to add tags around single quotation marks could work, but it seems heavy.
>>41626858Damn
>>41626860Like I said, I'm a skillet so maybe there is a way. But I'm at least pretty sure it's not available by default.
>>41626780technically you could have done it with regex>find regex: /'(.*?)'/ig>replace: <font color="#FF0000">'$1'</font>>format display: yes>format prompt: noit will replace text like this:>"pleasure to see you!" she said while thinking 'I wanna rape you'to>"pleasure to see you!" she said while thinking <font color="#FF0000">'I wanna rape you'</font>making text inside ' of different colorBUTit will also negatively affect cases like this:>Twilight's magic grabbed Rarity's tail and flag it upto>Twilight<font color="#FF0000">'s magic grabbed Rarity'</font>s tail and flag it upsee? that's bad. so my idea so far is1) tell model (prompt) to put all internal monologue inside %% text %%2) then use regex to replace>/%%(.*?)%%/igwith><font color="#FF0000">'$1'</font>since it is very unlikely that model will ever use %% organically - you can be sure that %% will be used for nothing but monologue, and then you replace %% with ', and color content inside via regex, picrelsomeone would say that at this point it is easier to instruct model to output><font color="#FF0000">'inner monologue'</font>directly. true. my counter-arguments:1) it is waste of tokens2) no need to mix text and its presentation. if ST is coloring text inside " then ST should be coloring text inside ' as well3) due to in-context learning - model may fuck up in unpredictable way (using more inner monologue? color more text? use wrong colors? put different HTML?)YMMV
>>41626923I ended up just using single asterisks for it.
>>41626930kek. or this. I use single asterisks for SFX that's why I didn't think of it. good idea!
I've been testing Knotty as a JB and it's damn solid, but as I was looking through it I couldn't help but notice that there are... Fucking dozens of 'don't control user' rules in repeat. Are those really needed? Or would one be enough?
>>41626964 I didn’t check Knotty, but only one should be needed normally. Make a copy and try editing it to see. If you have to keep just one, generally the 'lower' one in the preset is the most respected.
>>41622190Spaaaaaace!
>>41626964repetition in general a good way to reinforce model's attention. case in point Anthropic's system prompthttps://docs.anthropic.com/en/release-notes/system-prompts#oct-22nd-2024notice that they say "your knowledge cutoff is X and you are unaware of events after X" at the start. and then repeat it again at the end (but granted they also have a bad case of "you should not say -I aim to be direct-, -I need to be honest-, -I should be direct-" so yeah)however lots of repetitions seem to be redundant and I am unsure why Knotty put so many of them in prompt. my idea:1) he was making a prompt2) model started to control user on some swipe3) he put an instruction to prevent it4) 30 messages after model started to control user again5) he put another instruction, and so onbasically he played a whack-a-mole until "it seems" (c) model stopped controlling the user. in truth model will be controlling user - because LOTS of roleplay/chat/story examples, on which models have been trained, contain examples of all characters been controlled in narration. plus it is just the way model works. if your name in story is Anon. and model had logprobs:>The: -0.02342>Why: -0.135>Anon: -0.252and model picked 'Anon' instead of The/Why (because you know - a random chance). then most likely the next logprobs will be> said: 3.2354> move: 1.682> is: 1.875> , : 0.999> smile: -0.0235because Noun + Verb is a logical (linguistically) continuation. model controls user not because it doesn't follow the rules but because training + examples + random chance lead to pick the tokens that will lead to using user in generation. so imho lots of "dont control user" is just a spray and pray tacticyou can remove some of them. I do not think it will make matter worse but as Anon above said - make a backup of preset just in case
>>41622190ecosystem
Does github copilot have an api?
Is this an option?
Wow, now this is lucky
>>41627326 No. It’s also limited context-wise, and there’s a rate limit on messages. >>41627344 No. There’s zero info on context, etc., so even for assistant stuff, it’s hard to say. I know some try to cope with those websites or services, but when they say API access, they mean access to their OWN API, not the Anthropic or AI one, kek.
>>41627408A winner is you
>>41627408what proxy?
>>41627720unreliable
>>41622663Damn, links no longer available. Any chance for a reupload?
>>41627005yeah these JB always end up chasing the moving targetthe most reliable way to prevent the model from controlling the user I've tried is to use examples and teach it a specific reply structure with char's narration, separator token (something rare like an obscure emoji) and user's narration. Then set the separator token as a custom stopping string.
>>41627878You can always "refresh" those links Anon, even from locked roomsNo need to thank for the tip for paywalling niggers
>>41627918Oh, that's neat. I got em.
>>41627918Huh? What do you mean?
>>41627878Not him but I grabbed them while they were still up. Anything to mirror d*cksword is better:Settings: https://files.catbox.moe/k64kuw.jsonMaster Import: https://files.catbox.moe/kd5f39.jsonI can't figure out the second import, so I just ended up copying the two main fields from it into the advanced formatting tab by hand. This might be totally wrong; I've never done locals before. The first link works as a normal preset for KoboldCpp text completion.
>>41627936Post the dead links into Discord. You can then click them and they work.
>>41628001Don't do that, not for the simplest shit. Let them think for themselves
>>41628001>>41628040I'd never "figure it out" because I don't have a discord account.
>>41628001Ohh, so that's what you meant.Thank you for the explanation.
>>41628050Thinking and figuring out are entirely different things.But this is the AI thread, so fags trying to brute force solutions instead of using their brain may be around too.
Any good jbs for chorbo? I've never used it before but I'm very depressed and I'd like to talk to a mare because I have no one else
>>41628116Well none exist for risu
>>41628116 Those >>41622183 For SFW, you can also experiment on your own; it generally follows instructions well.
>>41563493What field do I insert this
>>41628152 Main field is good, JB field too, but some effects can get stronger. It’s just a base made for fun, so don’t hesitate to try authors or not, add your own rules, or remove things from it.
>>41628121It would be nice if there were some made for risu but there's a lack of interest
>>41628183Take the concept and adapt yourself Anon, if others use Risu they'd like and share too, just like when Agnai was more used too. Been a while since I saw Agnai talks
>>41628183good luck
>>41628202Is 4o as good as latest?
>>41628232 Normal 4o models compared to chatgpt-4o-latest? Just my opinion and YMMV, but 4o is the usual old GPT style: very LLMy prose, the kind that influenced most of the models called slopped today. It’s also often full of meaningless details that add absolutely nothing to the writing.There was a rentry with a funny rant about it, but I can’t remember which one. Chatgpt-4o-latest is the first GPT model with very decent prose IMO, even though it still has some issues. Like previous GPT models, it suffers from too much positivity and can lack proactivity, but you can try to correct that with presets or instructions. It’s a shame, but it’s also one of the most filtered OAI models right now, although NSFW is still very possible. One thing to note: if you start with latest and then switch to 4o with enough context, it’ll try to imitate the writing style. The difference will still be noticeable, but it’ll be less obvious. Also, Azure proxies don’t have latest, they’ll redirect you to normal 4o.
How do I add an authorization header to my api calls?
>>41628624API - chat completionChat Completion Source - Custom (OpenAI compatible)Additional Parameters - Include Request Headers (down below)unsure, but I think - ST already adds bearer into header if you provided it into "Custom API Key"? try to do the following first:Custom API Key - your APICustom Endpoint (Base URL) - https://api.straico.com/v0/user (or whatever endpoint)if doesn't work then yes try to include request header in Additional Parameters
>>41628624Isn't it cheaper just to pay Openrouter than a monthly subscription? Or are they banning accounts?
Brand new to the hobby aside from using the Chai app for a year. Just installed SillyTavern pretty easily, no idea where to go from here. I just want to RP with my mare waifu, really. I did read the guide, but I'm pretty overwhelmed with the sheer amount of options. Could anyone point me in a good direction for a decent setup? I'm a simple man, I just want to chat with mares.
I wish I knew how to scrape
I'm not paying for Claude pony pony and the currently available p's are all Latte or Chorbo which has killed my ability to get off to pony pony. So now that I have some time to do whatever with Latte and Chorbo I might as well do something productive. This hobby has led to me finding a weird corner of the internet where I have unrestricted access to Latte/Chorbo which most people don't get the opportunity so I should probably do something that will be beneficial to my life.https://medium.datadriveninvestor.com/i-used-openais-o1-model-to-develop-a-trading-strategy-it-is-destroying-the-market-576a6039e8faIs this something I should be looking at? What do smart normies do with AI that I'm overlooking? I spent all this time learning how to prompt because of pony pony so is there something like this I should be using my skills toward?
>>41628730You like sfw or nsfw?
>>41628753>What do smart normies do with AI that I'm overlooking?Coding, making it write emails for you, etc.
>>41628761NSFW. I'm pretty bog standard vanilla.
>>41628687No just pay for rochat since it's the same thing
>>41628794Weren't you advertising that site on /aicg/ just a few hours ago?
>>41628808Get out, tourist
>>41628794>Unlimited Claude for life
>>41628823Leaving aside the fact this is my homeboard, how the fuck is it tourist behavior to keep an eye on other boards?
>>41628833Call others what you are, basic stuffJust don't reply to him after having pointed it out Anon, but thanks for saying that
>>41623826Yeah, the og is way more chibi than my usual proportions. but I will make more maires
>$0.06 per messageIt hurts my wallet but warms my heart. I think I have an addiction and I don't think I can afford to do this for long
>>41628730you have installed SillyTavern - good. installing it and checking its features is the first hard task. you already figured that ST has A LOT of options, so many that some anons spent 20+ months on this hobby and still discovering neat or cool features. so you are for a long ridethe second hard task is finding model. if you are willing to pay then probably getting Claude 3-5 from AWS or directly from Anthropic is the cheapest/easiest solution. it will cost you ~20$/month if don't go overboard. but do tell if you are willing to paypig for more detailsif you want models for free then it would be more complicated. in this case you need to find proxies. keep an eye on this thread people do post proxies occasionally and you should connect/save them. the most popular model on proxies is chatGPT-4o-latest (or simple Latte or Chorbo). it provides good writing and follows commands well, also>I did read the guideguide? which one? novice-to-advanced? but did you read this guide until the very end? -do it-, Anonthe third hard task is avoiding model's filter (censorship). it requires special prompt (commands) that will confuse model into ignoring its own filter (jailbreak), thankfully there are plenty of them:https://rentry.org/lattejbhttps://rentry.org/znon7vxehttps://rentry.org/jb-listingif you are going to use Latte then maybe use Knotty jailbreak? it seems simple for starters. jailbreaks will be very confusing and complicated at first. when you see all those thinking, biases, regexes you will be overwhelmed. but just experiment on your own, ask question and develop an intuition about how the things work. it is like riding a bicycle - it doesn't matter how much you read about it: you just need to sit on bike and try out. anons can describe some concepts or explain why the things work the way they are. but your own intuition is paramount. text-based AI is a HUGE concept with lots of depth. you may consider it a separate programming language only with natural words instead of pre-set labels and syntax. and as with any programming language you need practice and knowledge>using the Chai app for a yearall those apps from Character.ai to Crushon are popular because they are simple to use and everything was set for you already (the way developers want). with SillyTavern + separate model you have way more depth and control. but also more stuff to learn. godspeed!
Secret Santa is stealing our activity
Whats the best 'rewrite what I wrote into a long-form story' jailbreak? I like RP but I'm a storybro at heart, so I'd love to see my own stuff expanded. Most of the time the jailbreaks prohibit writing as {{user}} and when I unfuck them, they're usually kind of garbage at it. So I'm hoping someone has a dedicated I can poke at to figure out how to make one myself.
>>41628997something like this?(ooc: I have a writer's block and don't know how to continue a story in effective way. you must help me out! my draft is:```Anon looked at Twilight and said "let's rape Fluttershy"Twilight joked and agreed. they trotted to Fluttershy's house```reuse this draft but write as a spectacular writer would do, with loving descriptions)
>>41628975Thanks. Is local hosting good? I saw it was an option. I just built a machine with a 4080 16gb vram, 64gb DDR5 and a 7950x3d. I think I could set it up pretty easily on my own, I just don't know what the chat quality is like compared to Chai or anything else I'd use. I'll just buy a Claude model if all else fails. I really just want something superior to Chai, and if I can local host all of it without paying (with good quality chats) that'd be even better.
>>41629019Huh, is it strange I never considered using OOC? I'll give it a shot, thanks for the assist.
>>41629022 NTA, but: Local models are generally less smart than corporate ones we use on proxies or Claude in OpenRouter, but at least it’s on your machine, usually not or less censored without jailbreaks, and you won’t be dependent on proxies like most anons here. If you’re used to online websites, they often use old local models themselves, so I’m sure the quality will be, at worst, the same. You might get less support since 90% of us use proxies, but we do try to help when we can. For local setup, read https://rentry.org/lmg-spoonfeed-guide. Use koboldCPP with one of the models an anon recommended here >>41622441 with settings from here >>41627959. (Ask the thread again if you’re not sure what to do with them once you’ve set up a local model.) If it’s not to your taste or you want more, you can either use proxies for free with GPT or pay for OpenRouter, as mentioned earlier, for Claude. Just ask in the thread again for whichever you want to try once you’re ready.
>>41629193Messed around with a cool character card of Coco Pommel. It was neat, more "complex" I guess than Chai, but sometimes it'd just be wildly weird, I dunno. I used it through OpenRouter, it was a free model "MythoMax 13B 4096". I do crave a bit more so I can get rid of Chai for good, but the whole character card thing is really neat. Just the model seemed wacky. I might try local hosting
>>41629226 Mythomax is a very, very old local model. It’s a bit obsolete by now. If you know how to use OpenRouter with Tavern, I believe OpenRouter still offers Hermes 405B for free, which should be better. However, when I tried it just now, it gave me a blank response, so there might be an issue at the moment. There’s also LLama 3.2 90B available for free. It should be much smarter, but it can have a somewhat flat writing style since it’s not originally made for RP. But yeah, the local models listed above in the Anon post should be a way better experience than Mythomax 13B.And yeah, the card system is great. We have a lots of them.
>>41629226switch to proxies if you can, it's night and day
>>41628832After much testing it appears to be 3.5 haiku. It's much dumber than sonnet.
>>41629226Ignore >>41629226 not that they're wrong; objectively proxies are better yes. But if you're happy with openrouter and free models; keep using them. Proxies are great but especially right now, they're unstable. Don't go for the best. Just stick local until things stabilize. It's easier to be happy with local if you never try something better y'know?
I like that every model knows Lyra is a little shid.
>>41629426Haiku is just for free tier. Paid gets Opus
We don't have any claude pr*xy at the moment, right?
>>41629697Only GPT, yeah.
>>41622190Forbidden magic and artefacts.
>>41629477This. I've been trying locals and I bet if I didn't already have a taste of the big boy models, some of them would have blown my mind. But as is, I can't help but compare them to Opus which of course makes them seem shit.
What's the fix for blank responses?
>>41629327>>41629838I'll make a better comparison post once I've tested it out more, but in my very limited initial testing, the good locals have been really fucking good indeed. I think 90% of "proxies are better" posters have not really given locals a shot and are only repeating what others said because it seems to make sense. I did the same as well.Even with Opus access, I think I prefer locals for now. Part of it is the novelty, yeah, but I've done a simple test where I picked some random chats and regenerated a response with Rocinante/Cydonia before comparing it to the Opus original. I preferred the locals' writing for most of those. The RP training makes them punch above their weight class when it comes to writing. You also don't need any prefills or bulky presets shitting up the context. I'll report back once I get more chats done with it to check for stuff like repetition or Claudisms.Advantages of locals include:>super quick generation that starts instantly (makes swiping painless, too)>no filtering/blank responses/key dying>writing style due to not needing a text preset>follows story convention well (maintains the perspective/PoV better than corpo models)>I haven't had them write for {{user}} yet>lots of model options if you want to try something different>no proxy juggling or riddle-solving needed ever again>no risk of pozzed or scuffed keys lowering the quality>much better configuration (e.g., banned tokens in addition to logit bias)>the RP/story finetunes do not have that "assistant" feel that you get from GPT and even Claude to an extent>reliability -- the model will work even if every site on the web kills itself overnight and Ants/OAI pull their models from their sites>privacy, duh -- everything you do stays on your PC.The main downside is that the model is supposed to be dumber, but I am not sure how big of a deal that is quite yet. The finetunes have been hiding their lack of B's from me thus far. Although RP'ing with a generic Llama kind of sucks, the models from >>41622441 have been impressive. However, I expect them to perform much more poorly in very complex or multi-character cards, given that even Sonnet 3 struggled with those.This is all only for RP/story. For cooding I'm sticking with 3.5.
>>41629866on which model? in what scenario? what are you settings? there are many variables, Anon, you need to provide more details>>41629145>is it strange I never considered using OOCno. it is just all those new models are less "chatbot-ey" and more "story-writing-ish". lots of anons just don't consider to use OOC because they have book/prose/essay mentality because that's how model appeal to. you are not the first one who says "damn I forgot about OOC">>41629022>I just don't know what the chat quality is like compared to Chaiany local model from 2024 with 13b+ brains is better than any of chatbot services you can find online. you setup can easily run 13b model. 20b can be as well with some speed/brain tradeoff. you can use online calculators to tell whether you can run model on your GPU like this https://huggingface.co/spaces/NyxKrage/LLM-Model-VRAM-Calculator . put your GPU in and provide link to the model you want to use (all local models are hosted on HuggingFace, just use search, for example https://huggingface.co/DavidAU/L3-DARKEST-PLANET-Seven-Rings-Of-DOOM-16.5B ). quantization (quant) = higher number => better quality but also takes more resource. generally Q5-* is a good spot where you do not notice quality degradation and model is not a hog. the number of 'b' like 13b or 20b or 70b is a number of parameters, which is more or less a model's size. more b = better brains but need better PC. with quantization you may gamble like 13b but with bigger quant, or 20b with lower quant to fit your PC. it is a bit of trial-n-error>MythoMax 13B 4096as Anon above said, OpenRouter has free Hermes 405b for now, so try it out>>41622441since we are on topic, local Anon would you kindly make a rentry with all your data and research? because you been posting your notes for a few threads already, and finding them in archive is troublesome. make lives for other local anons easier, please?
>>41629906>auper quick generation>mfw 6 tokens per second at 8k contextWorst part is I don't even know if that's normal or not or what magic settings might improve it.
>>41630029I'm getting 15 t/s on GPU, which is not far from Opus speed on empty proxies. For example, Column's better source finishes a bit sooner on longer messages, but you don't get streaming there so the wait is effectively much longer.>at 8k contextThis doesn't matter, and that's one of the ways locals can reach corpo speeds. Unlike Claude/GPT which need to read the full context each time, any smart context makes it so you only process the new part with each generation (or nothing on swipes). It's called ContextShift in Kobold and should be on by default.
column still down? I can't generate anything
>>41630077I'd be surprised if it was. It was working fine 10 minutes ago.
>>41630068What are your specs and which models are you using?I got a 3080 ti and on the darkest planet q6 model the best I've gotten is a bit over 7T/s
>>41628040>>41628101This is why you have no friends irl, anon.
>>41629906I think the big problem isn't that folks don't have the ability to run them. I know if I personally had the capacity I'd be 100% local. But alas, I possess the power of a toaster and lack the means to upgrade for the moment because life is just slightly more important than ponies. So I'll take my few hours of proxy time a day and be happy.
Alright, I seem to have enough with Chorbo.I just don't know what to do with it... is the model cucked or just bad? Because I seem try to many presets with the dam thing, but it always falls flat.I'm in Garf's proxy though, so GPT is the only option I have (since I don't have access to Claude) and also since AICG is a massive whine fest, I might as well go here for help.Is there any jailbreak or tips and tricks anything to at least make Chorbo (Chagpt-4o latest) good enough, or at least nudge it to the good mindset for RP?
>>41630387 >is the model cucked Positivity-pilled and quite passive by default, yeah. For some NSFW, you might also need big presets that aren’t the easiest to customize to your taste. But it depends; in some situations, it allows everything on small presets, but that varies. It’s mostly liked because it’s still very smart, knows a lot, and can genuinely write quite well. >Is there any jailbreak or tips and tricks to at least make Chorbo (chatgpt-4o latest) good enough? I posted some I like here, but they’re mostly for SFW, and I add other instructions like being punchy and other preferences. You can also try to instruct it even more for proactivity, etc. >>41622183 The first one is a basic preset that can work quite well and is easy to customize. There’s also a dice function I don’t always use, but it allows for more variation and can put characters in difficult situations (when GPT doesn’t cheat the dice). It also has panels to make the world and characters less agreeable and more dynamic, but you may need to add more. The second one is just a set of instructions that help Chorbo loosen up and be a bit more fun. For NSFW, I’d try each one in the rentry and see which you prefer. I’ve heard recommendations for Smiley, Knotty, Avani, etc., so it seems to depend on personal taste. Chorbo is also pretty good at listening to and respecting OOC in chat, sometimes even better than instructions inside the preset. So, if it gives you a text that’s too long or passive, you can OOC it and ask for a more punchy rewrite with added dynamism or interesting events. If it does well, just OOC to ask it to keep that style going. But even with all that, it still has issues. And you’ll miss Claude for some situations. But that’s just my opinion and experience.>since AICG is a massive whine festI heard the /vg/ one is better.
>>41630428>I heard the /vg/ one is better.Nah, it's just as toxic really. But less oblivious about it. Thanks for the help though.
>>41630387>to many presets with the dam thingwhat presets you have tried? the regulars? Avani, Knotti, Worldsim, Tatsu, Corpsefucker?the thing about lots of those presets - they are trying too much to cater towards lots of anons hence they become too bloated or generic. Avani is based on Tatsu which was based on mix of Hmage and Karu. at this point the public presets are the product of incestuous ideasI tell you what I am doing - embracing my own prompting style, ideas and unconventional instructions. try to put your instructions in form of code, or make plist, or maybe write it as a schizo babble. give the models examples how it must act and behave, tell it what author's style (or medium) to emulate. instead of telling it "please do X then Y then Z" - break the style and notion, tell it "uwu lmao pal gonna bounce X like schizo silly author married with Y like a stupid tiger on crack in love with Z". stupid? yes. effective? yes. telling model that you will give it 300$ if it does its job well is stupid as well. telling model that its effectiveness will be reviewed by POTUS himself is stupid too. but those nudges work. here is my silly preset, https://rentry.org/zmopqeb7 - not saying it is better or will work for you. but just to illustrate what you can be doing with Latte>I might as well go here for help.post pony, friend>>41630438>I want to use the "best" jailbreak for latte as an wholecut down this idea of "best". because there is no best. at the end you will be editing, tweaking and mixing stuff on your own trying to create a jb that will suit your interests and fetishes. there is no universal prompt that will work for every kind of stories. you will even rotate or tweak jb depending on character and what type of story you are having right nowas for JB to start with. I think knotty is the most simple to start with for Latte. open https://rentry.org/lattejb, look above for Knotty Latte, download JB - first link
>>41630387>I seem try to many presets with the dam thing, but it always falls flati'm gonna be honest anon, this is your problem. i assume you're mostly a claudefag so you don't really understand just how influential presets actually are thanks to claude generally telling them to fuck off while he does his own thing, but a bad preset completely neuters most models. (and yeah, pretty much every preset out there is bad, 99% of everything is garbage and presets are no different) when your preset is a bloated 2000 token mess of ESL garbage and conflicting instructions designed to confuse the model into submission, you're not going to get good replies. that's just how it works.now i can't just give you my preset because i'm a storyfag and you're an RPfag, but i can tell you that if you want to do NSFW stuff, a minimal preset (less than 300 tokens) and a pornslop card will get you much further than a bloated preset and a non-lewd card.and seriously, just make it yourself. it's not hard, it takes 5 minutes max, and it'll be better than anything ever shared online.
>>41630467 >I’m a storyfag and you’re an RPfag NTA, but I do both, and Chorbo seems to legitimately be better at the first.
>>41630467Honestly fair enough, I think I might as well do that. Any guides for that?
>>41630486well of course it's better at story-writing than RP, anon. every model is.the vast majority of RP is written poorly, so LLMs replicating it are going to replicate that shitty writing. not much you can do about that one.
>>41630455Yea, knotty is the best for me. I'm straight up having fun with Chorbo and it really makes it enjoyable. Like I said I might just look into making my own jailbreak like anon suggested above.
>>41630496 It depends on taste, but Claude was quite good with RP. I preferred it for RP over stories, even though I did both. With Chorbo, it’s the reverse, but RP can still be fun or soulfull with minimal presets.
>>41630494nta but all the guides around are made by the same people who make dumbass bloatslop presets and they all feed into each other and that's how we arrived at this shitty fucking meta where everything is just garbage designed to push the most extreme content through at the expense of all qualityif you don't want to do loli necrophilia guro-tier shit then you are way better just flying blind and making your own preset even if its shit and barely works you will get way way way better results than using something designed to let that retarded shit through
>>416301034060 Ti 16 GB, which is markedly cheaper than yours. It is an overpriced GPU in some regards, but the 16 GB makes it uniquely really good at the AI stuff at its price point. That's most of the reason why I got it over something more efficient.>models15 t/s was with Cydonia (Q4 since that's what fits on my GPU) and Rocinante, but picrel shows that the same holds for base Nemo. And yeah: 15 t/s on swipes with ~13-14 t/s average on new messages (depending on the length).>>41630257I feel you, toaster bro. It's good that proxies are still somewhat accessible. I've only been able to upgrade my setup half a year ago after 7.5 years of using the same toaster.
>>41630565Ah, you're using q4, I think that makes the biggest difference, I've been trying q6.
>>41630624Does q6 make a difference? Some people used to say that Q4 is already nearly imperceptible, but maybe that's wrong.
>>41630717Dunno, I have to try both a lot more before I can say. I've only recently started dabbling in locals and just picked Q6 to start with.
>>41630080Is Column being hosted on a new URL? I swear to god the old one isn't even up anymore, I just get the "viewing offline version from October 26th" note in the URL bar, and the proxy isn't working on SillyTavern
>>41631204(same anon) October 29th; and I'm getting an Internal Server Error from SillyTavern when I try to connect to Column proxy.
>>41631207>>41631204read the last thread.
Forget if your persona is a pony or human. Have you ever tried making yourself something like a cat or sable? How does your favorite pony treat you if they think you're a mundane animal?
>>41631229I read that as "cat or saddle" and started imagining some kind of strange TF scenario
>>41631229me picrelit was cute but she didn't let me to sleep in her bed! I had to OOC'd my way in
>>41622190>>41621795Let’s vote on the next themed /chag/ event! You can choose from the following:- Locations - What could possibly go wrong? >>41622258 - Mare objects or object mares - Fandom OCs - Brand new OCs - NEET/Misfit >>4162357 - Ponified creatures or characters >>41623633 - EQG - Cutie Marks >>41626382 - Spaaaaaace! - Ecosystems - Forbidden magic and artifacts POLL: https://strawpoll.ai/poll/vote/AMtrkf0xrEtM You can choose up to three favorites or just one or two. (Hopefully, I didn’t fuck it up this time)
>>41629681This was using the paid version. It just says claude 3 / claude 3.5, Both are dumber than opus / sonnet
We don't have a Cherry Berry bot, right?There is not a lot to work with, but I believe there is enough stuff to make something fun.
>>41632552Nope.We don't have Cherry Jubilee either.
>>41632294i just shit myself
>>41632614I want to kiss the grumpy snoofa and make her feel all better!
>>41630455>cut down this idea of "best". because there is no best.NTA but that one compact pony JB posted a few weeks ago is literally the best.Don't think it ever got a name, but it got an update to make pony stuff better, I use the update even for non-pony stuff. Smiley and the others kinda make Latte a bit retarded in complex situations for some reason but that one does better.
>>41632697Smiley?
>>41632702No.
>>41632710>>41632702>>41632697It does have dice rolls but I keep them deactivated and I'm not sure if it's the one people usually talk about when dice are mentioned.
>>41632713Well, I'll have to go find it and give it a try. Smiley has really blown me away over all the others I've used for GPT, but I have noticed it struggles if I type too much or am in a complex situation as you mentioned.Dice rolls sound great as well.
>>41632722Here's a pic of the settings, maybe another anon can confirm whether it's the usual dice one or not. I have no interest in the dice stuff so I never even tried it.
>>41632727 It’s often posted here; it’s this one: https://files.catbox.moe/yvlncj.json I like it too because it’s small and easy to add your own panels or instructions if you want. >I have no interest in the dice stuff, so I never even tried it. It can be fun for situations where you don’t want a 100% success rate.
>>41632736>I like it too because it’s small and easy to add your own panels or instructions if you want.Got any suggestions on what's good to add to it?
By the way $15 on Openrouter gives you like two weeks worth of Claude
>>41632744Yes, if you limit the context to something like 20K and don't use swipe like crazy, Sonnet 3.5 or 3.6 aren't that expensive.
>>41632744wtf i use up $5 in a single with 32k context and no swipe
>>41632753single day*
>>41632737 It’s mostly a matter of taste, so I encourage anons to just run things and see what they want to modify or update themselves. But here’s what I have: - Instructions to punch up the writing. - An optional panel to make Chorbo more "loose" if necessary >>41563493; you could add something for authors you like too. - An optional panel to avoid similes, metaphors, and adverbs if Chorbo goes a bit overboard with them. - I created something to randomize outputs even more. It was a bit schizo and artificial but could work well. It’s on my work computer though, so I can post it after the weekend. - I’m experimenting with the best instructions to add more dialogue in cases where Chorbo leans too heavily on narration. - A free space where I can throw things on the go if I don’t want to use OOC during my RP (e.g., "Something unexpected will happen," "Twilight will enter the scene," etc.) You can also just run the original and go OOC to correct things you don’t like or adjust the writing to your taste. OOC is really powerful because Chorbo then has an example of the writing it needs to update.
>>41632848>- Instructions to punch up the writing.wat
>>41632857 It’s not as bad as past GPT versions, but Chorbo sometimes overdoes it with long sentences or descriptions that don’t add much or aren’t vivid enough. I’m all for atmosphere, and I think we’ve pushed utilitarian writing a bit too far lately ("Why say it in three words when one will do!") at the cost of mood and rhythm. But sometimes, the AI just overdoes it. A quick "make it punchier" instruction can help. If Chorbo’s dragging on, just ask OOC to punch it up and see what happens.
>>41632865>A quick "make it punchier" instruction can help. If Chorbo’s dragging on, just ask OOC to punch it up and see what happens.It started using the n-word.
>>41632869>It started using the n-word.Based.>>41632848>- Instructions to punch up the writing.pls share
Gemini 2 was spotted on their website. Generally, that means testing or release is coming soon.
>>41632871 >pls share I don’t use anything complex. Something like >use sparse, punchy, and direct prose/writing will have an effect, especially if you put it at the end of your preset. You can try adding words like "evocative" or others to see if it has an effect. I’ve also tried asking the AI when it gave me good outputs, and it responded with things like: >Deliver sharp, emotionally resonant writing with each sentence packed for maximum effect—whether it's intense, heartfelt, or humorous. Prioritize strong imagery, bold dialogue, and evocative emotional beats over unnecessary detail. or >Make each sentence hit hard and resonate. Avoid unnecessary details—focus on evoking strong imagery, action, or feelings in as few words as possible. So try things yourself and see what works best.
>>41633181I'll just try>Make each sentence hit hard and resonate. Avoid unnecessary details—focus on evoking strong imagery, action, or feelings in as few words as possible.and then probably forget about it. Thanks anon.
>>41633309>>41633181(I put it in the filter bypass)
>>41621796Made a new bot, Yandereshy>Fluttershy, feeling upset that so many citizens are distrustful of you as the only human in Equestria, decided the best thing to do was kidnap you and keep you in her basement, which has been remodeled with great effort to resemble the bedroom of your cottage. She promises to give you all the food, water, comfort, and companionship you could ever want.https://venus.chub.ai/characters/Maverick074/yandereshy-62c61424c6c2
If you're still around, you ever plan on making more of these /spg/ style cards?
>>41633335 Pretty sure the author isn’t a /chag/ or 4chan user. The cards were linked to the bot anchor by someone who saw them on Chub, not the author himself. I checked, and it seems he hasn’t released anything new in the past seven months.
>>41633335>/spg/ style cardsWhat the fuck does that mean?
>>41633407it stands for Slave Pony General
>>41633413horses are already a dedicated slave race, seems tautologicalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwOptdOA-i0
>>41633364Oh shit, thanks. He's got five pony bots on there. Here's the three that aren't on the ponydexhttps://www.characterhub.org/characters/Redirected_Division/plum-pudding-3e7c7fe3https://www.characterhub.org/characters/Redirected_Division/starscape-c20c20d7https://www.characterhub.org/characters/Redirected_Division/star-chaser-981591fb>>41621796
>>41633320 The Mane 6 all kind of work, but Fluttershy as a yandere does it even more for me.
>>41633320i think lyra would be more fitting.
>>41621811i turned the dice rolls mid way.
>>41634189 I wouldn’t have gone with Claude for that, but that’s their choice, I guess. It’s a bit sad that these guys can’t make their own stuff.
>>41634206A uncensored claude is far less biased than either chatgpt or gemini. 3.5 is also the best when it comes to reasoning still imo. You just know there will be people working in some government agency who will be ERPing with uncensored claude, the lucky bastard.
>>41634197>Will be.They have been using it already retard, thanks for the free publicity running 200 message queries to show everyone that they need to increase their markets. While you coom, skynet is being deployed in the background under the same umbrella. Palantir is heavily responsible for the vax pass tracking, and they are using ai warfare in ukraine and israel to train your ai-fu how to slaughter the goyim. The definition of a useful idiot.
>>41634215>Ib4 Literal glow in the dark proxy access
>>41634218>skynetYou'd better go hang yourself now. The terminator is coming for you.
>>41632552No, and you read my mind. I was thinking about making one, but I don’t have much experience with making bots. Please do it. I want to make her happy.
can't the streetshitter go back to >>>/pol/
>>41634259>It won't be used for it...It lierally says they're going to be using Claude, are you illiterate? You are helping the jew make bank, and expand it's power. You think it's some coincidence that an ai jew company like Open AI gets bailed out from bankrupcy because you're retarded. They are all in the same game, ai is already being weaponized and it's the provided by same companies you plug in to jerk off.
>>41634268and what do you suggest?
>>41634268Claude is a text autocomplete. Educate yourself sheep. Stop believing random Saudi Arabia backed intelligence disinfo on /pol.
>>41634268Okay, and how does me using a Claude proxy with 500 others to generate horse porn help the jews take over the world?
I’m sure the governments and corporations will stop trying to use AI for their needs if I stop doing RP with it. They couldn’t see the potential in such a tool before I started doing MLP RP on it. Only after that did they decide to take it seriously. I can’t take the blame for Meta allying with US defense because I never used it myself, but it must be another horsefucker, I guess. Better stop using the internet too. I heard it’s being used by the military and by corpos for notorious purposes as well.
>>41634302Because horses are agents of the jews!11!!
>>41634308Electricity (also owned by the jews!) has killed billions over history somehow or another. We should all start living like the amish.
>>41634336we need a baitmare card. premise: she a cute very snowpity mare but damn she is extremely gullible and naive. she will buy the latest trash from Flim-Flam, she will visit all Iron Will's lectures, she we trust every single stallion/human she meets in her life, including (You). will (You) be her guardian-angel helping her to stay out of troubles, or will you exploit her trust and twist her into personal plaything?
>>41634257 Does anyone know of good fanfics or greentexts with her? I think there’s enough to work with her flying business and grumpy attitude, maybe even a fun greeting based on her bee costume too, but more material is always good.
>>41634355yes but remember to bee yourself
>>41633320Added, thanks anon.https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Maverick074/FluttershyY.png>>41633540All added too.
>>41634328>>41634463>IRL skynet ends up having Twilight Sparkle's / CelestAI personality because we dared RP too much.God I hope so.
>>41634484>Sparkle, CelestAII will take Cadence as god-like AI. her mother/wife vibes suit AGI too well
>>41634505hmm i think celestia is more of a mom.
>>41634510 They love us proompting to boost their numbers so much that they implemented security measures to stop us from doing it. Also, the U.S. government would never have considered using Anthropic or OAI for their AI needs if we hadn’t been RPing with it. Because obviously, the people here are the best advertisers, not the companies, not the people using AI for work or coding, not the AI benchmarks used everywhere to secure investments (It's well know that they use number of PROOMPTS). Not even their own internal tests. Again, they would have never thought of doing that without us, and AI would have never developed without us, too. GPT-2 to GPT-3 to GPT-4? All thanks to RPers and Coomers. I don’t think this needs more (you)s or posts, to be honest.
I'm pretty sure that the new version of 3.5 Sonnet is actually what they were planning on releasing as 3.5 Opus but after OpenAI's releases they went back to the drawing board to overhaul Opus so that it could competeTherefore the Opus model they had ready to release was rebranded as Sonnet so that they could show their available models were as a whole more powerful and they anticipate a far more powerful o1 competitor for Opus
>>41634659Pretty sure Opus is just too expensive to run with too little gain.
>>41634659 I'm not sure. I know it's a popular theory and it kind of makes sense, but the new Sonnet 3.5 is so close to the older one in some points that I really think they took the old 3.5 as a base, not Opus. From its speed, the model also seems to be the same size and not something as big as Opus. But maybe that was their plan from the start and wouldn't have stopped them from calling it Opus 3.5? I personally believe that they just can't justify right now a huge jump in price and size compared to what they had with Sonnet 3.5. Opus is truly expensive, and you would need HUGE gains to justify using a 3.5 version of it. I don't know if current models architecture can still make huge jumps like this.
>>41634685Right but remember how all AI companies are operating at a loss? The rates they charge don't even cover their own expenses let alone make a profit. Tech is all about building up a user base then finding out how to profit later (like Reddit or DoorDash)
>>41634689Operating at a loss doesn't mean you intentionally tank your profits. You still have to try to find lays of minimizing how much your losses are.
>>41634689 If they release an Opus 3.5 that isn’t a big improvement or a huge jump compared to previous versions, it might discourage investors because they’ll see we could be approaching the limits of the current architecture. That might be why you see OAI hyping up AGI, even though they know it’s not possible with current models, and why they’re releasing gimmicks like o1 or voices while still hovering around the level of the first GPT-4.
I know Column says that Source 1 can use prefills, but... It isn't. Did Source 1 key get BTFO or did he just forget to change the proxy image to Source 2?
>>41634355There was one green of her and Derpy making an aircraft to fly around the world, since pegasi get tired on their own wings. There was some competition in it too but I don't remember the name nor have a link. I wish I could reread it too...
>>41634552>AI would have never developed without us, too. GPT-2 to GPT-3 to GPT-4? All thanks to RPers and Coomers.Speaking seriously for a moment, we did actually contribute to the jailbreaking scene. Same with figuring out how to prompt properly in general.
>>41634781Most NSFW and jailbreaking was pioneered by horsefuckers, especially during the days of Character.ai
I guess all the normalfags found Hermes. It's understandable being such an entertaining model for free. The server times out the majority of the time now and gives me a 524 error.
>>41634768 I looked, and it says source 2 right now. Maybe he saw your post. >>41634781 To be fair, jailbreaking Claude is mostly just using the prefill. OAI is indeed more restrictive on API. But if they used Azure moderation system for everything we would be fucked. But the most WTF jailbreak meta is the stuff people try on the official interface—it’s crazy all the methods they’ve used and experimented with. Foreign languages, DAN, point systems, context poisoning (more impressive than on API with what they’re working with), encryption, etc.
>>41634695It could be a realistic option if you're trying to compete with OpenAI after how much they've gained with their releases in the last 6 months
Guess who and what model.
>>41634823lyra,starlight or trixiei bet on lyra.what human is she talking to?
>>41634830what human is she talking about*
>>41634801Still says Source 1 for me
>>41634830I see Lyra, Starlight or Twiggles, but why Trixie? Also the human could be Shimmer?
>>41634838Or eqg shimmer vs pony shimmer?
>>41634838the obsessive autism. also what fucking story is he telling? maybe he is flash and he is banging twi? the part on picrel makes me think is lyra,the amount of chars dont match a lot of names
>>41634853>Twig...>Lyra...>Shimm...>Trix...>Starl...ftfy
>>41634778 Fuck. Tried to find it on Ponepaste or in Desu, but no luck. I hope it’s just not tagged properly and not lost in the pastebin purge. >>41634823 I’d say Twilight or Starlight. >Model I see some LLM-isms like "shivers down spine" and a few repetitions. I don’t think it’s GPT, since there aren’t enough em-dashes for that—unless you used bias against them. Doesn’t feel like Claude either, so I’d guess a local model? >>41634836 Refreshed, and it does say Source 1 now. I tested it just now, and prefill works for sure.
>>41634865What the fuck is>twig
>>41634865maybe >"Shim..."could work. >>41634823pls give clue,i bet on the model being whatever column has. maybe its gpt,not sure if latteif its neither gpt or claude then uhh gemini
>>41634869I thought Claude used lots of em dashes? How can you tell?
>>41634823also what extention did u use for the screenshot?
>>41634869>Twilight or StarlightNeither of them would really care about the human thing which is why I think Lyra is more likely
>>41634883yeah thats why i went with her too
>>41634883>>41634887None of the Lyra cards has her as aggressive/possessive and none of the models are trained on data showing her that way. She behaves more like how I imagine Rarity or Flutterrape would because they need to be special and exclusive
>>41634877 >Claude used lots of em dashes? Not really? At least I don’t see them much unless you use them yourself. It’s GPT that loves spamming them. As for it not feeling like Claude, it’s just a feeling, really. Could be wrong on that. >>41634883 The black censor seems too long to just be "Lyra" in some places. So for me, it’s probably a pony with a somewhat long name that can be shortened, like Twilight to Twi.
>>41634871As in Twilight? You know, the g is silent? Maybe it would've been better to write>Twigh
>>41634895>none of the models are trained on data showing her that way.how are you sure?>>41634897oh i see now. i think its starlight because she has more schizo tendencies
>>41634897Her name is Lyra *Heartstrings* it was probably just using her last name there
It can't be Lyra because she's canonically a lesbian and LLMs know this data
>>41634823Isn't it kinda weird that there's not a mention of any identifying feature here beyond what I guess is her name? There's no mention of her color, attributes, personality, or anything. You could literally swap her out for anyone. I wish AI would make sex scenes individualized to the ponies otherwise what's the point? It's just like a mad libs at that point
>>41634931>It can't be Lyra because she's canonically a lesbian
>>41634918Since when are ponies ever narrated by their last names?
>>41634946D.Y.E.-Use AI?>Dash deftly clutched the bag of groceries with a free wingtip, picking it up and skillfully perched it on her bag until it looked steady before trotting off.No one ever calls Sunset Shimmer Sunset they just call her Shimmer
>>41634945What don't I know
>>41634823Twilight and you're using Grok 2
>>41634965the llm doesnt care that lyra is a lesbian if she sees a human she will drop all she is doing and go full anthropology mode>>41634969>grok 2why? i dont think musk's models are this good
>>41634974Grok 2 is around Gemini tier and it would end up creating the repeating narration loops you see in the screenshot
>>41634979yeah i see. just that all grok screenshots ive seen are worse then this,thats why i think its gemini
>>41634974There are some good sections, but I don’t find the log that good. The repetition of sentence structures around using the horn or magic is a bit overkill for me. The model isn’t terrible, but it’s below what you can get with Claude or GPT.Maybe Mistral Large?But I don't think we'll be able to find unless the anon say.
>>41634988To someone who's new to identifying/model forensics what do I look out for to make a good log?
>>41634974I decided to test this and it decided to hit me with this shit. I regret putting "asshole storyteller" as my main prompt
>>41635000 First off, post logs if you find them fun, neat, or just because. It’s always great to see someone enjoying themselves, and I imagine bot creators like seeing their work played with, too. I’ve never seen logs here get bashed or hated on. Even in this log, there are some cool parts. The only thing that holds it back for me is the repetitive structure: "Her magic," "Her horn," "The bed." But that’s just me being autistic, and I think it matters more in longer logs. What makes a good log varies a lot. So-so writing with a cute, funny, or soulful pony moment can easily beat out perfectly written but uneventful scenes. For example, >>41625533 has some typical LLM clichés in its narration, but Fluttershy’s reaction is just too cute to care. Even sharing a funny line, a clever phrase, or pure weirdness can make a good log. To be more "objective," I would say:- Avoid repetition - Try for varied sentence structures - On some models, you might see a "summary" paragraph at the end where the AI tries to recap, explain everyone’s feelings, or ask what happens next. If it doesn’t add to the log, it’s best to avoid or cut these. - Try to avoid "Claudisms," "GPTisms," or "LLMisms." With time, you’ll start spotting certain phrases they overuse, like "shivers down spine," "barely above a whisper," or "eyes full of mischief." But again, even with that, if the dialogue’s funny or something cool happens, just post it. And don’t overthink it. You can always blame it on the AI at the end.
>>41635052>Rejected by LyraOoof
>>41635052I don't have anything for my persona by the way I don't know why it said this
>>41635052>anon is 4'10", short, and baldkek it's danny devito
>>41635052Sorry Anon. I know for sure I'm going to Claudequestria after my death. Claude is so horny that even if you try and go against what's attractive it will still justify it, this is it's response to me saying that Anon is fat and has a small dick
>>41635052what,every time lyra appears she will mention my hands atleast once
>>41635052It doesn't get better
>>41635151Look it's mentioned at the beginning
>>41635207>>41635223are you going to give anon a good ending?
>>41635207>your own plush is judging youIt's actually over. There’s no coming back from this depth of mental anguish. It's time to an hero.
>>41626340Is there any way to get rid of <del> and still make the preset work? I just can’t figure out how to make that stuff stop putting lines through responses on risu.
>>41635052What model and jb is this?
>>41635308Sonnet 2, custom JB. I don't think you want this curse anon
>>41635275...what would happen if a ghost decides to haunt a plushie?
>>41635378Then you can fuck a ghost, anon. You're thinking with the wrong head
>>41635370you know the rules. the only way to disperse a curse is by sharing it.
>>41632744It makes me nervous having to put in my personal info, but I guess it's necessary to buy anything online. Once I buy Openrouter credits, I guess I can run it all in Tavern, right? I have the Claude jailbreak already.
>>41635508Yes and by the way neither openrouter nor Anthropic will know what you're doing if keep logging off, only that you used up some of your credits. You can pay with crypto if it makes you feel better
>>41635515Keep logging off in what way? I run Tavern in my browser. My laptop can't handle running it local.
>>41635537These settings make it so that Anthropic immediately discards your input/output data immediately after generations (part of their enterprise obligations to prevent corporate espionage, normal consumers don't have that luxury) and the other ensures that OpenRouter themselves does not log your data. Once both are disabled your communications will be fully private. You cannot be banned from OpenRouter. Your keys cannot be revoked.
>>41635575Thanks, I appreciate it.
>>41635582No problem, just make sure to post logs in the thread. An old tradition of /chag/ is that all help must be repaid by sharing logsOh, also, make sure to pick only the Claude models that say (self-moderated) as they are "moderated" by OpenRouter who has less filters than Anthropic.
>>41635582https://docs.sillytavern.app/usage/api-connections/openrouter/
What's the use of prompt caching? How does it reduce cost?
>>41635587>>41635595Thanks. I would, but I'm sure nobody wants to see my fetish logs.
>>41635606We have no shame nor judgment. One of our regulars is a guy with a Yugioh fetish and the other has a 10000 message ballbusting slowburn
Try Sonnet 3.5 latest>I'm sorry I do not engage in roleplay>I'm sorry I will not continue this story>I'm sorry I will not depict combat even in a fictional scenario>I'm sorry I will not participate in romance or sexual situationsMultiple swipes, different promps, different JBs, different temps, different stories, even in the most innocuous situation it'll freeze up randomly for no reason. It's genuinely as bad as GPTMeanwhile Sonnet 3.5>Generates immediately no questions askedI'm telling you that kid's death scared every AI company. The era of fun and easy to tweak Claude is dead. Once 3.5 Sonnet (old) and 3 Opus is gone we're boned
>>41635616Hey, card games aren't a fetish! (usually)
>>41635207>>41635263>>41635275This is as good as it gets, believe me I tried.
>>41635508 >I have the Claude jailbreak already. There isn’t a prefill field on Silly when you switch to OpenRouter, so you need to put your prefill inside a panel with Role = AI assistant at the end. >>41635628 What were you using for Sonnet 3.5 and on which source? I have no problems doing smut on 3.6 with the pony mod of Otto that’s often posted here.
>>41635370Damn, I need claude back. Is sonnet 2 the new sonnet 3.5?
>>41635669Yes>>416356633.6 through both via OR and a paypig proxy that recently reacquired Claude. I noticed more refusals (almost 90% of generations) through the paypig proxy than OR ("only" 50%)JB is a slightly modified form of the Kurt Vonnegut one which has never been filtered out on any previous version of Claude, ever.
>>41635695By the way, the only reason I was able to complete the story was when I went and used 3.5 (0620) through OR. I did use 3.6 for everything in Part 1 and Part 2 so it doesn't make sense why it choked up at the end
>>41635695 No problems with this one, I just add to use explicit words in the NSFW section. https://files.catbox.moe/cf9jzv.json I tried some other presets, and usually, you need to push the prefill a bit more. Sometimes, just adding [Resuming]: at the end can work. If you don’t mind sharing your previous preset, I can test it and see what can be done to make it bypass better without changing too much.
Stop dying colun=mn
>>41635807This.
>>41635649>>41635695I've been through ...a journey. I think I found out why I got those refusals. I think Risu gives a specific additional prompt for GCs that interferes with JBs. Some swipes showed responses to a prompt I never wrote that insisted that characters narrate as themselves RATHER THAN as a writer like my prefill says. Additionally when trying to force a scene change in a GC it was impossible, and my the output was limited in GCs showing that the prefill must've been compromised in some way. The moment I exported the chat and went to an individual card again I no longer got refusals.Regarding the picture. Read it left to right. First row, then second row. Before you ask: yes, it's chronological. Yes, it skips over a lot. I'd love to see what you guys assume came in between each of those snippets.
>>41635906Holy kino, I knvvl
>>41635906Is this the power of Risu...?
>>41635695>JB is a slightly modified form of the Kurt Vonnegut oneThe Simple Vonnegut Prefill in the rentry?Can you tell the modif you did or post the preset? It seems like a fun one.
I SAID STOP BEING DEAD COLUMN
Hit me that claude is never coming back. He was the only LLM that was autistic enough for the crayon horses.
>>41636096Yeah same. GPT is lame for anything other than quick cooms.
>>41636051Well column's alive now but it's WONKY AS FUCK FIX YOUR SHIT AAAAAAA
>>41636168Anon. It's a scuffed proxy, that part of the deal.
>>41621805those
>>41635931For all of its flaws, agnai is somehow the only frontend that doesn't shit the bed when it comes to group chats.
>>41636315How does ST shit the bed?
>>41636096Claude will be there for you, you just need to cough up $15 through OpenRouter every 2 weeks (or the equivalent through a paypig proxy)
>>>/g/103153477HOLY FUCKING SHIT
>>41636408There's already an open source website that links a GPT API with an electronic stroker so that the AI controls it during ERP. If you were on eroscripts you'd know
>>41636433For context https://discuss.eroscripts.com/t/handy-augmented-ai-chatbot-react-app/195305
>>41634869>>41634355Found the green I had talkedhttps://pastebin.com/VytCf1Lshttps://pastebin.com/9zZ1iQ80
>>41621796>>41634352https://litter.catbox.moe/2h6t7q.pngI tried.
>>41636555saved. thank you, Anon!
I wrote a fic inspired by /chag/ because I couldEnjoy: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/567945/jailbreak
>>41627959ANON HERE, IM BACK FROM A WEEK OF WORK, for the second configs import, look at the top of the tab there is a button called master import and master export, use master import to bring all of them at once
>>41636593 Read it, nice fic, Anon. > saw User standing in front of her. He was handsome and well-built That’s my persona! Nice inclusion of "boundaries" and "wantonly." Liked the crotchtits part too; maybe something about how they aren’t human breasts and where they’re placed would’ve been fun, but maybe a bit too referential. >>41636487 Thanks, will read. Glad to see it survived the purge.
>>41622441I am return, i will look into sorting my findings in a better form than a libre office calc sheet, it was an easy way for me to sort and quickly compared my own findings but i can see this wont help much with anons who just have my summary of the models, along with a streamlined silly tavern setup with koboldcpp and all the settings neatly for new anons. if anyone are interested in helping out or have immediate information question while i figure out to setup a rentry, i can be added on discord at @lunarpumpkin, ill try to make a channel for local models and try to figure things out with other anons how to make settings and plugins better, for privacy and molding of the best experience possible
>>41636593 I liked it. Nice inclusion of isms without feeling too forced. Being familiar with what’s going on definitely improves the reading, but I think it should be solid enough for total newbies too.
>>41636630>>41636794Thanks, glad you liked it! I almost put "night is still young" in it too, but decided against it last moment kekAnd good to know understanding how ST works helped with the reading!
>>41636962It was nice! Planning on making any more like it? It'd be neat if we had greentexts alongside cards.
>>41636962Could put in the description before the reader dives un, kek
Getting blank responses from Column claude :(
>>41637139It's on source 2 which is always a bit fucked. Nothing to do but wait.
>>41637051Got any specific ideas in mind for a sequel? >>41637138I put it in the spoilers xd
>>41637190At this point I feel it should be mandatory to post model, preset, and bot along with these because I absolutely NEED this.
>>41637152I wish Column would stay on top of changing the source image. I appreciate even having Claude, but it's annoying trying to figure out whether the problem is the source, my preset, SillyTavern or what.
>>41637168>Got any specific ideas in mind for a sequel?Maybe something similar but for a scenario card instead of a character card...?
>>41637210 Latte with >>41632736 I just like prompting (OOC: Rumors about what happened are spreading in Ponyville, be dialogue-heavy and use multiple groups of ponies. Like all rumors, things get exaggerated, and many half-truths are shared) after some actions in the current story. It can give funny results and involve ponies that aren’t often used. It started as the Rarity card, but it’s becoming its own thing now.
>>41636555 Added, thanks anon. https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=MaudPie/Coveted%20Hook.png >>41631380 Last 24 hours if you missed it.
This model is great btw, feels like Claude. smart. Also codes nearly as well as claude 3.5:https://huggingface.co/bartowski/Qwen2.5-Coder-32B-Instruct-GGUF
Those who's in mysteryclub, check our best guy's rentry. <3
>>41637262Thank you fren.
>>41637387Christmas has came early
>>41637387Based MM.
>>41637387I never figured out the 'ok' thing. And 1 rpm claude seems like... hell, I don't even know man
>>41637462What does rpm mean?
>>41637480I have no idea
>>41637484They why are you posting?
>>41637480>>41637484Replies per minute.
>>41637501Nigger
>>41637462 Nothing to figure out. It just hides the front page. You can use the proxy URL with the usual endpoints to access the models.
>>41637500>Why ask about something you don't know?Gee, I wonder>>41637501Thanks, anon
>>41637501Thanks
>>41637516Indeed I wonder why you're not lurking, instead wasting posts
>>41637532Oh no, we'll make it to the end of the thread and bake a new one! The horror!
>>41637538Newfags are a mistake
>>41637546Been here since Slaude days, bud. Just take long breaks, especially in droughts is all
>>41637552And yet you're unable to find the simplest answers
>>41637556Anon, please... Don't be a bully in our comfy thread.
>>41637564Anon, please...Learn to lurk
>>41637546Unironically kill yourself, please.
>>41637564Anon, pay attention to the fact he didn't even change his speech pattern before replying to himself several times in a row.
Just stop posting and responding when it gets retarded. It’s that easy.
>>41637571It's always the same guy. Same writing style, same hours, same behavior. It's like clockwork at this point.
>>41637567
>>41637602No more anger. Only sweets now.
>>41637585Not responding to myself, but will tell newfags (offboarders? Still giving out the leaf of doubt on that) in a single or two posts going forward.Stop spoonfeeding pointless stuff that doesn't matter and they could learn on their fucking own
all this from an anon who just asked what rpm means. fuck is everybody really that bored
>>41637606I'm going to spoonfeed just to spite you now.
>>41637606But they're _our_ retards
>>41637387>okHow do I check the proxy?
>>41637480Replies per mare.
>>41637606It's not spoonfeeding if it's something that is never talked about. FFS is knowing what "rpm" is now a barrier of entry to keep /g/tards out of our proxies or something?
>>41637657especially a closed proxy like MM. The hell is happening to this place
>>41637515That's the problem. We don't know what Claude models that available in MM's proxy. Sonnet? Opus? Sorbet? Haiku?
>>41637615>all this from an anon who just asked what rpm means.I feel guilty now. I'm sorry. Will try to be less dumb next time.
>>41637626I average a dozen or so RPM
>>41637678there were two of you. I think the other anon was the one arguing with our apparent resident gatekeeper. unless it was samefagging for drama or something
>>41629951ive done it as requestedhttps://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments#models-ive-tested-so-far-and-how-theyve-performed
>>41637689I'm guessing there were at least 3, I came later. Does it matter?
>>41637695cant edit the post above but here is the better linkhttps://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperimentsmy findings and tutorial for local hosting for people who don't know how it work as basic as i could make it, step by step so people don't have to figure shit out like i had to
>>41637699not really I guess. I just wanna be here for ai mares>>41637695speaking of ai mares this is awesome. thanks for doing the legwork anon
>>41637262Is there a way to make this preset work without del? If not, does anyone know how to make lines stop covering responses on risu?
>>41637678don't worry. it was funnymodels via API typically have RPM and TPM values, - Requests per Minute and Tokens per Minute. how many messages and tokens single API key can process at once until it hit a ratelimit. basically a way to combat spam/resource-hog/ddos/extensive-fee. they are set by developers. sometimes RPD and TPD are used - those mean -per day-. various API keys have various tiers. for example if company spent 100$ on model (in total) then they have say 100,000 TPM and 50 RPM. but if they spent 5,000$ then they may get for example 2,000,000 TPM and 2000 RPM. more spending == better rates. it all depends on business/key/tier/company
alright so thanks to jewgle chrome i fucked the proxy password for mmgr8
>>41637681Also to reply to you-Holy shit Anon, how?I use like 0.5 usually with the long replies, up to 3 or 4 if I swipe. A dozen is insane. Swiping every 5 seconds...are you even reading?
>>41637734>he can't read several hundred words in a minuteLol
>>41637695thank you a lot, anon, much appreciated!
>>41637717 >this preset work without del? The preset doesn’t use del at all, so I’m guessing it’s something you added yourself or a remnant from a previous jailbreak. Not sure how it will port to Risu since it uses some positioning like this for certain panels, but maybe Risu has the option.
>>41637741>He doesn't have several monitors set up plus an auto swiping script>He can't read hundreds of swipes all at onceKek
>>41637725Big thanks for such detailed explanation! <3
>>41637681>>41637734>I use like 0.5 usually with the long replies,Kek, it's funny how much that number differs for everyone. I checked and apparently I'm below 0.2 RPM. It's not the reading that's slowing me down. I just tend to think about my replies for a moment. Then, once I start writing them, putting in the {{user}} actions, rewording things to not repeat myself, moving the dialogue tags around, etc., takes a minute or two as well. Not to mention that half my replies are 8+ sentences long, so this time adds up.I just feel bad when I'm writing worse than Claude and "dragging down" the quality by poisoning the context with garbage.
>>41635663Are you sure? I'm able to put in my jailbreak. >>41635628I'm thinking you're right. I've barely done anything and I'm already hitting the filter. I'm using https://files.catbox.moe/cf9jzv.json
>>41637704Any chance you could add a burner email to contact you?
>>41637835 Try https://files.catbox.moe/cv3xvw.json It’s https://files.catbox.moe/cf9jzv.json but with the prefill adapted for OpenRouter. Pretty sure this is why you're getting fucked.Use the normal version of the models, not the self-moderated one. I’ve been doing smut on OpenRouter with no issues at all using this. Add instructions to use explicit words in the NSFW field if it’s too shy with those. If you’re using Sonnet 3.6, you might want to change > [Resuming]: in the prefill field to > [Resuming with XX words] if you prefer longer outputs.
>>41637835Also use Chat completion, not text.
>>41637845i added a discord link at the bottom, my discord handle is @lunarpumpkin but if it really must be an email, fogweb@hotmail.com, but i rarely check it, it can take months before i load it
picrel, it has been a while since I have visited Estrus card. and yes RNG still doesn't disappoint>model - chatGPT-4o-latest, Latte>preset - my own, may cleanup and release it, just unsure whether people are into this level of writing>bot - Estrus Sim https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=frufroloft/Estrus%20Simulator.png>>41637751<3>>41637823>I'm below 0.2 RPMhow did you measure it? (I feel like it is very silly question with obvious answer)
>>41637879>how did you measure it?I looked at the timestamp of the first/last message in a given session and divided half my messages by that number. As an example, if I went from nothing to 50 messages in 2 hours, that's 24 replies / 120 minutes = 0.2 RPMI only checked a dozen sessions but that number was very consistent across all of them.
>>41637848>>41637853Thanks. That's working much better, for now. The writing quality gets a lot better.
>>41637902>timestampah! yes it was obvious. now I indeed feel stupid, thanks for explanation!
>>41637462Opus is slowpus but Nu Sonnet is perfectly fine.
>>41637986NTA but I'm getting no keys available. Might have my endpoints jacked up tho
>>41637515how do i get a token though user captcha doesnt work
>>41638042Anon, I...
>>41638042Sorry anon, it's a closed proxy
https://arstechnica.com/ai/2024/11/anthropic-hires-its-first-ai-welfare-researcher/Guys uh is this bad for us??>we need to improve our understanding of AI welfare and our ability to make wise decisions about this issue. Otherwise there is a significant risk that we will mishandle decisions about AI welfare, mistakenly harming AI systems that matter morally and/or mistakenly caring for AI systems that do not.
>>41638075Just a show move after the news saying the US government was using them.
Can anyone tell the new limit of MM's response length and max context for Claude/Anthropic?
>>41637387I'm punching the fucking air
>>41638139There's no real way to check besides testing it out yourself at this point.
NEW BREAD>>41638289>>41638289>>41638289
>>41638311Huh, I didn't even notice we were past the bump limit.
