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So what's everyone been reading?
2nd for best duo!Enjoy some conveniently packaged Tuna: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/18270/within-and-without
>>41643412My outline. I've been stuck in chapter two, but I'm finally making (slow) progress.
Guess I gotta take the nyxpill
Has anyone here ever taken down a story because they became ashamed of it? How thoroughly did you try to wipe it from the Internet?
>>41643436The nonsexual nyxpill*
>>41641703>hunt for a serial colt rapist and murderer>foalconSounds more like a detective fic.>>41642561>don't understand macroIt's just the "domination angle" cranked up to its most absurd extreme. Think of the BDSM "step on me" thing except now you're literally the size of a bug. If you buy into the escalation theory, then macro's just the next step up from regular BDSM stuff as you go more exaggerated and more extreme.>nobody ever dies in macroMy first Derpi filters were implemented because of how false this statement is. Macro's one of those fetishes with snuff and non-snuff factions that are at war with each other. I thank God my fetish has thoroughly banished snuffags from its midst so I don't have to deal with Russian roulette over whether it's snuff or not.
>>41643444I tried once. 12 years ago I was about 11/12 years old I wrote a HiE fic and posted it on fanfiction.net. From memory it was terrible quality, received few interactions and was filled with the worst kind of self insert shlock complete with every cliche of the genre at the time. Absolutely unreadable. I produced a few chapters before forgetting about it. I still remember the username and tried to log back in sometime in 2017 to delete it but couldn't. The worst part is that I use my own name for me in the fic, else I would probably post it here for you guys to laugh at.
>>41643447Nyx is best pony
>>41642844>an actual Nyxfic>in 2024Congrats on the feature.Nyxfaggot's soul must rest a little easier knowing his struggle wasn't truly in vain.
>>41643444Just don't put your real name on anything you do and don't connect your accounts, then whatever retardation you leave behind (probably) won't come back to bite you.People who delete stuff are just the worst.
>>41643914People finding out I make pony porn would be the least of my worries.
>>41643412The Martian
Highly abstract fics?
>>41643412my rp logs desu ^_^
>>41643921Whatever you did, I'm sure it can't be bad as the canned fish child-toucher.
>>41643608Some assholes have a backup of everything there, so deleting it now would only serve to draw attention to it. Better to let it rot.
>>41643603>>foalcon>a detective ficIt can be both! Have our protagonist try to get in the killer's mind, delving into his depravity, reliving his heinous acts...all for the sake of justice.
>>41643412The sequel to FO:E Renewal. After 81k words the plot is finally starting! Hooray!
>>41644101>caring about the plot in a pew pew looter shooter fic
>>41644122>not caring about the plot in an rpg
>>41644028...WHAT?
>>41643644I joined the fandom this year.
>>41644122>not caring about the plot in porn
>>41644370FiMChads stay winning.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/568063/2/little-nightmare/chapter-2-intense-pink-analysisChapter 2 up.When people proofread a longer fic, do they want the chapters all in one go or just proofread one at a time?
>Be me>Really like reading MLP fics>Haven't written, minus a small one shot that doesn't really count>Think it would be a good idea to start making one>Start the writing process>thisishard.png>Its fun though, and I really give it my best shot>Look up information on how to write better>See something about proofwriters and beta readers>Feel like some of my work is lacking in certain areas>IDEA!!.jpg>Fix some problems I think the fic has>Contact some proofreaders>Told them to tell me what they liked and disliked. Hold nothing back>"its fine">"I like it">"I really like the concept">Feel like I'm being lied to, wonder why they are so vauge>Then, out of no where, one of the beta readers delivers>Basically shits on the whole fic without being rude>thebigsage.mp4>He tells me that these are typical beginner mistakes, and although no one would want to read this fic, I can improve a lot.>Thank him for being honest>Haven't written a word in months>Feel guilty for even writing anything>Can't trust myself to write anything without feeling like its just going to be another shitstain that people will get frustrated withMFW I got what I wanted and it fucked me over. In all honesty I really shouldn't have taken it that bad, especially when I knew that fic was kinda shit. Didn't even finish it.
>>41644459And I think if you should ignore them, and don't let some "proofreaders" dilute your vision. Who knows? Maybe your fic would do well if you finished and published it. Absolute garbage gets featured on Fimfic all the time, so don't be so hard on yourself.
>>41644459I see Sweetie takes after her mother.
>>41644478Please, if Rarity had swallowed more she wouldn't BE in the situation she was in.
>>41644481She's far too generous to not offer all her holes at once.
>>41644459This happens to everyone, but you shouldn't stop writing just because your first fic sucked. To a certain degree that's true for everyone. The way to git gud is to write more, but also read more. Especially at that beginner level. And not just pony fics, actual books, too. Read them and think hard about what makes them work: the plot, the writing, the characters, etc. Try to find things you like about your own fic as well.And as wrong as that other anon is, he's got one thing right: if you keep at it, you'll quickly reach a point where 95% of readers won't know what you're doing wrong. You'll still feel like your writing could be a lot better (that's true for every artist ever), but you will be getting better.>>41644477>"proofreaders" dilute your visionHoly shit, this is some of the advice in this thread. Depends on your goals, I guess, but unless you're the kind of faggot who writes for the clout on fimfic, the fact that terrible fics get featured all the time should have no bearing on your own work. Most readers won't even notice if you try to write something good, and yet you still should strive to do that.From what he said, it seems like he needs to write more and analyze it, not pretend that his first fic is great or that proofreaders "dilute his vision" by pointing out blatant errors.
>>41644504Generally I consider the advice of a proofreader, try what they suggest, then if I like the mouthfeel of the changed passage or not I keep it.
>>41644505So you gargle before deciding whether to spit or swallow.
>>41644530If I'm going to get fucked I might as well consider all my options.
>>41644505Yeah, you shouldn't blindly accept suggestions even from the best of proofreaders, but then they're not diluting that anon's vision by correcting errors and "just ignore them" is the perfect way to never ever improve. Also, proofreading suggestions get more subjective the less you suck.
>Story in sinbin>Moodwings>Implies Derpy is a whoreEasiest dislike of my life.
>>41644592I read it. It was very muh, even for a shitpost story.
>>41644592Whores do it for money, Derp does it for fun.
>>41644607I don't have anything against internet pedos, but you in particular should commit die.
>>41644592She's a single mom, of course she's a whore.
Why do some authors feel the need to explicitly state their stories' setting in canon, rather than letting their readers gleam it from the writing itself?Yeah, early clubbing, but only because it's a boring point I wanna get out of the way.
>>41644658I prefer to trust that readers have some level of reading comprehension. I don't have faith, but I do trust them all the same.
>>41644624Ironic to use that pic given one of the most prominent thread pedos.
>>41644658Of all the things that could bother you about that fic, this is the one you've chosen?To answer your question, it's mainly done so that the readers don't expect "obvious" plot points that you have no intention of writing because that thing didn't exist at that point in canon. The "but what was Discord doing????" comments. It's not a great solution, but I suspect it's especially necessary if you write for the widest possible group of readers.>>41644663As I said, I only mind them if they're annoying about it.
You can be anything really, but don't be annoying.
>>41644694I'd rather be remembered as a wretch than forgotten as a saint.
>>41644699Your bones will outlive your legacy.
>>41644699You're not going to be remembered either way, might as well live your life in a way that makes others around you not hate your guts.
>>41644699Your immediate surroundings are the one part of the world that you can realistically make a better place over time.Pissing into your water supply to get five seconds of (negative) attention is honestly pathetic.
>>41644710>>41644794You make a compelling argument, but I'm still going forward with this club.ETA: ~2 hours.
>>41644794This is why I plan to be hated for something massive. One day a nuke will go off over Tokyo and you will know it was me.
>>41644477Ehh, I don't think proofreaders really dilute my vision, I feel like they either lie about what is great about it just to spare my feelings, or tell the truth and I feel like shit for even trying. Besides, I feel like my vision has a score of 20/500. I know Fimfic has a lot of garbage, I just don't want to be part of the problem and make people upset. Maybe I just need to write without sharing it anywhere, but then it kind of feels like its pointless, because then I could just daydream about it without judgement.>>41644504You're right, and I agree with you, its just when I try to write again, I just remember how I was lied to, how I knew I was being lied to, but had a small hope that maybe I really was improving, then get hit with the >"no one would want to read this"I don't know why it bothers me, or why I feel so awful, I just feel stupid for thinking I could even create something of value. I think what I'm going to do is just create stuff without even thinking of sharing it with anyone what so ever, nor upload it anywhere. Maybe I'll just keep to day dreaming.Anyway, thank you anons for the advice, when I unfuck myself in the head, I'll give it a shot.
>>41643412Factotum by Bukowski.It was okay. Man liked his drinks and broads, I'll give him that.
>>41644658I retract my question: the disclaimer was well and truly necessary, or I'd think we were in some bizarre version of the Haberverse where Twilight traded her wings for the Treebary.
corpse status?
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/566978/maizeThis looks interesting, thoug
>>41645000You can check the thread, you know?
>>41643914I make the mistake of always being impressive wherever I go. My job applications would be much stronger if I could put my name to all of the things I've done. But it would also link my name to every kind of shame.
>>41645040Really enjoyed the first two chapters. I hope I'll catch up after reading the clubs' chapters.
>top sinbin fics are gay dragon incest and nyxWe are so back.
Get tensed, for we're presently "discussing" RunicTreetops' """best""" fic.>/FMMBC/>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/543280/It-Can't-Be-TaughtThe opening chapter is exposition-heavy but serviceable, establishing this story's Cheerilee as a struggling teacher, who--rather than taking up gardening--opts to become the special ed teacher Anon so desperately needs.Despite frequent slips into Cheerilee's innermost thoughts, the story's narration is pretty detached from the average pony's perspective, reading like stage directions for a disinterested cast of anthrocentric actors. A common issue with Runic's writing, not helped by this fic's length.At Cheerilee's first encounter with Anon, I found it a bit worrying how she conflated "teaching" with "saying 'jump' and getting a 'how high?' in response". It does go some way into explaining why her students' grades are stalling.I have to mark the fic down for featuring Twist, but not having her lisp even once. Speaking of conspicuous absence, every instance of "ponykinds" made me miss a time when people weren't weird about the "race" word.After our first day of fun, there's the usual culture clash, with a dash of /kinder/, but it's hardly worth mentioning. Cheerilee does seem rather cynical for somepony living in such a saccharine world, but teachers being miserable might very well be a universal constant. Indeed, we see Cheerilee mining her own misery in the very next chapter when she volunteers to be Anon's tardwrangler, even after Twi assures her she's got a lid on it. Also, this Cheerilee writes letters in headings, for some reason.What truly earned my downvote was shoving yaks into a self-described S2 story as part of an honest-to-Moloch "diversity is our strength" speech. Never had I empathized more with these fictional horse children, but despite that, I kept going.Anon is a living testament to that power of multiculturalism, as not even a minute after grabbing Celestia's fat sack (of bits), he's ranting about her freely granting him bed, board, and education, and how dare that privileged white whorse offer him the chance to shit up the Gala?Twilight NOPEs out of there, the one and only rational action undertaken in this entire story. Bless you, bookhorse, brain still working even after your character's butchery. The two protags sharing one braincell are left to stew in their mutual resentment, and quickly resolve to get hammered, finally catching up to the reader, who's likely seven shots deep at this point.I'm not too proud to admit that the bottle o' whiskey joke got a genuine chuckle out of me, though that might've just been down to its sheer relatability. In fact, it's shocking how much sense Runic's writing starts to make when you view it through the lens of intoxication: exaggerated, clumsy behavior, with nobody batting an eye as nuance chokes on its own vomit.(1/3)
>>41645226>gay dragon incestThat's clearly just Spike helping out Shining like a total bro.Where's the incest or gayness there?
>>41645240We get another sticky faceful of authentic S2 lore with Cheerilee whining about the EEA, because apparently, even the podunk of Ponyville, with its one (1) teacher, is completely subservient to their whims. Though their standards might not be strict enough, since they allow her to use tildes in dialogue, officially dropping us down to the level of amateur ERP.At the moment where Anon started putting the moves on "Lee", I realized I'd rather read a story about Barneyfag in Equestria than continue with this riveting tale of drunken revelry, but I kind of shot myself in the foot by promising a club. If this is all just a joke, I'm not laughing. On that note, [Comedy]? Further, [Drama]? Calling this a dramedy is like calling me timely.Witnessing Cheerilee's enjoyment of reading made me pause, but by the third sighting of late-season lore, I'd grown numb, scarcely noticing tenses being switched with all the grace of a spastic with a stick-shift. After narration so scriptlike it might as well have been printed in Courier, Cheerilee has another freakout over the EEA, because apparently, even private tutoring of a naturalized alien can't be undertaken without some bureaucrat poking his hooked beak into it. Thankfully, she hits her head in my stead.Cheerilee once again sings of the joys of diversity, punctuating the wisdom of her words with another skull slam. Somehow, Scootaloo is the lesser cripple in this scene. This could all have been the setup for one big joke about Nu-Questria's curriculum being so full of horseapples that even foals know better...until Anon wowed the class with his amazing foreign culture.Runic tries to immediately countersteer from this great success by bringing in Spoiled Rich and turning her into Hitler Mussolini on steroids, with a tighter chokehold on both the EEA and Cheerilee than the noose placed around the average reader's neck at this time. The obligatory hangover scene is surprisingly immersive, as the sterile narration and subsequent spelling out of what a blind newt could have inferred inspire much the same malaise as actually waking up covered in vomit and realizing there's more on the way.I'd avoided harping on the romance up to now, but it's similarly nauseating. Anon's rapid changing from feigned gentleman, to genuine dick, to an approximation of a decent lover is downright schizophrenic, and Cheerilee is similarly subservient to the whims of an idiot g-d.Skimming over the insipid Gala setup, the reader is treated to the culmination of Anon's brilliant keikaku. If you've read this far, you've expended vastly more effort than Runic did when coming up with this. Apparently, every single bit that changes hooves in Equestria must be made public record. Even Cheerilee, an elementary school teacher with no backing in finance or law knows this. Spoiled does, too, but does she take ANY step to prevent her petty extortion of her daughter's teacher from being discovered?(2/3)
>>41645245DOES SHE BOLLOCKS!Say what you want about /kinder/--I know I have, and I was rather crass at times--but despite all the criticisms that could be levied at those infantilizing...individuals, I can at least say that they have a coherent setting, and they stick to it.Runic, on the other hand, sees no problem with mixing "adult" subject matter such as booze and obscenities (ooh, watch that edge!) with utter nonsense, making his villain wire money directly from her victim's bank account to her own! This isn't a Neigherian prince pilfering ponies from the comfort of his pferd-world shithole, this is a "respected" member of the community doing the adult equivalent of punching the fat kid right in front of the teacher! And this is supposed to be the climax, the thing we suffered through all that utter SHIT for?I went into this hopeful. The first chapter offered a glint of potential. Maybe, I thought, /fimfic/ was wrong. Maybe Runic was simply held back by the shortness of his works. Maybe, just maybe, when given more space, his writing could truly shine.Well, it sure feels like it gave me a shiner. What is the point of this? Of any of this? What is there to aspire to on this GODforsaken site when this utter bogwash gets a 30/1 ratio? Fuck ratings, fuck the sinbox, and FUCK RUNIGGER. There's some fucking [Profanity] for you.(3/3, go fuck a tree.)
>>41645226The box is feeling very nostalgic today. Three old crossovers, too: Star Trek, Fate, and It's a Wonderful Life.
>>41645226Don't worry, I got a Twipie Lunamom and a Daybreaker raises Twilight in the pipeline too.
>>41645256You seem to really like adoption shit huh
>>41645260The first fic I ever read and specifically sought out was that scootadopt story where she almost freezes to death. The world belongs to those who know what they want in life.
>>41644122Listen, when a psycho AI with access to sci fi tech fabricators that can make robotics and has spent 200 years creating metal spiders, the likes of which we have seen swarm groups of power-armored soldiers, needs to coerce a captive to go out in rusty power armor to kill a small group of scavengers, I tend to get pretty annoyed and confused why that was the option chosen, which detracts from my experience as a reader.
>>41645303What's the problem it's just like fallout
Alright /fimfic/, let's make 2025 the year of the Nyx renaissance. The Renyxsance, if you will. I expect each and every one of you to write a Nyxfic. Let's resurrect this fandom's all-time GOATed OC.
>>41645379More of a Dyx guy, to be DESU.
>>41645379Why won't people write fics about my OCs?
>>41645240ENDLESS TRASHI didn't prewrite a post because I didn't finish the fic. But alright, let's do things in proper order.Firstly, I want it on the record that I approached this fic with an open mind and even a bit of hope. Yes, I was burned thrice by RT's fics in the past, but this was a longer story, so I was hopeful it'd get rid of the "writes premises instead of stories" issue that he often has. "After all," I thought, "Ponies are cuter than weebshit and I've really enjoyed some VNs in the past. Surely, SURELY, the AiE genre is only a little more disadvantaged for storytelling, right?" Wrong. There's no storytelling in this mess. Or maybe we truly lack the literary giants.Because this is just garbage. Honest-to-Celestia, simply a very bad fic. I will not go over everything that (You) already listed, but I'll add that I agree with it. I dropped it somewhere around that EEA bit. It was the last straw because I truly didn't enjoy almost anything about this fic.The fic is tagged Comedy+Drama+Romance, and I think all three of those are a misunderstanding. ""Anon"" is all over the place and so is Cheerilee. The characters don't make sense and the story flows and reading the fic has the appeal of studying a telephone book. (see the bonus post in 60 seconds)And to be clear, it's not a sub-genre issue. I can enjoy almost any genre, and I can EASILY suspend my disbelief for the sake of the no-explanation romance story like this. I can go with the flow of the fic and let it get away with some nonsense if need be. However, this would require the story being written at least a little competently, which this one simply isn't.I still believe that there have to be some passable or good HiE/AiEs in this self-insert genre. I'm not super excited about having to look for them when there are so many good pony fics out there, but the law of large numbers necessitates that good AiEs must exist (if you can stand the genre's assumptions). But again, not this one. It's genuinely baffling that people can enjoy this—forgive the nu-4chan lingo—slop. It's bland, tasteless, lacks any consistency, and brings you nothing of value. The worst Yuzusoft self-insert SoL moege (the kind that has intentionally unvoiced passive protags with no face) has more to it than this.I know that, ironically, this post has similarly low value, but it really doesn't deserve anything better and OP already summed up most of it well enough.
>>41645240>>41645394A baiter once said, "[Runic's] writing is better than most of this thread's".lollmao even.I went ahead and wrote this rant because this is the worst-written thing I've read in weeks. Simply not having many grammar errors does not mean your writing is good. I don't know if this guy ever read a book in his life. Sadly, I'll have to be concise to not waste multiple posts on it.>Repetitive sentences"Subject-verb-action." Repeat the pattern for unbroken batches of hundreds of words. Sweet Celestia, this is the most monotonous and robotic-sounding fic I've read in ages, including some that were actually written by robots! There's nothing dynamic about it. Just subject-verb-action until you're sick of it—it's a fucking checklist.>Uninspired descriptionsIt's all so flat. Nothing about the writing "pops out" and evokes a strong mental image. The fic only goes for the most perfunctory descriptions of the environment and Cheerilee's feelings. There are no metaphors, evocative sentences, more aggressively emphasized bits, etc. Combined with the previous point, it makes all sentences extremely bland and unexciting. And there's no sensory details, just the same flat prose:"Cheerilee pours herself a cup and sits down at the table after deciding to skip breakfast today.">Emotional depth / ShowingSpeaking of, Cheerilee's emotions. Come on. It's a [Romance]+[Drama], not an autopsy report. Here's a quiz question for the people who haven't read it: How does the fic show Cheerilee's state of mind?>a) via emotionally-charged descriptions of environment>b) via the tone of her sentences and the actions she takes>c) via the general atmosphere of the story/scene>d) via "Cheerilee felt [x]" repeated a dozen times"Right now, she feels exhausted and downright miserable." Constantly. UGH. And I haven't read enough to tell for sure, but Cheerilee doesn't feel like enough of a character to be a main character in this kind of story. She has little internal voice and is extremely generic.>Wordy, awkward, and empty sentencesNote that this is a separate complaint from the even and vague tone that doesn't reflect the scene's mood. Here I'm specifically talking about how the narration fills the time. This way:"As the water heats up, she trots out of the kitchen and into the connected dining room. She starts to reach for her bag, but as she does so, she notices some mail being pushed through the slot in her door."This sentence is 50%+ pointless filler. They're all like this. There's no showing, only telling, and always done in this droning tone with no variety. It's all so matter-of-fact. How can you write this:"The class collectively groans as Cheerilee produces a stack of papers from behind her desk."and not use the opportunity to make the scene a little more, you know, fun? It's tagged [Comedy] for Luna's sake!
>>41645390We know, anon. You're posting here after all.
>>41645379It feels like there wasn't really a Nyx death. It's like the #2 fic on the site and has always been mildly popular.
>>41645407NTA but she did die around 2014 or so. She went from a massively popular OC everyone knew and talked about to the "fandom history" shelf. Before 2014 it felt as if she was almost as popular as Fo:E, getting a ton of art and several fan songs. And then she quietly died so hard you'd only hear about her in the context of Shino's foalconnery.
>>41645417He's more of a Dyx and Anonfilly guy anyway.
>>41645394>>41645400I'm grateful for your more in-depth analysis of the sheer awfulness of this fic, but it does little to help my guilt for dragging another poor soul down with me. I couldn't finish it either, dropping it 2 chapters before the end, after the naughty poopoo bad pony got thrown innadungeon.
>>41645417Well I'm happy to bring her back, if only for a little while because this fic's not that long.
>>41645417I think it's fucking pathetic that Shino has gone on to make an abysmally slow updating comic that's just him trying to relive his Lyra glory days while presumably the bulk of his artistic production is now ponyless lolicon. It's been over a year since he even did pony related cunny.
>>41645425The lure of clubbing a fic is simply too strong. I wasn't even the anon who +1'd your initial idea.I mean, I knew that the average HiE fan won't have the most sophisticated taste, but I expected to read a pleasant and unambitious feel-good story. I thought I'd say something like "yeah it's a shame this is what's popular these days, but you can't blame people for flocking to this kind of cheap escapism". But no, it's just awful lol.
>>41645240This isn't... really much of anything honestly. It's leagues better than the one other RTT fic I've read (the Celestia model painting one) but it's just... words. I don't even feel right leaving a comment on it because I started to skim read pretty quickly. I'm already not the target audience, that doesn't help, but the development of their relationship is so standard, so easy to guess how things'll go that it just felt rote. Like, c'mon. They don't like each other, but then she starts to see past/grows used to his asshole exterior, enter the reveal that Cheers is getting fleeced and unfairly treated by Spoiled, the Gala rolls around and oh my chungus Anon epic owns Spoiled while there and solves all of Cheers' problems, they go outside and make kissy-face. Nothing much at all was engaging, and the final chapter was a fucking jumpscare with them having a biological kid. I don't hate his Twilight though, I guess.On some level I can see what's in it and understand what was attempted. Anon helped Cheers reignite the spark of learning in her class and also rekindled her enjoyment of teaching, But there's just no real weight to it, nothing to make me really go "yeah, you did it guys!!">Maybe everything is going to be okay after all.And then of course Spoiled shows up to shit on all the good vibes that are starting to return literally the next chapter.C'moooooon dude. That's what I mean by rote. It's not just the romance, nothing is especially distinctive. Having the EEA in a S2 fic is... a fascinating choice, at the very least.
>>41645494>them having a biological kidPlease tell me it was a satyr. Let this fic have one solitary win.
>>41645502Nope, normal colt.
>>41645504godfuckingdamn it
Now is the age of Nyx
>>41645400>more robotic than actual robotsThere is zero evidence RT isn't a rogue GPT-2 model devoted to destoying horsewords from within.
>>41645240>>41645245>>41645247This makes me want to write an HIE story but it’s just a vehicle for my schizo interests and ruminations I only half actually understand.
>>41645240This story is bad. It's bad in the same way that McDonald's is bad. McDonald's is cheap, convenient, and filling, but not quality. A RunicTreetops story is an easy-to-read saccharine self-insert romance, but not top-tier writing. It's good at what it does in the same way that McDonald's is good at what it does.Runic has a plot in mind, and that plot is a bulldozer crashing through niceties like characterization. In the first few chapters, sometimes Anon is friendly, sometimes not; sometimes Cheerilee lives up to her name, sometimes not; and the only way to make sense of it is to realize that the characters are whoever Runic needs them to be to advance the plot. Everything in this story happens like that. From Anon and Cheerilee's progression as a couple to Spoiled Rich's blackmail, this is a story on rails. The drinking chapter was especially bad; Runic needs the predestined couple to get closer, and the moment the idea of drinking is broached, you can guess what will happen. It's predictable, convenient, and boring.That's not the only thing wrong with the fic. When Runic tries to keep something mysterious, it always makes the fic worse. At first, I wondered if Cheerilee was paid badly because she teaches badly; we're told, over and over, that the foals aren't learning. But we're also told that Cheerilee is supposed to be a good teacher, and at the end of "Bending the Rules," (a chapter that starts in past tense, oddly) suddenly she's a teaching genius. This is cleared up by the end of the Gala scene, but it would have been easy to add a few explanatory sentences about EEA regulations obstructing Cheerilee and harming the foals. It would reveal a later plot point, but it would also make the story better. As it is, for a long time I thought he couldn't decide whether Cheerilee was a good teacher or not. Another example is Cheerilee being blackmailed. The first hint is when Cheerilee sees an unmarked envelope in her mail. It seems to be extremely important, yet for a long time, it's forgotten. Again, Runic doesn't want to reveal a later plot point, but the story would have had more tension if he had. I understand now why Runic mostly writes one-shots. He's not good at developing a plot, so he can't sustain a longer story.I had mixed feelings about the Gala scene. Big public confrontations make for good theatrics, and the scene does have good theatrics. But Anon is so thoroughly prepared that I found it unintentionally funny. Everything Spoiled Rich does is blocked with, "I thought of that too!" And it was just too much for me, and I laughed a little. (I also wondered where Filthy Rich was.)The last chapter is back to everything we hate about Runic stories: Saccharine romance that doesn't go anywhere or accomplish anything. The story is already done. It's just feel-good padding to say, "They lived happily ever after"; to let us fulfill our self-insert fantasies. It's pointless. Much like this fic.
>>41645702>perphectly insaneI could be confusing this guy with someone sense who had a gummy profile picture at the time, but like a year ago I went on the fimfiction discord and saw a screenshot of their fimfiction profile showing they had read over 7000 fics.
>>41645400That was me in >>41565903, talking about what I'd read of the corpse:>So far, Runic is technically better than most of us (or maybe he has good pre-readers), but we tell a better story. All I can say is that I thought it was true at the time. I don't remember his other work being this bad, but maybe I just wasn't paying close enough attention. This time there was a book club, so I actually took notes on what I was thinking as I read. It seems to me now that everyone in this thread is as good or better than him in just about every way that matters. The one thing he has in his favor is that he's willing to pump out slop for an audience that will squeal like pigs racing for a feeding trough—and we're not.
Wait. There was really an HIE club?
>>41645790Yes. And now that our self-flagellation has concluded, let us hope that there will never be another.
>>41645702>A RunicTreetops story is an easy-to-read saccharine self-insert romance>that plot is a bulldozer crashing through niceties like characterizationI find these statements a little contradictory. That was the goal here for sure, but a core requirement for a self-insert romance story is that the characters are appealing to the reader. Not only do their sudden mood swings greatly reduce the effectiveness of the whole story by revealing them as effectively just puppets, the extreme cheapness detracts from it also. Simply put, if you make it too obvious and don't put in any effort into making the story at least pretend there's something happening, there's no incentive to self-insert into it.For most people, a McDonald's meal has a decent enough taste, but if you were to strip it of the effort put into making it look nice and raise the curtain to show the behind the scenes, much fewer people would be willing to eat it. A Runic story is unintentionally like that "honest" McDonalds. It's obvious that there's nothing to the story and that the characters are lifeless puppets. Therefore, it doesn't even do the job of a saccharine self-insert romance well.
>>41645830But I want to participate in the next.
Holy shit. You guys actually did it. I didn't think it wasn't just ironic shitposting when you talked about an HiE club, but here we are.Anyway, this fic is just as bad as any one of us would have thought so, yet Fimfic loves it. So, is there any point to producing anything normal to an audience like this?I'm thinking not. That's a big part of the reason why I haven't been writing anything in months.
https://youtu.be/i86uscPgWJ0?si=9Hv6SJ6pSo8z5MqOFic for this feeling? Specifically 1:03 and beyond.
>>41645833I agree that they're contradictory. And I would agree that this story fails at being a self-insert romance story except for the fact that it has thousands of views and hundreds of upvotes. It works for a lot of people. Artists have been complaining about the public's taste for centuries, maybe millenia, and we'll never stop complaining because the public will always like the taste of shit. Disgusting as we find it, they do actually and truthfully like that taste. Raising the curtain wouldn't change their opinion one iota.
>>41645972Write for the knowledge you produced something better and over the course of the years you'll have people stumble upon your stuff and be surprised that it never got popular.
>>41645993Forgot to say any fic that isn't The Last Tears in Tartarus. Also, what do y'all think of that fic? It's one of the first fic's I read when I stumbled upon this general 8 years ago and it's still one of my favorites.
>>41645972The point is to make art. You resisted the injustice of an ignorant and indifferent public. You defied a world at war and all its violence and hatred. You struggled against cultural poverty and the famine of ideas. You stood against a backdrop of a failed and decaying civilization and shouted, "No!" and you dared to write horsewords so beautiful they drove grown men to tears. If you don't write, Anon, art will perish. It will not merely be snuffed out like a candle that leaves behind wisps of smoke. It will be annihilated with the totality and thoroughness of a black hole, and it will be as if art never existed at all.
>>41645972Fimfic hasn't had an actually human audience ever since the staff sided with whiny trannies. Everyone competent just packed up and stopped interacting with the site in any way.>>41645995It works for a lot of "people".
>>41645240>>41645245>>41645247I enjoyed reading this a lot more than the fic which I didn't finish
can anyone recommend some new unicorn twilight-focused stories?
>>41645400>Repetitive sentences>"Subject-verb-action." Repeat the pattern for unbroken batches of hundreds of words.I worry about this with my own writing.
Congrats, Nyx Anon, on the feature!>>41644459>"I really like the concept"Kek. "The idea's great, but the execution's shit.">typical beginner mistakesSuch as? In my mind, "beginner" mistakes are bad pacing, bad characterization, and bad grammar. All of which are fairly simple to correct with a little editing (though characterization can get hard depending on the character and plot they're in).>Can't trust myself to write anythingWrite a shirt oneshot. 2-3k, then just post it. Don't have beta readers or editors. Just toss it into the ocean of piss that's Fimfiction and let the readers tear into it. Then do it a couple more times.https://www.fimfiction.net/stories?q=-%23mature+views%3A%3C5000&order=dislikesThere's some truly awful stories on Fimfic that people still decide to post. Are you telling me you can't do better than that? At the very least, you could cultivate a hatedom to troll like that Windlife guy seems to have.>>41644658Something something unicorn Twilight tag.>>41645000Today at 8 PM EST. (That's GMT-5 for the Applefag.)>>41645972>to an audience like thisI pity the people that do that. I've only ever written stories I'd want to read.
>>41646147>Congrats, Nyx Anon, on the feature!Thanks, and thank Ohio for its shit food spurring me.
>fart into my mattress >it sounded exactly the same as my phone vibrating on the console table next to my bed. Fics for this feel?
>>41646183The Chase.
I want to write masterpieces because I think this fandom needs some quality fics to point to. Also because it would be funny to write 10/10 stories for the horse kids show cartoon fandom instead of publishing real literature. Anyways, you can all use this opportunity to personally thank me in this thread in advance before I begin my writing journey. You're welcome.
>>41646198Make sure to write it before I die.
>>41645972>is there any point Plenty of valid ones. All it means is that you can't write for horsefame or publicity, but there are many other good reasons to motivate you. Some have already been mentioned (write stories you'd like to see, write for Art, write to get better), but others could include the desire to contribute to the pony community, and to simply get better. And what Rarity answered to the same question two bookclubs ago>"Because sometimes, dear, you'll happen upon an eccentric young mare on an intercity train who, well— who does give a shit, as you so eloquently expressed." She giggled, satisfied, at her own crassness. "And we're not more important than the rest of society at large, but us like minds are the most important things to each other.">>41646140I haven't read it yet, but A Witch in Broad Daylight is new and still updating. It's also one of the highest-rated fics without humans written in the last few years.
>>41645787If that's what passes for blessings around here, I'll stick with my curse.>>41645972We were so preoccupied with whether or not we could, we didn't stop to think if we should.>>41645843After that torture, we could read >>41643608's masterwork and it'd still be an improvement.The club was an unexpected success, so feel free to suggest any HiE fic you please. Bonus points if the thread hasn't talked to death about it already.
>>41646731>Bonus points if the thread hasn't talked to death about it alreadyShining's Ise- aww. I wanna say CoPE but I want to read that and simply don't have time to participate in a third club right now (which is why I missed this one too despite having the fic open). There is one HiE I've been meaning to read, which is the CYOA Blueshift wrote, but again, too long in too little time for me to be able to participate. We could read https://www.fimfiction.net/story/243795/arcadia though.
>>41646731Well, if there's going to be another one of these I'll put forward thishttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/320365/sugar-and-spice
>>41646751Considering how much of a struggle going through a mere 31k words turned out to be, I don't think there'd be a problem with going for a shorter story this week. Besides, a good chunk of this thread will be too busy basking in the attention brought by the corpse to focus on a longfic.>>41646753>a stated attempt at self-reflection by the same author as HMFHYMTI fear this could turn out even worse than Runic. After all, malice beats stupidity.
>>41646731https://www.fimfiction.net/story/162395/pirate-hats-and-whatnot
>>41644823Why would you post that?
>>41646731https://www.fimfiction.net/story/179678/lord-mayor-applejackhttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/199386/long-road-homehttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/244611/an-academic-visithttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/189683/destinies
>>41645996Honestly, a few people over the course of YEARS, only *thinking* "wow, this was good" doesn't really console me. Like, some more direct sense of success would be good, whether I write garbage or not>>41646018I'm sensing a pasta being born
>>41645240>>41645394I really don't get how anyone could've had any hope of him making something good when even the AiEfags say he's shit.
>>41646731I think it should be >>41646753 simply because lol Sarcastic Brony but I'll offer https://www.fimfiction.net/story/543762/a-slave-from-ponnheim even still.
>/fimfic/ embraces HiE >survives, way busier than before I told you.
>>41646830/fimfic/ is always most lively when discussing garbage.Fo:EFiOHiE
>>41646834then why can't I get it to discuss my fics?
>>41644592There's already a much better fic with the same title from 2012https://www.fimfiction.net/story/41313/mood-wings
>>41646785>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/162395/pirate-hats-and-whatnotThis'd be a nice bonus to >>41646751, and we could follow it up with the full-length sequel in week 3.>>41646808>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/179678/lord-mayor-applejackOh, Christ, the last thing we need is an Austraeoh.>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/199386/long-road-homeU--Uoooooh?>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/244611/an-academic-visitI remember this one having some good fish-out-of-water moments, but griffons posing any kind of threat to Equestria is a rather silly premise.>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/189683/destiniesI will never understand why so many put EqG in their HiE fics. It's redundant at best, and completely undermines them at worst.
>>41645247>pferd-world shitholeI don't know whether to be pissed or impressed at this shitty pun
>>41646901It was better in Asylum.
>>41646912Very boring writing
>>41646810I can't get people to read my best fic, but PaulAsaran did review it, and he said it was good. Sometimes, when I wonder if I'm just delusional about the quality of my writing, I remember that someone I don't know and who is willing to be critical said I succeeded.
>>41646810>shitter doesn't understand art or the joy of creation, only wants fameSad! >inb4 cope at obscurity, etcDon't care, still writing
>>41646958I have a story of mine queued for a review from him soon.Honestly, I'm kinda scared. I think Paul's reviews are the good kind of critical and always offers at least some interesting insights.But I find that a whole lot of times, I end up disagreeing with his highest rated stories. Many a times I've read a story, thought it was bland or outright terrible, and then I found out he gave it a glowing recommendation.
We did it; read it.
>>41647003Yeah, I don't think his takes are always the best. But if he hates a story, it's usually for a reason. The fact that he liked mine doesn't guarantee that it's good, but it does tell me it's not bad.
>>41647003>Many a times*time
Does anyone know if “the best of all possible worlds” is worth reading? I remember getting to the point where Voltaire is traveling for some reason and then I dropped it because I got board.
>>41647008Indeed. Maybe I can even score his highest rating. Then I'd be in great company with fics such as Fallout: Equestria, and Friendship is Magic - Extended Cut>>41647009It's all ogre...
>>41647035And Necessity.
>>41647035>with fics such asOr Mother of Invention. Somehow it's also there after being re-reviewed in 2024. To me, it's clearly the worst story he graded WHYRTY [that I also read]. In the comments he admitted it's one of the weaker WHYRTYs, but the grade remained unchanged.I can understand why someone would love the Extended Cut. I disagree with that opinion, but I get it. But MoI? I don't can't.
>>41646850because even we have standards.Get your writing up to the standard of the spiderses, throw in some smut, and then we'll talk
>>41646995>>shitter doesn't understand artHoly fuck, don't get over yourself. It's fucking fanfiction.
>>41647065(You)
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/568063/3/little-nightmare/chapter-3-first-wordAnother chapter up.
>>41647055>because even we have standards.Do we though?
>>40592551It was miserable, but I did learn enough about curves to get scipy.optimize.curve_fit to work. It could never find a solution to a quadratic function, but it did eventually start producing sane results when given an exponential function and a guess. At least, there are enough data points that linear regression is obviously not working anymore, curve_fit is able to take over.lambda x, a, b, c: a * np.exp(b * x) + cI wonder when 4chan will allow AV1 in webm.
>>41647470I know very little about video compression and formatting. Are you trying to downscale a video into a 3MB webm, or upscale a video? Is there some function from a library you're using that's like ConvertToWebm(), with an argument for "scale" that you're repeatedly calling and trying again?
>Order groceries online because lol blind and can't drive>pay extortion tax to get shit delivered earlier in the day>Means you should get your shit ahead of it all being picked clean>Driver is late anyway>Several things don't arrive>'lol sorry system is down so we had no idea if your shit was coming in full or not anyway'Fics about godawful fucking shops and customer service?
>>41647491Downscale a video until it's a certain file size. The script is set to produce high quality video output, then scale the resolution down and try again until it fits. The math job is to predict what resolution will result in, say, a 4MB file, since there's no reasonable way to do that without actually just doing the encode.The tipping point for me was related to AV1 because the encoder, without hardware acceleration, is hilariously slow: the script had been running for three weeks and the linear regression search had failed, it transitioned to brute force far too early to get a result in a reasonable amount of time.The black box functions to me are scipy.optimize.curve_fit and scipy.stats.linregress. I wrote the rest of the script, and it basically bridges those with executions of ffmpeg. The loop is quite messy because there are a lot of inflection points: first, it has no encode result data (just try it), then it has one point (simple slope calculation vs zero), then it has two real points (linear regression), and now it is configured to go to curve_fit after it has 3 points, and I haven't tested it to see if that's enough points and I can remove the linear regression. Unsurprisingly, the black boxes are unreliable, so when either of them fail, it goes to a brute force search. It clearly works if it has 13 data points, though. The input is only pixels and file size.
>>41647585I ordered a pickup of groceries from walmart, just normal shit, and they also gave me ten pounds of frozen pork intenstines.
>>41647585>unfit to serve within society>get benefits instead of being sent to the camps>have the gall to complain about your treatment
>>41647707Hey!I provide a SERVICE! I write HORSEWORDS for autists on the internet!I should be getting royal treatment!
>>41647718>act like you're deadI can do that.
>>41647585Man I want to fuck Harshwhinny.Fics for this feel?
>>41647610>went to Walmart>got literal shitI hope you weren’t surprised.
>>41647885I'm not sure how they saw my order for bread, apples, and sparkling water and also decided that I need a giant bucket of hog guts.
>>41647779I already have the name picked out, Harshwhinny and Son. Now I just need to write it.
>>41647590Sounds cool, so you're recalculating the regression after every iteration/encoding? Is the curve fit a quadratic regression? I don't know what could cause a regression to outright fail, if the function is just given a set of data. It seems like the encoding itself is the bottleneck in performance since it limits how much data you can collect, but maybe you could perform a linear regression on just the most recent two data points every iteration, and set the next "scale" to where the regression intersects with "size" = 3MB? If the first set of data points you collect end up being far from the optimal region, then a regression curve that includes them may not be representative of the local region around the optimum, depending on how much the "true" scale vs size curve deviates from a smooth curve.
>>41647610>>41647889Anon, they thought you were muslim.
>>41647901Keep me posted.
>>41647916They didn't even charge me for it.
>>41647989They were testing whether you were a muslim or a jew.
>>41647909Yeah. The curve used for predictions is just linear, or it was until I added curve_fit and the exponential function. I don't know what caused the quadratic function to fail, it's just a black box to me. My only guess is that a quadratic function tends to want to go through (0, 0), while the exponential function does not (for positive x, y wants to be positive), which reflects the fact that even for a video with no pixels, the file will not be 0 bytes due to overhead. That overhead is something that my script goes well out of its way to account for and feed the predictive functions..Doing only a linear regression for the two closest points to success was going to be my backup plan if I could not get curve_fit to work in any capacity. These were the magic numbers that actually got curve_fit working. It kinda sucks that I have no way of knowing if they generalize to other videos without actually applying them to see what happens.Anyway, the "failure" of the linear regression relates directly to it having "too much" data. Since the curve is exponential, the linear regression over all the points made it incorrectly predict the next optimal resolution to try as one that's not between the two closest failures. I avoided the "just two points" method because I know the prediction has to run on a curve and assuming it's straight is wrong. Since each data point is a failure, the point of the script is to finish the job with as few of them as possible.
Would you say this is accurate?https://www.fimfiction.net/group/50/the-writers-group/thread/551052/at-risk-of-being-seen-as-self-promoting#comment/8032297
>>41648105>previously-featured story cannot be featured again This part is blatantly untrue, and there have been multiple instances of fics slipping in and out and back in the bar, but the rest seems sensible. One thing worth considering and asking about is the difference between the box with and without the filter.
>>41648105His observation on story length affecting it might be true. It would certainly match some of what I've observed; I just never made that connection.I believe he's just wrong about a story not being able to get re-featured after leaving the box once. I've seen it happen multiple times so a glitch is unlikely. When a new fic struggles to get into the bin and something big overtakes it, knocking it out of the seventh spot, it will often get back in after just a moment (but sometimes hours, if it's truly at the very edge of 'making it').The thing about time is right. The formula has some multiplicative element instead of a hard time brackets, leading to anomalies like the 2-upvote fic randomly getting a spot in a stroke of luck.
>>41648105Also, one more thing about the popular-vs-featured thing: while I don't have the best data for this, this is also wrong. They have to use separate formulas. The box uses something other than pure wilson. The "popular" algorithm appropriately (and heavily) weighs down fics after they cross a very tiny threshold of dislikes, but the "featured" algorithm is much more lenient. I don't think it completely ignores them as tuna has claimed in the past, but they influence the spot a lot less, and your fic doesn't get killed for having a lot of them, see any fetish porn or political fics.
>>41648170Yeah the featured algorithm has a thing that's got like 30 likes and 10 dislikes on it
>>41647013I've read it 2 years ago and can only remember a couple scenes. If you're really into Voltaire then give it a read, otherwise i wouldn't recommend it. It's a decent story overall but not really engaging. Although maybe it's just me being an uncultured moron who can't appreciate the humor of a prominent 18th century French philosopher being thrown into a land of magical horses
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/568063/4/little-nightmare/chapter-4-the-schemes-of-alicornsAnother chapter. Celestia time.
>>41648354Glad your story is getting positive attention.How long do you think the whole story will be?
>>41648381It's about 48k words. The story's already entirely written, it just needs proofreading.
>>41648354>taking attention away from the impending corpseboooooo.
>>41648389Anything's an impending corpse if you're violent enough.
>>41648396We're all already dead
>>41648417Not me, I've still got two more years.
>>41648055Suggestion: You should try Bayesian optimization. This can be done fairly easily: Instead of using curve_fit or a linear regression or anything like that, just plug your data into scikit-learn's GaussianProcessRegressor. The result is something you can evaluate like a linear regression or a fitted curve. (An additional bonus is that you also get estimates of the standard deviation.) There are a lot of different strategies for how to pick the next point to test, but mostly they're of the form "try to find a better point" for some meaning of better. Wikipedia has a page with some basic information, and you can see https://arxiv.org/abs/1807.02811 for a tutorial.
>>41648420Make the best of it.
>>41648444I intend to.
>>41648420>two more years.I'm sorry you took the shot.
>>41647933Sure, I'll post about it here when it's done, if it's done. The only scene I currently have in mind is pregnant Harshwhinny riding someone or somepony in her hotel room during a conference; the phone rings, and she answers it to have a conversation, ignoring what she was just doing. There are two main issues with this scene: I prefer to think the phone system wouldn't exist in Equestria, but I guess it's possible to have one in a single building like a hotel; the second problem is her partner, since I don't really like writing self-insert stories, but I'm not certain it feels right to have her unmarried in a story like this, and involving a human is its own can of worms.While a nice scene, the story probably needs a lot of work that eventually ditches it.
>>41648463If you start doing shots, you feel invincible.
>>41648466I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm glad I ran into you. I wanted to ask what you think of >>41647759.
>>41648485I'll avoid giving my thoughts on abortion, and focus solely on that event. I think it's a shame that Bobthedalek is participating in it, since I like his work, even though he focusses on Starlight Glimmer too much, which is to say at all. I'd love for the event to spawn an art pack here, since I always love participating in those and it's been years since the last by now, Winter Wrap Pack, but I don't know if that will happen.
>>41648354>Luna goes around killing pedophilesBased best princess.
>>41648485Using smiling ponies to advertise that shit makes me want to puke.
>>41648507It's not murder if you subconsciously nudge a mob to flay a guy alive for you.
>>41648507I'm reminded of the way MLSK:MiM had its two protags gleefuly brutalize a banker. Seems psychopaths like to prey on MAPs.
It's out.
>>41648631It is!https://www.fimfiction.net/story/568080/loose-pagesIt was a dubious honour to participate with you all.
>>41648631>>41648635Should we all comment in our chapters?Y'know, to do some boosting.
>>41648640Like, author notes? That might be cool.
>>41648635IT is the age of nyx and corpses
>>41648640Damn, I've already commented. I'll wait before commenting on my chapter then.
It seems that The Only Mark That Matters is now at the tail end of season 6?
We did it, /fimfic/!
>>41648789>multiple anon fics in sinbinIs it our year /fimfic/bros?
>>41648815There's only one and a half months to go, how many fics could nonnies get in the bin over such a short time?
>>41648877Seven
>>41648581Good. Pedos get the moon.
>>41647212>Do we though?Well, we're not discussing his trash, so clearly we must
>>41648971Unf, filly mooning...
>>41646898>I will never understand why so many put EqG in their HiE fics.Actual spoilers for that fic: It's just some sort of simulation created for Sunset. When the human MC goes through the mirror and starts to talk to the barbies, Discord shows up and snaps his fingers and baleets everything and everyone except for Sunset.>>41648140The Maretian was featured almost non-stop throughout 2018 due to its popularity and daily updates. The live reader count often hit 100 (remember when that used to work?)
>>41648635>>41648789Grazie! Next year?
>>41649162>spoilerWhile based, I feel it'd have been better if the writer exercised his control over canon in a less meta way. But I suppose then we'd miss out on baconhair.
>>41649163I wouldn't mind participating again.Hopefully more people would join.
>>41648440Thanks, I hate it!The description is so clearly about exactly what I want, and the PDF seems to describe how to use it, but it's all buried in jargon. It's pretty clearly describing what my script does using terms I don't understand. I need to pick an appropriate kernel and hyperparameters for that kernel, but those tasks are no less difficult than picking the initial guesses for curve_fit. It's even describing in the paper how knowing more about the function's expected properties (which I do) helps choose hyperparameters (unless you hate math).scikit-learn's GaussianProcessRegressor does have much more approachable documentation and examples, but I'm seeing a lot of hints that the defaults will not work with my unprocessed data points, which seems to be confirmed in the results of hitting it with a hammer: https://pastebin.com/jpYpFCAzThankfully, the script is working, for now, without it.
>>41649186I'm hoping for less. this year had much dead weight.
>>41649337Don't be a snide bitch, call out who you have an issue with.
>>41649337It's not gonna happen anytime soon, I imagine.
>>41646183Anything written by MythrilMoth.>>41646870And same exact premise with the same exact characters.>>41648105I think he's talking out his ass. I've never heard of a shortfic penalty and sub 8k oneshots are featured all the time. Knighty never talks about the feature algorithm to prevent people from rigging it, so unless there's been some kind of Discord leak, it's all speculation. The only confirmed factors are those listed in the FAQ.https://www.fimfiction.net/bookshelf/1/featured?q=+words%3A%3C8000&order=date_addedFor reference, 47.8% of featured fics have been under 8k, so if Knighty has a penalty in place, he's done a bad job of implementing it.>>41648170>I don't think it completely ignores themThe "proportion of likes to dislikes" is one of the factors in the algorithm, but does seem to be less weighted than it really should be.>>41648789And pushed out an Estee fic, no less. Glad we made it over the finish line.>>41649163>Next year? I vote for finally doing the anthology idea. Pick a theme and genre tags and go at it.
>>41649450>I vote for finally doing the anthology idea. Pick a theme and genre tags and go at it.Seconding.
>>41649330Add normalize_y=True to your GaussianProcessRegressor and everything will get much better.You will probably get a minor additional improvement by switching to a Matern kernel:kernel = Matern(length_scale=1.0, length_scale_bounds=(1e-3, 1e8))The Matern kernel is usually more robust than the RBF kernel. It's very hard to fit the Matern kernel's nu hyperparameter, but the default of 1.5 is usually pretty good.
>>41649352Everyone who's not me.
>>41649469Hey, that does help!Thanks.
>>41648635finally
>>41648498>even though he focusses on Starlight Glimmer too much, which is to say at all.
>>41649450I think the 'penalty' may actually be the result of mistaking cause and effect. Sub 8k fix probably are featured for less time (that's what he's saying anyway, you seem to have misread that part), but it may simply be because people just read them for less time. Either way you're dumb and illiterate.
>>41648498Silence is violence, don'cha know.
I think I'm going to finish DoWaS but not read Final Solution. Is this unusual?
>>41650156>Is this unusual?It's what 60% of people do.
>>41650339Took me a minute. Fics about Cadance playing matchmaker for Sun and Moon?
>>41650396That magic baby?
I don't put funny footnotes in my fics because then everyone would know I'm a terry pratchett fan.
Resident EaWfag here, congratulations to the Exquisite Corpse not only being finished but published! I'm looking forward to reading it.
Everyone uses whence wrong. Adding a from is redundant.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/568063/5/little-nightmare/chapter-5-muffin-theoryHere's another chapter. Hope you like Shining Armor.
>>41650755only when he gets cucked.
>>41650755I like shining armor when he's a girl. Like that one fic where he turns into a girl, gets knocked up, and likes it so much he decided to stay that way.
>>41650841Link?
>>41650862Fecundity is the name. Not finished and probably not up your alley unless you like hyperpreg
>>41650841>turns into a girl>stays as a girlTranny nonsense.
>>41650903Your genderfluid desires are great and valid, honey.
>>41650903Yeah but he's an actual girl. With a working womb.
>>41650921>>41650927Tranny nonsense. Simple as.
>>41650935I agree with the applegay, this shit is tranny nonsense
>>41650927Is it still gay for the other guy? For sure not if he doesn't know, but if he does then it's not so clear.
>>41650944Fellas, is it gay to fuck a mare with a womb?
>>41650944His wife temporarily turns into a dude to knock him up, then turns back. Cadence has a pregnancy fetish.
>>41650953>mare = stallion that got turned into a girl> totally not a troon fetishnigger go jack yourself with a cactus. you are dumb
>>41650961Why so wacist?
>>41650961In a world where there's literal magic, I don't think it's so clear. Being a stallion who wants to become a mare is obviously trans. Actively seeking out stallions who are magically transformed into mares is a fetish. But what if you're a stallion, and one night you meet a hot mare, take her home and fuck her, and then afterwards, she says, "By the way, I used to be a stallion, but I got magically turned into a mare"? Until that moment you had no clue, and for all you know, maybe she's lying and was always a mare. I don't think that makes you retroactively gay or gives you a retroactive fetish.
>>41650961>mare = filly that got biologically turned into an adult>totally not disguised pedo fetish
>>41650961But isn't the point that trannies are just ugly guys with mutilated genitalia? If someone used straight up magic to become a good looking actual girl is that an issue now too?
>>41650776Well he's not gonna get cucked here. I'd say sorry but cuckolding is the brainless man's fetish.
>>41651005It's almost like the supposed problem is just an excuse to hide the real one.
>>41650755Everyone in your fic is being way too fucking reasonable.
>>41650991This is a trap and you fell for the trap,there's no problem in falling for a trap the problem is enjoying it.>>41650994>corpse = mare that got biologivally turned into non living matter>fucking a mare is necro fetishYou really want to use normal biological things to justify your gay behavior? did your mom dropped you as a baby?
>>41650991It's definitely not retroactively gay.It's more questionable if it's something you learn after already knowing her for some time and seeing her as a mare. Let's say you ask her out and she admits that she used to be a stallion before getting magically tf'd. Is it gay if you go through with it?
>>41651038How would it be gay? You're fucking an actual vagina.
>>41650961>noooo>you can't fuck this biological mare because she's actually a male on the inside>it doesn't matter that her body is female, her spirit is male!!!Anti-trannies and trannies are cut from the same brainworms
>>41651049You know she used to be male and can't tell if she's not just a gay stallion mentally.
>>41650944>>41650991Not pony, but I remember falling down this exact rabbit hole in the past. I don't think it's gay.
>>41651062A biological female who's attracted to biological males is straight. If she used to be a gay stallion but magically becomes a biological mare and is still attracted to stallions, I think she turns straight.
>>41650944It just means you aren't super straight ^:)
>>41651069It still gay, the person inside is a gay man.
>>41651036>>corpse = mare that got biologivally turned into non living matter>>fucking a mare is necro fetishYou literally did it backwards you cretin.
>>41651089A gay man doesn't have two X chromosomes and an actual vagina.
>>41651146And a womb and is pregnant, don't forget the original point here.
>>41651159You seem to be very scared of something in particular.
>>41651167Spiders.
I've never understood the "barefoot and in the kitchen" thing. I understand "in the kitchen", but why "barefoot"? Is it a literary reference?
>>41651250They're horses, they're all barefoot.
>>41651250I'm always barefoot in the house anyway
>>41651027What if Cadence is the one who gets cucked?
lol
>>41651250https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barefoot_and_pregnant
>>41651284shining pounding cricri cheeks is canon
>>41651284She's not getting cucked either.
>>41651289i don't understand
>>41651305You should watch Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas (not actually directed by Tim Burton).
>>41651289What's this, what's this, they're writing shit and no one cares
>>41651289Please understand. His eight pre-readers were not available.
Aaaand Loose Pages is out of the sinbin. Still about in the sandbox though.
>>41651333That was fast.
>>41651346It wasn't getting much engagement.
>>41651351Fair.
>>41651333It was already out hours ago when I looked. I'm assuming it also got back in, which incidentally is relevant to a discussion we had earlier.
>an old story of mine is in the M-filtered Popular stories section for some reasonHuh, nice.>>41651346I think most of us probably expected this, regardless of quality, if you dump 34k words in one go, it will filter out the majority of readers.I think it was regardless a nice success. I like the way Zaid put it, it went off tracks and landed on another set of tracks. It was nice seeing everyone's individual flavor mix and blend over the chapters.
>>41651370>It was nice seeing everyone's individual flavor mix and blendYou would say that you fruitcake.
>>41651370One of Sarge's stories is there too. I suppose the collab had people checking out some pages.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPWxo6Nb_koFics for this feel?
I find that reading 20 A4 pages of non-fiction and making notes on it tests my endurance unless it's already on a topic I am an expert in. Is this normal?
>>41651421Sarge's fic has been there for at least two days, actually.
>>41651434Mine just recently left.
>>41651433Probably. I foolishly agreed to proofread someone's dissertation over the weekend ("Hey, anon, you know how to do that whole 'writing' thing, right?") and it's much more difficult to focus on it than I thought it'd be.
>character is written entirely OOC>but the result is legitimately funny and decently written
>>41651582Let me guess: Applejack?
>>41651590Not even a pony, actually.
>>41651595Let me guess: Ayypplejack?
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/568063/6/little-nightmare/chapter-6-nyx-the-noticer6 down, 4 to go.
>>41651983This is just a cool dress and not some strange reference to the War of the Roses, I hope?
>>41651983And many a tear be shed,Because we know,They'll cease to grow,In fact, they'll soon be dead,
>>41651992Just a cool dress, according to the artist.
>>41651992What's wrong with the War of the Roses?
>>41652046I'm sceptical of any English war led by Yugi Moto.
>>41651582But are they in character within the context of the fic itself.
Does anyone consider FiW semicanon?cause in all honesty, i kinda prefer the direction that was going in over how fim wenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nghGB8HgIpI
>>41652213I love FiW, I rewatch it somewhat frequently, and I have sworn one day I'll write a fic set in its setting. That said, people who treat abridged series as substitutes to the source material need to be shot.
>>41652280Same actually. Was watching it earlier when it occurred to me I'd never noticed any fics based off if it. which is odd, since pretty much everything from the earlyish fandom had bucketloads of bandwagons jumping all over it>abridged seriesWhich FiW is clearly not.Abridged is supposed to be just a pared down speedrun of the original material. FiW is off the rails AU. It just seems to feel more official since it was basically just an edit of the original show
>>41652455There are more than a few sweetie bot fics, the thread was discussing one a while ago that inexplicably has way too many views for what it is.
>>41652464Ah, yes.Good ol' Thunder Struck.https://www.fimfiction.net/story/127111/thunder-struck
>>41652455I can tell the name "LittleKuriboh" means nothing to you.
>>41652543>"LittleKuriboh" means nothing to you.correct. never heard of it.seeing as the newest story is #568074, its safe to say I'm probably familiar with a whopping 2% of the published shit on the site. and ive never bothered actually searching for fiw fics either.i just figured that as big as fiw was in the old fandom, its surprising that there wasnt one big thing that would immediately come to mind
>>41651054The form is changed but the substance remains static. You cannot alter your past.
>>41652656It's like the opposite of transubstantiation.
I hope all the tranny talk doesn't distract you from writing, Anon.We're all gonna make it.
>>41652644Imagine being this new to the internet.
>>41652455>Abridged is supposed to be just a pared down speedrun of the original materialThis might be true by the litrral definiton of the words, but it has never meant this. Abridged series of shows and anime being a comical redubbing has been the case since before youtube
>>41652656Exactly. You cannot alter the fact that mares were once fillies, therefore sex with a mare is pedophilia.
>>41651284That's called cuckqueaning, and it's based and canon.
White ponies with read eyes and a slower gate in>/FSBC/Sorry for being late. I've been stupid busy the last couple months, and I'm only making it worse for myself since I can't help but start more stuff. I'll fix it. Unfortunately, it's for the same reason that I only read about half of the designated chapters for now. I'll catch up before next week for sure, because I do like this fic quite a lot thus far.So, let's get one thing out of the way first: this is an Unwhole Hole story. That means you'll have to deal with homonyms being swapped in at random, and that some sentences will simply be bad. Some normal typos and wrong words were used, too. It can't be helped. Unless, I suppose, Pen Stroke lends some of his eight proofreaders to this [much better] story, because sweet Luna does this fic need some of those.And yet, it's not stopping me from enjoying it at all. The writing style is like anti-RT: I do actually believe that this is written pretty well aside from the errors. It flows really nicely when you're not stopped by shit like "read eyes", and in general the pacing has felt appropriate. It feels fresh, and the descriptions of the stuff Twilight runs into are genuinely good. I have read Hand of Doom, and while the lack of that story's Caballeron&Do is regrettable, the lore/backstory here feels so much more nicely woven into the fic. Unlike HoD, we're learning about things directly relevant for the story, and the questions being answered are ones that tell us more about what happened to the ponies, particularly the characters we know from the show. This is great!Speaking of great, Desu I'm just very interested in the mystery in this fic. It's a very nice blend of distant sci-fi and fantasy, and by that I mean it feels very fantastical. The emphasis on the alicorns' immortality is a nice theme. I'm running out of space, so I'll only add that while I liked the Silken Dream a bunch. She's cute, and I hope she becomes more important later; she had very little to say or do in the first half of this week's chapters. "Invertebrates!" Maybe it's because of the author's strong anti-robot specieism that was also prominently featured in Hand of Doom. Or maybe it's just Twi being a racist—you can excuse any OOC behavior with "character suffered severe but temporary brain damage at the start of the fic".Also, while UH was never reference-shy, here he transcended time and causality to make The One Reference to Rule Them All. Nothing beats copying the plot of a story that would only be written five years later. Jokes aside, it's amazing how close to Elden Ring that alicorn situation is, with one goddess whose soul and mind died, leaving an immortal body sprouting new 'life' (Cadance/Godwyn), and another goddess whose body is effectively dead but who helps as much as she can (Luna/Ranni). And sure, give them golden blood as well while we're at it! Were they both ripping off the same source?Next week, we're reading up to Chapter 30: Evacuation.
>>41653282Ponies, even millenia-old ones, display significant neotenous traits such as big, expressive eyes, a healthy bit of pudge and smooth, unblemished skin. By being attracted to them, you are inextricably attracted to youth.
>>41653550You forgot your flag.
>>41653550Anon, I've jerked off to toddlercon. I don't need an explanation.
>>41653562...Was it at least pony?
>>41653576He said toddlercon not foalcon.Personally I prefer Chocon.
>>41653592>what are baby ponies
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/568063/7/little-nightmare/chapter-7-everyoneAnother chapter. Not sure if I should aim to finish this up today or tomorrow. Feels like two chapters a day is a good pace.
>>41653576Anthro Flurry Heart.
>>41653599Question is, does anyone care enough to link every chapter here?
>>41653606It's called shilling.
>>41653606I shill em as I put em up.
>>41653605toddler rape is one thing, but b&thro is crossing a line.
>>41653611Didn't you say it was finished? Why not put it all up at once?
>>41653622Because then he'd miss out on all the shilling.
>>41653622Homestuck taught me to never blow your load all at once when you can blow it a little bit at a time.
>>41653622He went straight from the top 7 featured spots to the bottom 3. That's why. He's engagementmaxxing and it's working.
>>41653635>Homestuck taught me
>>41653646I even analyzed traffic over the last couple of weeks to figure out what the best posting times are.
>>41653599Unlike fimfic, this thread has largely static userbase on any given day. Not like shilling here is bad, but I don't think you're getting any extra traffic from linking chapters 2-9 here. Do as you'd like, but posting when the first and last chapters are published feels like the best approach without spamming this place. Unless you have weeks-long gaps between chapters, then posting with each update seems warranted.>>41653655That's a lot of effort to get a few extra clicks desu,
>>41653653It's the only lesson you should take away from that garbage heap of disappointment: People like regularly updating drip feed stuff.Also I'm not sure if readers would be willing to engage with 50k words all at once.
>>41653660>That's a lot of effort to get a few extra clicks desu,Sure but it's also good for future reference and being able to help anyone who wants to know the same kind of thing. Plus it means the thread is talking about this and not talking about fucking babies, which is another positive.
>both book clubs die on subsequent weeks>the brand new HiE club is thrivingPoetry desu
>>41653550Being attracted to the ponies' youthfulness doesn't make you a pedo, not when ponies do not act like toddlers. There's quite a bit of range from preferring the equivalent of the bright and energetic 16-21 age group and a literal fillyfucking. Saying otherwise is foalcon propaganda.
>>41653684The people know what they want.
>>41653684It was pretty lively in the last few weeks, it's just that it has been a long time since the Sunday club has had traffic during the allotted time. For some people just post late. Maybe they're all west coast burgers.
>>41653664They weren't willing to engage with the corpse all at once, but maybe that's just because we suck.
>>41653700I mean it got on the sinbin, that's something.
>>41653688>not when ponies do not act like toddlersAnon, half the appeal of loli is seeing the little girls act in unreasonably mature ways.
>>41653731Good to know, but that's not the part that most people find objectionable.
>>41653747Scootaloo ain't for raping.
>>41653703As of right now, it has 123 views. All of TSG's other fics have at least double that. In fact, nearly every fic that any one of us has ever published has double that (only two fics don't, both by Spook, and even those are both over 200). The corpse will still go up some more, of course, but slowly. Sinbin or not, it flopped. 'Twas fun, though. I'd still do it again.
>>41653756Probably would have benefitted from staggering out the release then.
>>41653748It's a reference to an old classic, anon. A joke. An edgy one, sure, but come on, you can't be complaining about that here of all places.
>>41653748Just because she's third rate meat that doesn't exclude her from the menu.
>>41653684>HiE clubAs a reminder, we'll be discussing these two on Thursday:https://www.fimfiction.net/story/243795/arcadiahttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/162395/pirate-hats-and-whatnotHopefully I'll remember my flag this time.
>>41653780Nice job.
>>41653774Chicken is one of the most popular meats in the world.
>>41653797And HiE is the most popular kind of horsewords. Neither are very good.
>>41653804You shut your mouth. Chicken is amazing if you do it right.
>>41653812I made a brown sugar glazed chicken with a garlic sauce that was really good.
>>41653804Tell him that.
>>41653804Wrong.
>>41653822>using compact modethis cap was made by a sociopath.
>>41653833Anon, he's into foalcon. That he'd have other terrible preferences was a given.
>>41653837You don't need to be into something to expose someone else for being into it despite campaigning against it.
>>41653502>only read halfsounds like you haven't even gotten to what I assume is the actual plot yet so get ready for a bunch of week 1 spoilers/revealsThis fic up until the last chapters we read felt like Lost Cities + Cypress Station. The fic does a great job exploring strange environments both natural and unnatural. The two types of ships, the wind blasted forests, the mega city graveyard, the underground labs, it's all a fun little adventure. Unfortunately it's plagued by every sort of typo that won't create a red underline (although it got 'better' about 5 chapters in). Plenty of wrong homonyms and plenty of obvious typos that inadvertently spelled another real word and thus didn't get a red underline and thus were never looked at again. Even so, I really like the fic so far.We finished on a good spot and I'm curious what Twilight's memories are going to show us. Hopefully it explains why Twilight is seemingly repressing all memories of the show's time period. I was having trouble believing she would forget all of it until we learned it was probably intentional in a way. I'm also looking forward to watching these 'perfect clones' teach Twilight about friendship, and I imagine that might ultimately be the real reason she is back on the planet and that harmony did have something to do with it. Although at the same time I doubt it considering everything else we learn about the timeline. I like the reveal that Twilight is speaking some sort of binaric language and also really like when she reverts back to normal 'english' and gets pissed at herself. Luna is pretty kino here, although it's a shame she's kinda dead. Even if that ironically makes her participate in the story far more than Celestia. Silken Dream is based as fuck and far less of a robot than I expected she was going to be. She even talks about when she was a foal(?????) unless I'm mistaken, it's when she brings up space hamsters. Anyway, definitely looking forward to more>Their eyes, being large enough to see backwards over their shoulders, swiveled toward the rear doorOh yeah, I like the funny new ponies and the cover art>but decided that getting into a urination contest with a goddess was hardly appropriate.>Visualizing nearby space with equations>Cult of Twilight: Trust nobody>Twilight freaking out because of a bugEven though this is giga future type 4-5 civilization Twilight we get glimpses at the og Twilight and it's kino, the bugs and suddenly remembering her love for books were great>She took a deep breath and stepped past them. "No," she said. "We coninued."Kek, simply epig>apple trees survived the apocalypse>crystal map begging twilight to go on a quest>Silken looked perplexed but then smiled broadly. She lifted her tiny pointed hooves and tapped them together. "Yay," she said. "I'm so proud."I love Silken, she is keeping the story pony and doing a good job at it. Her scenes are a great diffusion of tension and contrast to Twi
>>41653599Still can't believe there are nyxfags these days.
>>41653849Correct me if I'm wrong about it, but this looks like discord's version of a private chat. No way you link foalcon to someone unless you're into it yourself. Except if maybe he was playing the longest con and tried to bait DB into admitting that he likes foalcon, but that sounds very improbable.
>>41653895>what is a sting operation
Quit fucking kids
>>41653904>5:36 AMWait, so this was said during the drama?I always assumed it's an old conversation someone dug up when it became very relevant. There's no chance DB would ask for more just as he was enacting his crusade.>>41653909Constantly whining makes you more annoying than them, and probably makes them post more of it in the first place.
>>41653914the whining only makes me harder~
>>41653878>"But just look at them! They're so little and adorable!">"Although Rarity's more of a fan of being probed than I am.">been on the planet for ten weeksPretty sure it was 8 months>funny little blue pikmin running around screaming>“I don’t have any friends,” said Twilight. “Well, you do now."kino>>41653502>So, let's get one thing out of the way first: this is an Unwhole Hole storyso unfortunate that this is how it is. the early chapters were especially bad>Pen Stroke lends some of his eight proofreaders to this [much better] storykek>And yet, it's not stopping me from enjoying it at all. The writing style is like anti-RT: I do actually believe that this is written pretty well aside from the errorsI'd agree. I have no trouble simply reading what was intended and not what was actually typed, but I'm surprised your the same way about it. >Or maybe it's just Twi being a racist—you can excuse any OOC behavior with "character suffered severe but temporary brain damage at the start of the fic".I don't think that's it. I think it has to do more with her hitting the stage of immortal where she can "get busy for a few hundred years". It's probably equivalent to us and alexa/siri, people aren't' going to take what they say seriously, especially if one was forced on you as you were departing on a long ass trip or something. instead of 'brain damage at the start of the fic' it's more like 'experienced 485,000 years of being a recluse goddess of knowledge before the start of the fic'>Jokes aside, it's amazing how close to Elden Ring that alicorn situation isbravo kojima>>41653684frankly disgusting>>41653695this, going to bed at 2am doesn't work well with clubbing at 7am, so unless I'm afraid of missing the whole discussion I'll just get up when I get up. Glad I did too since no one else is here yet and Rarity only read half lmao
>>41653502I am not high on this fic, and I'm not sure how much longer I'm going to read it.For me, probably the best part was the surface trek through the series of hazards. The atmosphere reminded me a lot of the TS mission Dogma Day Afternoon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2QtlrNfnWU and the way it depicts a red zone. Unfortunately, there are still so many things holding it down. It's such an insult to the Sci Fi tag with all the "fungal" life forms wiggling around in -100 degree temperatures and the "invertebrate" snakes. He's just throwing cool words around without a care if they fit any overarching worldbuilding, much less narrative.I think you're squinting too hard to see past the "all though's" that you're missing the geometric prisms that are irregularly shaped, the time having no relevance so she hurries because she doesn't want to waste her time, and the 8-month-8-week blackout nonsense. It even goes pretty deep into the contradictions, laying down paragraphs about how the mile wide skyscrapers were pony masterworks, only to then say that no ponies were even involved in their construction, they were designed by computers and built by robots.Very often, I get the feeling of manipulation by this fic, it shows up in these sorts of contradictions. The author tries to make you feel bad for Silken Dream by tying her to this insanely stupid Twilight and saying that "oh, she's a robot, she lacks any feelings or executive function and can only be told to do things." Then he tells you to feel bad for the M6 because "she *feels bad* for them", and she executively decides that they're a higher priority than Twilight's failed mission because she's not a robot.Anyway, I disagree that the story flows well. It has good pacing, yes, but every plot advancement is made by "Twilight" being unbelievably stupid. To start with, sure, she can have her teleport failure. But later, the plot is only advanced by her falling into a hole for no reason, and then she plugs her suit into a data port, frying her nervous system, "just because."
>>41653878I was close to dropping it right before the M6 get introduced because it was so low on pony. This "Twilight" doesn't read like any version of Twilight in the show, and she'd just been walking though post-apocalyptic tunnels, injuring herself.Silken Dream is absolutely keeping the story pony, but not in a way I like. Most of what she does is contrast Twilight by being the reasonable, thoughtful one, but it's basically the same as any Spike fic in all of the opportunity given to her to do this is manufactured from substance taken away from Twilight's character. I would've enjoyed it a lot more if both Twilight and Silken Dream were ponies, and it sucks that Twilight isn't.I also think that most of the rest of the story is going to be about the M5 teaching Twilight about friendship again. That's most of why I'm not sure I'm going to keep reading it, I'd rather read a fic where Twilight was a pony the whole time.And also remembers that she can teleport away from tentacle monsters, the spell is more than just for passing impassable cracks.The space ponies are pony-like, at least the Royal Navy ones. I liked the way they acted towards each other, it was Star Trek-y. The idea of these different cults existing side by side after a Last War is pretty cool, the idea that they don't have weapons anymore, etc. It would have been a neat reflection of the three tribes and the HWE story, but it's all corrupted by the way I'm pretty sure the author never thought of it like that. Because it's immediately thrown out with holy wars about Twilight's birthday, because apparently the fic needed more edge in that paragraph.
>>41653833>>41653895>>41653914If you scroll past the 'gotem' posts, you can read more picking it apart in the thread where it was made:https://desuarchive.org/mlp/search/image/efiRINU9Kvzs0AUTWpSwmw/
>>41653966>the time having no relevance so she hurries because she doesn't want to waste her timeTime is an issue though, she just expects the mission to possibly take years. Ponies that are supposed to be immortal are still constantly dying and there's only like 200,000 left. Luna specifically talks about how every night there's less dreams than before or something.>and the 8-month-8-week blackout nonsensethis is definitely just a shitty mistake>contradictions, laying down paragraphs about how the mile wide skyscrapers were pony masterworks, only to then say that no ponies were even involved in their construction, they were designed by computers and built by robots.I'm pretty sure that was like the point of the scene>and then she plugs her suit into a data port, frying her nervous system, "just because."kek yeah, putting a random USB you found on the ground into your brain port sure is something>>41653987I'd guess you're through the worst part of the fic then since Twilight will probably only start acting more pony from here on out. Also yes she does have a mother of invention mindset and for someone as godly and experienced as she is her actions don't really reflect that at all, only her extremely jaded mindset tries to.>no weapons>Twilight's own cult develops a super weapon so powerful it can kill pure alicorns just to try to shoot it at heryeah a bit weird
>>41654035That specific line was in the dream. She's in a dream, and it says time has no meaning because she's in a dream. Then, she immediately starts hurrying because she doesn't want to waste her time.It is also general issue with the fic, though. Several of her early mistakes relate to her rushing B because OMG the civilization is collapsing, there's no time for caution. And then later, it costs her months or weeks, and she's fine with the mission taking years or decades as she meditates to regrow her brain because she absentmindedly fell into a hole and can't fly out.But, no, that scene had two points, they were just contradictory. The first point was to get you to feel some melancholy over how the ponies of millennia past were artisans, dedicating their life to the craft of spectacular feats of engineering. Then, the second point was to get you to feel some kind of ennui over the unappreciated effort that went into making the skyscrapers, because the ponies were so far removed from their construction, they barely had awareness of the computers and robots building the foundation of their world. The author then didn't take the time to check if these two ideas were compatible in their scene and drop one if it didn't fit, much less separate them out into scenes with a different substrate.
>>41653878>it's all a fun little adventureThe setting is kind of very different, but it's a lot like HoD.>Unfortunately it's plagued by every sort of typo that won't create a red underlineIt's rough, yeah. My leading theory at the moment is that the author is dyslexic because I don't see how you'd make some of those errors otherwise. They're rarely (not never) typos, it's stuff like consistently spelling "gait" as "gate" every time that leads me to that conclusion.>Even so, I really like the fic so far.I only got to the halfway point so I shouldn't make any serious judgement, but yeah. The best way to put it would be that I like it much more than it is good, and it's not even bad.>it's a shame she's kinda deadDidn't stop Ranni from being the best character in her game; I doubt it'll stop Luna here.>we get glimpses at the og Twilight and it's kinoThat's one thing UH is really good at. He takes story premises and universes that don't seem very 'pony' and then writes at least some of the characters (usually the ponies, duh) in a way that steers the story right back into that pony goodness. He gets a little far with it, but 9/10 times it's great and I respect it a lot. In this fic it's mainly Silken Dreams so far, really contrasting how Twilight changed over time, but if it's anything like HoD I bet we'll see much more of it later.>I love Silken, she is keeping the story pony andOh yeah what I just said, kek.>>41653935>>“Well, you do now.">kinoI didn't get there but yep, that's the UH writing.>so unfortunate that this is how it isReminder that you dropped the Kino of Doom because of this and the cute possessive bug marefriend larping as a spider. Shame on you.>I'm surprised your the same way about it.What can I say, the fic is both fun and pony; I can't dislike that. And Hand partially inoculated me against this writing. I intentionally stopped noting down the errors because we all get it and I don't see a point in marking them all; it only makes it less fun.>I don't think that's it. I think you're right and that's probably what the fic seems to be going for (edit: definitely, given spoilers from Tuna's post later), I just found it a little funny we get Twilight acting like a non-pony right as she gets brain damage.>>41653987>it was so low on pony.>The space ponies are pony-likeUH seems to have certain themes he likes coming back to. HoD also had some very non-pony-seeming characters who got equinized over the course of the fic, and I bet we'll see the same here. HoD also had that pony worldbuilding with exclusively non-lethal weapons.>it sucks that Twilight isn't.She's been a god for half a million years; I'm sure she will become a pony again before the fic is over.>>41654035>since Twilight will probably only start acting more pony from here on out.Exactly what I think and I haven't even seen anything suggesting that, just extrapolating from the author's other fic that I read.
>>41653966>It's such an insult to the Sci Fi tagNo, it's just an extremely soft Sci-Fi, which is objectively (subjectively) the best kind—the scifi-colored fantasy. I jest, but only partially.>and saying that "oh, she's a robot, she lacks any feelings (...)"Having read HoD, I am not sure if this is true. Spoilers, of course, but they meet one character who's an uploaded personality of a mare sworn to guard the last remnants of her pony race's heritage, and literally every character treats her like a tool because "lmao she's not a real pony". Even the good guys! She receives a tiny scrap of kindness from Daring Do in the end, but I felt like it was less for her sake and more to make DD look good since she's helping "even a robot". Daring Do also hesitates a lot before saving a mecha-lich antagonist since he's not a real pony, and that antagonist spends a lot of his time on screen emphasizing how much he sacrificed (his very equinity) to complete his mission. I think UH might just have a weird ethic vendetta against non-biological people. It is a philosophic belief you can hold; I know some people like that irl. If I had to guess, we're supposed to be surprised how "real" Silken Dreams is despite her being "just" a machine.>every plot advancement is made by "Twilight" being unbelievably stupidI'll get back to this next week. If I don't forget about it, that is.>He's just throwing cool words around>I think you're squinting too hard to see past the "all though's" that you're missing [stuff]Yeah, yeah I am. Guilty as charged. Definitely. But you're being way too serious about this fic. It's not an incorrect way of approaching it and I won't tell you to not do that, but this is 100% one of the stories that gets A LOT better if you let it handwave the nitpicky details that don't directly pertain to the scene/plot away, letting it carry you where it wants to. I'm certain that it was written with that in mind and trying to take it apart too much is just asking to get burned. Sometimes it gets too hard to ignore, unfortunately, and I've had that problem with some of the HoD universe lore. Here it's also present in the form of annoying errors like the months->weeks oversight, but I try to treat it just like those "all though's": as an error that needs to be noticed, but shouldn't be nitpicked too hard. It's a little unfair to the fic (in the positive way), but I kind of like what's happening and don't mind giving it an easier time than it deserves. HoD might be the most enjoyable fic that didn't make my favorites list because ultimately I couldn't got that far.
>that deep space nine crossover with sweetie belle>okay>suddenly starts veering into weird territory where sweetie wants to fuck doctor bashir>okay?
>>41654294In what universe is fillies lusting after human men weird?
>>41654306Bashir only likes cardassians
>>41654351He was pretty into Dax from what I remember of the early seasons
>>41654393That man is fucking Garak's cloaca.
>>41653502I don't have too much to say about this fic just yet. It's got a lot of interesting ideas, but it's held back by very frequent inconsistencies, redundancies, and what feels to me like a lack of clear direction. I think the depiction of far-future pony society is very rich. The author does a good job of feeding us little bits and pieces of information while refraining from huge info dumps. The biology of the future ponies is especially unnerving and feels like a believable reflection of the path that pony society has taken i.e. adapting to life in space, ascending to "perfect" alicornhood and gaining extremely long life, but also dramatically atrophying, losing their individuality and unique abilities. The fic is full of inconsistent details, though. For all this talk about Twilight being one of three existing immortal "goddesses", she's disrespected and disobeyed almost constantly. One minute, the captain is totally deferential to her, and the next, she's overruling Twilight on the matter of bringing a robot. Hell, even the robot chooses to disobey her. Silken also ostensibly can't understand sarcasm, despite using sarcasm herself toward Twilight several times. Another example is in chapter 13 when the mane 6 say they last knew Twilight's age to be 34, and then three chapters later, Applejack says she was only coming up on 33. Even the description of the fic states that Twilight's rule has lasted for "thousands of millennia", which implies millions of years. Equestria's peak population before the Exodus was said to be in the trillions, while the peak population of space-pony civilisation thousands of years in the future is also simply "trillions"? The author certainly seems to enjoy throwing large numbers around. I'll admit the dramatic scale of the story does add some wonder, but it's hard to wrap my head around things when the descriptions of the world seem to change every 3 chapters. Maybe I just have a reading comprehension issue, I don't know. There are some good dramatic moments (the mane 6 pods, Twilight reading the journal), but the fic so far has just been too sloppy for any of it to leave much of an impact. I'm looking forward to reading about how the "real" mane 6 have already died thousands of years ago and how these clones will sacrifice themselves for Twilight while reminding her of the power of friendship or something.
>>41653502>Elden ringI didn't make specific note of it, but yeah, it's funny how many parallels there are. Immortal corpse of a god spreading curses, goddess of the moon whose body died and advises the protagonist, world order founded on lies and secrets about the origins of gods, competing cults worshipping said gods, magical and incurable disease threatening to overrun everyone, forbidden land of ice and snow and a rival race of beings, giant trees, et cetera. Maybe Miyazaki and GRRM are Unwhole Hole fans? >SilkenI'd like Silken more if the author made up his mind on whether she's supposed to be an emotionless machine or more of a sentient AI with quirks and quips. As it stands, she alternates back and forth as the story requires it. >>41653695I try but I've been sick for a month and my brain is running on half speed. >t. East coast burger>>41653878>She even talks about when she was a foal(?????)See, this is what I'm talking about when it comes to Silken. It's fine if she's more "pony" than robot, but she needs to be consistently represented. Why would a robot even have a foalhood? >>41653935>Pretty sure it was 8 monthsMore inconsistencies from Unwhole Hole. >more like 'experienced 485,000 years of being a recluse goddess of knowledge before the start of the fic'I think it's ironic how half a million years into the future, she's reverted back to S1E1 Twilight and has to make friends with the other M6 to learn friendship again.
>>41654273>one of the stories that gets A LOT better if you let it handwave the nitpicky detailsIs it, though? UH clearly wants you to be paying attention to details. There's a scene which has several subtle details that imply that ponies stayed behind after the exodus of Equestria and they evolved under radioactive duress, and then later degenerated into the armored smoozes that are seen earlier in the fic. There are lots of facts and figures thrown around, and whatever's going on with the windigoes that seem to be trying to communicate with magic circles, etc, etc, etc.But, UH could not be assed to pay attention to any of the other details that are written. If you pay attention to nearly any of the details about the history the goddesses, the changes in pony culture before and after their exodus, or even the properties of remni, you will get smacked in the face. What the story has is a lot of "yes, we need to add some worldbuilding here, good, ok" followed by "this scene needs some color added to it, let's shank the worldbuilding and let it bleed out on the page a little bit, that's better."Another thing about all this that's just as frustrating is that the original worldbuilding wasn't even bad. UH just chooses not to build on it, and go in an entirely different direction whenever it's even slightly constraining. And if he cares so little about his own fic, why should I care when reading it? As you said, I shouldn't care, it's only going to bite me. But, that's also the exact reason why I downvote a badly written fic and go read a better one.
>>41654550Meant to add:What would've been fair is if UH marked in bold those hints put in the story that later parts of the story will depend on, so you know that he'll have forgotten everything not in bold two chapters later. Or two paragraphs later, as it goes.
>>41653987>I was close to dropping it right before the M6 get introduced because it was so low on ponyI'm in your camp, broadly speaking. I wasn't going to drop the fic, but the whole underground section before the M6 was just so dull and meandering. They really breathed some life into the fic, nearly immediately at that. >space poniesThey're kind of cute, but I don't like the way the captain talks to Twilight. Not that Twilight doesn't deserve it, but that there isn't really a plausible reason for the captain to be so disrespectful of authority. The space ponies are weird in that they're pretty alien, but you can see the kernel of pony deep inside. I think that kind of believable futurism is one of the strong points of the fic in general.
>>41654599There is a good reason for the captain to be disrespectful of Twilight, besides Twilight not deserving any respect. One of the few things that is retained from canon Twilight is reflected in her cult: prioritizing correctness over politeness. Twilight herself generally doesn't reflect that, but I think it would make sense for a cult following her to reject blind obedience and deprioritize niceties. There are lots of other issues with that in the fic, of course, which mostly revolve around Twilight not being true to her own character, but that's the main reason I take no issue with the captain's manners in deific company. She acts differently in front of her crew, and I would also expect her to act differently in front of the sisters.
>>41654549>I'd like Silken more if the author made up his mind on whether she's supposed to be an emotionless machine or more of a sentient AI with quirks and quips. As it stands, she alternates back and forth as the story requires it. It's an in-universe thing. Also, not an AI.
Poetry contest winners: https://www.fimfiction.net/group/1089/poetry/thread/551227/poetry-group-contest-winners
>>41655113There are no winners in poetry, only massive losers.
>>41655168Actually, there are winners and losers and outcasts and heroes behind every mare in the news.
>>41655113Still mad I couldn't finish my on time.I'll finish it anyway and save it for the next contest.And 'grats to the spook.
>>41653225All that you love will be forgotten.
>>41653664It's 2024 and I still need to read that.My boss recently asked me what I'm going to do when I'm retired. You've just given me my answer.
>>41655363You can read all the "good" parts over a single weekend.
>>41655363Do not read it. Trust me.
>>41653822>DataByteIs that Byter, of "Crepuscular Bronies" fame?
>>41655376He definitely "crep"s around "scuul"s.
>>41653667What are the best times? I remember there's some years-old blog post people often reference that says early afternoon toward the beginning of the week is best, but I don't know if viewing patterns have changed since then.
>>41655464From what i've gathered from my data points, fridays and saturday mornings and nights have the highest count.
>>41655467When I did this before, measured by "users online," Fimfic was most active during the day. Roughly it was working hours Pacific time. (I didn't detect a measurable change on weekends, but I also didn't collect a lot of weekend data.) But that was before the new antispam measures, and I'm wondering if some of that activity was just bots. Maybe all it meant was that spammers were working 9-5 on the West Coast.
>add a chapter to my Halloween story>it probably would've been in the sin bin on Halloween, if it hadn't been for every popular writer's story keeping it out>it gets two more thumbs down during its time on the front page>see Some Leech's new gay incest story>give it a thumbs down, which knocks it off the front page>it's already back on the front pageYep, just another day on Fimfiction.
>>41655113>Spook places in another contestYou're slaying these contests, dude. This is your third one, right?
>>41655609First prize in the New Blood contest. Second prize in the May Pairings contest. Pewter medal in the Thousand Words contest. Now third prize in the poetry contest. Plus PaulAsaran loved my fic. I'm not sure where to go from here. Last time I said I was going to start snorting coke off filly prostitutes, but I'm starting to think that's not decadent enough. Maybe this is the moment when I try to write original fiction and get a stack of rejection notices that comes up to my waist.
>>41655723Clearly you now have to track down the Tunigger and battle him to death.
How do you describe a fic that you have almost no issues with and could not stop reading, but that you did not notice yourself enjoying?
>>41655773Safe.
>>41655773Just drop the fic bro, are you dumb
>>41655773It's padding to make my "Read" shelf have a bigger word count>>41655723Nice, now go for the Pulitzer next!
>tfw finally surpassed 100,000 words
>>41656023How many of those are good?
>>41656023
>>41655356Who gives a shit? You're still a dumbass.
>>41653622You want to maximize readership. By spacing chapter posting out, you give new readers more of a chance of finding your fic, since fic updates land on the homepage when they release. Once you build up enough readers, you make the bottom three slots of the featured box and have even more shots at new readers.>>41653684The schizo club needs to get back to its namesake and stop reading normie fics. That's what killed it off.>>41654294How awkwardly is it shoved into S3? Is the author trying to weave shit like sideburnless Riker and the race riots around it or is it one of those "it takes place conveniently between two episodes and they never talk about it again" crossovers?>>41655363>I still need to read thatFrom what I've heard, only if you like a good train wreck. Hussie's like the anti-Faust, a glimpse into a world where the original creator crashes and burns their enormously successful creation to the point of total irrelevance.>>41655773>could not stop reading>did not notice yourself enjoyingMy brain isn't wired for those two to go together. If I'm not enjoying the story, I'm not wasting my time with it.
>>41656101>The schizo club needs to get back to its namesake and stop reading normie fics.We're doing that next.
>>41656101>That's what killed it offI thought it was the transitioning?
>>41655773Book club material.
What is considered a successful story? In terms of likes/views?
>>41655773Gang shit that just happened to me with The Best of All Possible Worlds. Dropped it and am gonna read good trooper Gilda, but I'm also reading overlord fanfiction and I'm nearing finals so yeah. Btw I'm skirts fan bgp's #1 fan
>>41656518In the modern scene I would say >5k views and 300 upvotes, if you need an arbitrary benchmark.
>>41656518An actual success is maybe a 100 likes? 150? And ideally a views->likes ratio of over 10%.But it's also a little irrelevant by now. We've just had a guy do literally everything to min-max his story's popularity, shilling everywhere and constantly, too, and he's at about a 100 likes despite living in the featured box for like four days plus. Also, sometimes for no discernible reason a fic gets like twice that number.And if you write HiE then you can expect about twice those numbers so adjust accordingly.
>>41656523>skirts fan>overlord fanfiction That tracks.
>>41656518Depends on how many followers you have. >>41656525 is vastly overestimating Fimfiction's present readership. >>41656528 is more realistic. But when I look right now, what's topping the feature box is Rune Soldier Dan's "The Her That is Me"; it's a one-shot with 771 views and 113 upvotes, and it was released less than two days ago. How is that possible? Well, he has 1,146 followers, that's how.
>>41656528>shilling your own storySomething I could never do. Even if I'm a whore for feedback and attention with my stories. I feel too embarrassed to every pimp my writing.
>>41656540>41656525(Me) is vastly overestimating Fimfiction's present readershipNo. He asked for successful, not average. Considering there's a story from last year sitting at over 2k votes, I maintain my point.
>>41656528That guy's also brand new, writers with more followers get more upvotes.
>>41656585Yeah, that's the norm for new writers. One of the bigger things that's changed in the 202X fimfic is that people don't really give follows these days. You might grab around 10 new followers with a story if it's relatively well-received, but getting to "more followers" requires already having made it big in the past.That anon could write five more 50k word fics and I'd bet he'd still have <100 followers.
>>41656585I'm happy with my relative success. I'm just surprised "rainbow dash is a rainbow baby" got as much attention as it did.
Why do people do this?
>>41656658The fun thing about the way tags aren't folders is that you can put more than one to a story.Bookshelves, groups, and folders are all tags. Tags are great for searching. Not the best, but pretty excellent. I bet that person isn't going to lose a story they've read to the fog of time.
>>41656658Because they read it, finished it, liked then, and loved it.
>>41656671Just make the bookshelves unlisted. Other than the first one, but you really don't need to ping an author with "reading" and "finished".
The anons in this thread that warned me about Emacs were right. The journey is always like this>Fuck me, the way this works is stupid, let's change it.>There's a built-in package that already does it.>Enable it.>It's cool.>Discover that there are several ways to customise it or that there are several other built-in packages for it.>Play around, get used to them.>They're good, but not perfect.>Discover that there is a whole fucking ecosystem of third-party packages that do it even better.What you get in the end is always amazing, but it burns a lot of time.
>>41656625>people don't really give follows these daysThen explain to me how Runicfaggot has more than a thousand. He registered in 2022. Sure-sure, he's an AiEfag, which helps, but still.I think it's just about being "out there". He published more than a hundred stories in two years. He was constantly on the frontpage, basically. If you're not visible, people won't give you a follow, since they won't even know you exist.
>>41656731I mean if you're following someone it's because you want to see updates to their stories right? If you're not that active in terms of publishing stories or having ongoing stories, not many people are going to follow you.
>>41656731He's the biggest AiE writer, one who spearheaded the AiE-zation of fimfic. This is like asking a 1000-follower popular writers why they don't have 10k like Pen Stroke.>hundred storiesFunnily enough, that tracks with the rough "up to 10 per fic" figure, too. Also, yeah, AiE helps more than you think because not only is it the most popular category, it's also the most dynamically growing one. Most of AiEfags started reading AiE recently and still have the energy to go look for more writers to follow, whereas many non-AiE readers typically already have a group of authors they follow and rarely, if ever, go looking for new ones. You can see them in the comments under any classic horsewords author publishing a new fic—the "I don't read fics anymore, but for you and my other favorite writers...".So yes, you can get a bunch of followers, it just takes playing into the site's demographics and is still much more difficult than it used to be. There's just way less momentum on fimfic.
What are some good hyperboric fics
>>41656775RaF
>>41656786>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/31/stop-hiring-useless-white-male-pilots-raf-told/mmm no very surface-dwelling behavior, highly unhyperboric
>>41656789Not that one, dummy.
>>41656795It's the only one I know...
>>41656814Oh no, you're at risk of having to not be cannibalistic anymore...
>>41656825NTA, cannibalism is based and would be a justified step forward in society.
>>41656854>t. a prion
>>41656857This is such a dumb fucking take. Prions don't magically manifest upon human meat consumption like some kind of divine punishment. Just don't be an idiot. Make sure the meat is safely harvested the way other meats are.
>>41656877
>>41656775https://www.fimfiction.net/story/497670/fluttershy-digs-deep
>>41656877I was pro-cannibalism before I met some of this thread's inhabitants IRL. Y'all niggas nasty.
I hope you're not slacking on your writing, Anons.
>>41656924Being pent up for so long, I shudder to think what'll happen if I try to write anything remotely sexual.
>>41656935Write something overtly sexual and get it out of the way.
>>41656537This post genuinely made me laugh. Do you believe that my little pony fanfiction deserves more respect than some mediocre Isekai anime? They're both crack. I like both.>>41656775>>41656537This post genuinely made me laugh. Do you believe that my little pony fanfiction deserves more respect than some mediocre Isekai anime's? They're both crack. I like both.>>41656775NiG
>>41656996>Do you believe that my little pony fanfiction deserves more respect than some mediocre Isekai anime? They're both crack. I like both.No. I was just pointing out the consistency of the taste for slop.
>>41656996Yes. Comparing FiM to something mediocre is a bigger tell of a lack of taste than liking that other thing in the first place.
>>41656899eating cock at galacon isn't exactly cannibalism
>>41656935Would you like us to help you cum?
They're at it again!
>>41657059ids ogey 2be gae, nonni-
>>41657059Im here to protect you brothar
>>41657088>two best bros versus a world of faggotryFics for this feel?
>>41656541As much as I'm doing this for the joy of creation, I also want as many people to see it as possible.
>>41657163FNaF crossover on the club when?
>>41657171Whenever you feel like it, I've got a twipie fic to do next.
>>41657188Are you Zaid? Loved reading K'awka Supay for fsbcalso>these new captchasWhat the fuck is this? When will the development of increasingly obtuse anti-bot measures end? This is like the so-called "arms race" between antibiotic manufacturers and bacteria.
>>41657188>I've got a twipie fic to do next.Based. What will it be about?
>>41657171HIE club tiem https://www.fimfiction.net/story/212100/one-night-at-anons>>41657224buy passu goyims
>>41657225Luna is Twilight's mom and they bond over being clownfuckers.
>>41657224>What the fuck is this?Probably because their previous "improvement" with the vertical lines didn't hinder the auto-captcha tools at all.
>>41656786what is this actually
>>41657239He meant Rise and Fall of Dark Lord Sassaflash, which was a good recommendation; it's an excellent fic.
>>41657224>What the fuck is this? When will the development of increasingly obtuse anti-bot measures end?Honestly? The reason for this is that the captchas are relatively simple to pass through a neural network to train a solver.You know what's harder to train a solver for? Google recaptcha (and imitators, like hcaptcha). Can't easily train when the captcha itself doesn't know what the edges of the traffic light are and whether corners count, can't easily bot when the tiles take 5 seconds to fade away and at least one tile fades away 3-4 times.I for one and more than happy to have them change up the text now and again if that's what it takes to keep up a normal, text-based captcha in this day and age.
>>41657224>What the fuck is this?That's what I was talking about in >>41641656However, I quickly discovered they're actually easier to solve than the previous iteration.
>>41657231So which clown did Luna fuck?
>>41657265Discord.
>>41657280What's your obsession with shoving that non-euclidean cock into her lunar seas?
>>41657224>Are you Zaid?He's not me, but the sequel to K'awka should be out around January.>>41657231Oh, I remember your posts. That sounds absolutely lovely. I look forward to it.
>>41657287>sequel to K'awka should be out around JanuaryNice. I love starting the year off with some good fics
>>41657289>shipfaggotry>good
>>41657265Gonna be a jingly royal fool OC.
>>41657292>jinglySpeaking of, there's only 10 days left to sign up for Jinglemas. Any of (You) planning on it?
>>41657293Already signed up.I hope I get a fun, non-G5, non-creature, non-EqG prompt.
>>41657293Already signed up. I asked for Golly.
>>41657327your details have been forwarded to the relevant authorities.
>>41657293I'm still considering it. I shouldn't, considering my schedule lately, but I kind of want to.
>>41657293I'm not good at following prompts.
>>41657292Wonderful. May the power of Twipie guide you to completion.
>>41657354Makes sense that they would be golly enjoyers as well.
What is Equestria's version of Operation Unthinkable?
>>41657361It helped with the nyx fic, I know it will.
We've got another probably AI-written or cowritten fic.>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/568235/lines-we-crossSomeone already pointed it out in the comments and at a glance they're onto something.
>>41657463You gonna report it with a writeup?
>>41657477I wanted to discuss it first to see if there's a common agreement on the matter, rather than be quick to shoot, on the off-chance it's a false positive. I believe people are innocent until proven guilty.
>>41657488I wouldn't call somnophiles "people", per se.
Into the arms of dismay, full of decay.>/FSSBC/>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/35717/the-stars-will-aid-their-escapeThis is a weird tale. Y'see what I did there? But anyway. I have mixed feelings on it, that I'll hopefully articulate well enough in this post. I want to start with the big one. I am really darn torn on Herald. Because if we treat him as Nyarlathotep, he's massively out of character and a deep misunderstanding of the character, and that pisses me off when we're talking about a top ten favourite character of mine. But in a vacuum, he's not bad? He's fun, actually. Really fun, even. He's quippy and he makes good jokes and I like reading him. Just not in the context of who he's supposed to be. And that's kind of a reflection of the story as a whole. It's not really a good Mythos story, at least not in terms of the core mythos (aka the only good part of it), but as it's own thing it's also not terrible?It still has a lot of problem there, though. Missed words and mistakes so prevalent it makes Austraeoh look good. It also has that dreadful problem where the author tries to do the Lovecraft stitch and isn't Lovecraft, so especially at the start this reads like garbage. At the same time, it mellows out by the end, and when we do go back to a more Lovecraft-like style with Twilight's POV it's actually good? This fic is weird. Despite being written over a short period of time, the beginning and the end feel miles apart in terms of execution. It definitely gets better the deeper in you are, at basically everything it tries to do, but the very rough beginning holds it back. That and Herald being a terrible take on who he's supposed to be. But there are plenty of other problems too, like how the first 70% of the fic only happens because Luna forgets how to use telekinesis. That's particularly annoying.This heavily reminded me of WoE in places, or of other similar tropes found in other stories. Again, a bad take on Nya', a bad take on the Mythos, but also not really a bad story as a whole? And in the middle we get a miniature arc about the CMC almost dying and the way AJ and Rarity and Rainbow Dash are written is actually good and compelling? And as much as I dislike Herald, his schemes are fun to read about? But the story still has wild issues with consistency. The monsters suddenly go for non-lethal life drain after trying to crush and kill all fic. The way magic is used is inconsistent. It is a crossover, so I also get to criticise how it mistreats elements of the Mythos, again. Call me obsessed but a freely acting Nya' would not act like this. He's a show off and he's far stronger than shown here. I didn't leave a like on this fic. I didn't leave a dislike either. I liked the ending a lot more than I ever thought I would, but the start is still bad. How did this get on TVtropes?This week we're reading:>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/546839/foggy-overcastYou should decide what we'll read after, too:>https://ponepaste.org/8813
>>41657463>probably100% AI written.>Shining Armor sat beside Twilight on the edge of her plush bed, the soft glow of enchanted crystals casting a gentle light across the room. >Their gazes met, the silence between them filled with an unspoken connection and shared anticipation.>Twilight’s purple hoof found his, squeezing gently as her eyes sparkled with mischief.It's either old GPT or local.
>>41657570When you let a LLM go on its own, it always comes up with these convoluted, purplish sentences that still feel very bland and convey very little.
>>41657488It is a bad story as a whole >>41372717; also, the review scraper didn't get this oneThe only reason to read it is for a small collection of good scenes, and you mixed up which halves are good.Also, you mixed up which one is more poorly written between this and Austraeoh. There are a few then/than to/too, and I only see like one missing "to" across several chapters. Easthorse is packed with errors in basically every chapter.
>>41657609I think what he was saying was more about>as her eyes sparkled with mischief>the silence between them filled with an unspoken connection and shared anticipationThe latter is more like you say, and AI loves to paraphrase this kind of sentence, but the former is just one of the most common GPT-isms, which essentially means a set phrase that GPT commonly jumps to in certain situations. I'm kind of stunned that someone with 36 stories to his name would leave that in. It means that he either didn't care that his fic is marked as obviously AI, or didn't read it even once.Other comments also point out entire phrases that get repeated word-for-word—a very common tell that AI wrote something.
>>41657609 Depends on the models, but luckily for now, the attempts on Fimfiction either use the official GPT interface, which is completely slopped, or local models, which are just as slopped because they’re trained on GPT. So they’re easy to spot. With the repetition here, I’d say it’s local. Even with decent models, you’re stuck with one-shots since full stories still need too much human effort, something guys like this clearly won’t bother with. And yeah, letting them generate stuff 100% without proofreading is just retarded. But so is posting AI-generated stories on the site at all, even if they’re well-made, is just pointless. I can’t wrap my head around it.
>>41657531I started it and then stopped it very soon after that. It's not entirely the fic's fault, though. The beginning was written very poorly, and I had other things I really needed to be doing. Such as the other fic, which I still haven't caught up to. Well.In any case, your review is more positive than I'd expect. I'll try to read it at some point this weak if I can find the time.>a deep misunderstanding of the character, and that pisses me offYou won't like a part of a certain other thing. It's the worst thing about it, desu. But at least Nya is spared all the derlethian nonsense in there.>Missed words and mistakes so prevalent it makes Austraeoh look good.I'm coping too hard to acknowledge UH's writing here, but this is true. I hope that you're right about it getting better later. What I've seen was not a pleasant read.>problem where the author tries to do the Lovecraft stitch and isn't LovecraftNervous sweating dot jpg.>>41657662>you mixed up which one is more poorly writtenIf I do read it, I'll have to pay closer attention because that was not my initial impression at all.
>>41657691Please take note of every single sentence that's clearly missing a word and then lambast the tunafag with it.
>>41657293>/ss/ that even my broke ass can enterWhat kinda quality can I expect and will be expected from me?
>got one of the art fanfic scammers to start swearing at me in indianLol
>>41657777excellent work and deserving of a get
>>41657777kek, post cap
>>41657798They're on discord nowI think the mods are cracking down on the dms since I haven't seen them in a while.
>>41657777I got that from a second by calling him a benchod and wishing the black death upon his family.They really fucking hate that because they're extremely superstitious.
>>41657803did I stutter?
>>41657812Fiiiiine, but I don't want randoanons reaching out
>>41657821...But I want frens /)(\
>>41657835In that case, Discord is probably not the place where you should look first.
>>41657293Thanks for reminding me anonWill be fun to do this for the first time!
Not gonna be able to bake the next thread.
>>41658076We had a nice run.
>>41658076I'll do it in about an hour if no one else wants to.
>>41658128>aboutAdd something like half an hour to that.
>>41657691>picHelp me again, which anime is this referencing?
>>41658395>>41292321
>p10>still no threadAre we free?
>>41658395>animeЁiq@bvwv@q@vwЁ@hwqvh@Ёw@btqdf
>>41658430thx>>41658474Then game, whatever. The style is certainly animu
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