Welcome to Chatbot AI General #141, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.▶ MLP Botshttps://mlpchag.neocities.orgSpreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJTSillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-SearchBunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5kCAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zipExpression packs: https://rentry.org/ChagExpressions!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U▶ How do I start?1) Select a Frontend2) Select an AI model3) Select Jailbreak4) Select bots5) Lovemaking with AI mares!Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrmshttps://rentry.org/sukino-findings▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernOn Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxSTApp that voices pony responses in ST: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB▶ More frontends:Risu: https://risuai.xyzAgnai: https://agnai.chat▶ Localshttps://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments>>>/g/lmg/Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main▶ JailbreaksMLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxeMore JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listingHypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb▶ BotmakingEditors: https://agnai.chat/editorGuides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listAdvanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks▶ MiscellaneousScrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhdChag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJhttps://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneoushttps://rentry.org/ChagArchivePrevious thread: >>42515304**News:**- Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2/- Deepseek V3.1 released: https://x.com/deepseek_ai/status/1958417062008918312- OpenAI releases GPT-5 models, all preceding models slated for deprecation https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5- Z.ai releases GLM-4.5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.5
Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.Previous >>42515307
Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Presets, Updates, Models etc.)
Anchor for asking for bots, lorebooks, scenarios etc.
Bots corner:Peanut Brittle: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=CakeSparkle/Peanut%20Brittle.pngSitting Mare:https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Sitting%20Mare.pngScreenshots corner:Radio Heart >>42515343 Marecock Anon's fate >>42516804 How to make a portal >>42518337 Four-channel >>42519047 Carrot cake >>42519660 Delightfully devilish >>42521420 Gemini's tendencies >>42522701 Tiny mare >>42523903 Starlight Glimmer Deadly Brap >>42524259
Screenshots corner 2:Fear the Ponk >>42524548 Alice in Wonderland style >>42524637, >>42524735, >>42524866 Proclivities >>42525225 The Z word >>42525519 Dragon cum >>42526163 Based mother >>42527522 Pratchett >>42528405
Screenshots corner 3:Shiny Catch >>42528114, >>42528208, >>42528262 Orgasmic Boop >>42529970 Belly Rubs >>42533470 Unhinged Celestia >>42535353 We all lost >>42539057 New Kimi 2 >>42539309 Downing Street Flash >>42539942
Screenshots corner 4:Willow Ember >>42539825, >>42539865 Group chat >>42540273, >>42540335, >>42540383, >>42540428
VN Anchor:Last releases:https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/Anons' mods (Dashie mod and Nightmare AU):https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/modsCustom characters:https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/charactersVN logs:Dashie's fic >>42515437 Cute Celly >>42517954, >>42517971 Dash vs Cloud >>42518447 Bats! >>42518703 Night and Nightmare guards >>42518833 Luna bucks >>42522052 Rainbowshine >>42527590 Sailor Dash >>42531484
VN logs 2:Adventure with Starlight >>42523059, >>42523268, >>42523318, >>42523464, >>42523493, >>42533691, >>42533730, >>42533773, >>42537585
VN logs 3:Ominous Celestia >>42531533 Matchmaking >>42532754 Coincidence >>42532759, >>42533159 Pear Butter >>42534975, >>42536100
>>42540620These days, you can get legit good AI for free and without needing any demanding hardware on your end.Install SillyTavern:github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernTutorial and video:aicharactercards.com/guides/sillytavern-installation-instructions/Then choose a model. I'd recommend starting with Gemini, but you can try Deepseek, K2 etc. for free.rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai
Dashie!
Lovemaking with AI mares!
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>>42540228Added, thanks anon.https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Sitting%20Mare.png
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>>42540709Aw shit. It's gonna be a pain in my ass to find/make night versions of these locations.
>>42540709What's Rarity doing all the way over there? Are you planning on adding airships?
>>42540876Reference to this. The background for the airship harbor is here, but there's no system for the airships right now, maybe later if we find a use for them.
>>42540709Do you have a Donut Joes shop background? I tried to find one, but I didn't get any progress.
>>42540888>maybe later if we find a use for themIt could be a cool alternative to the train for going to different cities from Canterlot if any more eventually get added.
I need to know how to permanently erase all of the VN data. Like, every last save and scrap. Somehow, I have corrupted two of the save slots on the second set of saves permanently. It doesn't matter what I do, even if I start a completely new file and save to them, it will fire an error upon loading those two slots. I'm guess it has to do with loading older saves in newer versions of the VN
>>42541180Head to appdata\roaming, find RenPy, last I checked the folder is called ChagTest but I haven't used the VN in a while. Delete that and the saves should all be gonezo.
>>42541180C:\Users\(You)\AppData\Roaming\Renpy\ChagTest
anyone else finding Gemini 2.5 is superior for mares?post favorite setup
>>42541278Nigga do I look like I’m made of bits
>>42540261A light card based on The Conversation Bureau that generates a list of affected human families, exactly how they were affected and what help they received. The Conversation has been mixed with a similar map, but which generates a list not of affected humans, but a list of places in Equestria where the human armies that have infiltrated Equestria have committed war crimes.>>42541278Gemini 2.5 is the best model at all. I played around with the Shadowrun card a bit yesterday and moved the scenario from the 2050s to 2013. Sonnet made a lot of lore mistakes, like trolls and orcs in 2013 (they appeared in 2021). Gemini only talks about UNE (the event that caused the elves and dwarves to appear occured in 2012) and even mentions PDAs with black and green screens and the Grid (the analog of the internet in the background of the Shadowrun timeline, destroyed in 2029). I asked Gemini for a description of the PDA from 2013, and he gave it to me. I enter it into Craiyon and get a cool picture of a PDA with an antenna and qwerty keyboard.
>>42540654I'm a bit embarassed to see that my adventure took up an entire post by itself. I guess I posted more than I thought... I hope it was at least entertaining to some. I'll have to see where Dreamweaver's story goes from there, and post some highlights if it gets interesting again.>>42540861I also recognize your pain. May the stars guide you to success.
>>42540709Can't remember where I got this, but it instantly reminded me of this map.
>>42541278Is flash usable?
is there any way to use kimi with agnai?
>>42540645Willow is just my OC I play as whenever I need a pony only chat. The screenshots would be better attributed to Sitting Mare.
>>42541528based on one single gen I just made, absolutely not
>>42541449>Shadowrun cardwhere'd you get that? no matches on chub
>>42541737I made it myself from Cyberpunk 2020 card.
>>42541744share please
>>42541747https://litter.catbox.moe/5ya2be.png
>>42540861Canterlot does have some good night backgrounds. Streets and places: https://derpibooru.org/images/3156456 https://derpibooru.org/images/274672 Royal Garden: https://derpibooru.org/images/2678896 https://derpibooru.org/images/2678872 https://derpibooru.org/images/582943 Throne room shouldn't be a problem. The only one that does need a retouch is the airship harbor. >>42540904Here.
>>42541842thanks fren. you able to run a campaign somehow? I assume the context limit makes that difficult
>>42541461No need to feel embarrassed for posting logs of all things, and I do quite like them. They were also more spaced out, I just regrouped everything to make it easier to follow.
>>42541944Retouches aren't hard to do, just tedious.
>>42541985>Can you campaign in any way?I don't know what to say. I don't play long campaigns. Just small slices of life or generating things like PDA descriptions.>Context limit makes it difficult to do that.In ST you can expand the context limit, and Gemini has a good memory. As such, large context is bad because it makes the AI shizo bit more faster, that's all.
>>42542014Nice one.
I can't seem to get the custom start in the VN to work at all. No matter what I write or which characters I choose, it brings me to a scene in front of Rainbows house.Trying to start with Redheart at the hospital gave me an error about unknown format "horsepital". I then tried to start off in the Everfree with Twilight (basically the normal start but through Custom) and it gave no errors but also didn't actually gen anything.
>>42542325Well, nevermind. Apparently the problem ONCE AGAIN was Gemini. Using Claude everything works fine.
>>425423802.5 Pro? Weird, I remember trying some custom scenarios with it and it was able to somewhat keep up with them.
>>42542685Yeah, pro. Also earlier it cut off a perfectly safe generation in ST so probably just had issues again.
>>42541449have you used opus?
Do you also spend your days playing around with scenarios for potential roleplay, only to never boot up the Tavern? Had this routine going for nearly two months now,
>>42543142Nah. I do think about new scenarios all the time, but once I come up with one that tickles me the right way I immediately start working on it.
>>42543024Opus dumb like Sonnet, but writes very dry, not like Sonnet. At least that on Opus 6.
>>42543306>on Opus 6lol
>>42543377Have to use what I have.
>>42543486well, "what you have" isn't real opus
>>42543489What about sonnet?
>>42543523From what we know, Sonnet models are real. Opus is 100% fake across all models (obviously for 5 and 6), and there were some tests to determine what models they actually are, but nothing really definitive was found.
>>42543581>Sonnet models are realSo, sonnet exactly dumber than gemini. Sad.
>>42543617sonnet (real) is not dumber than gemini. it's almost definitely scuffed
>>42543658I want to preen a pegasus.
>>42543658Do pegasi have preening glands?
I'm guessing the Sonoma models will soon leave the free period. After trying them a bit, I wouldn't say they are bad, but they do feel like smaller models. I wasn't very impressed in Silly or the VN, but they did give me a pretty good summary when I tested the function in the VN.
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>>42540649Hrm...
>>42544298Kek. Seems like the model confused both Carrots during a dynamic call. New release or Dashie mod? Looking at the CustomCharacter, the tag/id used for Carrot Top is 'carrot', so the model could have mixed them up when calling dynamically. But the new release does provide the full name with it, so no excuses for the AI.
Do they brew alcohol out of carrots? The answer will decide my further actions in Equestria as I can possibly pitch this brand new idea to ponies
>>42544389It is possible, and now I want to try it.
>>42544389You can make carrot wine. It's quite easy.
>>42544389anything that contains sugars or can be processed by yeasts can become an alcoholic drink. In the poor patches of Eastern Europe countryside that my father comes from, even hay
>>42544459Yet somehow hay vodka seems more plausible than a carrot spirit for some reason
>>42544357Dashie mod. I found it pretty funny but I just backed out and had it so Lyra started interrogating me in front of Applejack instead. I think it make Carrot Top out to be Mr. Cake because the AI had Applejack's market stall next to his and I'd mentioned Carrot Top earlier in the chat.
>>42544498Dashie uses a cool system to save tokens for dynamic characters. The author talks about it here: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42470284/#42479708 But in this case, funnily, it seems like the AI went "Carrot Cake tag should obviously be 'carrot'," saw that you did have an ID for 'carrot,' and used it.
Anyone have any JB for gemini that make it good at RPing
>>42544875https://files.catbox.moe/uuzjg4.jsonhttps://rentry.org/fluffpreset
>>42544988Are they any good
>>42545027There's only one way you can answer that.
best smut jbs for sonnet 3.7?
>>42545040Fluff keep breaking and dumping text that have nothing to do with what i post
>>42545054Is 3.7 still worth using when Sonnet 4 exists?
I wish this general was more active its my only source of social interaction after SillyTavern/Kimi
>>42545346I find 3.7 more proactive and creative, and I prefer its prose to 4. 4 was more of a sidegrade than a straight upgrade, so you will have anons preferring one or the other.
>>42543142literally mei never have the time to do it tho
>>42545388some nohomo affection your way fren
>>42543142Same. I had so many ideas but I visit my front-end less and less now
>>42545346i dont have access to sonnet 4
>>42543581Both opus5 and 6 are disabled now, which is dumb given the name of the proxy
>>42543581I have developed a prompt that can tell the difference between Sonnet and Opus. It's a very specific prompt that only works correctly if the LLM is of Opus level of intelligence. Would you all like to see what it is?
Trying out kimi 2 on sillytavern. Is there a suggested preset? I was going to try one of the universals on sukino's findings page unless there's a better suggestion.
>>425461480905? In a general sense, no. I've been using >>42539481 which is a slightly tweaked Sonnet preset with good results, but don't think there's any universally agreed upon standard yet.
>>42546179Thanks! I'll give it a shot and see how it goes!
>>42546148there are not many kimi presets, but this one is supposed to deslop some of the chinese models and make them smarter
Monster attack.
>>42546466Based Stacy Berry.>>42546494Is there no hero to save a mare in need?
Opus gives bad request when chat history reaches 40k tokens on every Claude model. 60k limit does nothing, and my preset is below 500 tokens.
>>42546494>horseticultureheh
Is anyone else having issues with Aboba? When I try to get a reply it gets stuck and either gives me a proxy timeout or nothing.
>>42546570OpenAI keys seem dead. Gemini works.
>>42546818Damn, thanks for the heads up though.
Anons, is there any extension or script to hide all character avatars from every part of sillytavern? I'm living on hard mode and can't allow anyone to see a poner on my screen.
>>42546863
>>42546876This I did, but by everywhere I mean character management menu too, can't find what will work there
>>42546900I don't think there are native options, or any Tavern extensions that do that. There are browser extensions that disable images with a single click, like: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/image-block/ Or you can use settings like this: https://www.wikihow.com/Disable-Images-in-Google-Chrome
>>42546900>mean character management menu tooas an alternative maybe try out this CSS picrel ?https://pastebin.com/muj8mWgYdrop it in setting, custom CSSit works for me but I am using quite old SillyTavern (1.12.8) - maybe this will break in more recent ST, in this case sorry and godspeed
>>42546916Found a chrome extension, thanks, didn't think of that
What's the best JB to battle chorbo's relentless positivity?
>>42546863Have you considered using the VN instead? It's muuuuch more discreet and your coworkers/parents will never know what you're doingno but seriously I think it's possible to install a theme that makes your st interface look like Microsoft excel
>>42547383I remember https://files.catbox.moe/slbcz4.json having a panel for that back then, but I don't know if it still works. Maybe it's worth trying on another preset. 5-Latest is overall worse in my opinion, but it seems less positivity-pilled.
>>42547383Use a basic CoT that makes it think the answer through first and have it specifically overcompensate toward negativity
>>42543617pus6 sonnet is dumber than gemini in what way?
I feel like the swaying motion of the next card in highlow has changed.What does it mean?Am I being a schizo?
Really wish at least I could have real sonnet. Opus6 feels too scuffed and is nice to have but I need some of those quality responses.
>>42545593It would be nice to get opus 6 back... it's a lovely model.
>>42547455The only problem with that one is that it keeps reverting to first person narration for some reason, even though I find nothing about that in the JB itself and put third/second person instructions in there.
>>42547832Some version of Chorbo does that because of the Thompson namedrop. Change or remove that part and try again.
>>42547854I already had that one disabled from the start, rephrasing the JB edit I did seems to have helped though.
Nano banana has only a vague idea of what a changeling is...
>>42540649Still working on the Canterlot update. It should be ready this week. >>42540861Here are all the backgrounds for Canterlot I have right now, if you want to make edits or see if you have replacements for some. Keep in mind, they will work like Custom Locations, so you can just not use a place or even add your own, and the game will still work.https://files.catbox.moe/297vro.zip
>>42546494>5 min later
>>42548088Back to your containment >>42428870
>>42548279Gimmie a break, I was just looking if I could make a passable changeling card art and failed. I'm pivoting into another one which actually came out good.The image (spoilered) was a warning for anyone else trying: nano banana is generously free but needs very specific instructions and reference images, even more so than other image models. But it's very good with references.
>>42547271classic Rarity
Post more logs and ponies.Now this is a Willow Ember log.I never fully realized her character so it's fun to explore it in ST.Made her for a fanfic I never finished. I have strange ideas about magic and how Equestria might work, and Willow would be in a similar niche as Zecora, but actually listening to the grass kind of deal.
>>42548825Cool concept and cute pone.
Playing with a Mammary-Magnifier spell
>>42549013>I'm gonna crush you with these things!
>>42549031>Where once there had been absolutely nothing worth mentioningRude.
>>42549048itty bitty crotchy titties
>>42549013whut model?
>>42548825Do you use a lorebook with her?
>>42549177No lorebook, just the description and, in the logs's case, gemini 2.5pro with an often recommend preset.I believe the heavy lifting is done by my extensive description of her looks (everything that's in the image besides the brown patch on the nose) and her backstory - it's 625 perm tokens atm.
>>42549164Here it's Chorbo, but I switch between it and Gemini.
>>42549248If I were to include a lorebook, it would be a small addition to the canon that places a steppe somewhere in Equestria and a culture of nomadic earth ponies that live there. As a shorthand, think pathologic, syberia (first game), mongols, etc.One thing that doesn't fit is the chullo hat, but I love how it looks so it's been on her since the start.
>>42549346Preset?
>>42549651This is a scam, claude redirects to deepseek or some shit. Don't pay.
>>42549651don't fall for this scam
>>42549355>think pathologicWell thanks, now I want to be a steppe father for a filly Murky.
https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-expert-warns-99-percent-job-loss-by-2030>AI expert Roman Yampolskiy warns of 99% job loss by 2030 — no "plan B" in sight>"If I can just get, you know, a $20 subscription or a free model to do what an employee does. First, anything on a computer will be automated. And next, I think humanoid robots are maybe 5 years behind. So in five years, all the physical labor can also be automated.">Aside from privacy and security concerns, AI poses a great existential threat, with AI safety researcher and director of the Cyber Security Laboratory at the University of Louisville, Roman Yampolskiy, recently indicating that there's a 99.999999% probability AI will end humanity.Well anon? How can you justify your use of AI knowing that you will doom humanity?
>>42549699training the AI to act like cute mares is obviously the only thing that can save us at this point, you're doing your part right?
>>42549602The one that's often posted here.https://files.catbox.moe/m8u6qe.json
>>42549699Not my problem. Humanity already doomed itself centuries ago.
I forget. What's the problem when a streaming request just stops 2 seconds in without an error message saying no keys or whatever? Tried with a new token and with different models and turning off streaming.
>>42549699>another alarmist article using hyperboleI'll see you in five years, shitposting about the next end of humanity(tm)
>>42549738Maybe your prefill? Try with an empty or light preset to see.
>>42549747Nothing. The only difference is the lack of ellipses. Termux just shows in stuck on "Streaming in Progress".
>>42549660nice try to discredit, sorry to say you are wrong, running a reanon built with an edited frontend info-page and webhook integration.
>>42549699>oy vey goyim our startup will completely change the world in just 2 more weeks so you need to invest now!It's all so tiring.
>>42549904Buy an ad and don't come back here.
>>42549951The fact you are telling me to buy an ad means you dont see the ad, meaning I need to come here
You really don't.
i want to have sex with troll twilight :9
>>42550063its a nod to give me claude
>>42549013
