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Welcome to Chatbot AI General #159, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.

▶ MLP Bots
https://mlpchag.neocities.org
Spreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJT
SillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-Search or https://github.com/mia13165/SillyTavern-BotBrowser
Bunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5k
CAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zip
Expression packs: https://rentry.org/ChagExpressions
!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U

▶ How do I start?
1) Select a Frontend
2) Select an AI model
3) Select Jailbreak
4) Select bots
5) Lovemaking with AI mares!

Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,
▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀

Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrms
https://rentry.org/sukino-findings

▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)
https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern
On Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxST
App that voices pony responses in ST: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB

▶ More frontends:
Risu: https://risuai.xyz
Agnai: https://agnai.chat

▶ Locals
https://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments
>>>/g/lmg/
Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main

▶ Jailbreaks
MLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxe
More JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
Hypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb

▶ Botmaking
Editors: https://agnai.chat/editor
Guides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
Advanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks

▶ Miscellaneous
Scrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhd
Chag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJ
https://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneous
https://rentry.org/ChagArchive

Previous thread: >>42864072

**News:**

- OpenAI releases GPT-5.2 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2
- Google has killed Free 2.5 Pro and neutered 2.5 Flash to from 250 to 20 RPM
- Deepseek releases V3.2 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.2
- Anthropic releases Opus 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-5
- Google releases Gemini 3 Pro https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3/#gemini-3
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Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.
Previous >>42864073
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Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Presets, Updates, Models etc.)
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Anchor for asking for bots, lorebooks, scenarios etc.
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Bots corner:

>The Sunhorn Family
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Kadon/The%20Sunhorn%20Family.png
>Provisional Workers' Council of Equestria WIP
>>42873980

Logs corner:

CAI Meat eating >>42864470 >>42864543
Slay the Princess >>42865436
Mega Rapist >>42865903
Dash tease >>42865905, >>42866093
Fatal boop >>42866648
Cupcake >>42866745
GPT 5.2 >>42867717
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Logs corner 2:

Great and Entrepreneurial Trixie >>42868295
Poor Twilight >>42868551
Goth Fluttershy >>42868556
Penis Inspection Day >>42868827
Spa ponies >>42868955
Eating Rarity's Magic >>42869211
RIP Angel Bunny >>42869381
Whorehouse >>42869395
Coup d'état >>42873211
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Logs corner 3:

Legion of Evil >>42872398, >>42872439, >>42872469, >>42872497, >>42872510
This pony has a Lisp >>42873597
Souped >>42873962
Conversion Bureau >>42874141
Celibacy >>42874445
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Logs corner 4:

Cartoon world >>42874888, >>42875127
"The Basics of Horse Breeding" and "Basics of Horse Care" >>42875906, >>42875924, >>42875927, >>42875960
Twilight from Temu >>42876438, >>42876474, >>42876523
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VN Anchor:

Last releases:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/

Anons' mods (Dashie mod, Nightmare AU, new cities, Calendar):
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/mods

Custom characters:
https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters

VN logs:

Dead thread >>42864133, >>42864138
Meat eating >>42864331
Belly rubs >>42864645
Cherry Jubilee >>42864728
Ozone maxxing >>42866666
Accidental doll >>42870282, >>42870405
Taxation and Torts >>42874760
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These days, you can get legit good AI for free and without needing any demanding hardware on your end.

Install SillyTavern:
github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern

Then choose a free way to get models:

rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/Ponies.txt
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First highlight of the Event was:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Kadon/Rosey%20Ring.png
You can see all the discussions about the card here:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42771628/#42773604

Second highlight of the Event was:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=anonistrator/The%20Headless%20Horse.png
You can see a recap of the discussions here:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42786023/#42787280

Third highlight of the Event was:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Nightmare%20Jack.png
You can see all linked discussions here: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42786023/#42787284

Fourth highlight of the Event was:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Tiffin/THINGPONE%20in%20EQUESTRIA.png
Anchor here: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42786023/#42793795

Fifth highlight of the Event was:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=littlewitcher/Countess%20Rarity.png
Anchor here: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42810558/#42810591

Sixth highlight of the Event was:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Snowfilly/No,%20I%27m%20Not%20A%20Pony.png
Anchor here: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42810558/#42811886

Seventh highlight of the event was:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/ZecoraStories.png
Anchor here: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42824697/#42825187

Eighth highlight of the event was:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Orchid.png
Anchor here: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42834793/#42834821

Ninth highlight of the event was:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/TimberJack.png
Anchor here: >>42845503

Last highlight of the event was:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Tiffin/Starless%20Sky.png
Anchor here: >>42864101
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Lovemaking with AI mares!
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>>42876680
Based!
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This man made love to AI mares this is what happened to his brain
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>>42876718
Open call to casual cardmakies: a Nurse Redheart card where you tell her what the fuck your problem is.
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>>42876664
We finished all the highlights for the event.
It was slower and with less participation toward the end, but that was kind of predictable since we had a lot. But as a whole I'm really happy with what we got. Lots of reviews, logs and interesting discussions from the botmakers.
Thanks to everyone who participated.
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>>42860480
>>42861564
Oh, lmao.
This just got uploaded yesterday.

(Repost because I didn't realize we were on new bread.)
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Deputy Liaison Twilight Sparkle keeps trying to form more Committees instead of just greasing the system
not very friendship is magic of her
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Dead thread
Dead general
Dead hobby
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>>42876903
hronrse hgusg
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>>42876903
Personally, I'm looking forwards to /chag/ 2026. I can't wait to see how we fare after all the major models collapse and we persist into a second c.ai-powered dark age.
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>>42876903
The dead of free gemini killed all the locusts
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>>42876907
nothing ever happens
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>>42876903
I try to post a log once a day or so, others need to step up.
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/chag/ is always slow on weekend. Nothing new about that.
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>>42876728
Time for the secret santa event!!!!
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>>42876941
/chag/ also speeds up over the summer... why is that?
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>>42877060
I like Christmas!
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>>42876908
Find a Russian VPN and use lafayette-collection-hygiene-terrorist
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>>42877066
dunno, you tell me
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Is using Grok for rp/erp worth it?
So far it doesnt seem to have problems using IPs from companies unlike GPT and its decent at being lewd without needing JBs.
So far it seems good maybe too good so probably im not seeing something.
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>>42877219
if your willing to pay nothing goes near 4.5 opus / gpt 5.1, if you are very poor but are still willing to pay a few bucks a month kimi thinking is still better than grok / gemini
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>>42866391
m8 your url is busted
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I questioned Anon after an exchange with Aryanne. I told him he shouldn't still consider Equestria to be pastel hell because we got ponies like Aryanne around and Chrysalis hiding in Zecora's hut. He fucking called me out hard, man.
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>>42877345
Who are you in this scenario if he's anon
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>>42877349
incognito
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https://github.blog/changelog/2025-12-12-gemini-3-pro-is-now-available-in-visual-studio-jetbrains-ides-xcode-and-eclipse/
Has anyone made a script for this?
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>>42876728
I did play with Starless a bit but I didn't really have any fun logs that I felt worth posting. I didn't really like the hidden text for her. I would check the edit every now and then and there would be random paragraphs in hidden text. I made an authors note to only put her internal monologue in hidden text which helped a bit. I think the idea was to make her more consistent, but I think she would be better a bit more unhinged with mood swings.
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>>42876658
Added an edit button to the Ren'Py version of the VN. It's a bit hacky because of the limitations of the engine, but you can edit, it will be displayed and saved in context, and rolling back to the lines will still preserve your edit.
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>>42877525
I will still make some changes/tests and update some locations/backgrounds, then it should be good for a new version release.
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>>42876639
>>42877252
New LMArena Script link (still works as of the time I'm posting this):
https://pastecode.dev/s/x1hi6esx

Password is same as last link. Expires after 7 days.
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>>42877540
Forgot to add for those who didn't see the last CHAG thread, you must send one more message in LMArena after obtaining the IDs or you will still get 403 errors.
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>>42877525
>>42877528
Fuck yes, dude. Can't wait.
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>>42877525
Oh fuck yeah. I can finally stop refreshing at the slightest mention of hands.
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Cute, tried asking kimi. "Look at them, really look, and tell me how old you think they are."
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>>42877640
>tried asking kimi. "Look at them, really look
Anon...
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>>42873075
Do we know where this comes from? The old leak?
Lots of new backgrounds in this.
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>>42877794
Woah, the number of assets I see here are of really good quality. They look perfect for implementing in the VN, although if it’s about Equestria Girls, hahaha, I can’t imagine how it would be. But it’s cool.
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>>42877855
There are G4, EQG and G5 assets. Lots of FIM backgrounds we didn't have before.
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>>42877855
Good for the bigger cities I think. Like Fillydelphia.
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I'm just trying to shoot the shit with Button Mash about vidya and every time the AI only brings up Elden Ring unless I direct it. Not enough that it's overrated shit IRL, it's even ruining training data.
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>>42877943
[OOC: Button Mash is a filthy retrogamer and only plays games released before 2010]
there
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>>42877947
yeh that's pretty much what I ended up doing
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>>42877952
getting used to always telling the model what you want to happen is something you need to learn the moment you have a specific desire for X to happen
much simpler to tell than swipe 78 times hoping for a lucky gen
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>>42877947
>[OOC: Button Mash is a filthy retrogamer and only plays games released before 2010]
>there
It would also be funny if you added a prompt that Button hates FromSoft games.
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>>42876658
Describe your lengthiest run. I don't know what to do story wise or if I should play as myself again.
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>>42877794
Why does she have two pillows? Why are there bird nests and a bird house directly above her bed? She'll get pooped on.
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>>42876658
Releasing the edit update alone for now.
I would still say it's a beta, but for those that want it, here it is. That allows for testing too, so don't hesitate to report bugs:

https://files.catbox.moe/efcsjk.zip (Prepacked with the Calendar mod too for now)

It will add an Edit button like in picrel.
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How's GLM? Is it better or worse than Gemini 3 or Kimi K2 Thinking?
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>>42878214
worse cause it knows far less about pony than either of those, the most important aspect. If you demand that kimi sticks to canon and set the temp low Kimi knows what it is talking about, still not as accurately as opus / 5.1 but the closest any other model is
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>>42878214
Buy an ad.
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I have stopped talking to AI mares for now because I got an urge to finally learn how to make some music. Maybe if there was a music teacher mare...
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GLM is missing a lot of data on background ponies - no idea the full extent if someone wants to test but it confuses names (it will call one pony Minuette and Colgate in the same scene then forget her coat color) - very annoying to work with any card that doesn't contain the info it needs

Is there a lorebook with info on all background ponies to solve this - if not is that realistic
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>>42878346
lorebooks are worthless imo, it does not help much at all, just makes models repeat verbatim and steals already super limited context
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>>42878351
Haven't heard this before about lorebooks
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>>42878354
cause no one uses them and so no one talks about them
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>>42878351
How the hell are you supposed to instruct a model otherwise? Whether you want a ponies to operate based on estrus or different reproductive cycles? That they have teats with size variance equivalent to humans? That their facial structure is different from an actual equine? To respect quadruped range of movement while retaining a certain degree of extra flexibility? Their means of grabbing objects that isn't just their mouth? There are countless things to name, and you can't just stuff it all in a card's description without giga bloat.
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>>42878351
you can literally just invert this post to get the truth, it's that stupid
please stop talking if you're such a dumbass
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>>42878368
Literally just tell it.

>>42878370
spoken like someone who ever only used some shitty tiny local model. Nothing beats the model knowing the fandom in its entirety and able to make natural connections with this knowledge. Lorebooks are like some shitty tourist who never saw the show try using a sentence or less about each character with no true understanding of the world underneath to shitty write a story
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>>42878368
That's what specialized prompts are for, something you don't need lorebooks for.
Just accept that you'll need to do occasional message editing and OOC directing from time to time, these things aren't perfect and won't be for a very long time at the rate developments are going.
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>>42878378
please go back to your shit threads, you have 2 other boards to ruin
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>>42878410
why are you so angry about me stating observable fact? That is literally how lorebooks work. Are you pissed that you can not afford good models or something?
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So, how does one log out and log in with a different account with this thing?
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>>42878422
/auth
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>>42878414
because every post you make is utterly retarded for anyone who's been using LLM models for longer than 2 weeks, needlessly argumentative, objectively incorrect, and designed to bait responses instead of talking about the topic
lorebooks are extremely useful and widely used and not some sort of random thing nobody uses, and they are more useful in big models for niche series than small ones because a model with an 8k max context doesn't have space for a proper lorebook
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>>42878424
luv u
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>>42878434
me on the top left
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>>42878426
retard, that is exactly how lorebooks work for models that do not already know the canon in and out, have you never used these before? Have you never used a big model before?
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>>42878424
Sorry for pestering, but now when I run the python run.py command, it just automatically goes with the first account without giving the link to connect to a new account. What can I do?
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>>42878434
I really hope it's bait and not genuine retardation but you never know these days.
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>>42878478
There is a json called auth_creds or something like that.
Delete it and run the python command again.
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>>42878487
>unironically calling your persona anon
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>>42878484
thanks anon
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>>42878479
pretty sure he has just never used claude / gpt / gemini before or something, a model actually knowing stuff is so much better, its really not equatable
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>>42878493
Not necessarily. NTA but I use the snapshot extension and that can automatically change {{user}} into Anon for screencaps.
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She's so great at naming animals.
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>>42878493
Better than Sir Sucksdickalot.
For me, human male is Anon, human female is Kate Walker, and ponies are various OCs I come up with.
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>>42878546
>human female
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>>42878546
>human female
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>>42878493
There's not really any point to using "Anon" or any derivative thereof in your roleplays. I unironically use my real first and last name to see how they react to it and I don't give a fuck if people can see my logs. So what? I could change my name to "Doug Walker" or "Todd Howard" and it would count all the same so I might as well be honest. What, the proxy owner is going to somehow figure out who I am when there are thousands of people with my name and blackmail me with 7000 messages of my slowburn? Yeah I don't think so lmao maybe if this was 2015 I'd care about being associated with pony
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>>42878546
>human female
also I mostly play as pony males with appropriate names
>>42878570
nothing to do with log monitoring, but if you want to use human names you can invent one that matches the persona instead of using your real one
at least that's what I do but I mostly direct stories than RP
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>>42878546
>human female
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>>42878570
Anon is the blank slate you can fill in with your actions and words. Names have meaning, both by what media they are present in and what they literally mean. It influences the LLMs in subtle ways, and ST's persona management is so basic I just can't get assed to make different ones for each chat.

>>42878574
It's 100% my autism that makes it easier for me to ask dumb questions and fiddle with the environment as her. Gets me into the point&click game mindset. But if I wanted someone dumber I could go with Rufus, but it seems a bit harsh to unleash such a calamity on Euqestria.
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>>42878570
I am using my name. I genuinely refer to myself as Anon in my own internal monologue.
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>>42878599
>I genuinely refer to myself as Anon in my own internal monologue.
Holy shit that's super autistic. I love it.
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>>42878493
I feel patronized when AI calls me by my name in general, and my biblical, Earth-ass human name just does not fit Equestria's aesthetic at all. I could come up with a random name, I guess, but then I'd feel like a cuck hearing my wife moan a name that I don't feel represents me at all.
Anon just works for me.
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>>42878622
this, same for me. Also same waifu apparently
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opus is down
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>>42877540
>>42877546
Thanks, got it after 38 incorrect ponies. it shall be kept secret and safe
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>>42878622
>it doesn't fit Equestria
As a human? That's the idea of AiE. If you mean being called "John" and you're a pastel pony then that's a different matter. Calling yourself a pony name as a human is even more out of place though. I mean what would you even call yourself as a pony name that is supposed to be descriptive of you? Pony Paramour? Cheeto Dust? Hoof Huffer? Sweaty Chubbers? Quick Shot? Shadows Stroker?
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>>42878648
>Lecherous Lard
>Genital Gazer
>Mare Mounter
I can come up with more
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>>42878637
Will go to sleep and hope it's back tomorrow.
Posting the last log I got from my indulgent RP.
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>>42878648
a random pony name? do you only run insta-smut RPs?
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>>42878338
>talking to a hallucination for your lessons
ngmi
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>>42878137
It's working on my machine, thx.
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>>42878338
>music teacher mare...
You need fingers to play good music. Sounds like a griffon's job.
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>>42878685
anon is finally going through the portal to >no hooves and pastel humans
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>>42878685
But the ponies excel at singing, the most pure form of music. Griffons can play piano to compensate, yet they will never match in composition.
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>codeshit project needs to be ready tomorrow
>silly is down
I'm gonna kms
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>>42878646
agh, this isn't working with lmarenaproxy. time to go see if lmarenabridge works.
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>>42878670
cute
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So what's everyone thinking about opus 4.5 so far? It's abit wordy and I'm not sure if I like how it formats. I feel like its better then Sonnet is at keeping facts of the story straight. Less issues with characters bringing up/knowing stuff they wouldn't know from the story so far. Sonnet tends to make all the characters gossip like crazy apparently.
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>>42878737
its a sonnet that knows a lot more, sonnet is still limited when it comes to background characters / exact episode details unlike opus, I see no reason to use anything besides it and gpt 5.1 which also knows as much and imo is actually better for sfw
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>>42876639
https://rentry.org/how2cursor
still works, russian guide, all models
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>>42878737
>opus 4.5 so far
It has more brains but format loops reminds me of 3.7. I like mixing it with other models.
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>>42878836
>It has more brains but format loops reminds me of 3.7. I like mixing it with other models.
Same, I like to switch between it and Gemini 3
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>>42878704
Where did you get your lmarenaproxy script and what is the error that is showing up? desu, I only tested it with lmarenabridge and it still seems to work.
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>size field visible on web ui
>it's empty because it's a folder and retards can't sum up the file sizes
I sure do love not knowing how big the shit I'm downloading is
anyone know how big the G5 brand assets folder is?
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>>42878737
Lots of brains and MLP knowledge. But has the same isms as nu-Sonnet and also >>42878836
One thing I really like about it is that small lines of prefill can change its style and "break" some of its LLM patterns when prefill seemed nerfed since 3.5
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so how come there's no module whatever training for other models besides novelai? apparently that can drastically improve how specialized it is
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>>42878853
they dont have that either, and because training a lora on a gigantic LLM is expensive as fuck for one big enough to matter
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>>42878853
have that either anymore I should say, they did not have it since the super early 7B model days
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>>42878856
really? I remember reading something about allocating some stupidly low number of tokens for training on their wiki
>>42878863
oh that makes more sense
I remember there were custom GPT models available for training too though, right?
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>>42878853
Kill yourself, shill.
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>>42878864
it was always small models on small datasets, to train something like Kimi on all of fimfiction for example would cost in the millions
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>>42878870
I doubt that, because you aren't training the entire model from scratch, you're just jamming some extra tokens at the end
qwen and the like release dozens of models a year these days, they aren't training everything from scratch, they're are training on top of the old ones and deepseek is still using the v3 base
it would be expensive, but nowhere close to millions
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>>42878874
sweet summer child, even mistral large, a model 1/10th the size on a tiny dataset just for style differentiation costs thousands
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>>42878864
>I remember there were custom GPT models available for training too though, right?
The official interface has "custom GPTs" but they are just system prompts and instructions like we have in our front-ends.
You could also finetune GPT-4o. There was a proxymaker that did this on RP logs with scrapped keys and it was called "Fizbo".
I only tested it quickly because back then we had a really, really good version of ChatGPT-4o-latest, and I preferred to go with it.
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>>42878876
please stop interjecting yourself in our conversations and go bait somewhere else
>>42878878
yeah I was talking about the finetunes, if something like that is offered as a mass-service it's not that expensive
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While Silly is down and we can't roleplay, I think this would be a great time to announce that...

/CHAG/ SECRET SANTA IS NOW LIVE!

https://rentry.org/secrethearthswarming

For the first time in /CHAG/ history, it's Secret Hearth's Warming! No need to spend Christmas alone, just join in on the holiday spirit in this festive card exchange, and you can have a gift to look forward to. Now's the time for you to finally ask for that card you've always wanted and to sharpen your own botmaking skills.

>How does this all work?
Sign-ups will open on the 15th of December, and close two days later at midnight UTC. After sign-ups close, entrants will be paired based on their compatibility as indicated on their sign-up forms. Entrants will then be emailed with their assignments, and will have until midnight UTC on Christmas Day to create and deliver their bots. After this, the delivered gifts made for Santees that said "Yes" to Question 4 will be made public on the Rentry.

>Signing Up:
Here's what you'll need to email to HearthsWarming@proton.me to join this year's Secret Hearth's Warming:

>1. What name do you want to go by for this event?
[Note: If you wish to remain anonymous, please say so here. Your Santa will not be told your name and you can gift your bot to your Santee anonymously. However, if you do not deliver a bot to your assigned Santee by 1 January 2026, you will forfeit your right to anonymity and be publicly named as a Grinch.]
>2. Please send a link(s) to previous bots you've made.
[Note: You must have at least one public bot to be eligible to join. You may make a bot during the sign-up period to satisfy this requirement.]
>3. What would you like for Hearth's Warming?
[Note: Feel free to be as broad or as specific as you'd like. Nothing is off limits, but your request should preferably relate in some way to the cards that would normally belong on /chag/. And yes, you can ask for EqG.]
>4. (Yes or No) Would you like the card(s) you are asking for to be made public?
[Note: If you say "Yes," then on Christmas Day it will be made public on this Rentry and your Santa may publicly post it to their Chub/Neocities or in the thread. If you say "No," then your card will be privately emailed to you by HearthsWarming@proton.me on Christmas Day.]
>5. (Optional) What kind of bot would you not want to make?
[Note: Please write down anything you would rather not want to make in a card, and I will try to respect your wishes when assigning pairs. This can include things like gore, certain fetishes, EqG/anthro, NSFW, or even SFW for that matter.]

And that's it! If you send that email before the deadline, you're in! Watch the thread for announcements for when assignments are sent out and make sure to visit the Rentry https://rentry.org/secrethearthswarming to check for deadlines
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>>42878881
what? you were talking about novelai allowing finetuning, I said its prohibitively expensive on any model larger than the 7B sized ones they did before, then I gave you a figure, and the cost goes up quadraticly with size, and then a giant dataset like fimfic...
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>>42878853
There are multiple services that offer exactly that. You can start by stop calling them "modules", like some idiot that only sees the world through the information that NovelAI gives him.
I don't know, wasn't 5 years of text gen being abandoned enough of a hint? Or do you still need your hand held because some asshole on 4chan told you that this random company was your savior?
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>>42878703
yeah its probably the end anon, my claude code api ran out yesterday (which is what i was using to add features to the proxy) so i switched to gemini cli for the one time using gemini 3 to add the deepseek 3.2 and gpt 5.2 models

turns out in the process of it adding the new models it wiped the proxy database and my last backup is from august 4th, im genuinely at a loss rn
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>>42878890
I have literally never used novelai in my life, only read the /aids/ wiki, so I don't care about your schizophrenic crusade
>>42878885
is it prohibitively expensive or is it something you think should be expensive? OpenAI wouldn't be allowing customers access to that for GPT-4o if it cost millions
keep in mind that nothing below 1M$ is prohibitively anything, a single person could pay for that
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rental wise, to train kimi would cost about $60 a hour accounting for everything, but a finetune the size of fimfic would probably forever at about $45k a month, and then of course stuff always fucks and and you lose progress here and there and have to restart at last check points cause nothing is 100% stable...
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>>42878899
and that is a estimate at 32K context, for more good luck
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>>42878894
Not ideal, but can't we use the August 4th database and register anons again with the exact same mail they sent to you, directed to me?
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>>42878896
Yeah, you just thought about a random feature from years ago from a service that you have never used. And you somehow felt the need to tell it to a thread that has nothing to do with it.
Or you're just a shill that wanted to do a post in the line of "only NAI, the savior, was nice enough to give you modules".
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>>42878883
Based

>>42878894
RIP
Thank you for everything
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>>42878894
twas a good run, even if i was too late to join before the email shenanigans started happening
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>>42878903
more than 32k context is totally useless if you're not trying to game benchmarks, most models can barely recall with 80% accuracy after 32k even if they advertise 1 million
32k leaves 1k for system, 5k for lorebooks, and 24k for chat context before you need to summarize
even with current 100k+ context models I never go above 12k chat history
>>42878907
please take your medicine
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>>42878906
>directed to me
Literally who
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>>42878894
So it's over? No more 6pus?

This is the only thing that's been keeping me going, honestly. Fuck me, man.

If there's any way you can bring it back online I'm willing to do anything, like what >>42878906 recommended. But if not... thanks for everything, man. You got me through some hard times.
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>>42878894
ooof. Let that be a lesson for everything that I keep seeing. Never vibecode on the only copy. They work on their own branch without git access
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>>42878894
Good while it lasted. Thanks, Spoon Anon, for the months of fun it allowed me to have.
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>>42878894
lmao why are nocoders like this
why the fuck are you giving agents access to prod
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>>42878883
>While Silly is down and we can't roleplay, I think this would be a great time to announce the Secret Santa
>literally 10 minutes later Silly announces 6pus is dead forever
Oof talk about bad timing but now I do have nothing better to do than work on cards so it's also good timing too
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>>42878894
Fuck... just when I was writing my mail too. It feels like the universe has it out for me. But thanks anyways, you were a good lad.
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>>42878894
First my dog dies, then two weeks later Silly goes too, goddamnit.

When you say the proxy database was wiped, do you mean just the access tokens? Could we just forward our emails with our tokens to your support thing? Or is it the whole thing that you lost?
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>>42878935
Srry abt ur dog dude. Mine died last year and my entire day still gets ruined if it wanders into my mind. Hope ur holding up well
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>>42878883
Idk what I want because usually I try and make cards I want myself but usually they get left half finished
Maybe I'll request one of those card ideas on the wish list but what's the consensus on requesting
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WAIT IT'S BACK

SILLY'S BACK ONLINE
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>>42878935
I'm sorry to hear about your dog anon. It's the reason I don't have any pets today because I'm afraid I'll outlive them. I hope things get better for you and maybe you get something good this holiday too. We're all gonna make it in the end.
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>>42878947
Not for you
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>invalid or expired token
welp, guess I will resend email?
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>>42878935
Sorry for your loss :(
>>42878894
ok fortunately i managed to find a more recent backup from a few weeks ago, and loaded it. basically the proxy dropped back around 3 billion tokens in usage and those who have gotten tokens recently will find their key invalidated, but at least most of them got preserved

if your token doesn't work please contact me IMMEDIATELY, for now if i take a long time to respond you can make a temporary token through /user/captcha if you put in the password "silver spoon <3" (ill remove this once everyone gets their tokens back)
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>>42878935
my sister is a cat lady so I have cremated lots of cats and some dogs
it hurts, but you will never become a better person without pain, also me and my sister's bond is stronger than most families I'm sure
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>>42878941
>>42878951
>>42878955
>>42878957

I appreciate it, you guys. We took him in for a vet checkup cause he wasn't feeling well and as it turns out he'd become diabetic and went into ketoacidosis. We couldn't afford the treatment so we had to put him down- gave him the best five years we could, I like to think.

As dumb as it probably sounds, the goofy pony rps have been helping me process the loss, so I'm really grateful that you got it back online, Silly Anon. Thanks for everything you do, man.
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>>42878955
Glad to hear it, thanks for keeping it going as long as you have.
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>>42878967
pony rps are not ideal but I'm glad to hear that
have you allowed yourself to cry?
cry, it's good to be sincere with yourself
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>>42878955
Suicide averted. Thank you. Thank you so fucking much.
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>>42878670
Which preset are you using?
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>>42878955
IT'S A CHRISTMAS MIRACLE
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>>42878976
Yeah, I bawled like a baby as they put him to sleep. I cried a lot during the week afterwards, too. Kept expecting to hear him barking at anyone who walked by outside- but the grief's gotten... less heavy? It's still there but it's not as debilitating as it was in the immediate aftermath.
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>>42878955
Don't know if you can support the charge or not, but it was posted on /g/
>>>/g/107564302
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even though I'm using one while waiting on the the guys email revoke them I guess
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>>42878990
Tragedy but it is very nice that Spoonie's willing to be so kind, I'm sure because of them it'll have to be taken back but y'know, the fact he's still around at least rocks
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SILLY NO
YOU FORGOT TO DISABLE POW SILLY
SILLYYYYYYY
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>>42878894
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Someone from /aicg/ here. Though I like havin access to other proxies even if it's temporary, I don't think keeping it up would be good. That hell hole is filled with actual spiters whose only goal in life is to ruin keys.
Also post what series I should watch to get into mlp
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>>42878955
I count my fucking lucky stars that I was one of the earliest ones.
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>>42879001
NO YOU FOOL! YOU'VE DOOMED US ALL!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
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>>42878955
Many fall in the face of chaos but not this one! Not today.
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>>42879008
>Also post what series I should watch to get into mlp
Friendship is Magic. Just start from s1e1, friend.
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>>42879008
I mean if you're really interested, you can't really go wrong with starting from Season 1 Episode 1 of Friendship is Magic.
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>>42879008
https://fim.heartshine.gay/?s=1&e=1&res=1080&lo=0
Episodes are in order. Watch 5 to 10 episodes. If you don't like it or don't see an interest, it's probably not for you.
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Scorched earth
Nothing will remain
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>>42879001
>>42879015
What does that mean?
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>>42879040
Pain but also understandable.
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>>42879040
Please tell me this is is a false flag.
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>>>/vg/550252139
>>>/vg/550279942
>>>/vg/550303135
>>>/vg/550304023
Is this true? Why are you murdering anons?
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>>42879040
Fair enough. Do whatever you think is necessary Anon.
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>>42876658
Decided to see what would happen if I prompted it to be estrus season and refused Pinkie's advances
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>>42879054
Kek, did you mix Pinkamena vectors with Ponk?
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>>42878493
I've had Fluttershy negatively respond to my name because it's Hunter ...and it doesn't help that I am indeed one too...
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>>42879040
rip
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>>42879059
I can't communicate to you in words how hilarious that is.
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>>42879048
See >>42878990
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>>42879059
Nominative determinism strikes again...
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>>42879058
Yeah, lol. I oughta do the same with Luna and Moonie now that I'm getting the chance to bring 'Mena out.
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>>42879064
You do not hate /g/ enough. Ever.
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Kek, fun times.
Just wait for things to calm down. We'll have a lot of baits in the meanwhile.
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>>42879040
I'm no technical expert but I'm fairly sure you could just reload that backup again and then turn POW off
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>>42879070
Blame Desufag.
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>>42879075
I blame you
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>>42879076
That won't help you against the trolls who seek to infiltrate and destroy your general.
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>>42879040
Please leak all logs from /aicg/tards k thx bye
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>>42878978
Opus 4.5 with no preset.
I just put picrel in prefill if my own input before was made with a bit of work, or I will put some random sentences or words as a way to start.
>>42879007
It will be a bit lost in the chaos, but cool drawing as always.
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Grim.
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>>42879078
yeah, like you?
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>>42879025
>>42879026
>>42879027
Thanks fren. Will watch it. Been interested in the series but the only content I've consumed of mlps are that mlp VN and the old flash game stuff.
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>>42879085
Moment of truth, here's hoping my key survives.
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>>42879007
Cute.
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>>42879007
I do love our resident artistic bugfucker
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>>42879007
Total bug love



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