String trio editionhttps://youtu.be/wP9WzMLaNo0How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://pastebin.com/NBEp2VFhPrevious: >>122489103
>>122525378That picture has soul
>>122525326I listened to this for the first time yesterday and really liked it. I might give it another listen, actually.
now playingstart of Symphony no. 4:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh2dmfzWEz0&list=OLAK5uy_kK-f8tRMPKy9O2DEgT0owLUm4nEpqs9js&index=1start of Symphony no. 6:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F0V9TuQvG4&list=OLAK5uy_kK-f8tRMPKy9O2DEgT0owLUm4nEpqs9js&index=5https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kK-f8tRMPKy9O2DEgT0owLUm4nEpqs9jsExcited for this one. Really enjoyed the Vaughan Williams symphonies I listened to yesterday, the 2 & 6 from the Handley/LPO recording which was great, and couldn't wait to listen to more as well as re-listen to the 6. Plus this recording has rave reviews.
>>122525378>trio>only players
>>122525460>>122525626I think that Andrew Davis version of the 6th is the best I've heard although the Handley and the Previn are great too.
>>122525740*only two playersreeeeeeee
R.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9QLiefnoDE
>>122525744I added the one you posted, thank you, and yeah I've been meaning to work my way through the Previn/LSO box set for a while now, probably will this week. If you have the time and inclination, I'd be curious to know what you think of the one I just posted above and am listening to right now (though I just got to the final movement of the 4th, so about to start the 6th in a bit), I'm enjoying it so far a lot.
>>122525834retarded?
now playing (Symphony no. 2, op.9, "Antar")https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTG1vaEmaHk&list=OLAK5uy_mwGJdr_lCeC6pr9g4PfbmmW59RKkWqyYU&index=5https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mwGJdr_lCeC6pr9g4PfbmmW59RKkWqyYU
Now Playing- Lebendige Vergangenheit - Rudolf Ritterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pD0b59Sw3U&list=OLAK5uy_mubCqTIAmfVJd3UbhLgB27L1b7eR79hOc&index=15
The guys talking about Schoenberg soundng AI generated have a point. The first time I watched the fully AI Toys R Us commercial it creeped me out at a visceral level. Now I've watched it for the second time and I don't feel nearly as disturbed by it.
now playing MyaskovskySlavonic Rhapsody, op 71 (Svetlanov):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKOJI04MVPA&list=OLAK5uy_kJklkZxQGO34PUINStUX2FBhFYUh_rX70&index=2start of Symphony no. 6, op. 23 (Kondrashin):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpXrZ_5FT9o&list=OLAK5uy_kJklkZxQGO34PUINStUX2FBhFYUh_rX70&index=3https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kJklkZxQGO34PUINStUX2FBhFYUh_rX70Anyone here familiar with this 20th century Russian composer Myaskovsky? Never heard of him before and happened upon his works purely by chance, and when looking at what work to start with I saw his Symphony no. 6 was highly regarded by the few familiar with it. He was a contemporary of Shostakovich and Prokofiev, and apparently was close friends with the latter. I also added a complete set of his string quartets, recorded by the Taneyev Quartet, of which there are 13, as well as a recording of his two cello sonatas and cello concerto.
>>122527052He's a bit dry and socialist realist for me but some people rate him.
Fuck. Mendelssohn's cocnerto is so good.
>>122527268>mendelssohn fan likes hahnPottery.
>>122527497Anyone who doesn't clearly lacks taste.
>>122527497I love Mendelssohn and don't like Hahn very much.
>>122527512Robert Schumann once complained to me at Dresden that he could not enjoy the Ninth Symphony at the Leipzig Gewandhaus concerts because of the quick tempi Mendelssohn chose to take, particularly in the first movement. I have, myself, only once been present at a rehearsal of one of Beethoven's Symphonies, when Mendelssohn conducted; the rehearsal took place at Berlin, and the Symphony was No. 8 (in F major). I noticed that he chose a detail here and there--almost at random--and worked at it with a certain obstinacy, until it stood forth clearly. This was so manifestly to the advantage of the detail that I could not but wonder why he did not take similar pains with other nuances. For the rest, this incomparably bright symphony was rendered in a remarkably smooth and genial manner. Mendelssohn himself once remarked to me, with regard to conducting, that he thought most harm was done by taking a tempo too slow; and that on the contrary, he always recommended quick tempi as being less detrimental. Really good execution, he thought, was at all times a rare thing, but short-comings might be disguised if care was taken that they should not appear very prominent; and the best way to do this was "to get over the ground quickly." This can hardly have been a casual view, accidentally mentioned in conversation. The master's pupils must have received further and more detailed instruction; for, subsequently, I have, on various occasions, noticed the consequences of that maxim "take quick tempi," and have, I think, discovered the reasons which may have led to its adoption.
>>122527897I remembered it well, when I came to lead the orchestra of the Philharmonic Society in London, 1855. Mendelssohn had conducted the concerts during several seasons, and the tradition of his readings was carefully preserved. It appears likely that the habits and peculiarities of the Philharmonic Society suggested to Mendelssohn his favourite style of performance (Vortragsweise)--certainly it was admirably adapted to meet their wants. An unusual amount of instrumental music is consumed at these concerts; but, as a rule, each piece is rehearsed once only. Thus in many instances, I could not avoid letting the orchestra follow its traditions, and so I became acquainted with a style of performance which called up a lively recollection of Mendelssohn's remarks.The music gushed forth like water from a fountain; there was no arresting it, and every Allegro ended as an undeniable Presto. It was troublesome and difficult to interfere; for when correct tempi and proper modifications of these were taken the defects of style which the flood had carried along or concealed became painfully apparent. The orchestra generally played mezzoforte; no real forte, no real piano was attained. Of course, in important cases I took care to enforce the reading I thought the true one, and to insist upon the right tempo. The excellent musicians did not object to this; on the contrary, they showed themselves sincerely glad of it; the public also approved, but the critics were annoyed and continued so to browbeat the directors of the society that the latter actually requested me to permit the second movement of Mozart's Symphony in E flat to be played in the flabby and colourless way (ruschlich herunter spielen) they had been accustomed to--and which, they said, even Mendelssohn himself had sanctioned.
>>122527904I have often been astonished at the singularly slight sense for tempo and execution evinced by leading musicians. I found it impossible, for instance, to communicate to Mendelssohn what I felt to be a perverse piece of negligence with regard to the tempo of the third movement in Beethoven's Symphony in F major, No. 8. This is one of the instances I have chosen out of many to throw light upon certain dubious aspects of music amongst us.Now, the late Capellmeister Reissiger, of Dresden, once conducted this symphony there, and I happened to be present at the performance together with Mendelssohn; we talked about the dilemma just described, and its proper solution; concerning which I told Mendelssohn that I believed I had convinced Reissiger, who had promised that he would take the tempo slower than usual. Mendelssohn perfectly agreed with me. We listened. The third movement began and I was terrified on hearing precisely the old Landler tempo; but before I could give vent to my annoyance Mendelssohn smiled, and pleasantly nodded his head, as if to say "now it's all right! Bravo!" So my terror changed to astonishment. Reissiger, for reasons which I shall discuss presently, may not have been so very much to blame for persisting in the old tempo; but Mendelssohn's indifference, with regard to this queer artistic contretemps, raised doubts in my mind whether he saw any distinction and difference in the case at all. I fancied myself standing before an abyss of superficiality, a veritable void.
Hahn is objectively the greatest violinist alive today.
>>122527972so?
>>122527897>Mendelssohn himself once remarked to me, with regard to conducting, that he thought most harm was done by taking a tempo too slow; and that on the contrary, he always recommended quick tempi as being less detrimental. Really good execution, he thought, was at all times a rare thing, but short-comings might be disguised if care was taken that they should not appear very prominent; and the best way to do this was "to get over the ground quickly."what a fucking hack lmao
>>122527999So I am happy we got to live in the same era as Hahn.
I really love Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker (probably because I used to listen to it in a Tom & Jerry film when I was a kid) and Vivaldi's Four Seasons. I listen to some pieces from time to time but rarely get to really like symphonies (maybe because I don't really like much when the music varies from being played very quiet to very loud, don't know). What else should I like? I also like Bach's Ciaccona and Toccata and Fugue.
>>122528047not sure how that's relevant since you're never gonna meet her so she might as well have recorded everything she did and died 10 years ago to no effective difference
>>122528080Listen to more Russian music. Try Rachmaninoff's Concerto 2, Tchaikovsky's Concerto 2 and Symphony 6
>>122528122>>122528164Thanks for the recs, will be doing so. It would be funny to into Russian composers since I usually read a lot of Russian fiction like Turgenev and Tchekhov. Should I listen to a particular recording or can I just search on Spotify and pick whatever one?
Bartok is a wonderful palate cleanser, now playinghttps://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nyd8oCrzt_RtZuWboRf9S7S-0ddvpNHA0
>>122528178For Rachmaninoff's second concerto there are tons, Ashkenazy, Cliburn, Rubinstein, Richter, Wang - all good. If you don't like one recording listen to another. Rach's 3rd concerto is also great.
I don't understand the Bach chorale cataloguing systems. Which edition should I learn them from
>>122525378>string trio>posts duo
>>122528183man wtf is the second movement of the first one
bach is by and for people who believe music is something that has to be feared and conquered by reasonwagner correctly understood that music is the ultimate expression of man's will, further the only true expression of man's will, insofar as only men can perceive and feel music in nature
>Bach and Wagner, who apparently have radical differences, are the musicians who basically resemble each other the most. Not as musical architecture, but as a substratum of sensibility. Are there two creators in the history of music who have expressed more widely and completely the indefinable state of languor? The fact that in the first it is divine and in the second erotic, or that one condenses the languor of his soul into a sound construction of absolute rigor and the other dilates his soul with a music of prolonged modulations, does not at all invalidate the fact that both have a deep sensitivity in common. With Bach, one is no longer in the world because of God; and with Wagner, because of love. The important thing is that both are decadent, that both tear life apart with a kind of negative impetus, both invite us to die outside of ourselves. And none of them can be understood except in weariness, in vital nothingness, in the joys of annihilation. Neither one nor the other can serve as an antidote to the temptation of not being.
Do wagnersisters just have opera music playing in the background all day or do they just listen to the instrumental parts on repeat?
"The Dionysian Truth About The World" is captured in the first 30 seconds of this masterpiece!https://youtu.be/NsCQj0GJ1K8
Now Playing - Bach, Mozart, Schubert & Schumann: Works for Pianohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOGtBWuOzYA&list=OLAK5uy_lJiJssS7A7JOQxFUNc6JDGGhVc1OdU-p8&index=18
>>122529994oh my
>>122529994Awful recording, Stokowski ruins it with his sappy orchestration changes and conducting. Makes it sound like overly simplistic movie music for retards.
Mozarthttps://youtu.be/9CUoVy2HKtE
>>122530038With few exceptions, I don't normally listen to piano transcriptions but this was great, love Kempff, and it's truly a testament to Bach's genius virtually all of his works sound wonderful when played as a piano arrangement.
How do I get into Mozart piano concertos?
>>122530038Am I falling for an artificial cultural association, or is Bach's music really much more expressive than any other Baroque composer?
>>122533428I'm not sure expressive is a word I'd associate with Bach, and I like Bach
What manner of classical music shall this fine and dandy young man indulge in?
>>122533419I love the 20th in D minor
now playing (Mass no. 5, D.678)start of Mass no. 5 - Kyriehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie7xD_FLPF4&list=OLAK5uy_mk8NwSnkEMR69aGKTTHkIeYiJZDeGE29o&index=1check out the next part too - Gloria:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06CSoFzG_F0&list=OLAK5uy_mk8NwSnkEMR69aGKTTHkIeYiJZDeGE29o&index=2https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mk8NwSnkEMR69aGKTTHkIeYiJZDeGE29oSchubert's Masses are extraordinary, I'm always baffled when I see just how little recognition and acclaim they receive relative to their quality, at least when looking at the pitifully few number of recordings, lack of discussion on forums and reviews and blogs, scarce number of views and plays on music sites, and very minimal wikipedia articles. And yet, despite no. 5 and 6 being masterpieces already, I bet if he had lived longer he would have ended up producing a work that would unquestionably have ranked as one of the greatest of the greats of choral music Oh well.
Thank you Haydn.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar4LVTO7rnQ
>>122533419How do you not?
>>122534310https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIvWjI4PrJw
>>122535576the issue is threefold:a): schubert is known primarily as a composer of symphonies, chamber music and lieder. his very small body of choral work (at least by his standards) is totally overshadowed by this, much like how his chamber music was totally overshadowed by his lieder in his lifetime. b): choral music in the classical era doesn’t really get much attention aside from mozart’s requiem and maybe the c minor mass and the missa solemnis. how many haydn masses can you name off the top of your head? and did you realize that i was referring to michael haydn, the most preeminent composer of sacred choral music in the classical era? you probably didn’t. c): schubert is essentially competing with>bach’s mass in b minor>beethoven’s missa solemnis>mozart’s c minor mass>all of joseph haydn’s and michael haydn’s massesand against them he doesn’t really stack up. he’s just not a very good contrapuntist, which is really the benchmark against which choral music is set. perhaps there might have been some room for an expressively melodic setting of the mass in a way only schubert could achieve, but it’s not something he ever pursued, so as is, his body of sacred music leaves us wanting.
schubert is shit
>>122536143insane ramblings
>>122527913>I fancied myself standing before an abyss of superficiality, a veritable void.the irony
>>122536116iirc Bruckner's masses were partly modelled off Schubert's.
>>122525378Where can I download classical music in high quality? I remember there was a thread on /t/ but it's gone now.
>>122536106I was hoping someone would give me a very hot and sensual recording of Chopin's nocturnes, but I guess Haydn is adequate.
>>122536585who cares about bruckner’s masses? even the te deum is more popular.
>>122527052>that picture Kill yourself faggot
>>122537007https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqnx5IBkXUgk
>>122537095What? Why?
>>122534310Bateman hates classical. That is part of his whole character, hating anything non-mainstream. If you had to twist my arm, Bolero
Stenhammarhttps://youtu.be/GuJ4H0TNIy4
Rossi, Marini, Merula, Legrenzi, Cazzati, G. B. Vitali, Bassani, Corelli, Torelli, A. Veracini, T. A. Vitali, Geminiani, Somis, Caldara, Albinoni, dall'Abaco, Vivaldi, F. M. Veracini, Tartini, Locatelli, Sammartini, Pergolesi, Nardini, Pugnani, Viotti, Boccherini.There's so many. Who do you like?
>>122537617But surely yuppies have an occasion to appear sophisticated
>>122538114The list goes on
>>122538232Grazioli, Rutini, Galuppi, Sacchini, Paradisi ...
>>122538251Paganini
>>122538114Never heard of or listened to any of these shitalians
>>122538444Working through their insipid music makes you appreciate J. S. Bach's brilliance all the more.
Wieland der Schmied
>>122538497Who?
Anyway,Peri, Caccini, de Cavalieri, Landi, M. Rossi, L. Rossi, Mazzochi, Marazzoli, Monteverdi, da Gagliano, Manelli, Ferrari, Cavalli, Cesti, M. A. Ziani, P. A. Ziani, Lotti, Stradella, G. B. Bononcini, M. A. Bononcini, A. Scarlatti, Vinci, Leo, Feo ...
How could I forgetAllegri, Benevoli, Abbatini, Durante, Paisiello, Jommelli, Duni, Piccinni, Terradellas, Logroscino, Guglielmi, d'Astorga.
>>122538708>>122538750You never even listen to these.
>>122538760I've heard Allegri (that one famous piece), Monteverdi (obviously), Scarlatti (both the father and the son) ... maybe some fragments of Stradella, Paisiello, Jommelli ...I'm not claiming to have heard all these Italian composers from between 1600-1800 either, just trying to find out what is worth hearing
>>122538708Paganini
>>122538811I'm posting Italian composers active between 1600-1800, basically "baroque". Paganini was more a 19th-century composer.
>>122538827Italy did not exist then
>>122538867Italians did exist though.
>>122538898No
>>122538867Retard. Not "officially" but the culture, music, history it all existed and later unified the nation.
>>122538911lol
>The concept of Italia and the equivalent of "Italian" (such as Italic or Italiote) have existed since ancient times>The borders of Roman Italy, Italia, are better established. Cato's Origines describes Italy as the entire peninsula south of the Alps.[78] In 264 BC, Roman Italy extended from the Arno and Rubicon rivers of the centre-north to the entire south
really why do we have to elevate all these mediocrities like schubert, mendelssohn, mahler, schumann, meyerbeer, offenbach etc...this is the worst part of american conservatives of which there are many
why do we have to suffer all these sub-par posts?
i mean fundamentally, why do you think anyone gives a shit about your mahler recordings, or about mahler at all?
>the same guy is still sperging about mahler and americanslmfao
>>122539084>Schubert, Mendelssohn, Schumann>mediocritiesYou're fucking retarded.
what's the difference between a Tuba and a euphoniium? Is there one or is it just a marketing term?
do tranime trooner cumbrains really
>>122539700A euphonium can be described as a tenor tuba but they are still different instruments, in the same way that oboe d'amore and cor anglais can be described as mezzo-soprano and alto oboes. I wouldn't call them 'marketing terms' which implies they were given these names to sell or something. They are more like instruments in the same family, closer to each other than a tuba is to a trumpet or an oboe to a flute.
>>122540134No idea who is she but probably Rachmaninoff.
pornbrained nonce alert
>>122540134Does Azunyan play flute? I don't remember that. Anyway her parents are jazz musicians so she probably likes early modern composers like Ravel, Debussy, Stravinsky, Gershwin, etc.
jazz etude no 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxtmQ48GBhw
no 3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eH93FFMY4I
Beethovenhttps://youtu.be/WrNmoI1yBVo
>>122540550Jazz is a form of classical
mahler is a total mediocrity
>>122540615Mahler? More like..........meh-ler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B0CyOAO8y0
>>122540687Look at him stomp and shout!
Cecilia Immergreen, the newly debuted HoloEN VTuber, is a German violinist and musician who enjoys classical, and today she named Prokofiev as a favourite composer and highlighted this piece as a work she enjoys:https://youtu.be/3jF94x0OjlEWhat do we think of her, everyone?
>>122540615Alma Mahler: >honey, it's time to morph into something new! stay true to your jewish roots!>yes honey...>*morphs into whatever he feels like ripping off*
>>122541092Stealing, blindly mimicking, gladhanding the latest Viennese fad, causing an almighty racket - all thoroughly kosher for MEHler
>you know what I say a shiksa is just a songbird in search of a cage
Has Yuja Wang ever played Air On The G String?
>>122541092Do you have a bigger version of this I can't read it
>>122525626Always lovely to see Vaughan Williams appreciation. The Norfolk rhapsodies are good too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk5p-BPM1ao
>>122541204She's a pianist, dummy.
>>122541291Yes, a huge one.
Troops of brainwashed string trio lesbian girls vibrating on fire falls filling rivers of cloud hail basketballs like sexo down to schizo pleb fucks. Mozartean Hatred abound anointing sky brightly fine among retard anime whores fighting infighting inwards surrounding religion
>>122541432What are you using to generate these
fake Italian music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u99f9RAvwu4
>>122541212>Wagner>Liszt>Meyerbeer>Schubert>Beethoven>Folk music (?)
>>122541600Prove that it isn't
>>122541635Not proof
I'm not entirely convinced sisterposter, the original W poster, and listeneranon aren't all the same person
>>122541828They are not.
>>122525378https://youtu.be/FOCucJw7iT8?si=D58Nko-K53hN3IWN
>>122541849Well listeranon seems fairly indifferent to Wagner so they'd have to be very good at staying in character if they're the same, but it's pretty fucking sus how ride or die he is for the sisterposter when they couldn't be more opposed in temperament
>>122541828Listeranon doesn't even post anymore, and W poster probably died of old age at his local Opera.
>>122541949Not proof sorry, I take it you do consider Jazz and Classical as the same then?
>>122541938It was probably Siegfried's Funeral March that gave him a heart attack
>>122541965Citation Needed
>>122542029Not proof
>>122542039No proof has been provided
Sigh, somehow, sisterposter has returnedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCLDpf-0Eno
>>122541495You got it
>>122527972call me when he's up to paganini's level
>>122542087Hahn is a beautiful woman chud
>>122540550>>122540581>>122541600>>122541626>>122541635>>122541641>>122541949>>122541961>>122541965>>122541992>>122542029>>122542036>>122542039>>122542047holy shit you two faggotshere's some classical jazz now fucking jump off a bridge together https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH2PH0auTUU
lol she just can't help herself from spammingserious mental illness
what are some truly weird interpretations of piecesi mean electronics, bizarre orchestration, anything
>>122542144Well Maxiamano Cobra slows everything down to a comically turgid pace.
>>122542144I don't know if it's that weird but Tomita did amazing Moog versions of classical pieces,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKZPfR8CwFg
>>122542144Wendy Carlos and Isao Tomita are two artists who've arranged classical pieces for electronics.Chick Corea once recorded Mozart's Piano Concerto No. 24 with a jazz-like interpretation and his own cadenza although the whole piece isn't reharmonised for jazz.
>>122542154so i listened to the first few seconds of his 9thwtfwhyis this this guy's vanity project?
>>122542144https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r3cZ-Sa4Cs&list=OLAK5uy_ld9gbhTxBURj_RYMdd_UD3kFWV_RYPFYs&index=7after paganinis moto perpetuo
>>122542144anything HIP usually sounds disgustingly out of tune and has sickeningly sharp and screechy timbres in the strings and brass>>122542192double beat mental illness
>>122542217What about your favourite, Wim Winters?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hQzG-CATQM
>>122542192>video lasts two hourswtf
>>122542233yes, that would count as double beat mental illness
>>122542119You don't think Gershwin is classical?
>>122542295Not sistersister, but well, no. He was jewish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6hb5eVJ388&list=OLAK5uy_lLKby2QhO97C9cKElMmGIClYs-9R2hHmA&index=8kino
>>122542295not wignat sister, but no. he’s jazz
>>122542295while rhapsody in blue is generally considered classical it's actually jazz, that's why i posted it before to shut up the two fags
>>122542295no, he's shit
>>122542217>out of tuneyou mean properly tunedA=440Hz is a mental illness
>>122542307>prelude>fugue>prelude>fugue Was it autism?
mehler shucking and jiving
>>122542357t. relative pitchlet
>>122542459glad to know Bach and Mozart were "relative pitchlets"
>>122542493had they been alive when A=440hz was invented, they would probably have preferred it or not particularly cared either way.
>>122542501delusional coping
>>122542517>bach and mozart were obsessive spergs who care about neurotic adherence to a false semblance of historical accuracy like me!speaking of delusional coping
>>122542585
>>122542594Nice post you made.
Gawrshwin is good enough for Hurrwitz, he's good enough for me
>>122542647It's your post and I wanted you to see it here, because you actually came back here
>>122542706You have got to stop shitting up the thread with your obsession with the sisterposter.
Gershwin isn't jazz you fucking imbeciles And jazz IS A CLASSICAAAAAL STYLE OF MUSIC ANYWAY
>>122542863nopenope
Schoenberg was such a histrionic retard
>>122542725he is mentally ill, he cannot help himself>>122542863both hilariously false
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fuck off back to /metal/, hector.
>>122543113hector? He's not here is he?
Reading Wagner's essays has made me think less of German music
The best classical? No worries, /classical/, let me educate youVivaldi's Four Seasons (ringtone)Fur EliseMoonlight SonataMozart's Requiem (he predicted his own death wtf?)The Dracula Theme by BachThank you for reading, I'll now take any questions you have about classical music and the Western canon
>>122543963unironically a more intelligent post than anything hector has ever posted
starting my uboat game, classical for this feel?
>>122543418What essays were they? Did any other composers write essays?
>>122544393water music obviously
>jazz is improvised>Gershwin is performed to the letter>Gershwin is jazz >Jazz is not a classical style of musicYour brain on /class/
>>122544393We Sail the Ocean Blue from H.M.S. Pinafore.
>>122544538more like garwshwinbecause you have to be a pothead to listen to it
>>122544538improvisation or otherwise is not what make something classical, else bach, mozart, beethoven, brahms, bruckner, and every other composer who was also an adept improviser would not be classical.
>>122544538in theory i wouldn't be opposed to gershwin being posted here, but it'd incite so many arguments that'd make the war of the romantics look tame it isn't worth it
>>122534310Who is the Phil Collins of classical music?
dead threaddead genre
>>122542144I'd say playing Marriage of Figaro on an organ countshttps://youtu.be/FUT5hG8lgKQ
So I heard Handel's Sarabande for the first time and now I realise Handel is actually goodWhat is the essential Handel
>>122548408Organ ConcertosThe MessiahGiulio CesareXerxesKeyboard Suites
>>122548408https://youtu.be/nnyyww1M0sU?si=nIAU2yIZU5n9TtZh
un vero asino in musica
W.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMn9fObPH7g
>>122545382Definitely someone who experimented with drums. Now who could it be?
W.https://youtu.be/r75s8q56eYc?si=PwwxoaSPl8wmp1kd&t=247
which composers fucked the most?
>>122549647Am I the only one who soiled himself during this bit?"What sweet and blissful trembling comes over us""What blessed power holds us spellbound""How fair and noble to behold is he, whom such a miracle brought ashore"The singers are performing perfectly. Both the masculine and feminine expressions are balanced and harmonized. Such perfect coordination of voices makes it seem as if the sound itself is having sex in the air.
Wagner, the only composer who gave sound a phallus and vulva.
>>122549667J. S. Bach
>>122549725*a phallus and a neovagina
>>122549667JS Bach. He had like 20 children, although 10 of them died. He bred like a rabbit.
>>122544393Echoes by Pink Floyd
>>122549703I was overcame with a profound dilation of the soul
>>122550350>20 kids>Is a lot To you maybe LMAO
>>122551483Imbecilic post.Average birthrate in Germany today is 1.8 children per woman. Even in 18th century it was much MUCH less than 20, presumably from 6 to 8 and that is because infant mortality was very high.
What are some of the best historically accurate performances?
>>122551867>historically accurateno such thing. even the HIPsters were lucid enough to realize this, hence they changed the name of their ideology from Historically Accurate to Historically Informed early on
>>122551806>18th centuryLMFAO
>>122551867Malcom bilsons set of Beethoven sonatas >>122551916Severe pleb disease recovery unlikely
>>122549667Bach and Wagner were notorious for italso not a composer but Lorenzo da Ponte, who wrote the text to 3 of Mozart's most famous operas and was a friend of his, was also a huge horndog in his youth.
>>122551483wut
>>122551867Tetsuro Hanai's recording of Josquin's masses.
Classical AOTY dropped.
>>122552339What's funny you uneducated imbecile?
>>122551916hector, please
Gavriil Popov - Symphony No.1 (1928-34)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz13SglnxEI
>>122552355lol, lmao, rofl even>>122552587not /classical/>>122552632what sort of unprecedented foolishness is this
are any of these good (as in: good performances, good selection of pieces)? I'm ordering something else from this store so I figured I'd see what else they had. I have a passing interest in classical so I'm not familiar with most of the pieces etc; just looking for some comfy impressionist shit.https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/3026358940https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/3023576960https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/3004909223https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/2802854419https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/3039488626
>>122553154the bussy sucks cock
>>122553246Appalling opinion sister
>>122553442appalling cocksucking bussy
>>122553498Juvenile insults
>>122553154Debussy may just be the Goat
>>122553552juvenile like the bussy’s music?>>122553843the goat glizzy guzzler, yes.
>>122553855>juvenile like the bussy’s music?I knew you were going to say that, go home hector
>>122553873>hectori knew you were going to say that, go home hector.
>>122553887No you didn't. whereas I actually did know you were going to say that
>there's four different Straussso which one is the good one
>>122553154That Arabesque No 1 might be a smidge too fast for my liking
>>122549725i honestly don't find anything erotic about wagner's musicbut mozart has made me horny before particularly concerto 20
>>122553917no you didn’t, whereas i actually did really know you were definitely going to say that
>>122554241Settle down, hector
debussy is good and cool
>>122554266chill out, hector>>122554287the bussy is gay and faggy
I've been watching a lot of organists on Youtube the last few days and I've noticed they'll usually have a few pop or rock songs for clickbait, but those songs often have noticeably fewer views than the classical standards, some of which are surprisingly inaccessible pieces too.Maybe the average person likes art music more than they're given credit for?
>>122543963The real Dracula piece is Swan Lake although it might just be a generic Universal piece since it's at the start of other Universal horror films
>>122554713I don't think there's even a Dracula film that leads with BWV 565, although I'm not a film person so don't hold me to that
>>122555025I'm pretty sure you're right, if there are it's parodying a non existent trope.
>>122553921all of themhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q30AYUTnfSQ
>big nasty Bach organ opus, scary, minor, loud>it's suddenly all made okay by a single major chord as the coda "It's okay baby, see, it's a happy ending"This is some Exorcist shit
>>122553921Claude Levi Strauss
>>122556118Nigga gets scared of Bach lol. If you were talking Schoenberg I might understand.
>>122556153I get scared by the thought there's people who genuinely enjoy Schoenberg
>>122556118are you talking about the picardy third?
>>122556197Of course he is
I fucking love Mozart so much. Recently been listening to the 41st every day.>>122556171cringe
>>122556256I do cringe at the thought of people pretending to listen to that Shitsperg tripe, thank you that is the word I was thinking of.
>>122556266tonalbabby speak
>>122556271hector refrain from posting
>>122556197>>122556240I actually copped a cheap CD of basic organ works by E. Power Biggs I think (very fitting name for our organist) and the idea seems to apply to each section of each two-section work. >>122556153Bach is scary! That's the whole fun of it, at least for the organ works.
>>122556344Some of those pipes will make you poo yourself, probably
>>122556256>>122556171He is at the very least a master musical con artist>Repeats material in various guises giving the impression of harmonic and developmental cohesion.>Follows tried and true forms roughly >Ends in major codas or just chords giving a sense of resolution>Has plenty of varied textures giving a sense of propulsion missing from other atonal composers like Babbitt
>>122556153I suppose that's all Schoenberg is really good for, spooky horror music in films
Is there any list of recommended recordings for Bach cantatas?
>>122556602No
Who's the nigga on the left? Seiji Ozawa?
>>122556802soijaking retards
>>122556875Seems everyone on YouTube has to do this, the bots really love it.
>>122556944yeah I hate it,
>>122556988Well this guy is the king of clickbait
>>122557003True and I don't actually watch that guy, but even channels I like do it, or I have to look at it while searching for something-everything about modern Youtube is so bad, especially the results you get from searches
Bizethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J5Udakj5vM&list=OLAK5uy_nki-XK_7mX0ZSMihUo-ak1q4F8rc6HxB4
>>122556875I avoid anything that has an over the top expression on the thumbnail, but I wanna know who the asian is.
Anymore like this?
>>122557297Oh right that's Eddy Chen from twoset violin
>>122557343The conductor -__-
i dont listen to anything with asian soloists/conductors/etc lolsorry not sorry
Contrasting views on "Shacking Up with Chopin"Anti:>This release by RCA suggests that Chopin's music should be taken beyond desert and into the post-prandial activities. However, I can not agree with this judgement and believe (for a number of reasons) that it would be highly unsuitable for `shacking up'. In fact, I would even say that this music, with it's beautiful melodies and interesting harmonies and subtleties of colour, could actually distract one from the pressing task at hand. (Not very `romantic' I'm sure you'd agree). However, there are other more fundamental reasons for my opinion. `Shacking up' music should be tender yet strong, with a strong rhythmic (even metronomic) drive .. it should be of suitable length (4 minutes for the Fantasie Impromptu?!?!) .. and conclude with a bang! Unfortunately, the music on this disk simply does not fit the bill. Certainly, there are climaxes, and they are beautiful, moving and subtle, but they rarely last beyond a few seconds and usually come .. too soon. The rhythms in these compositions (while they can be strong and evocative) have the tendency at times to be whimsical .. and rubato certainly doesn't help. Finally, duration is a problem. While many of Chopin's works are pure gems, even 3 minutes of a great Mazurka (say) would, as a guess, be unsatisfying for most. In summary, I would not suggest getting this disk.Pro:>Since I had a willing partner, we decided to explore the Chopin disk and let things flow. The music was delightful as was the time spent together. Beginning with "Romance" and three Nocturnes, it builds up to a rhapsodic "Ballade no. 1" and the still more dynamic "Revolutionary", before bring you back to a gentle lullaby and a waltz "L'Adieu". I admit to not paying attention to all the music this time, so I played it again later, while alone.Try for yourself and post your findings! ;)
>>122557470Personally I prefer Wangs Out for Wagner
Mahlerhttps://youtu.be/5Bvrx3FEK9s
I don't enjoy any of Mahler's symphonies except for the vocal parts. I only enjoy Mahler's vocal music.
>>122558293pleb
>>122558293patrician
>>122553154Debussy's preludes by Michelangeli are good. Get those.
>>122558419I'm sorry but I have respect for the logic of form in symphonic structures, and Mahler's crazy, overwhelming, neurotic programmaticism has no place in the symphony. This is why I prefer Bruckner.
>>122558493if you cannot comprehend form in mahler (at least from the fourth symphony onwards) then you have no real comprehension of form, only formula.
>>122558497Do you think using form is equivalent to respecting the logic of form? Are you retarded? I can shit out the most 'progressive', unusual, unheard of sonata form you've ever seen, does that mean it's GOOD? Or that it's good in the context of a symphony? You have no real comprehension of music, at the most fundamental level, because you don't even understand what form is used for and why someone would criticise a composer's use of a form.
How many and which Chopin Études can you play, anon?
Schumann - Carnaval op.9https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22Uozp_5JiQWhat are your favorite/best Schumann pieces?
>>122559879Piano quartetViolin sonata 2DichterliebeGesange der Frühe
>>122560419Thanks anon
How long would it take me to learn to play this if I start to learn the piano at 37?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqrusoQ6xVM
>>122557470Kek, the first one sounds like a virgin
>>122557219More like bidet
>>122558762none of the things you strawmanned are anything close to what i was implying. mahler’s forms are coherent and logical, regardless of how unconventional they may be, and your inability to hear this is proof that you don’t actually understand formal logic.
>>122561485>proof that you don’t actually understand formal logic.What would music communicate about and or or and functions?
>>122561542bait used to be believable
>>122558488thanks fren and checked
>>122560875Ofcourse you can. I learnt it when I was 15. It does make my fingers get extremely sore especially at that trill. Its like my body does not tolerate playing anything but Wagner. His transcriptions are like heroin for my body.
>>12256205215 is like ten years before your brain fully formed, it's not at all comparable to 37
>>122562182That enough! Vile mendicants such as yourself are unworthy of even approaching the piano, let alone gracing its keys. Keep your jewish fingers far from its divine elegance! Don't even bother making another excuse jew, just stay away from music. Take to banking.
Who do I study to learn JS Bach's influence? Obviously Palestrina and Buxtehude, but who else?Also are there any specific pieces of Palestrina, The Bux, or anyone else?
what's your favourite classical instrument? mine's cello
>>122562411What? You're insane. I'm not discouraging him. I'm saying you're like the Chad saying he didn't start having sex until he got turned 19. It's basically bragging and you suck. Why anyone would want to ay a piece of crap like La Campanella is beyond me though.
>>122562818Wagner Tuba. Highly underrated. Maybe Celesta tho.
A majority of my motivation to learn to read soprano clef, alto clef, tenor clef, etc is out of spite that AI can read it better than I can.
>>122563982AI? buddy, a machine without machine learning can read clefs or even text at an infinitely faster pace than any human can. what a bizarrely irrelevant motivation.
>>122564031Whatever you want to call it, I will beat the machines.
>>122564068delusional
>>122564068the average word processing software can probably read a couple thousand words per second so have fun with that.
>>122557470Bumming to Brahms
>>122558762I bet this is the sister poster
>>122562827Peasant
>>122564377tell me more about what you think the bogeyman in your closet does
>>122564412The only hard pieces worth learning are contrapuntal; trilling notes an octave apart or playing glissando is just "virtuososlop" for normies to ooh and aah at. The best hard pieces are the ones normies think are easy.
>>122557470Holy cringe. How does anyone take this seriously
>>122564377No, he loves Mahler and Schoenberg
>>122557470The first guy has never had sex
>>122564453This is just cope though- you’re acting like it’s actually secretly easy when it isn’t and it’s beautiful
>>122564468He loves Schoenberg? So he’s an opinionated shitposter who also has bad taste?
>>122564497>virtuososlop>beautifullmao
>>122564653NTA but Rach is beautiful no matter how much you cope.
>>122564653Just you’ve come up with a cute term for it, doesn’t mean it isn’t you autist
>>122564687>>122564703>emotionally dishonest slaveslop vomit>beautifulLOL
>>122564497This might be the most insane post in the whole thread. The problem isn't that it's secretly easy but rather because it's tacky. All I said is running kreuger normies think a six part fugue is easy I know this because my dad had the gall to say such a thing. Fugues of course are tasteful though.
>>122564687I couldn't imagine being moved by late night Cinemax music.
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