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Dan "The Man" Swanö edition
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FAQ: https://pastebin.com/vHeAR1Bt
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FIRST FOR PETER STEELE
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ONE
TWO
THREE
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I DON'T WANNA LIVE NO MORE
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Immolation - Here in After
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I wish it were January again.
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>>122546808
people unironically do this shit?
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Miss this nigga every day.
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Chris Barnes is a pussy
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>>122546858
Chris Barnes owes me $50,000
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>>122546766
Still blasting
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>>122546861
That's somehow even worse.
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>>122546808
>>122546861
Neither is surprising. I was under impression there should be a disconnect between the two to make it a meme, not just depicting the main audience
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no one gives a shit you retard
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Solitude Aeturnus
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>>122546968
darkhorse of the discography, but captures that edgy mid-90's tone perfectly
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>>122546981
i like their first two albums
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metal is so shit lol
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who is your favorite metal guitarist?
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>>122547042
ace frehly
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>>122547042
HH
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>>122547042
Currently this guy because the shit he wrote is challenging but fun to play. Which is my only benchmark for guitarists desu.
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New Hail Spirit Noir is pretty good

At least my shithole town is good for something
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Imagine feeling "guilty" when you post music on music board, let alone anything on 4chan (especially today) like this anon here>>122546303
A sad state of low T. plebbit tourism I'm afraid.
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>>122547225
>shit tier post with shit tier girl
thank you for this very high quality post that contributes to the thread's discussion about metal music, anon
Here's a badge, you earned it
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imagine posting metal lol

did infernal gorefuckium bloodmartyr release their new archangel exsanguination lp?

who fucking cares LOL
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>>122547225
I feel like you missed the fucking point there retard. I don't feel guilty of it at all, just if the "crime" was "shilling something" then I'd technically be guilty. Real ESL vibes.
Even if I did, it'd still be less pathetic than avatarfagging with tranime and skimming old threads just to cry about some post. Just go back to posting shit riffless music no one cares about and stay in your lane.
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>>122547237
I mocked the plebbit tourism so fellow 4channer autists can laugh. You just added more plebbit tourism cringe.
>>122547266
>just if the "crime" was "shilling something"
Is this how plebbitor tourists think nowadays?
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>>122547275
>le plebbit boogeyman
Never been there, and I can tell you for a fact I've been here longer than you. Feel free to fail again or maybe post some fucking metal.
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>>122547251
I CARE OK

If Archangel exsanguination is worse than their previous "Caterpillar disembowelment" I will make my opinion known to everybody here
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>>122547282
Caterpillar disembowelment is the fucking soiboi album made for poseurs and gays.
Listening to anything past Voracious Appetite For Intestinal Tract is pointless.
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Metal is life.
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>>122547280
I posted... ehrm... commited crimes by shilling metal last thread so my guilt wouldn't allow me to hurt more of your redditor kind excuse me.
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>>122547322
Okay sure, then fuck off.
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Stop posting moeshit you goddamn troglodyte
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>>122546813
ONE TWO
FUCK YOU
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>>122547225
>>122547275
>>122547322
Most plebbit shit in this thread, yet. Full on shill cope. Even necro'd it from old thread. Smh.
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>>122547225
What's more interesting is that he puts emphasis on Obtained Enslavement when countless of bands he likes probably gets posted regularly as well(and it has to be Slayer, Metallica, maybe Deicide, Morbid Angel, Darkthrone) gotta love hypocrisy lel
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>>122547386
No I only listen to bands that /metal/ has NEVER posted as I'm more trve than you'll ever be.
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Artist: Darkthrone
Album: Panzerfaust
Song: Beholding The Throne of Might

>And destruction upon the holy man
>Who hails a jew
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>>122547225
Great post with best girl
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>>122547410
Varg Vikernes about the Early Norwegian Scene gathering in Helvete(direct quotation):

>Turns out that, pretty much everybody were so-called "racist", they were anti-immigration, they were pro-nationalist, we cultivated this
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>>122544695
>this feels like a lie people tell themselves to meet societal standards
This is how stupid the average polcuck is, he doesn't think "well has anyone found any evidence for my low quality randomly thought up theory?", no instead he shits out his barely coherent garbage on the internet with no investigation from himself. Basically every single human on the planet followed the sleep cycle that light offers them, in other words they sleep when its dark out, because unlike yourself they didn't have flashlights on their phones powered by electricity that had not been invented yet.

Your mind on modern nu-pol is no different than a mind on tiktok garbage.
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>>122547536
Nta.
There are different sleep types, roughly based on 24 hour cycle but sometimes offset to accomondate for night hunting. Torches and lanterns existed for millenia.
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What's the opinion on ghost?
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>>122547587
2spooky4me
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>>122547587
not good/10
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>>122547536
NTA but he's right and /pol/ has nothing to do with it.
>Basically every single human on the planet followed the sleep cycle that light offers them
In some parts of Scandinavia there are polar nights and polar days.
Also, we didn't evolve to sleep 8+ hours straight, but rather to sleep few times throughout the day. There is no benefit of sleeping at night only. This was researched over and over, so if there is a new study you read share it with us.
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>>122547615
>There is no benefit of sleeping at night only
It's dark
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>>122547620
Today? No. You have electricity at home.
100 thousand years ago? Still no. There was always a predator lurking around so you couldn't sleep for 8 hours straight without a break.

The only benefit today is that civilization is structured around "sleep at night, work at day"
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>>122547609
what don't you like
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>>122547587
It's just blue oyster cult with modern production and costumes but worse.
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>>122547587
inoffensive unless youre a Christian or something
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>>122547641
>No. You have electricity at home
yeah, you turn it off at night, then it's dark, and easier to sleep.
>There was always a predator lurking around
always? I'm sure humans found some areas where it's unlikely some nocturnal predator is lurking to set up their camps/villages
>The only benefit
Darkness is a benefit to sleep, Vit D is a benefit to absorb when awake, sunlight is preferable to fire on a stick to see your surroundings.
How much can you really get done effectively and efficiently when getting sleepy every few hours?
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>>122547615
>>122547576
>Also, we didn't evolve to sleep 8+ hours straight
No one said 8 hours straight, what was said is that people sleep on a 24 cycle meaning you can do things like take four 2 hour naps throughout a day, but it is consistency with 24 day cycles that matter. The polcuck instead shits out a conspiracy theory with no actual knowledge our thought behind it, just a garbage "well I don't trust the world!" take while offering nothing that ought to convince anyone that he knows better.

But even with your strawman take, if you can find me a single study showing an isolated tribe that sleeps during the daylight hours and stays awake the entire night every night feel free to show me one, then you can show me a tribe who sleep regularly on a 3 day cycle or something kek.
>Torches and lanterns existed for millenia.
Totally delusional if you think people were wasting torches to stay awake during night and then sleeping during the day. Maybe only noblemen who live more closely to modern humans than anything in the past, in other words the total opposite of what you are suggesting.
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>>122547587
i always think this is the dungeon synth band of the same name who are quite good
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>>122547587
Not metal.
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>>122547730
>Vit D is a benefit to absorb when awake,
You only need sunlight for 20 minutes max, not even every day.
>getting sleepy every few hours?
No, not every hours but 2 or 3 times a day. When we did not have civilization, there was not much to do besides hunt, gather(hunter-gatherers), kill other tribes, mate.
So yes, there is no benefit. You are just not used to sleeping during the day.
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>>122547771
If this was released in the 80s bmfags would label it first wave bm
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>>122547730
It's hard to go sleep when you go hungry and when trapping rabbits in an area with other predators around for example it's good to set out in the Early afternoon, stay in the area over night to check. It all depends on how your ancestors got your food. Also lanterns are much more efficient than you might think.
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>>122547759
>No one said 8 hours straight
You did
>Basically every single human on the planet followed the sleep cycle that light offers them
Did you get bullied on /pol/ or something?
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>>122547813
>You did
Feel free to quote where I did so then, should be easy for you since you say that I said it, polcuck.
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>>122547820
>in other words they sleep when its dark out
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>>122547828
Yes, now link the part where I said 8 hours straight.
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>>122547833
You didnt, I lied, sorry
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>>122547833
Oh yes, you and playing with semantics, as always.
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>>122547842
The only semantics being played is by yourself when attempt to turn one statement into something else entirely through semantics in order to fit a strawman. You said I stated something, I denied it and asked for proof, you quoted something that was not what you stated I said, now you are arguing that the meaning (read semantics) was actually your envisioned strawman. You are an idiot projecting your own argumentative habits on myself.
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>>122547771
Would you classify it as scooby doo chase music?
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>>122547899
What else could it be?
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>>122547861
>in other words they sleep when its dark out
Here you say "they sleep when its dark out" meaning they sleep at night specifically.
>Basically every single human on the planet followed the sleep cycle that light offers them
You say the exact same thing here. That humans follow the cycle that light offers them.
And now you're just twisting your own words for damage-control.
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>>122547921
>meaning they sleep at night specifically.
>That humans follow the cycle that light offers them
Correct. Now do you have a point to make or will you continue quoting myself without ever directly stating what point you have and leaving it up to the reader or myself to make it for you? Of course I know what you are IMPLYING, but your job is to state what it is, as leaving things in implications is you asking me to make your argument for you and then you can abandon any point because you never specified it yourself. Learn to communicate so this conversation may move quicker instead of being an educational lesson, thanks.
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>>122547902
Pop
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Interview confirmed things I already knew, Obscura sounds like a standard death metal album because it literally is just a collection of random riffs stitched together, just like all baldcuck OSDM bands are. Its only afterwards that entire songs were written by specific band members, and its only Colored Sands where most songs were Luc Lemay written. PD being written entirely by Lemay with only touch ups and minor alterations by other band members.

>>122547793
Kek true.
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>Obscura sounds like a standard death metal album
Man is literally deaf
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>>122546872
drums good
>>122547587
Scooby Doo chase music
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One thing recently is that I was very impressed with the track "Absconders" from CS, it has some real sick lead work on it that reminded me a lot of third wave black metal; I have just now found out it was written by some guy called Kevin Hufnagel, I wonder if he has any other good stuff. He has a number of bands with Marston and also Toby Driver of all people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QL4mfdjp-E

>>122548035
>Mongrel thinks dissonance is more important than form
Obscura is standard death metal, the only reason it filters anyone is because old age causes a loss of T and estrogenized half-men can't into dissonance.
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I like to store my salt and pepper inside a skull.
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>>122548150
This poster is almost certainly an amerimutt.
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What is some brutalist architecture metal?
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>>122548183
Post-soviet DSBM of course
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>>122548183
looks like cover art for one of the sĂły genres (sludge, drone, dissodeath etc.)
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>>122548183
Only one type of one for this, anyone suggesting garbage like russian music or albums with brutalist architecture on the cover is an idiot. It has to be something highly aggressive and loud, but in a dominating and cold fashion, it can't be organic sounding in any way. Most importantly it must be imposing, with a sense of jagged but straight lines, brutalism is the architecture of cold rocky mountains, factories, fault lines, and the like. My personal pick for this are these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txlXaYgt-bk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3duciT7tg0
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>>122548077

Dissonance isn’t the issue, you don’t see Unholy Cult with any haters
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YOU WILL SEETHE
YOU WILL COPE
AND DIAL 8
>BACK TO THE FRONT
YOU NIGGER
YOU FAGGOT
YOU TRANNY
>BACK TO THE FRONT
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>>122548268
>unholy cult
Babs first disso with enough consonance to keep old men around and banging their pea sized bald heads. Funnily enough Unholy Cult is more in common with Obscura than Obscura has with Colored Sands.
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>>122548209
This is actually what I thought as well. Need some recs.
>>122548234
>>122548251
Not interested but thanks
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>This is actually what I thought as well.
This place is filled with actual retards. If brutalism just means "russian sadboi" to you why even bother asking about it instead of just asking for russian bedroom bm like you actually want?

Actually just skip the "metal" part and fuck off to garbage like Bladee and Molchat Doma like the meme you are.
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Ninja Gaiden is garbo
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>>122548360
Filtered.
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>>122548300
I honestly don't know many but Psychonaut 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUf2MQ9dKxQ
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>>122548289

It’s a crowning achievement of dissonance, I don’t need to listen to slop to reaffirm that
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>>122548407
Ok, but I didn't ask to hear about your plans for a hair transplant old man.
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>>122548300
>Need some recs.
Got you famalam
https://www.youtubemultiplier.com/6605db45c8a01-trve-consonant-black-fvcking-metal.php
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>dissonance
Can you fuck off to /avantgarde/ or whatever? Let us enjoy real metal.
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>>122548457
>dissonance
>avant garde
Metal has literally from birth been about dissonance old man, from tritones comes metal. How about you fuck off to /golden oldies/ and blast your consonant Elvis tracks, let us enjoy real metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLC2qwFLbqc
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Hector, half the shit you shill is avant-garde metal
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>>122548481
Metal came from distortion on the Black Sabbath s/t. No one had used that much distortion before. And that tritone is just one single riff in an entire metal album. So yeah take it to /avantgarde/
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>>122548419

You’re confusing dissonance with nonexistent song structure I bet
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>>122548491
>>122548491
>avant-garde metal
There is no such thing, define avant-garde and what its musical characteristics are.

>>122548504
>nonexistent song structure
You mean the average OSDM song which is just a collection of unrelated riffs with random solos?
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>>122548481
>>122548501
these two posts alone have descended /metal/ to a post-ironic hellscape
if ever there was a time to finally abandon this shithole general, here's your sign
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>>122548501
>No one had used that much distortion before
They had, and distortion itself is dissonant+unmusical random noise added to the instrument. Either way you agree with me.
>that tritone is just one single riff in an entire metal album
I think you mean to say that single riff is the only metal riff on that blues rock album.
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>>122548547
>They had
Post it
>distortion itself is dissonant+unmusical random noise
Nope
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>>122548515

I don’t know what you’re referring to but listen to this and note how well organized it is

https://youtu.be/UbgIUv9kcTM?si=hqm8zEznuE4x0zwF
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Political implications of M8L8TH being uploaded to Jewtify?
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>>122548481
>from tritones comes metal
From tritones comes the Ratchet & Clank OST https://youtu.be/Q00O5mXjiNg
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>>122548559
>post it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwJkY1KC9eM
>nope
What tonality is distortion, what note does it play? We can all finally praise Merzbow for his excellent melodic works at this rate LMFAO
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>>122548565
>how well organized it is
Lol, and you argument to support this is....?
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>>122548572
Nazis > Russians, that's why most ppl in germany got put back in their old Jobs to keep the country going. Not surprising, was always like this
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Yeah we’ll just go talk about gorguts and immolation in the non-/metal/ general , sounds like a great plan

Fucking moron
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>>122548622

I’m bald
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>>122548622
I have no T
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>>122548622
I'm obese with a BMI of 64
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>>122548622
I lost my foreskin at birth
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>>122548599
>>post it
This is not more distorted than Black Sabbath.
>What tonality is distortion
Distortion clips signal, and amplifies overtones. Distortion itself is not "tonality".
>Merzbow
Noise is not same as distortion. Completely different.
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>>122548622

Anyway you sound like a pariah that has gotten laughed out of every metal community for your fringe opinions, and now you end up here as a last resort
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>>122548697
>This is not more distorted than Black Sabbath.
Yeah it is, at minimum in your delusional world it is equal to BS. Even in a schizophrenic reality you dream of each night one would have to admit it is very close.
>Distortion itself is not "tonality".
Correct, nor does it have any tonality, or actual note to it, it is literally just noise.
>Noise is not same as distortion.
Completely incorrect. This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDVTzzh0sA8 is pure distortion, explain what notes are being played for us all. State the key, the melodic or chord word, in fact feel free to state anything about it besides being noise.

>>122548720
>generic insult based around group mentality because you couldn't think of a single point to bring up
Lol, what an idiot.
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>>122548775

You said obscura filters because of dissonance, I gave a counter example and then you provided no other reasoning besides bald
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>>122548775
>nor does it have any tonality
It has tonality, but it's not tonality. As I said, it has its own timbre by amplifying overtones.
>Completely incorrect.
Better learn things, mr dunning kruger, before speaking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_noise
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>>122548815
>It has tonality
Such as?
>Better learn thing
Maybe you ought to do that yourself instead of linking random wikipedia pages with no argument.

>>122548806
I believe actually what happened is that you implied Obscura has "nonexistent song structure", to which I said "just like OSDM", then you posted a song and said "note how well organized it is", afterwards I asked what your argument to support that was, your reply to this was some generic insult because you had no point to bring up. Finally now we arrive here, with you in a meltdown misremembering things that only happened moments ago.
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>>122548850
>Such as?
All instruments have majorr overtones(few exceptions such as bells).
>Maybe you ought to do that yourself instead of linking random wikipedia pages with no argument.
Your claim is that noise and distortion are the same, while they are fundamentally different things, for different purposes.
To understand, read what noise is in the first place. Dunning kruger really makes you an annoying prick.
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>gorguts obscura
Ehem... Primus DM
>*high tails out of /meal/
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>122548885
>All instruments have majorr overtones
None of which are what we base notes on.
>while they are fundamentally different things
Fundamentally incorrect and only a semantically arguement between the two, they are one and the same as distortion produces noise.
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>>122548850

Now you’re just pretending that the stupid claim you made didn’t happen
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>>122546994
Adagio and Alone are also good
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>>122548949
Man you literally give a breakdown of what happened and baldcucks are still too fucking retarded to clue in as to what is happening around them. Get this senile old reject back in the old folks home and take away the internet from the poor grandpa.
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speaking of distortion, should I be running the tone knob of my guitar on 10 or have it rolled completely off with my Hyper Fuzz clone to get that Dopethrone tone?
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Dissodookie is sissy hypno music
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>>122548943
>None of which are what we base notes on.
Yes they are.
Why do you think Octave, Perfect fifth and third sound the best? It's literally why we use those intervals so often. What's why they are fundamental to music theory.
And overtones amplifies fifth in a way that makes the power chord sound more resonant, as in stronger and bigger, thay's why metal loves power chords.
>they are one and the same as distortion produces noise.
No it does not. Since your arrogance and dunning kruger prevents you from reading a simple article, let me exlain the difference.

>Distortion occurs when an audio signal is altered, typically through nonlinear processing, leading to a change in the waveform and the introduction of harmonics that were not present in the original signal.
Compared to
>Noise refers to any unwanted, random, and non-coherent sound that contaminates the original audio signal. It lacks a specific pattern or harmonic relationship to the original signal
Furthermore
>White Noise: Contains all frequencies with equal power per frequency band, leading to a constant hissing sound.
>Pink Noise: Contains all frequencies with equal power per octave, resulting in a lower, more balanced sound compared to white noise.
>Thermal Noise: Generated by the random motion of electrons in electronic components, leading to a hiss or hum.
>Quantization Noise: Introduced by the process of digitizing an analog signal, resulting in small errors in the signal representation.

Distortion is predictable alteration of sound. Noise is random and non-coherent additions to the signal, lacking harmonic structure.

Looking at waveforms, distortion adds harmonics, whereas noise does not.
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>>122549038
>And overtones amplifies
distortion* aplifies
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How the fuck is hecktor getting owned so much and still remains ignorant? Is he a homosexual? Must be.
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heres real metal

https://vocaroo.com/17MchyLzB5C0
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>>122547771
Ghost is Metal
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>>122548977
Kinda depends on your git, pickups and which of those you switched on. There's probably a yt vid how to get the sound paddle wise. I'd just take their suggestion and fiddle around with the guitar knobs still it sounds good. Well that's a lie, I'd fiddle with all knobs and completely avoid trying to emulate someones tone. Just be aware that not everything will sound great with every tone.
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>>122549109
>>122548977
>completely avoid trying to emulate someones tone.
This is a bad advice. Emulating tone ensures it sounds at least decent, if done right. It's hard to hard to make a unique tone that doesn't suck if you're not a good sound engineer. On one listen it might be good, and to everyone else it will sound like shit. Emulating a tone you like will likely pay off much better.
And don't worry about sounding too much like the other band, you can't emulate it 100% even if you wanted to.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36pEd-k4fow
Well?
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>>122548572
>>122548624
They got in because they shortened it to M8 on streaming services
Gr8 M8, M8, I r8 it 88/88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTlQeNeN8C8
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>>122549147
It's not rocket science anon, you just write a quick set example riffs that summerize what you wanna do and take an afternoon of knob fiddling until that sounds decent.
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fuck Andy Snead
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>>122548481
How exactly is a tritone played sequentially (not as a harmony) "dissonant"
The most dissonant part of that song is actually the last riff, but it's bluesy dissonance like Hendrix
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>>122549257
>It's not rocket science anon,
Have you ever recorded and/or produced an album?
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>>122549291
Yes. I'm a rocket scientist btw.
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>>122549298
>Yes.
How long it took you to set guitar tone?
How well was the album received? Was it released by any relatively-known metal label?
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>>122549147
>On one listen it might be good, and to everyone else it will sound like shit.
Your own opinion on your art is the only one that matters. If you like your tone then it's fine, even if everyone else hates it.
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>>122549291
That's the recording techs problem for post and mastering or at least yelling at me to turn something down and also not a midterm goal for someone who's asking how to recreate the dopethrone tone. Learn to know your shit before dreaming of sitting in a studio doing 20 takes of the same riff. Chances are you gonna record directly into the mixer anyway...
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>>122549303
>How long it took you to set guitar tone?
34 microseconds.
>How well was the album received?
Very well.
>Was it released by any relatively-known metal label?
Yes.
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>>122549316
>Chances are you gonna record directly into the mixer anyway...
I think this is how most recording engineers are doing it these days, you record a DI and they reamp it later (or just use Neural, fuck it!). I personally hate recording guitars DI, but you can always run a split signal to the amp and to the interface with a direct box.
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>>122549038
>>122549038
>why do you think Octave, Perfect fifth and third sound the best
They don't, you are just conditioned to think so through tradition and culture.
>to music theory.
There is no such thing as "music theory", there are music theories as in plural.
>random, and non-coherent sound
Which is what distortion produces, it is the opposite of a "fundamental tone" which is what notes are based on, not overtones and noise. As the distortion quote says itself "leading to a change in the waveform and the introduction of harmonics that were not present in the original signal". Anything beyond a pure sinewave is added noise and interference to the note.
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Why would you need to collect cassettes?
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>>122549331
Makes their job easier and the results aren't that noticeably different nowadays. And it's cheaper for you, too because some tone change wishes don't result in a rerecord
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>>122549347
Definitely not for listening purposes
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>>122549347
There are some cassettes that are not available online I guess
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>>122549316
>That's the recording techs problem for post and mastering
Not only. If your tone is shit, nothing's gonna fix it.
>>122549309
Rookie metalhead moment.
We get it anon, you never recorded an album either. It only sounds "good" to an untrained ear. When you gradually learn and participate in producing/mixing, you will look at things much differently. That's why the sound engineer helps you to make both the sound and mix, master.
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>>122549109
>>122549147
yeah it's a song I would like to cover. I usually have it like at 5 midway on the bridge pickup's tone but since it's an octave fuzz type pedal I wanted to know what you all do to make it sound good live since it can't take a chord that isn't a power chord well. I hardly use fuzz.
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>>122549352
I totally get it, having a DI is insurance if the tone ended up sounding crappy. And with amp sims being what they are these days, you can record DI while listening to a reasonably good tone in your headphones. The only real difference I've encountered is that you can't get amp feedback from a DI, which some bands might like to have for that "live" feeling.
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>>122549366
If It's recorded directly anyway it's not my problem anymore, suffah tech.
>>122549370
That's generally a problem with those fuzzy tones. It might be that you have to change pickups during play for those parts.
>>122549387
In that case it's probably best to split it back to an amp like you (I think) stated earlier. But I never had the need for that so I dunno. Would ask tech and take suggestions.
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is there anyone here that actually LOVES the effigy of the forgotten production
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They did it again. Strong AOTY contender.
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>>122546872
>only one (1) response to blasting
DISAPPOINTING!!!!!
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>>122549258
argho sisters. Our response?
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>>122549462
See I would have bought an Arghoslent shirt years ago but I don't wanna get beat up
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>>122549462
>mace
Gay
>a mace
Based and high T
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UNJUSTIFIABLE
EXISTENCE
KILL YOUSELF
NOW
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>>122549340
>Anything beyond a pure sinewave is added noise and interference to the note.
true technically. most people will find it pedantic, but so is the entire argument
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>>122549340
>They don't, you are just conditioned to think so through tradition and culture.
They do. On the instruments that our tradition and culture promotes(piano, guitar and anything else) these rules apply.

Consonant chords sound less "undesirable" to ears. Their waveforms combine to form a relatively smooth and regular pattern
Where as dissonant chords waveforms combine to form a more irregular and jagged pattern due to the closer and less harmonically related frequencies.
>There is no such thing as "music theory"
Theory combines all "theories" so no.
>Which is what distortion produces
Again, no. Distortion produces predictable alterations, and those that sound more consonant than dissonant.
>it is the opposite of a "fundamental tone" which is what notes are based on, not overtones and noise.
In what way is it "opposite"? As I keep repeating myself, distortion doesn't alter the fundamental tone, but it amplifies overtones(harmonics).
>Anything beyond a pure sinewave is added noise and interference to the note.
This is like saying " Anything added to vanilla ice cream is not ice cream anymore" which is wrong.
Consonance and dissonance are subjects of study, and cannot be deducted to something as simple as "only pure sine is consonant!". Only a literal brainlet monkey would do that .

You have hard time with descriptive words(such as genre, consonance, dissonance etc).
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>>122549514
too long
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>>122549479
for me, it's a flanged mace, the most deadly, yet sexiest weapon ever invented and the unparalleled, unmatched, patrician choice
>b-but muh sword
no more of a status symbol than a Gucci purse LMAO
>b-but muh axe
go chop down a tree faggot
>b-but muh warhammer
imagine going to war against nails kek
>b-but muh halberd
good luck swinging that shit fast enough to get a good enough arc and momentum to actually cleave anything you goddamn mollusk
>b-but muh spear
yeah ok, I'm not fucking with you, gg
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>>122549520
>spear
Kek, those sneaky motherfuckers. gud post
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>>122549514
Correction:
>IF* Anything is added to vanilla ice cream it's not ice cream anymore
As you can see it's still a vanilla ice cream.
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>>122549430
>It might be that you have to change pickups during play for those parts.
thank you, anon for taking the time and the (you). this is probably what I'll end up doing.
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>>122549068
He definitely is a homogay, he’s talked about finding the female body unaesthetic
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CL8dJPzFC0&ab_channel=eighteenad
gm faggots
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>Anything beyond a pure sinewave is added noise

-Hector, 2024
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>be me
>blasting some FUKKEN SLAYER
>these hags approach me
>laugh at me and says Slayer sucks
wat do
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What's that old adage about arguing with fools?
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>>122549567
Slice their fucking faces off.
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>>122549556
Well yeah, when was mr dunning kruger ever right about anything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO_2GOs4QpY

The way he's insisting makes me think he's not trolling, but I guess he is.
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>>122549567
Ask Willem Dafoe for an autograph
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OEsperg vs Hector battles ruin this fucking general.
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>>122549682
Retarded low IQ melaninheads ruin it more than anything else.
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>>122546872
Trannypopperr ruins this fucking general with her constant whining
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Once my demo drops I'll be raking in the cash.
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>>122549682
I can’t tell who is worse, Hector or AiCFrooshschizo.
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>>122546872
Some good shit once again
https://autumnfall19.bandcamp.com/track/these-chambers-deep
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>>122546872
Remember /meal/: a blastpost a day keeps the schizos away
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>>122549787
>*pirates ur demo*
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>>122549792
So I'm not even a candidate? Cool bro
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>>122546835
>>122546872
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpO1ahPmd4c
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>>122549844
I’m not a fan of symphoshit, but you seem like a decent poster.
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>>122549802
Sorry, you non-whites won't like my music.
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>>122546872
BLASTING
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MOTHER MOTHER FUCK
MOTHER MOTHER FUCK FUCK
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BLASTING THE FINEST OF BLACK METAL RIGHT NOW
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>>122549900
>American't Black Metal
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>>122549910
They're PNW, hardly American
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>>122549900
Cool, can you share it with us? No no let me guess, was it recorded in Grieghallen and mixed by Pytten, or just mixed by Pytten?
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>>122549929
The fuck you just say to me?
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this one is called GLOBAL WARMING
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>>122549929
>Inhale to piss on pytten poster
>see it's "inside you is a wolf goon"
Nevermind
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>>122546872
BLASTING OF THE WEEK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNnycceZ5OU

YOU GOT TO STARVE THE PIGS FOR A FEW DAYS, THEN THE SIGHT OF A CHOPPED-UP BODY WILL LOOK LIKE CURRY TO A PISSHEAD. YOU GOTTA SHAVE THE HEADS OF YOUR VICTIMS, AND PULL THE TEETH OUT FOR THE SAKE OF THE PIGGIES' DIGESTION. YOU COULD DO THIS AFTERWARDS, OF COURSE, BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO GO SIEVIN' THROUGH PIG SH*T, NOW, DO YOU? THEY WILL GO THROUGH BONE LIKE BUTTER. YOU NEED AT LEAST SIXTEEN PIGS TO FINISH THE JOB IN ONE SITTING, SO BE WARY OF ANY MAN WHO KEEPS A PIG FARM. THEY WILL GO THROUGH A BODY THAT WEIGHS 200 POUNDS IN ABOUT EIGHT MINUTES. THAT MEANS THAT A SINGLE PIG CAN CONSUME TWO POUNDS OF UNCOOKED FLESH EVERY MINUTE. HENCE THE EXPRESSION: "AS GREEDY AS A PIG".
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>>122549980
>Inhale to piss
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>>122550031
It's to build up enough pressure that it comes out as a fine, all encompasing mist
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>>122549980
>>see it's "inside you is a wolf goon"
What did he mean by this?
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Thinking of going to see Steel Panther to hook up and have fun, life's been rough lately
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>>122550109
>fun
Not metal.
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BMiiAS.
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>>122546872
Hank Mobley
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>>122550251
BMSS
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>>122550251
yes
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>>122550109
>to hook up
keep on dreaming, loser
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>>122547225
KEK
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BUT IT'S ALRIGHT I WILL WORK FOR FOOD
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>>122546872
THUNDERSTEEEEEEEEHEEEEEEEEEEEHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL
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EACH DAY I WAKE UP. BLOODLUST-DRIVEN DEGENERATE. HOPING ONE DAY I WILL HEAR SOMETHING EVEN REMOTELY AS GOOD AS INFESTER, EACH NEW( =NUMALE ) RELEASE I HEAR IMPLIES THAT THE DAY WILL BE IN THE VERY DISTANT FUTURE OR LIKELY NEVER.
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>read any at the gates lyrics
>"what the fuck did I just read?"
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>weekend
>can't get fucked up because I will be traveling both days
fuck this shit metalbros
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>guilty effortposting
prideful shitposting!

some people here are genuinely retarded.
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>>122549567
Two of the best /metaL/adies
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>>122549514
>They do.
They don't, you are just conditioned to think so through tradition and culture
>Consonant chords sound less "undesirable" to ears
You mean to certain people in certain cultures find some certain chords sound less desirable on average in the certain group.
>Theory combines all "theories"
Utter nonsense.
> distortion doesn't alter the fundamental tone
It doesn't need to, introducing a bunch of overtones and irregular noise is still producing noise that detracts from the fundamental note in the same way playing all the notes on the keyboard makes things indistinguishable noise.
>this is like saying
No its saying that Ice cream itself is not vanilla and outside flavors are noise that have nothing to do with ice cream.

>descriptive words(such as genre, consonance, dissonance etc).
You mean subjective nothings, as there is almost nothing concrete about any of these words. What is "dissonant" to one culture could be consonant to another culture.
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>>122550464
>Canada Day is on a Monday this year
>entire weekend is gonna be spent partying
Metal for this feel?
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Slayer
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>>122550521
>They don't, you are just conditioned to think so through tradition and culture
I just explained in detail that you are wrong.
>You mean to certain people in certain cultures find some certain chords sound less desirable on average in the certain group.
Consensus is the same. And it is explained by waveforms. More dissonant intervals sound bad whereas consonant always sound good. In all cultures you will find octaves, thirds and fifths. But you won't find all of the dissonant intervals together in any culture. Reasonably so.
>Utter nonsense.
Not an argument.
>that detracts from the fundamental note
They do not detract in a way to lose the coherence. Fundamental tone is always the most audible, then comes the octave(same pitch), then major third etc.
>No its saying that Ice cream itself is not vanilla and outside flavors are noise that have nothing to do with ice cream.
Vanilla ice cream is still ice cream, it goes with ice cream so "that have nothing to do..." is nonsense. Chocolate ice cream is also ice cream. Tone and an octave above it is not a noise. Tone and fifth above it is not a noise. Neither is dissonant interval. You don't understand what noise even is so re-read this >>122549038
>What is "dissonant" to one culture could be consonant to another culture.
It wouldn't be consonant, it would still be dissonant. But it might be the cultural norm in one place, and bad practice in another. Waveforms don't change from culture to culture.
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>>122550679
>then major third etc.
Sorry fifth*
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>>122548665
kwab
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>>122550560
>partying
Not metal. Fuck off.
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>ANOTHER spergout over dissonance
NO ONE fucking cares
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what the fuck ever happened to just blasting speed metal and making fun of minorities
that was peak /meal/
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>>122550560
https://youtu.be/qitM9-nt8E8?si=4zJVlyBzU-AIeokx
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>>122550811
Mr dunning kruger cares so I'm here to crush his childish fantasies

https://news.mit.edu/2020/universal-musical-harmony-0701

Music is objective, on all levels, harmony, melody, rhythm, forn. And no one has outclassed Bach, Mozart and Beethoven so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpqm1hxgH-w

>>122550826
We love making fun of melanated speed metal minority.
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>>122546872
WE MARCH TO WAR - THE SIEGE BEGINS
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What does /metal/ think of the new 200 Stab Wounds?
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>>122546872
It's a shame they didn't release more records after this one
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>>122550765
why do chuds love making incel images like this? back to pol with you!
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Deicide by Deicide from an album Deicide
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>>122550855
get a job keky
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>>122550963
I'm not keky, keky is the mr dunning kruger. And dissoshit is his childish fantasy.
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>>122550949
Back to your pop punk thread faggot.
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>>122550995
>pop punk
objectively better than blackpunk
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NO fun.

NO core.

NO mosh.

NO trends.

All posers will be demolished.
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>>122551033
Preach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBwu83RR6ZU
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if you can't dance to it then it's not metal
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>>122551076
HEIL THE ELITE
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>>122546766
Based edition
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>>122546926
beat me to it
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>>122549881
looks gay go back
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Even gayer than usual around here
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>>122551168
>>122551170
So you like sucking dicks?
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>>122546766
*produces your album*
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>>122551168
It's gay through and through
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>>122551170
But not gay enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwu6epsjGhI
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>>122549303
>How long it took you to set guitar tone?
Wanna hear a magic trick?
The longer you take time to set up your guitar tone the worse the recording is going to be. Main part of the catch is uniqueness, which comes from imperfection.
If you go for perfect tone youll sound like everyone which wont make your songs distinct
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>>122551183
go back
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>muh windows sound
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IF I CLOSE MY EYES FOREVER, WOULD IT ALL REMAIN UNCHANGED?
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>>122551170
>3 seconds apart
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>wear Conservative Military Image shirt
>drunk retard tries to pick a fight with me because he "used to be a punk rocker" when he was younger
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>>122551296
said drunk guy here, I actually kicked his ass
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>>122550679
>I just explained in detail that you are wrong.
You calling a chord "jagged" is a descriptive nothing, "dissonance" in its literal meaning is just something someone finds unpleasing to listen to, there is nothing concrete about the term like you are pretending there is, and your choice of words prove it.
>consensus
Ad populum and mob rule you mean.
>you won't find all of the dissonant intervals together in any culture
Reject has no idea most of the rest of word uses microtonal tuning that westerners perceive to be dissonant. You are ignorant and stupid.
>Vanilla ice cream is still ice cream
Vanilla ice cream is ice cream with vanilla added, it is not ice cream itself, rather it is the form and an additional element, in the same way a note with distribution is the note and additional noise produced by the distortion.
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GO!
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>>122551228
Absolutely irrelevant noise post and yet another dunning kruger.
You(sound engineer) can work to achieve a unique tone and get much better results than just random tone you get while plugging in your guitar.

Even a "raw" guitar tone needs some effort to sound decent.
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>tfw listening to the same three raw black metal demos on repeat and never bothering to keep up with new releases
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>>122551332
>dissonance" in its literal meaning is just something someone finds unpleasing to listen to,
You think dissonance is a made up word? Way to out yourself as a poser faggot that has no understanding of music.
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>>122551340
OUGH
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>>122551376
What do you mean raw guitar tone? As in clean? I think there's no point in that, you can pick any shitplank and the moment you add distortion only your amp will matter anyway unless your shitplank is the worst chink garbage like some 100 dollar harley benton with 5 dollar pickups
And how would sound engineer achieve specifically for (You) as guitar player the unique tone as he does for every other band? I think the job for unique tone lies within the band.
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>>122550009
based
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>>122551332
>"dissonance" in its literal meaning is just something someone finds unpleasing to listen to
retard lmao
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>durr /metal/ needs to discuss music
>*music discussion happens*
>its worse than any shitposting
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SATANIC MASTURBATING SLAUGHTER OF GOD
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>>122550949
There was no such thing as /pol/ when that image was created, fucking spastic.
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How did the Prince of Darkness turn into the Prince of Diapermess?
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>>122551423
There's actually mathematical definition for it, the closest 2 notes will always be the most dissonant, but they still need to be distinct enough on frequency response (like 200 and 201 hertz will be perceived as same tone, while 200 and 210 won't) which is why on your list minor and major 2nd are high up there.
Has something to do with frequency

Not surprising that octave, 5th and 4th are perfect consonant, because they are mathematically "clean", octave being half of the frequency, and others beint 2/3rds and 3/4ths
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>>122551332
>You calling a chord "jagged" is a descriptive nothing,
No it is a visual thing, look at picrel here >>122549514
>meaning is just something someone finds unpleasing to listen to
Wrong. Term dissonance was coined by European(Greek) music theorists. In Ancient Greece musical intervals already had mathematical basis, they classified them in two categories: consonant and dissonant.
>Ad populum and mob rule you mean.
Oh, so now it's ad populum? Kek.
Are we discussing about consnance, dissonance and how they are perceived by human brain, or dicussing some ideology? Make up your mind.
>Reject has no idea most of the rest of word uses microtonal
Some? Yes. Most? No. Also hypocritical of you to use "most of the world" and then accuse me of "ad populum"
>Vanilla ice cream is ice cream with vanilla added, it is not ice cream itself
Yes it is. Vanilla ice cream is still an Ice Cream.
>a note with distribution is the note and additional noise produced by the distortion.
Where is the noise in distortion? You are fucking retarded lol
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>This release is blocked from sale on Discogs
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>>122551475
He is old (fuck him)
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why do you add vanilla to the ice cream?
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5150 is the BARE minimum for heavy tone. Anything lesser should not pollute my ears.
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If I see a faggy post like this I'm not even going to bother reading it
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>>122551482
Discogs is owned by a jew from Portland who bans anything that offends him. Anti-White hip hop is acceptable though.
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>>122551568
Same for anti-christian bm
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>>122551585
>>122551568
Gonna cry, lil chuddie?
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>>122551598
Oy vey my goy. Kys kike you will never have foreskin
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>>122551598
No, gonna download all the stuff I want and blast it for my jewish neighbours to hear
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>>122551621
You are going to play it really quiet like on your $20 headphones so your mum wont notice
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>>122551539
So it has a rich&better taste. Similarly, you add octave, perfect fifth and thirds so it sounds more pleasant, rich and interesting.

You also add salt to ice cream, but only a little, if you add too much it will become disgusting. The same way music becomes unlistenable dogshit if dissonant chords are abused and spammed.
>>122551552
It's not for you to read anyway, brainlet
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>>122551380
Every word is "made up" you sad mongrel.

>>122551423
>>122551478
What makes the consonance "consonant" is that its "enjoyable", otherwise you are merely describing the mathematical results of waves without the descriptive property of them for instance needing to be "resolved", the "consonance" only exists because it is perceived to be harmonious and "enjoyable", it is a subjective and descriptive word.

For instance if you enjoy "dissonance" in a fully 180 degree from the imagined fairytale man who liked "consonance", it would mean the concepts are flipped, where the Octave, 5th and 4ths are now perfect "dissonance".
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Hucktor realizes the classical guy is just trolling, right
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>>122551568
>kill all jews and minorities! :)
>*his shitty album gets banned*
>NOOOOOOOOO THIS IS LITERALLY WHITE GENOCIDE AND OPPRESSION YOU CAN'T DO THAT!!
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>>122551539
Because we aren't chocolate cucks you faggot
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>>122551598
No. I'm going to continue buying directly from distros. No percentage for you people. And true to form, Discogs has increased their percentage of sales and now include a cut from postage. And you call it a canard...
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>>122551668
>otherwise you are merely describing the mathematical results of waves
Yes.
>"consonance" only exists because it is perceived to be harmonious and "enjoyable"
The consonant intervals sound enjoyable, correct.
>it is a subjective
Incorrect.
https://news.mit.edu/2020/universal-musical-harmony-0701

There is Universal Tendency, even among people of Amazon who've had no exposure to Western music can easily diatinguish consonant and dissonant intervals.
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>>122551708
I'm sure those chudstros will salivate at the prospect of you spending your $10 allowance on some shitty casette with Hitler on it that arrives broken
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>>122551668
>What makes the consonance "consonant" is that its "enjoyable"
It's just how our brains are biologically wired with ears
Perhaps the reason for it is from evolutionary standpoint to distinguish sounds that are close to each other for hunt or something like that. Like to be able to pick up specific sounds out of noise they need to have the most contrast
"Perfect" sounds dont occur in the nature, so everything will be dissonant and we will be able to immidiately realize the difference
Consonance is made for communication, which is why language developed to be consonant, similar to birds singing.
This way we biologically tuned for "consonant = friend" and "dissonant = enemy/danger"
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>>122551726
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>>122551641
No, speakers are ready, thankfully I am not a genetic dead end like you that relies on their mom's permission to listen to music
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>>122551480
>is a visual thing
Which is unrelated to the topic of dissonance.
>mathematical basis
Mathematics is not tied to the basis of enjoyment, they are concrete and free of the subjective descriptive nature of "consonance" or "dissonance" as you use them, such as here where you are not speaking in mathematical terms >>122551652 when you say "so it sounds more pleasant, rich and interesting" and use another food analogy... again.
>Also hypocritical of you to use
No, because I am not suggesting that most of the world is correct or incorrect, whereas you base your argument that the majority is what decides what is correct, which is literally what "consensus" means, by its very definition it is ad populum and mob rule.
>Vanilla ice cream is still an Ice Cream.
It is ice cream with added vanilla flavoring, it is improper to state it is Ice Cream, you may only say it could be an altered form of ice cream with non Ice Cream elements.
>Where is the noise in distortion?
We already went over this, you yourself gave the description of its action which is added noise unrelated to the fundamental tone or sine wave.
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>>122551754
Post last receipt
>>122551757
Post speaker set up and video of you loudly blasting chuddery
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>>122551767
>t. Post-foreskin
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>>122551761
>>122551728
fuck both you faggots
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>>122551860
>*Dissoantly farts in your general direction*
Here's your dissonance that you love, enjoy it
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>stop posting when hecky turns up hours ago
>he is still fucking going
See you tomorrow I gues.
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Some black kids harrassed me on the bus when they saw my Black Sabbath shirt.
One of them farted on me and a girl burped in my face
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>>122551719
>sound enjoyable
In your mind, I am sure they are.
>Universal Tendency
You mean ad populum, average, consensus, mob rule, democratic, and so on and so forth.

>>122551728
Its an interesting theory I suppose, ultimately it doesn't show why people prefer the opposite much of the time. Afterall, even the biggest consonant fans tend to have dissonance in their music despite not realizing it. Technically the flawed western tuning standard is always imperfect and "dissonant", only not perceived as such because of tradition and familitiy (meanwhile true tuning are perceived as dissonant, lol). Metal itself is one of the most dissonant popular forms of music there is, ask any (non-modern) classical fan their thoughts on the genre and they will tell you that its a "chromatic nonsense for dissonance junkies", at least for the extreme genres anyways, power metal need not apply.
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>>122551761
>Which is unrelated to the topic of dissonance.
No, it is not. Dissonance can explained mathematically, and as apparent from the facts, your original claim about distortion being noise, or distortion being dissonant are both wrong.
>Mathematics is not tied to the basis of enjoyment,
Mathematics explain things humans could not with just words.
>they are concrete and free of the subjective descriptive nature of "consonance" or "dissonance" as you use them
As I said, consonance and dissonance is not subjective and there are clear physical differences(sounds are waves), which are explained by mathematics. Furthermore, consonance and dissonance are distinguished from one another even without any cultural interference, as I stated here >>122551719
>when you say "so it sounds more pleasant, rich and interesting"
That post was talking with another anon. The one I replied to you used mathematical terminology >>122551480 and >>122549514 etc.
>No, because I am not suggesting that most of the world is correct or incorrect
Neither am I?
>whereas you base your argument that the majority is what decides what is correct
My argument states that there is a difference between dissonant and consonant intervals, I explained it 1. mathemarically and also 2. provided an example that proves humans indeed perceive one as pleasant sounding, and one as less pleasant sounding, as WITHOUT any cultural interference. As people of Amazon had no exposure to western music, yet they easily could tell dissonance from consonance.

I proved you that there is a musical difference between the two and humans are able to distinguish the two easily. Ad populum has nothing to do with what I just said here. This is your last desperate attempt at this point.
>It is ice cream with added vanilla flavoring,
No shit?
>it is improper to state it is Ice Cream,
Lol.
>you may only say it could be an altered form of ice cream with non Ice Cream elements.
Absolute, laughable nonsense.

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https://youtu.be/iBpsmZlzwLs?si=BqeD8y2vPcBGHOKx
https://youtu.be/2KpldlQTY1E?si=uHuS8Fnk4MLvN0I7
i like these two songs. give recs
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Can a non autist make the new
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>>122551987
>>122551987
>>122551987
new
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>>122551991
Wait
What about my recs
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>>122551974
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9_u-F1gMhM
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>>122551761
>>122551961
Can we call edible Salt - Salt? Or is it "improper" since it's not pure? Kek
>We already went over this,
Yes we did, and I proved, that by definition, distortion is predicrable amplified overtones, whereas noise is not. You can re-read that post again.
>added noise unrelated to the fundamental tone or sine wave.
Firsr of all, distortion is NOT noise. And what does "unrelated" mean?
Holy fuck you're dumb

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>>122551999
awesome, thanks anon. i prefer the noisy black metal over the raw traditional shit
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>>122552038
Move to the next thread, I'll find more recs
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>>122551956
>people prefer the opposite much of the time
Yes because of change, right? You get used to consonant sounds, and dissonance adds tension, some sort of unresolved situation in your brain that you put attention to. Thats how jazz operates, by creating interestingly placed dissonant sounds
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>>122551668
but i enjoy diminished fifths and minor ninths so your "logic" is batshit retarded
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>>122551961
>>122552001
>Dissonance can explained mathematically
The mathematical formulas have no bearing on what consonance or dissonance is, because consonance and dissonance come with a subjective meaning of enjoyable or non enjoyable. A quick dismantle of the relation of these two meanings is found here >>122551956 in my reply to the other poster about western tuning and "true" tunings.

Indeed you yourself use it in a subjective form here >>122551652, so there is no getting away from it in this regard.
>Neither am I?
However you did and continue to, as stated before a consensus is nothing more than ad populum and you used it as justification for your argument.
>provided an example
Which is nothing more than an example, you can see the counterpoint I brought up at the top of this post again for true tunings, or that the alternative tunings of the rest of the non western world are perceived as "dissonant" to alien cultures and the reverse for the home culture. Indeed the entirety of modern classical, jazz, or metal itself proves it to be nothing more than cultural.
>no shit
It seemed like you were having some confusion, so I don't think it was "no shit" for yourself.
>Yes we did
and as argued before, any additional alteration to the sine wave is noise, which as yourself states is what distortion is doing.

>>122552283
From what I understand, no one wishes to hear the sound of an "enemy" as you put it before, so I don't find this premise to be congruent with your previous theory.
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>>122553127
I think you don't realize you aren't even disagreeing with me.
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Get a life, Fagtor.
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>>122551676
every single time kek
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>>122553181
the real tears are (((yours))) as you report releases to discogs lol



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