Dynamics EditionRushed editionFAQ:NahOld:>>123144365King:last.fm/user/Only_Perception
Gay
Fucking hell
Kill yourselves
Rush, you say?
>>123147800Aquilus is my favorite disso band. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GnwheJLtcs
post your BLASTINGS
>>123147867>real piano by someone who can actually play itA disneydelight!
>>123147877WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>En shekel for vår skjebne>Goyimblood>Ledestjernens Undergangthe greatest B-Side in Metal history
>>123147890>casiocringeHated here>pianoperfectionBeloved here. >>123147861Pure metal (according to MA).
Post em
>>123147932For me its Dark Moor.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-J7u4Vtf8I
>>123147786Hmm let's see..Oh no, it is extreme metal, just checking dyna-AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHALOL>he doesn't even know what dynamics isKEK.I randomly selected a song and compared it to Mozart... At least you'll learn what dynamics are nowJK you'll start to argue anyway KEK
>>123147954>youtube recordingNorsecuck moment.
ffs this norsecuck is retarded
>>123147923epic joker laughs on this album. next album should be called "samfunn"
>>123147976Smarter than the alternative
>>123147975OK downloading FLAC to see that it'llbe exactly the same KEK. Wait a few mins
>>123147975>>123147976Ad hominem. You lost
>>123147932retarded circus metal? here you go
>>123147999>>123148000Iass, downloading youtube to flac isn't going to change it. Maybe that sperg going off about youtube clicking was right.
>>123148011>downloading youtube to flacThe state of /metal/ retards
>>123148016We all need less of that, actually.
Voivod
OH NOES.... WE STILL HAVE NO DYNAMICS OH NOES... COMPRESSION TOTALLY RUINS IT FENRIZ WAS RIGHT AS ALWAYS... >>123147954>>123148011I just downloaded flac, not from youtube. It is losless. Total KEK.
>>123147816>album cover is just a body of waterDon't even need to listen to know this is low T, soi-ridden garbage. I went ahead and gave it 5 seconds to confirm though and holy shit is it even worse than I expected somehow. Non metal trash only a pseudo intellectual would enjoy.
>thinking mp3 compression matters>>>/mu/ >>>/lgbt/ >>>/reddit/
>>123148081You need the vinyl rips... Norsecuck this is just embarassing. Not only that but you can have dynamics even with the volume range maxed out, one big long drone is not considered to be loud in the same sense as having 500 different notes and percussive hits being played per second. Stop looking to "win" and start looking to THINK.
>>123148105He want you to explain what dynamics means because he doesnt know
>>123147954>>123148081Based fact checker
>>123148105Not sure who you're refering to, but I did not mean mp3 compression since in the last pic I used flac.But yeah mp3 doesn't compress anything 'visible', first pic is the exact same. Exteme metal is inherently anti-dynamics.
Did anyone listen the new Malignancy album? I feel like I don't see them talked about here much anymore besides the debut album or maybe the demos. Is it because the lyrics started to shift the focus more on humanity? Lineup changes? I still think its awesome they got Roger back for one album even if it wasn't playing drums. Also Danny Nelson is absolutely one of the best death metal vocalists ever, I would even say top 3. Also I saw the other thread first my mistake, deleting that other post.
>>123148116Based fact double checker. >>123148120>>123148119Cringe youtube clickers.
>>123148116>Stop looking to "win" and start looking to THINK.Perhaps the most ironic thing you’ve ever posted
La capture du chien CerbèreFut le dernier des douze travaux d'HerculeDemi-dieu par le sang de son pèreQui jamais devant le danger ne recule
>>123148081Fas production/mastering is shit tier. Garbage band made black metal unlistenable for 10 years with SMRC and almost ruined it in the end.
>>123148134Incorrect, free feel to prove otherwise. The archives are always there, the choice is yours.
>>123148130>lossless FLAC = youtube clickingYou lost so hard retard Keep samefagging though
>>123148138Correct.
>>123148081Win>>123148116Loss
Varg Vikernes about Sarcófago(direct quotation):>I don't like it. Never lsitened to it.
>>123147932https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDFC_IeaPvI
>>123148149>>123148156Youtube clicker humilation ritual time?
Sortilege High PowerBlaspheme
>mastering = dynamicsThe state of norsecore education. Doesn't this guy larp as a classicalfag?
>>123148116>You need the vinyl ripsLiterally same thing on my screen lol.Vinyl or CD-FLAC rip, it has no dynamics. It's only quieter at the beginning and then bursts into total compressed nosie just like every single black metal song out there no exceptions. You just cropped the beginning riff which is an intro. Look at the rest of it(which amounts to more than 80% of the song) total compressed mess. Compared to Mozart there is 0(zero) dynamic
Wigger about the early Wiggerslam revival scene in Bloomington, Indiana (direct quotation):>Turns out that, pretty much everybody were so-called "wiggers," they were pro-slam, they were Peelingflesh fans, we cultivated this
>>123148223He loves touring classical and larping, yes. Reminder: >>122563815
>>123148216ADX
>>123148146>the choice is yours
>>123148223>>123148236>Talking to yourselfThis has to stop
>>123148232Bud, there is not a single spot on my rip that is maxing out the range and you can literally see that on my image. Give it a rest you retarded youtube streamcuck.
>>123148252We love that here
>>123147877I can't believe none of you told me Malodorous was releasing a new album.
>>123148223What are you babbling about schizo?>>123148256Show me FULL screenshot, not just the beginning/intro.
>>123147877This sucks
>>123147877
>>123147816Unironically my first time listening to a Hector rec and…. This shit is terrible. I guess I haven’t been missing much.
>people STILL don't understand that the words compression and dynamics have several meanings this thread is truly the special olympics
>Deflecting, projecting, and denyingThis has to continue
>Deflecting, projecting, and denyingBeloved here.
SOGNAMETAL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kumhs0RPeh0
>>123148275I can see the timestamps in your image norsecuck, the 2:00 is right there already maxed out. Mine never maxes even beyond that point into the 3+ minute mark.Why even die on this hill norsecuck? Who do you think knows the mastering of FAS between versions better, myself, or you?
>>123148300Norsecuck is currently warring his way to being more mogrelized than the guy who said tuning are a gimmick. Do you think he has American DNA hidden somewhere?
>>123148300>dynamicsYeah no sorry, there's only one definition for dynamics in music.>Dynamics are the range of volume that music notes can be played. They create a scale starting with pianissimo (very soft), to piano (soft), to mezzo-piano (medium soft), to mezzo-forte (medium loud), to forte (loud), and finally to fortissimo (very loud).https://study.com/academy/lesson/dynamics-in-music-piano-forte-and-why-they-are-important.htmlhttps://en.www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamics_(music)Anything outside the pianissimo - fortissimo range of volumes is not 'dynamics'.
>>123148336Distribution is noise, it literally makes the note harder to hear because of the alteration of the tones and comes with a distinctive buzz that in audio engineering would be called noise. Saying it is "often desirable" is not an argument, afterall Merzbow is pure noise and apparently desirable to some. You definition of noise is incompetent and the clipping, buzzing, and wave alteration muddying the fundamental tone would count as noise even in your definition.>it mostly amplifies consonant overtoneNo it doesn't, it amplifies everything and can even clip out entire sections of the overtone. You are an idiot. Also lol at "consonant overtones".>Consonance naturally sounds pleasant to any human brain that has or has not been exposed to any musicI already went over this in the last conversation with the post you gave up to, please refer to >>122553132 and the points about tuning systems and genres.>Dissonance and Consonance are also explained by physicsMathetically one can say there are states, but "dissonance" and "consonance" come with added subjective ties which you yourself use it for, not the objective mathematical data which is impartial to things such as "sound good" or "sound bad">classical good (thats why I spend all day listening to disneycore black metal)your actions and what you post are incongruent.
>>123148335ESL: the post
>>123148336>blows himself the fuck out unknowingly>he will still continue arguing despite not knowing what he just did
>>123148323>Mine never maxes even beyond that point into the 3+ minute mark.And it is still constantly the exact same volume in your pic after the intro. Do you not understand what dynamic is?
>>123147877This shit is actually very good
Varg thread was better
>>123148386Yep.A shame janny had to delete it for this shit thread.
>>123148335Calm down and type that again
>>123148374>>123148415Why are you samefagging, Iass?
>>123148375I compared it to Mozart. You can give me any other Vinyl version you want and I'll compare again, and you'll see the drastic differences. DSO sits at the same exact volume, that is not 'dynamic' music. Mozart goes from the softest to the loudest all the time, THAT is a dynamic music.
>>123148420Mongrel post.
>>123148435>>123148376>it has to be as dynamic as Mozart to have dynamics>I still have no idea that compression is not the same as dynamics >I cannot comprehend that you can have one long drone that maxes out the compress bar as still play softly underneathAlright norsecuck, what about pic related, thats 17 minutes of song there btw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXXVG0FFE4M
Butchered at Birth is the best CC album
>>123148488Woops, sorry. I meant to write The Bleeding.
>>123148467>>it has to be as dynamic as Mozart to have dynamicsEven Bach, whose harpsichord music has almost no dynamics would have more dynamic than DSO lol.Suggesting that this >>123148232 or >>123148323 have dynamics is ridiculous.More compression = less dynamics usually. Metal without compression is almost always shit unless it's Darkthrone or someone who actually knows what they're doing.My point was that you couldn't name 10 songs that have dynamics, now you found one that is somewhat dynamic, congrats.
Varg Vikernes about the Early Norwegian Scene gathering in Helvete(direct quotation):>Turns out that, pretty much everybody were so-called "racist", they were anti-immigration, they were pro-nationalist, we cultivated this
>>123148576The very fact your youtube streamcuck version of FAS was already maxed out at 2 minutes shows that this entire method of dynamic measurement is fraudulent. You have confused compression for dynamics, you have no nuance in how dynamics are approached, you have not addressed any point I made about how you can play softly under one loud note, and are spiraling into a nothing burger. BTW Darkthrone has more dynamics than Dark Furneral. Not that your fraudulent method seems capable of picking that up.
>>123148604Artist: DarkthroneAlbum: PanzerfaustSong: Beholding The Throne of Might>And destruction upon the holy man>Who hails a jew
Why is it that every band that describes their music as "rock and roll" sucks, with the exception of Motorhead? Metal for this feel?
>>123148604>>123148656HEIL
>>123148652>youtube streamcuck versionI already said the second pic is not yoube rip.Stop strawmanning and I may address rest of your points which are all also strawman btw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLmlsEOMi-0
>>123148667when Motorhead called an album Rock'n'Roll it actually did suck...
>>123148692Why is it maxed out at 2 minutes and mine is not then Norsecuck?
>his favorite metal band is King Gizzard
>>123148138Seethe faggot Dso > your favorite band
>>123148749We prefer Polyphia here
>>123148725Because master is louder.I'm not sure how is it relevant when your own pics shows that there is no dynamic range, it's always either [the intro volume] or [default song volume]. And that song has an intro, the ones that don't are even worse, they're just flat.
Hellbutcher's latest album is good
For example Norsecuck, here is a shitty rip of Kenose II.Quiet astounding stuff. It must be the heaviest metal known to mankind. Lets listen to the first 15 seconds of this heaviest metal known to man:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpMUs_3-XmwWell that was a bit of a dud wasn't it? I know for a fact I can play with more attack and less dynamics than that. Surely we are to say that this isn't even as dynamicless as Dark Funeral is, aren't we?We need to make a call Norsecuck, are you here to lie and act in bad faith, or concede for the first time in your life?
>>123148762Smallest dsofag gut
James Hetfield- King of Metal
Will someone rec some Mexican or Spanish bm?
>>123148791I'll concede that DSO has more dynamic than Dark Funeral(and Darkthrone has more than both), but their dynamics are subpar. Darkthone and >>123148467 are decent. DSO in your own picture is not.If you call Wagner's music dynamic, then come to DSO and say the same, everyone will make fun of you.
>>123148714So there is no exception then. Maybe the Ramones.
>>123148323>>123148376>>123148467You cannot tell if the dynamics are there by looking solely by waveform. One could easily max the fuck out of something like old Black Sabbath songs and even if the waveform would look having no dynamic characteristics: it would still sound like having more dynamics than some modern polished turd piece of shit made inside DAW and recorded totally digitally even if the waveform looks more pleasing
>>123148864>Proclamation - Execration of Cruel Bestiality>Teitanblood - Death>Altarage - The Approaching Roar>Frozen Dawn - The Decline of the Enlightened Gods
>>123148714What you think of this Black Sabbath song:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZcGiL1xmwQused to hate it, but now think it is one of their best
>>123148938Trying to achieve dynamics in metal is a folly. Guitar distortion doesn't allow it. And if you take away distortion you are left with clean, sterile guitar sound that no one really likes.
guys when you dont feel like listening to brutal extreme and dark metal what metal do you usually listen to?
>>123148973nothing
>>123148976ok it could be a bit dark
>>123148988nothing
Dark Funeral
>>123148999Post a song of their
>>123148972>>123148972Well metal is a quite wide genre in terms of mixing. For example some atmoshit like Summoning's "drum sound" is achieved by totally unnatural means in a sense that you need to compressor AFTER the reverbs on the drum bus (it can take a lot of tweaking to get it to sound right, but it's necessary to really achieve their sound) and then they are layered with drier drums. This has nothing to do with "Real" dynamics, even if the drums may sound massive this way
>>123149013summoning is NOT atmoshit
>>123148973Prog rock and shoegaze are what I listen to when not listening to metal.
>>123148864check out Avzhia - The Key of Throne>>123148948it's good. this and Dirty Women were the best cuts on Technical Ecstasy
>>123149052I like prog rock. Especially Wigwam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7HIKvCysR4Shoegaze is too artsy for me. What I really like old prog bands from the 70s they have a bit something like Sabbath vibe to them or something
Metal?
\m/Met Mameli he signed my Testimony cd
>>123148873>and Darkthrone has more than bothTotal delusion. You have to give up these absurd claims, it only makes you look like you are an idiot. Stop looking at compression and start listening to music. >If you call Wagner's music dynamic, then come to DSO and say the sameNo one said this. No one said "DsO is as dynamic as the most dynamic things in classical". No one even said "DsO is better than classical". There are figments of your imagination. There is not "dynamics" vs "no dynamics", the world is not one thing or the other thing. Unless it is Dark funeral, in which case yes, it basically has no dynamics since start to finish is nothing except blasts, tremolo, and screeching. Here is another test norsecuck, return to continue to Kenose II and listen to the first minute, and then 4:10 to say.... 4:30https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpMUs_3-XmwNow look at pic related. Are you to say that that there was no change in the dynamics between the first 60 seconds where there is no percussion vs the torrent of blasting at 4:20?
>>123148973old school electronic stuff. Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk, Schulze, Tomita, Cluster
>>123149013I guess you can achieve dynamics with some studio trickery(or just playing 100% organically like Darkthrone) but it is subpar compared to something with actual dynamicshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-qoaioG2UAAfter listening to this Darkthrone is just unstoppable noise. As of yet, I haven't listened to anything with dynamics. The other pic hector posted might be onto something I didn't check it out.>Summoning's "drum sound" is achieved by totally unnatural means in a sense that you need to compressor AFTER the reverbs on the drum busWas this said in an interview? If so give me the link please, I'm really curious.>>123149046Yeah it is atmoblack. Atmoshit is something like paycocke diver
>>123149123>there is no percussionNo heavy* percussion I ought to say, there are also sections there without percussion, but this is more accurate to say.
>>123149153nta, but I'm pretty sure they said that they played the "drums" on a keyboard. there was an anon who knew how their old albums were produced down to the last piece of equipment but idk if he's still around.
>>123149123>Stop looking at compression and start listening to music.I'm literally looking at your pic and there are NO dynamics in it. It is constantly the same volume. If there is a compression or not I don't know or care.>nothing except blasts, tremolo, and screeching. These do not account for lack of dynamics, their choice of production does. Darkthrone also has blasty screechy tremolo songs and they have ups and downs in volume(unlike your picrel)>Are you to say that that there was no change in the dynamics between the first 60 seconds where there is no percussion vs the torrent of blasting at 4:20?Totally the same volume in your link. And the same thing in your pic. The volume is absolutely exaclty the same in first minute as in 4:10 to 4:40. There is no pianissimo or fortissimo change, it is just one constant volume(mezzo-forte or whatever it is). No matter if they blast and tremolo or just pluck a string.It's completely different for violins, pizzicato is usually very quiet, and something like tremolo allows it to be louder. Classical music is also recorded and produced differently. Also in the previous thread you gave me links, instead you could've just given me names of songs and I would download their vinyl rips from the beginning.
>>123149153>I guess you can achieve dynamics with some studio trickery(or just playing 100% organically like Darkthrone) but it is subpar compared to something with actual dynamicsDynamic amplitude and loudness are extremely subjective even in classical music - you cannot define it in as exact terms as pitch and even something laughable like the audience (sniffing, moving about, coughing) of the classical concert will raise the 'threshold' of the concert that pianissimo in normal conditions may become inaudible etc. Of course professional musicians actually react accordinglyPeople have no fucking idea what they are listening. Even you adjusting your shitty little hifi like few decibels up on your HiFi headpones or stereos it already destroys your fucking classical 'dynamics' scale. It's totally unnatural to even reasonably try to make rock or 'pop' or metal music to even have proper dynamics because it is AMPLIFICATED to begin with
Currently listening to Prince
>>123149265Oh I know about their keyboard drums. Just curious how they produce the sound(compression after reverb is not common thing to do)
>>123149265>>123149304Summoning drum sounds (not every album, but some)>plate or plate-simulating reverb on individual drums>hall or hall-simulating reverb on the drum bus>compressor AFTER the reverb on the drum bus >layer with drier drums if too much attack/punch is getting lost in your reverb'd drums>digital reverbs will get you closer to their sound >it's likely they used the classic Lexicon digital reverb units or some similar variation of those
>>123149288>there are NO dynamics in itIts hopeless. I had another set of socrate dialog set up where we looped back around to the original subject of that FAS record where I ask if T.T. light notes are equal to chords and such but I suppose this is simply a case where I have to let you figure it out on your own time over the next few years or whatever. Why do you have to be so boring norsecuck?>I would download their vinyl rips You didn't even do that for the download you did, and then you downloaded it again and still downloaded a not vinyl rip. Not that its particularly important to begin with. It was merely playing along to act in good faith until we finally reached this point, but ya fekin blew it bud. I need a better conversation partner.
>>123149341You're the guy who listens the YouTube vinyl rips, aren't you?
>>123149293It is subjective to a degree, but there are agreed upon levels such as pianissimo, piano and then forte, fortissimo. It is usually very clear what's being played in decent recordings.>and even something laughable like the audience (sniffing, moving about, coughing)This doesn't happen in professional, especially modern recordings.Agreed on the rest.
>>123149353>YouTube vinyl ripslolwut.
Every single fucking time I come here you stupid faggots are talking about summoning
Enjoying a nice bonfire while you two losers argue, llife is good
>>123149367Most of the time its archive schizo spamming old posts. Today its just norsecore poster's obsession with some disney tunes made by a couple retards fucking around on a casio.
>>123149361https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCVYlU5ofhU>Digital VST cookie cutter DAW production with digital VST guitars>"Gotta make Analog vinyl of it for that analog WARMTH">Upload on a digital YouTube platform >Comments full of Redditors "Yeah I can totally feel the analog warmth serving this masterpiece"It's Caladan Brood disneycore time
>>123149334>it's likely they used the classic Lexicon digital reverb units or some similar variation of thoseI thought they applied the effects through some long lost Amiga software. I think they used Amigas until Mortal Heroes, which was when they switched out their whole setup.
>>123149141>>123149052no i said metal not some other music genre
>>123149341>Why do you have to be so boring norsecuck?Why do you keep on insisting that there is any difference at any point in the volume? You are confusing 'variety' with dynamics. The kenose song has variety, it has blasts, and also slower movements, but it's produced in a way that all thr variety amounts to nothing for the dynamics. All 3 spots in picrel are exactly the same volume, you wouldb't even be able to tell where it gets blasty.If you're so easily bored by failing to understand the concept of dynamic, then perhaps you shouldn't start arguing with me, hecuck.
>>123149391Bud I don't care about analog or any of this not metal disney casiocringe. I have since the beginning understood that digital is inherently superior and that every "issue" about it comes from user error. The only thing I know is that DsO records are better on vinyl usually, except for from the picture box which seems to have a lot of issues with cracking and popping like crazy. Just go download a vinyl rip of Katechon from that box and kek your ass off.
>>123149402Honestly they sound kinda identical to those classic Lexicon digital reverbs, try sometimes Lexicon 80s LX480 emulations VSTs (they sell for like $50 on black friday) combined with old drum machine sample packs and you get really that classic Summoning sound for drums
>>123149463>this guy actually pays for his pluginsAnother W for piratechads
Why does he have 6 fingers?
I've seen Mastodon twice now and each time I was surprised to find that they weren't the higher billing on their dual tours with Lamb of God and Gojira. In my opinion Mastodon is far better in both songwriting and musicianship than either, but objectively they've also sold way more records. I've always thought Mastodon were way bigger, maybe more mainstream, at least should be able to draw the bigger crowds.It's weird, both times it seemed like way more people at the show were into Gojira and Lamb of God. Why do people have such taste? >Mastodon > Lamb of God > GojiraAlso, just found out Ashes of the Wake and Leviathan were released on the same day in 2004. The current tour is in honor of those albums. They played both albums in full on this tour.>they also played a scene from the classic film Moby Dick before they started Blood and Thunder
>>123149492?
>>123149492he doesn't
>>123149479That's pretty much the only VST I've ever paid money for as it was on sale. It was something THAT good unlike Valhalla verbsI also sometimes buy PHYSICAL MEDIA, can you imagine?
>>123149429Because I listen to the music instead of looking at compression images. What use is your definition of "dynamics" when it amounts to nothing except compression values? You say nothing about the notes being played because you look at images instead of listening to the actual sound being produced by people.
>>123149509>>123149510Am i seeing things or whatThere's another finger in his palm
>>123149529yeah, your eyes are fucked
>>123149529Anon?
>>123149521The actual sound(volume) I heard was the same at the beginning and during the blast at 4:10 - 4:40 but since my opinion is invalid unless I agree with yours I am arguing from the point of your pic lol.I heard exactly the same loudness. Is there something wrong with my speakers?
>>123147816might as well make a Devin Townsend thread
>>123149550>>123149555I'm definitely seeing a finger here
Recommend something like this
>>123149567No wait, anon i think I see it. Why are you looking at this album that closely?
>>123149567you're seeing shaded creases
>>123149561>I heard exactly the same loudnessSo blasts and no drums at all are the same dynamics to you? Literally no noise at all is = blasting to you? When he lightly taps his toms at 0:00 vs the brutalization of them at 2:39, no dynamic change at all?What would Vagner say if you told him that? Would he not ask if you have forgotten that dynamics is how notes are played and not images on a computer screen?
>>123149561>>123149561Dynamics is subjective and you should understand this from the viewpoint of acoustical science. For example the subjective experience of pure sine wave of G7 pitch played at 60dB intensity is MF in dynamics but almost inaudible at pitch G0. You cannot just stare at some level meters and amplitude/intensity or waveform and tell that something is audible or not
SERIOUSLY I HATE ANAL CUNT ALL SETH PUTNAM DID IS INSULT PEOPLE AND IVE HAD ENOUGH OF IT ALLI WANT ANAL CUNT BOYCOTTED
>>123149604>Why are you looking at this album that closely?I was listening to their album again and noticed this>>123149608Maybe, but now I can't unsee it
>>123149644>
>>123149614>So blasts and no drums at all are the same dynamics to you?Pretty much. The guitar volume/loudness is all the same doesn't matter if they are lightly plucked or tremolo picked, and drums don't change much either, whether they are blasting or playing slow. In fact, if there is some difference in the drumming,the blast parts are QUIETER. Blasting takes a lot of stamina and you are compsenanting loudness for fast beats. When making a realisitc MIDI drums you always make faster bits much quieter.Dynamic is really tricky thing to achieve, in classical music you don't have this much percussion so it's easier to deal with it
>>123149693>Pretty much
>>123148973Jangle pop, shoegaze, indie rock. Been listen to morrissey alot lately.
Watchtower
>>123149619>but almost inaudible at pitch G0.Well it is inaudible at G0, doesn't mean the fact that G7 at 60dB is NOT MF.... I don't get what you're trying to say here.
>>123149693Nobody is compensating loudness on a fucking metal recording. There's no real dynamics in amplification media - what you are thinking you are hearing in action is called SIDECHAIN COMPRESSION and it was already invented in 1930s by Douglas Graham Shearer
>>123149056Basado
>Deathspell Omega - IIhttps://vocaroo.com/11RxQ99Qke4VIf there is a difference in volume here, let me know lol.>>123149755>There's no real dynamics in amplification mediaThat's what I mean, man.It could be sidechain compression, or not, either way I don't really care nor is it relevant right now. The volume stay the same and I am unable to hear otherwise. Whether or not that's my issue is also another matter entirely, I don't think I'm deaf tho.
>>123149710noo i'm asking you guys for metal thats not so extreme
The post that started all this:>>123147322
What are the pseuds yapping about now? You pretending to have any kind of clue about sound engineering now?
>>123149898>>123149880Look, by very definition, rock music or metal music for that matter, will never have a proper nuances of dynamics typical of classical music, where music goes from pianissimo to fortissimo or having some massive dynamic range coverning 80 dB in steps from loudest to quietest sound. It DOES NOT exist in pop, rock or metal music At the very best you can use different mixing and recording techniques to give the illusion of dynamics: it's not real in a sense that classical instruments or classical music concert has actual dynamics
>>123149898Personally I would have enjoyed a discussion about this much more, but Norsecuck cannot process abstracts or rational thinking, he wants empirical discussions where you are lead to ad absurdum conclusions stating blast beats to be equal to nothing at all. Evidently if you were to take him seriously you would guess he is on his way to Xenaki's music on this particular day, but nope, not even he takes the wild stuff he puts forth seriously. All in all, a waste of my time and another nothingburger of interest happens. Maybe I ought to go the way of Ildjarn and just accept nothing good ever happens between humans.
>>123149908There are extremely deluded anime posters here who listen YouTube vinyl rips and claim to hear more "dynamic range" in these recordings since they read somewhere that analog vinyl retains the DR better than digital
>>123149882Listen to doom metal or Stoner metal then. Old-school thrash should do you good too.
>>123149974>>123149882Honestly old prog rock and doom, stoner go very well hand in hand.
>>123149898>implying antaeus has more dynamics than dark funeralStarting with a folly already. Heccy will not miss a chance to praise some hack talentless underwear(as in underground) bands like Ildjarn or circle of dawn and then criticize popular bands that do what they do except better, because they are popuale. The default poser in disguise BMtard behavior.
>>123150016>>implying antaeus has more dynamics than dark funeralThis the the average /metal/cuck reading comprehension. Norsecuck may not handle the abstract, but you rejects can't even put together a single non embarrassing sentence. If you are having trouble with reading english, read it slower or multiple times. Whatever works for you.
I was on a night/evening walk and using my phone's flashlight on the road and saw this little field mouse or shrew next to my feet going "EEEk" making this most pathetic sound and hiding in to the long grassImmediately thought of inspiration for black metal song or album "Those Who Flee The Light". Maybe start composing tomorrow
Norsecurecuck and Hector are the same exact person btw
>>123149952>stating blast beats to be equal to nothing at all.And this is another /metal/cuck reading comprehension. The link here >>123149880 compares slow drumming at th3 beginning and blasts later on. Yet you have to assume that there is zero percussion at all. Or that I said blast beats equal to slow drumming(or 'nothing' in your words) when I said "PRETTY MUCH"
trve
>>123150084>And this is another /metal/cuck reading comprehension.What do you mean? You quoted myself "So blasts and no drums at all are the same dynamics to you?" and said "pretty much", what other interpretation can be taken from such a thing?
>>123150053Leaning more towards a "twins seperated at birth but finally re-united through the power of autism" situation
>>123150112and you're the lost triplet who was kept in the attic.
>>123150101I literally explained lol.1. There is not a 'no drums at all' section in the beginning, there are drums.2. Pretty much = approximately, very nearly.
>>123149116Which poster are you? Looks like we have another one of /metal/ faces
>>123150124The space between drum hits at the beginning can be measured in multiple seconds where there are no drum hits. There are apparently equal dynamics to a constant noise via blasts where the percussive sound is not even finished playing before being hit again. In other words nothing = blasts to yourself. And sure you will nitpick this arguement of the seconds and what not, however can you really say that the sections where a cymbal is lightly tapped oncee every few seconds is equal to blasts? The ad adsurdum remains, you are speaking nonsense for the sake of argument sake. Your forced empirical viewpoint has left you a desert of intellectual gifts and nothing of value to be found.
>>123150098King Diamond is cherished here.
>>123150217>In other words nothing = blasts to yourself. Simply not true lol.Did you listen to the vocaroo I linked? I suppose not since you would realize the beginning 5 seconds is not the same as beginning 30 seconds...This is nitpicking from you and now by me to an absurd level. If you clicked on vocaroo you'd know which bits I have in mind and we wouldn't be having this much confusion.The slow drumming is even louder than blasts(but blasting is constant 'noise' as you say) in the beginning bits that I LINKED.And this is so far from what I originally claimed it's ridiculous. I said that volume doesn't increase with blasts, the guitar volume is already LOUD. Drums don't change much in terms of volume, it just adds depth, variety, complexity, whatever. Anyway I'm done here. Autismo out.
Are Haken worth seeing?They are doing the whole "An evening with.." kind of deal so there wont be any shitty support bands.
>>123150119kek
>>123150364indeed
These guy's life situation is really really bad
>>123150451And how about yours, anon?
>>123150412Norsecuck, do you still remember where you started? "I suppose not since you would realize the beginning 5 seconds is not the same as beginning 30 seconds..."There is no difference between the first 5 seconds and the rest of the song according to yourself, or have you changed position now? There are many different styles of drumming on Kenose II, from almost nothing at the start, to blasts, to light tapping of the cymbal. According to yourself it is all the same. So why are you nitpicking something you deny yourself?
>>123150412>the guitar volume is already LOUDAnd so you accept one of my original propositions right here >>123148116 and here >>123148467? That one could max out the volume with a single long drone and still have dynamics underneath that?Which everyone does, because arguing against that is ad adsurdum, which you took anyways because you want to argue about images on a screen instead of the music before your ears.
>>123150042How is your guitar playing advancing? Record anything?
>>123150053I knew this intuitively but never for sure
>>123150577He’ll never post the riff
>>123147877the album that melanated an entire genre, or so they say...
>>123150577It's not.
>>123150577Nah, shitposting and blasting too much music. I kinda want to get a drum kit as hilarious as that is coming from me, but I'll tell you why: exercising while listening to things like Antaeus makes the music more alive than when in a calm state. I imagine playing drums along with it would provide the same idea judging by how much I see them sweat. However the days go by and I must admit I do feel the need to create rather than consume. Metal is totally exhausted I think, I have basically nothing to learn from this genre anymore, and so my posts become less quality because I have nothing to talk about besides to speak of the same things in a post-African fashion. You see this kind of thing in video reviews and journalists, too much talking and not enough thought! Technically I still need to dive into more industrial and classical before I can create what I want. Industrial is so full of garbage that I l admit I was filtered and gave up. I think its the most low quality genre to ever exist, literally like 9/10 albums in it are a 0-3/10. I'll tell you what, I'll only come on 4chan one hour a day for the next two weeks and I'll see about putting something together.
>>123150787The hds will be insane if you actually do that
>>123150787You have time to write walls of texts of empty blabber here where, but not actually time to compose, record music? Sounds like excuses. /fit/ is also full of people who have are fat fucks with flabby physiques, but they supposedly know everything about nutrition, training. If only they had the time! So they are just giving advice
>>123150819Probably, spends about half the time I'm at work in total HDS syndrome. >>123150831No one said "not enough time", I said I willingly choose to post here instead of practicing or composing. Who are you getting angry at, your own shadows and imaginations?
>>123150787>Industrial is so full of garbage that I l admit I was filtered and gave up. I think its the most low quality genre to ever exist, literally like 9/10 albums in it are a 0-3/10.industrial isn't strictly a musical genre, it's a performance art that involves music to a varying extent and in some cases the music is an afterthought or purposely bad. 99% of it isn't worth your time, including "classics" like TG or most of the Cold Meat Industry projects.
Dave is the main character of metal
>>123150876Ok But this is a filler episode. He can go away for now.
>>123150903Failed analogy attempt
>>123150930>be diabetic>cut your flesh for satan>???>be successfully forgotten
>>123150922He can still go away
>>123150787Your guitar playing reminds me of Jandek.
>>123150954What?
>>123150876Successful analogy attempt
>>123150098I love him so much I wish he was my dad
Slayer
>>123151012he's a pill-popping fat diabetic who cuts himself to own god, and his bands are vanity projects nobody remembers for their music
>>123150787godspeed my liege
noisecore is better than norsecore, prove me wrong; you can't
>>123150869Honestly I don't really want to listen to Industrial as something to enjoy, I'm just there to gain ideas. Brighter Death Now for instance conjures some really neat ideas that overstay their welcome like all indutrial doeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyOGgiimIaEThe electroacoustic thing in this https://youtu.be/mXYa92SJO0g?t=275you hear whispers of this all over MGA by DsO, its small touches that add so much to a piece. I think orchestration is obviously something metal doesn't develop at all, and when it does, it doesn't feel right because its just classical acoustics taped onto its electronic aggressive back. It doesn't belong! Industrial is the only space where we can expand the language of metal. Or this Autopsia track (middle section is all that matters), a train for a riff, and afterwards a deep space, wider than what can been known, deeper than all... out of the darkness I would instead have a thousand roars instead of the marital rhythmshttps://youtu.be/7H_MV1gkAOk?t=122only that one thing is all I care for in the album, just a singular idea. It can even just be for little flourishes and ornamental. I've been posting it recently but even like something small like a hammer striking metal with reverb on it:https://youtu.be/8e5aMt4gxGs?t=110The fucking POWER it gives the music, its amazing. I really like something that helps make you forget that humans are playing capital Music, something that communicates the abstract feelings - to draw you away from the sleep of normality and knowledge that this comes from another.
>>123151085Antaeus - rememberedAosoth - rememberedMartrod - rememberedIf you're a brain damaged disneyqueen you might start forgetting some things, understandable
>>123151092you're in the wrong place then, /metal/ is one of the brownest low IQ third world generals on 4chan
>>123148290based
>>123151226yeah, you bet they're remembered, just not for their music, like I said before. work on your reading comprehension, young grasshopper
>>123151285Why are we talking about them then?
>>123151285>>123151348Actually don't even answer you're the dork funeral kid. Get hit by a bus.
>>123150966Very cool from what I'm hearing. Folk and blues guitar playing has something I was drawn to actually, I was into blues for a while. Richard Dawson is the closest to this Jandek character I've heard, but more frustration and rock-yhttps://richardmichaeldawson.bandcamp.com/track/judas-iscariotMaybe a bit of acoustic Xashur too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMbiJYuw-6QThird wave black metal's open chords, Adam's atonality, finger picking of folk and classical, the connections that form in my mind are many. Anyways, excellent stuffhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9HE2zclKFU
>>123151379>you're the dork funeral kidno, you stupid bitch. and I'll answer anyway, we're talking about them because someone posted the fat cutter who led them.
>>123151609It's posted all the time. For years and years. You're a dumb kid with zero knowledge of metal who thinks he can into proper discourse with sarcastic 4chan wit.
>>123151780post a photo of a cd or vinyl you own
>>123151780you're a silly bitch who demonstrably had no clue what you're talking about until I spelled it out, and now you're going for platitudes. stfu, turn off your phone and go to bed, maybe you'll grow some balls if you dream on for long enough.
>>123151891why?
>>123147816Does hector like Jon Leifs?
>>123152098>remembered not for their musicNo one still knows what the fuck you're going on about.
>>123151891
Anyone else catching this tour? I was already familiar with Goatwhore but I just listened to Vitriol and Necrofier for the first time. Really liking Necrofier. Vitriol I'm not so sure what to make of them
>>123151891>>123151925So I jump through your hoop then you slink off. Worthless
>>123152616I didn't ask you to post anything, only to turn off your phone and go to bed.
how come everyone in this general is always insulting each other
>>123152668I never go to bed
>>1231526904channers don't now how to banter now. Zoomers can only gratuitously shit-fling because they're a trooned out generation. They reward neuroticism and boring edgy e-girl tier memes because they assume that's what this site is about. I blame those niggas who were making video essays about gamergate and the """dark"""" web.
>>123152434>Avoiding California Based
>>123152734I must tip my hat to you good sir
>>123152690right?
>>123152814>I must tip my hat to you good sirI can easily tell that you lurk on reddit more than me. You most likely have an account on there fag.
I wish to be unmongrelized.
>>123148134I don't know how Hector does it, literally every post of his is a projection
>>123152845is it really this easy to bait anons these days.
>>123152845Well played. you're a scholar and a gentleman
>>123152931>>123152845
New Burzum is bad. just not good at all
>>123152955Nah
New Burzum is good. just not bad at all
>>123152955Fallen was the worst one imo, the new stuff is ok.
These guys are coming to town. Should I go see them?
>>123152991>listens to Fallen again after a long timeme likey
Pink Floyd were, at times, proto metal
>>123153209what are you mean
>>123153220Echoes
>>123153209>>123153220https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy4VcnRR5mc&t=193s
>>123153233>Le guys, gutturals were invented in snow countries in the 90s I swea...
>>123152975Has it been officially released? How many tracks does the album have?
>>123150876as guitarist, yes
>>123152991Fallen is his best post-prison album. (NEW) is total garbage even by nu-Varg standards, I hope it's just a quick cashgrab and not him going senile
>>123153290Umskiptar is clearly the best of the new albums.
I still like it idc
>>123153441it's still good bro
>>123152616i went to make and eat my dinner bro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3LN-TMUPdI
>>123153595You're supposed to eat your slop in front of the computer like a subhuman here
what is the most metal thing to eat dinner?
>>123153946Your fork
>>123153963I think a pitchfork or trident would be more fitting.
>>123153963Nice
>>123154005based
Jute Gyte
how the fuck do i do pig squeals/pinch harmonics with vibrato? people can just do it effortlessly. i know how to do pinch harmonics already. i want to do metal style pig squeals though. do i really need a whammy bar?
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1723440973444519.webm
Yet another Chilean masterclass. This rips. What are they putting in the water down there? Any other good recent deathrash recs that I migh've missed?
>>123153441The only good contribution this band ever gave to metal is Davidian
>>123156189They nicked that riff off Disturbing the Priest anyway
I Want You (She's So Heavy) closing riff is heavier than most sabbath desuwith those vocal harmonies? get outta town, nigga.
>>123153441I hate how LITERALLY EVERY song on this album opens with some Robb Flynn yelp like an AUGH! YO! GO! GET UP! BOOOO! Like shut the fuck up Robb holy shit
>>123149083>Kim DotcomThis faggot still alive? Last i've heard of him was 10 years ago hiding in some shithole trying to avoid extradition.
>>123148336kek
>>123155572hit the harmonic and bend the string brah brah
>>123156372nigga i'm trying and it never plays the harmonic just the fundamental
>>123156388only when i bend though, i mean
>>123156388you said you knew how to do pinch harmonics in your original post, did you mean something else?
non-schizo edition when?
>>123156403>>123156399
>>123156328>>123153441A list of every annoying Robb Flynn vocalization at the start of literally every song because he cant just sing the lyrics:>DavidianSsssssha!>OldAugh!>A Thousand LiesGO!>None But My OwnOUGH!>The Rage to Overcomeyyeeeeah>Death ChurchTHAAAAAA>A Nation on FireyyyeeEEEEEooou>Blood for BloodOne-two-three-four-GO!>I'm Your God Now(another instance of) yyeeeeahReal Eyes, Realize, Real LiesWHYYYYYYYYY>BlockyyyyOOOOOO!Also this album has a sickening amount of "GO!"s. Like where the fuck are you going Robb jesus christ
>>123156360Yeah, it's bad
>>123156435>Like where the fuck are you going Robb jesus christTo a BLM march, duh
>>123156388Try a different approach for now. Play natural harmonics but from a note (e.g 12th fret with left little finger touching 15th).
why isnt usbm an official genre but uspm is? it has its own distinctive sound
New Wave of Polish Black Metal
NU>>123156491>>123156491>>123156491
>>123148290>>123150678Best blastings of the thread
