Mendelssohn editionhttps://youtu.be/A-QSXSZRca8>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://pastebin.com/NBEp2VFhPrevious: >>123128037
>though knowing supraphon the sound will be terrible.It's on DG. Though that isn't necessarily better.
John Cage Onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfLvAhEyJ48
>>123164278a piss label recording, nothing could be more terrifying
>classicalNo thanks. I'm not a pedophile.
>>123164250The washiness and whimsicality of our present musical style has been, if not exactly brought about, yet pushed to its utmost pitch by Mendelssohn's endeavour to speak out a vague, an almost nugatory Content as interestingly and spiritedly as possible. Whereas Beethoven, the last in the chain of our true music-heroes, strove with highest longing, and wonder-working faculty, for the clearest, certainest Expression of an unsayable Content through a sharp-cut, plastic shaping of his tone-pictures: Mendelssohn, on the contrary, reduces these achievements to vague, fantastic shadow-forms, midst whose indefinite shimmer our freakish fancy is indeed aroused, but our inner, purely-human yearning for distinct artistic sight is hardly touched with even the merest hope of a fulfilment. Only where an oppressive feeling of this incapacity seems to master the composer's mood, and drive him to express a soft and mournful resignation, has Mendelssohn the power to shew himself characteristic—characteristic in the subjective sense of a gentle individuality that confesses an impossibility in view of its own powerlessness. This, as we have said, is the tragic trait in Mendelssohn's life-history; and if in the domain of Art we are to give our sympathy to the sheer personality, we can scarcely deny a large measure thereof to Mendelssohn, even though the force of that sympathy be weakened by the reflection that the Tragic, in Mendelssohn's situation, hung rather over him than came to actual, sore and cleansing consciousness.
>>123164716merci soeur de wagner
>>123164716so true wagnersister. so true.
Baudelaire:>I found in those of his works which are translated, particularly in Tannhäuser, Lohengrin and the Flying Dutchman, an excellent method of construction, a spirit of order and division which recalls the architecture of ancient tragedies.Whitman:>I am again consumed with regret for knowing I have never had a chance to hear the wonderful operas. I say 'wonderful' because I feel that they are constructed on my lines—attach themselves to the same theories of art that have been responsible for Leaves of Grass.Villiers de l'Isle-Adam:>He is the very man of whom we have dreamed; he is a genius such as appears upon the earth once every thousand years.Mallarme:>Oh strange defiance hurled at poets by him who has usurped their duty with the most open and splendid audacity: Richard Wagner!Strauss:>Tristan does not, as you believe, represent the "dazzling resurrection" of romanticism, but the end of all romanticism, as it brings into focus the longing of the entire 19th century, longing which is finally released in the Tag- und Nachtsgeprach and in Isolde's Liebestod. . . Tristan is the ultimate conclusion of Schiller and Goethe and the highest fulfilment of a development of the theatre stretching over 2,000 years.Hauptmann>[The Ring is] perhaps the most mystifying work of art of the last few thousand yearsJoyce:>There are indeed hardly more than a dozen original themes in world LITERATURE ... Tristan und Isolde is an example of an original theme.Lévi-Strauss:>the undeniable father of the structural analysis of mythJunger:>Thoughts about the mighty mind of the dramatist who breathes artificial breath into past ages and dead cultures so that they move like corpses we can quote. A sorcerer of the highest order who conjures with real blood at the gates of the underworld.Scruton:>Modern high culture is as much a set of footnotes to Wagner as Western philosophy is, in Whitehead’s judgement, footnotes to Plato.
Wagner's real father was a Jewish man called Geyer
>>123164834>Modern high culture is as much a set of footnotes to Wagner as Western philosophy is, in Whitehead’s judgement, footnotes to Plato.This one always makes me laugh.
>>123164278>>123164358It actually sounds pretty good for DG
>>123164716I've always found Wagner's singling out of Mendlesohn to be strange given that he was a christian.
>>123163492I really like it, as well as his Mass. Love his Stabat Mater.>>123163540I try my best to bring it up every few days because I adore it so much.
Two John Cagehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwzduTIy9H0
Tchaikovsky https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0eEcHvtwq0&list=OLAK5uy_nxdmCns449Htpgl6_jbQZexOgZoqw6Nqo
>>123164233NTA but Kertesz has always been my go-to and his is excellent. However, since I always love to try a variety of recordings, I just went on a spree stacking onto my backlog by adding ones by Sawallisch, Ancerl, Wit (listening to this one right now), Herreweghe, Jansons, and Jaarvi, pretty much whichever conductors I saw and generally like. So guess I'll let you know in two weeks which is my favorite lol, but again, the Kertesz is magnificent and you'd be perfectly fine if you only listened to his.
>>123164237>>123165296Thank you, the Kertesz seems promising since I like his Dvorak anyway.
>>123165296>herreweghe>HIP dvorakhow fucking horrifying
>>123165313Hope you enjoy! Don't forget to try out his Mass in D (>>123165090 which contains both), as well as the Stabat Mater, for which I recommend Shaw for a gentler, angelic, choral-focused approach (aka your usual Shaw) as well as Kubelik on the other end of the spectrum with a far more heavily romantic, full-bodied orchestral sound full of passion.>>123165331I don't ever love his recordings but there's no denying that, for what he does, he does a good job, so might as well give it a try, as despite never being among my favorites I usually at least enjoy them for at least the one listen, and if the HIP itch ever strikes, for a lot of works they'd be at the top of list of what I'd choose to play. Basically, to satisfy a decent spectrum of interpretations, I'm glad the HIP recording is by him.
Sibelius https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qczfc0QJAvA&list=OLAK5uy_m9ooRVz1qTqYGf5YFaw2ThuktzjuN0t88
>>123164851Although it was long suspected that Geyer, Wagner's adoptive father, was Jewish, recent analysis has shown that he wasn't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNR9viA99OY
>>123165331Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but the closer to present day you get with the composition date of a work, the less dramatic difference a HIP approach even makes for obvious reasons, no? So I feel like with music made from just before the turn of the 20th century, on those recordings recording you get less Herreweghe the HIPster and more just Herreweghe the talented choral conductor -- of course, many hallmarks of his style remains.
>>123165472i don’t think herreweghe has ever done a “good job”>>123165564false, because HIPsters literally operate on the assumption that string vibrato was invented in the 20th century, so they perform literally everything and anything you can think of without vibrato. it’s fucking horrid.
>>123165059In Wagner's mind Mendelssohn was the best among them, which is what made him so poignant as a subject.
if you dislike Bach Mozart or Beethoven you should not be in this thread
>>123164397you posted that last thread
>>123165665>i don’t think herreweghe has ever done a “good job”I already know you're gonna say it's shit, but this one? Again, not my desert island favorite, but great enough to where it's one of the handful of recordings I deliberately choose from when I wanna listen to Faure's Requiem. Besides, you've listened to a bajillion recordings of Missa Solemnis, including many HIP ones, so why not just give Herreweghe, among some of the others I listed, a try if you're loving Dvorak's Requiem a ton.
>>123165887i don’t really like faure’s requiem that much to begin with. the dvorak surprised me because it’s a truly effective and compelling setting of a sacred text that i normally don’t like very much. i don’t particularly love the verdi requiem and large chunks of the mozart requiem either.
>>123166026Well, fair enough. Glad to hear you like it!
>>123165537Is this why everyone plays La Tombeau de Couperin at fast tempos?
Going through Kitajenko's Shostakovich symphonic cycle. Like I said the other day, I've been interested in non-Russian approaches to the standard repertoire of great Russian symphonies, and despite actually being Russian, Kitajenko is well-known for conducting and interpreting through a German classical lens. I didn't think it worked that well for his Prokofiev cycle, I was not a fan of that, but giving him another try because I've heard high praise for his Shostakovich and so far so good.
Now Playing - John Williams and Peter Hurford Play Bachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkOAXT88DrE&list=OLAK5uy_kVUUqThTn-1pOsy50aJEP92gBbXawGn-Y&index=2
Einojuhani Rautavaara - Symphony No.8 "The Journey"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svgwpfqvuIY
>>123164250TKD.
>>123167058Tonal Kleine Dicke
>>123164250not sure what Jews have to do with classical music. maybe try >>>/lgbt/ instead?
Wojciech Kilar - Orawa for String Orchestrahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzwHLVglbqk
Now Listening:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utqa8JEpDvM
now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0HGOz6-0HI
Fucikhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLhXsH1FGKY&list=OLAK5uy_kkbiKfPuNkK06_zLjdJJ7sG_5fciettDA
Rössler-Rosettihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKAyvWG91Jw&list=OLAK5uy_kmNM_d8oleJdjgk22x_VpVfgwadmxkH_g
Bachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLeXY8Q8TvE
>>123167182He was baptized! He wrote beautiful music is what he did in this thread Mendlesohn is a Christian end of discussion.
>>123167768leopards cannot change their spots.
Danzihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r_hQZWHcHc&list=OLAK5uy_klKYSD8OjWYU6vC_X_uKWJQYs2AJEHcSI
>>123167838put your trip back on, pedophile kraut
>>123168139take your meds, TJ.
>>123168154put your trip back on, groomer germ
>>123167182>>>/pol/
>>123168173It appears that you have mistaken me for someone else.
>>123167838There is neither jew nor gentile all are one in Christ
>>123168201>>123168219we know it’s you, pedophile kraut. put your trip back on.
>>123168227that is an insult to gentiles.
>>123168241who?
>>123168242you, chomo germ. put your trip back on.
Meyerbeerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBQNlNwzwvE&list=OLAK5uy_n1CcySgac1fkUJvQCAvCicvwzT_1tEFOk&index=20
>>123168516Garbagehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyWgXTfPacc&t=2329
>>123167878>>123167527>>123167390>>123167365good stuff, gonna add all of these recordings in a sec
>>123168570>mehler
Purcellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C61ZxzbBrKI&list=OLAK5uy_kvRG3AHu88CBSzQMi42uHGInPvFb-NA4M
now playingstart of Harold en Italie, Op. 16:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4VtR8E_isk&list=OLAK5uy_nvxf_lSVlV8duXjv0Rc60ZqwID-jTANlM&index=1start of La mort de Cléopâtre, scène lyrique:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDiCkdjnR0g&list=OLAK5uy_nvxf_lSVlV8duXjv0Rc60ZqwID-jTANlM&index=6https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nvxf_lSVlV8duXjv0Rc60ZqwID-jTANlM
>>123168241Ignorant slut
Albenizhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iStLIFxPGBw&list=OLAK5uy_mXjfmJzskl0gUWBh_bb8JR4TJaTyZv-Lc
>>123168772I didn't like Colin Davis record of Harold en Italie. Despite being so acclaimed, I thought it was boring.
>>123168957Try this Bernstein one, very exciting. Classic Bernstein flair and excess, especially in the fourth movement of Harold en Italie which teeters right on the edge of going off the rails entirely (or if you don't like Bernstein then maybe it does), but on the whole I find it a great and fun listen. Otherwise you can't ever go wrong with Munch's Berlioz, Op. 16 included:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEqNXTO-KoA&list=OLAK5uy_nmETldUBhQl7jzwbFKwfHvw3_acdeFSpA&index=1https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nmETldUBhQl7jzwbFKwfHvw3_acdeFSpAThe Munch one comes with a bunch of excellent overtures afterwards too.
Poulenc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtmmoX5C5G0&list=OLAK5uy_m9UlfGIgmNnw9Wkqs4AWsGVcqk63BNwDU
>>123168783pedophile kraut>>123168957colin davis’ berlioz is sooooooo boring
another Antoni Wit choral recording, good nightstart of Symphony No. 8 in E-Flat Major "Symphony of a Thousand":https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ8pEBYzP6I&list=OLAK5uy_lm4BtNxe-wsYNhX8f8QT8kC-bFuz32scc&index=1https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lm4BtNxe-wsYNhX8f8QT8kC-bFuz32scc
>>123169016I'm definitely trying those ones. I got Davis Berlioz boxset and none of the works stuck with me.
>>123169278more like MEHler.
>>123169307Hope you enjoy! If I remember correctly, I believe I liked Davis' recording of Berlioz's Requiem but it's not one I'd listen to again, and I listen to the work once every two weeks.
Is there any recording of C.P.E Bach's piano concertos that isn't HIPster nonsense? Tried listening to the Hännsler ones with the shitty apple products on the cover for some reason, its one voice per written section bullshit. If I wanted a string quintet id fucking listen to one. Is there any that utilize a real orchestra?
>>123169776The cover to write home how shitty this recording is.
>>123169799LOL>o shit look at the time, i've gotta listen to CPE Bach
>>123169776>Is there any recording of C.P.E Bach's piano concertos that isn't HIPster nonsense?20th century performers didn't give a shit about him, so no. maybe an odd recording here-and-there but i can't think of any>its one voice per written section bullshitno it isn't, they do use a small orchestra thoughjust be grateful they're using a regular piano and suck it up, the performances are good
>>123169828Small orchestras sound horrid and I don't think they're even historically accurate.
>The only Mahler Symphony I have a problem with is the 6th, the "Tragic". I think that's because it does have a depressing or tragic feeling to it that I, being bipolar, just don't need! But, heck, shucky darns, that doesn't keep me from giving it a run through at least once a month if not more often (I'm determined to keep listening to it until I finally get the hang of it). In this house Mahler probably gets the old platter spinning more than any other composer.cute
>>123169853>and I don't think they're even historically accurate.depends on what you mean, they absolutely used smaller orchestras back then most of the time. as for whether or not the composers wanted a larger orchestra is another story. i don't think the Hännsler recordings are trying to be HIP, if they were they would have used period instruments - they don't. they probably used a smaller orchestra because the audience for CPE is pretty small and most major orchestras wouldn't bother. it's down to budget mostly i imagine
>Commentators have tried to oppose Klemperer and Walter, based on Klemperer's famous comment that Walter was a moralist and he an immoralistWhat did he mean by this? I'm always scintillated and intrigued by such philosophical and metaphysical judgments and categorizations blended into musical practice, in no small part due to it being the kind of lens I'm used to in writings examining literature.
>>123170040he was just trying to be edgy
>>123170056Oh, shame, thought there'd be a really interesting point behind it. By the way, tryin' to decide which M9 to listen to tonight and came across Scherchen's, and saw his is recording is a blisteringly fast 69 minutes total runtime! Which seems right up your alley based on your comments the other day. Any thoughts on it?
>>123170040Basically Klemperer was just saying that Walter was prone to sentimentality and feely weelies in his interpretations unlike Klemperer, who considered himself a modernist his whole life basically.
now playingstart of Symphony No. 5 in E-Flat Major, Op. 82:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwGdYHr5FHo&list=OLAK5uy_lry_rjR6xlWCsoBRC2xETBzlFRqrJy7EM&index=1https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lry_rjR6xlWCsoBRC2xETBzlFRqrJy7EMI feel like I'm right on the verge of finally clicking with Sibelius' symphonies.
>>123170085Not him but since I'm a Scherchen simp I'll give you an answer. Scherchen is a good (if uneven) conductor but basically all of his Mahler is not great. They all suffer from poor sound, even poorer playing, and sometimes outright hostility from the orchestra. He had infamously horrible reherasal time with the Wiener Symphoniker and they were in terrible shape after the war ended. Karajan hogged most of their rehearsals BTW. Anyways, he has some interesting ideas about Mahler but it's a horrible performance. His best Mahler is probably his performance of the 1st with the Royal Philharmonic which has pretty decent playing for the time.
>>123170157Ah that makes perfect sense, thank you. Is that limited purely to formal concerns, or content and meaning as well, as in trying to imbue and impart some kind of moral message or ideas as opposed to purely aesthetic approach? Or is that a silly question to ask for music and doesn't really apply in the same way it does in literature when someone derisively refers to a writer as a 'moralist' or 'sentimentalist?'
>>123170162I recommend going through his symphonies in this order:7, 6, 4, 5, 3, 2, 1
>>123169896I guess that is a big issue too, but I don't even get why he is so underappreciated. I think his style of composition is really cool and he has enough of a influence on composers like Haydn to warrant at least one grand-scale performance.If this disrespect continues, ill become a conductor myself to fix this injustice
>>123170198I see, thanks for the knowledge, guess I'll just stick to his recordings of earlier music. He and Karajan were the principal conductors at the same time or something?
>>123170217Symphonies have one order: ChronologicalUnless you gotta start at the first symphony the composer did right (Tchaikovsky Symphony 4), its best to just start from the first and see the artistic development. It's like listening to Beethoven's 9th as your first work by him.
>>123170253Karajan, Scherchen, and one other conductor (i forget) were the main ones drilling them into shape after the war. Karajan was going all over the place though at that time, he had a very busy career before he settled with Berlin.
>>123170217Funny because I often listen to new cycles from start/first to end/last, lol. I'll give that a try. Plus I think the other issue is, and I hate to say this because I like a lot of his recordings, I just did not care for Blomstedt's Sibelius cycle -- I'm glad I decided to add a bunch of other sets to continue giving it a try.>>123170274Hmm, I think both sides have valid reasoning. On one hand, yes, with the chronological approach you get to listen firsthand to the artistic development of the composer, however on the other, the argument is you want to start with the one that best gets you hooked and thus motivated and excited to try the rest.
>>123169776CPE Bach is one if the most underrated composers imo
>>123171359What are some essential CPE bach besides his piano sonatas
When did they actually stop using harpsichords in orchestral performances?
>>123171907His keyboard concertos are great. Afforementioned Hännsler recordings are good. There was also one that had a few recorded on Organ, that ones good too.
>>123171907I like his Symphonies that are for a full orchestra
>>123164250Where to start with Bruckner, Gluck, and Bellini?
What cd she listen to?
>>123168516>>123168570Battle of the Jewish composers
>>123169888Are bipolar people really like this? They actively avoid tragic or sad stuff?
>>123172414Symphony 7, Orfeo ed Euridice and I Capuleti e i Montecchi.
>>123172311Was it ever as common as HIPsters pretend?
>>123172994Thank you. Added Mayerbeer to my avoid list.
Now listening to:https://youtu.be/dne2KSqLBnw
mendelssohn string quartets
>>123165665>i don’t think herreweghe has ever done a “good jobPic rel may be the one
>>123171907Trio sonatas.
>>123173021>Orfeo ed EuridiceI should have specified besides that one. That's the only thing of his that I know. (It's great, btw.)
>>123174210it's not a bad Schutz recording but I prefer others. Vox Luminis and Mauersberger are my favsHerreweghe is at his best in the Bach Cantatas, i find him somewhat boring outside of there.
>>123174245Did he write any of his trio sonatas in that proto-sonata form he uses in his piano sonatas?
>>123174260Funny, I find Herreweghe particularly dull in the Bach Cantatas. Really underpowered.
>>123174250Then I'm sure you can figure it out yourself.
>>123168242So quoting one of Paul's Epistles is offensive to gentiles?
>>123174250Besides that there's the two Iphigenias and Alceste.
>Isntrael Philharmonic Orchestra
Liszthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmfp1WzVOuA&list=OLAK5uy_mb43hTUrE_k8LgqQNPVmEUN1H1DcMIskE&index=2
>>123174210added, thanks>>123174334Suzuki is my man for HIP cantatas
let's start the day withThe Water Goblin. Symphonic poem, Op. 107:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx3pY0TMXW0&list=OLAK5uy_nMG8rR1reRAa3Y_bCNaHT3WAo8Yv7WN98&index=2The Noon Witch. Symphonic poem, Op. 108:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qia_Gam8Vtg&list=OLAK5uy_nMG8rR1reRAa3Y_bCNaHT3WAo8Yv7WN98&index=3The Golden Spinning Wheel. Symphonic Poem after K. J. Erben, Op. 109:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn6rDbAJ6sg&list=OLAK5uy_nMG8rR1reRAa3Y_bCNaHT3WAo8Yv7WN98&index=4The Wild Dove. Symphonic poem, Op. 110:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx_swxz3568&list=OLAK5uy_nMG8rR1reRAa3Y_bCNaHT3WAo8Yv7WN98&index=4https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nMG8rR1reRAa3Y_bCNaHT3WAo8Yv7WN98
>>123174915plain nasty
>>123175077I'd be lying if I didn't admit one small subconscious part of my affinity for Suzuki is because we're both Asian.
For Bach, or any Baroque music really, I stick to East-German recordings. Nobody did it better.
>>123175108if you aren't also japanese you have really no reason to sympathize with him, not anymore than a frenchman or german would simon rattle.
>>123175267lol
>>123175311it’s true. imagine if some fucking bulgarian dude came up to you and send “i sympathize with christian thielemann because we’re both european”. you’d be fucking weirded out.
>>123173002it's normal to avoid things you don't enjoy like you wouldn't listen to emotionally immature teenage angst stuff like linkin park or you wouldn't watch horror movies if you don't enjoy it
Are there any Japanese composers worth listening too.
>>123175255Like?
>>123175854Rotzsch, Pommer
>>123175890Thanks, added a handful of recordings from each.
>>123175760Are there any Japanese composers doing western formal music to begin?I can only think of Koichi Sugiyama, but he worked mostly on video games.
>>123176086toru takemitsu is the most famous as far as real art music (and not video game soundtrack crap) goes, but he’s not very good
now playingstart of Symphony No. 15 in A Major, Op. 141:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2OzNMETcFs&list=OLAK5uy_lWw8kpaH4mbQOCfYwiTGUH8a1NXnhS6Kw&index=1start of Piano Sonata No. 2 in B Minor, Op. 61:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cVvDZH20QM&list=OLAK5uy_lWw8kpaH4mbQOCfYwiTGUH8a1NXnhS6Kw&index=6https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lWw8kpaH4mbQOCfYwiTGUH8a1NXnhS6Kw
>>123176127Sugiyama had a prolific career as a conductor before working on video games, retardo.
>>123176303not /classical/, try >>>/mu/ instead
>>123176142Much like his String Quartet no. 15, this is pretty much 'ambient classical.' I'm honestly a little jealous of people who find this kind of slow-moving, sparse, and atmospheric texture music to be deeply moving, because it ain't for me. The Piano Sonata no. 2 is excellent though.
>>123176426Sugiyama had a prolific career as an orchestra conductor.
>>123176470It's a spammer
>>123176470>From the late 1960s to the early 1980s, Sugiyama composed for several musicals, commercials, kayōkyoku pop artists, animated movies, and television shows, such as Science Ninja Team Gatchaman: The Movie, The Sea Prince and the Fire Child, and Cyborg 009. He also assisted Riichiro Manabe with the composition for Godzilla vs. Hedorah, composing the record single of the soundtrack and conducting for some of the tracks. Sugiyama also wrote the 1976 single Heart Dorobō for the Japanese pop trio Candies.not /classical/, try >>>/mu/ instead
>>123176518Try the japanese version of the wiki.>NHK Symphony Orchestra>He provided the "Audio Symphony No. 1" (1976) and "Audio Symphony No. 2" (1977) on commission. The opening of the fourth movement of the first symphony was also used as the opening theme for the "Introduction to Audio Skills Course " program broadcast on NHK Educational TV at the time . >He was commissioned to provide "Dances for Strings I & II." These are rare purely musical pieces among his compositions. They were re-recorded by the London Philharmonic Orchestra in 1991.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoBh9dcisnU&list=PLCQOcFY5pq3onkTdNUvFWbYy2pbPoduFt>Tokyo Metropolitan Brass Quintet>"Brass Quintet Suite - for the Tokyo Metropolitan Brass Quintet" premiered on February 4, 2009
>>123176518Virgin
>>123176584still not /classical/, try >>>/mu/ instead>>123176633>not /classical/: :|>not /classical/, japan: :o
Sistershitter needs to realize he doesn't get to label what's classical or not and we will post OST classical track regardless of seethe it causeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t9eL-5wMFc
>>123176518Movie music later Video Game music is how Classical music as an artform survive you drooling retard.
fug it, gonna listen to the Gielen cycle. fortunately I monumentally adore the 1st, so it makes starting with any new cycle a wonderful treat from the very start.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYah6t2cHr4&list=OLAK5uy_kHr8VFNFa3Gs5q3AznbLuEREgespomMLU&index=1
>>123176709>classical is not classicalok retardo
>>123176727>>123176765>>123176768not /classical/, try >>>/mu/ instead
>>123176823Not music try >>>/lgbt/ instead
>>123176823Why isn't orchestral video game and movie music classical?
>>123176841Excellent question sister
>>123176841why isn't me shitting and farting myself /classical/?
>>123176841It is.
>>123176899you didn't answer the question why isn't orchestral music composed for video games and movies Classical?>>123176973I agree I'm just wondering how someone can hold such a retarded position.
>>123176973not /classical/, try >>>/mu/ instead
Ewazenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCmYQhHQvuU&list=OLAK5uy_lBV_RwPpbVIlhYX5aSDsisFOKndocBXwg>>123176841I do agree that video game/film soundtracks don't fit here, as they are more akin to baroque/chamber pop works. But if the guy was a legit composer before working on entertainment, I don't see the problem.
>>123176985why isn't ariana grande classical? why isn't radiohead classical? why isn't classical whatever i want it to be? do you have any more retarded questions to ask me?
>>123177003I agree from an thread organizational perspective that orchestral video game and movie music probably don't belong in /classical/ as a thread but in classical as a genre I think they do>>123177020So I Ms. Grande composed a piano sonata it wouldn't belong here, or if Radio head composed a tight fugue for 2 electric guitars bass and piano it wouldn't belong?
>>123177162if they composed it and distributed it as sheet music to be performed by performers and not as records to be sold directly to the consumer, yes. but they don’t and won’t, because they’re not /classical/.
>>123177196>they don’t and won’tUmmm?
>>123177334this is obviously not the primary method of distribution for max martin’s songs, you retard. there are lots of recordings of composers performing their own music too, but they’re still classical because sheet music is still their primary method of distribution.
>>123177354So youre saying that a modern composer's primary method of distribution is sheet music? Interesting take.
>>123177393yes, you fucking idiot. have you interacted with modern composers at all? the vast majority of their interactions are with performers because that’s who pays them, either through commissions or purchasing sheet music, and the only people interested in modern composition anyways are said performers and other composers doing the exact same thing. go to a new music concert sometime and you’ll see this play out in real life.
>>123177434Milton Babbitt has over a hundred thousand plays on spotify you mongoloid you're telling me that there exist over 100k plus however many physical copies of recordings he sold, copies of his sheet music floating around? As I said interesting take.
>>123177512no, because performers obviously only buy a score of given piece once while spotify counts every single play of the same recording regardless of how many times the same person has listened to the same track. i’ll bet good money that there are a lot more than 100k performances of babbitt’s music, both public and private.
now playingEn Saga, Op. 9:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv8O0aBUPGU&list=OLAK5uy_nWzOPN28gu7J5PCy48bD9O8W6SgGsstzs&index=2Symphony No. 7 in C Major, Op. 105:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGEcDI8liY0&list=OLAK5uy_nWzOPN28gu7J5PCy48bD9O8W6SgGsstzs&index=2https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nWzOPN28gu7J5PCy48bD9O8W6SgGsstzsGilbert / NYP recordings never disappoint!
>>123177591one of the only modern “performer on the cover” album artworks where the performers are actually properly dressed.
>>123177555You think there were more than a 100k plus however many cds his music sold, live performances, as in times played for the enjoyment of oneself or others not including practice, of Milton "Who Cares if You Listen" Babbitt's work? That's more than 1100 a year, very Interesting take
>>123177656i can absolutely imagine there being more than a thousand performances a year worldwide of babbitt’s music, if we count private practice or rehearsal as “performance”.
>>123177625I think it's just ripped from some kind of promo ad or poster and then slapped together for streaming site release.
>>123177676But reminder we are not talking just Spotify plays, we're also talking plays on Apple Music, Youtube, plus CDs records 8 tracks etc. I very strongly doubt that Milton Babbitt is heard live more than in recording.
>No one has heard EVERY recording of Bruckner's 5th - there are hundreds of performances of this symphony listed on John Berky's website - so to be safe, claims that a recording is "the best" ought to be avoided.>...>To hell with that! This is the best Bruckner 5th I've ever heard! Of the 50+ recordings I own, not one has ever bettered this live 1991 performance. What an unexpected thrill - Barenboim's other Bruckner recordings don't hint at the majesty herein. He outperforms many of my favorite conductors (including Furtwängler, Jochum, Abendroth, Kempe, Knappertsbusch, Horenstein, Schuricht, Matacic, Rosbaud, Konwitschny, Wand) as well as other conductors who had received positive reviews (Karajan, Harnoncourt, Haitink, Eichhorn, Pflüger, Klemperer, Tintner, Asahina, Chailly, Welser-Möst, etc). This is by far my favorite Barenboim performance of anything, and one of my favorite recordings PERIOD.>Jean Sibelius, upon first hearing Bruckner's 5th, said "Yesterday I heard Bruckner's 5th Symphony and it moved me to tears. For a long time afterward I was completely transported. What a strange and profound spirit, formed by a religious sense... as something no longer in harmony with our time." Furtwängler proclaimed the Finale of the 5th to be the most thrilling piece of symphonic music ever written. I'll up the ante: this is the greatest symphony written since Beethoven's 9th.>If you're not convinced of this work's status as a masterpiece, please hear this recording. If you ARE convinced, please hear this recording. If you enjoy music-making at the very highest level, I implore you: please hear this recording!Holy Based
>>123177676>>123177810Forgot to add: And Milton Babbitt is a deeply unpopular composer I can guarantee you a at least 100 times more people have heard more popular composers in recording than in a live performance.
>>123177810i don’t think you realize how many times a performer has to hear (ie. play) the same piece over and over again before they’re ready to perform it in front of an audience, especially with music as nauseatingly difficult as babbitt’s. a simple mozart sonata is probably practiced hundreds of times by a pianist before they would be comfortable with performing it; imagine how many thousands of times a single performer would have to rehearse babbitt’s partitions before it would be at a performable standard. and this is just for solo pieces; ensemble works have to be rehearsed both by individual members of the group and as a full ensemble. your average string quartet has all 4 members learning the parts individually and then playing it together, effectively multiplying the number of rehearsal hours by 5. orchestral works take that even further and divide the players by sections, so the order of rehearsal goes individual > section > full ensemble. an orchestral work easily has hundreds of man hours per minute put into rehearsing it. this whole “which one is heard more” argument is fallacious anyways because “number of plays” has never been the metric by which primary distribution is determined. milton babbitt does not write his music to be heard by the end consumer (seriously, what did you expect from mr. “who cares if you listen”?), he writes it first and foremost for performers who perform it for the end listener. this is how classical music has always worked; even when composers were commissioned by royalty, they worked with performers when writing their works, not the commissioners, because the commissioners aren’t the ones who have to put up with unidiomatic writing. >>123177872hilariously irrelevant.
>>123177625>properly as in normalfag black tie>goodKEKWhat a pleb
>>123177907a): that’s white tie, idiotb): white tie has been proper orchestral attire for 2 centuries. what do you prefer, applebees waiter?
>>123177887What exactly do you mean by "primary distribution" if its not how most people hear a piece than what is it exactly?
>>123177918>what do you prefer, applebees waiter?Not that anon, but hey! :(
>>123177926the primary channel of communication through which composers (not the performers) distribute their music. >>123177927if you wear dark colored dress shirts with slim fitting chinos you are an applebees waiter.
>>123177935>the primary channel of communication through which composers (not the performers) distribute their music.An Idiosyncratic definition but I can see where you're coming from and what you're getting at.
>>123177918>that’s white tieWho cares, still normalfag boring dress.>proper orchestral attire for 2 centuries.Again who cares? We've also been living in mudhuts before civilization, for hundreds of centuries lol.
Ave Maria gracia plenahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cROTOju5oEc&list=OLAK5uy_lXkPv-scjxJthITsbX1hMCqcwPPcBz55U&index=3written by me
>>123178014the other thing to note as well is that classical music is composer centric, whereas popular music is performer centric. note that the ariana grande song you posted wasn’t even written by ariana grande, but no one is >>123178020buddy, no one even wears white tie anymore aside from heads of state, literal royalty, and some (mostly european) orchestras who’ve stuck to tradition. it’s about as far from normal as you can get in 2024. and you still haven’t said what you’d prefer over white tie. the only performance attire i’ve seen from professional performers that isn’t black or white tie is typical business casual/chillis waiter crap that’s indistinguishable from the attire you see in every financial of every major city in the world but in black (which is even worse), so if that’s what you prefer, roflmao
>>123178014>>123178142*but no one is celebrating max martin in spite of his songwriting chops far outweighing any of the singing chops of any of the singers he’s ever written for.
>>123174818He looks very suspicious
>>123177935>if you wear dark colored dress shirts with slim fitting chinos you are an applebees waiter.I'm insulted because I do work as a waiter in a restaurant (Applebee's for a few years a while back too actually) :( working on my novel and poetry on the side tho
>>123178229to that i say, there’s a difference between being forced to wear it as your uniform and willingly choosing to wear it in spite of a tradition of far more elegant and flattering clothing for the same purpose.
>>123177887Explain for the folks at home who Milton Babbitt is
>>123178293https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y62pUMyfa8QAn unimportant retard who's barely played any more.
>>123178289tru, I wasn't agreeing with the other anon's posts or whatever point he was trying to make
>>123175003These are amazing names-I might actually listen to these later-what even is a water goblin?
>tfw don't live in the universe where M*hler finished his piano quartet and composed a violin concerto:((((
>>123178293forgotten. >>123178378if it makes you feel any worse, we have proof he composed a full violin sonata in his school years that has been lost to time.
>>123178142>aside from heads of state, literal royalty, and some (mostly european) orchestras who’ve stuck to tradition.LOL is that why every office wagie wear those suits? It's normalfag and looks outdated.>you still haven’t said what you’d prefer over white tie.Individual style for each body/face of course. No one should stick to some outdated wagie dress
>>123178463>LOL is that why every office wagie wear those suits? wagies don’t even wear suits anymore, they wear slim fitting dress pants/chinos and dress or polo shirts without a jacket. that’s not even a suit, nevermind white tie. >Individual style for each body/face of coursehilarious copout, most people have no idea how to dress themselves whatsoever and concerts would be incredibly distracting if retards just waltzed on stage wearing their lounge clothes. dress codes exist for a reason.
>>123172311>>123169853>>123169776SEXOOOO
>>123178444>>123165665Imagine if pic turns out to be good!
>>123178600no, i don’t want to imagine.
>>123178600The Schoenberg re-orchestration is kinda interesting. Very un-Mahlerlike, so doubt I'll ever listen to it again, but a neat novelty.
>>123178630>>123178605whoops meant to quote
Is there any score writing program that isn't made by an irish faggot commie but also not unusable shit like sibelius? Do i just need to write on pen and paper at this point?
let's get choralhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_ac8ye94BI&list=OLAK5uy_lgn3LqCATgSlxRtTpr2XxVZ5c_d4aRwTE&index=1
>>123178755finale and dorico exist, avatar tranny
>>123178378>>123178444Probably as mediocre and forgettable as all his other works
>>123178776>Probably [...] mediocre and forgettableImagining this to be the case and it makes me feel better about missing out, thanks anon!
>>123178503>hilarious copout, most people have no idea how to dress themselves whatsoever and concerts would be incredibly distracting if retards just waltzed on stage wearing their lounge clothes. dress codes exist for a reason.What are you the fashion police? And no it would be only distracting if your easily distracted
>>123178822does complaining about bad classical music make you the classical police? no? then i guess i’m allowed to criticize sloppy attire in concert. >it would be only distracting if your easily distractedit looks distracting because it looks bad, and i care about things looking good. not that hard to understand.
>>123178906Saying most people don't how to dress themselves is a) ridiculous andb) implies you are some kind of authority on fashion, that there is a right way and a wrong way to dress that you are aware and most people fail to meet your high standards. >>123178906It'd be very mildly distracting for about 5 minutes due to the novelty of it then you'd forget about it.
>>123178992it’s really not. most people simply do not care about clothes, why should they be expected to know how to dress well?>that there is a right way and a wrong way to dressi believe that there is such a thing as a good outfit vs a bad outfit, yes. i believe the same thing with music, paintings, literature, and food too, so why is it so preposterous to presume that good and bad exist in clothing?>then you'd forget about it.no, not really. you don’t know me, so you wouldn’t know what i would do.
I don't really have a dog in this race but I would like to see Yuja Wang and other(attractive) female musicians dress more sluttishly
>>123179058braindead retard
>>123179130Dress more sluttishly, like your mum
Based
>>123179172mindless moron
>>123179201Your mum's a whore and your dad's a transvestite
>>123179208gormless idiot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQBBEWmrkks
>>123179026>i believe that there is such a thing as a good outfit vs a bad outfit, yes. i believe the same thing with music, paintings, literatureYou should also realize it is partly subjective.
>>123179058BASED/Queen/
>>123175255https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIokzBQEnTQ&list=OLAK5uy_kUP-RmUyD-0Hk7GHZltqtQfX3sYOgFZ8Q&index=24based ETERNAchad
>>123179472there are pretty objective rules with regards to silhouette and fit as far as western dress goes, and when you take into account western tradition regarding formality and occasion (which is all the more relevant in the performance practice of an art form entirely built on the back of tradition), there is really no room for debate.
Sonata No. 23 in F Minor, Op. 57 "Appassionata": III.Glen Gould https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U9oyjafVyE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjlT75uTc_U
>>123179540>shitposting at Columbia's expensekinda based
>>123179512I really don't have a problem with coomerposting on 4chan, but goddamn of all the female idols of fixation I've seen over the years on this site across many boards and divergent groups, yours may be the least attractive of them all by far, I just don't get it unless you're solely meme-ing but I know most aren't.
Favorite recordings of any of Bruckner's masses? Listening to this one right now. Last one I listened to was Cleobury / King's College, also of no. 2 / Mass in E minor, and it was fantastic.
I wish Walter's German Requiem was in stereo.
>>123179594https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkIy936zQ-A&list=OLAK5uy_m1a3l-MzBJBPGIIbtgbmWLrAO--2Fomks&index=4
>>123179563>you're solely meme-ingNo shit sherlock
>>123179858Well, for your sake, I am glad :D
>>123179882Lol
>>123175003Well I now know what a water goblin is and the moral of the story-don't be abducted by goblins
>>123180146>spammer enters /classical/
>>123180245
>>123180146What happens next in this image?>>123180333lmfao
>>123180352She gets abducted by a water goblin who collects souls in a teacup and he brings her back to his underwater kingdom of enslaved souls to be his bride. She gets married to him with crayfish as the bridesmaids as grooms and such. She gives birth to his baby but he becomes enraged when she sings the baby a lullaby. She tries to calm him down and be allowed to visit her mother. The goblin agrees but she has to leave her baby as a hostage, be back by the evening bells and not touch anyone. She goes to her mother but doesn't come back by the bells and her mother keeps telling the goblin to fuck off. The goblin becomes enraged and in the morning she finds the decapitated corpse of her baby on the doorstep, along with its head.
>>123180428Oh those classic folktales do it to me everytime! Thank you for sharing, hope you enjoyed the Dvorak recording.
>>123180607Yeah it's pretty good, I'll listen to the rest tonight probably
>>123179512So fucking lame and embarrassing
Tchaikovskyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zuff4VhSFtI&list=OLAK5uy_k3GmYgv-B9aQ38RoFabm9_PT5KGEUyoG4
Maho sexo...O-oh, sci-fi classical please?
>>123182639Maybe some Isao Tomita?
Continuo is uneccesary and is musically obstructing I realized
>>123183975Is there any example of actually creative continuo playing that isn't just someone smashing down chords?
Were the brandenburg concertos the first real symphonies?Also on the topic, is there any recording that doesnt have a harpsichord and uses a actual symphony orchestra?
>>123185591https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TBJiwgLh08&list=OLAK5uy_nmbRu42NT8zhz0TnQ4MCfPyUzhEt3ZP8ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Pwyusvz53Q
>>123185591>is a concerto actually a symphony?the absolute state of /classical/
>>123185763Its a decent question. They have instrumentation more on par with classical symphonies. Not to mention the fact that theyre not nearly as soloist centric as other concertos by Bach
skimmed through this general as a newfag and I feel even more confused, found no new music to listen to.
>>123185953by this retard logic, overtures and incidental music must be symphonies too since their instrumentation is usually no different. how idiotic.
>>123184161The Currentzis Mozart opera recordings have improvised continuo
>>123186040Mate there are 30+ pictures of albums, and 48 youtube link. Besides, there's FAQ and you can always ask for recs. Are you interested in concertos, solo piano works, symphonies, chamber music or...?
>>123186061>The opera sinfonia, or Italian overture had, by the 18th century, a standard structure of three contrasting movements: fast, slow, fast and dance-like. It is this form that is often considered as the direct forerunner of the orchestral symphony. The terms "overture", "symphony" and "sinfonia" were widely regarded as interchangeable for much of the 18th century.
>>123186040If you're trying to get into classical: start with the baroque period. Concertos are generally easy to get into, any one of Bach's concertos are good to start with.
>>123185591>>123185637It sounds so much better without a harpsichord. Did Bach really intend for one or is it a HIPster lie like most modern performance things?
>>123186294a case could be made for the musical offeringhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stKDfjq2llY&list=PLSpD8DHLVDm2nl94YoJU92d4m_0jNf-MS&index=16
>>123186194symphonies, intense ones like vivaldi's four seasons. I like a lot of vivaldi come to think of it.
>>123186377>>123186294Bach did not even specify continuo on the score of the Brandenburg concerto. Its legit just a bunch of HIPsters pretending that Bach implied it and forced it upon every modern recordingTraditional recordings ironically follow the score better than the "historically informed" crowd.
>>123185637Is there any stereo recording?
>>123185637do hisstards really>>123186210sinfonia and overture have always been interchangeable, but the symphony has always been distinct from either of the two. no one refers to mozart's jupiter as an overture, for fuck's sake. also, missing the point regarding instrumentation not being the end all be all regarding classical genre classification. >>123186402lmao
>>123186431Which traditional recordings?
>>123186449Name a good modern recording that fits his description then, HIPster
>>123186456The one I replied to nimwit
>>123186465you can hate HIP without being a retarded farthuffing turdwrangler
>>123186506>Gets asked to name a recording>Doesn't and proves him rightkwab
>>123186478Oh. The musical offering one is nice but I find Furtwangler to be too slow in Bach
>>123186449Not missing the point at all. The symphony literally derives from the Italian Overture, and you act as though comparing the two is "idiotic". THAT is idiotic. There's a word for people like you: posers.
>>123186516>you proved me right about shiteater because i say so!ok lol, dont care>>123186580derived != equivalent to. the fugue was developed from renaissance polyphony too, but no one has any delusions of them being equitable. and you're still missing the point
>>123186590The only difference between an Italian Overture and a Symphony is a Menuet.And Renaissance polyphony is not a form, it's a style.
>>123186640so there is a difference then. thanks for proving me right. >And Renaissance polyphony is not a form, it's a style.forms didn't exist in the renaissance aside from mass or motet, but all imitative counterpoint is obviously derived from the renaissance style, including and especially fugues and canons. don't be disingenuous.
>>123186449>no one refers to mozart's jupiter as an overture, for fuck's sakePeople literally have refered to Symphony no. 32 as an Overture however. So what is it? A symphony or an overture? because according to you it can't possibly be both.
Liszthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec1LBvw-Mn0&list=OLAK5uy_mg-1w_jDzsA6EG4-NTj8Zkp5I8zzQ6wz4
>>123185637This might be the first time the Brandenburg Concertos ever sounded good to me. Never doubt Furtwangler!
>>123186739>The form is not a true italian overture or a da capo overture. The first movement unfolds as if in sonata form, with no expositional repeat.
>>123186739it's a symphony. the people referring to it as an overture are obviously wrong. even wikipedia explicitly states that it is not a true italian overture.
>>123186752Thanks, just added this recording and am now listening to it too.
Torrejon y Velascohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uaOP46Ns0w&list=OLAK5uy_kBXcOkFePrmMwngU6lMXc82RNPM-KkosY>>123186769good
>>123186402Four Seasons is a concerto. I would suggest Bach's concertos, literally what >>123186213 suggested, Brandeburg concertos.https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLr0MsaDpKsY_tytq9w7Sexd9DX6RPMnthYou might also enjoy orchestal suiteshttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_khbhPcgI0h0cxUdB-bAS-9CyjnMzSv0_s
Returned to this after some time and many, many other recordings and deep familiarity with the work later, and... it's actually rather mediocre. Sad. Still on the quest to the find the perfect or ideal 9th.
Vaughan WIlliamshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSBxBbsTDFI&list=OLAK5uy_nfcsi_F5OZgRcMX8eENUTPr7QiLIlxZYk
>Arvo Pärt was the most performed living composer in the world from 2011 to 2018, but then the second-most performed composer, after John Williams.grim
>>123186903I've literally never even heard of them and I thought I was decently familiar with classical already. Am I retarded?
>>123186903Minimalism is pretty popular, not surprised
>>123186873wait until you find out that "rather mediocre" describes pretty much everything abbado did with berlin and lucerne. >>123186921john williams isn't classical, but how the fuck have you not heard of him? do you live under a rock?
>>123186937>Star Wars, Harry PotterrOh. I just forgot what he was called. Anyway film scores are often performed live so I guess it makes sense that they're popular.
>>123186937>wait until you find out that "rather mediocre" describes pretty much everything abbado did with berlin and lucerne.Just off the top of my head, I'll still defend his Brahms BPO box set, but as far as M*hler goes, yeah I have no desire to revisit any recordings from those cycles ever again. Occasionally one or two from the Chicago one though, maybe I should listen to the 9th from that.
>>123187106sorry, I meant the Vienna 9th*
>>123187106I thought people liked Abbado's Brahms cycle?
>>123178755>>123183975
>>123187330I very much like it.>>123187393lol
>>123180768You take that back, bitch!
>>123187393do you "lol sex with anime children" spammers ever even tried to have sex irl or did you give up before you even started
>>123186431it's almost like those "HIPsters" know of the cultural context of the time and that not everything was written down in score like later became commonplace.
>>123187611I'm married lol I have a healthy sex life
>>123186760this might work as a retardation diagnosis as well
>>123187631why lie online?
now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lttiz9KyMhA&list=OLAK5uy_mRO7HRVNEf__IOHa-fTlbXTXJ8RjbaoZw&index=1https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mRO7HRVNEf__IOHa-fTlbXTXJ8RjbaoZw
>>123187624>c-cultural contextNo written keyboard part, no keyboard. Simple as, HIPster. 5th brandenburg has it, there you can make an argument.
>>123187640Most recordings of the Brandenburg Concertos to me sound too foreign, too dressed up in antiquated sounds and ornaments as to come across more like a historical artifact than actual enjoyable music. That Furtwangler recording, however, resonates and appeals to the senses in a seamless, artistically relevant way to me. Bach as music.
Other good traditional recordings of Messiah? There seems to be a wealth of them for Haydn's The Creation but much more difficult to find or a dearth of them for this work.
>>123188171Karl Richter had a good balance.
now playingstart of Shostakovich - Symphony No. 4 in C minor, Op. 43:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGq3qmtOduM&list=OLAK5uy_mghGwwEcYBOefeogurLFtle8nyVElhSZQ&index=1https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mghGwwEcYBOefeogurLFtle8nyVElhSZQ
>>123188329https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5akDm-kLjg
The problem with Karl Richter is that he's really too rhythmically slack and metronomic in tempo. I know there are people that prefer Bach that way, but it's just not for me.
>>123187611we should honestly be thankful that these literal pedophiles aren’t interested in sex in real life. >>123187631no one believes this, not even you. >>123186760>>123188171insanely embarrassing>>123189139holy shit lol a turdswallower complaining about slack tempo LMFAO
>>123189189>holy shit lol a turdswallower complaining about slack tempo LMFAOI don't like Furtwangler in Bach either.
>>123189199then what do you like, faggot?
now listening to:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq4wN39Mhsw
>>123188701Thank you, listened to a bit and sounds great. Right before you posted however I found pic and am listening to it right now; Sargent's will be for next time!fun fact: this recording has been added to the Library of Congress as one of those significant music recordings worth preserving
top kekkle
>>123189374I've been slowly getting into his reccs and been enjoying them he's not as good as the old penguin guides but he's still pretty good
>>123189404Yeah me too. I've been searching up works on his site and trying out the highest rated recordings or the reference recordings outlined at the bottom of other reviews in order to spare this general from the spam of my requesting recommendations all the time. Definitely has far more hits than misses.
>>123189412>>123189412>>123189412New thread!
>>123189210fucking ur mom lol
