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Fool of a Took edition
Previous Thread: >>123896498

>Production Resources:
https://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q
https://pastebin.com/p2QUqMzj

>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributors
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com

Use vocaroo to post WIPs.
No youtube, soundcloud and other shilling websites allowed
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https://voca.ro/1cuiH4IaZBxG

Dub thing I’ve been working on. Any feedback welcome
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>>123923604
penis music?
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>>123923613
Dick dub
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finally dipping my toe into dnb/jungle do we hate it? https://voca.ro/199m18YsHD27
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>>123923732
Sounds like an ad/sample for a sample collection.
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what to do where to go ???
i may never know! D:

https://vocaroo.com/11T6V1jpbNNV
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It's up on Sweetwater.
>16 step sequencer
I really hope we can get multiple pages of 16steps per pattern, but it doesn't seem that way. Hopefully we'll get clarification when Ableton officially release their info.
>>123924095
Rippin'
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everytime i see an anime pic i don't listen to the song. I know it's gonna be some ranny shit
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>>123924240
same
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You guys wanna come over and record in my shitty closet booth I put together today? I have snacks and I'm somewhat tolerable to be around. Post pics of recording space.
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>>123924540
What kind of snacks?? I cook shitty beats in my kitchen if that makes you feel any better
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>>123924540
only if you rape me in the middle of my take
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>>123924571
i have that portastudio however it's almost impossible to find cassettes here
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>>123924628
>>123924571
also the first channel doesn't work but i can just bounce a track to it and it's like having four channels
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>>123924628
Where do you live? You can just order blanks off the interwebz. I’ve had it for about 10 years now but just recently started using it again. It’s cool, gives a nice warm sound to things. Glad you can still bounce to it.
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>>123924699
brisbane and yes i have looked online and you can buy bulk which is handy. but my city is so creatively and artistically bankrupt, there is one main music shop here.
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>>123923732
Less vocal samples. I like the synth a lot. Maybe try chopping up the breaks differently. Bass sounds good
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>>123924737
Sounds like a hellscape. CREATE YOUR OWN SCENE MAAAN
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>>123924765
the only scene here is fucking real estate development and property hoarders. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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https://vocaroo.com/1amwcLN4fTI1
just started this
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nerd

https://vocaroo.com/1mvKE5v0uDaF
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>>123925261
No sleep. Study the Move Manual.
https://www.ableton.com/en/move/manual/
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im finally understanding amp setups and how guitarists can run pedals into multiple heads. some will have a cab dedicated to cleans which they run their distortions into, and another cab dedicated to high gain where only dynamic and modulation effects will run into (or no effects at all). i'm also seeing people say you can run distortions into high gain heads but when i do that, it just breaks the signal to something unusable and not fun to play so im not sure what exactly they're doing but im happy just running clean amps with my fuzz and rat pedals now.
im using orange heads but also a fan of the fender heads. 4x12 cabs
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>>123925280
but it's almost 3 and i have to get up at 6 to continue my self destructive cycle........

>>123925285
yeah dude just look at the diagrams on the one guitar gear autism website lol
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>>123925297
still doesn't make sense why i can't get my rat and big muff to work in a high gain amp when it looks like others can. i am forever lost on this subject but i dont give a shit anymore, i found something that works and sounds good so im sticking to it.
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>>123925305
Typically they're looking to boost the signal or slightly change the tone going in rather than overly distorting into more heavy distortion; usually people doing overdrives or very light gains on their distortion pedals for the same purpose.
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>>123925316
i just wonder why they wouldn't do that with an eq pedal or run a clean amp and adjust the parameters on the distortion pedal.
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>>123925280
Maximum clip length of 16 bars! yay.
16 steps * 16 bars = 256 steps
>>123925297
>but it's almost 3
Same...I need to get up for work too.
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>>123925322
>with an eq pedal
using the filters on either your rat or big muff are going to sound different than a similar setting on EQ, and that's already ignoring whatever distortion is added

likewise, the distortion on your pedal alone is not going to be the same as what nicer amps are capable of alone or when combined with a boost; it's why the amps are so sought after.
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>>123925342
>using the filters on either your rat or big muff are going to sound different than a similar setting on EQ
yeah fair enough, eqs are generally parametric or wholeband, the filters on the big muff and rat seem to just scoop out the mid range.
>the distortion on your pedal alone is not going to be the same as what nicer amps are capable of alone or when combined with a boost
hmm could be subjective. i feel as though a natural distortion through a tube isn't powerful enough for what i want. when i run the signal like so: ts9>rat>big muff, i get a large, fat extremely distorted sound. i can't seem to achieve that with natural distortion.
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>>123925373
>subjective
It is, but chances are if you're looking to replicate a specific distortion tone and it's from any well known band before like 2010 it's a certain combination of an OD and a cranked amp.
Obvious exceptions being like, black metal stuff, or shoegaze stuff where it's actually both.

I've never had any other reason to bring it up but I thought it was hillarious when Kevin Shields (or somebody else idr) indirectly clarified that the "billion guitar takes" were actually a parallel thing with stacked amps and not double track^10 like everybody has been repeating for decades
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>>123925417
yeah you're right, there are certain tones that can't be replicated and people want to embrace those shapes and sounds that have been made famous by other players.
>"billion guitar takes" were actually a parallel thing with stacked amps
yeah this is what im coming to terms with now too and what i intend on doing in future recordings.
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>>123923511
https://vocaroo.com/1gydZmGx7r8h
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for anyone here using amplitube, what do you keep your input gain on? supposedly there are innate optimised input gain levels if running DI but IK multimedia didn't provide their stats so people are basically winging it. im sitting on -5.5db with my pedal board which seems ok with the orange OR-120 head.
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i am in my boomer arc. i am sticking to my pedal board and refuse to use built in pedals the amp sims. i don't understand people just running directly into the interface with no pedal board and playing with the pedals in the sim, that just seems fucking retarded to me.
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>>123924095
Dope
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i had a mental breakdown and reinstalled windows. well C: wasnt showing up anymore.
now i just will instal TAL, soundtoys, KHZ and airwindows plugins.
fuck all this bloat anyway.
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>>123927242
You'll be back. And more bloated than ever
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>>123927360
i know this color. lord have mercy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzLPa6NbcrE
is the crap at 4:52 AI generated? the original is from it's always sunny in the philadelphia but i don't know who recorded this crap
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>>123924540
looks comfy. can we hotbox in there?
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>>123928851
EEWWW dude keep your fart fetish to yourself
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>>123924095
Yuiposter, I'm just curious do you ever shill yourself in /shill/? If so I want to comb through and try to find you, I'd like to hear an album from you if you ever put one out
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>>123923511
favourite eurorack module?
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>>123924571
how do you like the mpc? i'm getting sick of >IN THE BOX, so i'd like to replace it with hardware >IN THE BOX
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>>123929853
you will never be happy
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I tried adding the staccato notes in the piccolo section, but I'm still not really feeling it. I tried my best to blend it with the legato patch. Maybe it's just that I'm so used to hearing the previous version. What do you think? Does it sound off? I also punctuated the drums a bit more.

https://voca.ro/1c7YpyefvlXQ

>>123925515
You really captured the baroque sound here. Good job.

>>123925261
This could be a really fun track with some stabs and vocal shots and other effects.

>>123924974
Interested to see where this goes. In my opinion the vocals could be more varied towards the end, but it's hard to judge it with a 30 second snippet.
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>>123926627
Not buying your schizo boxes
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https://voca.ro/1cjYlxxTIHrb

How's the volume on the lead in the intro after the fade in? Too loud?
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>>123931611
your digital pedals suck
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>>123926704
>>123924236
Thanks

>>123929725
Nope, never

I’m mentally collecting songs that belong together for a few things but it’s not like, serious
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Anchor
>>>/g/102719882
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>>123926627
You can't get good tones with your pedal board or a virtual amp/pedalboard. The problem is your lack of knowledge and more gear isn't going to fix it
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>>123924619
Sorry, but the rape booth is two doors up.

>>123924571
Got some potato chips, a couple bottles of Dr. Pepper, and some pickled sausages.

>>123928851
I think so? You mind if I smoke crack?
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>>123929818
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>>123924737
oh yeah wow Brisbane huh that must suck to have like no music scene haha ~sent from nz
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>>123932376
>ssl
>she doesn't use tomorrow theme
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>>123931647
that's bullshit because I've already achieved a good tone. cope
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>>123932636
we are in the arsehole of the world Oceania bro
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>>123932749
you're not in perth, quit whining
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>>123932793
Perth unironically have a greater music scene than Brisbane. on the east coast you have to go to Sydney or Melbourne and no one can afford to live there unless you're a Chinese property developer. europe would be my go to place.
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discovering no one likes pedal boards anymore is my own 9/11.
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>>123932906
What did the matrix mean by this
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>>123932994
I don't know what you mean
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Has anyone here paid for a music production/audio engineering course? I'm thinking once I have enough capital, I will enrol in a course but curious about others' experiences.
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>>123933054
>Has anyone here paid for a music production/audio engineering course?
yeah it's called youtube + trial and error
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>>123933075
>youtube
yuck
>trial and error
acceptable
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>>123933038
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>>123932906
you must live under a rock. people dropped them ages ago
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>>123933333
holy fucking numbers
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>>123933333
i did live under a rock for a while, i wasted my 20s doing drugs and wasting my time at uni instead of music. i have so many regrets
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>>123933333
the digits have cursed us forever...
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>>123933333
>>123932906
you guys know youtube isn't real life right
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>>123933333
>turbo get wasted on this thread
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im probably gonna spend the extra on cubase pro
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>>123933847
compare it to fl studio all plugins edition, also now is the worst time to buy shit because black friday sales are right around the corner. big discounts on tons of music software
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>>123933865
im not really keen on learning another DAW and i like cubase a lot. i think investing in the pro version is in my best interests
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>>123933881
alright. seems they run sales in the summer that you missed july-august, but probably have a nov-dec sale too
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>>123933896
i'll keep an eye out, thanks for the heads up.
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>>123933896
Yeah, wasn't there a HUGE sale for Steinberg's 40th anniversary recently?
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How do you learn from music production tutorials like tracks from scratch? Do you literally copy everything note for note, or just apply the techniques?
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>>123934387
just quit now, you're too stupid. no one asks questions this dumb and is capable of creating anything
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>>123934387
How many times and how many months apart have you made this exact same post?
lol
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>>123934546
>>123934446
suck my dick fags, fuck y'all dumbasses. you never help
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boom bap thing
https://vocaroo.com/1lKm8bMrAdr7
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>>123934677
unlistenable before the first second is over, clipping like a motherfucker.

do any of you have ears
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>>123934647
>you never help
you never listen
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>>123929853
It’s cool. I’ve never had a true DAW (unless you count 2010 garage band) so I don’t have anything to compare it to. The work flow takes some time to get used to just like anything else.
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just got back from a job interview for a high paying job. maybe I can finally start buying all of those useless guitar pedals. stay mad /prod/
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i have a series of questions that look unrelated to /prod/ but is integral to the engineering process;
>what sort of clothes do you wear during mixing?
>which kind of chair do you use?
>do you have any natural light coming into your studio?
>are food and drink allowed in your studio (not including water)?
>if yes to the above question; what kind of food and drink do you consume when engineering?
>if no to the above question; what kind of food and drink do you consume when taking a break from engineering?
>do you let friends or family see your workflow?
>when taking a day off, what do you do to unwind to return refreshed to the studio?
>what is your sleep schedule like?
>is your mixing computer the same as your recreational computer?

im trying to think of more but i think these are aspects of our lives that we take for granted which can affect us in ways we can't imagine, including how our mixes sound.
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>timewasting engagement bait questions
>noooo but it's tooooooooooooooootally /prod/ related
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>>123935715
you've told me more than I needed to know with this one response, cheers
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Working on a live set for some looper action with guitar, writing simple songs to perform on the streets. Is it even still prod related, not sure.

https://vocaroo.com/1d9jQCtbCcvF

Thoughts? How many eggs and tomatoes would you throw at me?
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>>123935763
over-chorused sounds tacky. the chords don't sond in time for the first 25s. weird skip ~31s and no idea where the beat is in that section with all the delay
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>>123935763
>How many eggs and tomatoes would you throw at me?
do you understand during a cost of living crisis how much this shit costs? im not wasting food for demonstration purposes.
also your music sounds cool, it's like joshua tree/rattle and hum era U2
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to clarify, this picture is showing daniel johns ran his distortion/octave in one stack while the other stack would be natural distortion/modulation?
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>>123935904
Those are clearly parallel
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>>123935904
>retard is a buttrocker
lmao
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>>123935763
A light 4 on the floor and vocals ty
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>>123935913
because of the line out? then what would the A/B/Y switcher be used for?
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>>123935919
i dont know what that means
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>>123935925
you're so retarded it hurts
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>>123935933
if the answer is so obvious then it should be pretty easy for you to come up with an answer
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>>123935942
the answer is obvious by looking at the fucking illustration
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>>123935942
..not him, but it is obviously for being able to tune without the audience hearing, 4standard-deviations-kun.
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>>123935959
stop spoonfeeding him
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>>123935947
i asked for clarity, then i asked you to expand on your "clearly parallel" answer, i never said you were wrong. im happy to accept im retarded but i think you might be retarded for not being able to answer what you describe as obvious
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>>123935959
yeah that is obvious, which does make me retarded, i just didnt know how the amps were being run parallel.
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What are some of you guys' favorite articles and videos on mixing/matering vocals? I really don't want to wade through the ad-infested tar pit that is YouTube if I can avoid it.
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>>123935985
>i just didnt know how the amps were being run parallel.
but after he said it, you did get it.
>>123935925
>because of the line out
don't be so hard on yourself. you got this.
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>>123936115
looks like it, but i am definitely retarded.
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https://vocaroo.com/19vUofVQ9XC1
It sounds like mentally ill ducks stabbing at each other, but actually it's a mark of accomplishment, at least on the stupid cocksucking windows machine. Longtime linuxfag, fuck jack and all the nonsense, unfortunately, I've spent many hours with that nonsense.
- Model: Cycles clocking the Drumbrute Impact, check (but I'm thinking maybe it should be the other way around given how nice and immediate the bank/pattern/song flow is, however I don't think the DBI has program change in, and I only recently realized the M:C "PCH" means Pattern Change. So there's a lot to consider there, and I see nobody talking about it from my googling.

Took a bit of fiddling to get the DBI to listen to the M:C, and actually I think there's much to be said about a restructure where the DBI is the "brain" and I just fuck around with the M:C and Minilogue/Reface.

-Involve the Minilogue, well there's some consideration here. It has an audio in, which delightfully gets filtered/delayed if you use delay, so that's a consideration. M:C handles audio in as well but via usb, haven't tried any of that.
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>>123936134
i have the m:c and don't care for it but it's impossible to sell
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i like these diagrams. this is adam jones' setup
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>>123936140
That's surprising to me, it's such a beautifully immediate instrument. It's really what re-invigorated my music intentions.
Now I have it as the "Brain" but I think it should be slave to the DB:I.
It's also much different with an external controller (in my case the reface cp), because the pads on the M:C are garbage but you can also hitch velocity to a wide number of parameters.
idk, surprised you didn't care for the M:C, I think it's fantastic, with a few quibbles here and there.
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i cant decide which interface to buy. all this fuckmyfireface bleached adat bunghole. its too much. i will buy the most expensive one and just eat rice for the next 6 months.
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>>123936244
get the studio 24c
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>>123936244
Just bought the Behringer UMC404hd, works perfectly. Buy it and move on with your life.
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these threads have given me schizophrenia. i genuinely believe there is a conspiracy against me to withhold information and not progress as an engineer
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i am le quirky schizo of d00000m xD
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>>123936350
are you one of my gangstalkers? ill slit your throat in your sleep you stupid cunt
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>>123936326
Try being nicer and more open minded

>>123936350
No that’s me
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>>123936417
ok thank you for the advice
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https://voca.ro/1hzqbqu1yy4u

How’s the mix? How’s the ideas? How’s the ending? How’s your mom?
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i am going to commission a programmer to make an amp sim that can handle high gain input from a pedalboard
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>>123936664
Just turn out down you dummy
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>>123936711
yeah i did and it works. the headache comes from going from the hundreds of IR and heads at my disposal but i found a channel that can help me decide which works for me
https://youtu.be/MS0IsKRWjro?si=pBOKmVM1nHgbqPfz
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https://vocaroo.com/1jXD9ZvJrfN2
idk what to add after this part

>>123931556
>https://voca.ro/1c7YpyefvlXQ
sounds incredible on my speakers. They're not monitoring speakers tho just normie ones. How tf did you get an orchestra? or do you just play a lot of instruments?
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>>123931556
>https://voca.ro/1c7YpyefvlXQ
which vst are you using?
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>>123935769
it's just a demo i quickly recorded in ableton. no beats, just guitar. the "skip" ain't so weird..the song is mainly in E, i am going to the dominant and subdominant in the skip, kind of a breakdown...it's totally in the key, just a different feel.

>>123935776
>also your music sounds cool, it's like joshua tree/rattle and hum era U2
thank you

>>123935922
i mainly play instrumentals...but i keep hearing and reading i should add vocals to my tracks....i think it's time
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oh... 7:30 in the morning,,,, WOOPS
https://vocaroo.com/1d51xoxNkInz

bonus from yesterday(?) to the bin ! :(
https://vocaroo.com/1kjfQzWmOrYd
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>>123938550
>https://vocaroo.com/1d51xoxNkInz
Nice. Does that main arp use a sound from the Wavestation by any chance?
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thoughts? anything i should add or remove? i'll use it for techno leads mostly
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>>123939688
You know you can download all that shit for free, right?
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>>123939821
and?
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>>123939688
how about you post a piece of music using this clusterfuck and we'll give you some thoughts based on how shit it sounds.
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>>123935707
>>what sort of clothes do you wear during mixing?
Usually sweat pants and a t-shirt. Sometimes a jacket now that it's getting colder.
>>which kind of chair do you use?
A padded wooden chair.
>>do you have any natural light coming into your studio?
Yes.
>>are food and drink allowed in your studio (not including water)?
Yes.
>>if yes to the above question; what kind of food and drink do you consume when engineering?
I only eat when I take a break. I drink water when I engineer sometimes hot chocolate.
>>if no to the above question; what kind of food and drink do you consume when taking a break from engineering?
>>do you let friends or family see your workflow?
Yes but I rarely work and hang out with them at the same time.
>>when taking a day off, what do you do to unwind to return refreshed to the studio?
Take walks, play games, meet my family.
>>what is your sleep schedule like?
12 pm to 8 am.
>>is your mixing computer the same as your recreational computer?
Yes.
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>>123939055
>Wavestation
nope, just a vital supersaw layered with operator
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>>123935707
>what sort of clothes do you wear during mixing?
Pjs
>which kind of chair do you use?
Pewdiepie clutch chair (8 years of ass stench soaked in)
>do you have any natural light coming into your studio?
One small window on the opposite side of the room
>are food and drink allowed in your studio (not including water)?
Yes I eat in here all the time
>if yes to the above question; what kind of food and drink do you consume when engineering?
Water, chips, apples+peanutbutter, whatever leftovers my mom made last night
>if no to the above question; what kind of food and drink do you consume when taking a break from engineering?
n/a
>do you let friends or family see your workflow?
They don't care
>when taking a day off, what do you do to unwind to return refreshed to the studio?
browsing 4chan, playing magic the gathering and roguelikes for 14 hours straight
>what is your sleep schedule like?
Varied I usually get 7-8 hours, but I stay up 18 hours so it shifts
>is your mixing computer the same as your recreational computer?
yeah
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>>123935707
The same clothes I wear every single day
A Metal folding chair
Windows are foiled out, I have bulbs and LEDs
Yes
Coffee and muffins
Yes but they don't care
South Korean thrillers
4am to 12pm thankfully, but insomnia was an issue last month
Yes

Enjoy your telemetry, you can probably dox me with this
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>>123936244
Umc1820 its on sale right now
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>>123923511
Henlo guys, I have a question regarding mixing.

I just realized how shit my mixes sounded because of equipment, so I've decided to invest a bit. The problem I have is
>hearing damage.
I am afraid of it. When I listened to a lot of music during my studies, I realized that I began shouting when talking "normally". I couldn't understand the barber's words, etc.

I haven't used headphones since and recovered. This was years ago and a wake-up call for me.

So, my question.
>Is it ok to mix without headphones and only buy monitor speakers?

I know there are a lot of memes/equipment shillers, and ironacilly, you guys give non-bs advice, so I would appreciate input.

Thanks anons.
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>>123941456
Also, from Deadmau5's masterclass, I just found out he uses no headphones at all for the same stated reason? Has anyone tried using no headphones themselves?
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>>123941456
If headphones are giving you hearing damage, its likely tuned horribly e.g. very high treble and you're playing at high volume. If you get similarly trebly studio monitors and play at loud volumes you'll also suffer hearing loss. To answer your question yes you can mix on speakers or headphones or both but turn down the volume in any case
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>>123941556
Thanks anon. I'll get myself some quality studio monitors and call it a day then.
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>>123941486
>Most music is listened to on headphones
>No I will not mix with headphones
The art is getting a phone speaker headphone car club balance..Joel only cares about le club
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>>123941456
headphones are better to mix with for 99.9999% of people and even that canadian retard will tell you to use headphones. headphones are a repeatable experience in many environments so if learn the character of them, then you learn how they will likely reproduce on other systems.
you will not be able to afford a treated room that benefits from monitors for a long time and you can't take them with you
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i hate headphones, i never use them for anything
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i love headphones i use them for everything
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I'd love headphones if I didn't feel like my head was gonna explode when I wear them while intoxicated. It's like I get couchlock, but where the band and cups are.
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when will behringer drop their inevitable groovebox
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can i somehow run an effects loop with interface?
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>>123943317
does it have any outputs? if so, yes
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>>123943354
that's so fucking based (my interface doesn't have outputs)
i will simply upgrade to a bigger steinberg interface
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Anyone here still not upgrade to Ableton 12?

It still doesn't seem compelling to upgrade from 11 Suite so I'll be upgrading from FL Signature to All plugins edition when that sale happens
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>>123943658
i'm never going to upgrade
they changed master to main for litrally no reason
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>>123943658
i tried it and i'm still recovering emotionally
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i just found a 15 year old recording of my brother and i playing a shitty moby dick cover we recorded on a busted cassette recorder. i think it has more soul than anything i've ever made since then.
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>>123943828
>i think it has more soul than anything i've ever made since then.
damn bitch wtf you been doing
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>>123943881
wasting time
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>>123943828
same, soul of recording to a digital tascam 4 track with friends to no click in high school. either you punched in and played right or you recorded until you did
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>>123943991
just a bunch of kids having fun before we absorbed the general misanthropia of our culture
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>>123944001
i am kinda thankful i have that experience now, i don't really get red light syndrome even if i did waste a bunch of years doing nothing productive musically.

a funny thing i found was going through an old hard drive that had local bands in my scene that were "big" and how awful the mixing/mastering recording was even though they went to local studios. shit sounded like it was targeting -30db or -45db lol. crazy how much more you can do in your bedroom now
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no im not buying your virtual pedals, im going to buy physical, metal boxes with actual circuitry and there's nothing you can do about it
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@123925285
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epic persona you got there
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i curated it for (you)
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Experiment with stuff. Is it cool?
https://voca.ro/171OENAzD7fD
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>>123943658
Any idea how much the FL black friday sale will be?
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>>123943658
>It still doesn't seem compelling to upgrade from 11 Suite
A bunch of good shit was added in 12.1, be sure you're accounting for that too.
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>>123943658
Not yet. Maybe if there's a black friday sale making it cheap it enough.
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>>123945154
>autoshift
meh
>the worst music i've ever heard in a demo
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFra3TPXlGw
lmao

I'll wait til 12 comes with a free upgrade to 13
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>>123945191
>drum sampler
>more midi filters and midi transformations
>auto-tagging
>improved limiter and saturator
13 is a good number though.
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>>123945229
>drum sampler
don't care
>more midi filters and midi transformations
don't care
>auto-tagging
will never use it
>improved limiter and saturator
this shit should have been in versions ago

give us a built in transient shaper and scopes, let us draw curves in waveshapers without needing m4l devices.
i'm overall disappointed at how slowly ableton is adding anything. it's stagnated really hard and all these little tchotchkes are not moving the needle for me to give them my money
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>>123945191
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFra3TPXlGw
wtf was that?
where tf is all the colour and base control? hidden now because of brainlets complaining about it?
why did they rename it "bass shaper" instead of naming it whatever it actually does?

>the fucking midi clip panel and all the bloat they added into the side pannel
I don't understand why they added and changed all this random shit for no clear purpose.

From 8>9>10>11(*mostly*) they added features *on top of* rather than an outright change and it felt like a mostly seamless change; you didn't ever have to re-learn anything other than a few hotkeys that were swapped (I'm actually still pissed about them) but 12 feels radically different in a way that feels worse.

It feels personal.
I am deeply upset.
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>>123945459
yeah, you've sorta outlined their transition from being for musicians to edging towards a "lifestyle brand" like teenage engineering. power users haven't felt like the target in a very long time, look at move being a preset device aimed at beginners.

in fl, you get this shit without paying the top of the line package. it's pissed me off for years that live never offered similar tools. transient shaper is in all plugins but we don't even get some of the basics before that. there are a few areas where you shouldn't need 3rd party tools to do things that come with other daws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L9djVLaUSU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVfYHEF2oKE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dFy3DFZ48s
the automation editing is just way better i'm finding in fl as well. you can do enough similar things with automation, envelope followers, and routing in fl that it's almost every case i use m4l devices
https://youtu.be/kkGGj98D5Pc?t=8

i'm just sick of seeing these pointless small updates for things that shouldn't cost any money to someone that bought suite and would have to reup at $180 way too often
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Not really a real production question but what would be the quickest and easiest way to delete dead space from between a series of audio tracks? An album I downloaded (LTJ Bukem's Logical Progression) has small pauses at the beginning of each flac which disrupts flow of the mix.
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>>123945673
Audacity truncate audio
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>>123942104
>and even that canadian retard will tell you to use headphones.
Kek, alright, I'll get myself some headphones first then and use low volume settings.
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>>123945716
I'll try that, thanks.
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>>123945588
We'd be living in a musical utopia if FL users could read the manual and find those vids
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>>123944761
I like it
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what's your all thoughts on this? I'm worried that the bass isn't hitting the sub side of things
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>>123946125
manuals suck
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>>123947449
>me when *reading* short and to the point technical information :|
>me when silly youtuber rambles on for 15 minute to give me 20% of the information at some 20 second window during that video and talks to me like a fucking idiot regurgitating that information in a convoluted and probably inaccurate way for another 5 minutes after that before they try to sell me a music course from some literally who :0
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>>123947537
the medium is the message
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>tfw my music is shit but I get my gf to pretend she made it for social media

25k monthly listeners and counting. Next I just need her to make an onlyfans
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>>123947584
I am unironically transitioning for this idc idc
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>>123947584
i can't wait until she blows up and sues you
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>>123945229
>improved limiter
+2.5ms of latency is not an improvement
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>>123947594
all those settings are the same as the previous limiter?
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mk II diva (FM) edition glazing much harder edition

https://vocaroo.com/13XdmMXJ233E

in acan't stay awake for more than 4-6 hours arc rn but some time within the next week or two i will wake up and be full of determination and energy and bang out the whole thing in a day!!!
the swaps are done in my head already shit's just tedious
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>>123945588
>right click and press "patcherize"
>right click vst and go input>literally anything
>make knob on surface and link it
>link knobs to a midi controller automate it
>or drop in an envelope controller and link that instead
>control literally anything using literally anything
There I explained FL studio you can all make music like vangelis now.
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>>123947768
pretty much. only thing i dislike is it lacks midi effects like in ableton. there's no chord memory thing like the chord midi device like if you wanted to do dance stabs, and some of the other devices
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>MEANWHILE VANGELIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b1xJYCrKDU
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>>123947798
Yeah I realised after I hit post I was typing like a complete fucking dickhead, but it is frustrating the way that imageline does so little to make it clear how to actually use FL studio's features.
Also why the fuck is the patcher that makes instruments you play in the channel rack and the patcher you make effects chains in on the mixer channels both called the same thing and look identical when they are not actually cross-compatible? We'll never know.
FL studio was put together piecemeal over decades and it really shows.
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Should I add a second verse to this or is it fine at this length
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>>123947016
>why my nuts have to pee like that?
nice vocals. You've got some work to do, but I think the idea is good. The fart bass is too harsh on the lower notes and, yes, I didn't really notice much sub going on. Also kill yourself, frog poster.
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>>123947016
>why my nuts have to pee like that
also i feel like you could cut out that entire part at the end and the song would be better
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>>123935904
No, it's showing the second head being slaved out of the effects loop of the first amp.

His pedals are (all in a straight line) are going into the input of the first amp and the output of the first amp's effects loop is going into the input of the second amp, which means he's stacking the preamp of first amp on top of the preamp of the second amp. Which would normally sound like a big fucking mess but I don't know how his amps settings were set I can't tell you anything more.

Normally if you were slaving a second head you'd send the output of the effects loop on the first amp into the input of the effects loop of the second amp so the signal from the first head's preamp would be spread over the two power amps in each head. This would result in more overall volume.

The diagram looks wrong to me, but he could have been doing some retarded bullshit, who knows? I can tell you whoever drew it was probably confused as to what was happening with the signal path, but I could be wrong. Whoever made the diagram also has the 'direct signal' going to the front of the house out of the splitter labeled as 'acoustic signal' which would also be wrong unless his guitar had some sort of piezo system? Even then it would probably still be wrong unless the piezo output was being split out of a single TRS cable at the direct box. Again though, who knows?

You'd need actual pictures of his rig at the time to know one way or the other and I doubt those exist. This is a long shot but you might could try emailing his guitar/amp tech from that time period and ask. I don't know if he'll respond or even know the answer to your question but Slash's (guitarist from Guns & Roses) guitar tech will famously answer fans tech questions through Instagram from time to time.
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>>123924540
That's for when you collaborate with a female singer
>yeah, we have to be in here at the same time with the lights off
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>>123948665
thanks for the answer mate. i know his rig got a lot more complicated following freakshow. these soldano's were introduced sometime before neon ballroom and so his pedalboard is much smaller. but yeah considering that the diagram has a lot of inconsistencies, this added to my confusion. i could probably do some research and find some contact details for the techs involved.
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>>123948940
>oh that? it's a spare mic in my pocket just in case, industry standard practice, don't worry if it rubs against you a bit
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>>123948998
I just looked it up, the diagram is apparently drawn out wrong. They're saying on the forums that he used one for dirty/distortion and the other was set up for a clean sound and he switched between them with a splitter.

Your initial instincts were right though, these know nothing dumbfucks here
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had no idea what they was looking at and couldn't tell something wasn't right about the diagram from the way it was laid out.

I can almost guarantee you both these 'expurts' post in every day in /gg/ lmao
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>>123949168
>the other was set up for a clean sound and he switched between them with a splitter.
yeah this seemed like the most practical answer, probably a dual-mono setup or wet/dry.
unfortunately all questions and speculations here are met with extreme disdain and hostility so might as well just keep asking and eventually we arrive at some sort of conclusion.
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>>123949275
>a dual-mono setup or wet/dry
I don't know if this is correct or not, this is just what the 'expurts' on the fourms were saying so I wouldn't take it at face value either.

The dude from Silverchair posted some answers to fan questions about his aluminum Jacksons, maybe try contacting him directly and see if he'll tell you. The only catch there is sometimes these dudes don't know because they've left it up to their tech and then sometimes they'll outright lie so you can't easily copy their sound. The dude from the Darkness (Justin something) is like that, he doesn't want anybody seeing how he's running his pedals into his amps so he keeps them locked away and hidden in a rack drawer like a faggot.
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>>123949334
yeah fair enough
ah true. honestly im that much invested in his rig specifically, just getting ideas into how some artists route their effects and amps. he always used a bunch of fuzz, delays and modulation so it seemed like an interesting case to see what was being done, and looking at other rigs i have found some clearer answers.
yeah it's pretty interesting that the artist themselves aren't trying to work out their own system, but at a point i suppose you're just focused on the performance and the songs and not the technical shit. it gives me a headache sometimes but it's fascinating nonetheless.
>sometimes they'll outright lie so you can't easily copy their sound
elitism is fucking retarded.
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>>123949365
I guess I'm a bit like them. I look for good sounds more than I do my own sound design.
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>>123949365
Never mind, it looks like the forum 'expurts' were right. If the 'amp settings' on this pic from Reddit are correct then there's no way one head was slaved into the next one like the diagram shows because it would sound like total shit.
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>>123949390
sound design is overwhelming at the best of times but satisfying as fuck when you can finally arrive at a theoretical finish line but im always after references and ideas from different rigs. always need a starting point
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The YouTubers are getting a bit too good at making ride cymbals I might never buy a corporate cymbal ever again
https://youtu.be/g2z6kEBd8OE
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>>123950051
I'm not buying your cymbal
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https://vocaroo.com/1l0JASUMiRdc

is it boring/ repetetive or actually nice?
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>>123950442
>boring/ repetetive
also, I don't know why but the clap made me laugh. Not sure if it's the placement or how stock it sounds that had that effect.
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>>123950442
Sorry, that one's not it bro, move on
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>>123950708
>>123950610
>>123950610
>>123950708
Its what happens when i dont have inspo, and i dont have inspo 99% of time but i still dont want to waste time not making music
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Got too many projects
None are finished
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>>123950771
I start every day looking for inspo and start every sesh with a list of stuff to finish from the last song and or new stuff try for a new one (and sound design techniques to try or whatever blah blah blah...)

idk dude, stop going in blind. give yourself a rough direction first
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liquid dnb project

https://voca.ro/1jMoO6dms3X6

thoughts?
i might just upload it to sc or something and be done with it
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>>123950851
>>123950851
How do you look for inspo? Just going through songs you like than inspire you?
I do go through unfinished tracks but i usually have no idea what to do with them
I usually just open new project and try to make something out of nothing
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>>123950915
Listen to new music frequently.

Take note of specific elements in stuff i've been listening to a lot to try to make something similar.

Take note of songs I want to try transcribing (usually for whatever my current obsession is).
That pretty much always leads to something being made and often gets referred back to multiple times.

Just be observant and conscious of what you consume every day honestly.
Like I even write stuff based on like 5 seconds of a song i hear in the background of an anime or in a tiktok or whatever; some people like to mentally picture things or be inspired by visuals (couldn't be me but obviously that would go well with watching movies and such).
Being conscious of your feelings and letting that guide what you feel like making, or how that crosses over with your current interests.

so on so on
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>>123950904
It sounds the same as the last time you posted this, you should upload it as you said and move on.
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>>123951060
i did?
well i see
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>>123951069
yes, I lurk constantly and listen to everything so I remember due to having an otherwise uneventful and unfulfilling life.
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Is 150CAD worth it for an ableton push 1?
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What DAW and VST's/sample packs would you guys recommend for someone who is really good at composing and playing/improvizing the music but doesn't know how to do the mixing/mastering "polish" and tweaking settings and stuff to take shitty or flat samples and synths and make them sound professional and dulcet or "good"? Bonus points for free or at least cheap shit. I've used NanoStudio in the past which is free on PC but the canned drum samples are ass and the synth can sound good but requires a lot of tweaking. Where is a good place to download free VST's and drum samples that sound good? Or do you guys mostly just use the stock stuff from the professional DAW's instead of using outside resources (I've been recommended Logic Pro [I'm on windows] and NI Komplete but that shit is like $600, which i mean, i can afford, but i'd need to know how easy it is to use given the expense).

I just want to play and have fun bringing the ideas from my head into real life. I've used a boomerang III for years but while I love how fast I can throw together ideas on it and create loops to practice with, I've grown tired of how limiting it is. I have a scarlett 2i2 audio interface, shure SM58 for vocals and irl samples, an alesis QS7.1 (80's and 90's digital synths are built like tanks and make the best midi controllers), a korg padkontrol, and a dozen guitars.
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>>123951709
m8 you need to specify a genre

I'm a hardcore user of stock Ableton + NI but would never recommend them to somebody who doesn't want get into it outside of kontakt stuff.
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>>123951904
Trip Hop would honestly be a good description. But basically wherever Jazz, Funk, Blues, Hip Hop, and Electronic meet. It's hard to pin down and I don't like really limiting it so idk how important the genre thing is, like why it matters. A good example would probably be Marc Rebillet tbhwy, like for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmgwyxJzeyk

Not saying I'd make that same kind of music, but how he can just "play", you know? He can just pick sounds and go. But then imagine instead of live you're doing that in your bedroom and you can make fully featured songs instead of doing it live and so looped.
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>>123924796
Sounds like Charlottesville. Fucking no talent yuppies flooding in
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>>123951904
Faggot
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>>123952289
Well the stuff that tends to be most plug-and-play, immediate-good-sound is typically made for specific target styles/arrangements already in mind; that's kind of inherent in the processing toward the mix it has in mind.

Okay I take it back, a lot of recent NI stuff actually does cater to what you have in mind probably.

For drums, I haven't personally used anything since 10 so I can't attest to their quality, but a lot of Native Instruments recent kontakt stuff actually does target what would be appropriate for trip hop, hip hop (assuming you mean boom bap but some modern stuff as well).
For drums... I mean historically I actually think overall Native Instruments have always been super solid and that's kind of hard to fuck up; their acoustic drums however, not a fan.

Again can't attest to the quality (i've used them but they're not my area of expertise), but they at least get your foot in the door for guitar brass and strings etc...
I mean i've heard them sound very good before, but if you're looking for a "cinematic" rather than pop tone these probably aren't for you.

Komplete is an excellent way to cover your bases and it always goes on sale for black friday so...
I'd say that + another acoustic drum vst if you need it is a solid entry
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>>123931613
I guess? Whatever is before the intro sounds super quiet at least. Was kind of jarring going from basically a whisper to a yell, but idk the rest of the track seems pretty normalized volume-wise at least so I thought of it more like the song volume was normal and the fade in was extremely quiet.
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how do you guys cope with the fact that no one gives a shit about anything we make or likely will ever make in our entire lives, even if it's good? don't get me wrong, my brain just makes music on its own every day even if i don't want it to, so i'm stuck with this for life, and i love the feeling i get during the creative process. but there's just too much music out there, and you have to compete with all of the old legends as well. the music industry is fucked, and the artists get the shit end of the stick by a wide margin. im in my 30's now with a stable STEM career and really can't imagine ever "making it" in any sort of significant way (i'm not the celebrity type anyways, im a shy introvert), even if my music did somehow become popular. do you even post your stuff online and try to get people to listen to it and give feedback? not just unfinished rough bits but actual fully completed songs that you really care about? i like making music for myself and am conflicted about what to do with a song after i feel it is "complete" and i just have this music file sitting on my computer now.
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>>123941975
Most music is listened to in a 95 honda civil. But forreal a studeo I took lessons in kept mid 90s cars in front of it to test how mixes sounded in shit boxes
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What’s the cheapest way to get Pro Tools perpetual license in Canada?
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>>123952501
Any way I can shore up the acoustic drum stuff with something from toontrack? I like jazzy polyrhythmic drum stuff. Yeah, with hip hop I'd mean boom bap stuff. I'd like to be able to stream-of-consciousness make tracks and arrange them, without having to stress too much over endlessly tweaking the sounds in the mix to get it "perfect". I'm wondering how much I actually need to learn on the audio engineering side vs. how much I can just fix by throwing money at it (within reason). Komplete 15 Ultimate is $1.2k though jfc. I'm confused about how to determine something as being good enough to put online, like "professional" quality, something that might be worthy to try to sell and meet at least the bare minimum of what people expect nowadays for sound quality and mixing. Ideally I could just make the music and not have to worry about tweaking shit endlessly and therefore could actually have a pretty quick turnaround on songs from start to finish. Creating music is easy for me, like the rough draft. The "polish" or final draft is the hard part imo, you know what I mean? So I'm looking into whether I really just have to put the time into learning that or if I can just buy good sounds and instruments so I don't have to think about that too much and can just play and create song after song after song.
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>>123952590
>how do you guys cope
I asked myself why "making it" (whatever that means to you) was important and what it would potentially add to my life, or change about making music.

*For me* the absolute best case scenarios and stuff I fantasize about was always stuff like "getting to make music with artists I admire," validating what I spend my time on, and... that's kind of it.

There's other vanity and ego stuff that comes to mind (objectively, not meaning to deride anybody for having the desire) but for the most part when I reflect on it, it stems from shortcomings either in my self-esteem or life (seeking approval or attention from strangers rather than focusing on irl relationships) or there's some other much easier way to go about fulfilling whatever comes to mind that i'm lacking.

I feel very strongly that "MaKiNg iT" and things that go along with it, like posting your music and trying to get attention are compulsive behaviors where people generally don't think about why they're participating and just think they're supposed to or whatever, even when they're not making a real effort to actually become good at music, which kind of defeats the purpose.
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>>123945940
NTA but I swear by Sennheiser and use the HD 380 Pro's myself. Very easy to change out the ear pads too on them.
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>>123952590
I just keep uploading and distributing. No plays, no promo although I'm planning to get involved in my local music scene and i wanna busk too. Connecting with other musicians is the only way to get heard. You gotta put yourself out there and show the world that you can make music and not just stick together loops and samples like Lego.
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>>123952710
honestly "making it" for me would be the dream of somehow getting paid like $2-3 million for my music so that I could quit my day job and could make music from then on without needing to worry about making money or worrying about what anyone thought of me or my music. i'll get there eventually with my career and investments im sure, but wouldn't it be cool to be like the hawk tuah girl who made $300k in her first month after going viral for some dumb shit. or like streamers who are already rich from their streaming but now they just stream for fun and can give 0 fucks, take breaks whenever, and just do what they want whenever they want. i don't even want to perform live, really. if anything i'd wish that other artists would go up on stage and perform my music and i'd just get royalties from it. i just want to make music in my bedroom every day, and have an audience who appreciates it. even if i were rich i'd still just want to hang out in my house all day or out in nature, continuing to live a minimalist lifestyle. i'm very humble and non-materialistic, the main reason i'd want money is just so i don't have to work a 9-5 anymore basically.
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>>123952741
yeah but everyone and their mother is doing that too, just seems like playing the lottery especially if you're older and not a sex symbol (especially female).
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>>123952694
Toon track is still considered a go to i'm pretty sure so yeah

If your goal is to sell things or reach the point of "generic" quality then yes you can pretty much just throw money at it and you'll sound listenable unless you're just a truly awful composer.
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>>123952801
Yeah see that's kind of what i mean, this is more of a "I wish i could be rich and just do whatever I want" fantasy rather than an "I NEED to achieve that by making money with music" thing.
Like yeah that'd be awesome, but there's nothing connecting those two pursuits.

I sit in my bedroom all day making music already and I'm fucking miserable dude lol
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The SP-303 compressor is fucked up.
https://youtu.be/-mqbaifZNuw?si=_Tr9sohzUaIW4oKg
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>>123952819
i know what you mean but "generic" isn't really the right word. more like i want to know that the high quality of the sounds are there, and it's basically like "alright here you go anon, here are good sounds. show us a good song using these sounds that are already proven to sound good on their own and together, you just gotta compose/play something".

like, download NanoStudio and listen to the stock drum sounds they have. you'll probably be like "these sound like shit" and i'd be like "yeah" and that's my point. you can't just make a song with that and have it sound good, you'd need to tweak the fuck out of them or layer them or something to even try. i'm looking for stuff that sounds professional quality right away, like it's 90-95% of the way there at least and I can tweak the last 5-10% to my liking but I could even just use it as-is if I wanted to and probably get away with it even I put it out on an album I was trying to sell. does that make sense? it's really the timbres/tones of the sounds and the mixing of all of the sounds together that i'm talking about more than anything.
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>>123952896
A cheat: Sample drums from songs.
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>>123952852
why are you miserable lol? the only thing that makes me miserable is wage slaving to pay the bills. having to pretend to be someone i'm not in order to maintain my reputation and stay gainfully employed. i have family and friends and a career though so i assume it's some other part of your life that's making you miserable.
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>>123952953
true. you still have to make the mix sound good though. it'd be nice if there was just some AI program I could buy for $100 that would apply whatever mixing techniques steely dan used to any song i made so everything came out crisp and clear and i would never need to worry about it again, lol. im getting the feeling that i can get pretty close with the right sample and VST libraries as as been previously mentioned, but im still gonna have to at least learn how to mix using EQ, compression, and reverb. i'm trying to keep things as simple as possible though at least when starting out. just a 3- or 4-piece band sort of deal.
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>>123953003
I am starting to think that the sounds are very important. For example you can take an awesome song and replace all sounds w General Midi. Much difference.

Maybe it works in reverse.
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Any plugins that put your drums on the right levels, make your overall mix just tight?
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>>123952958
>i have family and friends and a career
Could not be me.
It's a laundry list of shit dude, doesn't matter.

In your position, if you already know that more time making music is truly something stiffing your mental well being, maybe you should consider pivoting careers or lifestyles?
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>>123953065
I plug my brain in to the DAW with my ears yeah
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>>123953122
Absurd, where do i get that plugin t hen?
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>>123953053
yeah that's my point. like imagine nirvana songs but instead of kurt kobain it was macy gray or tom waits. or instead of a guitar they used an accordion or a kazoo, but otherwise the same song, same notes and effects and everything. timbre really is everything. led zeppelin wouldn't be so prolific without robert plant's voice singing those songs (compared to the old blues songs they ripped off sung by some old black dude). cliffs of dover or manhattan by eric johnson wouldn't sound the same without that guitar tone. similarly, kurt kobain's songs are often incredibly simple, but they all work because his voice sounds so good. peter, paul, and mary could sing the phonebook and i'd love it. timbre really is the most important thing at the end of the day.
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>>123953107
you and i both know that there isn't money to be made in the music industry for the average person, least of all in the fun creative side. it's like anything else with high supply and low demand, like making video games. i'll always be an indie artist, with the dream that maybe one day enough people like me that rich people are willing to pay me money for the rights to my music so i can retire early. also i love my job (i really enjoy soldering, it's a creative pursuit i actually get paid well to do because industry cares about it, unlike art), i just wish i didn't HAVE to go EVERY day of the workweek. far better than being a starving artist. tbhwy my life is great right now, but it could always be better, but that's what self improvement is for. i think of it more in terms of having a "day job" career where you work your 40 hours a week doing something you enjoy or at least can tolerate long-term, manage your finances properly, and do your passion on the side. if it makes money great, if it doesn't no big deal. the point is having fun and being happy. i don't want to make my passion into a job, most people who do that end up hating what they once loved.

hope things get better for you anon. i'd highly recommend the following video series, i credit it with being as successful and happy as i am today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-wWBGo6a2w&list=PL22J3VaeABQD_IZs7y60I3lUrrFTzkpat&index=1 . i know there is controversy both with him and with religion in general nowadays, but it's truly a great series full of truth, and so i have to at least mention it during times like this even if people hate me for it, even if you hate me for it. i'd just hope that you give it a chance, if you haven't already. i won't speak more on it, just throwing it out there.
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>>123947822
>Also why the fuck is the patcher that makes instruments you play in the channel rack and the patcher you make effects chains in on the mixer channels both called the same thing and look identical when they are not actually cross-compatible?
one is an instrument, one is an audio effect. can't be both at the same time
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>>123953363
Yeah I feel you on pretty much all that

There's obviously no weirdness or ill will on your part recommending something that helped you bro, thanks for bringing it up regardless.
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>>123953448
see this is why i've always preferred 4chan over any other social media. i've tried recommending that to people over on imgur (it's nice for killing time on my phone during downtime at work although the propaganda is nearly unavoidable even though i block every one i see and have cut down like 90% of it) and had a stint where i genuinely tried to criticize their echo chamber in good faith, and you can imagine how that went. even some people on 4chan hate the guy, all of the identity politics people basically. it's how he can get called a nazi and a jew at the same time somehow lmao. your response is refreshing desu. hope things work out for you, sometimes all it takes is one lucky break. i wouldn't even be in the career i am today were it not for the woman at the temp agency i worked through fucking up with paying me too much, and needing to get me another job (that i wasn't qualified for) to rectify it, and that job gave me the experience on my resume to continue from there.

i also think practicing gratitude is one of the best ways to be happy. instead of thinking about what you hate about your life, instead count your blessings. by your own measure. literally try to list as many things as possible that you are thankful for, if you were being honest with yourself. do it every day and it will start to become a habit. negative self-talk is similar (a habit) and can similarly be replaced by positive self-talk if you just force yourself to be conscious of every time you talk shit about yourself in your head (how often do you say "i can't do this" in your mind about any given thing vs. saying "i can do this" instead?). cognitive behavioral therapy can help a lot with this for people who don't understand, but i don't think you'd need to do it forever, just long enough with a therapist (or just online resources like wikipedia and youtube honestly) to learn how it works, and then you can do it by yourself.
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>drum set
>5-15 microphones
>neve 1073 mic preamp
>usb interface with 10 slots
assuming you already have your drum set, that's a price tag of about €4000. No wonder so many people, even drummers, are programming drums now that the software for it is so evolved.
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>>123953750
they're also loud as FUCK, lmao. there's a reason why buying your nephew a drum set for his birthday because you hate his mother is a meme. also you can sound very realistic with a midi pad controller: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQuzYO4hp3A
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>>123951709
>someone who is really good at composing and playing/improvizing the music
doubt
>doesn't know how to do the mixing/mastering "polish"
learn the stock daw plugins. these are fundamentals that translate to everything and 3rd party vsts are not going to magically make your music better. compression, eq, levels, etc.
>Where is a good place to download free VST's and drum samples that sound good?
doesn't exist. you need to pony up for a paid vst if you want acoustic drums, but money will not solve your problems if you don't learn the basics

>>123952694
i use ezdrummer 3 and it's great. they have a bunch of expansions, the best pack to start with is the ezd+2 expansions. the newer signature part 1/2 are good expansions, also the custom shop pack but listen to the demos and find one you want. newer packs tend to be better but make sure you read to see if they include mallets, brushes, hot rods, etc.
don't bother with superior drummer, the sounds are really raw and require a ton of effort to process with little for you to gain

acoustic drums, piano/epiano (if you want a solo feature), choral, and orchestra are the things you need to buy vsts for because there are no good, free equivalents
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>>123936836
>How tf did you get an orchestra?
CineSamples libraries.
>>123936875
CineSamples for the orchestral elements and Damage 2 for the main percussion.
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>>123953961
>doubt

fair enough, not like i've uploaded anything yet for you to hear. at the same time though, it seems like it would be hard to prove something is "good" due to the subjectivity of music taste so idk what would even qualify as making you not doubt even if i did upload something. especially since some people will just say they dislike something or nitpick it even if it's actually good, just out of spite.
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>>123954595
no one needs to hear your blogs defending your ego. completely unnecessary in the original post and in this one. claiming you're really good at something is the last thing i ever expect someone really good at something to say
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>>123954671
Phife:
Analyze. That's what I do to MCs
That be talkin bout they this and that, money please
Ego. I'm on my own jock skill
>Cuz if I don't say I'm the best, tell me who the hell will
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>tfw focusing on make simpler synth sounds that take up their own small frequency ranges
>shit sounds a lot better already
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>>123950311
Why would you buy a jazz cymbal?
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>>123955823
very simple lesson but one many people never learn about ear candy versus what sounds good in a mix. with guitar it's especially common for the best record tones to be absolutely dogshit soloed
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Any of you fags did some kind of a DIY hardware build? I want to try and build a Hairball preamp and I wonder how difficult would it be for someone who has never held a soldering iron in his hands (ofc I'd practice a little beforehand).
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>>123956873
>someone who has never held a soldering iron in his hands
probably a complete waste of time and money. the economy of scale and time investment doesn't make sense unless it's something you will regularly be doing with electronics
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>should I...
>No
Every time
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>>123957115
yup

>should i
>is it bad
so many retard flags that always get replies
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>>123952608
I use my shit box for final mixing notes
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>>123923511
OP, I revamped my desk setup for my Linux PC that I use mostly to fuck around with old computer emulators and music production.

My biggest question: is there a decent device that I can buy that can be hit with drum sticks to trigger sounds for a drum vst?

Is it only limited to Roland type devices? Thanks.
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>>123956873
As someone who bought a soldering iron thinking that I would get into guitar pedal building and circuit design etc, I realized it was a dumb expense.

But I still keep it around in case there's some weird reason to solder something.

Wouldn't recommend it though. Harder than you think, and not as fulfilling as you would think.
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>>123953744
Totally separate anon. Thanks for the specific therapy mention.

I have been working a very toxic dev job recently, and am down to one good coworker left who hasn't left yet. I plan on squeezing him for advice to see if all related dev adjacent jobs are like this.

Found a good therapist near me who's been good. But boy my boss is clueless, since he denied WFH for a month for my first kid being born despite him doing the same thing a year ago.

I fucking hate hypocritical pricks like this.

However I have to rise above and either pivot to a different company or different job imo.

Anyway this resource helps since I've been doubting myself hardcore. I am going to write down the amazing things I'm thankful for in my life tomorrow.

Thanks for this. You have no idea how much that helped since I don't really have a decent support system other than my wife and my mom (lol)
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>>123958486
so why didnt you get into pedal building and circuit design? what stopped you?
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daily............ ANGER

https://vocaroo.com/1b353MRvFyHQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XffxfvcLFA
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>>123958712
trash cover of bss

vocaroo is lmao
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>>123958690
I tried building clones, and even had a coworker who went to school for electronics try to help me out, couldn't even get it working.

I think it's just me though but I have no had good luck with those desu.
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>>123958819
how many did you try building?
i dont know man, sounds like you both did something horribly wrong. that doesn't mean it's hard or a waste of time, it just means you were missing a piece of the puzzle
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>>123958895
I did one on my own, failed horribly.

I did one with the dude and just could not get it to work.

It is the onboard wiring that killed it for me personally. I hated everything about that, especially with the lack of resources online to solder jack, ring, tip, or sleeve or whatever.

Either way if you were able to figure it out, happy for you.

It was just a source of anger for me for a long while, happened maybe like half a year ago. Have really just resorted to buying the pedal I would want since building the clone wasn't really all that cheaper.

I think if I would ever attempt that again, I would find a pedal builder personally and do that with him.

But yeah I have zero desire to do it again. Mostly did it to want to save money or do the artwork but I found it to be wayyyyy harder than it looks and super tedious.
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>>123958935
>Mostly did it to want to save money
not them but lmao, that's not why you build pedals
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>>123958935
yeah fair enough, i havent tried it out myself but i found some local workshops that were running tutorials.
but as the other anon said, it's not about saving money, it's to make something unique and personal to you. you mentioned artwork which is a decent goal.
if you found it tedious and frustrating, it's definitely not for you then. i'd argue building a total of two with zero success is a falling short but if you still got nothing out of it, you were probably just wasting time.
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>>123958987
>i havent tried it out myself
it's always some retarded kid like you with no experience that comes in cocky like they know eveyrthing
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>>123959003
lol he built two pedals and gave up. doesn't sound like he approached it with the right attitude at all
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name the next thread /pedal/ general
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>>123959044
/prod/al
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locking tuners or luthier knot?
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>>123959038
Bro, I don't know. You can't hold me to not trying.

It's ok to fail and realize it's not for me. Why are you so hellbent on that?

Plus I wanted to do it to save money and honestly it costs way more than you think.
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>>123959038
>doesn't sound like he approached it with the right attitude at all
it doesn't sound like that all. you're projecting crazy shit onto this from a position of never having done it. troubleshooting electronics that don't work is a bitch, even experienced people struggle and scrap projects all the time
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>>123959069
>Plus I wanted to do it to save money
as pointed out, thats not why you build pedals. unfortunately for you, you learned the hard way. im not gonna become a luthier and build my own guitars because it saves me money.
but two pedals really sounds like a weak venture
>>123959077
didnt ask. lose weight
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>>123959044
Are you the guy who started using Renoise a year or two ago?
>>123958712
The siren needs to be louder.
>>123953750
This is a beautiful piece of wood.
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>>123958987
To be fair, I made one cool pedal design with Inkscape but realized making ink vectors with that program is a chore too. I would rather figure out vectors on old school Adobe Illustrator on goddamn Windows XP or run it through WINE before I would attempt it again.

I move my interests often though so ADD I think can be blamed to be honest.
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>>123959086
Separate anon. Go kill yourself. Troubleshooting circuits is a fucking pain even for me. At least he tried.
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>>123959101
still didn't ask. lose weight
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>>123959003
Agreed. Look at this dumb Zoomer who thinks guitar pedal building is so easy. What an asshole
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>>123959104
Gottem.

Fitter than you will ever be after fucking your whale of a mom.
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americans are such soft cunts. maybe if your circadian rhythm wasn't completely destroyed and you didn't eat so much corn syrup you might be able to think more rationally and finish projects but you simply continue to waste time and money.
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>>123959123
stop eating so much corn syrup you dementia patient
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>>123959131
rent free
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>>123959152
corn syrup
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>>123959139
Rent free
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>>123959314
high fructose corn syrup and trans-hydrogenated vegetable oils
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What do you guys eat? I make meat, eggs, and veggies in the oven everyday. Easy and lets me keep producing while it cooks. No sneed oils.
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>>123959352
>put in veggies and meat in slowcooker
>put in rice or potatoes in other cooker
>make music
>BRBRBLRBLRBLRLBLRVBLRBLRLBLRLBL
>mfw i think my speakers are blown but it is just the cooking noises
happens everytime.
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>>123959352
i mostly fry eggs and steak with ghee in the pan. sometimes ill make wraps with bacon and eggs, cheese and fried kale and spinach. ill add mustard and sauerkraut if im feeling adventurous. eggs are essential in any diet. i steal them all the time from my local grocer
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>>123959327
>meds
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>>123959449
because doctors get a commission from prescribing actual poison to their experiments (their patients). this is how the opioid crisis began and why it continues to destroy communites across the united states. an actual dystopia over there
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>>123959480
well...
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Only these schizo posters leave negative responses on my vocaroos

Everybody loves my music it’s soo cool
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>>123959369
kek. To be fair my oven fan gets a bit loud so I do tasks that require less attentive listening when food is cooking.

>>123959393
Sounds really good..
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>>123959449
What does it mean to never take any medication?
I'm not going to not take an antibiotic before oral surgery because I don't want to get fucked up, but that's all I'll take. I won't accept any pain medication or anything else.
I guess I'm not based enough to be in that bottom group because I would take an antibiotic .
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>>123959595
my bro trying to get medical advice from me over channel 4 is a slightly stupid idea dont you think? not that i couldnt give it, i am an absolute expert in almost everything but well.. it is stupid.
just dont take fluor based antibiotics and there are over 500 drugs that can cause ototoxicity. go look up what ototoxicity is, pretty important for your music :)
not being deaf you know..
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>>123959714
>my bro trying to get medical advice from me over channel 4 is a slightly stupid idea dont you think?
No, post post 311 in these threads is where we find wisdom for life.
Fuck doctors; I put my faith in the creator's plan.
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>>123959518
you ever heard of capitalism? it requires zero ethics and morality to operate. all of these youtubers trying to sell you their useless plugin? high af on oxy because their diets gave them severe chronic pain. now they consume double of what they were consuming on top of the oxy
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>>123959523
>schizo posters
>posters
>plural
uhhh lad...
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>>123953065
come on man.
If you're asking questions like this, just use an ai generator to make music for you.
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>>123960251
ever heard of "The_Iron_Cage_Revisited_Isomorphism_in_Organizational_Fields"
pretty gud
>...a paradox arises: rational actors make their organizations increasingly similar as they try to change them.
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>>123960443
sounds like thesis for the wire
thin line between heaven and here..
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>>123960251
>>123960443
>>123960709
NTA but while we're on the subject:
>https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/

Thoughts?
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someone make a new thread
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>>123931611
>>123931622
yeah i haven't demoed pedals specifically but many digital products literally suck ass, the pajeet coders haven't figured out how to get a top tier analog sound
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fuck you guys this song is going to be a BANGER

i'm the best!



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