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schizo edition
Previous Thread: >>124025423
>Production Resources:
https://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q
https://pastebin.com/p2QUqMzj

>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributors
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com

Use vocaroo to post WIPs.
No youtube, soundcloud and other shilling websites allowed
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https://vocaroo.com/19seNOYhFan3
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>>124056174
yes i'm uncomfortable
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>>124056292
I'm sorry
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>>124056388
it'll be okay ...
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what do you guys chuck parallel compression onto?
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is there any benefit to getting into trackers these days? I tried renoise years ago and didn't really like it. tried buzz and felt the same. just tried sunvox and it was just so irritating to use, the amount of steps you have to go through to set up a single sequence and yeah I'm very new to sunvox but this has been my experience with all trackers. do they provide a different enough workflow that it would be worth pushing through it and learning to use them or are they overhyped?
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>>124056908
parallel compression is one of the strongest sounding effects imo so i wonder why you couldn't hear it, but yes parallel saturation is also cool. what about envelope shaping? can it be run in parallel?
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>>124057040
I only used sunvox all of those years ago because it was the first time I learned how to use synths and a general gateway into DAWs, vsts, and engineering. I probably wouldn't use it today because of how tedious it is but I made many many hours of material on it. I think it requires a beginner's patience to use it
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>>124057112
it definitely feels like you're right. shame, it looks very cool and I'm sure a different way of doing things would have interesting results but my god it feels like you're trying to program the concept of music itself into reality with how much you have to define just to say "play a scale please" which sounds incredibly cool but to me is very much not.
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>>124057070
the last time i bothered including it in my autistic a/b/c's with close compression settings was years ago and it didn't occur to me that i haven't reevaluated since then, which is why i deleted because obviously that's dumb

>envelope shaping
what like shaperbox? transient shaping?
i only recall doing it like once and the latency made it unusable, but there were probably other factors.
the whole point of parallel compression is supposed to be that the release curve or whatever changes, so it has a measurably different sound than equivalent gain reduction against regular compression.
... i don't think that's the case for envelope shaping like on shaperbox for example since you're triggering something pre-set
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Reposting from >>124028203
A couple of months ago a lot of Patreon dumps got uploaded to AudioZ and I downloaded everything I could.
This (pic related) is everything I have:
https://pastebin.com/mRFj0DXJ
If there's something you want I can upload it for you (within reason, and on my own time obviously).

I won't be able to upload for maybe 12 to 16 hours but I probably will after that.
This is the last post I make about it.

For the Noisia/Underdog Anon:
>>124048113
>>124049777
I can't upload all of that. Just tell me which ones you want the most.
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The amount of attention to detail, random little effects, automation, layering throughout the song, never repeating........

IT'S SO HARD AAAAHHHH
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>>124057856
you get faster at it.
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>>124052820
guess how much of it the average ESL comprehends? "that's that me espresso" and that's about it, we literally just hear the instrumentals and the melody/timbre of her voice
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>>124057861
i'm super fast. i'm FAST AS FUCK

there is too much. i am but one person.
maybe... i need... a partner...
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>>124056056
https://vocaroo.com/1mpvvHyqNXT6
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Does eq fix really things always?
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>>124056174
shits fire, reminds me of the end of autechre tracks like SURRIPERE
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>>124058233
No because arrangement and sound selection may make EQ worthless short of completely neutering the sound
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>>124058233
no
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Acoustic recording. Thinking about percussion like shakers or tambourines. Am I on the right track?
https://voca.ro/1idEk9pioDDR
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update to the, absurd, christmas track for a christmas party:

https://voca.ro/1gK3NYQr8HnS

the vocal track is just in there for the meme and some nostalgia
i think i've got to glue that transition better together somehow
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>>124058394
It's inoffensive, but i'm not getting anything out of it.
Sounds like an interlude on a rock album of unspecified genre.
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Anchor
>>>/g/102835694
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>>124058966
Fuck off.
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Legend returns in less than 2 minutes! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMPt6O9XBbU
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Sunvox is cool, but it needs more audio routing options. It should be able to connect with my audio interface and handle multiple inputs + outputs.
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>>124058969
Ahahahahahahahaha
Ahahahahahahahaha
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>124059069
>Ur mom is cool, but she's needs more routing options. She should be able to connect with me and handle multiple inputs + outputs
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Trying to make music feels like a pointless exercise when I can't sing and wouldn't want to use my voice even if I could. Why begin on a song knowing it will always be lacking the most important part and can't ever be finished
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>>124059888
You can write different music or maybe start singing or find someone to do it for you idk stop being a baby
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>>124059888
Youre right a few years of signing every day will definitely have 0 benefit
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Somebody explain pan laws (ableton) to me like i'm stupid

I tend to use utility for any pan automation and idk if that's harmful or different from using the mixer.
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been a while since i made some DNB...is this worthy of being finished?

https://vocaroo.com/111SZ5utZoqe
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>>124060392
check out the plugin pancake for some panning shenanigans
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>>124059888
yes this is cursed, even in a technical dream scenario like if you have endgame audio so you can hear every part of a track in great fidelity to help analyze previously successful songs and inform decisions when making new songs, it's going to be incredibly difficult to get anywhere without connections to be able to work with singers etc. there are few exceptions of people who found success from making mostly instrumental music like aphex twin and such
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>>124060414
>>124060392
https://www.cableguys.com/pancake

is free
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>>124060432
>>124060414
>:|
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Airwindows Bright Ambience.

Ableton Hybrid Reverb Prism..?
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>>124060392
right click split stereo pan
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>>124060567
yes but this does not help
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LET'S GOOO bros my song is done!
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>>124060709
you are so fucking unfunny dude jesus christ, give it a rest
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>>124060709
Use a steeper curve on the high pass, you're leaving in a lot of inaudible frequencies that cut into your headroom
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>>124060709
It needs 90 degree angles on each side before I would even consider farting in the direction of your miserable little track.
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is this bad?
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>>124060877
you what

>>124060853
>>124060812
leave
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>>124059888
your lack of desire to sing isn't what indicates you'd be a bad musician.
>>124060397
yes, continue with it
>>124060877
is what bad I don't use fl studio.
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>>124060882
>>124060892
one soundwave is bleeding into the other one
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>>124060905
There's no reason you'd want that
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>>124060905
well it means your kick doesn't fully end before the next one starts but the tail is also cut off so they aren't bleeding together which is (usually) bad so that's good. this is very much a "it's right if it's what you're trying to do" thing. if that sounds how you want it to that's fine.
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>>124060920
wait maybe the tails are overlapping now that I look at it again. best not to do that.
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>>124060918
>>124060932
whats the best sounding way to do it? just cut off the previous kick right before the next one starts?
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>>124060955
are you serious

bro stop
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If you actually wanna get good at production, mixing, mastering, you need to join this server full of a bunch of the best musicians who post here. They are full of great advice.

discord.gg/sFP7mzGr
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>>124060987
doubt
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>>124060892
>yes, continue with it
thank you...any ideas how to proceed? thinking about an atmospheric breakdown...2 minutes so that the drop will be really impactful
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>>124060955
depends, if you want your kicks to hit harder it's better for the ones before them to fully stop so in that case, I would use a kick with a shorter tail or cut off the tails of those and fade them out. if you prefer to have the kicks not completely fade out before the next one then I would cut the tails right where the impact of the next kick starts.
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>>124060955
I'm kinda treating that last way of doing it as a "valid but experimental" way of doing things so in all likelihood you probably just want to use shorter kicks or fade them out before the next transient.
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>>124060709
Remember to sweep through and knock out all those annoying ringing frequencies guys!
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>>124061334
based soothe+
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>>124061334
synths are just complicated eqs. so are effects. it's eqs all the way down I'm afraid.
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>>124058973
this is fine to do on individual tracks except for a sub track and kick
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>>124060987
>production, mixing, mastering
Hmm. I think I'll stick to making my schizo shit thanks.
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>>124061334
>our frequency must be as flat as possible!
do normans actually do this shit?
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Im the next big thing and i need a producer DM me
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>>124061745
dmd you bro
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>>124061688
Yeah this is how you sound pro
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>>124061688
quite honestly if you've never needed to eq this way you are likely creatively bankrupt anyway.
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>>124061688
Flat music is good. Dynamics are microaggressions.
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>>124062027
they don't take into account the hard of hearing or the autistic so I would agree, dynamics are definitely at least racist.
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>>124062069
Or listening in the car, man. I can't be turning your quiet as fuck sections down to hear it over the road noise just for your dumb ass to blast my speakers out 20 seconds later.
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>>124058933
It’s not rock it’s more folk I suppose. It’s very bare bones right now, what should I add to it. I plan on vocals and more synths can’t decide on percussion
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>>124061854
or you don't know how to mix
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why are most eqs only 4 band? and why do most lack the mid and side capabilities?
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2 whole days of practice in a row. If I keep going by the end of the year I can hit 80 days maybe. I know this isn't prod related but I have no where else
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>>124063372
you don't need more. low, low mid, high mid, and high freq. surgical parametric eq autism is a waste of time

what daw are you using that it isn't at least 8 band parametric with m/s?
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>>124063340
mix? im talking about sound design
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Is logic really that much better than something like ableton or protools? I don't want to have to buy a mac
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>>124063712
Isn't that the same thing?
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>>124063897
yes, if you're dumb enough to think that
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>>124063945
Even the bots are mean for no reason now
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https://vocaroo.com/18OMZZA3C2bZ

Early WIP, is this gay? Am I gay? Are we all gay?
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>>124063897
Ableton lets you use max devices which are essentially free synths and effects many of which are novel and quite usable even if some are obscure and poorly coded. I like ripping patches apart and taking out people's dumb logos and shit and putting better controls in. you should use Ableton. or whatever but max devices are a big plus.
>>124063908
ultimately yes but I think the original eq meme is about mixing, he specifically memes about highpassing at 20hz which is something you mostly do for mixing purposes. I pointed out that not having to use a weird eq means you provide haven't experimented much. I know ive often had to use bizarre eqs because of the unconventional sources I have so the fact that someone either doesn't use eq or finds complex eq to be, idk, cringe or whatever, to me, suggests a lack of curiosity.
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>>124064359
>Ableton lets you use max devices
Ableton lets you install max4live, which allows for max4live devices to be used within Ableton Live. Max4live only comes bundled with Live Suite, but it can be purchased separately.
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>>124063897
Use all of them
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>>124064359
i have live suite and learned to use m4l a fair amount but imo it's not worth the headache of building your sounds around instruments in it or seeking out other people's. breaking changes between versions are annoying and it's a pain in the ass to debug things. the average producer is not really ever going to do anything useful or practical with it
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>>124064531
steal it on the internet
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>>124064635
I mostly use them to fill very specific niches. I have one that takes video input and converts it to a modulation signal which is fun. I made one that just hold notes so I can set up loops and drones really fast, that sort of thing. I agree that its best to use other people's stuff. I don't have much issues with version changes, I just stick with one version. you could make amazing shit on like Ableton 8 or FL studio 11 these days so I'm fine with Ableton 11, it's good enough.
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since we were talking about planning earlier this is a fun device https://maxforlive.com/library/device/239/circular-doppler
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>>124064737
*panning my finger slipped while I was fingering my pussy
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>>124064693
yeah, that kinda stuff is the perfect thing for it. that or audio/visual things for installations

the version thing was breaking changes for me from 10 to 11. also i've scoured forums for stuff i wanted to do and it was always some older, broken code that didn't load. the back compat story on maxmsp itself is not good
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>>124063515
I'm not using a daw that doesn't come with a parametric eq, I am just asking why some eqs aren't simply parametric as a standard
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>>124064359
>weird eq
it's because somewhere in the mix, you fucked up with conflicting bands and now you are applying a dirty bandage to an infected mix. significant high and low cut filters in the mastering stage shouldn't need to be done.
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>>124065390
yes and the solution to having frequencies you don't want is to eq them out. what, should we synthesize everything additively so we have perfect control over every frequency? hey if you make a UI that can do that in a way that won't make me want to die I will pay you for it.
>significant high and low cut filters in the mastering stage shouldn't need to be done.
mastering stage I agree, mixing stage it's fine and sound design it's even finerer.
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>>124065390
I am genuinely curious, say your sound source is literally anything. you have no standards, they range from low quality phone recordings to wavs of synths. frequencies just everywhere. what do you actually DO to fix random frequencies being too loud? or to remove low end from high pitched stuff that doesn't need it? I'm interested in your idea but what is your preferred alternative to eq?
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>make massive full range walls of sound chords with 7-10 notes each spanning 5 octaves and dozens of synth layers
>Bus all together
>Cut 1k hz -20db
>Fill it with a glorious lead
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>>124065761
audiating this sounds like a good idea
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>>124065390
it's amateur retards only here with the strongest opinions on this. you are NOT allowed to know anything here, if you mention shelving filters instead of cuts then you're trolling
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>>124065789
Par for the course in symphonic composition
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Just in the late stages of finishing up this little synth-pop number.
Just the vocals (female) to go.

https://vocaroo.com/1ms3YxlFl2iL
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>>124065345
many plugin devs are stupid tech illiterate hipsters who are basically just scamming wannabe musicnigs for their money
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>>124066630
yes that is obvious, just go to the one of the first few results on youtube when looking for mixing advice.
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>>124065345
because filter design and the goals of the plugin
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>Trolling and unserious Californiaspeak
Good thread.
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>>124067164
>Californiaspeak
the schizos have arrived
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>>124067170
>The schizos
>the schizos are everywhere
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>>124067184
schizos are gangstalking me
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>>124067200
The CIA stole my cellphone
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>>124067241
that is actually believable
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>he doesn't use analogue gear
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>>124067275
I will not buy that to make unreleased music. $2000 for better results?
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>>124067275
>he doesn't build his own instruments using stuff from the hardware store
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>>124067396
yes your flute from bunnings was quite nice
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>>124067434
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGxeIH-F6O0
You can get pretty good sound out of something with zero moving parts.
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>His hats aren't the sampled sound of breaking cabbages
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your memetexts aren't funny and never were
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>>124067680
Why couldn't you have posted a confused looking anime girl instead of whatever creature that is?
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>>124067744
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>>124067841
Thanks that's much better I'll hide that other post now.
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>>124067689
>I just keep telling him to stop but they won't Stahp
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>He doesn't layer the sampled sound of water draining from PVC pipes for his pads
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>his stabs aren't the sampled sound of deep underwater whale calls
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>>124067974
You actually like that wouldn't be cool.
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>hes never used dolphin noises for toms
>He has 0 flocks of calling seagulls in his sample collection
>He's never even sampled the sound of the wind for noise risers
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>>124064635
this...m4l is a gimmick, nothing more...dabbled around...too much hassle, not really inspiring, waste of time and workflow
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>he's never farted into a surgical glove then recored the noise of letting the air out slowly, then reversed, slowed and added a bunch of pointless effects to it
If you dare to find out: https://vocaroo.com/13pIyqEzFw01
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>>124064737
gonna use this to resample for my amen autism final stage thanks
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https://voca.ro/16XouDpbhboS
If ya know ya know
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>>124066616
>https://vocaroo.com/18OMZZA3C2bZ
your mixing is sooooo clean omg
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>>124067434
the fuckin aussies are back
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>>124061020
>>124060397
Definitely continue anon this is comfy liquid dnb love the guitar intro, imo you should fade in the drums earlier. The low end seems a bit lackluster.
Use EQ to filter lows after 8 bars or take some drums out for more variety.
Make a 2nd break, the track gets repetitive halfway
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Another Low End Check then please:
https://voca.ro/18w1JcMHs9IS
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>>124070257
much better, anon, my woofer actually picked that up.
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>>124070288
Phew, finally. Thank you.
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>>124070324
did you fix the drop as well?
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>>124069807
im always here
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>>124069727
no samefagging thanks
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I'm looking for a field recorder to record found sound percussion samples from the industrial sites around me but I'm too poor to buy a handful of different models to experiment and see how their differing mic capsules colour the sound, and I can't figure a way to try-before-I-buy. I hear sounds that would be suitable for what I have in mind when I'm out and need to capture the audio as close to how it sounds to the ear as possible. Long term I should save for a binaural mic but that's years off so what should I get in the meantime do you think? Budget £150-200. I don't care about fancy extra features or anything, just how it sounds and lossless format.
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another day passes and no new projects. I don't know how to motivate myself or even start a project. I find programming drums daunting
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>>124070524
ice forms from nucleation points. anything, do literally anything that starts the process. if you don't like programming drums try playing them directly and sequencing later.
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>>124070257
>>124070288
>woofer
bruh i've listened to it every post on crappy beat to shit headphones and can pick up the difference immediately like legitimately what are you monitoring through that it took this long?
this legitimately should have been fixed in 30 seconds

>>124070524
hahaha just make a new song bro what are you doing
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https://vocaroo.com/16aSFpCRHTPA

A Variation on the Canon in C Major By Anon
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>>124071639
bravo
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>>124071639
I don't know classical composition/prod that well, but as a casual listener this sounds unpleasant to me. I think it's a mixture of the cheapy sounding VSTs, how you've chosen to assign instruments to each part, and how boring you've made it.
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Spent over an hour last night playing songs through my 404 while manipulating them. Didn't bother to record any of it because it sounded terrible but it was a lot of fun. I still suck at picking out what parts of a song to sample. I got the part of a song I wanted to sample but I figured out I just wanted the vocals from the track and I gotta find a program to do that.
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I'm sick so I'll go through your vocaroos

>>124066616
Sounds good but a bit "royalty-free type beat", would love to hear with vocals to complete the song.

>>124069058
dumb

>>124069710
i do not like how low the drums are, or the bassline, but the vocal effects are cool

>>124070257
good, i like it

>>124071639
fun fact: i used to have one of those keyboards where there were lights under the keys so you could do tutorials on it. Canon in D was one of the songs on it, but for some reason they put it in C, so my muscle memory has always been in C and this reminded me of that. I like the piece, good job.


https://voca.ro/1hAKsvjMJvMd
This is an ambient piece I made. I was looking for an old electronic piece I did and Ableton was missing the files for the drums. Decided to salvage it by slowing it down, reversing, and adding effects. Been really inspired by Selected Ambient Works II lately.
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reading through this thread and some of you fundamentally do not understand mastering. flat frequency response on your master will not make all of your bass sound the same volume as high frequencies because there is a natural curve to human hearing (A-weighting and C-weighting, look it up) where we are more sensitive to higher or lower frequencies than others. So, even though the graph looks flat, your perception of it is different. Also people referring to "dynamics" when we're talking about frequency domain baka
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>>124072505
There’s more than one spectrum you dumb bitch that’s why people don’t just use the DAW default and people mean dynamics by spectrum BAKA
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>>124072472
You skipped my post but i give you some feedback still:
nice atmosphere going on there. feeling the halloween vibes. or stalker, in the zone
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>>124070524

drumming the is the most fun part, wtf? but then, come from a beat heavy background.
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>>124072561
which are you? I'll listen now. and thanks, love Stalker
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>>124070078
thank you. i can work with that feedback
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>try other daws
>they're bad
>try logic
>it's good
What gives
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>>124072712
Macultists
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>>124070469
get whatever the most featureful portable zoom is then later on you can expand with an xlr external
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>>124072505
sounds like you don't know what you're talking about. a lot of spectrum plugins are tilted to account for that so flat is actually -3 db/oct like pink noise
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>>124072472
I had a similar keyboard, although mine didnt have flashing keys but a screen with keys. I loved playing it, wish i continued in music school with piano. I think im gonna start piano lessons soon
>>124071894
Gracie
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closer......... (sorry 4 x3 i had to revive)

https://vocaroo.com/18uVUqsTVGeH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FpkHjJTrZY
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>>124070837
>this legitimately should have been fixed in 30 seconds
people have lives you do realize that right
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>>124073879
I don't see what that has to do with making a simple fader move or EQ change but okay
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>>124073955
maybe try to be a bit nicer instead of being a twat?
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>>124073879
NO I'M SO BUSY I HAVE A LIFE I CAN'T TAKE 2 SECONDS TO FIX MY MIX BUT I CAN TYPE 10S OF MESSAGES AND FILL OUT CAPTCHAS AAAAAA
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>>124073965
Okay, sorry.
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>>124073971
fucking retard
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>>124073819
Based Gystal Jonstles
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>>124073985
wow you're so busy you found the time to fill out another reply but can't find 20 seconds to fix a mix? that's crazy
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>>124074187
fucking twat
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>>124074085
idgi but i'm gonna interpret that positively thanks bro
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does this sound overly compressed
https://vocaroo.com/1oR7ZltXrjTP
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>>124073985
>>124074205
nice argument
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>>124074255
Kinda sounds like a remix of Crystal Castles' Kerosene in whatever genre G Jones makes (halftime?).
It was intended as a compliment lol.
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>>124074688
ohhhh lmao. yeah i kind of see the kerosene comparison, thanks

the initial idea started from an EPROM remake actually but it all leaks in there of course
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lc3S7ahMlk
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been throwing portal on everything i have bros lol
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finished the DNB track today...i think...onto the next one

how is the mix? enough punch? enough variety in the arrangement?

https://vocaroo.com/15srT4czKIqm
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>dont smoke weed before practice or producing
>have a panic attack about lack of skill, starting music too late in life and not being able to make the song i feel are good
>smoke weed before practice or producing
>things go slower but i have a good time
is this drug dependency? i cant tell, i do have sessions of sober practice or producing when i dont freak out they are just more rare. it's really really hard to convince myself im not a loser. i dont know what it is about being a beginner but i have breakthroughs where i can feel myself getting better at practice but something inside still telling me,
>"you are worse than X or Y at this and its pointless to even try. You'll never make or sample flip like the people you admire because they started as teenagers, you started at 27 and have not consistently kept up with anything in the last year."
how do you convince yourself that its okay to be bad? i feel so dumb even typing this but I have nobody else to turn to.
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dude weed lmao
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why do ppl get so mad whenever weed is mentioned. i dont get how it could make you this angry
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>>124076240
who is mad? everyone is laughing at you for being a child
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>>124076254
you are clearly mad because weed was mentioned. if you didnt care you wouldnt even talk about it. since you are clearly being negative, you dont like it. which means mentioning weed makes you angry
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>>124076240
Why do half of all posts contain nothing but negative emotion? Because they worship Satan
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>>124076164
>is this drug dependency?
dependency means "need to function" m8 and this is a situational version of that. ... but it's weed dude calm down lol

*everybody* starts off being bad.
you should only feel bad if you you jump through some mental hoops and become one of those terminal ngmi type posters; just enjoy the climb up dude.

>>124076254
>>124076278
>>124076190
>calling other people a child and acting like this
get a grip dude
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>>124076266
>sad weed addict is defensive and can't understand other people's feelings
lmaoing at you, the opposite of mad
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>I need my le heckin substances to produce music
you would never set foot in my studio
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>>124076318
I think i definitely just read too much shit on the internet. Not even 4chan but other websites of people just doomposting about their failures then telling myself, "this situation is slightly similar to mine. I should just give up." But in my heart I don't believe any of the shit i think. I enjoy failing at playing something one day then the next day I try it feels natural and I got better. A lot of times as a beginner, when I fail my immediate thought process becomes similar to a doomposter. The work ethic is really all that matters. This is a bit of a redundant conversation to have but my friends don't produce so it's hard to talk with them about it. Appreciate you taking the time to talk about it.
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>>124076240
in some countries, weed is legal. in some countries, prostitution is legal. however, you can live a healthy lifestyle without resorting to being a drug addict or a sex addict. even just taking nutritional supplements is underrated. or keeping up with technological advancements like upgrading your computer and such.
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>listen to me bro I have the best energy, I know everything, what's best for me is best for everyone and oh yeah and some people are disgusting subhuman animals who exist for me to vent my negativity upon the moment they identity themselves as violating my immaculate moral code
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>>124076543
Felt and I went through pretty much identical with the drugs overlapping differently lol.

At some point it's better to just recognize your negative thought processes and view that+your internet browsing patterns as negative habits that you just need to quit.
Personally I just observe myself when I start to doom scroll or think negatively about whatever i'm doing musically and think something like "is this going to help me in some way?" or "i'd be having much more fun right now NOT reading this and making music instead" etc.
Same applies to 4chan when shitposting gets too bad.
... like I just close the thread and don't think about it anymore lol. Much easier.
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>>124076266
>you are clearly mad because weed was mentioned.
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i still can't decide if i need to be running effects chains while recording such as reverbs and compressors at a minimum or just recording completely dry and applying the effects chains later. the reverb seems to help the performance somewhat if im recording guitar over drums and bass, but i always felt a compressor buss really helped tie things together and give it its own character in the mix during the recording process. thoughts?
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>>124076714
If performance yes
If anything else unless you’re 100% certain it’s just better and you won’t need to walk it back, no
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>>124076714
is your latency good? then do it. if not then don't. effects absolutely make a difference in how you perform but if you care about precision then you might even disable monitoring in the daw
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A beat a day
Day 3 ukulele edition
https://voca.ro/18Db8m2OP1Es
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVPEP_KSldA
how tf do you get this glossy sound to vocals like this that sit on top of the mix perfectly? no matter how much I try I can't replicate it.
It almost sounds like boosted high end but it doesn't sound too harsh either. how tf.
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>>124077229
cut highs on everything else
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>>124077272
is it really that simple
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>>124077306
You could probably check for yourself pretty easily.
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>>124076851
bad touch
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>>124077311
I don't think it would sound the same since i'm not a woman
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>>124077306
Did you listen to the song? Yes, on top of having an amazing singer and a good song/arrangement, that's it. She shines because there's nothing else up there but that shaker which stands out for similar reasons.
There's not some hidden trick.
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Am I on the right path with this? New to sampling and doing beats in general. Any critiques or help is much welcomed.

https://voca.ro/14NWVK29jqYj
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>>124077312
Bloodhound gang?
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the mixing console feature in cubase is cubased.
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>>124077398
>cutting low end from your bass
ehh??
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>>124077604
i was testing something. im not cutting it anymore
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>>124077398
are all those blue lines between the routing and the track names on the right eqs?
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>>124077707
left sorry I'm tried
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>>124077707
yes
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Finished this at 3am. A real mood setter

https://voca.ro/1cRNohbXvMM0
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15 min repeating timer and no poasting make anon a dull boy
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>>124077853
you should give the drums more energy. like in my head you could do a triplet thing with the first kick and tie it with that inital whistle sound like dododo da dum. then into that 2nd part. idk if i described it well but it was good but if you got more creative with the drums and adding skips into it you'd have a banger. dont even need to change the tempo
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What can I use to make music while lying in bed on my side? Potentially with the covers over my head.
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>>124078512
A time machine where GPT voice command for midi input exists complete with the entire history of composed music
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https://vocaroo.com/11CawLGrxPKe
my attempt at a mogwai rip off. how can it be improved?
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>>124079322
rip off a better band lmao

for real though the drums are fucked, everything else sounds fine
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>>124079375
>for real though the drums are fucked
indeed. any ideas on how to fix them? can't really tell where they fell apart tb h
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>>124078935
I know music, I'm just weak and tired.. and usually cold.
One option I came up with is a backlit gameboy running LSDJ.
I would prefer something that would let me make 90s jungle/techo/00s video game music.
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https://voca.ro/1nMJYwKNvwAH

first draft, been listening to a lot of "trashwave" on soundcloud and this is my attempt at recreating that sound
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>>124079413
There are daws for mobile
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>>124079640
I'm on Android, so it seems like my only option is Caustic. Maybe. I do have the Korg Kaosillator app for fun.
I'm still doing research for my bed box, but I'm really intrigued by the M8 model 2.
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Hey fellas Im completely new to digital Music and want to make bad ass brassy house music like this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_JZdMxgNHo&pp=ygUYdGhlIGJ1Y2tldGhlYWRzIHRoZSBib21i

I've tried Midi horns but they sound like shit I know this song sampled another one but is there a way to get good sounding horns in FLStudio thank u. sorry I'm super beg
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the FLStudio subreddit is such cancer holy shit. im so thankful im a cubased chad
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>>124079858
look at flex tools and all the free packs, but that's almost all samples which is what you should look for in songs (solo horn stabs)
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I went into a project with a sound in mind and pulled up a reference track and Tb h the reference track isn't even mixed well so I merely referenced my brain and ears
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>>124080067
awful
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>>124079700
You could use FL studio mobile (in so far as that joke is usable).
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I was laying in bed falling asleep nd I was audiating a thing im writing and when the intro ended and the chords hit it was a deafening sound it scared me like accidentally routing something wrong and boom maximum volume
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>>124080269
The hypnogogic state is no joke.
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>>124080269
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploding_head_syndrome
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>>124060432
Pretty sure you can do that in the midi editor of ableton
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>>124077229
There's nothing else happening in the vocal area except a quite synth

Just slight stereo delay of the vocal or use Dee doubler vst
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>>124078512
Ableton Move, do you have yours yet?
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>>124080599
lol. I was watching the elektronauts speculation thread and saw that Sweetwater leaked it at midnight before Ableton's official announcement and I was pretty close to clicking buy but I decided against it because it doesn't have a nice way to chop breakbeats.

I'm thinking I'll be going with the m8 on some chinese handheld.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxAxiY7Xfl0
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>>124080402
This is the cusp of obe, you have to push through the fear.
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>>124080637
You can't chop with that, on Move they have the manual way to do it. I'm getting one, it looks choice. I will load it up wtih many samples , 64 gigs, finally a box has space in it
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>>124070357
>no samefagging thanks
Nah, that ain't me. I haven't even really started mixing that number yet, I've only really just finished writing all the main instrumentation so yeah, I wouldn't be bragging about that 'mix' t b h.

>>124072472
>Sounds good but a bit "royalty-free type beat", would love to hear with vocals to complete the song.
Haha that gave me a chuckle, cheers. What in particular is giving off the deepest 'royalty free' vibes anon?
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>>124077229
Are your vocals as good as hers? I'm talking about the quality. Ariana Grande has a recording process developed over years, a very specific vocal chain that is perfect for her vocals.

After years of trying I still fail to reach this quality, but what helped me over the years
>manual adjustments before any plugins (huge improvement of the end result in my case)
>cutting, crossfades, volume adjustments, manual de-essing
>first the surgical process with plugins, the musical processing comes at the end
>get your signal you are going to work with as clean as possible
>natural atuo tune? try to use a auto tune in series, spread the heavy lifting on several plugins
>for that glossy / airy sound boost shelf at 20k or 40k kHz (there is a free plugin called Luftikus) combined with a subtle shimmer reverb
>vocals should be in your face and pretty dry, so focus on your mono signal (reducing reverbs, adding a pre-delay, compressing the reverb)
>your side signals can get a pretty aggressive de-essing and EQ (this keeps the overall harshness in check)
>use parallel processing as much as possible, if you had done your job right at the start you can easily blend them all together with your clean signal with just the faders
>try out more compressing than you usually would do (here you can mess around with compressors in series too, with different settings)

With all this said, you are still lacking the talent of Ariana Grande at the mic. She is the main factor why her vocals sound so good.
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>>124078512
Ableton Note
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>begin a project
>have a vague idea in mind
>start jamming to the idea
>as im jamming the idea takes an entirely different trajectory
>begin to mix and arrange at the same time
does anyone else do this? i dont think it's very effective. I need to actually write these songs instead writing as im mixing, but the mixing gives me ideas for the songs as im going so i find it hard to stop.
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>>124082425
As long as it is basic mixing and you are in some kind of flow state I don't see any issues with that.
If you are working with other people this could become a problem. This is where a template helps so can stay creative while the template takes care of 80% basic mixing issues.
Proper mixing should be done with fresh ears and is a whole new process.
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>>124082488
yeah it's nothing fancy, im only using cubase elements and dont have third party plugins or the very little i do have i use sparingly and opt for the stock cubase plugins instead.
i have a couple of templates; developed one today for the project i got to a semi-decent polished state which i was happy with, so im gonna stick to that for a little while for the noisy stuff im working on.
what exactly do you mean by proper mixing? something that's going to be an official release and becoming commercially available?
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>>124077829
damn that's really hot.
>>124082425
this is how everything happens for me, I've accepted that I just can't write music, I can play it and produce it but I can't write it. its only a problem if that bothers you.
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>>124082608
wait does that mean i can't write music? damn i suck
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>>124082519
>what exactly do you mean by proper mixing? something that's going to be an official release and becoming commercially available?

Yes. Getting your mix to a level ready for mastering (if you are an amateur like me mastering means simply getting the song ready for uploading to streaming sites).
Your production should be basically finished so no major changes are happening while mixing, for example major changes in arrangement or switching out sounds. I even seperate these processes with different templates. I have a sound design / sample making template, I have a production template and I have a mixing template. This forces me to commit, if I bounce my production into stems and load up into my mixing template I'm more focused on mixing, instead of messing around again with sound design, adjusting reverbs, trying out new kicks and so on.
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>>124082761
makes sense. thanks for the insight anon. always nice to get a different perspective on things here. this is my problem, after i have begun mixing, i also start to investigate different sounds and this clearly inteferes with the mix and thus the song idea changes, the arrangement changes. it's a messy process and ive gotta find a way to commit like you have.
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>>124082618
I imagine that, like me, if you really try and stop yourself from going off on tangents, you could write music. it seems like that's not how your brain wants to interact with music so it's not what comes naturally. you can definitely develop that into writing if you want to. you just have to not do all the cool things your brain is suggesting to you. for me that makes the whole process such a pain that I don't want to do it so I don't bother.
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>>124082820
tb h for the past for few years my brother and i never really "wrote" things, we would usually just record 40 minute psychedelic/post rock jams and call it a day, but nothing ever set in stone. i think i got very used to this workflow, letting the music inform in real time rather than having a goal.
>you just have to not do all the cool things your brain is suggesting to you
yeah pretty much this. a studio provides a lot of possibilities and opportunities that can be somewhat counter-productive if not managed correctly.
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>>124081001
>Haha that gave me a chuckle, cheers. What in particular is giving off the deepest 'royalty free' vibes anon?

I think the main synth patch, as well as the way it's structured, just makes me think of background music to a tutorial. This doesn't mean bad though, i do think vocals will help with this
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>>124080664
>You can't chop with that
Changing the sample startpoint via commands is close enough for me.
I'm sure that the Move would be fun too and I love the idea of the streamlined integration with Live.
>>124081129
>iPhone
I had a 5s but hate the Apple way of doing things, so I went back to Android.
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>>124084765
I haven't used it much but n-track is workable, bandlab exists too
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https://voca.ro/15G0VwLsnMLt
i made this in high school
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Please buy Sunvox for Android and send me a copy.
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>>124084799
>n-track
Looks pretty good. Thank you.
I'll have to see how that one guy learning Bandlab fares.
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How do i get better at bass production? I like working with 808s mainly. I just get a nice sounding one shot, plop down a melody in piano roll al call it a day. All my tracks have shitty bass, so whats the trick? I tried layering, no desirable results. Id like the bassline to really pop out, but boosting the volume just distorts it. I was wondering, maybe i should completely free up the mid freq just so the bass can take it up? And use the high freq for all other elements? Idk im out of ideas really.
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>>124085835
3rd harmonic strong wave as the base of your sound.
Nothing else clogging up that spot. (kick higher and not subheavy if you want the bass to "pop" and carry)
You can distort or add slight noise to it but that's just icing on the cake, same goes for layering.
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>>124086043
Ty bro. Any way to get around this and achieve same shit with already bounced oneshots? Abit lazy to install serum and learn it haha. Would 3osx do the trick? (Fl studio)
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>>124086173
bro...

just low pass a square wave
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>>124085835
Use a sub bass layer with just the important notes and maybe a high bass layer for imaging and texture so 3 typically
Also use a sub headphones/speakers suck for bass it my hell too
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>>124086572
Would be nice but unfortunately i cant be blasting beep boops in my bedroom, i usually just run the track through my car system to see whats what. Usually my bass is just a fucking woooooooob, no texture. I want that warmth, that grittyness, you know? I also probably spam too many bass notes too, and forget to add variations. Bass is just my weqkpoint overall.
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>>124086173
>serum
kek
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>>124086572
I imagine the sub bass layer need to be used sparingly, not to overload the overall track, and let the mid/high layers work the rythm, as the sub creates buildup, and maybe fully send it during a hook/chorus. Right?
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Just learned about Caustic on Android. Hply fuck.
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first drafttt of the dayyy okayyyy

https://vocaroo.com/16e8a5fjNSSy
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>>124087788
Flexing those bass skills
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>>124087839
i just followed the above guide
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>>124087788
makes me think of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m515Edv2-xE
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>>124087908
Do you have, say 15mins? If i post a voc of a melody i created bpm specified, would you lay down some bass on it? Just to give me some ideas, a new perspective maybe.
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>>124088050
shit i wish dude
i'm turning it into a house track now tho

>>124088090
okay unless it involves bass guitar because i don't feel like getting up lol
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>>124088137
https://voca.ro/14bnNFoqIsm4 130bpm, no bass guitar, do whatever you want literally. See what you come up with, thanks big dawg
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>>124088050
Bruh you've never heard of that song outside of this commercial?
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>>124087788
Did you make the drums yourself?
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>>124088262

https://vocaroo.com/19LpUVy2kZKb
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>>124088544
I mean, they're just one shots if that's what you're asking
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>>124088552
Damn damn, thats real good shit, kinda boom bappy. I like it thanks
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>>124056056
Seeing SunVox mentioned motivated me to maybe learn some of this production shit (with a DAW for now).
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>>124088593
Did you synthesize them yourself or are they from a sample pack?
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>>124088824
oh lol

kshmr (no idea which one) and ghost syndicate bushido
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you like?
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>>124089241
It's very good
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>>124089401
yay :)
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>>124089598
kill yourself tranny
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>>124087908
which guide bro?
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>>124089656
this >>124086043
but i'm joking
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>>124088961
Thanks.
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im goin to practice. sampling still is really hard for me. i cant pick the right parts of songs. going to practice songs. trying to learn some fun songs from my childhood/teenage years. if anyone has suggestions for easy pop songs from 2000-2010 lmk. so far ive got 1000 miles and it ends tonight almost down completely. the latter was easy
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>>124089713
sampling is a noob trap. learn to compose and recreate the thing you're trying to sample or effectively recreate it first. you'll make much more progress learning how to actually make music instead of just sampling it and not understanding how it works
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which DAW does /prod/ use?
https://todopo.com/p81
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what should someone who can play a bit of jazz (unrelated to what i want to make, just saying i know all the things you'd need to know) start with in production? i want to make breakbeats, house, hip hop, and whatever else, all sorts of DAW music really.
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>>124089895
pick a goal and make that song
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>>124089895
download a DAW - probably ableton or fl based on your genres
download drum sample packs for the genres you want to make. having the right type of drums will go a long way to making your songs sound like the genres youre trying to make. tip is to search for sample packs that your fav artists use
get some synths. Serum and Diva are my favourites. Serum is probably the best synth to learn synthesis in as its very visual.

when youre starting out it can help to try to recreate songs that you like. e.g. drag the song into your daw and then lay out the drums to match and try your best to replicate the melodic content.
you'll learn a bit about composition. i still do this when theres drum patterns in songs that i really like but can't put get my head around just by listening
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>>124089904
>>124089985
recreate a song, got it. i'm glad you said that because i got lost reading documentation pretty much instantly.

>drag the song into your daw and then lay out the drums to match
that's a great idea, thanks
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A beat a day
Day 4 piano sample edition
https://voca.ro/18emOLizT8Oi
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>>124090241
second half is cool. first half lacks a lot - piano sample isn't enough to carry it.
what'd you do to the hihat that comes in at 1:09? sounds a little weird
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>>124089865
unfortunately the first tutorial i watched was on FL 12 years ago so its FL
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hows this so far
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>>124090241
bad touch
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>>124090524
reckon you should up the BPM on this
drums feel a bit in-congruent with the melodic content - particularly the snare feels out of place
get rid of that vocal sample that plays a couple times
saxophone is a nice touch
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>>124089758
yeah with the way people talk about sampling being an easy way to learn its really just not as easy as you think. there are lots of parts of songs i think sound cool or enjoy but they are not the right sections to be attempting to sample.
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>>124089241
Please tickle me, Elmo.
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>>124090600
exactly, it's an art. for every 1 successful sample you hear flipped there are like 10k attempts that are garbage. it's so bad when they sample chord progs and don't even know what's in or out of key so you inevitably get things just moving in octaves or 4ths

i've been subjected to youtube "sampling" tutorials when trying out daws to learn the tools and sometimes the resources are so bad. they don't even know music theory, they just say to transpose things up and down randomly in semitones and "eventually you get good at making basslines/songs" lmao
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>>124090806
>don't even know what's in or out of key
it's not hard to tell just by ear if you're not a retard
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>>124085835
>im out of ideas really.
Lucky you're online and there are 15 billion videos and pages solving that problem
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>>124090820
tell that to 99% of fl studio users and tutorial makers
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>>124090806
every single part of this song is a sample >>124089241
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>>124090863
not clicking your shitty tech house slop that always uses some off topic lust provoking image
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>>124090887
*cries* its kawaii uk garage
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I was able to learn like 4 different songs today. 1 of them was just the intro to a song but it was really easy. I keep fucking up the back and forth part in 1000 miles. Learned a song from a game i like too. Feels good to be able to pick up easy things somewhat fast. Of course I haven't tried these songs with a metronome yet so I expect to fumble tomorrow when I do.
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i can make garage beats pretty well but i never now what to do or the music :[
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whats the point of having multiple plugin interfaces? just standardise it. manufacturing cross-compatibility issues is such a fucking capitalist meme. it's like having multiple usb connectors and having to buy adapters just for one cable. such horseshit practices based on the idea of a "competitive free market". it's just gatekeep people out of certain interests and activities so the elites can control the media landscape indefinitely; make education a tedious and frustrating experience and no one will want to learn. you get a nullified working class who lack the awareness of their social stratification, and the oppressive institutions which put them there and the elite continue to reap all the benefits.
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>>124091445
Tell it to tumblr gayboy
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>>124091504
found the culture "warrior"
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>>124091445
You'd be the first to complain if they were all standardised
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>>124091527
i literally just complained that they're not standardised. are you fucking dumb?
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>>124091539
>>124091527
actually the funniest woosh i've seen in /prod/ in a fat minute damn
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>>124091561
i don geddit
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>>124092053
he called you a bitchy little negative nancy who always complains about everything no matter what
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>>124092075
not me, i tried to make that clear by typing in a way that she/they wouldn't
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>>124092129
okie soggy it just made me laugh ._.
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>>124092075
>if the opposite was true, then the opposite would be true
you guys aren't too bright
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>>124092222
you're the guy that posts apparat/telafon tel aviv, yeah?
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fresh baked bread
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