W.This thread is for the discussion of music in the Western classical tradition.>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://pastebin.com/NBEp2VFhPrevious thread: >>124258844 (WARNING: Quite dull)
"He" will never leave my mind.
https://youtu.be/Nyw_7FV31qI?si=psgg2-3aSzIIOcWfNothing else matters.
>>124268143i-is that the ring cycle the editor of classicstoday, someone who is a fat gay jew, recommends among all others? sick! can't wait to listen. thanks for sharing.
let's start the day withstart of Schumann: Davidsbündlertänze, Op. 6https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BKixUzL0lY&list=OLAK5uy_n1wEo-PS0Aoa6RsMTW1PUjdk32WhSw57I&index=1https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n1wEo-PS0Aoa6RsMTW1PUjdk32WhSw57II'm finding Schumann's piano music so appealing lately
Looking for a more recent recording of Hammerklavier and other Beethoven late sonatas and picked the first one I saw with high ratings on the front page of Amazon -- any thoughts on this pianist?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCNMNM4iOM4&list=OLAK5uy_mPJ8NSFHLxnLjEymx2FHMjVmOExKFFygk&index=1
where do I start with Wagner
>>124268258https://files.catbox.moe/nqdbu6.mp3
>>124268201>I'm finding Schumann's piano music so appealing latelyI'm trying to make peace with his piano and symphonic pieces. They're so different...but both good. Same with Liszt.
https://youtu.be/vX7OwFUItWc>The last nine sonatas written in the Viennese decade are created by the composer with multiple purposes. A lot of times for its own concert use, but also for educational purposes and very often for a publication, therefore keeping in mind the needs of the buyers, who most of times were belonging to that class of "amateur"musicians, aristocratic or upper middle class instrumentalists, who were the connective network of the Viennese high society. >One could debate till eternity how difficult Mozart's keyboard sonatas were perceived in his own days, but in today's performance practice they often still challenge the virtuoso of today, which might surprise us, over two centuries after their creation. This fact definitely makes me question some aspects of the modern way of performing these pieces. How is it possible indeed, that with the most advanced technical level ever reached in the history from musicians of today, we still get students, teachers in conservatories and concert pianists, to struggle on one of these sonatas for months if not years?>This suggests to me, that maybe in our modern way playing, something does not match with the way people back in the 18th century performed these works. >The only answer I can suggest is again another question: perhaps too fast tempi?>And what does it happen when we face the metronome numbers given in the 19th century by the most important connoisseurs of that tradition such Czerny and Moscheles? There we find sometimes tempi that are even faster than today's standard and some of them are unplayble even for the most technically accomplished pianist.The hero, the saviour of Classical music, the hyperborean jew obliterator, the genius, Wim WintersWagner recordings when
>>124268446I would have thought historical pitch makes a huge difference too.
I only listen to jewish performers. Everything else is subpar by comparison.
>>124268446I mean I don't know any better but that seems like a fair argument to me. While not wholly convincing on its own, it's given me some pause for thought.
>>124268489>Listening to performersRead the sheet music and simulate the piece in your head.>B-but I can't do thatthen leave this general, pleb
Favorite jewish performers?
>>124268523Your mom
>>124268489I appreciate and am a little amused how Jewish conductors and musicians have no qualms doing one of Mozart's or Bach's masses. And doing them well too. They're the Harold Blooms of the music world. That is, lovers of Western tradition...not iconoclasts.
>>124268240>12 minutes for the first movementYeah, no.>>124268258Tristan is his most accessible opera.>>124268501It's not a fair argument at all if you consider for even a second the recordings that were left by prominent 19th century performers that lived into the 20th. Or all the timings that we have for concerts during the Mozart/Beethoven era which don't match up with Winters' theory.
>>124268501some random guy on youtube going “it’s too hard for me to play so it must be too hard for everyone else to play too!” is giving you pause for thought? really?
>>124268584You are just mad that Winters isn't jewish and is CHALLENGING your mad gangster communist academic ideas of what music should be. Winters is the hero in the dark times of music, shining a lonely light hoping those smart enough will see the truths he speaks. If it wasn't for his AUTHENTIC performances we'd never hear these beautiful works anymore and would only ever hear jewish corruptions of these classic greats.W.https://youtu.be/2Cl9j0-WPns
>>124268240if you really must have a recent recording of the beethoven sonatas, go for igor levit or something, not whatever this fantasy elf looking lady is.
>>124268611I have no problem with Jews unless his name is Glenn Gould. You're acting like they're all like him.
>>124268611Kek
>>124268621Wait, he's not Jewish. I'm stumped.
>>124268584>It's not a fair argument at all if you consider for even a second the recordings that were left by prominent 19th century performers that lived into the 20th. Or all the timings that we have for concerts during the Mozart/Beethoven era which don't match up with Winters' theory.Hmm that's hard to dispute. I wonder what his counter to that last point is.
>>124268614Not very progressive of you, anon.
>>124268584>>12 minutes for the first movement>Yeah, no.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ig_WKpZW4Y&list=OLAK5uy_nw7N6BAkN4FH8YXmotmx040VoLsCXXp5c&index=96better?
>>124268648levit being a jew and a huge libtard wasn’t progressive enough?>>124268659still too slow
>>124268621Gould is a white man and the FIRST in the line of authentic recreators of classical music, the jew history was a disguise so he could seep into the community of academics and bring back the hypnotic genius of the white men>"When people ask me if I'm Jewish, I always tell them that I was Jewish during the war."He walked so Wim could run, he was the initial hero. Wim is even more important, it's due to his wonderful and iconic renditions that musical truth is achieved, he was given the knowledge of WBM and utilized it perfectly.Listen to this recordinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdb6ViEMTDMThe moon shines down on a lonely intellectual, knowing that despite being right he'll be known as a fool. A solitary soul reaching out to those that see, while being ridiculed by the blind. That is what the piece is about, and this is EXACTLY what Wim expierences. Wim is the only person in HISTORY to be able to perform this piece and he did it with maximum beauty.>>124268622You think I am doing this in jest? You are a fool. Wim reached musical perfection, that is nothing to laugh at. He is the man that de-corrupted classical tradition. He completed the last brick that Gould and the other hyperboreans built. Now it has come to fruition, the perfect set of recordings of these grand masters. We are gifted perfection and we don't even appreciate it due to how used we got to the CORRUPTION jews did to our western music. It is truly depressing, truly depressingW.
>>124268670>levit being a jew and a huge libtard wasn’t progressive enough?He'd have to be Palestinian for a man, sorry.
Gould was a pill-popping autistic retard.
>>124268683>authentic recreators of classical musicUgh. Should've went to Jazz if he wanted that so much.I'm not saying he's a stupid or necessarily a hack. Just an asshole.
>>124268536so true sister upvoted for posterity
>>124268638We dont actually KNOW how fast these recordings were. The quality was so low and we have to adjust speed to know it. We can't ever KNOW how fast they truly were. But we DO. Because of their metronome markings. They don't lie, they tell absolute truths, and whole beat gives sense to them. WBM is the Rosetta Stone of music. WE now KNOW the true tempi.>>124268712Jewish LIES, he never took a single drug in his life. As I type he speaks to me and tells me these truths. The jews will never take away his de-corruption of the GREAT masters. Once you listen to him enough he finally unlocks the true beauty in your mind.>>124268718Jazz is jewish negro music, Wim and Gould want their ancestors' music FAITHFULLY recreated. Jazz is a even bigger corruption and tries to uglify music even more than serialism did. Wim would NEVER perform jazz because he knows the evil nature.W.
>>124268754>he never took a single drug in his life.Lmao>His ingestion of drugs increased over the years, especially after 1980; between January and September 1982, he was prescribed more than two thousand pills, including benzodiazepines, which have a high risk of dependency when taken continuously for a long time. It is very likely that he became addicted to some drugs, especially diazepam.>In such situations, when feeling some kind of physical or psychological discomfort, he tended toward pharmacological solutions, especially abusing tranquilizers; Cornelia Foss, as she noted in interviews, observed him taking up to ten Valium tablets a day.
>>124268750I stand for Western tradition and hate revolutionaries, but I'm the "sister" now. How did this happen?
>>124268523>keyboardyudina, levhinne, rosenthal, schnabel, steuermann, friedman, fischer, feinberg, haskil, cherkassky, ginzburg, serkin, moiseiwitch, pressler>stringshuberman, szeryng, kolisch, hirschhorn,>batonklemperer, walter, horenstein, leibowitz, markevitch, gielen, kletzki, ancerl, zemlinsky>voiceschorr, kipnis
>>124268773maybe it's time to go back? has anyone ever told you that—to go back?
>>124268765Here's the full list btwhttps://youtu.be/7eBotiHABdo?si=CrdXwfvbTpHKJ-gS
>>124268803>horensteinLOL
>>124268805Maybe it's time you understand this is a dead thread on a dead board. Not anywhere that matters enough to tell people to "go back". I barely come here. Aim for a little higher than being king of a mound of shit.
>>124268867/mu/ is dead these days?
>>124268875buddy this isn't /mu/
a good morning for Schumann's Symphony no. 1 'Spring'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je7oJ0IKZEg&list=OLAK5uy_mYFL7dnQoVrM4xTpqGjSkW4FnDYU_i_x8&index=1
>>124268959>Kapellmeister syndrome
>>124268908where are we then?
>>124269461a necessity in schumann’s music.
>>124269614nahhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxEqGVejj48
>>124269771sounds dull and unclear, i blame schumann
i just made more toothpaste feeling pretty good with myself brushed my teeth washed my face forgot how to punctuate and to end sentences all the while refilling up on water doing a few pushups and listening to pic rel https://files.catbox.moe/3spo2v.mp3
Composers ranked:>1. Chopin>2. Rachmaninoff>3. Bach>4. Beethoven>5. Brahms>6. Liszt>7. Ravel>8. Tchaikovsky>9. Scriabin>10. Mozart>11. Schubert>12. Mendelssohn>13. Debussy>14. Haydn>15. Prokofiev>16. Schumann>17. Handel>18. Wagner>19. Messiaen>20. SchoenbergBased and very accurate. The generation has spoken. This is the future. (Composers that weren't included go somwehre inbetween those)
>>124270419(btw these were the results of livesteam poll - comparing each composer to every other)
>>124270419The only good thing about that ranking is the absence of Mahler
>>124270419so i was right to say that chopin and rachmaninoff are more popular than bach and mozart among zoomers. where’s that illiterate european retard who was seething about the idea that his favorite music is mainstream when you need him?
>>124269609/classical/
>>124270419>>124270434Holy based. Zoomers mog.
124270419124270434124270599all me btw
>>124270598which is a thread in...
There exists only two kinds of humans, one that enjoys and other that whines.https://youtu.be/I9-_tVSrCqs?si=62ps-ELYqYf30Tra
>>124270692Enjoys Chopin, yes.
https://youtu.be/uG6wiQnp6pQ?si=8-g1HAlbJ1uYL0GvI can feel the ghost of Brahms in those rhythms, can you?
>>124270584>european retardWait, am I European now? I thought I was indian lmfao. Popularity clearly isn't at the play here brown muttsister.
>>124270759>popularity isn’t at play with a literal popular voteholy shit, you really are fucking indian, my bad for mistaking your retarded ass for a europoor.
>>124270771>popular voteSince when is some youtube poll a "statistic"? Meanwhile I showed you list of performances where there was more Beethoven and Mozart concerts than anything else combined, brown sister.
>>124270814>Since when is some youtube poll a "statistic"?since you posted it and referred to it as “very accurate”, you fucking moron. either the poll is legitimate as a reflection of popular opinion or it’s not legitimate and you’re a brainless ape for posting it (you are regardless)>Meanwhile I showed you list indian excellence everybody, point and laugh.
>>124270837>either the poll is legitimate as a reflection of popular opinion or it’s not legitimate and you’re a brainless ape for posting itOr maybe it was worth seeing you seethe KEK.>indian excellence everybodyMutt cope kek.
>>124270879why would i be mad that i was right about popular opinion? if anything i’ve been vindicated. >Mutt cope kek.i don’t think you’re in any position to complain about anyone else when you shit in the street buddy.
>>124270759>lmfaoever since adopting this acronym from sister you have been frequently using it. may i suggest some alternative acronyms? lol is the most widespread and commonly used way of expressing laughter on the internet, with lmao close behind. the latter stands for laughing my ass off. it's a bit vulgar considering, but it's better off than spurting off the f-u-c-k word as many times as you have.
>>124270926o_o
>>124270897>why would i be madYou're always mad. What's hilarious is that you're seething about some composers and conductors, you have no life.>when you shit in the street buddy.Except I'm not even indian whereas your mutt genes might have pajeetery in it lmfao.
>>124270942i don’t know how to tell you this, but screaming “YOU’RE MAD YOU’RE MAD” is not the right way to upset someone, you just look like a lunatic; not that you wouldn’t otherwise. >Except I'm not even indian dude, you can’t go 5 sentences without fucking up some basic as grammar, i’d sooner believe that the tech support guy really is named robert and not kumar.
>>124270965>some basic as grammarlol
>>124270965You're already mad, sis.>without fucking up some basic as grammarThank god I'm not a*nglomutt, then.>>124270926Based autist
>>124270942who instructed you to express laughter on the internets so much? are you phone posting?
>>124270970you still haven’t told me why i’d be mad at being right though. seems very contradictory to me. >Thank god I'm not a*nglomutt, then.yeah, because you’re indian. trust me, we know.
>>124270993You're always mad and wrong brown sis.>>124270975>who instructed youÓðinn
>>124271010you still haven’t told me what i’m supposed to be mad about, curryjeet.
>>124271023You're always mad and wrong brown sis.
>>124271010so you are phone posting
>>124271052You're always mad and wrong brown sis. I provided more than 3 links previously proving otherwise.
>>124271071you still haven’t told me what i’m supposed to be mad about, curryjeet. and i’m right about rach and chopin being more popular than bach and mozart as evidenced by your own post; an incomplete list of orchestral performances biased towards small regional orchestras does not disprove your own poll which targets the exact demographic i was talking about from the start.
>>124271088You're always mad and wrong brown sis, even now.>>124271061Sometimes, how is that relevant here?
>>124271102you still haven’t told me what i’m supposed to be mad about, curryjeet. and i’m right about rach and chopin being more popular than bach and mozart as evidenced by your own post.
>>124271118You're always mad and wrong brown sis, even now.
>>124271170You're always mad and wrong brown sis, even now.
>>124271187you still haven’t told me what i’m supposed to be mad about, curryjeet. and i’m right about rach and chopin being more popular than bach and mozart as evidenced by your own post.
>>124271197Evidently you're always seething and wrong brown sis, even now.
>>124271102i understand that you're having a difficult time following along, so let me explain. the context to my question about phone posting was specific to your incessant use of lmfao, and, more generally, expressing laughter through other acronyms. it goes to follow—this is where we have to use brain—that i believe phone posting encourages the use of such expressions of laughter. i am more assured now than ever after having received your confession. i put to you that you not only phone post but you also use discord and potentially other instant messaging softwares.
>>124271226You're the craziest guy I've seen on 4chan in years.
You're all fucking insane.
>>124271226>that i believe phone posting encourages the use of such expressions of laughter.Utter nonsense. And no, I don't use trannycord. How about post some Karajan and Rach, gigaautist?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX198THgIu8>>124271229Constantly mad and wrong brown sis.
>>124271242says the pagan larper im beginning to not like you
>>124271263you still haven’t told me what i’m supposed to be mad about, curryjeet. and i’m right about rach and chopin being more popular than bach and mozart, as evidenced by your own post.
regarding Bruckner's 9th:>Mehta's versio belongs with the pantheon of 5-star interpretations, including Furtwangler, Wand Lubeck 1988, Abbado Lucerne, Celibidache, Giulini VPO, Barenboim BPO, Karajan 1976, Skrowaczewski Minnesota, and Dohnanyi Cleveland. Listeners who like this symphony to be dark, scary, loud and frightening make me nervous about recent trends in musical taste and need not waste their time here.Whose recordings are they referring to with that last sentence? People like Rattle and Thielemann? I haven't heard theirs so I'm not sure but I don't think I've heard any like that.
>>124271269>>124271404It's really way too obvious that you do.Other anons don't really tend to have insomnia-induced delusions, Karajan buckbroken mad plebbitsis.
>>124271332Also I'm embarrassed I didn't know there were two Karajan Bruckner 9s, I've always listened to the stand-alone 1966 one and assumed it was the same one on the boxset, which turns out to be the 1976 one the reviewer there is praising. Guess I know which one I'm listening to today!
>>124271421>he’s abandoning this train of spam to continue the other train of spam that he lostLMFAOOOOOO>>124271440there are actually 3, he has a live one with vienna from the 70s. don’t go in expecting it to be as good as his 80s vienna bruckner recordings, because it’s not.
>>124271457So true brown sister. I congratulate you for the small victory.
>>124271457Ooo really? I was always kinda baffled that he only recorded 7 and 8 with the VPO and not the 9th, so that makes sense. Good to know.
>This is an exciting performance of Berg's Violin Concerto. With so much tonal garbage, from radio pop to classical Mozart floating around for centuries, it is exciting to see a tone row written with genius stamped on it, and then written into an exciting 4 movement sonata form. It never stops going around my head. This performance is so lyrical that it is hard to believe anyone would believe that atonal and 12 tone music is cold. It is much more exciting than Beethoven or Tori Amos at their highest could be!:o
>>124271475sometimes you just have to know when to quit. the best time for that was before you decided to immigrate from /pol/ to /classical/, but the second best time for that is now. >>124271481i’m not baffled by it, his VPO 7th was literally his last recording. had he lived til, say, 2000, i wouldn’t be surprised if he remade his entire bruckner cycle and probably his entire beethoven and brahms cycles with vienna for good measure. the live recording of his vienna 9th was just a matter of happenstance, it was issued posthumously along a large chunk of other live recordings of the VPO with famous conductors (mostly in mono) for an anniversary of theirs. >>124271534lol what performance is this about?
>>124271545>lol what performance is this about?
>>124271559man you have no idea how many naxos recordings i’ve been shilled on only to find them totally mediocre. and i swear something is wrong with whatever recording equipment they use in every recording because shit sounds totally lifeless.
>>124271545So true brown sister. I don't post on /pol/.
>>124271578why, country flags give you away?
>>124271565It's harder to find string orchestra versions of Berg's Lyric Suite than I thought so was looking at that one. But yeah I agree -- having grown more picky over time, I rarely try random Naxos recordings from performers I've never heard of anymore unless it's literally the only option, which, as I'm sure you're aware, it's often the case.
/mu/tant here. which recordings of richard strauss do you guys prefer? i've seen a lot of praise for the orchestral works compilation conducted by rudolf kempe but i wanted to know if you guys have other favorite strauss recordings
so fucking fed up with it just rename this to /wagnergeneral/ already
>>124271610Karajan is THE Strauss conductor
>>124271610Kempe for vibrancy (which makes a huge difference for Strauss' music) and musicality, and Karajan for profundity and sublimity. Trying any thing else is only to be done for fun and variety's sake after those two, as they're really heads-and-shoulders above the rest.
>>124271637>>124271650thanks :) gonna check out the karajan recordings now
>>124271599So true brown sister, so true. /pol/ is more suited for incels such as yourself nowdays. I post about what I like, which is music.
>>124271659Enjoy!
>>124271608karajan’s done the orchestral version of the lyric suite, but i’ve never liked it to begin with because it’s literally missing half the piece. >unless it's literally the only option, which, as I'm sure you're aware, it's often the case.mostly with super obscure chamber and orchestral repertoire, yeah. but if it’s something like mahler 8 and fucking hurwitz is telling me antoni shit and the literally who orchestra is the best recording of it around, i have a hard time believing that (and i wish i didn’t, because that recording is seriously bland).>>124271610kempe is great. so are szell, reiner, and karajan. >>124271650szell literally subbed for strauss himself in a recording strauss made of his own music, so i don’t think he should be discounted so readily. >>124271664you’ve been posting a lot about me lately bro, i don’t know how to tell you this but i’m not into men. maybe try >>>/lgbt/ or >>>/hm/ for that or something.
>>124271610Elektra, Daphne & Capriccio: Karl Böhm Ariadne: Della Casa/EredeRosenkavalier: Erich KleiberZarathustra: Karajan (1974)Heldenleben: Karajan (digital)Elektra & Salome excerpts: Inge Bork/Reiner
>>124271681>you’ve been posting a lot about me lately bro,Apparently so, brown sis. When you kys or just simply stop being an ass we will all enjoy the thread.
wagner sissies, our response?
>>124271704oh yeah, i forgot to mention karl bohm for the operas, i think he did nearly all of them. i don’t know why bohm was so good in romantic music and so turgid in classical stuff. >>124271709i think you need to come clean to yourself about your homosexual desires and accept the fact that i’m just not into you that way.
>>124271681>Strauss instantly recognized Szell's talent and was particularly impressed with how well the teenager conducted Strauss's music. Strauss once said that he could die a happy man knowing that there was someone who performed his music so perfectly. In fact, Szell ended up conducting part of the world premiere recording of Don Juan for Strauss. The composer had arranged for Szell to rehearse the orchestra for him, but having overslept, showed up an hour late to the recording session. Since the recording session was already paid for, and only Szell was there, Szell conducted the first half of the recording (since no more than four minutes of music could fit onto one side of a 78, the music was broken up into four sections). Strauss arrived as Szell was finishing conducting the second part; he exclaimed that what he heard was so good that it could go out under his own name. Strauss went on to record the last two parts, leaving the Szell-conducted half as part of the full world premiere recording of Don Juan.i think the only reason no one talks about szell’s strauss is because it’s virtually impossible to get ahold of, but it’s very legitimate stuff. it lines up more closely with strauss’ own conducting style than anyone else.
>>124271725I think you need to stop being so buckbroken 24/7 brown sis.
pure schizophrenia
>>124271756>his response to accusations of homosexuality is to bring up… gay african anal rapeman, talk about doing a number on yourself.
>>124271771>>his responseI don't bother reading your posts every time brown sis.
So this is really how every thread for the rest of November is gonna be like, huh
>>124271782yeah, you toooootally didn’t accidentally skim through the 2 sentences in my post and realized the blunder you made lol. i believe you. >>124271796it seems so, i wish i could let him down more gently but he’s just not having it. he just needs time to get over it and get back on grindr i think.
>>124271796I don't see how november would be any different to prior months in that respect
>>124271812Thanks schizophrenic brown sis.>>124271796Apparently so, shame that decent posters might even leave.
>>124271822the sooner you come to terms with your repressed male lust, the better. it’s the only way for you to move forward.
>>124271839Thanks buckbroken projector brown sis.
>>124271882you seem a little fixated on having gay anal sex with black men. wanna tell us about it?
>>124271796https://youtu.be/2o0_yPpmsg4?si=Pyfwok8CzqWFNyiHWhat has this general become? What are we doing? We need SDF. BRING HIM BACK NOW!
having a glass of bourbon neat, listening to wagner, and watching these brown sissies go at it
What's a good opener for Bruckner's 7th? Honeck's recording of the 7th uses this Bates Resurrexit piece and it works pretty well, but I'm curious as to other suggestions.https://youtube.com/watch?v=hqLiOs-2JHA
>>124271929Keep that to yourself buckbroken projector brown sis
>>124271968Why do you need an opener if you're not planning a concert?
>>124271968is it just me or is the new music stuff that honeck does not the best? haven’t heard one that i’ve liked so far. >>124271972well you’re the one bringing up gay anal sex with black men again, so maybe you should be keeping it to yourself.
>>124271993I like listening to music this way, it's both fun and enhances the experience in the same way pairing the right wine with your dinner does. Plus, can't go back-to-back on two symphonies, need something to separate!>>124272000I think the three Bruckner releases (4, 7, 9) are all quite good, each have definitely been added to my list of occasional go-to's for each work, though not on the highest tier of course. As for the Beethoven and Brahms, they sound nice and definitely offer fresh takes on those works, and I would absolutely recommend them for anyone looking for a very recent recording of eaach but I doubt I'll be revisiting them myself.
Fartwangler is too hissy but goodhttps://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lP8nia3mAfnoXKg9ZLRoIwUweYC5nzMJg>>124272000You are evidently the buckbroken brown sis so.
>>124272055i think you misunderstood. by new music stuff i meant the miscellaneous modern commissioned works that he typically pairs with his recordings of standard repertoire, like the macmillan thing he paired with brahms 4. >>124272063i’m sorry dude, i’m not interested in having gay anal sex with you. i don’t know how to put it any other way, you just need to come to terms with it.
>>124272085Evidently buckbroken brownsis.
>>124272093i think i’ve made it very clear that i’m not interested in engaging in homosexual anal intercourse with you, garbagejeet.
>>124272085Oh sorry, on rereading I should've got that, read it as 'new recordings.' On his release of Ein Heldenleben, there was a premier of some clarinet concerto or other that was quite nice, and the Bates one I posted above is nice for a 11 minute intro/interlude type piece. The rest have been forgettable to worth skipping, yeah.
>>124272085>>124272123This one:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG08d4_e-n4&list=OLAK5uy_kgO23MY-YLmUfuJ_VB29IGzHZ7Y-mVfcE&index=2Not a masterpiece, of course, but I thought it was a nice listen and a good pairing.
>>124272118Then you should consider stop engaging in scat fetish right here on /classical/ and shitting up the general.
>>124272123yeah, none of them are earpiercingly awful (which is the norm for new music, if you weren’t aware), but they generally seem to be bland quasi/post-tonal things that don’t really have anything to say. i get that conductors always try to advocate for new music, but it’s really just a sign of the general lack of inspiration or maybe even talent among the current (and probably the previous few ones too) generation of composers. >>124272149oh, i wasn’t even aware of that one, i was mostly thinking of his RR releases. i’ve been told his exton recordings are way less weird sounding which would not surprise me.>>124272156no, i don’t want to have poop sex with you, i’m just not into that. i think you need to find someone else who’s into gay poop sex like you are.
>>124268584>Tristan is his most accessible opera.Really? I remember finding it very hard to get into for a long time. Nothing really happens, and the importance of it went over my head. Die Walkure or Tannhauser seem much more accessible.
>>124272190Disgusting scat fetishist brown sis.
>>124272255 150 years ago the unresolved dominant 7th at the beginning of tristan was enough to make listeners faint, and meanwhile we have become so utterly divorced from common practice tonality that it just flies right over our heads. >>124272261i thought i made it clear that i wasn’t interested in having poop sex with you or anyone else. i’m not interested in poopy men’s buttholes like you are.
>>124272190Well, I'll take your word for it since you're actually in that world so I'm sure you've heard tons and tons of contemporary classical. All I know from the perspective I do have knowledge on is there are still great novels being written, so why is there is absolute dearth in music? Maybe everyone with talent who would have been the great composer of these times are working in Pop/Rock (in the broad sense of those terms) instead, but you tell me.
>>124272304>there are still great novels being written,?
>>124272304>why is there is absolute dearth in music?it bears reminding that there are still massive swathes of the contemporary composition world still chasing the emancipation of the dissonance, including one or two legitimate geniuses that i know in person. why they have dedicated their lives in pursuit of the obviously impossible in spite of their incomparable understanding of music is beyond me; it’s possible that it’s simply a result of their upbringing (which i believe is the case for one whose father was friends with xenakis)
>>124272304>>124272378also, the sort of skillset and mindset required to become a popular musician is totally different from that of any classical musician or composer. a “good” (by popular music standards) popular musician today is more comparable to a great folk musician a century ago than to any composer.
>>124272316Yes. Go on /lit/ and ask. As a personal anecdote, even the last time I went downtown to Powell's Book, I flipped through some of the 'Staff Picks' near the front while waiting and even a good amount of that was enjoyable, not to mention in literary magazines for the shorter, more amateur stuff and the like.>>124272378Makes sense, a couple months ago I went down a rabbit-hole of contemporary classical on Wikipedia and ended up on the pages of some annual awards and stuff like that, and listened to some of the winner compositions, and almost all of it was like that lol. Also, if not that or the 'bland quasi/post-tonal stuff,' what's left? I hope to God none of that conceptual stuff.
>>124272303Quite disgusting scat fetishist brown sis.>>124272304>so why is there is absolute dearth in music?There wasn't until the late 20th century. Read about reverse flynn effect. The average IQ appears to be increasing, but is actually decreasing(g factor is decreasing to be specific). The result is much fewer geniuses both in music/art and science, because at the higher end of gaussian curve the gap is narrow and even a slight shift can change the course of economics and average salary in a country. The IQ peaked in mid 20th century, and so did music. Praise Rachmaninoff for his genius melodicism.
>>124272454I've been on /lit/ plenty but every book I've read or tried to read from the past thirty or forty years has been almost painfully disappointing. Literature is in as bad a doldrums as music.
>>124272454contemporary composition competitions are a real hoot, every single finalist sounds like the same screechy beep boop twiddly widdly shit as the previous set of finalists. heaven knows how the judges sort the medalists. >I hope to God none of that conceptual stuff.all the conceptual shit is in the same vein as screechy skiddledorp contemporary music and faceless post-tonal music, just with extra pretense. >>124272509you’ll understand one day that when someone says they’re not interested in having poopy butthole sex with you, they mean it. until then, you’ll just have to live with your future sex offender status looming over you.
>>124272519I really don't wanna get in-depth about it here, but you don't like Vollman, Bolano, or Saunders? Or to name one I read recently, check out The Sympathizer by Viet Thanh Nguyen.
>>124272553Where do you think the future of new classical lies?
>>124272509Well, it's all over then. I will be the last great English writer :^)
>>124272597i’m not a fortune teller, but i don’t know how sustainable the current cottage industry dedicated to churning out unlistenable new music that no one listens to is. i have a feeling it’ll collapse in on itself eventually.
>>124272648It's not all over, but there was a peak of civilization in history, and we might never achieve the things Scriabin and Prokofiev did.>>124272553Disgusting brown scat fetishist post.
>>124272744not interested in gay poop sex with you sorry
For me, it's the Borodin Quartethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPqJb90c5Oc&list=OLAK5uy_mSQSKM5QZl24YqNXebhdNOjAmTVkAFz1M&index=68
>>124268240I know most people here are of the 'Gotta go fast!' variety in terms of their preferences, but finally listening to this and I gotta say it's wonderful. Sensitive, stirring, gorgeous playing. Here's the first movement of No. 32, op. 111:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frpa0t-4TKc&list=OLAK5uy_mPJ8NSFHLxnLjEymx2FHMjVmOExKFFygk&index=5
>>124272850very stupid handling of the slurred staccato markings, i don’t see what’s so “sensitive” or “stirring” about it when it’s taken straight for the most part.
>>124272905I was mostly referring to the Hammerklavier posted above, but didn't wanna post it again. All I know is it's one of the most enjoyable performances of Op. 106 I've heard lately, though it's probably my least listened to piece of Beethoven's solo piano music. Those things go hand-in-hand, of course; maybe this'll be my gateway to finally falling in love with it.
>>124272799Yes I would also prefer not to deal with your scat fetishist posts.
>>124272944i think you should just listen to schnabel’s hammerklavier or something instead of messing around with some bitch who can’t even play slurred staccato markings right. >>124272974still not interested in gay poop sex with you sorry
>>124273003Hey, be respectful, I read she passed away at 45.
>>124268082I like the Goldberg but I’m less sure about the variations
>>124273022you’d think she’d have figured out the basics of articulation and phrasing on the piano before then, but apparently not.
Mystery Sonata????https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P7qh3NHEs60&list=PLvszsPl-ZIE6zfwDQ5RafOT3ObUOQ6CA_&index=8&pp=iAQB8AUB
>>124268512Listening to music is for plebs only
>>124268446On a fortepiano https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zoeNV2Bl20k&pp=ygUpc29uYXRhIGluIGMgbWFqb3IgbW96YXJ0IGszMzAgaGFycHNpY2hvcmQ%3D
>>124268501>>124268584Music today is actually performed slower than it was in the 18th and early 19th century.
>>124273349>18th and early 19th century.*19th and 20th I mean
>>124268908This is /mu/
>>124270419You don’t think Chpin is a little overrated? Can’t really speak for Rach
>>124273440don’t ask him too much about what he thinks or he’ll ask to have gay poopy buttsex with you
>>124270584So some random ass completely unsourced livestream poll that probably had 100 people in it is evidence enough for you?
>>124273477it was certainly enough for the guy who posted it, who is also the same guy who posted those retarded ass pdf links in the first place.
Do you think the sister poster actually is the most autistic person on 4chan?
>>124273559not when the /vp/ schizos exist, but they're closeI mean just imagine someone that spams just as frequently and autistically as the sisterposter, but instead of it being about somethint artistically relevant for an adult like classical music... it's daily sperging out about pokémon.
>>124271613No one’s talking about Wagner though
>>124271796Yup and the mods don’t give a single fuck . They’ll ban you in minutes for saying the “n” word though
>>124273559I used to browse /jp/. No.
>>124273706someone posted a stealth pedo thread on /tv/ a few days ago and I called them pedos then got banned for "off-topic" while the thread stayed up lmao
>>124271943What’s SDF?
>>124273727Super Debussy Fag he was a massive fan of Debussynah I'm joking that was just a little humor is all I don't know what it means either
now playingstart of Franck: Piano Quintet in F Minor, CFF 121https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm8-f7d-3ak&list=OLAK5uy_m_bdyp6gFDnQKpkEwHVtpmTauGVOZEHMc&index=1https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m_bdyp6gFDnQKpkEwHVtpmTauGVOZEHMcGonna be a chamber music night, with Dvorak's String and Piano Quintets to follow.
>>124273787An album cover doesn't get more French than that.
>>124273709They’ve got to be top 10
Chopinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tS6C_oL0cg
Redditors should be killed.
>>124273727Schoenberg Defense Force, a tripfag of the prehistoric /classical/ era
>>124268082I really want to get into Wagner but I just can't get past how fucking nasty he was
>>124274038Reading Judaism on Music I can't help but think of Jonah Hill.
>>124270419Meh I'm more of a Russian 5, Chabrier, and Grieg guy. I never got the early romantic period besides a Liszt, Schumann, and Wagner
>>124268082For me it's Wagner
>>124273898everything said in your screenshot was perfectly reasonable
>>124274402ew
When people say John Adams do they mean John Coolidge Adams(77 year old American Minimalist composer) or John Luther Adams(70 year old American Minimalist composer)?
>he’s posting it again
>>124265426Sounds to me like it was the right one.
>Wagner is the best and noblest person. . . . Someday the world will see that he was just as great of a person as he was an artist, as those close to him already know. And his struggle against “Judaism in Music” has the noblest motives.- Hermann Levi in a letter to his Rabbi father
>>124274501one of the good ones
>>124265255>>124265322>>124265365Damn sisterposter really got called out here
Takashi Yoshimatsu - Cyberbird Concertohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp9zhpuRlUw&ab_channel=JSaxofone
>>124274511*self hating ones. And putting aside the antisemitism, Wagner sounded like a pretty poor person. LIszt on the other hand seemed like a really good guy
>>124273898Have they ever stopped to consider why all of these great Europeans disliked Jews? Maybe something to with Jews behaviour?
just listened to brucker's wagner by bohm with vienna
>>124274548>Wagner sounded like a pretty poor person.People say this but when pushed to give an example it's always just crap like "he ran away from creditors, and, uhm, he yelled at someone once". Like who gives a shit.
>>124274402when are we going to stop hating entire races? I used to be an edgy retard just like you but dont you find it sad sometimes?
>>124274588>when are we going to stop hating entire raceswhen all but mine are dead I'll stop
>>124274624how does it feel to be on the same level of retardation as an animal?
>>124274581From the sounds of it those creditors were friends he ripped off so he could live a life of luxury
>>124274631I don't know, I'm not a J*w.
>>124274635Creditors are professional lenders, not people you personally know. IIRC Wagner's friends patronised him, but never expected to be payed back like a loan.
>>124274575What'd you think? I like my 3rd and 4th a bit softer and with a bit more warmth myself, but I still liked his.
Wagner sucks cock.
>>124274813I will kill you.
speaking of Bohm, now playingstart of Brahms: Symphony No. 2 in D Major, Op. 73https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WzzcDiqD50&list=OLAK5uy_ml3YGjyDAxNcjYF4Xorfah5hWoXi8uxn0&index=6https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ml3YGjyDAxNcjYF4Xorfah5hWoXi8uxn0
>>124274515not really. in the examples you provided anon is attempting to use the power of paladins, righteous zeal, in order to change sister, but what he doesn't understand, and it seems to be a common occurrence, this not understanding, is that imposing behavior change requires much more capacity than he has in store. my experience through analyzing his responses, or the lack thereof, have led me to believe that he isn't capable of doing the thing he suggests is his mission. specifically, to make sister into a "cooler person" >>124264849 which is problematic by itself because anon is projecting an idealized characteristic onto sister and it is admittedly rather vague. moreover, forcing attitudes, and thus behaviors, is antithetical to board culture.
Costellohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsoXuiyl8Fc&list=OLAK5uy_lrB95u2XBoN9_cfX6Rqp30uYVFxikQ1w4
>>124274832Are you on adderall all the time?
>>124274844ive been sober for 10 years
>>124274852Congrats on the 10 years. Hopefully I'll be there someday, although methadone doesn't really count as truly sober I guess.
>>124268082Atonality doesn't and cannot exist.
>tfw too stupid and uneducated in music to understand and enjoy Variations form
Takashi Yoshimatsu - Memo Flora Concertohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAymD_BL_qI&ab_channel=JSaxofone
>>124264139I might check this out tonight, thanks for the rec
>>124274884face?
>>124274927ok don't bully
Bachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zhEJekr2dI
>>124274832Anon what is all this nonsense? Take your meds
>>124274515yeah i was totally owned by word salad fr fr no cap>>124274609stop ban evading, pedophile kraut>>124274832pills time>>124274884variation form is simultaneously the easiest and most nuanced form to understand.
>>124274998>t. not a paladin, no power of zeal
>>124275017Yeah he totally had your number and you had no comeback. You're still trying to act like you weren't shook
>>124275039woaaaah shook by word salad LMFAOOO so scary
>>124275020What's a Paladin?
>>124275049Kek see what I mean, you're desperately trying to pretend it was a word salad. It was clear as day and you know that too
>>124275054Look it up. I was just making a joke based on the first line of schizo-anon's post.
>>124275069I was also making a joke
>>124274038Largely a misinterpretation and misrepresentation. He was trying to describe jewish influence on German music, nothing more. His private letters reveal an overwhelmingly pro-jewish attitude. He'd 100% have been a zionist.
>>124275076Oh -- clearly I'm not a paladin either.
>>124275067yeah sorry dude it was word salad
>>124275077Really?>>124275084To be fair it probably wasn't that clear and it was maybe a little obscure
Sister poster shivering and shaking in the corner
>>124275017>variation form is simultaneously the easiest and most nuanced form to understand.I just feel like if I can't identify what the variation is and how it was done in any given one, I'm missing out on a fundamental part of it. Not to mention half the time I struggle to even hear the similarities with the main theme. I swear if they weren't called Variations in the title I probably wouldn't even know most of the time, or I'd think only some of them were. It's like they must give you a program outlining and annotating all of the variations at a concert.
>>124275105woaaaaaahhhh the spooky scary word salad LMFAOOO>>124275118the key is to be able to identify the harmonic outline of the theme, or in a passacaglia, the repeating bassline. the harmonic structure of the theme is the only constant in a theme and variations, that’s the point.
Their knees are trembling, lips quivering, tears dropping on their keyboard
>>124275168halloween did just pass after all, word salad this time of the year turns out extra spooky.
"i-it's j-just a word salad!" they say, "there's no truth in it". But they don't really believe it
I know I posted this the other day already but I really, really like ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOou1zJdORs&list=OLAK5uy_n3YK9nCqNz5fUvP12Am5lojz5vRe4s-9U&index=1https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n3YK9nCqNz5fUvP12Am5lojz5vRe4s-9UI prefer it to piano versions even.
>>124275207>let ME tell YOU what to thinklol
test
>>124275223What are you testing?
>>124275223and there he goes ban evading again
>>124275236TJ tried to ban me for posting about ((them)).
>>124275254lol, way to admit to ban evasion you fucking pedophile retard
>>124275262kill yourself, TJ. if 4chan offends you, may I suggest going to Reddit and Facebook?
>>124275254Typical. Mods will delete any posts negative to Jews in an instant but leave up 4 generals worth of sister shit spam.
>>1242752834chan doesn’t offend me, but being a child grooming pedophile sure does.
Milstein!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc9YhTkJcT4&list=OLAK5uy_mR23B03aC7Av9ZwPRs-9Q7fyynYxnxywM&index=22
>>124275297slanderous behavior is typical for your ethnicity.
>>124275296we really need a final solution.
>>124275310evading justice is typical for a sex offender
>>124275305I know Stokowski has one for the Chaconne, but are there any orchestral arrangements for this entire cycle? That'd be neat I think.
>>124275096>Really?He told Nietzsche (of all people) that he found German culture to have much in common with jewish culture, more so in comparison to other foreign cultures, a sentiment which Nietzsche seemed to agree with. If either of them was opposed to ANY culture or religion it was christianity, though Wagner less so.He went even further with his pro-jewish support, suggesting that antisemites be arrested and imprisoned, a sentiment that Nietzsche also seemed to wholly support.
>>124275340
>>124275444sure, i don’t care if a bunch of desert tribes blow each other up. hell, we should go ahead and blow them up preemptively so we can save them the trouble.
>>124275450
>>124275459they’re not ban evading on /classical/ so i don’t really give a shit.
>>124275470members of your ethnicity could murder innocent children in a public square, and you wouldn't give a shit.
>>124275497you really think i’m jewish even though i’m advocating blowing up the entire middle east LMAO, you’ll do anything to block contradicting information from your neat little narrative. no wonder your music theory “system” is total bogus.
>>124275520I think you should fuck off and die.
>>124275547sounds more like actions befitting a pedophile, maybe even a ban evading one.
>>124275341Eugene Ormandy has a recording of Bach's transcriptions, but I'm not sure who did the arrangement. The most complete version are CD8 and CD9 of his jacket collection, the latter includes transcription for works by the other members of the Bach's family.Let me check in my music library because I'm sure I have another similar recording.
>>124275520>advocating blowing up the entire middle east That sounds exactly like something a Jew would want. Blowing up the entire middle east and leaving only Israel
>>124276127i said the entire middle east, my illiterate friend. all of it, no exceptions. give me the red button and i’d nuke it all wholesale. problem?
>>124276185I don't believe you schlomo homo. There's also small print with Jews, I simply pointed out what that would be
>>124276247>let ME tell YOU what to thinkagain, lol
>>124276256I'm not telling you what to think at all schizo janny. Perhaps stop fantasizing about exterminating gentiles
>>124276274>he’s doing it againlmao
>>124276285Still not telling you what to think schizo janny, perhaps take your meds before posting?
>>124276297>i’m not touching you! i’m not touching you!it’s like talking to children
>>124276313Well you know all about touching children
>>124276332i said talking, not touching. freudian slip much?
>>124275322If only
>>124276344Like I said you know all about touching children
>>124276354and i said talking, not touching. freudian slip much?
>>124276361Ok and? You're still love touching children in a sexual way- I didn't see a denial.
>>124276373you’re the one bringing it up buddy, i have no association with touching kids. seems more like your territory.
>>124276387>No u Pathetic. Still no denial pedo janny
>>124276398like i said, i didn’t bring it up, you did. i have no reason to deny it for the same reason that i have no reason to deny accusations of being a unicorn.
>>124276408You would feel no issue with denying you are pedo if you weren't one pedo janny
>>124276419if a crackhead came up to you and accused you of storing gold in your head, would you try to reason with him or would you laugh at him for being a retarded crackhead? because you’re the retarded crackhead in this situation.
>>124276431Not interested in your weasel words and fantasies pedo janny. I still don't see a denial.
>>124276445i have never expressed nor experienced any sort of sexual desire for children. sound satisfactory?
>>124276467I don't believe you at all pedo janny. It was forced and insincere and only came after multiple prompts . you're fooling no one.
>>124276485yeah, that’s exactly what i figured. piss off, crackhead.
>>124276500Better a crack head than a pedo, like yourself pedo janny
>>124275842Good shout, thanks.
>>124276511proof that i’m a pedophile? go on, i’ll wait while you hit your crack pipe again for ideas.
>>124276525The proof is you molest children pedo janny
>One night I was invited to hear a "local" violinist play Bach's Chaconne as part of a recital program. I declined the invitation since I heard the violinist on another occasion when he played tango music and pop-oriented stuff. I enjoyed that other concert but I didn't want to hear the guy saw his way through the Chaconne. It was his first time playing the Bach piece in public. So I acted like an elitist snob and said no way.>Later that night, the woman who invited me to the recital stopped by and told me I was right, the recital was dreadful. She had never heard the Chaconne before in her life but she knew something was wrong, so she asked if I could give her a recording of the piece to listen to. She took the recording, went into the basement where my stereo was, put on the Chaconne and listened to the music in near darkness. When she emerged, she said "Wow, this sounds like completely different music, you were right". Of course everyone loves to be right, so I was well pleased with myself.cute story
>>124276529proof that i molest children?
>>124276548You want me to prove what you already know? Fuck off pedo janny and try not to molest children in future
>>124276556no, i don’t know that. prove that i molest children, crackhead.
>>124276560Stop molesting children pedo janny and no one will have to prove anything
>>124276571still waiting for that proof that i molest children, crackhead. i have all day.
>>124276344a freudian slip is not admissible in a court of law (see precedence in commonwealth vs anthony johnson). moreover, you have yet to apologize for wrongly accusing anon of pedophilia, when the full context in all of its voluminous archives reveal that anon was trolling anon and in doing so took on a character other than himself in order to prank anon.
>>124276580Yikes sorry sweaty that's the bump limit and the end of the thread. No more (you)s for you I'm afraid. In future though pedo janny, try to discuss classical music more and you fantasizing about molesting children less. Mmkay? The quality of the posts here is very important.
>>124276604sorry, but i have proof that the pedophile kraut is in fact a pedophile, i don’t care for excuses of trolling. on the other hand…>>124276611still waiting for proof that i molest children, crackhead. any day now.
G-good thread, anons.
Any fans of or thoughts on the Dover Quartet? Listening to their Schumann now and added their cycle of Beethoven's String Quartets based on some effusive reviews.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=889-0RX3CmI&list=OLAK5uy_kNgbL1cHH6QbcO0M93n9k2nHjHaRUtNPY&index=1
>>124271796im fully aware of your request for Christmas music, but first the month of november has to end. it is a month filled with vile excess in consumer goods and services which greatly contrasts to the beauty and celebration that the following month brings.
>>124276668That's funny, but I was referring to the one anon's promise to continue mudslinging with sisteranon without cessation for the entire month of November.
>>124276766he did in fact cease when i told him i wasn’t interested in having gay sex with him, funnily enough.
>>124276802Should have led with that
>>124276865TJ had to make sure he wasn't underage first before he decided he wasn't interested in gay sex with him.
>>124276865shoulda coulda woulda, such is life. >>124276913proof i’ve had sex with anyone underage, crackhead?
music illiterate here, but what is it about the baroque period that just sounds so much more grandiose than the other eras?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klPZIGQcrHA
>>124277046Spirit of the age. One needs to only look at their other art, like architecture, paintings, and sculpture.
Best recording of Bolero?
Any comments about a musician's or conductor's favorite recording? Theirs or others I suppose.
>>124277046Nice I had this piece stuck in my head for ages but couldn't remember what it was
>>124277046Handel was more grandiose than nearly any other music from any time period.
>>124277165it was in Barry Lyndon
>>124277162Sviatoslav Richter's favorite recording of Debussy's La Mer was Désormière's.>A piece that I rank alongside the St. Matthew Passion and the Ring cycle as one of my favorite works.>Of the Désormière recording, which he played for Neuhaus, Richter said it is "The most beautiful in the whole history of the gramophone.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFfKfqymMcc&list=OLAK5uy_llcq31_-93bBZ9lXsGJ8woRoSxef2VyjY&index=16
>>124277157There's tons of good ones, it's one of those that you just pick whichever conductor you like or, hell, even recognize and it'll be good. Karajan, Martinon, Dutoit, and so on.But here's one I liked recently, and isn't too old of a recording:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N76TOFVWftk&list=OLAK5uy_lqhNar7pYdPM2ip5PD8mauqwnP_GUP9DQ&index=15
>>124277200Very cool, thank you. And thanks for including the bit about SMP and the Ring cycle, I also find that interesting.
Finally starting to enjoy Rachmaninoff's Preludes as more than mere superficial trifles. Thank you, Weissenberg.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJiflLlNYDY&list=OLAK5uy_lSrbq0Vfix2Sq6690e5bkzkqJxyqZ8K9o&index=9Can't wait to listen to his recording of the piano sonatas next.
>>124277186I never saw that
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>>124272799Disgusting brown scat fetishist post.>>124278388Not /classical/
